gtfo-related-questions

[prime ore]

Ima try solo R4C1 with sec

surely this will work

[normal granite]

true solo or with bots?

[prime ore]

with bots ofc bruh I have 50 hours

I am not doing like 4x diff stuff yet man

[normal granite]

when r1 solo?

[prime ore]

idk if I could solo R1C1

like I have no idea how would I even deal with that

[normal granite]

c1 and d1 i still have yet to solo

[timber shoal]

you got through c2 solo? props g

[prime ore]

I am trying not to torture myself yet atleast

[timber shoal]

that ones cvcking me

[prime ore]

unless I get too bored out of this game

[normal granite]

install the medals mod and speedrun

[prime ore]

50 hours in the gmae

"yeah let this mf speedrun that is a great idea!"

[normal granite]

learning speedrun strats will help make the game easier in general for you

[timber shoal]

exactly

[uneven kiln]

hel rifle moment

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/hel-rifle-gtfo-hel-rifle-my-beloved-gif-654250960580999390

[uneven kiln]

yep thats going straight into saved gifs

[prime ore]

yeah but like I struggle still at more simpler stuff like alarms

[normal granite]

practice will continue until morale improves

[timber shoal]

if you solo it forces you to get good

[prime ore]

how would I solo it if we struggle as a quad yk

[timber shoal]

did you read what i said

playing solo forces you to get good

[thick stump]

the thing is, with solo you have to learn to deal with everything by yourself, so you gonna get much better

[timber shoal]

even if you’re losing over and over

[thick stump]

in a squad the other might carry you, so you won't learn to play better at all

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/vaas-definitionofinsanity-farcry3-insanity-gif-4899376

[timber shoal]

i have to start trying to solo r2d2 again

[normal granite]

ask sky for advice on that

[timber shoal]

mmm

i’ll just dial in

[prime ore]

not really actually I still play with people with exact same amount of hours as I do

and this game revolves around team play 24/7

so wouldnt it better to have a team to practice

team stuff

[normal granite]

if one person in the team is better, it can help cover up for other peoples fuck ups mishaps

[timber shoal]

if your team doesn’t cooperate well, yeah

but if you want to improve as a player, solo is the way to go

[thick stump]

I mean you guys are covering each others weak points, so if you play solo, you have to play so good that you don't have any weakpoints

[timber shoal]

if i had to guess i’d say over 50 of my hours were me attempting to solo r2d2

did i make any progress? fuck no lol

but it helped me build skills that i could apply to other levels

ngl i think i got that shit this time

[prime ore]

5 feeler body shots, yeahh you are right there

OKAY ACTUALLY

fuck this game so badly for designing these bots

[thick stump]

not really, I quite like them

[normal granite]

part of why i cant get my r1a1 time under 5:30 atm

[prime ore]

they LIKE

going throught doors

[normal granite]

OH I FUCKING HATE THAT

[prime ore]

hackett went throught the door twice while closing it AFTER I activated the alarm

in TWO RUNS BY NOW

AND IT KILLED BOTH OF THEM

Why do they do that

[ocean spindle]

powerful

[normal granite]

which level?

[prime ore]

R4C1

[normal granite]

ill play with ya if you want

[ocean spindle]

why r u closing doors post-activating alarm

[timber shoal]

strong independent bots

[timber shoal]

stev cant play for 2 reasons

[normal granite]

1. skill issue

[timber shoal]

he "doesnt want to be carried" and he owns a pirated version of gtfo

[prime ore]

cuz he gets stuck in it

[normal granite]

2. skill issue?

[timber shoal]

pretty much

[normal granite]

shhhh we dont judge

[ocean spindle]

activating the ala3m isnt making him unstuck ksks

[normal granite]

ala3m

[thick stump]

this is only a problem during error alarms or somewhere you have to be really fast

[ocean spindle]

ala3m

[prime ore]

I actively get racial slurs playing this game I alredy know this mate

[timber shoal]

???

[normal granite]

yeah bots absolutely suck in error alarms

all they can do is shoot and place stuff

cant even carry shit like turbines

[thick stump]

they can carry stuff, just wait, kill enemy and wait till they pick it up again and then move

[normal granite]

inconsistently carry

i have literally never gotten them to carry it for a notable amount of time

[thick stump]

I only have problem if I have to be fast, like if it is an error alarm with a big amount of enemies

[normal granite]

so when it matters

aka, the only times i would want a bot to carry an item

[prime ore]

also in

R4C1

I once found a cfoam tripmine

but after like finding it once I couldnt find it again like

[ocean spindle]

on errors no

[prime ore]

do these things have set spawn or its just random

[timber shoal]

random

[ocean spindle]

condtant alarm doesnt let them

on normal alarms for the fog turbine if u say it beftoe an alarn

theh hold it

[ocean spindle]

consumable so

cpuld or could not

r4 has a couple levels where it can cuz novelty

[thick stump]

on small errors they can, like R2C2

[prime ore]

also why cant you ping consumables btw

[safe cradle]

not entirely

[thick stump]

they drop the item when enemies are close but when they have died, they gonna pick it back up

[timber shoal]

weighed, sure

[safe cradle]

IIRC it's dependant on the datablock and it's set per zone

[timber shoal]

still random

sometimes you wont get the cfoam mine spawn i thought

they seem much more sparse than other consumables

[safe cradle]

random to the extent that some zones are never gonna get one, and some have low chance of getting one

[prime ore]

so it will never spawn in the same room as the bulkhead blood door

[safe cradle]

It's...

basically it's a chance but for some zones and some stuff it's set to 0%

[prime ore]

yeah so R4C1

there are 3 blood doors

[safe cradle]

like you are sometimes gonna get a tripmine (normal) in first zone of R1A1

[prime ore]

1 always has bulkhead key

and cuz bulk is needed for progression

[safe cradle]

But you're never gonna get a cfoam tripmine there

[prime ore]

tripmine will never spawn in that zone

[safe cradle]

no idea

I'd lie to you if I gave you a specific answer on that

[prime ore]

I am asking cuz

1st run I found a cfoam tripmine

which is prob a very hefty consumable

[safe cradle]

This is the type of stuff tgb,jish,tru would know

[prime ore]

never saw it in action

[safe cradle]

and others I assume

[prime ore]

it spawned inside the blood door

that didnt have the key

[safe cradle]

It's peculiar because IIRC it has 2 foam components, the actual blobs you see released when it detonates, and an insta-freeze invisible ray that can freeze pretty much anything (tank included, and it has radius so you can freeze mother and tank in case the two spawn or are super-close)

[prime ore]

so it is a good idea

to do an extra blood door

so you can freeze the tank

[safe cradle]

ehhhhh

Like, you're going to eventually dub on a single tank like it's a BBC

[thick stump]

but the chance to get the cfoam tripmine is low, right? and you can't list it 🤔

[safe cradle]

