gtfo-related-questions

[tardy ingot]

is crazy how R4C2 is so obscenely long

and yet such a quick run theoretically

(fuck that lvl)

[normal granite]

think my pe clear was about 2 hours

[burnt inlet]

Same

[timber shoal]

mine was 2h30m

😭

[prime ore]

OH

HOLY FINALLY

this is by far the worst designed mission ever

R2E1 is better designed

[timber shoal]

dude you didnt even hit the hard part 😭

[timber shoal]

no shit, its a good level

[prime ore]

what is worse design than forced 2 hour mission

[normal granite]

the hard part is not offing yourself while playing r4c2

[timber shoal]

not much

[prime ore]

all my bots

[timber shoal]

but sec and ov are harder

[prime ore]

had max ammo

it was so ass

its just

three alarms

and stealthing and nothing else

[prime ore]

so just instantly do

sec and overload

instead of doing the sneaky shit

[timber shoal]

nope

overload very very last

sec whenever

[prime ore]

overload lemme guess

perma alarm

that would amazing

[timber shoal]

you know it

[timber shoal]

you'd think that

[normal granite]

shadow error alarm iirc

[timber shoal]

mhm

[prime ore]

can this mission get more annoying

[timber shoal]

and an intense one at that

[timber shoal]

sec

[prime ore]

I feel like I dont even wanna PE this

just how awful it is by design

[timber shoal]

i didnt want to

easily top three worst levels

[prime ore]

do you get anything for doing a PE except self confidence

[timber shoal]

and an achievement

[prime ore]

what could be worse

[timber shoal]

this is preetty up there

i personally despise r5b2 more

[normal granite]

the only reason i did pe r4c2, is because i wanted to do all objectives no matter what (i have never done main only in missions with optional objectives besides r8c1 and r8b4)

[prime ore]

is it another

forced 2 hour mission?

[normal granite]

i dont remember

i hated all of r5 except r5b3

[prime ore]

holy is R5 that bad

even australians hate it

[normal granite]

not really, i just really dont like it

[prime ore]

are they boring

cancerous

or something else

like actual fun missions

[normal granite]

dont remember

i think ive like mentally blocked all of r5

only parts i remember are r5b4, r5b3 secondary and r5d1

[prime ore]

not even

R5E1??

is it that fuckin boring

[normal granite]

i only remember the cool ending room

[prime ore]

KDS deep seems like a crazy name

[timber shoal]

nah

[burnt inlet]

R5B1 PE moment

[timber shoal]

its not even that long tbh

b2 is worse imo

[burnt inlet]

That one is fun

[prime ore]

Why do mission start getting so long from this

[burnt inlet]

Yep both are TRASH tho

[prime ore]

Point thats crazy

[timber shoal]

most of them aren

t

but r5 sucks

[tardy ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i26dkzI5zrs

[burnt inlet]

ur gonna have fun with RxD2 PE

[tardy ingot]

(dw i agree, fuck R4C2. Its tedious, slow, boring and long)

[prime ore]

Thats some bullshit

[tardy ingot]

fun fact, R4C2 and its level name pabulum were banned from my twitch chat for about a year xD

[frail heart]

we only did one completed run lol

[tardy ingot]

it only got unbanned when chat hit a spin goal during a bday 12 hour stream

[tardy ingot]

huh? we had a few more, they just werent that good iirc no

[prime ore]

Okay its THAT BAD

[tardy ingot]

we had a high 5 min run

[frail heart]

i dont think so

maybe

[tardy ingot]

speeedrun baby

[burnt inlet]

Stev is gonna love R6D1

[prime ore]

Okay question how do you do like all of that sneaky shit in 5 mins

[burnt inlet]

(I think that’s one of the more enjoyable long levels ngl)

[prime ore]

What magic has been used except seeding

[timber shoal]

no sneaking :3

[normal granite]

was about to ask which d2, then remembered the different d2 missions lol

[timber shoal]

sprint and smack

[burnt inlet]

Seeding isn’t allowed

[tardy ingot]

its not seeded

also wdym "stealth"

[thick stump]

watch the video and you will see, it is just 5 minutes

[normal granite]

@prime ore in speedruns, stealth pretty much doesnt exist

[prime ore]

By sneaky shit I meant all of that hallway stuff

[frail heart]

bro i did ONE seeded run and now every run is seeded 🥀

[burnt inlet]

Yep, tbf could be talking about several i think but I think you know which one i mean

[prime ore]

Like its so long

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[tardy ingot]

TECHNICALLY we did 2. The R1A1 test run recently was seeded

[frail heart]

watch the run

[prime ore]

And also like

[burnt inlet]

Marked forever by ur cheats

[burnt inlet]

You just quick stealth

Ez

[normal granite]

no i mean most of them kinda arent great pe

[burnt inlet]

Or shoot

Ez

[burnt inlet]

I meant one specific one 😭 but yea

[normal granite]

which one

if its r5, i dont remember that one

[burnt inlet]

No I’m not saying cuz Stev is here

[prime ore]

R4 has been going so ass rn for us

[normal granite]

dm

[burnt inlet]

But u remember it

Another sphere level

[prime ore]

Its either boring or epik

R4C1 vs R4C2

[tardy ingot]

neither of those are epci

[normal granite]

r4c1 was fun

[burnt inlet]

Frfr 😭

[tardy ingot]

well, R4C1 tank intro is kinda neat i guess

[prime ore]

Tank introduction was fun as shit

[tardy ingot]

meanwhile R4C3 and R4D1 are sick

R4D2 and R4E1 aswell

[normal granite]

me who placed 7 trip mines

[prime ore]

We def shat ourselves first time we aimed into that little window on that door

[burnt inlet]

R4D2 makes you deserved to get sent to eight ring of hell Eva

Unless you do the quick strats

[prime ore]

Oh yeah I heard

R4D2 is dogshit

[frail heart]

its not

they're just bad

[burnt inlet]

Depends which strat you take

[normal granite]

r4d2 mid

r4d1 goated

[burnt inlet]

If ur good its fun i imagine

[normal granite]

number 4 fav level

[sturdy glen]

no r4d2 is always dogshit

[prime ore]

Every reactor is fun lowkey

[sturdy glen]

do not be lead astray

[prime ore]

Even tho we struggle with them sometimes

[normal granite]

r6d1 reactor is awesome

[burnt inlet]

If you do quick strat it might not be that bad cuz ur like time stressed

[timber shoal]

nah its decent

[prime ore]

I really wanna see the mission

[frail heart]

dawg what is quick strat

[burnt inlet]

Unfortunately its skipped in speeds but speeds are also super fun for R6D1

[ocean spindle]

r4d2 is fun :3

[timber shoal]

just dont touch the sphere off th bat

[burnt inlet]

Taking sphere before you “should” be

[tardy ingot]

"maid kill me"

[frail heart]

bro said sphere

[normal granite]

hmmm yes, fog diving

everyones favourite

[frail heart]

also that is very hard

and no one is doing that

[sturdy glen]

that has been done once ever im pretty sure

[ocean spindle]

taking the data

[burnt inlet]

Lowkey very very fun

[sturdy glen]

literally no one is doing that

[frail heart]

i did it with uhhh

tom?

