gtfo-related-questions

[uneven kiln]

but usually, they do not

Scouts have a significant spawn weight against the population density of a zone

in rare instances as well, with boss class enemies, they use something called an Align in some cases, always spawning in the same location with every attempt whereas other stuff in their zones is randomized

occasionally you can have clusters of enemies really close, but the game will try to spawn stuff not too close to other game objects or other sleepers if possible to avoid unfair situations with enemies on top of each other (rare exceptions exist)

that's a pretty basic synopsis of how it works without getting too technical

[timber shoal]

tank is hiding inside of tank

[uneven kiln]

Pmom hiding inside of Pmom

(it was patched)

[timber shoal]

WHAT

i was joking lmao

[uneven kiln]

it was a completely real bug with the spawn settings

[timber shoal]

leave it to 10 c to pull that shit

[burnt inlet]

:3 silly

[uneven kiln]

there's pretty much an exception to each of those spawning principles still in the game

and this is because there are certain triggers that spawn enemies when you open a door or run a command instead of when you drop into the level

so if a random hibernate (sleeping enemy) was already there you will in fact get enemies directly on top of each other in these cases

The PMom inside of PMom was different than these though, it was a bugged spawning on level drop to spawn 2 on the same Align rather than 1

[full stream]

Ohhh thank you bc I see like the old maps for the original run downs where they are shown but not the new ones

[tardy ingot]

Just google smth like „gtfo rundown 3 maps“

Theres steam guides for them all basically with og and alt maps

[full stream]

Ok I see the ones posted on steam it just seems there just not updated with details for the zones that’s all I’m just hoping there in the same zones

[obsidian talon]

For an example that I somewhat know is zone 50 in R1A1. Blue is scout, red is striker, and yellow is shooter

[burnt inlet]

Scout can be further down on left room?

Or is that just what rooms?

Also I swear I’ve seen diff placement for these

[timber shoal]

the rooms can be more randomized than that

[burnt inlet]

Yea that’s what I’m sayin

[timber shoal]

scouts can be in a host of other locations

and the regular sleeper spawns can be much more variable than just those spots

[burnt inlet]

Yea I’ve seen even first room have like 10 other combinations

Brock remember everything in this game is essentially rng

[obsidian talon]

I know, I was just wondering the values of the enemies when they are being placed and the limits for the zones.

[burnt inlet]

It really depends on the zone, the modding server might have the datablocks for every level so they might be able to say exact amount of rng

[tardy ingot]

Regarding the point distribution thats in logs (and likely in datablocks lol)

[prime musk]

im not sure about how stuff is weighted during the spawning in process for sleeping enemies, but awake, enemies can only be worth 0.75, 1, or 2 spawncap out of total 25.

this includes enemies that were sleeping beforehand

giants sleeping before are afaik always worth 2 spawncap when awoken

[uneven kiln]

So the moment something wakes up it contributes to spawncap

[safe cradle]

isn't there also that mechanic Rayalot talked about a group of smalls being promoted to a giant?

which is why you can get a giant asleep in R1C1

[fathom ice]

PROMOTION

[safe cradle]

Yes I think the word used was promotion

#gtfo-related-questions message

[fathom ice]

don't get me wrong it's correct

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/thogdad-that-tastes-like-promotion-thogden-promotion-football-gif-27404840

[heady dagger]

I had 3 giants asleep near each other in R1B1

[uneven kiln]

R1B1 has a couple of zones almost exclusively populated by giants

[thick stump]

most of the time it is an even number, this means somewhere there was a 4th one

[heady dagger]

I don’t know, we had one enemy wake up when it shouldn’t have and got mauled

We ran out of ammo

[sick mauve]

sometimes. not always. don’t self-define laws around how the game works bc it’s not consistent

[dense scarab]

r2c2, which zone is easier, 119 or 116?

[prime musk]

119

[ripe hamlet]

which one is the worst

is it 118?

[fathom ice]

the big one

the cell one

[ripe hamlet]

116 i guess

[prime musk]

ye that's 116 that's cell zone

[tardy ingot]

fuck 116

who thought

that a zone

• should need a cell to open
• has a blood door as sec door to go in
• has a ton of enemies inside
• is gigantic compared to every other zone
• and is halfway in fog, with the term in fog

is a good balanced choices compared to 118 and 119 lol

obviously its not actually a major spike

but its so much less fun

[prime musk]

you forgot the part where the blood door also has a teamscan after you plug cell

[fathom ice]

@keen seal

[burnt inlet]

What’s the timing for killing cscout with hel gun? (Host)

[fathom ice]

there is no timing

[burnt inlet]

No but like

[fathom ice]

cscout staggers for .25 to .5

[burnt inlet]

What’s the window

[fathom ice]

ur hel gun is .2

figure it out

[burnt inlet]

Gaming

[fathom ice]

lowest window is .05, highest is .35 i think

[burnt inlet]

Wouldnt it be 0.3 as highest?

[fathom ice]

no

[burnt inlet]

Or is there a like ”charge up” time for scouts to activate?

[fathom ice]

moth

if you hit perfect timing u spend .2 to kill a cscout

[burnt inlet]

0.5-0.2 =0,3

[fathom ice]

okay i'm stupid

[burnt inlet]

So you have 0.3 to dilly dally

[fathom ice]

no

you potentially have .3

[burnt inlet]

Potential of 0.3 to dilly dally

[fathom ice]

yes

[timber shoal]

huzzah!

[burnt inlet]

Dodo is gonna have to lock in on that timing😭

[fathom ice]

why

[timber shoal]

playin r5d1 solo w bots

[burnt inlet]

Hel Gun into R5D1

[timber shoal]

first time

[burnt inlet]

With bots

[fathom ice]

u can just

sawed off

??

