gtfo-related-questions

[remote plaza]

5% damage bro

How can they be ao evil

[burnt inlet]

They’re frozen over when they die

[remote plaza]

I guess infection

If they could be killed

[fathom ice]

you wanna shoot everything in error zone including asleep rooms, prioing scouts with bio is also good
generally if you know layout of those u can find hsu relatively fast and it should be aight to go back

[remote plaza]

God i wish

[onyx ermine]

teehe

us

[north stirrup]

us

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[meager nacelle]

yeh, we've been doing that, ran through and shot the scout before trigger

after equipping hel rifle we managed to finish it instantly

I was too used to only using the thermal DMR because of how comfy it is

[fathom ice]

ye it's just not great compared to other weapons

thermal is only really good into shadows and for that purpose u could slot pdw

[uneven kiln]

This is more of an observation: Is it possible to encounter a naturally spawning sleeping Big Shooter anywhere in Gardens?

[ocean spindle]

seen it a lot in r7b1

big zone

[uneven kiln]

slendo most garden zones are big

[ocean spindle]

big zone as in big enemies zone

the last III one

[uneven kiln]

Found em, thank you, is there anywhere else

I think R8D1 is ruled out maybe

R7D1... that's Floodways where they would spawn if they do

[ocean spindle]

r8a1 possily

but i imagine next to 0 chance

its only 6 in the zone or so

[uneven kiln]

which zone

[ocean spindle]

uhh key zone

[uneven kiln]

Seems to be Z72 where it would be possible

[ocean spindle]

think so

i no remember zone numbers

[uneven kiln]

got confirmation, they cannot spawn (datablocks tell)

[ocean spindle]

:O

[uneven kiln]

It’s just R7B1 from what I can see

[grizzled patrol]

R1B2 in the redundant Key zone

R6D4 Giant Dimension also Has them

I also remember a couple of Missions where they can replace normal Giants in some rooms

[uneven kiln]

Yeah I did know about those, was referring specifically to Gardens

I am not wholly sure if my list where they can replace giants is accurate though

[grizzled patrol]

Oh MB didnt read it properly

[prime musk]

in R8E2
can the tank in bypass zone spawn in area G or area J

[frail heart]

G yes, J maybe idk

[fathom ice]

yes

[civic furnace]

happened in J before

smash lock beside him for the ammo was worth it :3

[full stream]

Hey, do any one have a video solo holding r4e1’s reactor? I wanna keep practicing it but idk how other people optimally does it

[prime musk]

what gun do you want to see hold with'

[frail heart]

he wouldnt mind a little noise

[prime musk]

because they play a bit differently

@full stream

[frail heart]

I genuinely think that for ACTUAL solo holding (putting in codes as well) you should hold in reactor with hel rifle and sawed off + 1 sentry

and of course bio

[prime musk]

!! frosty is correct

[frail heart]

It is easier than you think

especially if you shoot the dudes

ok what did i just say

[full stream]

Saw’d off and hel rifle

Or hel revolver and hel gun

[prime musk]

https://studio.youtube.com/video/0yTYr1RKUWc/edit
good solo hold by me, sawed off hel rifle
https://studio.youtube.com/video/X1iKfdckoXw/edit
good hold in speed setting by me, sawed off hel rifle
https://studio.youtube.com/video/IA4SWMeb0zc/edit
generally acceptable hold by me, hel revo hel gun

[thick stump]

have you stopped using boosters to get better because if not, I recommend you to stop using them because you gonna learn much more

[prime musk]

wait fuck youtuve is stupid

https://youtu.be/IA4SWMeb0zc
hel revo hel gun

https://youtu.be/X1iKfdckoXw
sawed off hel rifle (speed setting)

https://youtu.be/0yTYr1RKUWc
sawed off hel rifle (slow, play for clear)

[full stream]

I haven’t been lmao

And plus I did all my clears without it

[full stream]

Ok thx

[full stream]

Ima be honest, I thought you sit with the turret lmao

[prime musk]

the strat is always to have sentry cover left side and you focus right side

because right side just has better line and visibility for you

[full stream]

Oh ok

The video shows a good idea on how to hold

[prime musk]

focus less on the exact strats of the hold and more on the strats in shooting for improvement purposes

[full stream]

Ok

[indigo herald]

hii, may I know how do you get the glow stick to be color green?

[timber shoal]

some rundowns have green glow sticks

[uneven kiln]

Rundown 7

bots can also actually pick up these glowsticks

[timber shoal]

can they throw them?

[uneven kiln]

yep

[thick stump]

yup, I used this as well, I wished this would be possible in other rundowns as well

[grizzled patrol]

Mods If you want them in all Rundowns

The Archive lets you Pick one of the already existing colors

But there is also a standalone Mod that allows you to Pick whatever colour you want

[indigo herald]

hii, may I know how you do that?

[grizzled patrol]

You get the Mod, and in the config File you Set the desired RGB value

[indigo herald]

can I DM?

[grizzled patrol]

sure

[patent mulch]

Average bot logic

[ionic galleon]

What missions do the mini bosses first appear in

[burnt inlet]

R3B2 smth i think

[ionic galleon]

Do u know the missions for each mini boss type?

