gtfo-related-questions

[thick stump]

oh true, I forgot about that

[outer swallow]

i have patience but this is goddamn dumb

Like they never address this in guide videos

this shit's not fun at all

[thick stump]

the enemies can hit around corners a little but not too far

[winter breach]

Look the game teaches you very badly for what it can offer

[thick stump]

try using this channel #guides-and-reviews

[winter breach]

You should watch some tutorials to become better

[burnt inlet]

It’s like advanced ish knowledge, d4rkeva has some good vids on this

[winter breach]

Bc the ingame tutorial is very bad

[neat vapor]

staggering is an alternative to dodging

[burnt inlet]

What level are you on?

And what is the loadout

Was prolly said somewhere

[neat vapor]

just to ask for context yeah whats the loadout

[outer swallow]

Rundown 1, double tap rifle, sniper, and bio scanner

[neat vapor]

what about the bots

[outer swallow]

shit idk, default ones i guess

[thick stump]

never take a sniper, there is no real situation where you can use that effeciently

[burnt inlet]

What level? (Like A B C D)

[neat vapor]

have a bot bring bio instead of you

[outer swallow]

B

[burnt inlet]

Specially as a newbie

If you like the sniper you might like hel rifle

[outer swallow]

i still wish they can actually play instead of circlejerking a sleeper

[burnt inlet]

B1 or B2?

[neat vapor]

if the bots are your issue why not just matchmake here

[outer swallow]

i forgot, i havent read clearly in-game

[burnt inlet]

Was it grab ID’s?

[outer swallow]

i dont like using discord for matchmaking so i have friends to play with

[thick stump]

best load out for bots:
double tap rifle or burst assault rigle
burst cannon or techman veruta
one of the bots should have the bio tracker and the other burst sentry and/or mine deployer

[neat vapor]

can someone link the eva stealth guide

[neat vapor]

its burst cannon > veruta its not close in terms of killing power

[winter breach]

The thing with bots is that they are mediocre so the game with the can be more "fair", they really cant wake up anything even with shooting unless they are shooting longer than 2 seconds and their biotracker is 3 times better than players

[burnt inlet]

#guides-and-reviews message. Check this vid @outer swallow

[thick stump]

https://youtu.be/I0PP1U_MM74

[outer swallow]

i'll checkk out the videos, i used sniper because i can use it to kill the big guys and that one with the tentacles that alerts every enemy with alarm

[thick stump]

bots are kinda broken sometimes because they are completely silent, of course they have their disedvantage but I like them more than some random people who are sprinting around and waking up everything xD

[ripe hamlet]

[outer swallow]

i had no time to deal with this shit where i had to "melee their heads upclose"

[ripe hamlet]

using sniper is the issue

[outer swallow]

cuz that was fucking stupid

[burnt inlet]

@outer swallow I’d recommend tripple sentry for B1 (ID mission), I forgot what’s viable for B2 but you can also run triple burst sentry

[ripe hamlet]

you need something else

[thick stump]

there are a lot of weapons which can do that, like hel rifle or scattergun which are much better in using also against smaller enemies

[burnt inlet]

Learn how to melee its head (if your using hammer it’s one tap head if knife and bat it’s to the back of the head)

[outer swallow]

yeah i tried looking for recommended loadout guides for certain mmissions but they dont have that on google so i just went with what made sense

[ripe hamlet]

sniper is only good for big guys

but the small will completely destroy you

use something that can deal with everything moderately

[burnt inlet]

There’s two loadouts that are extremely overpowered so most people just takes those honestly

[outer swallow]

They rotate their movement like its fucking dead by daylight so i usually hiit side of their head or shoulder and they still alarm

and i cant even rush it cuz of charging animation

[thick stump]

also you get around 20% primary weapon ammo and 30% special weapon ammo, so you need a special weapon where you gonna use more often than the primary one

[ripe hamlet]

you only have bots so youll need to be able to do everything yourself

[burnt inlet]

Run whilst charging, makes them extend their feelers and you can melee them

Or run thru the feelers

[neat vapor]

id recommend something like combat shotgun, hel rifle, high cal, or shotgun

[outer swallow]

isnt touching their feelers gonna alert/

[neat vapor]

they can all wave clear better than sniper and can kill bigs well still

[outer swallow]

?

[burnt inlet]

After like 4 seconds

It’s really forgiving

[neat vapor]

hel rifle and high cal also can one shot scouts to the head with good range

[thick stump]

if you have 1 second time before they scream

[winter breach]

Then use spear

[outer swallow]

I see, but what about dealing with the horde?

[burnt inlet]

No don’t do this lol

[winter breach]

Sorry but this is a very difficult game

[ripe hamlet]

just shoot lmao

[winter breach]

Use guns

[ripe hamlet]

sometimes if you dont think you can stealth a room

kill whatever you can and then shoot

the game has enough ammo if you can aim somehow well

[outer swallow]

It takes full ammo to dismember one of them, and even then i stiill get hit behind cover

[burnt inlet]

Maybe get a better loadout ngl, ur very ”shoot big” heavy and you wanna be on wave clear with bots

[ripe hamlet]

you were using sniper which is terribly inefficienct for killing small

what is your main weapon

[outer swallow]

SMG

[burnt inlet]

Dismembering doesn’t do anything except stun them like a second just sayin

[outer swallow]

well

[ripe hamlet]

full auto is not good in this game

[outer swallow]

it was SMG when i changed now

[neat vapor]

im just going to go back to what i said loadout wise

[outer swallow]

but previously it wa sdouble tap

double tap rifle

[winter breach]

It all depends on what youre using

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t double tap reliant on hitting one hs and one body for smalls?

[burnt inlet]

And what they’re aiming at

[ripe hamlet]

try hel revolver, sawed off shotgun, dmr

[winter breach]

Yep

[burnt inlet]

As mains

[outer swallow]

I'm not good at aiming either, so i was hoping it'd be liike L4D2 where i wouldn't have issue with commons

[ripe hamlet]

nah

[outer swallow]

but the enemies movement is laggy

[burnt inlet]

You’ll get better over time

[ripe hamlet]

this game is way harder

[neat vapor]

carbine is also a good pick if you want something easy

[outer swallow]

so i can't even kill them at ease with my main

[ripe hamlet]

yeah carbine is decent

[thick stump]

use shotguns, they super good in this game

[ripe hamlet]

your main weapon is full auto and thus not really that good for killing

[burnt inlet]

Their animations are a bit bad but other than that not really super laggy if ur not on a bad host/connection

[neat vapor]

anything that staggers in one trigger pull and isnt a shotgun is good for beginners usually

[ripe hamlet]

youd want a more high damage weapon to quickly kill them

single-shot main weapon is good for that especially if you can land a headshot

hel revolver has like 8 bullets and can kill a small with a headshot and a body shot

same with dmr

i think carbine needs 3 burst for bodyshot kill?

[thick stump]

I think 1 head and 1 body but I haven't used the carbine for a very long time anymore

[winter breach]

2 or 3

Depending on distance

The full dmg is 9.58 with 1 burst

So just shoot the head and body for ammo efficiency

[brave lake]

Hello. Is it easy to look for group on this server around 21:00 to 24:00 (UTC +7)? Is the server active at that time?