[burnt inlet]

Yea cuz its a sphere

[prime ore]

Well call that shit a watermelon first time we saw it

[tardy ingot]

i dunno how often its been done in og

but its been done a few times in alt

[frail heart]

and a couple others a few weeks ago or smth

[burnt inlet]

It is a watermelon

Contains watermelon seed

[sturdy glen]

tom is still playin?

W

[frail heart]

yeah

[prime ore]

I mean its

Heavy

Its ball

And its green

[frail heart]

cargo DUMBASS

[burnt inlet]

Oh rite

Mb

Same thing

[prime ore]

Seems kinda sus

[tardy ingot]

its neither green nor a ball

[timber shoal]

bowlng ball

does the warden mind if i dribble the datasphere

[tardy ingot]

Dodo, you need to finish R5 still right

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-lebron-james-goat-starting-5-honor-gif-8026843632139580942

[timber shoal]

e1 yeah

[tardy ingot]

ah so you did R5D2 already kk

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[tardy ingot]

such a fun level honestly

[timber shoal]

fun fuckin level

[prime ore]

In R4C1 its pretty green unless it lit changes appearence during other missions

[burnt inlet]

Did we trio it?

[tardy ingot]

R4D2 doesnt have a datasphere

[frail heart]

r5d2 speedrun is pretty goated

[tardy ingot]

is the point

[burnt inlet]

Or did we quad

[timber shoal]

quad

[burnt inlet]

We quadded with rem and eph yea

[tardy ingot]

I love how during about 1 out of 10 runs we just meleed 80% of the BEEEEG alarm

[frail heart]

lol yeah

[tardy ingot]

the other 50% had us scream at tgb to kill shooters

[frail heart]

dont let tgb use a hel rifle

[tardy ingot]

(but also have him use hel rifle)

[burnt inlet]

Plays like me with it

[tardy ingot]

the grand dilemma

[timber shoal]

bro rem and moth were going for melee on reactor waves in my clear

[tardy ingot]

no he actually scopes in

[burnt inlet]

😔 nvm

[normal granite]

which reactor has 3 tanks at the end?

is it 5d2?

[civic wave]

now i wonder, do 100% of runs have you scream at tgb

[frail heart]

yes

[civic wave]

ya

[frail heart]

yes

[normal granite]

right of passage

[burnt inlet]

Ain’t a run unless you scream at him

[ocean spindle]

yes

[tardy ingot]

during any attempts in total? maybe idk

@little pilot you gotta go into R7E1 as host for 20 hours and study pablo smh

learn to control to bullshit

[frail heart]

i invite pablo over to "study"

[tardy ingot]

(we love pablo just ignoring the romanian guy shooting at it)

[burnt inlet]

Goin in for the pegging session

[civic wave]

(the only acceptable form of racism)

[tardy ingot]

honestly

I think the person who got fucked over by pablo the hardest

[little pilot]

it is genuienly doing the same thing twice and getting different results

[tardy ingot]

was kenny

THAT clip is so bullshit

[little pilot]

like pablo genuienly just hates romanian femboys specifically

[burnt inlet]

Luckily I’m not Romanian

[civic wave]

you? a femboy? well i'll be damned

[little pilot]

L bozo you don't have 1200 stolen wallets in ur home

[burnt inlet]

I’m sorry id like it for my town to have cellular

[frail heart]

i know where you live

[burnt inlet]

Frosty i will make ur WiFi even slower

[normal granite]

i also know where i live

[civic wave]

i know which cell tower you're pinging off

[burnt inlet]

I’m pinging off cell_tower_153

[normal granite]

ping cell_tower_153

[burnt inlet]

Team why did a green blimp come from the local cell tower

[thick stump]

isn't the ping orange? I am not colorblind

[frail heart]

ZOMG

[burnt inlet]

Ur colourblind hate to break it

[burnt inlet]

Why is a blimp driving on the road?

[civic wave]

i'm colourblind and can absolutely say that it is green

[civic wave]

this is going to go down like a lead zeppelin

[digital mural]

[little pilot]

i'm a tree and i can absolutely say that it is black (i don't have eyes)

[normal granite]

id believe that tgb doesnt have eyes

[burnt inlet]

Knowing his hel rifle shots id also say he doesn’t

[wet bear]

I hope you use stolen horse to store them all

[civic wave]

you have alerted the horse

[burnt inlet]

Only way to travel for him

[thick stump]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horse-you-have-alerted-the-horse-pretty-derby-uma-musume-gif-15063465391514740847

[digital mural]

Uma Musume reference!

[burnt inlet]

Omg its the chin

[wet bear]

I thought he use power of sex that charges up with bbc pics to travel long distance

[burnt inlet]

Thats mental travel i mean physical

[wet bear]

I meant physical too, I just don't have the one gif with that power

[fleet tusk]

guys for this part so I just go to terminal_924 and type "REACTOR_VERIFY"? or is there any other command I need to input first?

[normal granite]

go to the terminal and type logs

[burnt inlet]

No you go to the terminal, type in logs, read reactor_ver…

[normal granite]

the

read "log name" (no quotes)

[fleet tusk]

so

1. logs
2. reactor_verify?