Therefore I wouldn't bother

[safe cradle]

consumables aren't able to be listed by terminal

so yeah, unless those zones have 100% chance of a cfoam tripmine I wouldn't bother

I wouldn't bother either tbh

[timber shoal]

stev's playing w bots rn

[thick stump]

that wasn't the question xD
I mean if there is a mission where some consumables are to 100% (excluded R7C3)

[safe cradle]

A lot... let me think

R6D3's key room has a fuckton of stuff

[thick stump]

oh yeah, I can remember that room, that's true

[safe cradle]

I'm pretty sure there's a lot of foam nades in that mission where foam nades are mentioned

same for foggies in some places like R2D1

they're always gonna be there

I assume there's some variance to how many you get but I doubt it's relevant

[thick stump]

yeah, this makes sense

[safe cradle]

It's the same for packs

(to a smaller extent)

[normal granite]

i read that as "It's the same for pricks"

[thick stump]

isn't for the packs always a set amount? but it is random if one pack have 4 uses or it is splitted in 2 packs with 2 uses each

[safe cradle]

I think I remember it being that a 2 could spawn as a 3 or a 3 as a 4 or viceversa or some rigged stuff like that

Then again I also remember the explanation of why there's no "5 use-foggies" to be some complicated math stuff with the game being jankly but I cant fucking find it

So maybe I made it all up I dont know anymore

Again #gtfo-related-questions message

Ask them because the only way I know is by remembering what was said and I cant remember zone numbers in maps where I have 30+ completions

[prime ore]

okay I cleared

75,76 AND 77

no cfoam tripmine

its not guaranteed sad

[prime ore]

okay fuck this mission

this is so awful to do sec

lost on 12

all bots and me 0% ammo no tool no nothing

bare cheecks

[timber shoal]

yummers

[prime ore]

not a yummers moment

[timber shoal]

on the 12code uplink?

what sentries you runnin

rather what tools are you running

[full stream]

Shotgun sentry

[timber shoal]

goated strategy

[full stream]

I think it’s kinda good for shadows

[timber shoal]

mmmmmm

[full stream]

Since they don’t move fast it can hit its shots

[timber shoal]

just use burst imo

[full stream]

Well Yh, but I wished shotgun sentry can do more

[timber shoal]

in its current state its ass

not any point in using it over hel auto

[prime ore]

All x1 as always

We almost always run that cuz they synergies alot

Cuz cfoam is broken as shit 2/3 situacions on a mission

[timber shoal]

cfoam on this mission (solo w bots anyway) is probably not the strat

wwith any more players, definitely

but you're gonna have issues tryna permafoam and input codes at the same time

[prime ore]

Cfoam sucked on uplink but giga popped off on class 4 and 5

With bots ofc

Cuz I dont have 2 heads to look at both the shit monitor and the door to cfoam

I got the unlucky spawn where there is a long hallway before a small door

Which obv sucked and broke on scan 2 cuz I couldn't be there to foam

[timber shoal]

hel auto placed for backshots on some of those doors can clutch up majorly

[prime ore]

Shotgun sentry buff when

[prime ore]

Wish I had 1

[timber shoal]

ghostly will get on that for his rundown

[prime ore]

Yeah if he is working alone on that mod, den of wolves will come out before he is finished w it lol

[burnt inlet]

Ghostly will ^-1 every stat istg

[tardy ingot]

[prime ore]

He better buff the fucking pistol and short rifle cux those are the most saddest things I've ever seen in this game

[burnt inlet]

Lmao Eva with the instant shotgun sentry hate

[burnt inlet]

HAR moment

[tardy ingot]

You assume shotgun sentry misses due to enemy movement. But no, its just that awful

[ocean spindle]

it misses cuz pellet count :3 fun

[prime ore]

He is always a hater Idk if I like that or not lol

[tardy ingot]

Pistol is pretty fine

[burnt inlet]

He isn’t 😭😭😭😭

He’s just straight to the point about bad weapons

Cuz they’re trash

[tardy ingot]

Its not rly hate and ya know that

[burnt inlet]

So true

[tardy ingot]

Im generally not even like that
I am pretty direct tho yes. But I try to not shittalk the subpar roster

Shotgun sentry is even worse than just subpar tho

[tardy ingot]

Spread, how it targets (head aim) and shooting dead bodies

[burnt inlet]

😭shotgun sentry almost made me lose in a lobby with sleepo in R1B1😭😭😭😭😭

[burnt inlet]

Like 5 times btw

Same match

[burnt inlet]

Me when I shoot my scatter into the head of a striker (the rest of the pellets surely will hit other strikers amirite)

[ripe hamlet]

its okay

just long kite

then you also get to uplink cancel everything

ezclap

[past mesa]

If you have enough strikers ye

Reasonable assumption

[soft crater]

Scatter wave clear frfr

[burnt inlet]

(There’s only one)

[full stream]

I wish it was

[past mesa]

Then blow that guy to the destination

[burnt inlet]

@timber shoal could you help me blow that guy?

[ripe hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

[timber shoal]

late to the party, what’s going on?

who am i blowing?

[past mesa]

That guy

[timber shoal]

oh shit

i better hop to it

[remote ember]

I hope this make sense, does the difficulty scale from R1 to R8 or from a1-e1? I've done r1a1 and r7c1 and there was a significant difficulty increase. Just curious if this is because I did a C tier or if it's because it's R7.
Thank you

[past mesa]

C teir

rundown to rundown changes but difficulty isn’t dependent on them

[remote ember]

Thanks!

[digital mural]

Difficulty is Tier dependant not rundown

[tardy ingot]

altho @remote ember try to avoid playing R8 before finishing other Rundowns. (One due to the story ending there and a lot of stuff not making sense at all otherwise and also because it does add most mechanics at once instead of gradually if you would play the rundowns in order)

[remote ember]

Hey cool videos, I watch one on how to not crouch walk 24/7.
I was planning on going in order but my second one I joined on another host who had a r7 selected.

[tiny wyvern]

If you don't know the mechanics of that has been introduced, you can ask if that happens again

Most people will try their best to tell you what's going on whilist it's all going on, and at the very least it helps you get used to things quickly

[raven copper]

go from r1d1 to r8d2 immediately

[tiny wyvern]

Aside from that, keeping yourself with the beginner group of rundowns (R1 to R3) should minimize the amount of things you have to pick up fairly quickly

[civic wave]

by any chance are you using the in game matchmaking?

[digital mural]

Surely it can't be that bad since R1D1 is easy

[civic wave]

if you are, it's generally advised against due to the fact that you can't really curate it

[remote ember]

Yea I got with a couple people who didn't speak the same language as me but luckily they were using the in game commands. So I was pretty much a bot.