[thick stump]

from what I saw so far is that the game mayority played by americans and europeans, there are some asians here and there but not so many 🤔

[brave lake]

That's what I'm wondering about. I'm really interested in this game, but I know that not many asians play this type of game.

[thick stump]

it is possible to play this game with 3 bots but learning the game gonna be hard at the beginning

[thick stump]

but there are some americans and europeans who also play at that time, maybe more on the weekend, so you can play this game with a group here and there

[hard nexus]

guys

real question

imagine making a real tier list of all video games

would it be a troll to put gtfo in top4

[brave lake]

That's good to know! I'll probably try that. I don't really mind the ping.

Thank you!

[grizzled patrol]

Top 10 are Games that can be enjoyed by anyone. GTFO is too niche for that

[hard nexus]

yeaaaaa alright thanks

ill put it lower a bit

[thick stump]

also, if you want to search for a group, read #how-to-matchmake and post your invitation in the #lfg-beginners and on the lfg channel from where you from, so you reach a good amount of people 👍

[ripe hamlet]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ripe hamlet]

try the lfg channel of your region

[burnt inlet]

From what I see you’re a couple of hours before eu hops on

Weekend i could see EU being on that time

[brave lake]

Thank you all! I really apprieciate it 🙂

[uneven kiln]

Team what's a "reasonable fast time" and a "reasonable slow time" for R3D1, the former can assume an experienced team and the latter like a first clear with a team new to the level

[prime musk]

sub 20, sub 60

[digital mural]

Anything between 1-2 hours is a reasonable slow time for new teams

[carmine grotto]

If you're going more than 30 mins in 3d1 something went seriously wrong

[normal granite]

Tfw my completion of r3d1 was 11 hours XD

[uneven kiln]

Did you sleep overnight after error

[carmine grotto]

bro took a nap after mom 1

[ripe hamlet]

10 hours of stealthing the cscout zone

[normal granite]

Went to work before p mum

[ripe hamlet]

gotta be slow and steady

[hard nexus]

chatter reborn is the best mod for this

while i was afk on the shitter, woods said "unless you have to take a shit, stay close"

[digital mural]

CHATTER REBORN SPOTTED

MODS, BAN THIS GUY

[hollow pollen]

Shh!

[tardy ingot]

Medal mod be like

As fuster said, 30 minutes is kinda the cut off for an expected first clear if theyve tried the level

For a true blind time id say ~45 minutes

For an experienced team with prior knowledte reasonably fast is anywhere between 13 to 20 minutes depending on what you see as experienced and reasonable

[safe cradle]

This days I'd prefer chatter reborn than some of the stuff I'm seeing in pugs

All kind of people running around with Arsenality and whatever other mod makes people zoom zoom or jump and shoot

[tardy ingot]

The worst thing about arsenality being used

Its people actually thinking/believing that its a balanced mod

[safe cradle]

This applies to a lot of people that use those mods

It's always some "I'll carry guys" type

[frail heart]

the mod creator saying its balanced

[tardy ingot]

Ye…

and beginners will just believe that

[carmine grotto]

whens medal mod 2?

[digital mural]

[tardy ingot]

Get your medals first @carmine grotto

[carmine grotto]

you can't force me to get a medal on r5d1

[tardy ingot]

Main only is actually solid (with foresight especially)

dont do secondary…

fuck that

[carmine grotto]

hear me out, 100%, chicken parm %

[normal granite]

only mods i run in pubs (and even in friend group) are:

accurate crosshair
actually no sway
better maps
clean clothes
no downed buzz
no gui mirroring
no menu blink
respawn sack barcode fix
skip intro
the archive
and weapon stat shower

nothing really gameplay related

[burnt inlet]

Fuh you mean the archive removes all the spice

All of the bugs

[normal granite]

i only have it to auto skip the drop cutscene for if im away from pc

[little pilot]

imagine not wanting to get 15 liquid bugs per alarm

[normal granite]

i have the entire liquid system turned off

i get nauseous from the infection effect

[finite oracle]

does a perfectly timed hammer+bat kill a charger scout

[carmine grotto]

at full charge to the back, yes

[grizzled patrol]

But Shitstained clothing is Part of the experience

[normal granite]

but then i cant appreciate the full model work

[safe cradle]

Quick! You can swap the Tutorial in GTFO for ONE mission (can require sectors). All of the game will be locked for the player until he finishes that mission (1 player with 3 vanilla bots, player can pick tool/weapons for the whole team). Which map do you pick and why?

[uneven kiln]

R3D1 (only a semi serious suggestion, but being able to do this mission is such a keystone for later stuff, bots do have moderate trouble with the stealth section after the Error)

[sudden nexus]

~~r7c3 main because pubs need to learn stealth ~~ r3a1, i think its one of the better a tier missions that teach mechanics decently

[grizzled patrol]

R1B1. No pressure, lots of stealth, alarms to do, smalls, bigs, scouts, lots of terminal usage and is a pick your adventure mission. Basically the perfect tutorial sandbox

[hard nexus]

dont do lsd

[civic wave]

a level where you will skill prog and you will be happy (there is no such level)

[undone raven]

Smth smth smth this game sucks

Smth smth play modded

[civic wave]

maybe it is not the game that sucks, but the person whose eyes you are experiencing it through

[undone raven]

Everything sucks, so technically nothing sucks

[gentle forge]

Agreed; when I see people running mods that change the game or make it easier I’m disinclined to want to play with them; no offense of course I just prefer the vanilla experience (perhaps with the bug fixes)

[burnt inlet]

I think the like one you could ask me to turn off is a setting in the archive where I see what objective type something is if it’s already been carried, same but with sentries (I see if they’re hel auto or burst etc)

[gentle forge]

Well I think the archive has a setting that disambiguates the sentry type when you press tab right? Is that what you mean?

One of the only things I have enabled in all of the archives features is the L4D style resource packs

[burnt inlet]

No you can see like a ”ping” where it says what sentry is if it’s placed down

Same with objective items

[gentle forge]

Ah

[burnt inlet]

It’s not rly that bad imo tho

[gentle forge]

I wouldn’t say so

It’s better than ping anywhere at least

[burnt inlet]

Yea

[gentle forge]

That kinda takes away from the communication and strategy

[burnt inlet]

Like this one is specifically if you’re mute or whatever but I just leave it on

[gentle forge]

I’ve seen some people running mods that apparently let you run and shoot lol

[digital mural]

There's mods for everything

[burnt inlet]

The mods I’ve seen

[digital mural]

You want to put the turbine in your back and run normally? Check
You want to carry cells in your back? Check
You want double jump? Check

[undone raven]

That's a bit much but shoot in air should be vanilla

[gentle forge]

Yep seen this as well. When I first saw someone carry a turbine or cell on their back I thought they knew something I didn’t lol. Now I see how much easier that makes the game (see r2e1)

[uneven kiln]

The turbine the back is like giga OP especially

because it's still active

[restive kraken]

.

[gentle forge]

That is indeed giga OP lol

[gentle forge]

Any tips for this section? Is this the general strat for managing the surge (without using the cheese spot)? #short-clips message

[sudden nexus]

try increasing your fov

also on second scan you had them really clumped up at the beginning but rather than doing scan you just killed

meaning they would come from spawn sooner

vs you just go pladder and all enemies come down it

much easier to deal with enemies coming from a single side and you had that when second scan landed but didnt use it

also first scan was horribly messy

[gentle forge]

To be fair it was my first time trying it solo lol

[digital mural]

Good lord is that 55 fov?