[timber shoal]

carbine :3

[fathom ice]

i get it

[burnt inlet]

😭😭😭

[fathom ice]

u can BRING FOAM

[timber shoal]

why would i do that

[fathom ice]

to kill a scout and not gamble

or you play sawed off

[burnt inlet]

God i love dodo rn

[fathom ice]

or you play hel rifle

[burnt inlet]

Or gamba

[timber shoal]

:3

if i knew there were many cscouts my loadout wouldve been slightly different

[burnt inlet]

Idek how many there are

[timber shoal]

no spoils

[fathom ice]

main has ONE

[burnt inlet]

Fire spoiler

[fathom ice]

and sec has a bunch

[timber shoal]

its so fine

[burnt inlet]

Surely

[fathom ice]

byeah just play sawed off prob

it's better

[burnt inlet]

Nah dodo chad

[civic wave]

at least it's not carbine hel rifle

pub loadout

[frail heart]

burst cannon users 🥀

[burnt inlet]

Dodo has 0 bio btw

[sudden nexus]

how the game was ment to be played 💪

[smoky nacelle]

i just played my first game and already got a bug where e didnt work on anything anymore 😭

is this common? read a post about it from 2 years ago which doesnt give me much hope

[timber shoal]

quite common i believe, interact bugs happen quite a bit

[smoky nacelle]

any way to fix it in-game? feels like quite the liability to no longer open doors, climb ladders, grab loot, etc

i read that rejoining the lobby fixes it, but i dont know how. i just left the last one, is there an option to rejoin it?

[timber shoal]

were you playing with a team or no

bc if you weren’t and you left it’d just quits the mission

[smoky nacelle]

i was with a team yes

[ocean spindle]

if u were on LFG [which u shoould as ingame mm is bad] yes

[timber shoal]

should be able to join back then

[ocean spindle]

gtfo lets u rejoin via normal steam

or by the code

[timber shoal]

or discord methinks

also hi slendo :3

[ocean spindle]

which van be found on the lobby before u droop in, or pressing esc mmid game

[ocean spindle]

hi :3

pat

[smoky nacelle]

ty lad

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[ocean spindle]

if u encouter anything else u can ask

:3

[smoky nacelle]

i shall

[timber shoal]

nice pronouns btw

relatable

[smoky nacelle]

lmao thank you

i take pride in it

[timber shoal]

based and real

[sudden nexus]

pride? not in this server

[timber shoal]

surely not

[sudden nexus]

[ocean spindle]

only mexican pride today

🇲🇽

[vestal crest]

Are corrupted and external uplinks the same thing? Wiki refers to both but the uplink page only describes external (no mention of corrupted)

[ocean spindle]

uhhhh dont they have a diff page

[[Uplink]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Uplink

[ocean spindle]

ohh damn

yeah ccorrupted/external are the same

[vestal crest]

Ah ok, I just got confused because that page describes external uplinks but doesn’t mention corrupted at all (R7C3’s page calls it a corrupted, hence why I was confused)

[ocean spindle]

i should
i should maybe change that

never seen it get called external

uhhh does someone know how many codes is r6d2's uplink?

in sec?

[frail heart]

WRONG

[timber shoal]

got caught spreading misinformation, killing myself immediatlyb

[frail heart]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-fish-bones-dead-fish-skull-reaction-man-im-dead-bone-fish-gif-53593978314001323

[timber shoal]

what the fuck is that gif

[slim saddle]

So I finished the tutorial tonight. Popped into LFG Beginners to see if I could play a level or 2.

First lobby was with someone who could solo the first level, and proceeded to do just that. I tagged along and looked cute.

Second lobby I let them know that I was completely new, and could leave if that was an issue. They say that's fine, and proceed to load up the last 2 levels of the game (as far as I know), desperate to share the story with zero context. Apparently we got the bad ending, and credits roll. Again, I was told how I should be playing, left to navigate the map myself a few times because something was happening in the level I was unaware of.

Did this game pass me by? Something like a live service game that I just didn't get a chance to enjoy? Both these games were in the LFG beginners lobby, so I'm left to assume that means LFG easy missions. I've no problem learning and being new, but if the GTFO new players experience is a series of following commands from more experienced players, I'll save myself the drive space and the community a headache, ya?

[timber shoal]

uh no, you encountered some shitty ass vets lmao

that is very unfortunate that you had that experience

GTFO isn’t for everyone but the part that puts people off is the difficulty

good vets would’ve helped you learn some of the base mechanics of the game and start developing your skills

i’m really sorry that you experienced that and had some fucking moron drag you through e2

[vale oriole]

Newfable if you want we can drop on R1 . I am fairly new only 30-40h so I won't carry you, but I can help you learn the basics 🙂

[timber shoal]

neonite doing the lords work out here 🙏

[vale oriole]

🙂

Yea I get his vibe. My first coop was I think r6 or r7 , that was a wild ride 😄 Then I started from r1 and this game actually clicked

[timber shoal]

people who drag newbies along are part of the reason this game’s playerbase is so small

you gotta nurture the new players and get them to enjoy the game

[vale oriole]

Whjy the heck is every voice channel doing r8c1 , is this some kind of special drop ?

[grizzled patrol]

@carmine grotto

[ocean spindle]

thats why i always recommend asking specifically to not b carried

[ocean spindle]

no just luck

[frail heart]

name drop 🗣️

[timber shoal]

yeah so we can throw rocks at them

[burnt inlet]

Im gonna discombobulate them

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/discombobulate-sherlock-sherlock-holmes-gif-14388058

wtf is this new discord bug that double sends gifs

kms

[carmine grotto]

wasnt me

[burnt inlet]

Is sending the first time you press

[timber shoal]

ik

[burnt inlet]

But didn’t like

[timber shoal]

but it’s annoying asf

gonna kill john discord

[burnt inlet]

Minimize the fucking thing

[prime ore]

Its much more better if you get your friends into the game even with a gun pointed at their head not gonna lie

[burnt inlet]

John G?

[timber shoal]

honestly i’ve had as much fun with people i’ve met here as with my irl friends

but yeah playing with friends makes it so much better

[burnt inlet]

:3

[frail heart]

you guys just fucking goon

[timber shoal]

yeah and you won’t join us for some reason

[burnt inlet]

Let us goon in peace

[timber shoal]

also not true, me and moth have beaten like two levels

[frail heart]

those 2 levels being ur dick and his dick

[timber shoal]

make that 4 levels

[runic roost]

Fuck it brah @slim saddle NAME AND SHAMEEE

[ripe hamlet]

Apparently someone read our yapfest about how hard it would be to carry a complete newbie through e2 and decided to do a prototype run?