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah, try to stick to discord LFG if you're new
It's the best way to learn things

[remote ember]

It was still cool though and now I'm way less of a pussy

[remote ember]

Forsure will do that next time

[raven copper]

thats what im sayin

[remote tusk]

this might be a silly question but, a friend of mine are playing R8C1 at this very moment, and we realised that a door for zone 267 is not mentioned whatsoever on the wiki, not for main mission, secondary, and overload. we were wondering if anyone knew what was in it

[frail heart]

do you mean the one at the end of the hallway where you place the microdrive down?

[remote tusk]

yes

[frail heart]

you will find out

[remote tusk]

oh no

[thick stump]

if I remember correctly, this is a zone for another missions, I think because of some lore or something, so yeah, you gonna find it out like Frosty said

[tiny wyvern]

It's the seperation door

There's at least one unopenable seperation door in each level in R8

...I wonder why?

[thick stump]

and there is also a strange security door in the tutorial, very suspicious O.o

[ripe hamlet]

super secret gtfo arg for rundown 9 trailer

surely

[grizzled patrol]

I think the one in B1 is Not connected to anything

[burnt inlet]

<@&408548765599793173>

[timid compass]

Got it, thanks king

[tardy ingot]

This isnt actually the case

[tardy ingot]

B1 is a „leftover“ zone

[safe cradle]

Do I misremember or is there a glitch with dimensions where under certain circumstances a client can get stuck inside it and not teleport back?

[fathom ice]

correct

[frail heart]

yah

[safe cradle]

Does it have anything to do with opening map/menu at a specific time?

[tardy ingot]

desync

[safe cradle]

so nothing regarding opening menus or maps?

ok

[digital mural]

Connected to my house

[ripe hamlet]

no wonder the complex is so huge

turn out it was your mom's basement

[primal perch]

is matchmaking still dead?

[frail heart]

Lfg? No not really

[primal perch]

no in game i mean

[frail heart]

not sure

[primal perch]

ok

[frail heart]

lfg is much better anyway

[ocean spindle]

not dead per se but still widely inferior

to lfg

[thick stump]

it works but you need to wait quite some time and you get randoms which are not really good people, at least here on disord you can talk to them and communicate

[primal perch]

i see

[gleaming saffron]

do bots count for the weapon-related achievements?

like the one to only use pistols/revolvers and the other only shotguns

oh, actually the one with pistols/revolvers is solo... nevermind

[digital mural]

Only the shotguns one

[thick stump]

also if you want to do the achievement with only melee, you can't use bots because they would always shoot

[gleaming saffron]

thx

[gleaming saffron]

no bots for the one with flashlights as well, yes?

[thick stump]

I think so too, I think I tried it but it hasn't work but I am not to 100% sure

[gleaming saffron]

makes sense, thx anyway

[vital compass]

are questions about mods allowed?

[ripe hamlet]

better ask in gtfo mod discord

[vital compass]

alr

[digital mural]

Yes

[normal granite]

Damn, cant link the the modding server

[gleaming saffron]

what is the fastest OR easiest D level mission you know?

[ocean spindle]

r1d1 is the easiest by far

and proobs one of the fastest too

if u know how to stealth ok

r3d1 is p speedy too and very very fuun

tho a bit harder

[digital mural]

R1D1

[tiny wyvern]

R1D1 is the straightforward 'ignore all the side zones' mission

Where if you just beeline to the end with a good team you usually win

Everything else is kinda difficult

Or just a bit too long

[ripe hamlet]

r1d1 is the easiest but r3d1 is a bit harder and faster

[fathom ice]

erm technically r1d1 is faster

[ripe hamlet]

if you know how to speedrun*

[tardy ingot]

eh, r1d1 casual fast route is <15 min

thats already pretty fast on r3d1

R7D2 is the fastest anyhow in theory

[burnt inlet]

R5D1 is quickest

To get me to shut off my pc

[sudden nexus]

I hate all these Hange 🫃 wannabe players hoarding all the medipacks ,not contributing until 3 downed trying to long kite thinking they are so cool having watched a single professor scalar 🐉 tutorial on r2e1.
Like come on, you think you free-weekend players 🤑 can handle GTFO? That's cute. Do you know how many hours I have in cod zombies 🤦 ? Like you think you're hot shit because you've played Samdown, T3-E3? Get real!
You're just a wannabe speedrunner 🧠 who couldn't even handle Heat Havoc if your life depended on it.

Nah, Hange would win 🔥 , face it, you're out of your league.

Go back to Fortnite, stop joining Rose's 🌹 lobbies thinking your hot shit, let the real Gamers (Voxy, Hange) handle this.
You're nothing but a pub-tier player pretending to hang with the big dogs. Go back to door bugging your clears.

Don't @me, git gud.
🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[tiny wyvern]

Do you just like wake everything up and just speed through the stealth sections

[tardy ingot]

Prob chech the run the strat is better seen than explained

[tiny wyvern]

kk

[full stream]

If you have a dmg booster for hel revolver, does it one shot enemies in the head like the dmr?

[tiny wyvern]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_YpsPCclnYXiLGaSlCp4efNewkwHUG-RukGpJKdQEnI/edit?gid=805761801#gid=805761801

[ocean spindle]

needs like a 13 dmg booster or so i believe

in comparisons to dmrs 3% booster

[full stream]

Oh ok so just a muted booster will work then

[full stream]

I learned how to invis shot

Like 30-50% of the time but wanna still practice it

[tiny wyvern]

You get the feel for the head eventually

30 to 50% is already pretty good

[full stream]

Yh just gotta keep practicing

[frail heart]

whaddahell is that

[tiny wyvern]

I think he just means shooting shadow heads

[digital mural]

Shoot invisible bullets

[tiny wyvern]

Silent shot

[frail heart]

if ur on high ping its like the easiest shit ever

also have to make sure you are holding down right click when you swap to ur weapon so you can shoot it faster

[thick stump]

<@&408548765599793173>

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-reaction-low-tier-god-gif-3069402631519613407

[gleaming saffron]

gamers, what is the easiest B level to solo?

[normal granite]

r1b1 by far

[thick stump]

I did the achievement on R1B1

but I did it with burst pistol and mastaba, which was really a bad idea but back then I was still clueless about the game xD

[normal granite]

was bout to ask which achievement lol

since there are 2 b tier related

[gleaming saffron]

so hel revolver and mastaba or high cal?

[thick stump]

I really recommend hel autopistol or hel revolver and high caliber,

[normal granite]

no flashlight and pistol/revolvers only

i actually did both at once

[thick stump]

because there gonna be a lot of giants and maybe scouts

[gleaming saffron]

damn

[thick stump]

with maybe scouts, I mean that you might melee kill them or with weapon, you can decide

[normal granite]

use knife, trust

[gleaming saffron]

bat*

any recomendations for tool besides an actual turret?