[gentle forge]

Or one of the very first anyways

[sudden nexus]

also you can throw foggies as soon as you see scan is going center area

dont fight enemies in fog

[gentle forge]

It’s default fov

[digital mural]

Change it

[ocean spindle]

u should up iit to 90 or so

[digital mural]

It might not seem like much

[gentle forge]

But I like it

I hate that fisheye effect

[ocean spindle]

we all do until we meet something better

[digital mural]

The impact of fov is HUGEEEEEEEEE in this game

[gentle forge]

But I’ve tried it

So should those guys not have caught me down at the first scan if I had done something differently with my positioning?

Or are you just saying to get the repeller down there sooner

[sudden nexus]

both

at least try 90 fov

55 is just criminal

[gentle forge]

Lol

I’ll try it once more. But I like the more confined fov bc it evokes more of a survival horror feeling

Imo

[ocean spindle]

the feel gets way behind when soloing

its increasing ur chances or comtting to feel

[gentle forge]

Yeah I understand that

[ocean spindle]

and if u chose feel might as welldo a bio ksdmkms

[gentle forge]

A bio what ?

[ocean spindle]

trackker

cuz it has viibes

but its bad for a solo

[gentle forge]

That’s what I was running lol

[sudden nexus]

shotgun sentry carry

:3

[gentle forge]

But everyone says it’s shit

I tried it and thought it was fairly decent for this

[burnt inlet]

Hel auto would carry during surge

[sudden nexus]

thats the jonkle right there

[gentle forge]

Yeah I like hel auto

[sudden nexus]

hel auto at entrance can help decently

[gentle forge]

So how could I have positioned myself better to allow for fewer guys to cut back and go down where they did at that first scan?

And also is the shotgun sentry actually good or no

[sudden nexus]

tbh i would have rushed first scan

throw foggies then pull alarm

do not fight in fog

you have two decent lines on enemies depending on where scan falls

and nothing from behind

[gentle forge]

I’ll try it

[runic roost]

trust bro theres a good amount of asians and australians

Id say I see em more than the latter

[outer swallow]

Why tf does it take forever to stealth through a horde of giants but if i fart once i alert whole of them? its so bs

and fucking sledgehammer is useless man

[ripe hamlet]

you can just shoot them all

[outer swallow]

likke i aim at their head and all i hit is their dfucing chest

like what the fuck??

[timber shoal]

jump

[outer swallow]

we dont even have enough ammo

[timber shoal]

let go of swing mid air

[outer swallow]

I make noise, whole fucking army just chase after me

if i jjump

[ripe hamlet]

is this r1b1

[timber shoal]

what level are you on

[outer swallow]

r2b2

i think

i forgot

i was playing with randoms

[timber shoal]

wtf even is r2b2

i don’t remember

[ripe hamlet]

honestly couldnt remember r2b2

lmao

[outer swallow]

i didnt check

[ripe hamlet]

is it the uplink one

[outer swallow]

its the one where you need 12 personnel ids

[ripe hamlet]

thats r1b1

[timber shoal]

the second level of the game

[outer swallow]

ohh

god this iis so annoying

it is so janky its not even challenging in thrill sense

its like playing bubsy 3d

[timber shoal]

use guns

win

[ripe hamlet]

sound like you dont understand the aggro mechanics

[timber shoal]

if you’re on 0/0 you’re doing something wrong

[ripe hamlet]

the cure is to watch eva stealth guide

[outer swallow]

not enough ammo and tool refill, mostly glowstickk and lock melter, hence why i tried to stealth it entirely

[ripe hamlet]

or just dont kill

just get in take the ids and get out

[timber shoal]

full stealth’s an option yeah

[ripe hamlet]

or if youre for some reason really terrified of the giants

do the alarm zones

[outer swallow]

it's like simon says with these enemy npc, they all glow one after another, they rarely ever stop glowinig altogether, so when they do, i make best of it, then i see one of them glowinig out of nowhere and suddenly the horde is alerted

i wanna shoot them but i run out ofammo and sentry ammo

which is why i wanted to save it for alarms and escape

[ripe hamlet]

you can flashlight them all to sync their glowing

and that lvl has no extraction alarm

[outer swallow]

and thats what i did, but not necessarily for this, just so i can get a clear view

[outer swallow]

well i dont kknow that

[ripe hamlet]

but i think you just have to aim better

the lvl has plenty of ammo

and if clearing room is such a pain

you can bring mine to wake the room and close and mine the door

[outer swallow]

i dont think this is an aim issue, my hammer just hits their chest when i wanted their head, the

animation is janky

[ripe hamlet]

hammer is the second least jank melee after spear

[timber shoal]

again, jumping won’t wake things unless they’re in really really close proximity instantly

which is not to say use spear

[outer swallow]

so is there anything i can do about that? other than shooting?

[timber shoal]

jump

[ripe hamlet]

you probably hit the chest because giant is tall

[timber shoal]

before swing

[outer swallow]

i meant close proximity

[timber shoal]

get a stealth hit and then shoot

[ripe hamlet]

and their neck hitbox is a little jank

[digital mural]

Sup chat

[outer swallow]

huh

[digital mural]

What are we talking about

[outer swallow]

how does that not alarm themm?

[timber shoal]

get a melee in, then swap to gun

[ripe hamlet]

stuggling in r1b1 giant zone

[timber shoal]

it does

[digital mural]

Ah

Set up sentries/tools
And shoot

[timber shoal]

if there’s lots of giants clumped you aren’t gonna stealth shit

[outer swallow]

see, iits impossible to stealth this game, its like youre being trolled

[digital mural]

Don't stealth that zone if you don't need to

[ripe hamlet]

you stealth what you can and shoot what you couldnt

[digital mural]

The thing is
You don't stealth EVERYTHING in this game

[timber shoal]

sounds like a take from someone with 10 hours in game

[digital mural]

If we see we can't or it's too risky we shoot

[outer swallow]

so if theres a giant, shoot, if its simply a common, then stealth?

[digital mural]

No

[ripe hamlet]

you can stealth giant if youre in a group

but giant has to be basically alone

[timber shoal]

if there’s a giant that’s in close proximity to another enemy then it becomes finicky

[ripe hamlet]

or far enough from other giant

[outer swallow]

nnone of the randoms i played with can kill a giant in stealth melee

[ripe hamlet]

technically you could solo stealth them but thats not what most ppl can do

[digital mural]

Charge your melee and hit the limbs

You'll break the limb and stagger him enough time to charge again

[ripe hamlet]

you only need 2 ppl to consistently stealth them

alternate breaking their limbs to cause them to constantly stagger

[outer swallow]

nno they'll recover quickly and attac u and alert others

[timber shoal]

you need to be efficient

[outer swallow]

and you dont have enough time to charge another attack

[digital mural]

You have enough time to hit them again

[burnt inlet]

I generally think ”two people per giant” and if it’s less than two people per giant either leave it or shoot

[digital mural]

You do

[timber shoal]

yes you do

[digital mural]

I have stealth giants alone

Dozens of times

[timber shoal]

same

[ripe hamlet]

newbiews wont be able to do that

[timber shoal]

not saying they cna

[outer swallow]

yeah i wont be able to do that

[ripe hamlet]

it takes 2 to do it for most people

[timber shoal]

but it’s possible

[outer swallow]

not even randoms can

[ripe hamlet]

unless you take spear

[digital mural]

Don't take spear

[ripe hamlet]

[digital mural]

Also the charge time is almost the same as hammer

I think it's the same actually

[ripe hamlet]

the range helps massively

[digital mural]

Range isnt even that important

[ripe hamlet]

i can 100% solo stealth with spear but im not that good with hammer

[digital mural]

"Everyone" can solo stealth a giant with spear

But the downsides are massive to the point is just not worth taking spear

[ripe hamlet]

tru

[digital mural]

@carmine grotto stop lurking and post a horse pic

[carmine grotto]

Size dont matter

[digital mural]

I mean

It depends on what we are talking about

[ripe hamlet]

Mined door?

