gtfo-related-questions

[frail heart]

pub

[burnt inlet]

id verify your E2 solo run

trollface

[frail heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416907525460590593/1412094349831045130/super_logger_jarvis.gif

[burnt inlet]

actually fire ngl

@low radish happy belated and happy birtday

forgor to say for a couple of days

[low radish]

It passed but thank you

[burnt inlet]

its not every day your birthday is every day

[safe cradle]

mods in mmos used to get benefits

not entirely sure what/if it's the same (I'd suppose this servers admins got something, maybe the game for free?)

[frail heart]

Speedrun communities are always community run

In fact, speedrun.com doesnt allow/want devs to be apart of the teams

Its all volunteer work

No one gets anything apart from helping the community, which is what these people want to do

[civic wave]

was it riemann who said mods were paid

[frail heart]

ye

[unreal gazelle]

... the bastard...

maybe i will kill him if i get my hands on him

[burnt inlet]

What happens if both goats are in the same room at the same time?

Will time and space implode?

[ripe hamlet]

they will enter a death battle because there can only one THE GOAT

but youve never seen them in the same room havent you

curious

[burnt inlet]

Nope

[unreal gazelle]

one goat fronts, the other goat hides

it depends if a cuter goat or more menacing goat is needed!

[burnt inlet]

i think i could tell which is which

[low radish]

In R8C1 overload. What's the chance of the same terminal being picked 3 times in a row?

[frail heart]

1/16

[crystal blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-react-this-user-pregnant-man-gif-7314513712895381143

[low radish]

oh i see

[full stream]

For the biotracker achievement, is it easy for you to do it with 3 other people or just with bots that all have bio tracker?

[ocean spindle]

people cuz need to waken enemies

[keen seal]

can't really control what the bots shoot

[ocean spindle]

and bots shoot before they ping sometomrs

[lone mortar]

u can

just code better smh

[winter breach]

just get better bots

easiest thing you could ever do

[grizzled patrol]

just get real™ bots with #lfg-beginners

[winter breach]

nah i dont like the ones that speak "this game is too easy"

even if they die a lot of times like i do on harder missions bc i never played them

they have to atleast be aware of if they are getting carried

which they do realise after a mission without hard carry

[normal granite]

So uh, in my winning run of r8c1 overload, that happened

Also frosty, i just realised who your pfp is since i started watching it 2 days ago lol

[digital mural]

Oh my god

Save yourself

Its still not too late

[normal granite]

Yeah i am literally just reading up on peoples thoughts of season 3 and 4

I just finished season 2 and i might drop it lmao

What ever happened to character development :(

[digital mural]

I like to hate on things as a joke most of the time

But I genuinely mean it this time

Don't bother with the anime or manga

Just don't

[normal granite]

Yeah i could tell i was losing interest around halfway through season 2

Season 1 was quite good tho

[past mesa]

Isn’t it 1/64

1/4 (1/4)1/4 assuming each terminal roll is independent of the last

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/alleged-allegedly-letter-kenny-squirrely-dan-gif-15003516

[tardy ingot]

thats for all inners no?

the question was just any 3 times in a row

[tardy ingot]

hence this being a 1/64 in the R8C1 run

we actually took just about that many attempts 💀

[frail heart]

Ye like Eva said if you care about what terminal it is then it’s a 1/64 but if you don’t care then it’s 1/16

[past mesa]

OH

I see

[frail heart]

was really waiting for them to start making out and shi when i was 15

[digital mural]

A 15 year old coming up with better plot than the actual autor

That btw, he doesn't want the protagonist to end up with the girl because he has a crush on her

I forgot her name

[frail heart]

Mizuhara

[upper ginkgo]

name one anime better than rental girlfriend (impossible)

[frail heart]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[whole nacelle]

anyone quickly tell me how to list loot in rooms with the terminal

thanks

[covert jay]

List U E_(zone number)

[winter breach]

Jjba

[safe cradle]

specific rooms is impossible, you can only list zones

[prime ore]

Evangelion

[frail heart]

not enough gooning sorry

[safe cradle]

What are the chances of getting cell in 598 and fog in 599 (or viceversa, with only 1 fog turb spawning) in R2E1?

Basically what are the chances you need to go to both.