[burnt inlet]

Bat is like the non throw meme pick

[upper ginkgo]

idk u just run turret cause it's the easiest

[normal granite]

hel auto might be decent for solo

[gleaming saffron]

says the hammer enjoyer

hel auto instead of burst? okay

i mean, it does make sense

[normal granite]

@burnt inlet how do i get knife enjoyer role

[tardy ingot]

hel auto can if you have the tool can clutch up more if placed correctly

R1B1 has pretty straight foward and tight funnels

[burnt inlet]

I play knife

[gleaming saffron]

channels & cargo

[burnt inlet]

Git gud is how 🗣️ 🔥

[gleaming saffron]

all the way uptop in the channels list

[gleaming saffron]

you should change your role then...

[burnt inlet]

Nuh uh

[normal granite]

there we go

[timber shoal]

bat is so goated

[burnt inlet]

It’s not that bad

[timber shoal]

bat and hel auto sentry are both things that are undervalued imo

bat's amazing as a support weapon and is sort of an all rounder

[burnt inlet]

Hel auto is just like bad in terms of tool usage tho

[timber shoal]

and hel auto can fuck things up wwith the backshot multiplier

[frail heart]

call me hel auto

[timber shoal]

proof? 🥺

[burnt inlet]

Can i call you hel auto next time?

[timber shoal]

yes you may

anyway im putting the success of our r5c3 duo on the hel auto sentries

[timber shoal]

i dont believe any other tool would've helped as much

[burnt inlet]

Fake duo btw

[timber shoal]

what?

no

true duo

[burnt inlet]

Wasnt it with bots?

Oh

Rem

Mb

Dw about

It

[fathom ice]

did you have enough tool for last alarm

[timber shoal]

class 7?

yes

[fathom ice]

ye

damn

[timber shoal]

full tool for both

[fathom ice]

no i mean when did they ran out

if even

[frail heart]

funnel with sentry = free

[timber shoal]

oh they ran out as the cluster scans started

[fathom ice]

hmm

we ended up on two bursts cuz it felt like hel auto would just burn too fast

[timber shoal]

it wasnt a huge deal but it did get a little hectic toward the end

[fathom ice]

or wait no

zed forced me into foam mines

gg

[timber shoal]

they do burn it fast but they clear so much from the first waves that you end up having plenty of ammo for the last couple

[fathom ice]

ye

[timber shoal]

secondary was lowkey so fire

[prime musk]

sky you are delusional im like 99% sure you forced the foam mines

[timber shoal]

we'd never gotten that far and were expecting somee dumb shit since the rest of the level was good

nope

10c actually cooks wwith a level in r5

unheard of

[burnt inlet]

R5C2

[timber shoal]

its fnie

[fathom ice]

it was you

[frail heart]

r5c3 is not a cook

[timber shoal]

but main sucks

[burnt inlet]

R5B1 (not gen part)

[upper ginkgo]

rare r5c3 enjoyer

[prime musk]

i do not believe you

[fathom ice]

ye main sucks

[timber shoal]

guh

[civic wave]

woah a 6 letter terminal password

it's just like wordle

[timber shoal]

why are we shitting on r5c3

[prime musk]

if you are correct in that it was me i want to die

[fathom ice]

correct

[prime musk]

because the main objective sucks

[upper ginkgo]

pub trauma

[civic wave]

i have unresolved trauma relating to r5c3

[timber shoal]

i thought it wwas a lot of fun all the way through 😭

[burnt inlet]

I feel like everyone hates on levels they’ve pubbed before

[civic wave]

god's strongest knife player and getting kicked using kickmod for...

[burnt inlet]

It’s just like trauma for them

[civic wave]

accidentally shooting and waking 3 smalls and killing them all

[burnt inlet]

Being to good 🔥

[timber shoal]

this is why i only pub r1

[burnt inlet]

Yea last pub session went bad 😭

[timber shoal]

its so fine

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[prime musk]

idk i pubbed r5c3 and it was acceptable

[timber shoal]

not gonna relive that again any time soon though

[burnt inlet]

😭

Same

[prime musk]

the level is just not fun because you don't get to do anything

[upper ginkgo]

duo pub makes everything tolerable

[burnt inlet]

I’m going back to my either fake solos or just like getting squads

[upper ginkgo]

solo pub makes you a different person

[timber shoal]

i think its fun because it makes you mix melee into the alarms

[prime musk]

i solo pubbed it with someone playing ar veruta and it was acceptable

but the level just features nothing

[timber shoal]

plus the level really isnt that long

eh

[burnt inlet]

Pub R5C1 made me traumatized

[timber shoal]

melee centric level goes hard imo

but ig not for everyone

[prime musk]

it isn't a melee centric level is the issue

[upper ginkgo]

it was the hardstuck level back then

[burnt inlet]

Team how much of a throw is it to pick arbalist into tank mission?

[prime musk]

it's a let your tools do everything centric level

[burnt inlet]

I was very stuck on it ngl

[civic wave]

og r5c1...

get to extract, team kill and wipe 1s before completion granted

spend 3 weeks getting another clear

[burnt inlet]

🔥

[frail heart]

never bc you always carry

[prime musk]

r5c1 is like such a bad level i can't believe more people don't complain about it

[frail heart]

let the pubs do what pubs do

[fathom ice]

can you believe it was my last level in the game

[prime musk]

yes i can believe it actually

[fathom ice]

and yours is r7b3

[burnt inlet]

No team i was throwing

[fathom ice]

like please

[hardy grotto]

r5c1 is a classic

[frail heart]

average

[prime musk]

no my last completion in the game is 8d2 secondary sky

[hardy grotto]

fond memories of that level in og

[burnt inlet]

Sucks ass imo

[upper ginkgo]

og r5c2
barely clear thunderdome
almost die to birther in wave 6
die to final surge after 2 hours

[prime musk]

because 7b3pe is NEVER getting cleared

[hardy grotto]

when are we doing pre nerf

[fathom ice]

my bad

[upper ginkgo]

idk find 2 other people who have played og

[hardy grotto]

ray and hani

[upper ginkgo]

ok in like 4 minutes

[hardy grotto]

ok not in 4 mins

im busy today

but we could do it on like monday or smth

[upper ginkgo]

yeah that works

[hardy grotto]

ill have to find the files

ive got a link stashed somewhere im sure

[frail heart]

the us government was tryna do that or smth

[hardy grotto]

yeah i wonder how thats going

[civic wave]

group chat pinned has release r5 link

[upper ginkgo]

realkhepri...