[burnt inlet]

R3D1 pmom

R4C3 iirc is tank

R6D1 first kraken

[fathom ice]

R3B2 is mom
R3D1 is pmom
R4C1 is tank
R5A2 is snatcher (although it's more of just a special enemy)
R6D1 kraken
R8A2 nightmare giant (same special enemy)
R8D2 mega mom

[ionic galleon]

How can you deal with a snatcher in single player

theoretical

[fathom ice]

scattergun

like you just shoot him as he's trying to grab you

and he staggers

[ionic galleon]

Oh gotcha

[fathom ice]

or if u dw to shoot and you need to dodge grab you can bait his grab animation and hide behind solid object

[ionic galleon]

I thought if he caught you it’s just over

[fathom ice]

na

you take 17%

so even if ure on 20 ure chill

[ionic galleon]

Can mini bosses and special enemies spawn during normal alarm waves

[fathom ice]

no

unless it's like intended

but just no usually

[keen seal]

or if you have a good sightline you can stagger as it's trying to approach you

[fathom ice]

ye

[grand trail]

me and a friend are doing R4D1 does anyone have tips for killing enemies faster? it seems they all hang back and they still come even after the wave timer expires which really eats up into our time :/

[timber shoal]

are you holding in reactor?

because if not that’s probably the issue

[grand trail]

we hold at the funky door between entrance and the reactor terminal

it just takes so long for them to spawn

[timber shoal]

hmm

r4d1 is generally pretty good about not having stuck enemies

[grand trail]

we completed the 2nd wave so the door opposite us opened and even after hearing the noise indicating the wave was earlier we heard another attack roar/scream

[timber shoal]

are yall running like hel rifles or scatter or burst cannon

[grand trail]

we have 2 bots with pistol and heavy rifle , im running carbine and scatter for hybrids and giants with my friend using bulpup and hel rifle

[burnt inlet]

First wave hold the first sec door you can just directly open no scan (like two rooms away from reactor) since you can get hel lineups, other than that everyone and I mean EVERYONE should stay in reactor at all times unless codehunt or last wave has spawned

[timber shoal]

alright so uh

why bullpup

[grand trail]

i think he just likes it

[timber shoal]

and why HAR on bots

use burst cannon

[remote plaza]

Bro on hard mode

[burnt inlet]

Yea I think the bots loadout literally are dragging yall lowkey

HAR is like one of the worst weapons in the game

[grand trail]

i heard the reactor counts as a player for the 2 room away rule is that true?
if so i know why its happening 😭

[timber shoal]

sort of

are you stepping out of reactor room to kill things

[grand trail]

we've been sitting outside the door on the bridge 🙁

i know exactly whats happened now haha

[timber shoal]

yeah that’s the issue

it pushes the enemy spawns a huge distance away for every room away from reactor you stand

[fathom ice]

basically if you're 1 room away from reactor enemies can only spawns 3 rooms away from reactor

[burnt inlet]

So spawns will be 2 rooms away from reactor + rooms you are away from reactor iirc, so if you’re one room away from reactor they will spawn 3 rooms away from reactor

[grand trail]

tysm for the help ❤️

[burnt inlet]

Also put burst rifle, burst canon on bots and run double burst sentry and sniper sentry (with one of the bots on bio)

[grand trail]

yeah thats what we got now

[burnt inlet]

And id suggest you guys hold medi whilst trying to get bots to only hold ammo/tool

Cuz if bots pick up medi they will throw during charger and bbc waves if you guys take any dmg

[grand trail]

we were holding here on this side of the doorway

[burnt inlet]

It’s decent but it’s much more fun and better to hold reactor

[timber shoal]

of course :3

[burnt inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

Also spear gameplay 😔 but it’s whatever for this reactor tbh not a lot of melee stealth

[grand trail]

is spear bad?

[remote plaza]

Yeah

[grand trail]

damn

[remote plaza]

Hammer just better for the same

At least for type of melee

[grand trail]

ahh ok

[timber shoal]

it’s the worst melee by a pretty significant margin

but you can manage even if you use it

it’s fine for stealth but awake enemies fuck it over

[burnt inlet]

Good knife/hammer players can like melee an entire scout wave and then some, with spear it’s almost impossible

[remote plaza]

Its not almost

It is

[grand trail]

alright so knife or hammer got it

ty

[timber shoal]

bat is goated too

not quite as good as knife or hammer

but still

[ocean spindle]

bat gaming

my beloved

[static kestrel]

yo hold on

[static kestrel]

theres 3 diff moms??

[ocean spindle]

stretched definition, the enemy ||no spoilers for u, play the game||

||get trolled||

||fish||

[static kestrel]

YOU BITCH

i still gotta do r8 im up to like r8c1 or sum lol

[remote plaza]

The first time i encountered the first mother was underwhelming

Rest were more notable

[static kestrel]

i saved r8 to duo with an old friend but we arent friends anymore so i never played it

[ocean spindle]

:3

[ocean spindle]

its kinda easy yes hut that nakes r3d1 all the whole better

[ocean spindle]

a

u should do it

mostly to avoid further spoils j guess

[static kestrel]

i feel like i knew there were 3

[ocean spindle]

ok walter mercado

[static kestrel]

but im having a hard time remembering the difference between pmom and mega mom

like

[timber shoal]

guess you’ll have to find out :3

[keen seal]

because you've not seen it

[static kestrel]

pmom is just a bigger normal mom right? and then mega mom dont just spawn babies it also spawns sleepers right??

[ocean spindle]

idk

[remote plaza]

Play the game

[timber shoal]

play game

[ocean spindle]

"and this is is where i would say it"
"IF I FINISHED GTFO"

[static kestrel]

ffs

me when the people in the server tell me to actually play GTFO

[agile field]

Enjoy ZZZ, bro

[ocean spindle]

no dont sleep

[static kestrel]

im not, im logging in to see this new chick then logging off

lol

[remote plaza]

New chick in zzz?

I havent played since trigger

[agile field]

Haven’t played since Billy

[ocean spindle]

haven't played

[remote plaza]

Not missing out tbf

[static kestrel]

true

game gets so boring so fast

[remote plaza]

I play more hsr

[static kestrel]

but my buddy loves it so i keep it installed

YEAHH

[remote plaza]

As background game

[static kestrel]

oh

yeahhh

[remote plaza]

And not

I act have a lot of stuff

[static kestrel]

i pulled everknight

am i cool

[remote plaza]

Got all amphoreus 5 stars excep aglaea and chydera as f2p

[agile field]

Samesies

[static kestrel]

im ngl i log into hsr like once a month now lol

when blade got buffed i returned cuz blade is my fav chat and

character**

[agile field]

Just trying to cope as a Blade main in a boosted Amphoreus world

[remote plaza]

I log every day when i wake up

I love blade

I have him as a fun team

[agile field]

He got better?