I think I remember someone mentioning it happen once

[tardy ingot]

I dont think we know the chances of the bug happening

[safe cradle]

Also why didnt they just have fog turb spawn in 597 instead...

[patent mulch]

Isn’t there a turbine in 598 and 599?

[tardy ingot]

why did they have 2 side zones at all

[safe cradle]

There's a chance one doesn't spawn

Apparently not intended

Wait, scream from blood doors can target bots and nullify like any scream?

[tardy ingot]

its enemies that scream

the blood door itself doesnt wake up the room

[safe cradle]

I just never interpreted it that way

As in, never thought it'd work

Since I always assumed screams when entering a room adjactend to a player didnt have a target

and were just PBAoE noise

[tardy ingot]

huh?

[safe cradle]

I always interpreted scream targeting players as basically an attack directed to a specific target

And believed screams done when enemies enter rooms to be different

I didnt know it was basically all the same, apparently

[frail heart]

Yes

If a scream is targeted at a bot it wont wake rooms

afaik

[uneven kiln]

I’ve heard it’s somewhere close to around 1/30

Have also heard it can happen in R4C3 Sec

never had that one happen tho

The R2E1 absolutely happens though, your report makes it the 4th one I’ve seen

Thankfully you can query in starting zone at least (which I do as a ritual because it happened to me)

[normal granite]

tell that to the hospital scene

[safe cradle]

wait

I did NOT get it

I just wanted to know the chances so I could just LIST CELL E_599

instead of having to list that, then check for fog

[uneven kiln]

I see

[iron roost]

Whenever I see content of the game people only ever use the hammer or knife. What's wrong with the spear?

[digital mural]

Spear forces the player to play bad

It's slow, can't fast stealth, can't deal with awaken enemies, can't deal with more than 3 enemies without being guaranteed to be bit and has less damage than hammer

It forces the player to go SLOW

[iron roost]

That's a shame cause I like spears

I definitely was doing something wrong last night, but there were times when trying the hammer that I would hit enemies and they just wouldn't die and I'm not too sure why.

[digital mural]

All melees have a different hitbox
Hammer goes from top to bottom in a line

It can feel weird if you are used to spear but you can do so much more with hammer

The best way to use your melee is always aiming to the head

[iron roost]

I was using the knife before trying the hammer cause I found it reliably one shots the regular enemies to the head and it's a bit easier than the spear

I think maybe I was used to the faster charge time so I was swinging early with the hammer

And hten obviously didn't know the way it swings

[burnt inlet]

Vro has not seen R6D1 speeds

[iron roost]

what

[digital mural]

I swear GTFO players always manage to add Speedruns topics to any convo in any way

[iron roost]

I can barely do a normal run I ain't speedrunning

[timber shoal]

give it time

gtfo’s got a big ol learning curve and once you get off the ground you make progress more quickly than you’d think

[digital mural]

||learning to play fast and learning to speedrun are two totally different skills||

[iron roost]

We do play very slow

[timber shoal]

im more than aware

im saying that the fact that they’re struggling off the bat means nothing in the grand scheme of things assuming they stick with it

[burnt inlet]

I just like speeding

[upper ginkgo]

brainrot

[burnt inlet]

Playing fast becomes essential after R2 I’d say

[upper ginkgo]

probably a good idea to get a better understanding of stealth mechanics if you want to speed your gameplay up

i.e identifying safe kills, force aggroing to avoid long range aggros, double stealth killing

[iron roost]

One thing we didn't get last night. r1d1 the room with two scouts. We killed one and then it like alerted the other one and it screamed. Why's that?