Wild

[timber shoal]

evil shit

[neat vapor]

you can be the one getting carried next time dw

[timber shoal]

guh

yeah actually let’s do an experiment called can you carry dodo through e2

bc she’s a pub newbie

[neat vapor]

@undone raven duo with handicap

[prime musk]

ill do it right now

[timber shoal]

joking for like 3-4 different reason

[prime musk]

i can't believe it

[timber shoal]

most prominent is that it’s 1 in the morning and i have classes tmrw

:3

bedtime

[prime musk]

seems like peak gtfo time

but i get it

[timber shoal]

actual concern here is bothering roomie

[prime musk]

fair

[timber shoal]

alr

goodnight y’all

[proud socket]

Any tips for R4D1 (Nucleus)

[grizzled patrol]

Hel rifle

[proud socket]

Yeah I use HEL rifle what room[s] should I hold out in?

[tardy ingot]

if possible, reactor (for 2nd and 3rd wave)

1st you can defend wherever rly
4th i personally usually use the reverse bridge (2nd code one) so you dont push spawns too much but you are close enough to the alarm

[prime ore]

does slug shotgun 1 shot chargers??

[grizzled patrol]

yes

[prime ore]

thank you kind sir

[fathom ice]

😔

[grizzled patrol]

(if you shoot through a wormhole that redirects it to the back)

[ripe hamlet]

enter the sawed off cult

[tardy ingot]

No

[burnt inlet]

Slug being a worse sawed off is peak in my mind

Shouldn’t sawed off have more spread

[winter breach]

Well not really

Almost perfect spread tbh

[burnt inlet]

No but like

Out of a

Real life perspective

Sawed off should have way less spread than slug irl

[fathom ice]

moth

slug has NO spread

[burnt inlet]

Does it not?

[fathom ice]

moth

slug has

[burnt inlet]

Swear it feels like it has

[fathom ice]

ONE pellet

[burnt inlet]

My bad team😭

[grizzled patrol]

Real Life? Shortening the Barrel will Always increase spread

While slugs are Just as precise as rifles at certain ranges

[ripe hamlet]

sawed off so powerful it defies real life principle

truly the best main weapon

[undone raven]

Ur already handicapped with me ❤️

[fathom ice]

guys you should stream if you duo

it'll be good content

[grizzled patrol]

If you were to stream, would you add a Cat Cam?

[fathom ice]

no he would add thigh cam

[burnt inlet]

His thighs are thick

Don’t ask me how i know

[grizzled patrol]

Maybe you Just have small twink hands

Hmmm

[burnt inlet]

Hmmm

[undone raven]

GOOD IDEA

Big money coming in

People watching me would probably make me play worse though

[fathom ice]

that is the point

[grizzled patrol]

Just say that you are throwing for content

[fathom ice]

i said content not gameplay

[ripe hamlet]

gtfo cam femboy is wild

[winter breach]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[undone raven]

Anything to not get a j*b 💔

[ocean spindle]

i ask bacc again

[keen seal]

5 6 maybe

[digital mural]

56?

Isn't that a bit too much?

[timber shoal]

no that seems correct

[undone raven]

6 or 7

[timber shoal]

wild as in goated 🗣️ 🔥

[keen seal]

you shut your mouth

[fathom ice]

tuho u missed out on me building yesterday

it was peak

[full stream]

Im trying to do the b mission with only pistol achivement but it didnt give me the achivement when I finished a b mission

[tardy ingot]

did you use bots

[full stream]

no

[keen seal]

I'm sorry I was too busy playing reactor slop

[full stream]

can you use your tool?

[tardy ingot]

what level and what guns?

[fathom ice]

whats ur loadout

yes

[tardy ingot]

yes

[fathom ice]

same

[keen seal]

real

[full stream]

hell autopistol, high caliber pistol, hel auto sentry and knife

[keen seal]

autopistol prolly doesn't count

[fathom ice]

^

[full stream]

Does autopistol not count?

bruh

[fathom ice]

what did u clear

[full stream]

the easiest b tier mission, r1b1

[ocean spindle]

itt shoould

did u do it with bots

[full stream]

no

i put them on lock

[ocean spindle]

maybe steeam is just being dumb

[full stream]

k

[fathom ice]

do it agane

[full stream]

bruh

[ocean spindle]

u can try restarting gtfo of clearing some other mission later normally

[full stream]

i was unlucky with the spawns of the id's

[ocean spindle]

and see if it pops up

[full stream]

hmm I could

[full stream]

also

[tardy ingot]

Hm?

[full stream]

I didnt think there heads would go through the floor

[full stream]

just the 1 room, I had to clear 5 zones instead of 4

[tardy ingot]

thats usual

[full stream]

it only had 2 id's

[tardy ingot]

4 is somewhat rare

[full stream]

is it?

[tardy ingot]

or rather uncommon

[full stream]

Ive seen it somewhat

[tardy ingot]

its not that rare

But needing 5 is common

43 is mandatory
then if any of 39/41/43 have <3 you need to do 5

[full stream]

hmmm, well it was really shit clearing the 8 giants in each room

[ocean spindle]

funny

[full stream]

I wish I had better giant killing tools

[tardy ingot]

You didnt need to go into zone 40 tbf

id just not do that

[full stream]

well i wasnt gonna do the class 3 scan

[tardy ingot]

[full stream]

so I just killed the scout in the first room and just sneaked the rest

[full stream]

what other zone? its just the class scan zones, key card zone, and the fuck ton of giant zones right?

[tardy ingot]

alarm zones

class 3 is very funnelable

[full stream]

true i guess you could just open up the top door

[timber shoal]

both class 3’s are very funnelable

worst alarm imo is actually class 2

[tardy ingot]

If you do no sec doors its a ladder funnel
If you do its a long spawn away

[full stream]

at least I can close the door with bioscan speed

[tardy ingot]

Last alarm actually has the scans travel and a big door they go through which is eh

a lot of time spend in solo scans is moving between them

[timber shoal]

i just like to say that class 2 is worse because one time i didn’t open any doors and the scans ended up at like the top of the ladder to spawn

[tardy ingot]

yea that alarm has some funny travel rng

[timber shoal]

so the enemies were like on top of me

[tardy ingot]

ive seen it on a streamer do a no travel

[timber shoal]

wild

[tardy ingot]

All stayed upstairs and dropped before bridge

[timber shoal]

that amount of variance is just like bizarre lol

[tardy ingot]

you get to see so much shit when speedrunning

r6b2 3rd and 4th alarm variance is also crazy

[burnt inlet]

Idk about yall but r6d1 door travel rng is pretty funny

[fathom ice]

?