[static kestrel]

i lovvee blade

[static kestrel]

yeah they buffed him

[remote plaza]

But i mostly use, the herta, phainon, castorice and feixiao teams

[static kestrel]

yo i love feixiao

[remote plaza]

Me too

I remembering staying up till 1am to pull for her

She my fav 5 star by far

[agile field]

I run a Blade, Luocha, Jing Yuan, and (insert elemental weakness character) even if two/three DPS team is atrocious.

[static kestrel]

i mean run what u want ganga

i run blade

thats about it

lol

[agile field]

I just like men, fr

[remote plaza]

i like the woman

but the men fine too

i alr have max den heng that came out today

i pre farmed for a month

[static kestrel]

how

[agile field]

I do the same in Wuwa, pull for any man I can get.

[static kestrel]

man farm my shit too tf🙏🏽

[remote plaza]

i farm in all games

i dont play to have fun

i play to grind

on GI im ar 60

[static kestrel]

genshin?

that game is wack ngl

[remote plaza]

yeah

[agile field]

AR 58 and it will probably stay there because I ran out of storage on both my phone and laptop 😔

(Would 100% redownload if Rerir becomes playable though)

[remote plaza]

i played till end of natlan

100% exploration in everything

[agile field]

Sumeru broke me when it came to 100% exploration 😭

[remote plaza]

dessert was the worst

[agile field]

It became such a hassle

[remote plaza]

i did it to pull

i NEED to gamble

(in game)

[cerulean fjord]

i gotta ask,
2 years ago before my first ban
I noticed some players have ammo of max "101%" (I ran on vanilla)

I did some tests on the "Extra bullet in chamber" mod to see if it has
any advantage in the game. Sadly it doesn't do much but just stores
an extra bullet if you reload isn't at 0 bullets.

That's not case, the question is does this mod lie under the "Cheats"
category?

[timber shoal]

uh

so what exactly is the mod’s purpose

the ammo in the magazine doesn’t count toward the max ammo?

also, unless it has some kind of huge effect on gameplay and you plan on running it in pubs, it doesn’t really matter if it falls under the broad definition of cheats

just don’t ruin the experience for other people

[cerulean fjord]

basically this, you have about 3 bullets left on your bulpup rifle and you want to reload.
This one bullet stays in the chamber = from 40 it becomes 41

If the player max up their ammo capacity it will end up reading "101%".

[sudden nexus]

"cheats" is subjective

[sudden nexus]

so it increases the max slip size?

[cerulean fjord]

by only 1%.

[timber shoal]

increasing max clip size is a pretty big deal

not by 1%

by 1

there is a huge difference

[full stream]

Imagine having 3 shot scatter

[sudden nexus]

esp on something like sniper or scatter

[full stream]

[timber shoal]

for bullpup rifle its only 2.5% but for sniper/scatter thats 50% more per mag

which is wild

id probably say keep that out of pub lobbies

[cerulean fjord]

i encountered a player using a Sniper rifle that carried 4 bullets instead of 3.

but that was 2 years ago

[full stream]

What about burst cannon

[timber shoal]

ooh

[full stream]

It can finally have the final shot

[timber shoal]

actual even mag size

you’re so right

[cerulean fjord]

not much of a difference, all weapons just kept one bullet in chamber (i tested).

[timber shoal]

yeah, we get how it works

that changes balance pretty majorly

[full stream]

Damn so no even mag size

[timber shoal]

it makes the good weapons much better

and doesnt affect autos

effectively making the disparity in balance even worse lmao

[full stream]

Saw’d off would go pretty hard

[timber shoal]

i didn’t even think of that 😭

sawed off just becomes reinforced as a fuckin broken ass weapon

[ocean spindle]

french

[full stream]

Hey slendo

[ocean spindle]

hello

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-3646877800214258094

[cerulean fjord]

i guess it's safe to say i could use the mod as long as its not shotty, snipers, and revolvers.

[timber shoal]

id just avoid using it in public lobbies

messing with game balance when there’s other people around is a little tetchy

[ocean spindle]

yeah i just wouldnt bother

if u wanna cheat

do it in private

[tardy ingot]

Btw you can get a starting max ammo of over 100% by using starting boosters

[grizzled patrol]

Ngl it Sounds based af. It does Always bog me that The one loaded bullet Just disappears. It would do nothing to sawn Off or revolvers, but lowkey improve some of the secondaries

Honestly i would be so down if it was in the Base game

[tardy ingot]

Malefic

[tardy ingot]

does anybody remember

which item on the gtfo merch shop

showed the gtfo diaper

[tiny wyvern]

wtf is that

[tardy ingot]

(it was some helmet iirc but i dont fully remember)

nvm

got the answer

[burnt inlet]

Vro is packing

[ripe hamlet]

gtfo adult diaper

[tiny wyvern]

was this a joke?

please tell me this was a joke

[frail heart]

it is real

[reef rock]

i shouldve gotten it

[tiny wyvern]

please no

never

why does this disturb me so?

[reef rock]

its probably the ink that looks kinda wet

[tardy ingot]

The pic is real
The actual item sold is a helmet tho

[tiny wyvern]

You're supposed to wear it on your head?

[reef rock]

suing for false advertisment /s

[ripe hamlet]

Why can you see an underwear preview in a helmet section

[reef rock]

does anyone have any advice on how i can improve my alarm/gunplay game
currently struggling to solo r1a1, mostly the class IV before the HSU
i do fine on the stealth/fast stealth parts

[tardy ingot]

…

[frail heart]

That class 4 alarm is actually quite hard for a solo hold. If you are struggling, i would recommend trying r6a1. To practice, i would just go into cconsole, give yourself infinite ammo and then start the class 2 on r1a1 dont finish it and just keep practicing shooting in that room or something

[reef rock]

do i have to mod in a console?

or is it in the base game

[frail heart]

CConsole is a mod yeah

[reef rock]

ohhhh

ok tysm!!