[thick stump]

then the terminal gonna show you the code

[burnt inlet]

And that gives you the code which you’ll input in reactor terminal

[fleet tusk]

ahh I see

[frail heart]

You get the code you need for the reactor in the terminal

[fleet tusk]

thanks for the info guys

[civic wave]

go to terminal_924
LOGS
READ REACTOR_VER#0#.LOG
this gives you the code (####)

then on the main reactor terminal used for startup you reactor verify wirh the code
REACTOR_VERIFY ####

in case nothing above was clear

[fleet tusk]

Once again thanks

[west raven]

make sure to confirm reactor verification in the end by typing start threat_level_M.exe

(don't do this)

[tame trench]

if you do it at the beginning you skip the first wave

[west raven]

if you do light testing at the start of a reactor does it matter

don't the lights go on and off with the reactor on each wave

[ripe hamlet]

r7c1 error is wonky asf

wiki said that the error will change but it feels like theyre stacking

and also we get a single giant in section that shouldnt have them

but its free so no complain

[ocean spindle]

the glp? it canhave bigs in the 3rd one

wdym

[ripe hamlet]

we were in the 2nd one

[ocean spindle]

[[R7C1]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R7C1

[ocean spindle]

oh idr then

[ripe hamlet]

and somehow there were giants

wiki said its 3rd one yeah

[ocean spindle]

ohn second seems miswriten

literally its the first one

[ripe hamlet]

the error also stacks as we get like 6-8 sleepers per wave

[ocean spindle]

"Entering either zone will start an Error Alarm, spawning 4 Strikers/Shooters every ~30 seconds until all 9 GLP-2 Canisters are collected."
"Entering either zone will change the Error Alarm, spawning 4 Strikers/Shooters every ~20 seconds.2

ah yes 4 to 4, the scale

[ripe hamlet]

the interval change

[ocean spindle]

just very 20 ksks

but i swear it also spawned more didnt it

[ripe hamlet]

yeah

but maybe its just general r7 wonkiness

aside from that one giant we never get a single one for the third zone error change

but we were pretty fast so maybe wed just lucky

[ocean spindle]

maybe its just like r3d1 but way lower chance

[ripe hamlet]

possible

[arctic vine]

How do I address the issue of when placing a turret, the game just freezes like it's trying to process that a turret was placed?
Kind of really bad especially on high panic moments.

[timber shoal]

i'd check #1049599987878723635 to see if others have had this issue before

[digital mural]

That's bad connection

[arctic vine]

it happens also when i'm playing solo

[digital mural]

Surprisingly you can still have a bad connection when playing solo

I recommend checking #1049599987878723635 as Dodo said

[arctic vine]

Welp just checked alot of that place but couldn't find a similar issue

[tiny wyvern]

This is new to me

Can you make a new thread? i'll try summoning the peps that are more familiar with the game to take a look
(Also try relaunching the game and see if it improves)

[arctic vine]

did more digging on the threads and it seems like the issue is old but unsolved

[harsh heath]

Dodo_Druid and cat are playing

[placid dagger]

any advice on R1B2

me and my friend are getting cooked

like what guns are bad and gun

[west raven]

which part are you dying in

[tiny wyvern]

What are you dying to?

It's been an hour so Idk if they're still here

oh well

[west raven]

it shouldn't be all that difficult

3 alarms, class 2 3 4

[tiny wyvern]

Well if you faq up in the shooter zones

[west raven]

anything with "hel" in the name is a good enough weapon

[tiny wyvern]

You really should stick to melee and not shoot

Outside of that ye hel rev, hel rifle
Use what you feel comfortable with

No bigs, so no snipers

[west raven]

for r1b2 you could bring a DMR because oops all shooters

[tiny wyvern]

Can dmr one shot shooter?

[west raven]

ye

oh maybe not because alarms aren't oups all shooters probably

[prime ore]

R4B3 rn

taking 2nd cryo in sec

wont activate anything

so Ik I pick it up after overload

also sustains are something lets just say

[tardy ingot]

genuinely quite nice design

[tardy ingot]

yea, you just gotta freaking carry them back to the start... which is tedious as hell

[prime ore]

2 bots work👍🏿

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-god-of-war-kratos-yeet-gif-11086204362047422263

[prime ore]

they are long as hell too

its like 3 minutes of sustaining

and that was a class I

[tardy ingot]

its long because its an S 1

[prime ore]

ik that it would be free but like is every sustain gonna be like 3 minutes each

[tardy ingot]

no?

also I dont think that they are 3 minutes long

[wet bear]

Maybe someone brought -bioscanspeed%

[uneven kiln]

large sustains are 143s solo and 100s with a full team

[prime ore]

question in sec

where will enemies spawn from

123 room before the bulkhead hub

or in 125

[burnt inlet]

north

[ripe hamlet]

r4b3 was super intense for me

fucking host migration the moment we start the last uplink spliting us into parallel universe each having to solo our individual uplink

[normal granite]

ngl, that sounds like a cool idea for a level

[ripe hamlet]

its cool

caught us by surprise

[placid dagger]

mb i sent the text and went to sleep

were dying on the last part where we have to run

because the giants are just fat bullet sponges

[digital mural]

Well yes if you are using the wrong guns for giants

[thick stump]

to clarify, there are no giants on the last part, so are we still talking about R1B2?

[placid dagger]

yeh there were like 5 to 6 in one room

[vagrant current]

Spear is the best gun against them

[digital mural]

No.....

Also that's a melee not a gun

🤓

[thick stump]

do I hear the speargun? 🤔

[digital mural]

Spear but it has a pistol duct taped on the tip

[thick stump]

ohh, I think you mean R1B1 and not R1B2

[placid dagger]

nah im on r1b2 just checked

[tardy ingot]

R1B2 only has giants reliably in Zone 19

which you neither have to go to or through

[digital mural]

Omg Eva is here

[tardy ingot]

(its a scuffed resource zone which simply isnt worth going into pretty much)

[thick stump]

is this the resource zone or how do I missed that?