[hardy grotto]

yeah im pretty sure i stashed them all in that group chat

i recently removed all the old versions off my pc for space

[frail heart]

thats crazy i was just talking about that

[civic wave]

understandable

i had to wipe all my bg3 saves from my boot drive because they were taking up 15gb/110gb

[frail heart]

2 petabyte ssd

[upper ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/4aaP12snDe0

[civic wave]

this is not enough for the gtfo community hate-fiction i'm writing

[frail heart]

true

when is the fanfic tho

[civic wave]

shit where's the funny pitski screenshot

[frail heart]

pitski top 10 things of all time

[civic wave]

the zone layout felt cooler in og with less space between the 2 hub zones but that turned it into more of a respawn slogfest

hub to hub communication

[frail heart]

also uplinks didnt have team scans back then right

[upper ginkgo]

umm guys did anyone block the respawn room??

yep

they added them mid r5 because of this :D

[civic wave]

i can't remember when the team scan was added

well there you go, vozy knows

[upper ginkgo]

launch r5a1 was funny

[civic wave]

every room

respawn

[upper ginkgo]

with decently high density

[civic wave]

god old enemy density was something

sometimes it was alright

sometimes there was literally nothing

sometimes most rooms were sparse but then 1 or 2 were some kinda fucked up nest

it inspired so much more feeling

[upper ginkgo]

new people now will never experience the joy of a rundown shadow dropping and then trying to clear it in less than a day

[hardy grotto]

r8 was crazy

you'd clear the whole way up to like

a2 and get stuck

cause you dont know how to access secondary

and then you just skip it and do the rest

[civic wave]

and you do b4 and don't get the sec clear

[hardy grotto]

yep

[prime musk]

how long did it take for people to figure out a2 secondary

was it datamining that figured it out

[hardy grotto]

mmm

i honestly dont remember

[sturdy glen]

Real ones did b4 sec and class 9 d2

[hardy grotto]

we did class 9

idr if i did b4 sec then cause we heard it was bugged

so we just didnt bother

[prime musk]

i did in fact do class 9 on my secondary clear

[upper ginkgo]

a2 secondary was discovered in like less than 48 hours I feel like

[hardy grotto]

but i cleared plenty of pre nerf b4 sec anyways so i didnt miss out

[frail heart]

i didnt do r8b4 sec cause i was too scared to lmao

[prime musk]

the pub

[sturdy glen]

I think we wiped the most on that level ngl

[upper ginkgo]

no one was sawed off pilled back then LMAO

[prime musk]

"hel revo is best main weapon"

[sturdy glen]

Hel shotgun cleared

[fathom ice]

those who know

[sturdy glen]

Hel shotgun hel rifle dead in a ditch

[tardy ingot]

people did check out stuff quite quickly ya (cough free cam pictures being sent at the time)
Was fun seeing people figuring it out tho from an outside perspective

[upper ginkgo]

the code stuff was pretty well telegraphed

finding the terminal was another thing tho

[tardy ingot]

the code stuff at the time took what... 3 or 5 minutes to show up on the term

idk if that was well telegraphed

especially cuz not all people played main only B2

[frail heart]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-gif-3397568161154480277

[tardy ingot]

the funniest shit

was people actually being mad

about "only 6 levels"

[upper ginkgo]

after playing r8e1

"damn that's it"

[tardy ingot]

man R8E1 sec rly shouldve made the level go nightmare mode

spawn tanks during ending fight

(early)

spawn snatchers

spawn whatever

[ocean spindle]

spawn hackett

[tiny wyvern]

Honestly?
I wish there were just more flyers EVERYWHERE after you did it

[dawn harbor]

does anyone know the charge needed to stagger a giant with the bat

[timber shoal]

i can test in a little bit if you don’t get a response

breaking a limb is a guaranteed heavy stagger and a charged hit is always a light stagger

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t bat light attack always a stagger?

[dawn harbor]

not on a giant

[burnt inlet]

Ik you can kill giants via full charging

Like pretty easily

[dawn harbor]

ik hybrids are half charge for stagger

[burnt inlet]

I think you can light stagger into full charge on giants

[civic wave]

full charge should stagger giant

stagger hp 40, bat deals 15 stagger damage on a light attack and 84 on a full charge

in fact giants have the same stagger hp as hybrids

[burnt inlet]

1/4 charge should stagger giant then? (No clue if my maths is correct)

[tardy ingot]

Dmg isnt linear

so idk about that

[burnt inlet]

40/84 isn’t 1/2

Well it might actually be 1/8 now that i think about it

[tardy ingot]

im not sure how the stagger multi is on bat scaling wise

[burnt inlet]

But i am also not in maths brain rn

[tardy ingot]

anyway

you realistically just full charge or close to it

Idk why you wouldnt

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[dawn harbor]

r7c3 cuz im not confident with anything other than knife and bat

[burnt inlet]

I love the quick charge

[[R7C3]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R7C3

[burnt inlet]

Yea seems like bat isn’t a trash pick here

[quaint basin]

What is the hardest rundown

[digital mural]

Rundown 8

[ocean spindle]

overall r5, hardest missions r8

[digital mural]

And hardest level is R8E2

[digital mural]

R5 is only hard because most of the levels are just

Shit

[frail heart]

Silence chair

[worn crow]

I was completely dumbfounded when I pinged it since I listed the Terminals in that zone (since that’s the main objective). Fun times

[swift agate]

anyone down for gtfo

[timber shoal]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[burnt inlet]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[timber shoal]

i’m gonna touch you inappropriately

[burnt inlet]

.t thank you

[uneven gulch]

https://i.imgur.com/kLYKDSO.gifv

[topaz anvil]

Interesting

[finite oracle]

what would be the most optimal d tier to do the unbroken doors achievement

[fathom ice]

r1d1

[finite oracle]

ok

[tardy ingot]

No doors to break if you dont deviate

[normal granite]

no doors to break if you dont have a skill issue smh

[ocean spindle]

:[

[grizzled patrol]

R8D1 since with it you can complete 3 other achivements

[finite oracle]

the 3 i have left is biotracker r8d1 and no doors broken

[remote ember]

Is there a good tier list for wepons?

[upper ginkgo]

.t tierlist

[thick stump]

MAIN
Oppressive: Sawed-Off
Best-in-slot: HEL Shotgun / HEL Revo
Second-choice: Carbine / DMR / HEL Autopistol
Niche or Mediocre: DTR / PDW / Pistol / Slug Shotgun / Burst Rifle
Bad: Machine Pistol / Burst Pistol / Rifle
Excessively Bad: SMG / Heavy SMG / Bullpup
No Redeeming Qualities: Assault Rifle

SPECIAL
Oppressive: Scattergun
Best-in-slot: HEL Gun / HEL Rifle / Burst Cannon
Second-choice: Combat Shotgun / High-Cal / Shotgun
Niche or Mediocre: Revo / Sniper / Precision Rifle / Choke Mod
Bad: Short Rifle / Veruta
Excessively Bad: Arbalist / HAR

credits to Rayalot

[remote ember]

Thanks

[low radish]

WHO'S SLANDERING VERUTA

😡

My baby

[remote ember]

how do I ping the floor?

[gleaming saffron]

it's a mod

you can only ping items and doors

[remote ember]

damn

[digital mural]

Ping everywhere mod

(bad mod)

[burnt inlet]

every mod is a bad mod if you use it badly

[full stream]

You can use it to annoy teammates

[west raven]

how does querrying doors work

[digital mural]

why do you want to query a door

[west raven]

answer the question

[digital mural]

query security_door_xxx?