[frail heart]

allg

[reef rock]

any recommend guns? i use hel revolver and combat shotty mainly

[frail heart]

if you need anything else feel free to ask

[frail heart]

combat shotty is very good for r1a1 solo

[safe cradle]

I mean you could luckshit a mine in the resource zone and bring foam launcher yourself

[frail heart]

revolver not AS much just due to the tiles

[safe cradle]

I did it with burst sentry, getting lucky and having both nade and mine consumable, sawn off and CS

[frail heart]

For your main just take sawed off or carbine prob

[tardy ingot]

they are asking for gunplay advice

[safe cradle]

I know but how do you do that exactly?

[reef rock]

you underestimate my rng

[safe cradle]

Other than "take gun X because it's good"

[frail heart]

@safe cradle

This is one thing

Just practicing shooting, positioning, using downtime well, etc are ways to improve

OH

[reef rock]

also what do i do if a giant has its back against a wall do i just shoot it

[tardy ingot]

Well there is a guide for shooting

Aswell as one for decision making in these kinda situations

so like that typically

[frail heart]

https://youtu.be/bz7Wf9MtRDo?si=j0JKDy2o55O36uCv

@reef rock

This is a very good guide

[reef rock]

3.3k in gtfo is crazy

[tardy ingot]

In stealth?

If the giant may wake up later or you want the room cleared. Yea no issue with shooting

[frail heart]

hani has over 4k now prob

[reef rock]

yea in stealth

[tardy ingot]

Does he still play that much gtfo

[frail heart]

All of hanis guides are great

[safe cradle]

I really think firing up an aim trainer you gen Z use often and getting slightly cracked at aiming just does the trick for the most part...

[frail heart]

Not really anymore

[tardy ingot]

Ive only gotten like ~400 hours in the last year

[reef rock]

i subbed

[safe cradle]

Fireblade/Zenlioren have like 8k each

or some insane amount like that

[tardy ingot]

But yea for stealth it comes down to just knowing if you need/want to kill the giant

And then if you want/need to melee it alone or just shoot

[safe cradle]

does anyone have 10k?

[reef rock]

also darkeva i loved your stealth guide hi!

[reef rock]

mm

[tardy ingot]

I dont think anyone has 10k hours no

the addiction necessary for that is immense even if you had started in og r1

Thats nearly 5 hours a day for 5 years

[reef rock]

we just need to add a battle pass

ranked gtfo

[tardy ingot]

simply get medal mod

[safe cradle]

Add Gacha where you roll your favourite vets

[tardy ingot]

./s

[frail heart]

yeah

[tardy ingot]

Imagine nearly 5 hours a day for 5 years frosty

tgb doesnt even have that over 2

[frail heart]

i was doing like uhhhh

14 hours a day at the start of last year

[reef rock]

me pulling on the sleeper banner for the sleeper with the funny hat

i also found a new team to play with

r1 -> r8 is recommended progression right?

[safe cradle]

Depends

All of R1 first for sure

R2 until you get stuck (usually this happens at R2D1 or R2D2 or R2E1), then all of R3

Just dont push too much into trying to finish R2 before R3, R2E1 is harder than anything in R3.

[reef rock]

okty!!

[thick stump]

the easy but boring way to solo this is just bring a cfoam launcher and foam the door during the scans

[civic wave]

is it strange that i don't recognise the name zenlioren

the 3 people i know with the most playtime are/were fireblade, salys, rayalot

[reef rock]

ok i got to the last scan

tbh i got rng'd

the 2 scans were right in front of the big door

😹

[fathom ice]

who is salys

[frail heart]

Fireblade crew

Hange also has 6k+

[safe cradle]

Zinlioren (my bad I got the name wrong)

[tardy ingot]

who even is that

[burnt inlet]

Eva too newgen to know who it is

[safe cradle]

Man, what's with the sudden influx of "NO MUTES ALLOWED"? 😢

[tardy ingot]

might be new people who think games only works on communication?

[thick stump]

I think those are people who can't trust each other, so they need to communicate

[safe cradle]

I mean I'm for people owning their lobbies and they get to decide who gets in no question asked

It's just weird because the game doesn't have that big of a playerbase already

[tardy ingot]

its a lack of understanding for at least a good chunk of em

similar to the people who think walking in stealth = speedrunning

[thick stump]

the only argument I often here is that the mute player takes the bio tracker and doesn't communicate with the team

[tardy ingot]

not sprinting mind you... walking

[safe cradle]

I legit dont say anything anymore when I see people with "HEL RIFLE- LRG-X" or weird modded guns or the axe or whatever

So I assume more people would be more willing to accept someone who doesn't want to use a mic

[safe cradle]

Makes some sense for maps where you REALLY need to know enemy positions

[burnt inlet]

Isnt the axe mod just a reskinned hammer?

[safe cradle]

no idea

[thick stump]

I really rely most of the time on my hearing, shadows are kinda tricky sometimes but if I am not in a hurry, I take my time

[thick stump]

I see a lot of people with an axe and I think this is just a skin like the other cosmetics, but I don't care

[burnt inlet]

I think no mutes allowed is one of those unjust rules

[burnt inlet]

Ye

[ocean spindle]

believe ao

so

[keen seal]

should be

just ask them if the mods are off thunderstore or nexus and you'll have your answer

[reef rock]

whats the difference?

[little pilot]

between thunderstore and nexus or something else?

[reef rock]

between thunder and nexus yea

[little pilot]

different websites u can get mods from

[reef rock]

yea i know that but im guessing thunderstore has more "modded" content?