[tardy ingot]

and with giants I also mean "giant shooters"

Zone 19 is the "resource" zone yes

it has chickens

[digital mural]

Big shooters can't melee so you can gang up and melee them without issue

[placid dagger]

on my life theres at least 10 giants we saw throughout the level

[tardy ingot]

did you go into Zone 19?

then yes

otherwise, very unlikely to even see 2

(waves from the 3 alarms you need to do obviously will still spawn 1 or 2)

[thick stump]

giants are different from big shooters, and big shooters can be easily killed melee because they can't melee attack

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-ashton-hall-gta-5-rage-gif-1364330757071934468

[placid dagger]

can u even melee a giant they tall asl

[digital mural]

Yes

Charge your melee and hit the limbs

[thick stump]

even easy solo if you do everything correctly

[digital mural]

You'll break the limb and stagger them enough time to hit them again

[tardy ingot]

you can melee basically everything in this game if you rly want to

[digital mural]

With a team is extremely easier

[digital mural]

👀

[tardy ingot]

i remember watching beginners on r1b2 rdy for the class 4
1 sentry at 100%
2 at 30%

they went "we need more sentry for this or we will die!" (all at 80+% hp and near 100% ammo)

then they did the class 2 alarm, using sentries entirely becaus there was tool inside

cuz they put down sentries for chickens too they ended up at <40% sentry in total

[placid dagger]

whats a sentry

[tardy ingot]

"smort"

....

what

[digital mural]

The turret you place down

[tardy ingot]

[digital mural]

You
You did the tutorial right

[placid dagger]

i skip those

[digital mural]

You checked the tools in the lobby?

[digital mural]

...

No comment

[placid dagger]

only my guns

[tardy ingot]

#guides-and-reviews message
watch this

[timber shoal]

this is not an easy game 😭

you're not gonna make it far without knowing the basic shit

[digital mural]

Nah Dodo, they'll learn sooner or later

[timber shoal]

no they wont

[vagrant current]

Tutorials are optional

[digital mural]

Also spear is bad

Sjshsjsjsjsjsj

[timber shoal]

they'll quit because "the games too hard"

[thick stump]

I agree, instead of learning, they quit the game 🥲

[vagrant current]

Spear for lyfe

[digital mural]

I forgot the mandatory spear bad comment

[placid dagger]

whatever bro ima go pro in this game

[tardy ingot]

[digital mural]

Go ahead

[timber shoal]

sure man

[vagrant current]

I mean I never did the tutorial, but I liked the vibe and gameplay so much I ended up doing every mission several times.

Just saying, it's possible.

[tardy ingot]

tbf the tutorial has only been in the game since mid 2022

(aka og rundown 7(

and its not crazy good

but someone on R1B2 saying "what is a sentry"

couldve easily been helped out

by doing the tutorial

[digital mural]

Tools are by far one of the most important things in the game

Probably 2nd or 3rd

[uneven kiln]

the other most important thing in the game is you

[tardy ingot]

tools are a major reason for why we say that ammo is abundant af

cuz they can result in so many kills

a singular mine killing 15 enemies mean even the best hel rifle pen player is saving bullets

[vagrant current]

I think that's the beauty of this game, there is no progression other than your knowledge. It can't be easily measured.

[digital mural]

Erm actually unlocking levels is also progression

🤓

[tardy ingot]

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-14969906419403202204

[tardy ingot]

cosmetic progression erm actually

[digital mural]

The most important one

The lemon head

[tardy ingot]

and it clearly states that cosmetics increase your odds of survival

the lemon head is where my power comes from

[uneven kiln]

the early adopter palette is also where EVA's power comes from

[ripe hamlet]

cosmetic makes your character more recognisable at a glance

real tangible benefit

gtfo is truly a meta progression roguelite game after all

[placid dagger]

i was fighting a gaint whiffed the head then he smacked me and headbutt me

[topaz anvil]

classic

[ripe hamlet]

ez 80% health down

[placid dagger]

my hypothesis is they are only vulnerable to guns

[topaz anvil]

You should test this hypothesis

[timber shoal]

sure

[timber shoal]

dont miss :3

[placid dagger]

ima try it with spear

[timber shoal]

eww

[placid dagger]

my dude to short to hit them

[ripe hamlet]

you can jump

v. useful

[timber shoal]

you can also hit giant head from standing

[ripe hamlet]

you can also sprint

also highly applicable

[thick stump]

also a full charge to one of its limbs gonna break it and stagger the giant, which gives you time to charge again and break another limb and repeat that after it dies, no guns needed

I am talking about hammer and spear, I don't recommend you trying to kill a giant solo with a knife or bat as a beginner

[ripe hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shaquille-o'neal-shaq-time-out-stop-stop-it-gif-8464852630431003027

you dont try to tempt a newbie to try to solo meele a giant

[burnt inlet]

😭

[timber shoal]

tempting them right now :3

[tardy ingot]

im more concerned that they missed a giant and then got slapped

[topaz anvil]

@timber shoal gtfo?

[ripe hamlet]

ill solo melee you

let me get a couple drinks in first

[normal granite]

time to melee ||mega mother||

[timber shoal]

🥺

[tardy ingot]

done

[normal granite]

ALL MELEE????

[thick stump]

I think Pablo is much funnier

[tardy ingot]

yes

[ripe hamlet]

melee pablo pls

[tardy ingot]

pablo simply isnt possible

he is the 1 exception

[normal granite]

thats just giving him a hug

[timber shoal]

not with that attitude :3

[ripe hamlet]

😔

[normal granite]

uh well actually, 1 billion is not infinite

[ripe hamlet]

what about snatcher

[thick stump]

they also melee killed || Kraken || xD

[normal granite]

just would take FOREVER

[tardy ingot]

i mean I could downpatch and do it on the 1 patch where you could have him die with a melee

but that wouldnt rly be an achievement

[tardy ingot]

no he takes 0 dmg due to rounding

[prime ore]

F

[normal granite]

which level did they do that in lol

[prime ore]

R4B3 OVERLOAD

[normal granite]

damn

[prime ore]

rn

[thick stump]

no, it is really impossible because of the armor, the game runs your damage to 0

[prime ore]

we have a issue

we got a sustain to go

but there is a room

with a sleeping mother

will enemies spawn inside 364

[tardy ingot]

count the rooms

[normal granite]

which level?

[tardy ingot]

R4B3

[ripe hamlet]

sleeping mom is free anyway

[normal granite]

there's a mother in b3?

[ripe hamlet]

just dump everything into her

[topaz anvil]

nuke the mom :3

[tardy ingot]

count the rooms and see if they can spawn or scream in there (the answer is basically always no lol)

[thick stump]

scattergun is the solution to all your problems

[normal granite]

ayo?

[timber shoal]

surely only one

[ripe hamlet]

we gang up on a sleeping mother

[prime ore]

we dont have a scatter

[tardy ingot]

R8E2
pablo is technically the only enemy I havent melee killed

[prime ore]

only combat shotgun

[normal granite]

yeah thats safe

[vagrant current]

Can you CFoam it?