[safe cradle]

There aint any in final alarm

At least I think, unless you count an S-scan being slightly more to the right as "different"

I'm pretty sure it's always the same on that alarm

[burnt inlet]

That’s why it’s funny

It doesn’t exist

[ocean spindle]

confuzzled

[tardy ingot]

Jebaited by moth

[grizzled patrol]

Man. You are running MTFO

No Wonder you didnt get the achivement

You have to Change configs to be able to get achivements

[timber shoal]

oopsies

[ocean spindle]

brah

[dense scarab]

best loadout for r2c2? (considering you're gonna be playing with bots)

[grizzled patrol]

AK 47 in Main, RPG-7 in secondary slot

[dense scarab]

haha very funny

[neat vapor]

bots on burst cannon and something like shotgun or combat shotgun for yourself

[tardy ingot]

Bio/mines/double sentry (burst typically)

depending on comfort either knife or hammer on melee (you, as bot melee doesnt matter)

[dense scarab]

i've been running like this for most of my tries

[tardy ingot]

bots can be used with ammo conservation loadouts. So burst rifle/veruta mgs

[dense scarab]

i managed to get to the end of the level

however the bullshit big guys fight made me die at the end

[tardy ingot]

Well r2c2 isnt noteably hard

But. No mines
Give bio to a bot

[dense scarab]

why mines tho

[tardy ingot]

If you wanna minmax guns you could just take sawed off and scattergun to nuke the giants out

[tardy ingot]

Blood doors?

[dense scarab]

right

when i was beating r1c1 i used sawed-off and a hel-rifle

would that work here as well?

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle isnt that effective here as its mostly chaotic combat and small amounts of enemies

sawed off basically always works

[dense scarab]

so do i run 2 shotguns?

[tardy ingot]

Why not?

[dense scarab]

just asking

[tardy ingot]

there rly is only 2 shotguns that arent good or better

(Slug and choke mod)

[grizzled patrol]

You can drop Bio for Something Else, preferably give it to one of the Bots.

[tardy ingot]

yup said that aswell

[dense scarab]

so which special shotgun would be better here?

[carmine grotto]

slander

[grizzled patrol]

Slug is good. Unironically

[grizzled patrol]

Oh yeah, missed that one Message

[dense scarab]

choke mod sounds like upgraded sawed-off

[ocean spindle]

slug is ok

[ocean spindle]

technically yes but as a special other guns have more value

[grizzled patrol]

Its called Choke Mod because reloading it is Like choking on a bone. Slow, painfull and you might die If you dont have someone to help

[neat vapor]

personal preference really any of shotgun, cs, scatter work

[tardy ingot]

Its decent

(I choose my wording specifically)

It has clear weaknesses that make it not a good/great pick

[dense scarab]

is scattergun a shotgun?

[tardy ingot]

Yes

Its basically a nuke

Kills giants 1 shot

Can kill multiple smalls at once (if you get 2 per shot you are more efficient than high cal btw)

[grizzled patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-gif-22748569

[dense scarab]

okay perfect

so im thinking

sawed off scattergun mines

uhh

bio

[fathom ice]

the brainrot

but yes

correct

[dense scarab]

and 2 shotgun setries

[fathom ice]

my bad

i take it all back

[tardy ingot]

..

[uneven kiln]

[dense scarab]

which sentries would work here better in your opinion?

[tardy ingot]

🚪 👈

[fathom ice]

burst

[dense scarab]

why though

[fathom ice]

because shotgun sentry misses 9/10 times

and hel auto front facing is worse than burst

[tardy ingot]

Burst is just the usual choice

Hel auto could work if placed very well. Since realistically you only use sentry much for 1 (the first) alarm anyway

[dense scarab]

well im running bio on the bot

[carmine grotto]

more tool efficient and doesn't shoot at dead bodies

[tardy ingot]

shotgun sentry SUCKS

[neat vapor]

ive seen a shotgun sentry whiff multiple times in a row against a sleeping enemy

[dense scarab]

okay fair enough

[tardy ingot]

best showcase of shotgun sentry

Misses first shot
Grazes enemy on 2nd
Kills on 3rd
Shoots dead body twice after

5 shots for 1 kill…

people will meme about spear

will tell you ar and bullpup etc are weak

but shotgun sentry?

just dont pick that

[dense scarab]

noted

okay here's the final loadout

[fathom ice]

looks GREAT

you can win the game

[dense scarab]

alright, i'll give it a try

thanks everyone

how many mines to take out the blood door btw?

[fathom ice]

one

if you really want three

[dense scarab]

fair enough

[ocean spindle]

i like the shottie sentry wiki page cuz sends shit to it

[[Shotgun Sentry]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Shotgun_Sentry

[gleaming saffron]

what are the optimal choiices for guns for bots, and why?

i've seen a lot of use for hel revolver

is it because it pierces and it has decent ammo?

[timber shoal]

burst cannon or machine gun

main doesn’t matter too much

[gleaming saffron]

why burst cannon? it was so weird to use myself...

does it have a good ammo efficiency?

high damage?

something?!

[timber shoal]

burst cannon one shots strikers

[gleaming saffron]

fair

[tiny wyvern]

And bots can burst cancel

[timber shoal]

and the bots can get drags very easily and kill 3 with one burst

[gleaming saffron]

someone recommended me to run precision rifle on them, for shadows

[timber shoal]

also jfc the burst cannon is very strong

[gleaming saffron]

drags?

[tiny wyvern]

Yes, like aimbot

So they snap between three targets really quickly

Sure they can still miss

[gleaming saffron]

oh, i see

[tiny wyvern]

But it's not terrible

[timber shoal]

dragging the burst cannons’ crosshair so you hit multiple enemies with one spray

that’s how it’s ammo efficient in normal play

[gleaming saffron]

i never heard it being called "drag"

but i do know about doing so with spears...

[timber shoal]

brushes

is the word i was actually looking for

[tiny wyvern]

Don't bots shoot shadows as long as they're pinged?