[little pilot]

yea but all* mods from both websites use bepinex, the same patcher,

the thunderstore app straight up allows importing a downloaded mod from nexus as they work very similarly

and to do it manually u just unzip the files and drop them in the thunderstore profile

[wheat gate]

usually we like r2modman which is basically a thunderstore client without the bloat

[uneven kiln]

My bad team I'll let the aggro chain/LRA happen next time

[wheat gate]

without playing with people who are able to confidently do that, i dont think its a very intuitive realization that u can just walk at every enemy and bonk them and they're not fast enough to do anything about it

[thick stump]

and if another enemies wakes up, just do the same again until the room is cleared

[wheat gate]

yea. if all 4 players know that u can do this stealth becomes way less important

but again i dont think its a very intuitive thing to realize

especially for a group of 4, without someone to just tell them or show them that

[thick stump]

I realized that way later, stealth was so much easier when I noticed that waking up an enemy is not bad, you can't just shovel him or we have enough time to charge up our weapon to kill him anyways before he attacks or screams

[wheat gate]

proximity aggro is pretty intuitive but long range aggro is also not very intuitive to learn

same with giant killing imo. alternating limb break is not something a newer player would think of right away without being told

a lot of pub teams think that u actually need all 4 players to hit at once to kill a giant safely

[thick stump]

yup, at the beginning I always have done them with 3 players, 3 full charge to the back and it was dead, or splitting in 2 and 2

[thick stump]

my brother who introduced me to this game, thought that we can't even stealth kill him and we need to shoot him, it was really a hard time to convince him to at least try to stealth kill it together xD

[tardy ingot]

Would be fine sure

But the reaction to that by quite a few people is either getting tilted about how they are speedrunning and rushing (lol) or blaming them for room wake ups.

its why people genuinely say they hate speedrunners when they actually mean non crouch stealth

[thick stump]

I also think it is more that they also want to kill some enemies but they are hesitent, so more slowly and those who can walk kill are clearing the room while they are trying to kill 2 enemies but they want to kill more and get used to it and confident

[wheat gate]

well i think thats a separate issue

theres two scenarios here:

• a speedrunner confidently walks into rooms and keeps things all under control. solo carries but also keeps the team in mind
• a speedrunner who's too used to having good teammates walks into rooms, wakes everything and loses control, forced to long kite as everyone else dies

the latter is what people hate

is that a solo carry or a solo grief

debatable

especially when that person then starts complaining about the rest of the team being too bad to keep up, u can see how thats very tilting for the rest of team

unfortunatly a lot of higher level players end up doing that in pubs possibly even unknowingly

[thick stump]

there is a 3rd one, a speedrunner which kills almost all enemies and it get boring for the other players

[wheat gate]

well that would be 1 i guess

[thick stump]

also true

[wheat gate]

for new people the game actually only works on comms tho
they dont just think that its very true for them

well, i think ingame callout keybinds are honestly good enough 90% of time

theyr also funny

as long as theres any communication whatsoever, chat/callouts/mic

if u join rando pub and expect everyone else to conform to your exact playstyle without any communication ur simply stinky and cringe

[tardy ingot]

@thick stump
The people who are genuinely new who get people who walk stealth can have valid complaints (especially when in early early rundowns)

Also I wasnt talking about actual speedrunners. That was actually kinda the point.
Players who simply walk stealth being called speedrunners

[wheat gate]

if i join a <D tier level im proably just hanging back and chilling to let host set the pace

[tardy ingot]

Thats where I disagree

Good comms are obviously helpful but a lot of stuff doesnt even get communicated by beginners because they obviously dont know

[wheat gate]

also tru

[tardy ingot]

Here thats the assumption

People who join lobbys where a statement has been made (or a beginner lobby) and then go at a higher pace are obviously annoying

But if its a semi deep level and the speed is genuinely whats expected of the average lobby. No call outs
Then thats not on the player walk stealthing, just as much as the newbie wouldnt be at fault in the first case

[prime musk]

i mean beginners comm A LOT they just comm the wrong things
like it's just part of the not knowing what matters and not in the game, and not understanding what others need to know and not

[thick stump]

yup, I agree with that

[wheat gate]

hmm. i think some of this can be also delegated to design issue.
in other 4p coop horde games, there is some mechanic pushing the player forward
but in GTFO that doesnt exist in most levels. u can play ultra safe and take 5hr and the game doesnt do anything to discourage that

which exasturbates the difference between a super ultra slow safe player and a fast player

in vermintide/helldiver/l4d2/etc theres always random waves as an incentive for u to keep moving

[tardy ingot]

im mostly referencing the extremes. Aka:

• saying mutes not allowed/need comms

• saying that their runs are ruined by speedrunners (when its not, but just walking stealth)

I dont like people who do the reverse either. Aka not communicating at all and then doing random shit or rushing when someone wanted to take smth slow (specifically lobby host wanting this) or just being new

[wheat gate]

yea both side extremes r not respecting other players in some way

[civic wave]

nah hel revo is valid as fuck and you still get pen value

[timber shoal]

hel revo 🤤

[remote plaza]

i love the hel revo

and the revo

i sometimes run both

[timber shoal]

real shit

two of my fav weapons

[remote plaza]

i love side arms in all games

i beaten a few games only using pistols and revolvers

[prime ore]

R4C3 overload does activating the HSU proc a perma alarm

[timber shoal]

perchance

also bulkhead key is behind blood door

[prime ore]

so I have to play with a

perma alarm of fucking course

[timber shoal]

yeah its not super bad though

[topaz anvil]

helo team

[prime ore]

this is a dead run bruh I shouldve went for secondary

[timber shoal]

i fake duo'd w moth

[timber shoal]

never do overload and main only

[remote plaza]

hsu has alarm after scan

[timber shoal]

do sec first

[remote plaza]

spawns 4 chargers every 45s

[timber shoal]

makes everything so much easier

[timber shoal]

hai quad :3

[prime ore]

well now my run is dead so

also I got knife not knowing its charger only mission

[timber shoal]

well now you know for next time

[prime ore]

I thought overload would be forced immediately cuz its only option at the start so I went for it first

so I gotta go throught

everything up until fog repellent

[fathom ice]

you CAN do overload first

[prime ore]

do sec and then go back

[fathom ice]

but it's much harder

[prime ore]

yeah but then the run becomes

almost impossible

and I dont wanna

torture myself lowkey

[fathom ice]

it isn't

but it's much harder ye

[timber shoal]

yeah go for secondary first, it removes the infectious fog

[prime ore]

yo what

I am def doing that first

[timber shoal]

yes

thats why PE on this mission is goated

[prime ore]

that makes this

much less cancerous

[timber shoal]

because then main is fun

i will say though

sec is NOT easy

[prime ore]

main I have to like

fog dip dont I

[prime ore]

its gotta be a reactor right

[timber shoal]

nah its not

generator cluster

[timber shoal]

just a little i think

to get bulkhead key and to open sec

[prime ore]

which is more

[timber shoal]

but they give so many foggies

[prime ore]

dipping right

[timber shoal]

nope

theres some infectious fog but only a little iirc

[prime ore]

everything is better than surge fog combination surely

[timber shoal]

lmao its not r4c2, dw

its difficult but not like actively making you want to end it all

[fathom ice]

nah sec is chill

gen cluster is like not threatening

[tardy ingot]

the worst part of secondary is grabbing the 2nd cell

[timber shoal]

stev doesnt like shadows

[prime ore]

fog turbine is always in

153 right

[fathom ice]