[carmine grotto]

its not the size of the horse in the race, but the size of the track it runs

[digital mural]

[carmine grotto]

famous quote by Haru Urara

[winter breach]

Take spear

Dont listen to the propaganda

[digital mural]

😭

[carmine grotto]

🐴

[digital mural]

🐴

[pale tapir]

Stop horsing around

[winter breach]

One thing every melee has is a shove attack

You use your right click to do that

Its another way to stagger and get around 50% charge with your melee (depending which one youre using) and it also stops others from waking up

[wooden swift]

What happens if I activate two door alarms at once? Does completing one deactivate the other or do all scans need to be completed before spawn waves stop? Are there independent spawn caps for each door alarm? I've already noticed that 2x alarms roughly doubles enemy spawn rates, but the waves don't seem much larger than normal

[grizzled patrol]

Max ammount of enemies is roughly 25

There are so instances that can deactivate the other Alarm aswell, for the example ending the uplink

But you have to Go Out of your way to do so since its rare for the Alarm to be Close to an uplink

[gentle forge]

Is it possible to complete the game by yourself with bots, or are there some levels in which this is a technical impossibility for some reason?

[thick stump]

there are some levels which are super hard with 3 bots because sometimes you have to carry several items at the same time or 2 people has to do something on 2 different terminals something, or during reactor alarms, code hunting alone is much harder than with a second player or with 4 players

it is possible but super hard to be alone

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t it theoretically possible but never done?

[thick stump]

I am not up to date what the veterans have done in this game so far, I know that they done some hard missions completely alone

[burnt inlet]

Yeppers

@wild flare was one of the ones trying for it, don’t remember how far they got

[frail heart]

yes

[wild flare]

i think only 1 lvl is near impossible to do with bots ( R7E1) and 2 of those close to impossible (R4E1 with sec and R8E2)

[frail heart]

how is r7e1 impossible?

[wild flare]

r7e1 due to one specific enemy ( no spoilers ), r4e1 is secondary part mechanic, r8e2 is just too hard

[frail heart]

bro what the fuck is this new discord UI

[fathom ice]

💀

[frail heart]

fuck ass gap at the bottom

[wild flare]

yeah

[fathom ice]

i swear everytime discord comes up with the most diabolical ui choices

and then people just cope with it

[wild flare]

nothing you can do with it xd

[frail heart]

always innovating or some shit

[frail heart]

vencord had old UI as a thing but they got rid of it or something

[wild flare]

rip

[safe cradle]

Vanilla bots? I dont know I dont think they fare well against Pablo, rest is theorically possible IIRC.

[frail heart]

you can always just down the bots after team scans

[fathom ice]

low-key it's easier to do a bunch of stuff solo instead of with bots

[safe cradle]

Only R7E1 solo I've seen was t-nenpi

and IIRC he long kited giants

[frail heart]

nah

he used cheese spots and big flyer capped

cheese spots for rooom scan and brazil

never seen the cheese spot for room scan ngl

[wild flare]

he still did first part solo without cheese, which is cool

[frail heart]

you can kite the room scan into the next zone super easily

[wild flare]

before room scan

[frail heart]

brazil is scary tho

[fathom ice]

na

u perma kite same as quads

[safe cradle]

There's something I want to ask

Lately I've been playing some R4D1 with pubs

and I've noticed some people can see enemies way better than I could

No thermals, no pings (I was bio)

Do they crank up/down contrast or brightness?

I keep thinking some basic video option that I have on makes it way harder

[thick stump]

I use my hearing a lot for detecting enemies, because it also helps a lot against shadows

but I also sometimes miss enemies because sometimes there are in a very dark corner or around a corner and hasn't made a single sound

[burnt inlet]

There are no shadows in R4D1 afaik

[frail heart]

wdym see

[safe cradle]

I mean I look down an hallway and the enemy is 100% impossible to see because said hallway is dark

But people get headshots on that shit no issue

without thermals or pings

I've been kinda seeing that sometimes

[burnt inlet]

I’ve noticed chargers are hard to see on VA panels, I’ve heard people complain about OLEDs before

[safe cradle]

Either I really am not sensitive to lights, I've some fucked up contrast/brightness or they do

I mean it could be the first one tbh

my eyesight is kinda bad

[burnt inlet]

Do you have problems at night specifically?

[safe cradle]

No it's not as pronounced

but I cant shake off the feeling that either my game is too dark or someone has brightness way up

(which is okay, I dont mind)

But since I usually set brightness very low for games I'm wondering if I'm not shooting myself in the foot for that in GTFO

[prime musk]

it is objectively an advantage to have a high(er) brightness in gtfo

however

it could also be your fog settings and shadow settings

[ripe hamlet]

your driver application can probably adjust brightness and contrast

[prime musk]

with lower shadow detail and fog settings it obscures what is far away MUCH more effectively

[ripe hamlet]

low shadow resolution and quality be like:

shadow actually a real threat now

[safe cradle]

Fog's on medium, Shadow res on VH and quality on H, SSAO on medium

[prime musk]

forget about framerate and try maxing it out and see how it looks

[ripe hamlet]

or just good old increasing your monitor brightness

[safe cradle]

It's certanly slightly better

For some reason putting Anisotrophy on also helps

Yeah nah to ignore the darkness it really needs either Nvidia's details filter (which makes my GPU sound like a Jet) or manually pump up brightness/contrast and things like that

which would also mean I'd have to reset it everytime I dont want to play GTFO and fuck that shit

anyway, thanks zed

I think what really hurts is the environment fog btw

[ripe hamlet]

dont nvidia have driver interface like amd adrenalin?

you should be able to customise the brightness and contrast per software there

[safe cradle]

I've noticed it that in any game as soon as I put the nvidia overlay up my GPU goes overdrive

It doesn't hurt framerates but it starts pulling Watts like a Missile Cruiser engine for some reason

I've that with the map in GTFO too

I open it and GPU goes crazy

[ripe hamlet]

F

[safe cradle]

I've asked for that around and most I got were some "I never noticed"

Ironically, if it's a glitch, it survived a format and like 2 game reinstalls

[ripe hamlet]

are you sure you arent enabling some pretty-picture optimisation that will overwrite the default one

[safe cradle]

Absolutely no, I've all filters and shit like that off

I also tried removing steam overlay and it still did

I do not mind

I rarely keep map open for hours

[fathom ice]

can you make a settings guide

i need one

[ripe hamlet]

lowest fov, no held object inertia

[normal granite]

they do, but it isnt as good imo

[prime musk]

sky i am not qualified to make a guide about ANYTHING in this game

i could make an inting guide maybe

[fathom ice]

ишп

big

[hard nexus]

Хел дробовик плохо

[eager jungle]

How does the c foam portion booster work exactly

[ripe hamlet]

more efficient when you charge

for example if you shoot 8 blobs without booster youll use up 8 ammo but if you have a booster you might only use up only 6 ammo

[eager jungle]

Okay cool

[ripe hamlet]

dont shoot a single blob however as the booster is terribly designed and will not help at all

it only reduce when shot in burst

[eager jungle]

Yeah that makes sense

It still needed the same amount of charge to reinforce so I figured it was something of the sort

Or something stupid and useless like larger globs of it lmao

Another thing, could I theoretically downpatch and complete r6 missions to get the color palettes?