[west raven]

in this case the door is to zone 50 and later 51

no i mean

what is the output

is the first one going into it and the second one going out of it?

must be right

[digital mural]

oh i see what you mean now

yeah the first zone is the zone the door directly leads to
the 2nd zone is the next zone it leads to

[west raven]

whuh

bro i'm talking about the last 2 lines

this is the same door

[digital mural]

idk then

[west raven]

i think it's going into the door and then out of the door

[digital mural]

but why would you need to query a door

[west raven]

i wonder if the output changes depending on where you sit

because it's fun and hackerman

[digital mural]

you can get the same information by just looking at the door

[west raven]

yeah but what if the door is surrounded

by 30000 tanks

[digital mural]

kill the tanks

[west raven]

no

[digital mural]

jk

[west raven]

it's just fun for me

i like using terminals

i wanted to learn them better now that the GTFO game is very relevant and everyone is playing it

[digital mural]

is it?

[west raven]

of course

hm no it doesn't change

[ocean spindle]

maybe last 2 lnies is backwards

cuz is enters zone 50, but if u go backwards it enter 49

[west raven]

yeah thats probs it

[ocean spindle]

whichmission is it?

[west raven]

1a1

just testing it out

[ocean spindle]

oh ddefo is like that

ccuz 52 is behind 49

and 50 and 51 are north

yes so main 2 are aahead, other 2 behindd

[west raven]

can start light_testing.exe ever be useful

i'm imagining a hypothetical where you're fighting shadows but the map is lit up very heavily so it becomes hard to see them with flashlights

[ocean spindle]

for shadows on light :D
but admittedly thatsniche

cuz u dont find many where shadows r the main enemy for it b worth it

maybs r6d3?

[west raven]

another thing is that lights can come back on

if it's scripted for them to turn off and on for eg

[ocean spindle]

true

[west raven]

so it's not permanent depending on mission

i like these niche

potential strategies

[ocean spindle]

activates flyer error mid surge

🔥

[west raven]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-cooking-gif-13708524

[digital mural]

Hmmmmmmmm

Meatballs

Yummy

[west raven]

if you activate the errors

do they take up the enemy cap

could i spam fried chicken to prevent alarms from existing

[west raven]

potentially playing hackerman in the corner with a terminal will allow you to map out the whole level

without risk

what's a complicated level in gtfo

[digital mural]

R8E2

R4E1

[full stream]

R4c3

[digital mural]

R2E1

R4D1

[full stream]

You can mis input the bulkhead key

[burnt inlet]

Where’s my R8A2 sec😭

[west raven]

i wanna see if i can go in and just figure out a pathway by playing tetris

[full stream]

Isn’t it better to do it solo?

[digital mural]

You already can by just looking at the objective and querying it

[west raven]

no i mean

knowing the individual zones to get there

[digital mural]

You pretty much already can by looking at the doors and querying the objective

Or listing

Actually it depends

[full stream]

He could probably do r7d2 it’s a straight line

[west raven]

i wish there was mnore strategy in this game if that makes sense

[digital mural]

Honestly, same

[burnt inlet]

I meant more that it’s complicated

[full stream]

Oh mb

[burnt inlet]

Also i doubt it would be easier to solo

[uneven kiln]

yes, then combine with doorbug and every level is super free

I did it exactly once as a proof of concept

now I always run NoCrankNoStart and NoDoorCheese

🕴️

above all else NoCrankNoStart prevents DOW terminal bombing so

[ocean spindle]

i need a nooladderfoam

cuz the amount of people ladderfoaming r1c2 is STUPIDDDDD

ITTS R1C22222

[sturdy glen]

pretty sure that exists

[ocean spindle]

i needs

[sturdy glen]

https://thunderstore.io/c/gtfo/p/Dinorush/LadderFoamFix/

[sharp forge]

I use GeForce Now to play games, but I've never been able to copy and paste my ID to host games and ask for help, because when I try to copy it, the GeForce clipboard and my PC clipboard don't sync, which leaves me without my room ID.

Is there any way to find out or see my own ID without having to copy and paste it from the game?

[digital mural]

@ocean spindle

[ocean spindle]

yeh, u can click the button, open steam with tab and shift, open notes, paste th code there [works cuz u dont lave geforce] and then coopy it maanually to ur message

is a bit of a long process but works

[sharp forge]

You have no idea how relieved and happy I am to hear this. For the first time, I'll be able to play with other people! No more matchmaking system!

[ocean spindle]

yeh :3 gaming, lfg times

🔥

i was happy when i discovered it too ksks

[digital mural]

Slendo coming to the rescue

[west raven]

i might do that honestly

[uneven kiln]

Funny to do once I guess, but it kinda just becomes a “walk to the end” simulator

That command is largely how we know big shooters also as chickens

DOW terminal bombing on top is what made me run nocranknostart

Grief your team by queueing that command on reactor terminal on a tight code hunt, no thanks

[full stream]

Where are they even c-foaming ladder in r1c2

[wraith wedge]

Hey does anyone know a fix for missing dauda voicelines?

[tiny wyvern]

amor does chatters fix it

Or does it just makes it worse

[winter breach]

easy cheese

[grizzled patrol]

by threatening the VA to record the rest of them

[wraith wedge]

:dorby:

I see

Is there a way to add custom lines in easily?

[mellow oriole]

Random question about reactors. How does the frequency of spawning function? Will a horde always spawn up to the last couple seconds of the sequence?

I.e the timer is about to finish and ~20-25strikers are spawned somewhere.

[frail heart]

Reactors have set spawns that always spawn at the same time if not capped out

[mellow oriole]

Gotcha. Was trying to figure out if delaying enemy kills ended up with overall less spawns.

[frail heart]

Nope, you will just end up killing the same enemies later

[mellow oriole]

My group has been running R2D2 and almost cleared it on our 3rd night of running it. Just ran out of resources on the extraction and wiped.

Trying to make sure we understood how the reactors worked. 👍

[frail heart]

All good

Good luck on your runs

[mellow oriole]

Thanks

[mellow oriole]

If they are capped out will that cause spawns to happen after the countdown and cause some of the really late stragglers?

[frail heart]

Those enemies will just spawn when they have enough room to spawn

So yeah you will have some late enemies/waves coming in

[wraith wedge]

Speaking of reactor, r5d1
Didn't beat it tonight but we'll give it a go another night

We finished main, walked into secondary and was like

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-oh-green-goblin-no-way-home-gif-24172438

[swift agate]

How can you clear motion doors with bots?

[fathom ice]

mines

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/motion-detector-radar-overmen-gif-17880174765325142093

[safe cradle]

Beeg zone with the meme door and 98-99 sec doors

[grizzled patrol]

A moving door? Take schizo pills and they will stand still

[safe cradle]

I'd call it exhagerated but the last 2-3 R1C2 I had someone wanted to foam the ladder

Fun is that they still place sentry below which kills shit and makes it useless

[full stream]

do they just not open the zone and just do the 2 scans?