I like overload first cuz it makes sec less tedious

[prime ore]

of course I hate scitzo demons if I cannot shoot it then shi gets bad mostly

atleast they have

[tardy ingot]

it removes its worst part ye

[prime ore]

low range

cuz they are all

strikers

and cannot be shooters

[timber shoal]

the nefarious shadow hybrid:

[fathom ice]

the burst shooters

[keen seal]

protocol 1 D3 or what was it

[prime ore]

okay

R4C3 can I force my bots

to not take useless shi and actually get fog repellents

[uneven kiln]

no

bots treat fog repellers with the lowest possible priority

they will take lock melters, cfoam grenades, and mines over them every time

R4C3 is a horrible level for bots honestly

they are already not good into chargers and are bad at conserving ammo against them even when they aren't attempting to melee them

[prime ore]

WOW

That is like probably

the most important pick up to have them have

cuz there is too many

cancer missions

[uneven kiln]

you can probably tell why I hold the position that R4C3 is a bad level for bots

Main sure but PE absolutely not

[prime ore]

hammer is so much better for this mission

[prime ore]

secondary atleast kills the fog

[uneven kiln]

the fog is not the problem

the problem is after Overload back into Main

[prime ore]

wait where you exit

in this mission

spawn or forward extraction point

dude all of my bots

have everything but repellents

how do I like even exit 151 atp

with nothing but 4 repellents

[uneven kiln]

fog diving

[tardy ingot]

(when is hammer not better lol)

also bots have a unique melee so theirs doesnt matter

[uneven kiln]

I am actually unironically more down to true duo R4C3 PE than duo with bots because their behavior is so bad post overload

you have to be the one to retrieve the fog turbine because there is an error going on

[tardy ingot]

tbf

you can very easily grab turbine in the closer spawn point if you play around error

[prime ore]

its slower

I normally use knife when soloing

so I dont have to slug around

but now cuz its all cahrgers

its much more effective

[tardy ingot]

unless you are full sprinting or genuinely going for quad+ kills where you are hitting insta charge hits

then no, hammer can actually keep up

hammer can be incredibly fast when you abuse weakpoints

and back dmg

[uneven kiln]

yeah the main issue I have is the Main key hunt, pulling all the rooms is ill advised since there is almost no res in those side zones and the cursed scan location I am convinced is a dead run on the spot if you have bot(s) and dont kick cheese

The turbine itself isnt the end of the world, but it is nasty to have to play around the error with bots even more after what it has already done by that point

Bots in general just do the worst things when there are error alarms going on in so many ways

[prime ore]

okay R4C3 I didnt expect scitzo demons

I kindly woke up the first room lol

got 1st cell should I put them immediately if it does anything

or keep them both and then put both at same time for smth

[ocean spindle]

u can nust put immediately

if u complete it theres an alarm

classic gencluster stuff

[prime ore]

how big?

like 5 from R2D1

[ocean spindle]

2

[prime ore]

okay 2 feels like bait its gotta be 2 sustain right

[ocean spindle]

wait what part are u in

sec right

gen cluster

if so jo its a normal if shadow

[prime ore]

R4C3 sec ye

so scan is free

and it removes

all missions fog

right?

why tf would you not do secondary

Okay I jst bit my word

class 6 alarm

@ocean spindle okay actually where enemies spawn here I am so lost lol

will they spawn in big ass hallway

[tardy ingot]

2 rooms away

[prime ore]

will they spawn behind the doors

like this room is funky

[tardy ingot]

look around

check room signs

[prime ore]

this is

double zone

so it is

C and B

and A is where doors are

[prime ore]

so enemies spawn in A cuz its 2 rooms away correct?

or I am rtrded

[tardy ingot]

pretty much correct yes

[prime ore]

thank you kind sir 👍

[thick stump]

how many sentries do you have with you?

[prime ore]

1?

I went in blind so I always use the classic build

all tools x1

[tardy ingot]

id not take cfoam with bots ngl

[prime ore]

I got the foam on me

[tardy ingot]

still

[thick stump]

because shadows gonna spawn, so try putting the sentry in the middle of the scan room, so if you bio track the enemy, the sentry can shoot them

[tardy ingot]

its about refoaming being basically not a thing

[prime ore]

yeah I put it in like

a choke point

that is how its called right

its like a tight hallway you HAVE to go throught to the class 6

so I put the turret there

[thick stump]

if I play with 3 bots, I always take mine deployer, sometimes sentry, but the bots always have the other 2 sentries and 1 bio

[prime ore]

its class 6 shadows only?

alr time to do

[thick stump]

I think it is

[prime ore]

class 6 surely nothing goes wrong

[thick stump]

the enemy gonna mainly run through the middle of the room, because the scans gonna be around that, but it is a tight hallway, so everything is good

also they are shadows and they are slow, so don't worry

[prime ore]

this wasnt so bad

except my hel rifle ammo like

nothing like shit hard pulled up yet in this mission

are there like charger feelers at the end or sum?

[thick stump]

to be honest, secondary was also kinda easy for me, it was kinda free getting the 2 cells

[prime ore]

freeelo what?

I expected secondary to be like rlly hard cuz it clears all the fog for the mission right

[thick stump]

some objectives are super free, but change the main mission, because as far as I can remember, it gonna remove the infectious but makes the whole game foggy, which is kinda fine

[prime ore]

267 has the

bulkhead key right

it does okay

[thick stump]

I think so, with some shadows but good resources

[prime ore]

so when I put the cell in it just like

charger sustain right?