[timber shoal]

yes

[tiny wyvern]

And with a bio bot you essentailly have them shooting all the time

[timber shoal]

prec rifle doesn’t give the bots any benefit

[gleaming saffron]

makes sense

thx

but why use machinegun instead of burst cannon

[timber shoal]

also for burst cannon you can 2 burst giants from the front or 1 burst to the back

[timber shoal]

friendly fire

[tardy ingot]

makes them use less ammo and if they tag you with a bullet it does 7 dmg

not 44

[timber shoal]

getting your back bursted on can hurt

[tardy ingot]

veruta mg on bots is for when you just want them to support.

Burst cannon is when you want them to kill shit for you

[tiny wyvern]

Also don't run shotguns on them

They don't know how to use them

[timber shoal]

sawed off scatter bots 🔥

[neat vapor]

for main it is usually dtr / burst rifle / hel revo

[ripe hamlet]

just install betterbot enable aimbot and let bot take veruta

[neat vapor]

idk which one is the best i just have them on dtr

[ripe hamlet]

ez efficiency

[timber shoal]

so true

it’s just a quality of life mod though so it’s fine

[neat vapor]

my favorite qol is probably arsenality

[ripe hamlet]

my fav qol is cconsole

let me put on checkpoint

why dont this game have them more?

[neat vapor]

the game is gatekeeping is why

[ripe hamlet]

not everyone has the time to retry 3 hours stealth part of every lvl

[neat vapor]

its what the g stands for after all

[tardy ingot]

[timber shoal]

why doesn’t r1a1 have all room doors replaced with checkpoint doors? is 10c stupid?

[ripe hamlet]

this game stealth is so boring it just a waiting and crawling game

[tardy ingot]

man that reminds me of these kind of steam reviews

they are so tragic yet funny

[ripe hamlet]

me on my way to write a review after spending 30 mins exploring the first zone in r1a1 and dies to the first alarm

[neat vapor]

it doesnt help that the game does almost nothing to get new players started

[timber shoal]

the other thing that doesnt help is when vets apparently drag new players through e2

[uneven kiln]

what would make stealth more exciting for you (shooting up rooms does not count)

[timber shoal]

which is just insane to me

[fathom ice]

listen

THEY ARE requesting to play e2

[timber shoal]

no no

[fathom ice]

there's actually nothing we can do

[timber shoal]

not that

[fathom ice]

well i haven't seen that purposely in a while

[ripe hamlet]

ngl we need more enemies that will get in the way of stealth

we really only have scout

[uneven kiln]

I agree actually

[neat vapor]

stealth gameplay could use more variety

[fathom ice]

i get it

[neat vapor]

its a shame there isnt much because this game has a really good stealth system imo

[uneven kiln]

I care a lot about making stealth interesting without making it a slog, because at high level play, I've seen stealth basically doesn't exist except in a very few select rooms

[fathom ice]

listen it was probably guiller

cuz they played r8e1

so like erm n erm

[neat vapor]

right now its basically normal enemy, big, scout, thing you shoot

[fathom ice]

some vets are just weird

most of them are listening to stuff tho

[ripe hamlet]

time to post a lf1 true duo e2 in lfg beginner

[fathom ice]

id join

i have 25 hours

[ripe hamlet]

real

[timber shoal]

waiter! waiter! more scout variants!

[ripe hamlet]

we need that flyer scout

[neat vapor]

chargers and shadows and nightmares add some variety but they arent mixed together almost ever and are much less common

[timber shoal]

scout mom

[uneven kiln]

I watched zed storm through the side zones of R5C2 Main by himself almost which was incredible, but it's an example of how I think there needs to be an extra layer/intricacies added to stealth for people who become veterans of the things vanilla offers

[neat vapor]

charger scouts might be the single best addition to stealth in the entire game

[fathom ice]

no you just play modded

[neat vapor]

if only you couldnt just shoot and foam them all the time

[fathom ice]

where every stealth room is double boss and a couple of scouts

[uneven kiln]

yeah what I'm referring to is like making modded stuff with stealth that isnt just 50 moms or tanks in 1 room so you are playing the worlds largest game of redlight greenlight

[fathom ice]

low-key stealth is just not that

interesting

like sometimes it's used well but most of the time

na

[neat vapor]

i think it could be a lot more interesting if there was more to it

[fathom ice]

like what

[neat vapor]

i can recognize problems not solve them

[fathom ice]

what is the problem

[neat vapor]

stealth is repetitive

[fathom ice]

most of the time yes

you can make it fun tho

[timber shoal]

i think its alright for SOME rooms with basics to be treated more like hazards than legitimate threats

[fathom ice]

chain it with gun play and it's pgood

[uneven kiln]

stealth is not only repetitive for veterans but the opportunity cost of doing so isn't threatening enough at high level play without just spamming tons of heavy enemies which dips back into not being that interesting cause I can just take an LRF to sync and be on my merry way if I dont end up having to kill

and if I do, scatter of gun

[timber shoal]

but they need to incorporate more later on to make those enemies more of a threat in some way

[neat vapor]

the best stealth in the game is those rooms where they put 5 scouts

[timber shoal]

exactly

that shit is horrifying

[fathom ice]

team it's like

maybe 3 rooms in the game

[timber shoal]

there need to be more area denial enemies

[fathom ice]

and each is not a threat

[neat vapor]

yeah and theyre the best ones

r4d1 scout room my beloved

[fathom ice]

low-key emp would go hard

actually threatening

modded uses it well most of the time

[uneven kiln]

EMP does exist in modded yeah

[neat vapor]

also e2 stealth segment is probably the best stealth in the game

[fathom ice]

it is good yes

[ripe hamlet]

scout that disable your guns for a minute after waking up sound kinda cool

[fathom ice]

there's a reason e2 is the best level

[ripe hamlet]

but i guess its just long kiting

[fathom ice]

yes

you circle kite for a minute

[ripe hamlet]

😔

[fathom ice]

it's just like annoying

[neat vapor]

also more baby stealth please thats all

[slim saddle]

Sure, if nothing else to help other newbies identify a possible bad time.

User GU1 posted in the LFG Beginners, 9/15 at 7:01. Clearly not a beginner, with no understanding of narrative development or buy in. Good player, friendly, and probably fun to play with if you've got experience under your belt, but didn't have much thought given to someone's experience when told verbatim, "I just finished the tutorial."