[digital mural]

An enemy woke up

And alerted the room

[iron roost]

Okay

[upper ginkgo]

or you killed an enemy/scout too close to another scout

[iron roost]

We shot the first scout so it must have been a case of it being alerted by awake enemies

[timber shoal]

shooting wakes scouts lol

[digital mural]

You shot

My man

Bullets make sound when they go off you know

[iron roost]

As far as I knew the only way to trigger scouts was to attack them or walk into their tentacles

[digital mural]

No

Enemies screaming and bullets wake them up too

And also touching them

[iron roost]

I mean walking into a scout is a skill issue

They make so much noise

[digital mural]

The only sounds that don't wake them up is running/walking or jumping, that will only make them spread their tentacles

[iron roost]

Alright

[digital mural]

Happens more than you think

Especially when there's fog

[timber shoal]

if you try to melee but release your swing too late your body can collide with the scout’s right before the hit registers

[safe cradle]

I dont think that's 100% true

[timber shoal]

making them invulnerable and causing your melee to be fucked up

[digital mural]

Now that's a skill issue

[safe cradle]

I remember a conversation with someone who used data magic voodoo and found out hammer had both an architscanner component and a check

With the arc going first, then it checks the other

This was super old, like pre R6

so I dont know if that's still true

It does explain some "late" hits I can get very often even as host

I could remember wrong of course

[iron roost]

Do enemies like just keep spawning as long as the alarm is over, but the door hasn't been opened or is there like a time after the alarm is over they still spawn?

[safe cradle]

alarm over means no enemies spawn

[digital mural]

They will keep spawning as long as the alarm is on

[safe cradle]

but they might have spawned in Alabama

So they take time to reach you

[iron roost]

Well on r1d1 it's like the first door they can only spawn in the one long room

[safe cradle]

They spawn pretty far

unless you get to the catwalk for some reason that fucks them up

But the point is that they probably took their sweet ass time

[burnt inlet]

they can also get stuck and then unstuck themselves

[safe cradle]

This is extremely common on some maps, R2D1, R1B2...

[timber shoal]

:3

cuddling scout >>>>

[uneven kiln]

Usually only happens if you get close

If not running EAF + SEF

[iron roost]

Alright

It does feel kinda bs that scouts just get to go invinicble but I get that like in the time it takes them to scream you could always just kill them even if you mess up.

[uneven kiln]

yes

also there’s a reason they go invincible

[burnt inlet]

oh youll have much more bs lmao

[uneven kiln]

If they didn’t it messes up the sound the rest of the game

[digital mural]

Spaghetti code??????

[uneven kiln]

Yes

[digital mural]

Yipeeeeee

The only time they don't go invincible directly is when they get staggered btw

[timber shoal]

its punishing but scouts are probably the best designed enemy in the game

[digital mural]

Spitters >

Pablo >

[iron roost]

The hybrids suck a lot

[digital mural]

BBCs >>>>>

[uneven kiln]

The reason the Snatcher is immune to C Foam is because if it isn’t, the animations don’t work correctly

[timber shoal]

if you could just kill them after they were alerted they;d be pathetically easy to deal with

[timber shoal]

🤤

[timber shoal]

hybrids are one of my personal least favorite enemies

[iron roost]

I think it was r1c1, the wave defence.

[timber shoal]

yep

don’t worry

[iron roost]

That was like shit from a butthole when the hybrids start coming in

[timber shoal]

they’re prevalent through all kinds of levels

:3

r2 my beloved

[iron roost]

The first mission of r2 was like the first mission me and friend played a few years ago when the rundowns were all different

Where you have the thing you carry through the level

[timber shoal]

first mission of r2’s very straightforward

after that though

that’s where things start to pick up

[iron roost]

Now this is where the true dark souls begins

[timber shoal]

r1 is just the tutorial

[digital mural]

I honestly had less trouble playing dark souls than this game

[timber shoal]

the real tutorial

[digital mural]

Lol

[timber shoal]

understandable

[burnt inlet]

reactor level yummers

[burnt inlet]

what about R8A2 sec?

[digital mural]

Tutorial³

[burnt inlet]

³Tutorial*

(those who snow 💀 )

[winter breach]

The secret room 💀

[burnt inlet]

the log 💀

[normal granite]

Easiest level in the game

Suuurely

[burnt inlet]

defo

[normal granite]

Wonder if anyone has done it solo

[burnt inlet]

didnt find anything on src

[gentle forge]

Can two people snipe two scouts at the same time without alerting the other? How close together do the shots have to be if so?

[thick stump]

yup and under 1 second, maybe half a second or something (it is rng if it is 0.25 or 0.5 seconds)

but I recommend using cfoam and melee one scout because I think you are talking about charger scouts, right?