[digital mural]

You can foam everything

[prime ore]

are you like 100% sure like

[ripe hamlet]

how did you melee kill a snatcher

[thick stump]

just gather everyone and shoot at the same, she doesn't have that much HP

[ripe hamlet]

it sounds incredibly painful

[normal granite]

just shut the door to her room and you will be golden

[vagrant current]

I mean in their situation, not as a general question

[tardy ingot]

by... meleeing?

2 hammers stagger him

you can even do it solo if you just dodge the snatch

[normal granite]

if stagger = can kill?

(with melee)

[prime ore]

do we greed and ignore her

[digital mural]

You press the melee button

[prime ore]

do we greed its in C

[ripe hamlet]

i didnt even know you can melee stagger him

[normal granite]

yeah its safe

[tardy ingot]

[ripe hamlet]

or dodge the snatch

[prime ore]

is this safe doing it

[normal granite]

but i wanna cfoam the kraken :(

[digital mural]

4 foam launchers = ez game

[tardy ingot]

wat?

[ripe hamlet]

you cant foam the dog

[prime ore]

364C

has a mother

[tardy ingot]

stev... do you know the god damn alarm spawn rules

and regarding foaming. you can foam all but the ||flying enemies|| and snatcher

even pablo gets foamed

[thick stump]

is there a list of how many bubbles we need to cfoam each enemy? 🤔

[prime ore]

no??

[tardy ingot]

the wiki might have it

[digital mural]

I foam him everyday

[prime ore]

ik

[ripe hamlet]

im pretty sure the wiki has it

[prime ore]

enemies can wake up shit

[burnt inlet]

2 rooms away

[prime ore]

if mother wakes up its gg

[normal granite]

i assume it just needs a TON of foam?

[tardy ingot]

[prime ore]

yeah but cannot they break

from there

[uneven kiln]

pablo requires less foam than tank

[topaz anvil]

Anyone for some random bullshit go kinda gtfo?

[prime ore]

to C and wake shit up

[tardy ingot]

this is like one of THE basic things you need to know

[digital mural]

Omg Quad

[burnt inlet]

they path closest way to you

[tardy ingot]

god stev, you need to learn about

• spawn rules
• pathing rules
• scream rules

these you can actually all test for yourself at a basic level

[thick stump]

this is also the first thing I teach beginners on the first alarm in R1A1

[topaz anvil]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1060572945082224751

[tardy ingot]

R1A1 sadly isnt the greatest level to teach about it entirely. But it still shows that shit spawns at least 2 rooms away...

well, with exceptions obviously

[digital mural]

E2 is great for teaching people

[ripe hamlet]

pathing rule?

[normal granite]

nah we love r8a2 secondary to teach peoplke

[burnt inlet]

the humble R5C1

[ripe hamlet]

is it the fact that they break door when 2 room away and then go thru open door when 1 room away

[thick stump]

E2 gives also a lot of time for people to teach xD

[digital mural]

Path of least resistance

[vagrant current]

Abuse it

[tardy ingot]

thats less due to it being an exception and more that you dont have other options

R7B1 is an exception for example (2nd alarm)

[burnt inlet]

yeppers

[ripe hamlet]

r1c2 alarm has 3 room spawn right

[tardy ingot]

goooes waaaaay more indepth than that in essence

a lot of alarm technically have "3 room spawns" but effectively the majority are 2 room spawns that youll see

pathing rules on a basic level are:
enemies follow the path of least resistance in order of

1. least rooms to cross
2. least doors to break
3. least distance to cover

[burnt inlet]

they also often prioritize ladders

[tardy ingot]

there is exceptions and specifics like them getting sucked into doors when they get to close if you are on the other side of the door (via some path) technically or their pathing being wonky when you get further away

cuz ladder = direct path

[uneven kiln]

I can't wait for stev to read absolutely none of this and ask again 24h later

[tardy ingot]

yup

[digital mural]

yup

[normal granite]

goldfish

[digital mural]

Ufrsyhllreuhko

[normal granite]

wut

[burnt inlet]

@prime ore takes notes

[digital mural]

Goldfishes have good memory tho

[normal granite]

(yeah i know, im saying it in the hopes that stev will ironically remember what was said)

[prime ore]

366

is a blood door

[digital mural]

Mine

[ripe hamlet]

is there a wiki page somewhere that i can read about enemy pathing

[uneven kiln]

the place where enemy pathing gets really muddy is door magnetism

doesnt happen terribly often

[prime ore]

HOLY THAT WAS LETHAL

[uneven kiln]

but I had it happen on the alarm after inserting the cell in 537 in R5E1

[prime ore]

WE DIDNT EXPECT AN ISNTANT MOTHER

[ripe hamlet]

surely if i know how enemy path imma become a god of hel weapon

[timber shoal]

hehe :3

jumpscare

[prime ore]

does activating the terminal

make a

perma alarm

[uneven kiln]

idk go input it and see

[timber shoal]

not perma, but make sure you ahve ammo

[prime ore]

more spawns??

[timber shoal]

possibly

just make sure you have ammo

[digital mural]

Perhaps

[ripe hamlet]

surely not a scaling error alarm spawning hybrids

[normal granite]

perchance

surely not r2e1

[digital mural]

Tanks*

[fathom ice]

idt it scales

[normal granite]

mega mothers

[fathom ice]

it just bugs out sometimes so it double spawns

[timber shoal]

waiter! waiter! one billion hybrids please!

[thick stump]

so if I shoot a blob directly on the enemy, it counts as 3 units, so I can devide those numbers by 3 or do I misunderstand something?

[timber shoal]

yes

[prime ore]

IT IS PERMA WHAT

[normal granite]

who would win

1 billion tanks or 1 of every pokemon?

[digital mural]

Pablo

[timber shoal]

???

no its not

[digital mural]

Pablo solos

[thick stump]

thank you very much

[uneven kiln]

if you shoot blobs directly on the same exact spot on an enemy, those blobs do not count

I have long lamented that "feature"

because they even disappear

[digital mural]

Heh

[uneven kiln]

but they don't actually

[normal granite]

RESPOND DAMN IT

[thick stump]

ohh, this explains things

[summer ember]

does it often crash for you too

[vagrant current]

What is your guys personal most annoying level? Not hard, just annoying.