It pains me that Destination is unobtainable as of now

[digital mural]

Get the cosmetics unlock mod

[grizzled patrol]

no

[eager jungle]

I still wanna have normal progression for cosmetics tho

Tragic

[digital mural]

Then complete all levels and then use the mod

[eager jungle]

The day I get everything yeah

[digital mural]

You'll still be missing a couple cosmetics by the end of the game

[eager jungle]

It’ll be a reward for myself

[digital mural]

That's the fun part, you can't get every cosmetic available

There's not enough levels

[eager jungle]

well

Yknow what I mean

[gleaming saffron]

that's straight up sad

[eager jungle]

Makes me really happy that I have all 3 variations of the stupid fucking tardigrade helmet

As well as both of Hackett’s pineapples

Not the normal version though god no

[thick stump]

there are some limited cosmetics which were only available on specific events, you won't see them ever again without the mod

[eager jungle]

Yeah I know that

[digital mural]

You'll only be missing like 3 or 4 I believe

And there's a bunch of variants

So you'll probably get one of each part

[thick stump]

I missed the tiger mask 🥲

[eager jungle]

Woe, pineapples upon ye

[frail heart]

According to some testing someone did (i cant remember who), if you have any bold or aggressive cfoam portion booster on shooting 2 blobs at a time is the most efficient

[eager jungle]

God math is so funny

Doubly so with dyscalculia

[gleaming saffron]

triply so with disleksia

wait, no

[eager jungle]

I’m lucky enough to only have the one

Sucks though because I love breaking down and crunching numbers, knowing how things work behind the scenes to know what’s best

I’m just a little disabled at it

[gleaming saffron]

i'm sorry, i meant thislekseea

is algebra bad for you as well?
the one WITHOUT the numbers

i mean... technically, algebra also has numbers, like 2x or stuff like it

[ripe hamlet]

just learn category theory

no more number

[gleaming saffron]

don't do that, trust me, it's not that much easier

[eager jungle]

I struggle a lot with abstract equations and I’ll jumble numbers in my head

[gleaming saffron]

yeah, no category theory for you, then

like, "there is too much thought in my abstract" kind of thing

[eager jungle]

Really sucks when I’m trying to do terminal shit because I’ll confuse something like 328 for 382

[gleaming saffron]

it sure looks annoying

[eager jungle]

I can grasp the concepts but executing them correctly every time takes a while

I’d struggle with tests n shit in school due to time limits, my teachers would get frustrated because they could see I understood things and understood them well, but it took me forever to complete them

Always be caught up double and triple checking to make sure nothing got jumbled or lost along the way

I don’t have it too too bad, but bad enough it’s notable and been a frustration in my life

[eager jungle]

They’d conflate the little amount I got done with a lack of effort, when in actuality it took an immense amount

[gleaming saffron]

damn

good luck with your life, mate

[eager jungle]

I was an honors student and even on track to skip a few grades but home life became unstable and with that added pressure that fell right through, so anyways I’m a dropout lmao

this is gtfo related I swear, it’s why I’m shit at terminal

[eager jungle]

Appreciate it

Basically it’s the American education system’s fault I suck at uplinks

[gleaming saffron]

lol

the american education system is super scuffed, from what i know

like, if you score 75% out of 100% it's almost a D score!

[eager jungle]

oh it’s shit

The amount of money schools are given is based off the average scores of em, with higher performing ones being given more

All the people that don’t need help are given more, and the ones struggling are given less and less every year they struggle more and more, and it creates a snowball effect where the money is being wasted for diminishing returns where it’s unneeded and the struggling are left behind with garbage

It’s effectively made some schools educational penal colonies where if a kid is struggling at a good school, instead of giving them help and attention they’ll try and send them off to a worse one so they don’t bring the scores down

All the troublesome kids are sent with all the other troublesome ones and the root issues of why they’re struggling can’t be addressed, only exacerbated

Happened to a few of my pals when I was younger

Again this is 100% on topic, the American education system is why we wiped when I put in the wrong code at the uplink

[clever ice]

when is the best time to bring hel shotgun? and what is its range???

[thick stump]

hel shotgun is a very strong crowd control weapon, so any time where are a lot of enemies at the same time, like on surge waves

[carmine grotto]

if used correctly its great against enemies like moms for both damage and baby control, large groups of enemies being able to hit multiple at once. It has a fairly short range with a wide spread so the closer the the enemy, the better.

[sudden nexus]

hel shotty is good in every situation

even better as client

[clever ice]

thanks brothers

[gentle forge]

I was trying to follow the convo above about cosmetics - can someone summarize for me; is it possible to get all cosmetics, and if not, why? Are mods required to get some?

[safe cradle]

Long story short no because some were limited time (Tigris Mask was for Chinese New Year)

[gentle forge]

It’s possible to get this with a mod though?

[safe cradle]

No idea but I think yes?

I also dont know if cosmetics from OG R6 that were tied to sector completion (like "do all overload sectors" gave you the "overdrive palette") are in the single big pool the game picks from now.

[thick stump]

nope, there are too many cosmetics than missions + like Sleepo said, there are also limited ones

[thick stump]

they don't exist anymore, we don't get anything from secondary and overload missions anymore

[normal granite]

with a mod it is possible, but it just straight up gives you everything

[grizzled patrol]

more cosmetics than missions, some of them limited event drops

[thick stump]

ohh yeah, my bad, I misread his question

[gentle forge]

So basically you could play through the game then use the mod to get the limited stuff

If you want to follow normal progression

[normal granite]

yeah thats what i did

[thick stump]

you don't see your character ingame anyways, so I don't really care much

[grizzled patrol]

not when it comes to torso

[safe cradle]

Yeah I know you dont anymore, I'm just wondering if they got added to the prize pool or are just straight inaccessible unless you had them before or you use some mod or whatever

[gentle forge]

And when you use the mod, does it unlock the cosmetics to your account? In other words you don’t need the mod anymore after you unlock them?

[normal granite]

i just like the drip in the loadout menu

[normal granite]

yeah

[grizzled patrol]

you do. it doesnt unlock for the account. It just makes them usable even though they are locked

[thick stump]

I don't think so, because I haven't got a single palette from the secondary and overload list

[digital mural]

You'll always need the mod

[gentle forge]

Ah

[digital mural]

It doesn't "unlock" it

You are just able to use them

[normal granite]

guess im remembering wrong then

[gentle forge]

10C should just give everyone the cosmetics at this point

[grizzled patrol]

funny thing is that it allows access to some cut stuff aswell

[normal granite]

or do what deep rock galactic does and make it so they re release it every year around that events time

[gentle forge]

That too

[thick stump]

I don't even understand why they even removed the palettes as secondary and overload rewards

[grizzled patrol]

too much work ig

[safe cradle]

They should just run a check that sees if you've the "Sum Total" achievement and if it's there give you ALL cosmetics and that's it

[gentle forge]

Is that basically the achievement for getting all achievements?