[ocean spindle]

sometimes it can just mean normal scouts

[thick stump]

but who wants to shoot normal scouts? 🤔

[ocean spindle]

newies or people who dont know u can melee then

[thick stump]

yeah that's true, I see that too many times

[grizzled patrol]

When the room is packed af

Sometimes its faster to Shoot it than to fuck around the bush

[digital mural]

Sometimes it's better to shoot a scout and deal with the room than fucking up stealth and dealing with scout wave + room

[thick stump]

yeah that's true

especially shadows, I rather wake up the room and scout before taking 1h to melee all of them

[grizzled patrol]

why tf can you message in the Hybrid vc but not in the others lmao

[ocean spindle]

hy-brids

its all connected

[safe cradle]

Even cscouts I think you can

[gentle forge]

Esp on r2d2 for example

[gentle forge]

Actually just regular scouts, but I guess the question can apply to any scout variant.

But speaking of charger scouts, can they be one shot with the same weapons as a regular scout? Which iirc are the sniper, high cal, hel rifle, burst cannon, revolver (from the back of the head only?), am I forgetting any?

[ocean spindle]

the guns that u need occi cant, unlss u hard spam it but thats way too dangerous

cscouts have 60 hp, so any gun that has 30 dmg or above can oneshot

high cal sniper hel rifle burst cannon- yes

etc etc

[thick stump]

they have more hp and doesn't have a weakpoint on their head, so only back works, so like slendo said, high cal, hel rifle, burst cannon are working and also chok mod shotgun and scattergun

[gentle forge]

Ah yeah forgot about choke mod and scatter. What about the regular shotgun if you put it up in their grill?

[patent mulch]

yes, i am the dedicated cscout killer for my squad and i almost always run shotgun

you just have to be on their ass

[ripe hamlet]

im pretty sure you can two shot them with hel gun in the back

burst cannon can oneshot it in the front also

shotgun would need to be in the back

[patent mulch]

also if you miss even 1 shotgun pellet you dont kill

[strange rover]

just curious but is it (probably only with cheating, not planning to actually use it for a completion) technically possible to kill the immortal in r7e1 or r8a2 sec and does it have some sort of death / despawn animation after dying at all?

or can it only be "killed" by straight up removing it from the mission with some sort of external command?

[patent mulch]

i think it has like 1 billion hp and the armor isn't litterally 0x so you could technically melee it and it would eventually die, might be a bit quicker to just finish the mission or reach the point where he gets despawned

[strange rover]

we did in fact beat the mission a couple of days ago, was just wondering if you could theoretically do it cause there is no video or anything like that of someone doing it which kinda surprised me

[ocean spindle]

dies as same as any other eneemies

ragdoll, tank dying sound i think and fall over

or maybe silnt death

[strange rover]

ah okay

is there a video of someone doing it by any chance?

[ocean spindle]

uh dont think so but u can probs mod an enemy same as it but 1 hp

but idk why u would wanna see it ksks

there was also a while an immortal spawnd in a wrong zone but with 1 hp

but it got fdixed

[patent mulch]

pablo jumpscare

[strange rover]

hm okay thats interesting

also speaking of spawns in this level, where exactly is the p-mom located in the respawn zones?

cause in all of our attempts when going through those (happened quite often) we never even saw her and even when we screwed up stealthing a couple of times she just never showed up

does she spawn in some seperated room?

[ocean spindle]

just around 452, in som room

its a normal spawn not a fixed positioon one i tthink

also she can just despawn forever sometimes

[gentle forge]

So you can literally have 0.25 seconds after killing one scout before the second one gets alerted?

[ocean spindle]

shooting yes

thats why usually other strats are used

[gentle forge]

If you use the voice line to synchronize, like the “3 2 1 go”, do both players hear it at the exact same time? I know that with voice chat (like actually talking on discord) there’s enough delay that it might cause the shots to be too far apart, but I wonder how synchronized the prerecorded lines are when you use them

[digital mural]

Discord delay shouldn't be too bad for that

[thick stump]

I tried it with a friend and it worked pretty well, it is still kinda tricky because half a second is not much

[digital mural]

I never had a problem with it when synchronizing scout kills

[digital mural]

It's half of half a second actually 🤓

[ocean spindle]

clients hitting first do allow the host to hit a smidge later cuz of that natural delay

but still shouldnt be too bad but need practice

[gentle forge]

Yeah so maybe just waiting until you hear the client’s shot (if you’re host) then immediately firing might be good enough

[thick stump]

isn't it random between 0.25 and 0.5?