[safe cradle]

They always bunch up on ladder if they come from spawn direction

[grizzled patrol]

Doing both Doors is based. But needing to foam it is Just sad

[safe cradle]

I dont know the chances and I'm too lazy to check with that tool tru made to see spawn chances

but I think it's more often common there (after all, there's 2 rooms that way and only one in the direction of 98 and 99).

[thick stump]

I always try to convince people not to do it and most of the time they listened to me, so not a problem for me

[safe cradle]

I really dont care because it's such an easy map and they fuck up the ladder foam anyway

[thick stump]

that's true xD

it's funny to see how they foam the whole ladder

[full stream]

oh ok, didnt really think of that

[safe cradle]

best course, assuming they skip the early zone with PDs, is doing both alarms, only open whichever has key, then doing key door alarm, the opening the remaining one, but it'd take me longer to explain to them rather than just "yeah let's do the alarm and get the key"

[grizzled patrol]

If i See people Bring Foam in R2E1 i Just pray that they dont know about the strat. I am done arguing with pubbies on how Hel Auto is good only for stagger

[safe cradle]

<@&408548765599793173>

[grizzled patrol]

<@&408548765599793173> Take His Lunch money

[safe cradle]

Usually I just quit, if they do it right they dont need my help anyway, you can ladderfoam with bots and be fine, if they dont they're wasting one tool slot for nothing

[thick stump]

I don't think they gonna win R2E1 if they have to cfoam the ladder there, because the other surge alarms gonna kill them

[safe cradle]

It's a lose-lose scenario because ladderfoam done well is basically doorbugging with a timer

[safe cradle]

no?

You can basically skip the surge waves because error gets capped either there or at the ladder just outside the first surge in the error zone

I think a team competent enough can just ladderfoam 1 ladder, but you can foam ladder number 2 to forget about the hardest part of the level

[tardy ingot]

the thing is the execution and forcing of the ladderfoam aswell

You can technically ladder foam every surge but the 1st one (with the 2nd being a 50/50 based on the zone you get cell in)

comptetent ladderfoaming just deletes 3+ surges and the error

but also… if you are that knowledgable about it you are likely able to sentry it anyhow easily

[thick stump]

I only ladderfoamed that one surge alarm in the fog and then killed all the enemies, I haven't known that you could do so much more with that O.o

[tardy ingot]

check the old speedrun if you wanna see it

but also

Its ladderfoam so

[vernal gale]

how many people who play ts game are college students? cant find anyone at my school who plays

i found like 1 dude who played and he says it's too hard 😭

[tardy ingot]

anyone who says this simply hasnt tried actually learning about the game

Is it hard? yes
Is it actually THAT hard? no, not at all. Its just that people dont learn anything and struggle without adapting at all

(its very unforgiving and has a steep learning curve)

[vernal gale]

my guess is that most other college students would rather just play games for fun than play games as a challenge

[hazy wedge]

I learned how to play gtfo and the conclusion is I have a skill issue 💔

[frail heart]

yes

[burnt inlet]

i am a college student, just other side of the world ;3

[timber shoal]

me :3

are you american?

[abstract wedge]

My partner and I play. Trying to get more people in the friend group into it

[vernal gale]

yea i am, I do play games with people in the UK though

[vernal gale]

do you live in australia?

[burnt inlet]

eu

[timber shoal]

am american myself :3

you’re a new player correct?

[vernal gale]

what i wanna know is how people who are in school make the time to get good at this game because it seems like every time I start to make progress with my group we all have other commitments

[vernal gale]

150 hours im not that good though

[timber shoal]

oh alright

[tardy ingot]

uuh, dont you typically have way more time during school than not?

[tardy ingot]

150 hours is at the high end of "beginner"

[vernal gale]

lol

[tardy ingot]

and if you didnt deep dive into this communities knowledge (via guides or this discord) then you are likely to be fine for that time spend

gtfo is just very knowledge based in the end

[vernal gale]

working full time at retail i had more free time than at school maybe its skill issue

[tardy ingot]

huh

well

[vernal gale]

i really want to beat rundown 8, the problem is that my group is stuck on r8d2 and we are all available at the same time maybe once every two weeks. do people in this discord regularly play hard levels like that one?

[timber shoal]

yeah i’d lfg for levels like that

should be able to find interest methinks

[thick stump]

they are people who are trying to do it but some of them are not that good and are trying to brute force it, but most of the time you will a good team

[vernal gale]

i will try to LFG later then, i have not done that before. the in game matchmaking does not seem to work.

[ocean spindle]

ingame mm is bad

yes

[vernal gale]

i was waiting in that for almost ten minutes before i gave up and got on satisfactory

[prime musk]

for a difficult level like 8d2 you're probably going to have to wait a bit even in the discord, but you'll get a committed team for it likely

[vernal gale]

r8 is my favorite rundown so far because of the story elements and the nightmare creatures, and the second half of it seems way harder than the first. we beat r8e1 on our first attempt which was confusing since e tiers are supposed to be hard.

[tardy ingot]

R8E1 is a C tier ya

[vernal gale]

is the hardest level of GTFO an e tier?

[tardy ingot]

i assume you skipped to R8 ?

the top 5 are basically just the 5 actual E tiers

[vernal gale]

weve played about half of all of the other rundowns

[tardy ingot]

oh boy...

R8 is great, but its so massively recommended to NOT go into it before clearing as much as you physically can

(for story vibes, progression and difficulty of the 2nd half)

[thick stump]

R6 is a really great rundown, if you don't have so much time doing other rundowns, you can try that one

[vernal gale]

r2, r4, and r6 all seemed very fun to me

havent beat any of them though so i guess i will try to fully complete on of them first

[timber shoal]

where are you in those rundowns

[vernal gale]

i believe around d tier

[burnt inlet]

R6D1 speedruns 🤤

[vernal gale]

r8d1 was my favorite level so far

[thick stump]

it is the only level || with corrupted scans || so don't think you gonna see them later in R8

[ocean spindle]

||wrong?||

||misinfo my beloved||

[ripe hamlet]

e2 has it also

[vernal gale]

i thought environmental hazards like that were really cool

[thick stump]

really? did I misremember something 🤔

[ocean spindle]

||and a2||

[thick stump]

ohh, I haven't played that yet, just had a sneak peak

[thick stump]

I have done secondary, so I don't really remember this

[ocean spindle]

[[R8A2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R8A2

[vernal gale]

a2 secondary seemed awfully hard for an a tier

[thick stump]

R8 is special, the second half of R8 is harder than the difficulty says

[thick stump]

this environment is also in many other missions, not only R8

[vernal gale]

is any level in the second half of rundown 8 doable by yourself? i had moderate success trying this in earlier rundowns but i dont think it will work here

[ocean spindle]

i mean theres lik 2 levels that havent been soloed in the whole game

[grizzled patrol]

True solo No Bots? Hard but doable

[ripe hamlet]

e2

[vernal gale]

i usually turn bots off because they just shoot me sometimes

[sudden nexus]

e2

[tardy ingot]

without bots? kinda yea, tho absolutely not recommended
R8E2 has only been done with boosters and seeded (but still extremely impressive)

with bots? way more doable

[vernal gale]

in r8c2 i got double pumped by bishop bot and it ended the run

[tardy ingot]

just... dont give bots shotguns?