[prime ore]

kay its not perma

[uneven kiln]

R5B2 PE

[digital mural]

R5D1

[prime ore]

holy jumpscare

[normal granite]

nah this isnt gtfo

this is something entirely unrelated but its taking AGES

[burnt inlet]

R5B1 PE and B2 PE

[uneven kiln]

I like how all of these levels are R5

[vagrant current]

alot of R5s

[uneven kiln]

R5 truly is a rundown of extreme highs and extreme lows

[vagrant current]

my least fave rundown

[normal granite]

mostly lows imo

[burnt inlet]

R5A whatever has cell cluster in like overload

[vagrant current]

What's your favorite rundown as a whole?

[tardy ingot]

R8/R6

[digital mural]

R8

[uneven kiln]

R8

[normal granite]

for me its either 6 or 8

[vagrant current]

dang

[burnt inlet]

R6 (havent done R8)

[vagrant current]

alot of 8

due to the story?

[normal granite]

we need to get you an r8 clear

[tardy ingot]

just better design

[burnt inlet]

i have some levels

[uneven kiln]

good level design ideas

[tardy ingot]

they generally improved level design with R6-R8

[burnt inlet]

but am waiting

[digital mural]

Incredible voice acting, decent story, good level design, fun levels

[tardy ingot]

R7 went a bit into... gimmick territory so a lot of levels have smth thats just kinda

[vagrant current]

I like R3 the most, idk i started in og 3 so it feels like home

[tardy ingot]

but they are good too

R3 with
A1 - ok
A2 - good
A3 - ok
B1 - blurgh
B2 - ok
C1 - bleh
D1 - goated

[burnt inlet]

R7D1 :3

[tardy ingot]

R7D1 is flawed but a very interesting level

[uneven kiln]

the humble deactivate alarms command on the same terminal with a room scan command

[tardy ingot]

honestly im moreso talking about stuff like R7A1 term start
R7B1 collection case
R7B2... sec
R7C1 cell walk
R7C3 melee bs
R7E1 pablo

[ripe hamlet]

the irresistable urge to do alarm cancelling at every opportunity

[digital mural]

Pablo is peak

[tardy ingot]

for 1 alarm and the ending

other than that he is boring as hell

[digital mural]

:(

[tardy ingot]

me having to go back and babysit his shit again

oof

I thought I finally escaped

[ripe hamlet]

he shouldve been like the immortal snail

[digital mural]

I'm going to learn how to make modded rundowns and make a Pablo rundown

[ripe hamlet]

just insta kill you

[normal granite]

every sleeper is pablo

[digital mural]

It will be a dating simulator

In the complex

[vagrant current]

modded rundowns are kind of a pain to make

[normal granite]

huniepop with pablo

[digital mural]

Based reference

🙏 🙏

[ripe hamlet]

3 hour babysitting pablo

[vagrant current]

you basically are just giving suggestions for room sizes in the json bodies. the actual room you get is pro. generated.

[ocean spindle]

pablo is so hard to use

even daki in occlu tries and, it didnt quite panned out

[uneven kiln]

Unfortunately, Pablo is more of a nuisance/babysitting task than an actual menace

[thick stump]

I like the staring contest against him

[grizzled patrol]

a dinner for two

[mossy flame]

Hey, sorry if this is a dumb question. Are there any graphics settings (besides shadow quality, I imagine) that negatively affect Shadow visibility if they're turned off? I've seen videos of people getting at least a faint silhouette while I get absolutely nothing with my flashlight pointed at them and at breath-smelling range. I could also be doing something completely wrong of which I could not be aware.

[safe cradle]

Depends on the flashlight too

Not all guns have the same flashlights

and melee flashlight is the shittiest

That said I'll admit that fog quality to max makes it somewhat easier to see in low light condition from far, at least under certain circumstances, but it doesn't impact as much as shadow quality.

[mossy flame]

Thanks, I've been trying to figure out what's going on for a while now. My ass might just be blind

[safe cradle]

A tip: if you want to test this stuff faster, R5D2 has shadows right at the beginning

Other good candidates are R2C1, R4D2...

And some others for sure

[mossy flame]

Fuck it, I'll take a look

[agile field]

One of the few people in this server I have more hours on Steam.

[normal granite]

oh god how many lol

my sister has about 60

[prime ore]

I finally reached 100 mark after getting my ass whooped on R4B3

This game will reach the top of all my other hours probably

Closest thing to long amount of hours I have is terraria from covid which is around 700 but still

Lowkey that would sound interesting for me to beat this game under my terraria amount of hours

[normal granite]

(we werent talking about gtfo lol)

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-ashton-hall-gta-5-rage-gif-1364330757071934468

[prime ore]

You still get the point tho

I've been playing stardew valley with my girlfriend more than this game not gonna lie

[agile field]

6.1 hours~

[agile field]

Were we not?

[normal granite]

the game i was talking about is the one a2asswordd called a "based reference"

my gtfo time is 400+

[prime musk]

fifth of my playtime and still beat the game before me

ggs

[ripe hamlet]

r7b3pe solo when

[frail heart]

[timber shoal]

[[Flier]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Flier?action=edit&redlink=1

[timber shoal]

kms

[[Flyer]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Flyer

[sick mauve]

@uneven kiln can you make this a redirect

[prime musk]

not happening

have entire r5 and r6 before that if i decide to go through

for now 4c3 and 4d2 are like ass enough to be making me not want to continue

[uneven kiln]

I'd say it's eligible for one, yeah. The redirects need a lot of cleanup

[placid dagger]

which is better the shelling arid 5 or the mastaba r66

[prime musk]

different purposes

just clearing smalls mastaba, mixed enemies/heavier enemies it's shelling

[placid dagger]

k

[sudden nexus]

which are those

[prime musk]

high cal is shelling arid 5 and revolver is mastaba r66

[sudden nexus]

ah

[digital mural]

Smh

You should learn all the manufacturer names

[sudden nexus]

i know bp is shelling nano

scatter is drekker smth

[digital mural]

Which drekker

[sudden nexus]

something with an i?

[prime musk]

inex drei

[sudden nexus]

yea that

[winter breach]

Techman veruta XII

[harsh heath]

Your group is on a 2 day streak! 🔥 Here are yesterday's results:
👑 4/6: @timber shoal
5/6: @summer ember

[summer ember]

💪

[vestal crest]

how does room blocking work? (positioning someone in a room to stop spawns) I thought enemies had to spawn at least 2 rooms away from any player, but in missions like r3d1 I've seen enemies spawn on top of players.

is it just because there isnt a zone 2 rooms away to spawn in or something?