[tardy ingot]

@patent mulch
To elaborate

Pablo cant die in normal gameplay since the armor it has rounds all dmg to 0

Youd need some incredible cheated dmg increases (through cheated boosters or straight up modifying stuff) to dmg it

The time where it remained after teleporting it basically just updated hp to 0 = dead

[digital mural]

Tldr: no

[winter breach]

The death isnt even interesting at all

I killed him with hacks once but during r7

He had no death sound

And he fell on the floor like a tank with less funny physics

[ocean spindle]

knew it

[digital mural]

Cheater

[winter breach]

Yes

I bought the game so i can do whatever i want to

Without ruining others experience

[digital mural]

Mods, send this guy to the complex

Without guns

[winter breach]

Too bad they havent found the stash

[wet bear]

Yes it has a unique "I spam your console with errors" on body disappear

Tbh game just does it on regular basis so It's not unique I guess

[tiny wyvern]

Does it like lag your game out

For instance when you do the funni in tutorial and get the lovely surprise

If you cheat them to death

Does the game even process taht

[wet bear]

That single instance no, but you can get your game lagging or enormous large log file if it increases speed or continuous for a prolonged time

1 Pablo body disappear is like idk 40 errors and it's really nothing

The null references just because or render errors take more of size of log or fps than a single Pablo body

Like there's a limit to how much shit game and user pc can handle but you won't reach it in vanilla or mods without trying to do it

[grizzled patrol]

Ngl it is kinda funny how you can Crash the Game Not only for you but your tm8s aswell by spamming Chat too hard

[wet bear]

You can just open a log file on terminal and if game almost at its limit it will crash and destroy lobby for everyone

[strange rover]

What surprise?

[burnt inlet]

Go into R8A2 sec and find out

[grizzled patrol]

open the secret door

[meager mortar]

are you able to magdump sawed off into charger scout's back fast enough to kill it w/o RNG?

[burnt inlet]

Iirc I’ve seen @frail heart

Do it

[digital mural]

only one shot is enough

But you know
Mag dumping is the safest bet

[burnt inlet]

Is it everything that can one tap chargers front on that one taps cscouts?

[meager mortar]

wouldn't it depend on the precision mult of the weapon? chargers have 30 hp, cscouts have 60, right?

[burnt inlet]

Back of the cscout deals 2X

[ripe hamlet]

1 shot to the back if all pellets hit

[tardy ingot]

back dmg doesnt use precision multi

[civic wave]

yeah, what they all said

1 shot kills with max back damage

but you can fire fast enough to get 2 shots and kill from front too

[strange rover]

i thought in the tutorial?

[burnt inlet]

it is the tutorial

[strange rover]

you mean the immortal then or what?

cause there are no other special doors in r8a2 secondary

[burnt inlet]

its the tutorial

[fathom ice]

its in the tutorial

[undone raven]

100% consistent

[strange rover]

can you open the door to zone 76 and onwards in the training normally?

or just with cheats

[digital mural]

Just with cheats

There isn't anything of note in there other than glowsticks

And the tank error surge alarm

[past mesa]

What is sawd off shot delay again tho

There could be a world in which it doesn’t work

[digital mural]

Malefic being good at the game

Unreal

[grizzled patrol]

i were shooting for like 5 mins, and it did work for me. maybe client can be another story

[past mesa]

Enough ping and everything cna break

[grizzled patrol]

0.25

[past mesa]

@minor fractal what is scout scream intervals range again

[grizzled patrol]

have we ever enen played together? we have to change that

[fathom ice]

.25 - .5

[past mesa]

00000 so a low enough roll breaks cilent every time

Crazy

Hugh enough roll and host can shoot 3 times

[fathom ice]

sawed off shotgun

[gentle forge]

Can you fire the sawed off shotgun as fast as you can click?