Possible experience can include, from experience:

• Being told where to go, where to stand, what to do, and what to press with no context.
• Being told to play aggressively with little to no context to game mechanics. Being careful and observant for your first time playing will raise questions as to why you're playing like that when they're telling you not to, ya big goof.
• Guiding you to a POI on a map to have you interact with it, run the opposite way immediately, and leave you to navigate an unfamiliar space on your own. May or may not include "jokes" like, "Finally!" once you successfully navigate out of a haze filled, potentially unclear, trap filled space.
• Leaving one Discord voice channel for another in the middle of a firefight with a single call out and no link. Not checking your Discord DMs while you're in the middle of the firefight to migrate to this new voice channel that adds nothing is your responsibility, silly.
• Will show you the final levels and sequences of the game having only seen some Let's Plays and only played the tutorial. Will expect amazing reactions. Closest analogy of experience for new players is having someone show you the final minutes of Avengers: Infinity War and asking you how good and impactful you think the franchise of movies are when you've told them you've just seen the trailer for the first Iron Man film and it looks neat.

Again, they're likely fun to play with if you've got hours under your belt. I'll just never know if that's true.

[digital mural]

Holy yap

Wtf happened now

[fathom ice]

omg it's guiller

i KNEW it

okay besides a big wall of text

there's a modded level with a good scout concept i really like

but other people don't really fuck with it

basically whole level is two two split

where ur error depends on scout pulls

so it's like 9 smalls and 1 bbc at start

and each scout pull is +1 bbc to a wave

[neat vapor]

this might be fire

[uneven kiln]

that is interesting

[fathom ice]

so if you pull too much throughout the level it's actually like terrible

makes u wanna stealth very carefully

[neat vapor]

if you pull all the scouts you get a challenge run

[fathom ice]

5 to 6 is like max

for a clear i'd say

more is just you run out of ammo

[ripe hamlet]

error wave scout

holy based idea

can already see groups of quad yelling reset after waking one

[fathom ice]

correct

BACK to wall of text

[fathom ice]

you should just make lobbies urself

low-key

and mark in lfg post that ure a beginner that helps

cuz people can't read sometimes

or u can mark that u want beginners in ur lobby as well

cuz people post in lfg beginners cuz no one is joining really

so outside of posting in a region channel they post there as well

[neat vapor]

if youre fine with more experienced players too you can specify you dont want to be carried

[ripe hamlet]

he got hazed 😔

[neat vapor]

all the reasonable ones will respect that (though itll still be easier than with beginners)

[fathom ice]

ig ye

[ripe hamlet]

this hazing culture got to stop

[fathom ice]

but yeah

that guy just got unlucky

[timber shoal]

it is very unfortunate thats their first experience with the game

[neat vapor]

its ok there wont be a game soon

[timber shoal]

right

[ocean spindle]

i wrote one and then r8 just did it

:3

real cool 10c

[timber shoal]

cant wait for that experience

[ocean spindle]

ksmdkm

funny

[ripe hamlet]

mom scout where it would periodically scream if you cant kill it fast enough

[ocean spindle]

wha lvl r u on

still c2?

[timber shoal]

yeah

[ripe hamlet]

best ending in the game fr

[grizzled patrol]

🥀

[ocean spindle]

r5c2

clown ksmdkm

dont spoil i kno u writing spoils

:O

[ripe hamlet]

the dev shouldve made a new lvl beginning cutscene for it

[slim saddle]

All lessons learned last night. XD

[fathom ice]

ye

preferably you just buy game with 3 other friends

[timber shoal]

sorry you had to experience that btw

thats very unfort

[fathom ice]

and if u will to stay and play it's good

[grizzled patrol]

Getting spawncamped by Guiller is diabolical

[slim saddle]

Happens everywhere. I'm not losing sleep. 🙂

[timber shoal]

nah its just unfortunate because gtfo's a lot of fun and having two back to back negative experiences is sucky

[ripe hamlet]

if gtfo so fun then why are you ppl here instead of playing gtfo???

[timber shoal]

am playing gtfo lol

[ripe hamlet]

damn

r5d1

[grizzled patrol]

Multi tasking

[ripe hamlet]

the most fun of lvl

[grizzled patrol]

Quad Monitor Set up

[keen seal]

just played gtfo

[winter breach]

Crazy

[grizzled patrol]

Tuho my man. How are you?

[winter breach]

Did and about to soon

[keen seal]

great googly moogly

doing good

[grizzled patrol]

Lovely

Been a while since ive Seen you in pubs

[timber shoal]

yeah it seems pretty slow for now

[winter breach]

Yep

2 long hours od fun

[timber shoal]

am no longer playing d1 lmfao

[fathom ice]

my latest d1 clear was 1 hour exactly

it's like

not that bad

[timber shoal]

oh i wasnt talking about the time

i long ranged a giant in the 4 scout room :3

[fathom ice]

do u mean r4d1

[gleaming saffron]

do bots know how to use melee?

[fathom ice]

my bad

[fathom ice]

sort of

[gleaming saffron]

if so, which one should i give them?

hammer? since its the average one

[fathom ice]

everything is same for bots

like they have a custom melee basically

so choosing doesn't matter

[gleaming saffron]

oh, so just the most stylish one, i see

[fathom ice]

ye

[timber shoal]

nope

r5d1

maybe there were only 2 scouts

4 pings but they couldve been far

idk

[fathom ice]

oh

was it in sec

there's like 3 in hub I think and 4 to 5 in tank side

[timber shoal]

nah i just wasnt expecting it and the bots decided to snuggle up with a giant

[fathom ice]

i get it

[timber shoal]

room after class 6

[fathom ice]

oh

it's only two

there are scouts in both side rooms so

[timber shoal]

noted

[gleaming saffron]

how do i choose which of the 4 "protagonists" i am?

[fathom ice]

by urself u can't really

[timber shoal]

generally you dont

[gleaming saffron]

sadge

[fathom ice]

in someones lobby it depends in what slot u join

so if u join 2nd you'll be in 2nd slot

[keen seal]

DAUDAA

[fathom ice]

maybe the scanner is the problem.....

[gleaming saffron]

but the slots don't seem tied to a specific character...