[safe cradle]

To avoid fucking up, then they fucked up anyway twice with release of Alt R4 and Alt R5 cosmetics being glitched

[digital mural]

Not enough budget

[safe cradle]

You get that if you have all sectors of all levels

[thick stump]

ohh, so they just gave up xD

[normal granite]

completing all levels and optionals

including PE iirc

[safe cradle]

eh consider that the "time limited" cosmetics were just given as soon as you finished 1 level

Even for cases that had multiple rewards IIRC

[normal granite]

hmm yeah it does just say all sectors

probably safe to assume PE

[ocean spindle]

yes

it be

theres achievements for all main second and ovs too

[thick stump]

I know that and I can understand because they were limited but the rewards for secondary and overload was removed which is kinda sad

[normal granite]

idk cos i did everything with PE or nothing

[safe cradle]

It is what it is, consider that people called Lugubrious the "flex palette"

from the notorious "pink suit man" or "tampoon man"

To refer to people who got that and felt the need to boss you around

[normal granite]

there should be a secret palette for r8e2 main only

[safe cradle]

Uselessly so because Ext of OG R6 meant that getting Lugubrious was much easier because it was tied to number of Main completions

[thick stump]

ohh, I haven't known that, but those who already had them, can they still use them or was that also removed?

[safe cradle]

yes

I've Lugubrious, Overdrive, Twin Blade mask

And some other limited reward thingy

Like the backpack that looks like you're doing cringe cosplay of Ghostbusters but want Solar Panels too

To be honest, modern cosmetics look cooler

[thick stump]

true, some are looking really good, but I would like the tigris mask and the lugubrious palette

[uneven kiln]

100% agree

this is a lot of cosmetics for players that started after November 3rd 2023 that can never be obtained

[gentle forge]

Is it possible to display per-player kill stats on the end game screen similar to the accuracy mod? Or can I do that with hikaria’s accuracy mod itself?

It’d be cool to see per-player kill stats similar to how the replay mod does it, but on the end screen

[winter breach]

Thankfully mods exist

But im not sure if they have all of the cosmetics

[timber shoal]

im going insane

frosty

stop 😭

[vestal crest]

Does anyone know if hsu spawns are set? Like does every mission with an hsu objective have the exact same locations for hsu’s each time? I know the specific hsu you need is random each time

I just did an r3c1 run where the objective hsu in zone 17 didn’t appear to exist (or at least we spent all our resources looking for it after we pinged it and still couldn’t find it in zone C). I kinda want to find out where it was, if it isn’t randomly generated

[burnt inlet]

Hsu spawns are set in a way where objective hsu spawns can be like 10-100 locations, some of these are weighted and may have a 1/10 chance even though there’s close to 20 hsu’s, the optimal hsu for R1A1 is a 1/1000 chance iirc ( @frail heart )

[burnt inlet]

It’s randomly generated from a bunch of places, if you didn’t find it it was prolly obscured well, R3C1 has been known to cause issues considering it’s a error that scales up with time

[vestal crest]

So do hsu locations change from mission to mission (all hsu’s, not just the objective one)

[burnt inlet]

They may since not all hsu spots will be taken

Let’s say a level has 100 available, 50 might only spawn

At least that’s how I’ve interpreted it

I actually have no clue on that part

[vestal crest]

Ah ok. I kinda wish it was set so I could figure out where it was easily. I’ve never had an hsu stay hidden even after a ping with a person in the room

[burnt inlet]

🤷‍♂️could be literally anything honestly lol

But theres prolly a mod which spawns all of them, i know theres a mod for spawning all boxes

What you could do is drop in with cconsole and fly around with Fulbright in the general area

[vestal crest]

Is there a guide on how to do that? I’ve never played around with the console

[burnt inlet]

Cconsole? You just download R2modman then cconsole in R2modman and type in ”noclip” into the cconsole terminal

Note: it’s cconsole and not terminal

[vestal crest]

Ah ok i might try that. Thanks!

[burnt inlet]

🫡

[frail heart]

Possible hsu spawns work the same as big pickups I’m pretty sure, so max 5 in one room

[burnt inlet]

Was the R1A1 number correct lol?

[frail heart]

@little pilot knows exactly

[frail heart]

It’s a bit less but around that

[burnt inlet]

Meh close enough

[frail heart]

0.769%

[burnt inlet]

8/1000

Damn I was 8x off😔

[little pilot]

This is not true partially. They are not the same as big pickups as r3c1 zone 17/20 I don't remember which one has 6 hsu spawns in A

[frail heart]

Gulp

[little pilot]

And I don't know if the number of HSU spawns per area is limited by the area size itself

It might just be limited by the number of valid spawn markers in the room

Which I think varies from room to room

[safe cradle]

I think it's 17

20 is the zone with no doors

[safe cradle]

@hollow pollen You're kidding, but there's people that actually believe that

[hollow pollen]

true

that's why I said it

[burnt inlet]

böh

[safe cradle]

What's the chances this 4th guy nyx has cheat mods?

[burnt inlet]

dont think so

[safe cradle]

I'll rate it a 50/50

[burnt inlet]

higher chance of being 🏴‍☠️

[keen seal]

why are we talking in #gtfo-related-questions

[safe cradle]

you jest but yeah

[safe cradle]

noone reads here

[burnt inlet]

taking a while to get into lobby

[safe cradle]

In fact, I dont either, I'm not having any conversation

This is all in your head

[hollow pollen]

high

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bounce-rapidly-declining-mental-function-mental-health-gif-13676151581294124571

[hollow pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1197273571077128373.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Plink

guys is LadderFoamFix a cheat mod

[burnt inlet]

no mod list so i cant see his mods

[safe cradle]

I should install that but I get a kick out of telling people not to take foam

[hollow pollen]

true

my argument being; you're giving the enemies an unfair advantage

[safe cradle]

I dont install silent shot fix because I know some day I'll get someone that silent shots a room like R6D2 cscout room and wake it all up

And he'll wonder why it didnt work

[burnt inlet]

it like barely works though

[hollow pollen]

I remember specifically like 1 or 2 times where I tried to tell someone that the level is less fun with it and that it's not as consistent as just 3 turrets because later on you gotta set it up, etc. etc. but they just didn't budge lol

[burnt inlet]

i think its swapping weapons it fixes

nothing else

[hollow pollen]

I mainly use it because I silent shoot on accident a lotta the time when I mean to actually wake up a room

think the only time silent shooting is funny is the R7D2 scout room

I do wonder how much less effective foam is with ladderfoamfix, haven't tried it yet

[tardy ingot]

the crazy thing will always be that ladderfoam is done in an insanely inefficent manner by the majority

[hollow pollen]

you just put several single blobs on the ladder and then keep foaming them until they're big, right?

at least me thinks

haven't done ladderfoam in so long

[safe cradle]

I think yeah

[tardy ingot]

height of blobs
Amount of blobs
and amount of foam per blob

heavily changes how much it does

(The foam limit of a singular blob aside)

this obviously matters less if you use a fuck ton of foam

but with say 60-100% there can be noticeable differences

depending on setup

[hollow pollen]

wdym by height?