[grizzled patrol]

Join our lobbies, you will be shot. (Maybe) Accidentally

[tardy ingot]

they dont use them well anyhow

[thick stump]

you need to know how to play with them, because they can tank hits for you, shoot a little and also use the bio tracker better than any human, but yeah, they sometimes screw you

[vernal gale]

i will try e2 by myself if i ever beat d2

it sounds hard though

[tardy ingot]

just dont ngl

well maybe if you are 1000

hours in

or more

[thick stump]

the last part is kinda hard because you have to carry an object to the extraction point and doing it without bots is super hard (I mean R8D2)

[tardy ingot]

and with bots (and full knowledge) its genuinely not even there

(difficulty wise)

[vernal gale]

oh i hate those type of levels where you have to carry something the whole time

[ocean spindle]

not quite

but u will see

[thick stump]

I like those, because it shows how much you have to play with your team

[vernal gale]

my team always forgets to grab the data sphere or whatever

does anyone TAS this game

[burnt inlet]

almost impossible to

[vernal gale]

how so

ive only ever tried hollow knight TAS

[burnt inlet]

rng

[little pilot]

game is inconsistent

[tardy ingot]

@little pilot surely you just find a goated tutorial seed, set it and then TAS it

just gamba tool

(well i say gamba, but its set)

[little pilot]

the only level u can get a TAS of is tutorial cause it is the only solo level. But even there the RNG is insane since the inputs on door pulls need to be done before they actually appear on screen.

[vernal gale]

ig that makes sense, even in normal speedruns in hollow knight RNG was a huge problem in absolute radiance

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[burnt inlet]

ok so bub imagine pulling alarms and having a TAS shoot 😭

[tardy ingot]

hollow knight rng is mostly boss move set decisions

[burnt inlet]

would miss all shots

[vernal gale]

💀

[little pilot]

and tutorial has also another very fun problem: the TAS is absolutely identical to the glitched run just done perfect

which is boring

[tardy ingot]

gtfo rng is spawn positions of:

• keys
• cells
• (any other heavy item that spawns in world)
• res
• consumables
• enemies spawn point
• enemy spawn type
• wave spawn point
• each uniques enemy move/attack decisions
• scan position rng

actually tgb

[prime ore]

Give bots shotgun sentries that will surely work

[tardy ingot]

if we ever figure out

how you can glitch through stuff at near 0 frames

[prime ore]

Sometimes rng saved our asses in some runs

[tardy ingot]

then tas could force it

the run would just LOOK like dogshit

[vernal gale]

i never give bots any kind of high damage weapon anymore

[prime ore]

Idk if I like that or hate that

[tardy ingot]

but it would go crazy hard

[vernal gale]

are you all speedrunners of GTFO

[little pilot]

the only TAS runs that would be even mildly interesting would be glitchless TAS of extremely difficult/long runs such as e2 but good luck making a TAS of glitchless runs because each client state is simulated locally

which means u literally need to build an entire separate game version to even allow making a TAS

[tardy ingot]

I am
tgb is too (same team)

moth has speedran before but only here and there

[timber shoal]

only a little

[hoary mason]

not rly.
libTAS + tools for rng manip exist

[tardy ingot]

tbf if you do TAS you are gonna do glitched id assume

the out of bounds would be so funny tgb

just full sending with blackhops

[vernal gale]

i think i would want to get better at this game normally before i start exploiting speedrun strats

[tardy ingot]

theres 2 levels to it

speedruns arent necessarily crazy

[timber shoal]

oh we don’t use exploits

[tardy ingot]

well, soso

[timber shoal]

well

[little pilot]

the glitched route would be giga boring aside from 1 portion where u just see the gun move up and down for 2 minutes

all done blind

[tardy ingot]

if you ever wanna check out the idea of going faster while not going for full send type speed. Check the mod called "Medal Mod" out on thunderstore/R2modman

[prime ore]

TAS R1A1 trying to best it under like 3 minutes

[tardy ingot]

depends on if we ever find out how you can clip through stuff at near 0 fps

which is a big if

[little pilot]

record is already 2:36

[prime ore]

Damn wtf

[ripe hamlet]

which would be the coolest lvl to TAS

[tardy ingot]

glitchless or glitched?

current knowledge or hypothetically doable?

[little pilot]

R1A1 glitchless TAS would probably be 1s faster than probably glitchless set seed r1a1

[prime ore]

R6D1 or R8E2

Prob

[tardy ingot]

eh id say 3 seconds even

[ripe hamlet]

tas lvl with reactor is kinda timegated

[tardy ingot]

you perfect pull all ranges and absolutely can abuse scans

[ripe hamlet]

glitchless preferrably

glitch tas is too crazy

[vernal gale]

is R6D1 really hard?

[little pilot]

brother i mean if we actually do a run of seeded

[tardy ingot]

glitchless not much ngl

its just most current strats in speedruns then @ripe hamlet

[little pilot]

not spend 3minutes in total on 1 single run

[prime ore]

Not really but it's a really fucking cool mission

[vernal gale]

its on my bucket list now

[little pilot]

keep in mind the player rng in r1a1 is genuienly lower than training

[ripe hamlet]

theres no some theoretically doable strats thats just humanly impossible?

😔

[tardy ingot]

R6D1 lets you skip 80% of the level (intended from the devs as the short cut)

[little pilot]

u need to get like 3 correct scan runoffs and 4 pulls

[tardy ingot]

most of them are moved to glitched

[ripe hamlet]

ic

what about glitched tas then

[vernal gale]

when yall say pulls do you mean pulling all the enemies from a room

[little pilot]

in my case I meant door pulls/box opens/picking up items

the idea is every one of these player actions has RNG since the prompt can be very funny

and u need to actually get the correct frame pull

[tardy ingot]

realistic: R8E2 OOB would be insane but the level is also standing on scans for like 15 minutes or smth like that

if we go into theoretical where you can glitch through surfaces at near 0 fps

then duo r6d1 can technically be cleared in like... 2 minutes

[prime ore]

Damn really

[tardy ingot]

reactor skip

[prime ore]

When I get to R6 we ain't gon skip 100%

[tardy ingot]

nah you should 100% go for a reactor skip run at some point @prime ore (just do the first clear the normal way)

[little pilot]

first clear don't skip obv, but it is a nice way to play the level after getting the first clear

[prime ore]

Btw didn't even knew that mission was reactor

Is like every D1 or C1 a reactor