[safe cradle]

Dauda is best

[gleaming saffron]

at least not with the bots

[fathom ice]

they are

[keen seal]

so true

[fathom ice]

you get to unlock cosmetics every time u finish a mission

so it like

doesn't matter reallyt

[keen seal]

1st Woods pink, 2nd Dauda green, 3rd Hackett blue, 4th Bishop Purple

[digital mural]

Bishop my beloved

[safe cradle]

Only thing I can see that matters is that Dauda doesn't have certain voicelines and Bishop has them swapped during combat

[keen seal]

from left to right in the lobby

[safe cradle]

Which might be annoying if you're muted and dont use chatter reborn or whatever that's called

[gleaming saffron]

when putting bots, it seems WHERE they are in the lobby screen doesn't matter, it's just the order they join
which is dauda hackett bishop, since i'm woods

[keen seal]

oh yeah

[fathom ice]

yes

[safe cradle]

yeah but that only happens if you've locked slots

[fathom ice]

it's like

it'll assign you in order

and then whatever is free it'll assign you that

[safe cradle]

Lock all those bots, then make them rejoin left to right and you'll get the order Tuho talked about

[gleaming saffron]

i just did

[safe cradle]

It really doesn't matter

[safe cradle]

I doubt or second bot would be Dauda, you either didnt lock (kick, whatever you wanna call it) the bots out or added them in another order

In any case, if you want to play as Dauda, for example, your best bet is using a mod

Which I forgot how it's called, that lets you select

[gleaming saffron]

i just put them out of the order byy lllocking the slots, like you said

thx for the info

[fathom ice]

https://youtu.be/8aWZggEaQqY omg i fixed it

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ta-bien-esta-bien-goku-zero-fichas-gif-22449879

[prime ore]

does double tap rifle 1 shot chargers?

and if not can I put main damage mod for it to 1 shot if both shots land

[tardy ingot]

no

and no

[prime ore]

what are like the best weapons for chargers

doing R3C1 and R3D1

and its jst

1 gorillion chargers

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle/gun

tbf those levels dont have that many chargers in the end. its just like 1-2 segments each

[prime ore]

charger error alarm is evil

[prime ore]

also both are special,any good main ones?

I tried slug and its dogshit

[burnt inlet]

Sawed off one taps if you hit all pellets

[prime ore]

thank you kind sir

[burnt inlet]

And is like

Quick enough you get two shots off before you get punched

[tardy ingot]

sawed off (can 1 shot if you hit all pellets in range)
hel revo (4 taps and pen)
dmr (4 taps)
slug (2 taps, but it falls of as help into a lot as it shoots quite slow)
hel shotty (into massive hordes of em)

[prime ore]

thank you kind sir

https://tenor.com/view/балдёж-класс-имба-весело-лайк-gif-14918847556827868253

[ripe hamlet]

r3c1 prob hel gun/rifle

it has ass ending but thats about it

[ocean spindle]

also autopistol for stagger

which prevents licks

but only one

in the team

[finite cobalt]

hey there i was curious to know if anyone is playing this game on arch linux on steam? cuz my game just crashes when trying to go to the tutorial and im using proton experimental

wondering if there is a specific version i should use

couldnt find a linux related post or a question that answered this so im asking once more

many thanks in advance

[burnt inlet]

#1049599987878723635

but i did hear something about gtfo being iffy on linux(?) or like needing some special care or smth

[finite cobalt]

it indeed does, it has a gold ranking on protonDB, it means it needs some sort of tweaking for it to work, it doesnt work right out of the box, some said on this very channel or elsewhere that it works with proton experimental which it didnt, some said it would run better with hotfix which might fix my crash problem, i may try to find when that was and find out what version of proton is in that same era

[burnt inlet]

@normal granite didnt you get to run gtfo on linux?

[finite cobalt]

i shall find my answer my good sir, many thanks for helping, i will make a post with the answer

[burnt inlet]

#1371021585183408228 message he did get it to run i think

[finite cobalt]

i will find my answer without needing windows, i have found it before

[normal granite]

On steamos it booted, but crashed whenever i tried to host a lobby

I can boot up linux on my main pc to test tomorrow if you want

[burnt inlet]

ye id also be interested to find out

[normal granite]

Aight

Ill be able to do that in 8-9 hours

For now i gotta sleep (job interview in 6 hours)

[finite cobalt]

splendid! proton hotfix worked

[normal granite]

Welp no need to check then i guess XD

[finite cobalt]

i shall post it on the #1049599987878723635

[normal granite]

I guess i did just use the default proton when i was on steamos

[normal granite]

Ill probably still try it to compare the performance difference (not like i need the extra perf of a 9070 xt)

[gleaming saffron]

for machineguns, shoud i put veruta or arbalist for the bots?

[timber shoal]

veruta methinks

[burnt inlet]

burst canon

[gleaming saffron]

i can't read... ;-;

[little pilot]

burst cannon is insanely good on bots

[burnt inlet]

"mg bad"

[timber shoal]

if you're going to run mg though veruta :3

[gleaming saffron]

fair enough

[timber shoal]

its solid tbh

just outclassed

[finite cobalt]

the default is always proton experimental, it may have worked back then, or you are just not using arch (unless its steamOS which they have some extra stuff to make sure the game runs smoothly)

[normal granite]

Yeah it was steamos

[finite cobalt]

anywho farewell and good day to you all!

off i go getting out of a pod

[normal granite]

Gnight

Good luck getting the fried onions

[burnt inlet]

HSU pod?

[finite cobalt]

getting the wat?

[finite cobalt]

not sure, im new, i only watched mark play one episode and said "i must play it myself"

i had forgotten till now

and when i saw its on sale i bought it instantly

[burnt inlet]

welcome to suffering

[timber shoal]

dont listen to him

[finite cobalt]

i have played quite alot of risk of rain, i know suffering my good sir

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[timber shoal]

he's just pissy im making him play a level he doesnt like

[finite cobalt]

i see

i am very curious to see the backbones of this game

[burnt inlet]

k*nky

[finite cobalt]

im sort of a game dev myself and i just cant stop looking for how things are made, i will instantly go see what engine this game is built upon after i do the tutorial, first i must take a look and guess for myself

but from the trailers i say its some modified unreal engine

[burnt inlet]

oh youll have fun

[timber shoal]

its a good game :3

[finite cobalt]

anywho off i go! i shall return to reply soon enough

i know it is a good game, mark played the hell out of it

and the devs have made a few other games that i dont fully remember but i know that it was loved by the ppl i know which work in my field too

now i will go get off a pod.. again

[burnt inlet]

payday mostly

[tardy ingot]

tbf
its more like some of the payday team split off and made gtfo rather than the gtfo team making payday

[acoustic trout]

ok, one GIGA question

Whenever I matchmake, I seem to always be the room leader, why does that occour?