[tardy ingot]

on the ladder

[hollow pollen]

yeah obviously but how does it affect how effective it is

[tardy ingot]

depends on if they go up or down obviously

[tardy ingot]

Due to how enemies move on ladders

[hollow pollen]

doesn't 1 just get stuck from foam and the rest can't jump up or down?

[tardy ingot]

thats optimal

But realistically you get more on the ladder

A lot goes into it

They can be foamed but still get through depending on placement

[hollow pollen]

I'm guessing you put foam further up if they jump down or further down if they jump up? (so it's more likely just one or a few get stuck and the rest can't go)

[tardy ingot]

or others can start going into it and touch foam too

gotta be wary of the „waiting“ ones not touching blobs

So not too close to ladder entrance

also not immediatly after jumping, they may move past

[hollow pollen]

yee

[tardy ingot]

end of ladder isnt perfect either as they can get through

usually I did math with 2, max 3 blobs

Ranging from 30% to 60%

[hollow pollen]

idk where the most efficient spot for the long ladder in R2E1 would be then

'cuz when you're up it's hard to put it anywhere but at the very top

[tardy ingot]

one on the upper half of the ladder
one middle

for 2 blobs

the issue usually is people spraying tho

[hollow pollen]

true

[tardy ingot]

and thus getting no bubble

they only freeze if they touch the foam
So they just jump past if its not big enough

[hollow pollen]

I should just watch a speedrun video to see...

this is definitely information I will use ||(to reinforce my opinion that ladderfoam is boring)||

obviously in a speedrun it's a different story since you're just using what you've been given

[tardy ingot]

tbf in a speedrun its also just minimalised usually

[hollow pollen]

oh I didn't know on the big ladder you can hug the wall there

[tardy ingot]

I think the most optimized ladderfoam start is r5c1

[hollow pollen]

WR on R2E1 is without ladderfoam right? lol

[tardy ingot]

r2e1 doesnt use ladderfoam anymore ye

[hollow pollen]

based

and epic even

is it just because turrets are more consistent and require less setup?

[tardy ingot]

hel auto sentry

go brrr

[hollow pollen]

that too

[tardy ingot]

also dunno
I havent played r2e1 speeds since 2023

[hollow pollen]

Hel Auto my beloved

[ripe hamlet]

ladderfoam guide when

[hollow pollen]

doorbug guide when

[tardy ingot]

check out r5c1 though cat

[hollow pollen]

R5C1 speed uses ladderfoam?

[tardy ingot]

thats ladderfoam central

[hollow pollen]

intriguing...

[tardy ingot]

(R5D1 does too, but in a very small manner, R5C1 depends on it heavily)

[tardy ingot]

Those do exist

https://youtu.be/KzpdP6gwnGw?si=1L0vViyzbjht2TIr

We are likely gonna beat this sometime soon. The resetting for cell was horrible (since you needed to do the full alarm and then check, as there was no term in starting zone)

Optimal strat is also 4 foam launchers

[hollow pollen]

only one I've seen was the last video someone made because they were fed up with GTFO

and just told people to use it in every pub lobby

[hollow pollen]

OH RIGHT THAT LEVEL

I remember the ladderfoam at the start specifically yeah

omfg you're running 3 launchers 🤣

[hollow pollen]

I mean yeah what is info worth if you can just get everything stuck instead lol

[tardy ingot]

Void iirc included it in the speedrun guides (which should be linked in tips/tricks/exploits and glitches spreadsheet

[tardy ingot]

4 is meta (we just didnt get a better run with it and decided to go to the next level after like 4 hours)

[tardy ingot]

Its so stupid lol

We ladderfoam start (melee stragglers, kill wave once finished)

We ladderfoam 1st uplink (and door foam if necessary)

we then kill that on s scan

We then foam the last uplink

[burnt inlet]

duo with bots any special strats for R5B1 PE?

[tardy ingot]

Well thats also the reason r5c1 medals are more lenient

[tardy ingot]

Guns for reactor

its the only challenging part

[safe cradle]

I remember holding down the waves with HEL PP+ HEL Rifle

while simon had... cant remember

BC I think

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle/gun/burst cannon

go brrr

[safe cradle]

We weren't with bots but 2 pugs

that were kinda bots

[little pilot]

fun fact: i managed to get r5c1 to work with foresight so now we might go back to it to get the 4 foam strat to work

[burnt inlet]

any special spot in reactor?

[hollow pollen]

Burp Cannon my beloved

[tardy ingot]

I said that earlier

[safe cradle]

Right side of the sec door that watches into the bridge

[burnt inlet]

so no scatter?

[safe cradle]

I'm shit at explaining places

[tardy ingot]

R5C1 and R5D1 truly have the worst cell rng checks…

[burnt inlet]

na i get wehre you mean

[little pilot]

rn i am in the processing of mapping r7d2

cause apparently

this is not that hard

so r7d2 might become a very low rng level now

(only a 50/50 on terminal password)

[burnt inlet]

we have bots on br bc and dodo usually takes hel rifle, ive been doing both hel rifle and scatter sometimes

[hollow pollen]

I love gambling

[hollow pollen]

I CAST TRIPLE BURST STRAIGHT INTO YOUR BACK

[tardy ingot]

Youd love (hate) R8B3 then

[hollow pollen]

the one where you gotta get 4 codes from 3 different doors?

[tardy ingot]

„4“

[hollow pollen]

yeah I have experience with guessing the password...

[tardy ingot]

more like 1

[hollow pollen]

LOL

[tardy ingot]

we cant full guess

[hollow pollen]

is that what the speed does?

[tardy ingot]

but it gives us 1/4

[little pilot]

yep

[tardy ingot]

Yep

[hollow pollen]

LMAO

[tardy ingot]

and you get 3 guesses roughly before you lose time

[little pilot]

1 letter guess into doing uplink with error + uplink enemies

[hollow pollen]

guessing cancelling the uplink with the error disable in the second north zone would be disallowed right?

[tardy ingot]

No it is

But its slow

so we dont do it

[hollow pollen]

hm

[tardy ingot]

(Its a teamscan)

to get there

[hollow pollen]

ah right

[tardy ingot]

Shooting error + uplink isnt actually hard

its that 2 people run off to extract

so 1 person defends

[hollow pollen]

waves still get split between players tho, right?

it's the only uplink I can think of that spawns stuff outside the zone of where the terminal is

[tardy ingot]

Its rng

[tardy ingot]

R7C3 technically (and all duals but those work differently anyway)

[hollow pollen]

oh yeah true

Overload uplink

[tardy ingot]

nono

The main one

Ovl is a dual

[full stream]

how much stagger hp health does the hel shotgun do

ik the hel auto pistol is 1.5 x 5 i think?

[thick stump]

hel shotgun has a stagger multiplier of 2 and hel auto pistol of 5

[full stream]

ok so then it would technically be 13.36 x 2 then

bc its based on dmg then times stager multiplier right?

(if you technically hit every bullet)

oh ok, so I did remember correctly then

[ocean spindle]

lotta big stagger :3

gaming stagger

staggers u

[past mesa]

Staggger damage also is impacted by back damage and headshots

[prime ore]

What are best reactor weapons?