[thick stump]

let me check

[prime ore]

slendo said 2 scan

[thick stump]

normal class 4 alarm

[prime ore]

like it wouldnt be so free

[prime ore]

k that doesnt sound bad

[prime ore]

lol wtf is this room

its 1 shadow giant on top of the door and nothing else

[thick stump]

I think there is a second one

but I am gonna go now, so have fun with the rest of the mission 👍

[prime ore]

wait FUCK

I accidentally put

my key into main

now I only have main and sec done I cannot do overload

[thick stump]

this happened to me aswell xD

[prime ore]

is this now a dead run

can I not pull this shi ou

[timber shoal]

nope

[thick stump]

you can't do overload anymore

[prime ore]

and its a dead run god damn it

I can atleast see what is in main

[timber shoal]

plus w/o the pressure of error

[prime ore]

dude these

sustain class 3 are so ass

c foaming the doors is enough to stall a sustain

[timber shoal]

yeah it’s partially meant to deincentivize permafoam

[remote plaza]

dodo rate the gamplay 1/10

be honest

[prime ore]

okay how do I deal with this

I have to do

class 4

but in the same room

there is 6 giant chargers like

[timber shoal]

uhhh

hmm

like a 3

[tardy ingot]

Kill

[timber shoal]

below average but not atrocious

[prime ore]

that did work

except I took

mild 40 dmg from 1 hit holy

[remote plaza]

Ilk take it

We running more horrendus tries later

[static kestrel]

yo what happens in r3b2

more importantly, can i solo it no bots

its the only level i havent done in r3 and that is making me angry

[sudden nexus]

you kill sleepers and get infected

[static kestrel]

sounds 2 hard i quit

[sudden nexus]

its pretty easy bot only tbh

oh no bots

[static kestrel]

fuck ass bots i hate bots

i have no need for bots

i shall prevail

[sudden nexus]

idk how good are you at true solo

its easier than c1/d1

[static kestrel]

for referemce

my best true solo is r6c1

[sudden nexus]

i believe in you

first alarm will be tough

and heavy carry back to extract

[timber shoal]

if you do class 3 it should be alright

[digital mural]

almost the whole game is soloable

except 2 levels

[static kestrel]

the 2 levels being what

r7e1 and r8e2

that sounds right

or did r7e1 get done

is that even the level i think it is

[fathom ice]

r7e1 and r6cx currently

[sudden nexus]

i think theres one thats not possible due to terminal timers

[static kestrel]

aahhhh i forget about r6cs

cx

yeahh

[static kestrel]

i have this like issue

it relates to skill

i have a big lack of it

burst for this level

?

sawed off hel rifle burst hammer

that sounds ok right

[digital mural]

Ye

[static kestrel]

dope

yo i got my ass beat

lol

[ocean spindle]

happens

[frail heart]

They all are

[sudden nexus]

oh ok

why hasnt cx been done

[frail heart]

Hard

Dimension is weird

I’m gonna do r7e1 and r6cx at some point

[burnt inlet]

isnt it due to enemies being stuck?

[frail heart]

Huh

[burnt inlet]

like R6CX solo

cuz you essentially get either 0 or 1 billion enemies

and you cant deal with a lot

[frail heart]

Nah if it was like that it would already prob be done

There are just a lot of enemies

I have some strats in mind tho

When I get back from Sweden I’ll prob try some stuff

R7E1 first tho

If we hold another comp it should be r7e1

[burnt inlet]

frfr

[frail heart]

BROOOO like Brazil skip speeds are so fun

[pseudo coyote]

I thought this was done already (albeit with spawn capping cheese)

ig depends if you count kiting / spawn cap cheese as "valid" runs

[burnt inlet]

imo they valid but not solo

[frail heart]

Yeah we more mean without doorbug and stuff

Spawn capping cheese makes every level easy

[pseudo coyote]

stuck big flyers go brrr in any run (i swear u cant really stop that lol)

[frail heart]

Lmao

[sturdy glen]

a small price to pay for the funniest enemy

[frail heart]

R7E1 at least has only been done with cheesing the room scan and cheesing reactor

[digital mural]

Ewwwww

Cheese

Cheese tastes bad

[frail heart]

Call me Swiss cause my d1ck cheesing

[digital mural]

I didn't get that

[ocean spindle]

call me pizza eater the way i eat pizza

with cheese

[frail heart]

Call me fat the way I’m fat

[urban orchid]

please no..

[ocean spindle]

call me slendi the way thats my name

[frail heart]

Call me Edwin the way I made the mimic

[urban orchid]

nooo

[ocean spindle]

call me woods the way i got the mandate of heaven

[timber shoal]

shut the fuck up

[frail heart]

[ocean spindle]

ok david u want ur icecream david u want another david where is ur ball

[timber shoal]

i’m gonna put my tongue in your mouth

[ocean spindle]

ur bad at threats

[timber shoal]

no i just want to shut you up

:3

[burnt inlet]

team i feel dirty

[timber shoal]

ewwwwwww

leave the lobby posthaste

[ocean spindle]

ladderfoam

teamkilling time

[burnt inlet]

sowwy team

[ocean spindle]

ur not pardoned

sentenced to

4 runs of r4c2 PE

[burnt inlet]

hate this strat

[timber shoal]

yuck

[ocean spindle]

zzz

u got an auto sentry WHY FOAM

[timber shoal]

that alarm is easy as fuck even without it, that’s lame as hell

[ocean spindle]

ur wasting twice the tool for 0 things better

its not even better

its just straight up worse

its like doing ladderfoam at r1c2, as if u couldnt just 3 sentry it and have jt be better

[timber shoal]

ladderfoam sucks, play the game as intended lmao

[remote plaza]

gtfo players when they have to play the game instead of sitting in a corner for 15m

[timber shoal]

me when the difficult level requires basic skills but cheesing the level is also an option

[remote plaza]

im no fan of cheese strats

if you going for speedruns or similar i understand it 100%

[burnt inlet]

dont you love it when this hits you?