[grizzled patrol]

if you can do only 4 clicks per second, yes

[fathom ice]

you can do that with choke, short rifle and revo

[minor fractal]

No for all guns, but a few of them have very low shot delay

So, everything Sky listed

[winged thorn]

hey I'm new to this game but any advice on good guns or loadouts

or guns that should be avoided

[ocean spindle]

uhhhhhhh

lotta different answers, if u just wanna go like immediate meta or u wanna like experiment

on ur own accord

[minor fractal]

MAIN
Oppressive: Sawed-Off
Best-in-slot: HEL Shotgun / HEL Revo
Second-choice: Carbine / DMR / HEL Autopistol
Niche or Mediocre: DTR / PDW / Pistol / Slug Shotgun / Burst Rifle
Bad: Machine Pistol / Burst Pistol / Rifle
Excessively Bad: SMG / Heavy SMG / Bullpup
No Redeeming Qualities: Assault Rifle

SPECIAL
Oppressive: Scattergun
Best-in-slot: HEL Gun / HEL Rifle / Burst Cannon
Second-choice: Combat Shotgun / High-Cal / Shotgun
Niche or Mediocre: Revo / Sniper / Precision Rifle / Choke Mod
Bad: Short Rifle / Veruta
Excessively Bad: Arbalist / HAR

[ocean spindle]

nevermind

[winged thorn]

hhaha a professional here

[minor fractal]

Most of the best guns are hard to play, just be aware.

[ocean spindle]

lotta tierlists n stuff that there is but we all agree onabout the same kmskdm

in this case hes just, prepared

[winged thorn]

mmm so its like a choice between meta and what is easier to use

[ocean spindle]

more like

[minor fractal]

Loosely

[ocean spindle]

if u just wanna jump straightto meta

and forget everything else

i would say u have fun, and worry about meta whenustruggle HARD

but like struggle real bad

[winged thorn]

I dont really want to lock myself into meta just know what guns are more punishment then good

[winter breach]

Its good to use whatever suits you the best even if its veruta or some bad gun

If it fits you

Why not use it

[minor fractal]

Revo, SR, Slug, and DTR are kind of diffifcult to play, but aren't particularly exceptional (or are kind of bad).

[sudden nexus]

most full autos arent going to be as good as other weapons

[minor fractal]

Sawed-off and Scatter are very easy to play, and are incredibly overpowered

[winged thorn]

is it that autos arent ammo efficient?

[minor fractal]

The gunplay is also somewhat unintuitive at base, Carbine is probably the lowest skill floor.

[sudden nexus]

me when i use the braindead build (my entire playstyle is clicking on enemies close to me)

[minor fractal]

They're not efficient and have bad TTK.

TTK generally matters a bit more than eco, you get your eco by hitting shots.

[winged thorn]

mmm so high damage semi fire weapons outclass them a lot

[minor fractal]

Even on bad eco guns like DMR, if you are hitting two-shots on strikers consistently the ammo is completely fine.

[winged thorn]

I see, so I imagine it relies on if you can aim or not too

[minor fractal]

ye

And pen weapons get both insane ammo and better damage output if you are using pen well, which is why they're top tier.

[winged thorn]

also on the topic of melee weapons, Im sure this is probably just a matter of skill but sometimes the knife feels like it has wack hit register

[minor fractal]

A HEL Rifle 3-pen is both getting triple value for that bullet spent, and is killing enemies 3x as fast (although not that simple since it's low RoF).

[ripe hamlet]

knife hitbox is a little janky

but youll learn its quirk after using it for a while

[craggy pier]

What challenges were encountered when squashing bugs?

[sudden nexus]

you assume the devs squashed bugs?

[craggy pier]

Tried to at least

Would be interesting to see what happened in development

[ocean spindle]

uh ttypical develoopment things

u fix one, 5 move appear accidentally

in different places

[craggy pier]

I know of a game that had a minor bug. When fixed, the game engine crashed, so they left it in :p

[ocean spindle]

:]

the funny

gtfo is pretty infamous by its amount of bugs tho that true

[craggy pier]

Maybe 10C could add a windshield wiper on the mask to wipe the black void glitch away. Problem solved xD

[ocean spindle]

disinfectioon gaming

[craggy pier]

I heard it's spelled "disinfected pack" in the game's code 😄

I'm glad the packs are also disinfected. Would be bad news if they weren't

[burnt inlet]