I am doing R2D2 and I def won't do it with dogs so I wanna know generally best weapons

For R2D2 sniper turrets worked alot

[ocean spindle]

about the usual guns that are good anywhere else

maybs a lil longer ranges but thats dependant on how comfy u are with that

cuz u can still play short range guns on big hallways as long as u know how to

[prime ore]

Asking cuz there is this like huge bridge part and if we all bring long ranged weapons everything should be mostly fine

But also in between thsre are like stealth parts so if something goes to shit stuff like shotguns are good

So I just have no idea

Maybe 1 guy just runs scatter and everyone else runs prec rifles and hel rifles

[digital mural]

Hel revo + hel rifle all team

Ez game

[prime ore]

Why hel revo?

[ocean spindle]

lomg range gaming kdmsk

[prime ore]

For me hel revo seems kinda ass just cuz base revolver 1 shots sleepers on head

[ocean spindle]

u can pull rooms and hold a bit far if needed or closer if short guns

[digital mural]

Hel revo is one of the best guns in the game

[ocean spindle]

its a main u gotta take that into account

[digital mural]

Pen, stagger and good damage

[ocean spindle]

special revo of vourse cuz its a special

[digital mural]

Spwecial

[prime ore]

Base revolver feels too based

[ocean spindle]

spwewial :3

[prime ore]

Why does it have so much ammo its so good

[ocean spindle]

cuz its ass against bigs

🔥

[digital mural]

You can also try hel rifle main and revo special

[ocean spindle]

thats why it has ammo kdnskdm

[prime ore]

Never thought some pistols would be so good in this game lowkey

[digital mural]

(revolvers are not pistols)

[prime ore]

Hel autopistol is based too

[tardy ingot]

the revolver is a special weapon

the hel revolver is a main weapon
the hel revolver is a top 3 main

the revolver is a mid-ish tier special weapon that falls of quite quickly into chargers and other non-small enemies

[prime ore]

Never found a good use for hel revo really cuz I've played like 2 levels with charger enemies so far

I have no idea what bianhua has

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle (and with aim hel gun)
burst cannon is also good

for mains its hel revo if you value the range. Carbine is completely fine too for that

if you can play around the shorter range, sawed off shotgun will be best pick

[digital mural]

bianhua is a special boss enemy

[tardy ingot]

hel revo is better into smalls than chargers (its also good against chargers tho for a main)

it 2 taps smalls and has pen

[prime ore]

I forgot this game gets funny with enemies

Didn't except two different bosses in R3

[digital mural]

||It's like a big hybrid like enemy||

[prime ore]

I did use carbine for first R2D2 try and it performed well

[neat vapor]

its the second best against chargers right

[tardy ingot]

depends on how realistic you wanna be for the guns

[neat vapor]

how so

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/valheim-mistland-silent-hill-fog-the-fog-is-coming-gif-7983356695668274203

I hate how R2 has no new enemies and it's just

The fog

[tiny wyvern]

Accuracy I think?

[tardy ingot]

hel revo ideal is 4 shot and pen

sawed off is 1 shot (which needs all dmg to hit)

hel shotgun can go weird. but more realistic is all hit plus pen (already mighty unrealistic for the dmg value)

[tardy ingot]

it does have new enemies

well one of them got added to rundown 1 (hybrids) with alt rundowns

[neat vapor]

so realistically its sawed off as the best one followed by hel revo

[tardy ingot]

yes

hel shotty can do more in a clutch

slug actually is quite good into chargers (not ass woooh)

[neat vapor]

i hate this main so much why is it the best against everything except like babies and flyers

[prime ore]

I haven't played cribs so maybe something funny will pop up then

[tardy ingot]

which?

[tiny wyvern]

Which one

[prime ore]

I am still missing R2C2

[tiny wyvern]

Hel pis?

[prime ore]

I gotta bring the boys for that

[neat vapor]

sawed off

[tardy ingot]

fun fact

[tiny wyvern]

Huh?

[tardy ingot]

sawed off is insane into babies

and quite good into flyers

[digital mural]

Use slug for fliers :3

[neat vapor]

ik its good into both but its not the best

[prime ore]

Slug isn't too shit of a weapon

Its not that bad

[tiny wyvern]

Use slug like high cal but worse

And usually you win

....Usually

[tardy ingot]

unironically sawed off is probably the best anti birth main after hel shotty

[prime ore]

Slug high cal combo

[tardy ingot]

and into flyers its like top 5 at worst (slug is 1st)

[tiny wyvern]

Unless the spread says you missed it

[prime ore]

Wait hel shotgun has like piercing shots right?

[tardy ingot]

slug has no spread

[tiny wyvern]

ye

[tardy ingot]

yes

[tiny wyvern]

No sawed off

[prime ore]

Can you like lit kill the babies from behind of mother and still deal shit ton of damage?

[prime ore]

"shotgun" btw

[tardy ingot]

issue is that enemies can "eat" the pen shot

[tiny wyvern]

Sort of
It just kills babies while you deal damage to mom

afaik it's not efficient damage on mom

[tardy ingot]

realistically you just nuke mom with scatter

[prime ore]

Also I wanted to ask

[tardy ingot]

and if needed someone kills babies with hel shotty

[prime ore]

Is like mothers weak point her back right?

[tiny wyvern]

Or hel pis if you're in a pinch

[prime ore]

Or her like lil bubbles

[tiny wyvern]

Bubbles

No back multi tho

[digital mural]

The massive bubbles that break after being shot? Idk

[tiny wyvern]

Nah only bubbles

back don't do anything

[prime ore]

So no point shooting her in the front at all unless you wanna deal with babies

[neat vapor]

"slug"

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[digital mural]

You do very little damage if you shoot anything that isn't the bubbles

Special enemies have armor

And big damage reduction

[neat vapor]

correct me on the 0 count but its like 0.0001% right

[prime ore]

So the base strat is literally just chase her

[tardy ingot]

well the armor has dmg reduction

[prime ore]

And try get her from the back

[tardy ingot]

its not like they have armor

AND dmg reduction

[tiny wyvern]

It gets rounded down to 0

I think?

[digital mural]

I call it "armor"

Because well

[tardy ingot]

depends on the armor/enemy

[digital mural]

Armor makes you stronger?

I think

Probably

[tardy ingot]

mom armor is 0.001 iirc (so 0.1%)

[tiny wyvern]

I still find it funny that Pablo has stagger damage
Even though you should never be able to find out he has that

[tardy ingot]

no need to chase, just kill during birth usually (or before)

[prime ore]

So she just takes 0 dmg don't even bother interesting

[digital mural]

I think in the case of the mother it doesn't
You can kill her by hitting the body

[neat vapor]

probably just needs one to function

[prime ore]

She doesn't insta spawn enemies when she wakes up?

[neat vapor]

its line of sight based

[tiny wyvern]

On scream

[tardy ingot]

dmg only gets rounded to 0 if its low enough. dunno if that applies to mom etc

it does to ||pablo|| tho

[tiny wyvern]

Like the really horrible scream

[tardy ingot]

oh nono, you are 100% correct with calling it armor

it was just funny seeing you say that they have armor AND dmg reduction

[prime ore]

Yeah this enemy makes such horrifying screams

But then sometimes she jsut starts skedaddling

It looks kinda goofy

[tardy ingot]

she needs line of sight

she needs to decide to birth (and not spew fog or scream)

and she stands still when birthing (unless you stagger her right at the start of a birth)