[timber shoal]

is that a shadow jugger

or just a small

[burnt inlet]

Small

[timber shoal]

😭 😭 😭

bug free game

[burnt inlet]

Got gigga desynced

Just left and went bed

[remote plaza]

clear hit

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[remote plaza]

just has better gaming pc than you

[burnt inlet]

Na but like we cleared last wave and I still heard scans moving

[burnt inlet]

@pseudo coyote was controlling it

[remote plaza]

i been getting a weird bug sometimes a scan ic completely invisible

and i just know its there bc white line ends

[timber shoal]

goated tbh

[burnt inlet]

As in scan is done enemies cleared after 1.5 mins

And still heard

[timber shoal]

ladderfoam yucky

[burnt inlet]

Don’t want no dirty clear on my belt

[timber shoal]

love you for that

[burnt inlet]

Ye that’s desync

But like I couldn’t open lockers, grab res

[remote plaza]

god saw your strat and punished you with desync

[burnt inlet]

Wasn’t even mine

Host of the lobby wanted cfoam

[remote plaza]

tell that to a judge

[burnt inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987489355608256512/1039657922289995826/unkeown.gif

[remote plaza]

reasonable

[timber shoal]

me an who

[burnt inlet]

Us

[reef rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841800228990222371/1301289866394341487/togif.gif

[burnt inlet]

Im pulling ur collar

[timber shoal]

huzzah!

[timber shoal]

🥺 🥺 🥺

btw i bought a leash today

[burnt inlet]

(We all know id get tied down and used)

[burnt inlet]

Fire

[reef rock]

desynced and stuck behind a security door

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[timber shoal]

snatcher core

[burnt inlet]

You’d snatch me

[timber shoal]

type shit

[remote plaza]

shit

[timber shoal]

good boy

[remote plaza]

[burnt inlet]

Shit

[static kestrel]

ok so i just did r3b2 with bots

im ngl

i do not fw this

[timber shoal]

good boy

you mean you don’t like the mom?

(understandable, by far the design that creeps me out the most)

[sudden nexus]

tbh ion like the level

[static kestrel]

nah bro i killed the mom by just walking up and shooting it with the sawed off until it died

it died in like 2 clips

[sudden nexus]

waiter waiter more alarms in fog!!

[static kestrel]

that shit was just boring

and yeah i dont fw alarms in the fog either

[timber shoal]

mom intro is good though

creepy as fuck

[reef rock]

waiter waiter more max infection

[static kestrel]

and the bots were not doing my bidding they refused to carry baby or the fog shit

so i just had to carry the baby and walk thru the infection in the end

[timber shoal]

seeing that shit barely poking out of the fog

[static kestrel]

but it didnt really make a difference tbh it was easy and boring asf

[timber shoal]

that’s what you have to do unfort

bots do not jive with error alarms

[static kestrel]

i think i would like it more if the filthy bots were more useful

and just did my bidding for me

[burnt inlet]

Bots suck with error alarm

[sudden nexus]

yea the mom intro is pretty scary for new players

but outside of that?

[static kestrel]

i needa do r2c2 d1 and e1

[sudden nexus]

not a fun level

[timber shoal]

nope

[static kestrel]

but uh later cuz my friends asked me to play league

[timber shoal]

at least they give plenty of foggies

[timber shoal]

ew

[static kestrel]

i know bro

since i dont talk to anybody or wanna talk to anybody i play league like a loser

[rustic hazel]

This is the first time I see this UI bug and ???? What? How?

[remote plaza]

the void consumes

[burnt inlet]

Hardware bug, deal with it or get new gpu, might be a mod to fix @uneven kiln

[uneven kiln]

try visorwipers, thats I think a variant of voidbug or liquidbug

[sudden nexus]

seeing hel revo reload not cancelled caught me off guard

[rustic hazel]

Thankfully it fixed itself after some minutes, but in a fog expedition it's oof

[rustic hazel]

Not an habit yet

[static kestrel]

guys

my favorite artist just dropped an album

i may or may not b in heaven

wait can i even talk about that in this chat

i lowkey treat this chat like its a general chat ngl

[sudden nexus]

no !! instant ban !!

[frail heart]

Idc

[static kestrel]

FUCKKK

[frail heart]

What artist

[static kestrel]

BRYANT BARNES

MY GOATT

[frail heart]

Never heard of him so can’t be that big 🥱

[static kestrel]

i dont like that

maybe listen and hear of him

hes good

[frail heart]

Ok give me one song to listen to and it better be good

[static kestrel]

uh

pieces

its in the album

#4 song on spotify pieces

that shit was so majestic holy shit

[frail heart]

Not my thing

Bro tryna be Joji

[static kestrel]

trying to??

bryant clears

(no he doesnt)

[frail heart]

Nuh uh

Wanna listen to one of my favourite songs

[static kestrel]

no

listening to album rn

[frail heart]

Die

[static kestrel]

i am becoming solace

you first

[sturdy glen]

LOL

[frail heart]

Suck for a suck

And you just ghosted me

[static kestrel]

what does this mean

i shall never know what it meant

[frail heart]

It means I sucked you and you didn’t suck me

[static kestrel]

bro let me finish the album

i gotchu

[frail heart]

Ur chilling

I doubt you would like the genre

[static kestrel]

why becuase i listen to this depressing ass artist? lol

[frail heart]

Yes!

I think I’m just stereotyping

My friend listen to that and the stuff I listen to

[static kestrel]

bro i like all sorta stuff

just bryant barnes is my most relatable artist rn

i just fw his shit so hard

[frail heart]

Damn

Bro feeling like bart

[static kestrel]

worse

i feel like

uhhhhhh

[frail heart]

Depressed bart

[static kestrel]

ye

ig lol

CANT YOU SEEEE

THAT YOURRRRR MYYYY EVVERYYTHINGGGG

[winter breach]

Why do you love hel rifle

Didnt you say you love HAR

[ripe hamlet]

Free money

Damn I was too late

[static kestrel]

its cuz i had joke with someone

putting this in my name was redepntion

oh wait

@frail heart