[timber shoal]

i believe that error waves are different from alarm waves/reactor waves

[vestal crest]

ive also seen 1 room spawns on uplinks

[timber shoal]

uplinks are 1 room away spawns

specifically uplinks

[vestal crest]

well having all 4 players in the uplink room fixed it tho

r5b2

[timber shoal]

actually hold on there might be a wiki page on this before i start spreading misinfo

[[Spawns]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Spawns?action=edit&redlink=1

[timber shoal]

kms

[[Enemy Spawning]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Enemy_Spawning

[vestal crest]

I had one run where 2 players went across a room divider and we had spawns 1 zone behind the uplink, and another one where everyone was inside the same room and the behind spawns stopped so idk

[timber shoal]

so uplinks spawn enemies inside of the zone where the uplink takes place exclusively

meaning 1 room away spawns are very common

anyhow error waves are buggy or different in some way

[vestal crest]

ah hold on let me look at the map

[timber shoal]

bc you can get some stupid ass spawns like you mentioned

wanna see a clip of me getting the shit scared out of me by a bbc spawning inside me?

[vestal crest]

sure lol

aha culprit found

[timber shoal]

pretty sure i scream in the clip so like

volume warning 😭

[vestal crest]

ok lol

[vestal crest]

lmao

[timber shoal]

seems like it based the spawn off of where moth was rather than taking me into the equation

which like

goated 👍

idk

only time thats ever happened to me i think, at least never as bad as that

[frail heart]

BBC on top of you

[timber shoal]

god i wish

[vestal crest]

bro screams when taking bbc 😭

[timber shoal]

probably accurate

[vestal crest]

lmao

[frail heart]

Who made that mess

[vestal crest]

you did king

[vestal crest]

how the fuck did you end up with such a large carger wave for r5b1?

did you do both error alarms?

[timber shoal]

both error + multiple stacked

[vestal crest]

lol

does hsu reset both errors?

[timber shoal]

mhm

you can do the other as a resource zone if you pull both

[vestal crest]

yeah

I figured, but you get so many resources anyways

[timber shoal]

yeah but like

me and moth arent very smart

[vestal crest]

lmao fair

[timber shoal]

plus its more entertaining when four tall people are trying to touch you instead of just 2

[vestal crest]

4 bbc > 2 bbc

the more the merrier

[timber shoal]

exactly

[grizzled patrol]

BBBBC > BBC

[dense junco]

hey me and my friends got to R1D1. Can invisible enemies be picked up by scanner and if they do will the turrets shoot at them if they a pinged?

[digital mural]

Yep

You just figured it out

Keep in mind the ping on shadow enemies last less than normal enemies

So there will be a couple seconds during the biotracker cool down you won't be able to see them

[safe cradle]

Pings on NORMAL shadows last around 8 seconds I think, for the record

Sentries shoot shadows ONLY if they're pinged

[dense junco]

ah kk i guess time to switch to weapons with thermals as well as we got wiped when invisible enemies showed up as we were running 4 turrets and weapons with ought thermals

[digital mural]

Always bring biotracker

ALWAYS

No level needs 4 sentries

[safe cradle]

Bots with biotrackers can cheat and they basically insta ping everything as soon as its in range, ignoring biotracker CD

[thick stump]

also, bots are crazy with biotracker, they have more range, 360 radar and less cooldown, so if you are not 4 players, give a biotracker to a bot and he can ping them 24/7

[dense junco]

nah we are party of 4 as we got this game this weekend and planning to run it weekly

it's painful but fun at least for now

[thick stump]

in R1D1 and similar missions is good to have 3 burst sentries and 1 bio tracker

in other missions would be better to have 1 sentry, 1 mine deployer, 1 cfoam launcher and 1 biotracker, so you can prepare for different situations and gonna save much more ammo and tool in total

[dense junco]

Ye that what we normally run. It's just we had to run it for the second time and when we were turning the reactor we had better time with 4 turrets

[ocean spindle]

nows the twist, it was 4 shotgun sentries

🔥

4 auto sentries

[thick stump]

4 auto sentries sounds like a ton of fun, I think I have to try this out

[burnt inlet]

Thermal weapons are generally weaker in terms of firepower, also biotracker with normal weapons beats thermal weapons in most levels

[ocean spindle]

thermals are used as complements

no substitutions

🔥

[dense junco]

Idk I never played with them personally as I was using 2 revolver as I found them fun and have good amount of ammo

[ocean spindle]

pewpew

[timber shoal]

revolvers are a lot of fun, two of my fav weapons

[prime ore]

base revolver is prob the most fun gun to spam with

[topaz python]

how do you get better at stealthing and shooting?

[timber shoal]

there’s several guides i can forward you regarding stealth if youd like

[topaz python]

yeah sure!

ill watch em during mt lunch

[thick stump]

have you checked the #guides-and-reviews because some of the videos there are pretty good

[topaz python]

I watched D4RKEVA's stealth video

[timber shoal]

oh lmao

😭

[topaz python]

is that bad?

[timber shoal]

that’s what i was about to link you

[topaz python]

oh lol

[timber shoal]

so what part of stealth are you struggling with?

[ocean spindle]

shootin involves lots pf practice to handle ur guns and their recoil and learnn enemy pattens n stuff, lot more u stuff rlly, i guess some tips r reload cancel and just headshotting

[topaz python]

Im not sure. Seems like every room we go into we end up tripping the room

[thick stump]

what about the speed up your game video?

[topaz python]

ye

not good enough to do it tho

[thick stump]

ohh, that's quite easy, just be patient and wait more

[timber shoal]

do you understand how soft/hard triggers work and how proximity/long range aggro works?

that can help you make less mistakes when clearing rooms

[topaz python]

I think doing R2D2 so many times ruined my stealth cause that one we never stealthed any of the rooms cause no time.

[thick stump]

if enemies are glowing up or shaking, just stand still, no crouching, no standing up and no flash light, after they calmed down, you can kill one or two

[topaz python]

kind of?

sprinting instant wakes up aswell as the big flashlight

same with shooting

other things just make them pulse

[timber shoal]

big flashlight doesn’t wake instantly but you’ve got the idea

[thick stump]

the big flashlight is a soft trigger

[topaz python]

oh. well im bad then

[timber shoal]

regardless though you understand the gist

[topaz python]

last night I tripped a room using it

[topaz python]

ye

[thick stump]

what about your friend? maybe you friend is waking them up without you noticing it?