[thick stump]

I recommend you reading the #how-to-matchmake , after that create a voice lobby of 4 and post your invitation with the code here in this #lfg-beginners , so people can easily and fast join you 👍

this is better than the matchmaking ingame, trust me

[acoustic trout]

oh, fair'nuff!

ooooooh, so whenever I matchmake, I'm always the leader, unless I join a clipboard room, intriguing

thanks Andy

[thick stump]

you are welcome!

[tiny wyvern]

What exactly did you tell him to come report?

[sudden nexus]

ive run it on arch

i forget my setup tho

dont think i was using proton?

[tiny wyvern]

Like he did tell people to use proton hotfix, but... in what context?

Should I follow up, or is it solved?

[burnt inlet]

linux no worky with gtfo bacisly idk i dont remember

[gleaming saffron]

welcome to die!

[gleaming saffron]

not even with WINE?

[digital mural]

It does with wine

[keen path]

works for me in linux running under GE-Proton

[keen path]

try GE-Proton, i game mainly on Linux Fedora

download via ProtonUp-Qt

[full stream]

How much melee dmg increase do you need to one shot a giant?

[carmine grotto]

enough

[full stream]

But

[acoustic trout]

Gun

[full stream]

I wanna melee though

[acoustic trout]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[full stream]

Save my bullets

I can go on a rampage with a hammer

[carmine grotto]

just pick them back up?

[full stream]

I wish I can

[acoustic trout]

what if
Giga Bonk with 4 other people?

[full stream]

I’m too tired to wait though

[acoustic trout]

so true

[full stream]

So you know?

[timber shoal]

just solo them

[acoustic trout]

The wait is painful

[full stream]

Bruh I can but I just wanna know so that I can just run melee boosters

Just be pepega

[timber shoal]

i’ll find the chart later if you still want me to

[full stream]

Yes please

[full stream]

If you can with special weapons as well for scouts

But mainly I would like to know how much you need for melee

[timber shoal]

special weapons?

also you need at least 100% melee boosters to one shot a giant to the occiput with hammer

[full stream]

Can you even?

Like get that much

[timber shoal]

uhhhhhh

one sec lol

[full stream]

Can spear do it?

[timber shoal]

[[Boosters]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Boosters

[timber shoal]

spear’s significantly more feasible

you might be able to stack melee boosters to one shot giants with hammer, but you definitely can with spear

you “only” need 76% melee boosters

wait

it still might not oneshot with maxed aggressive and mute boosters

[full stream]

Doesn’t it have precision dmg?

Like knife

[timber shoal]

overall answer: not in any viable sense

[timber shoal]

that;s including the precision damage

[full stream]

Damn

[timber shoal]

yeah

soloing is both actually viable and is fun

:3

giants that is

[full stream]

Well I just wanted to see if it was possible to melee giants in 1 hit to be pepega

And just don’t give a fuck tbh

While clearing rooms

[timber shoal]

use scattergun to achieve that effect

[full stream]

How about, how much special dmg increase do you need to one shot a giant in the front with burst cannon

[timber shoal]

[[Burst Cannon]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Burst_Cannon

[full stream]

Since giant has 120 hp

I’m assuming 100%….

[timber shoal]

uhhhh

nah like 33% or so i think

[full stream]

What?

How tf does this calculation work

[timber shoal]

wait hold on

maybe i’m an idiot

[full stream]

Is it per bullet?

[timber shoal]

wait wait

no that should be right i think

so burst cannon deals 22 damage per bullet

wait

giant head mult is different

kms

[[Big Striker]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Big_Striker

[timber shoal]

hold on that puts a wrench in things

[full stream]

Isn’t it 2x?

[timber shoal]

no

1.5

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Ok but wouldn’t 1 bullet be enough to break the head

Since that 1 bullet would basically kill the part health break

[timber shoal]

76% damage booster

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So wouldn’t you only get 1 shot in the head

[timber shoal]

yep

accounted for that

2 body + 1 head

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I don’t think you can achive that

[timber shoal]

nope

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Think the max is 75%

Damn so no to that either

[timber shoal]

just use scatter tbh

consistent 1 shot on giants

or just get behind giants to use burst cannon

[full stream]

Yh…

So no pepega for me then

[timber shoal]

doesn’t sound like it

not without yellow syringe anyway

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Just roll to seduce the giant

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I wish

[timber shoal]

frank’s probably already in a committed relationship tbh

he seems like a nice dude

[runic roost]

With a chicken or a hybrid

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big shooter on the other hand

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Real questions here

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You know any fun booster combos with weapons?

[timber shoal]

big shooter is a slvt for sure

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Mabey precision rifle with dmg increase

Able to one shot enemies

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any amount of main booster with dmr allows for 1 shotting strikers

any amount of special damage boosters with hi caliber lets you oneshot chargers

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Any amount

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am sure there are there are others

think so

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What?

They already do

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[[Striker]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Striker

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30.1

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oh wait lol yeah

[[DMR]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/DMR

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So if you can aim with the DMR

It would be a pretty good weapon

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yeah it leaves them on less than 1 health methinks

so even a 10% boost should do the trick?

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That’s really sad

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What about precision rifle

[timber shoal]

what abt it?

[full stream]

It could be a good choice to one shot strikers

Since it has a good amount of ammo

[timber shoal]

prec rifle does 1 shot strikers

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Do they?

[timber shoal]

and its just a revolver with a thermal scope tbh

[full stream]

Hmm I guess

But such a slow reload though

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prec rifle has a slow reload yeah

revo def does not

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Hmmm then how does the boosters for sentries affect them by how much

I never ever used them and I have a lot of boosters for them

I just never seen the difference at all

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couldn’t tell you

i dont use boosters