[timber shoal]

what about proxy vs long range aggro

[topaz python]

yeah thats also been happening.

[timber shoal]

bc long range aggro is the thing most likely to fuck up your room stealth

[topaz python]

whats that?

is that like the percent chance wake up thing from the guide?

[timber shoal]

yes

so if you kill an enemy

[topaz python]

I see

[timber shoal]

and there are enemies which are pulsating or glowing within a 13m radius

[topaz python]

thats probaly been it tbh

[timber shoal]

there is a chance that the closest one to you will wake as a result

[thick stump]

I never understood why some enemies randomly wake up, but that video from Eva helped me a lot to understand that

[topaz python]

yeah for sure

[timber shoal]

basically to ensure that long range doesn’t fuck you over, force everything to sync up their glowing before you go for kills if the room is dense

you can force sync by running your flashlight over everything or, if everything is clumped and you’re in the midst of it all, crouching and uncrouchiny

[topaz python]

thats probaly a good idea

I can never do it right

with 4 people seems like every enemy is always at different stages cause of walking and crouching and stuff

[timber shoal]

i’d just say practice those strats and your stealth should start improving as a result :3

[topaz python]

indeed

Im attempting rundown 3 before I try crib in R2

[timber shoal]

r3 is pretty fun

[topaz python]

so i should get pratice

[timber shoal]

and that’s a good idea overall

if you’ve any other questions don’t hesitate to ask :3 happy to answer

[topaz python]

thank you! I will pratice some stealth and see if I improve. Also I will watch more guides

[thick stump]

also if you want, we can hop on a game and I can watch you and give hints or you also you can watch me how I will clear a room

[topaz python]

that could be dope yeah

ill reach out if I get some time

thx

[thick stump]

you are welcome and have a nice day!

[tardy ridge]

Hello new to the game is the dmr and the revolver a good combo?

[ocean spindle]

u dont have to worry much about guns rn as rundown 1 is good for experimenting
so ifit works for u and ur able to hit those headshots [as both are headshot heavy weapons] u can go for it

or try nother guns and check what u like

[timber shoal]

tbf though both dmr and revo are solid options balance wise so you should see success :33333

[tardy ridge]

Been trying the scattergun with the smg But it seems that i just can't shoot with shotguns since i like to be outside of trouble then in it

[timber shoal]

understandable

what FOV you playing on

[tardy ridge]

Normal fov, why?

[timber shoal]

i’d recommend turning it up a little at least, will help you see more and get overwhelmed less, esp with shotguns

[full stream]

They should use shotgun sentry

[thick stump]

like slendo said, the best thing to do is to try out different weapons because many weapons feel completely different, so it is better to be a little experimental because some certain missions needs specific weapons, so you have it easier, it is not 100% necessary but having a good knowledge about weapons can be very important

[full stream]

It’s good against giants until it misses strikers by shooting their dead bodies

[ocean spindle]

fish

[frail heart]

90 FOV is a good standard

[full stream]

Yes

[tardy ridge]

Aight thank you

[tardy ridge]

ah alr, thank you, yeah i started researching on the guns and just heard that the scattergun and smg is a good combo so i just picked that instead of anything else

[timber shoal]

smg is pretty meh balance wise but if you’re having fun with it keep running it

scatter is meta

[thick stump]

smg itself is not really good in any scenario, maybe someone said that because the smg just have a lot of ammo, but with barely any damage, that ammo doesn't help anyways, because sometimes it is important to kill enemies fast

[ocean spindle]

theres very litttle guns that actively make u lose, if any

smg is just aan ok gun

[tardy ridge]

Well that's probably why i kept dying in r1C1

[thick stump]

also a small hint, all HEL weapons have penetrating rounds, so 1 bullet go through enemies and does damage to them, so for R1C1 you can have a much easier time with hel weapons

[tardy ridge]

Ooooo, i'll keep that in mind thank you

[thick stump]

also, in R1C1 the defending spot is also very important because defending in front of the reactor terminal is very hard, maybe experiment and look for a better spot to defend

[tardy ridge]

I've realised that the enemies spawn two rooms before you or maybe one so me and my friend with a bot have just set up sentries in the bridge room

[ocean spindle]

probs more insidious with strat itself

rather than weaponry tbh ksks

[normal granite]

bridge room is the recommended spot

[ocean spindle]

gtfo is a game where u either win by pure skill shootin, or big kknowledge

one or the other

[full stream]

How many mines does it take to kill a mother

[tardy ridge]

I'm more knowledgable about the game mechanics and stuff like that whilst my friend is better at shootin and surviving

[full stream]

If you magically try to Kamikazi it

[ocean spindle]

careful with the spooils

[tardy ridge]

Ik about mothers and invis enemies and stuff

[ocean spindle]

damn nevemind

[full stream]

Mb

I forgot

[tardy ridge]

Sadly i spoiled myself by watching spiff

[ocean spindle]

:[

[full stream]

Can you even hit her with em?

[thick stump]

I think 7 like the tank because they 2 have the same HP, but the mother has more weakpoint multiplier, but I am not sure how mines affect that

[ocean spindle]

usuallyu no

u just dont mine moms cuz its super hard to make them hit

unlike tank

[full stream]

Doesn’t mines do just a set number of dmg

Isn’t effected by anything except boosters

[full stream]

Hence why I said magically

[ocean spindle]

mines do use weakpoint but dont tend to hit it

[full stream]

Oh ok

[normal granite]

yes

it isnt affected by distance even, so if someone stands at the very far end of it, it will still kill you lol

[full stream]

I learned that the easy way

[thick stump]

I calculated it, you need 4 mines to kill a mother

[full stream]

Only 4 damn

[thick stump]

mother and tank has 1000hp, but the tank has a 3x tumor multiplier and the mother 5x, that's because it is easier to kill a mother than the tank

[thick stump]

client can kill a mother with 2 scattergun shots

so 4 mines is kinda expensive in compare to that

[full stream]

obviously, I do it often

[full stream]

Well it’s just for fun

If you can do it then it could be fun to try to do it