Time constraints

[ocean spindle]

u cannot dmg a tank multiple times with a HEL weapon right

by doiing pen to multiple tumors

it only counts once

[digital mural]

Correct

[ocean spindle]

thank u ass :3

[digital mural]

❤️

[ocean spindle]

butt

[raven copper]

how do people get custom colors that arent jus sided to you

ik you can mod colors but it would jus be visible to you

an theres a ax one but idk where to find that one havent looked yet

[digital mural]

Incorrect

Some mods affect everyone in the lobby

Including the custom color names

Everyone can see them

[raven copper]

hmm interesting

I was using a mod from thunderstore an invited my friend an they couldn't see it

I did run it through thunderstore modded if thay has anything to do with it

[craggy pier]

Actually depending on how you mod glowstick mod, it will be your side only

[raven copper]

how do I mod it to be not like that

same for the other 2 I mentioned

[sudden nexus]

theres only 4 built in options for glowsticks

so if you set it to those then everyone sees it

anything else is client only

afaik

[ocean spindle]

red gloowi gaming

[raven copper]

what about for names

[ocean spindle]

u kno at the end of things this game do b pretty cool

[burnt inlet]

Yeppers

[ocean spindle]

cool game :] r6d4 my beloved

[burnt inlet]

Never played it

[ocean spindle]

u shoulds

[burnt inlet]

Yep

After D3

[ocean spindle]

well quick gogogo

[foggy blade]

Sup. I wanna ask what map is best for combat practice?

[burnt inlet]

Depends what you wanna practice, if movement and general shooting id say prolly R6A1 for something everyone can play

[timber shoal]

r1a1, pull alarm and dont do bioscans

[burnt inlet]

Just pull alarm and don’t do any scans

[timber shoal]

any map works tbh

[ocean spindle]

i responded on the other chanel 🔥

[fleet shadow]

What do you recommend pairing with the sawed off?

[raven copper]

hel rifle

[ocean spindle]

about anything, sawed off is super flexblle

[raven copper]

my favorite

[ocean spindle]

iif u really want, maybe a long range but most levels u dont need it

cuz cloose quarters

[raven copper]

scatter sawed could also be really good for certain things

[ocean spindle]

yes killing

[raven copper]

but sawed hel rifle is so peak

[ocean spindle]

iidk i play swed off with combat shottie, normal shottie, at times prec rifle, it just

does things

[raven copper]

o ya it goes with everything

but my personal fav is with hel rifle

but ye can basically pair it with virtually anything an be fine

[fleet shadow]

My normal team runs HEL rifle, scatter, veruta normally. Do you recommend anything specific to fill the gap?

[burnt inlet]

veruta is suboptimal

but like ur covering almost everything

[raven copper]

ye basically every base is covered

[burnt inlet]

just like schmove with any weapon ig, client sided scatter is good to have

[raven copper]

can flex anything for last one

[fleet shadow]

Alright sick, thanks

[raven copper]

as long as you have stuff to tske care of specials someone can flex wtv they want

something to support the others for stagger or wtv you want

[burnt inlet]

@fleet shadow its prolly a hel rifle/scatter angle if you wanna be optimized, burst canon is also good

[raven copper]

^^^

burst canon is goated

[fleet shadow]

Think scatter makes sense for this level (R6D3)

[ocean spindle]

really makes sense for about every level

[fleet shadow]

What's the route for this level? Struggling to think about how to split for the overload error

[burnt inlet]

one or two hold error

[tiny wyvern]

3 defend 1 dive or 2 and 2

At least, I think that's the strat for R6D3

The others usually has better advice than me

[burnt inlet]

That’s not true

[tiny wyvern]

Well it's usually true for anything outside of i dunno R1 and R2

[burnt inlet]

Ur like top 3 knowledge based players who I talk to

[upper ginkgo]

that's kinda crazy ngl

[fathom ice]

second is frosty and first is eva dw

[frail heart]

So true

Tru is probably up there for general gtfo knowledge

Eva is up there for speeds

Jish is pretty knowledgeable

[fleet shadow]

When is best to take the overload error? Before main or after?

[frail heart]

What level?

[fleet shadow]

R6D3

[frail heart]

Before

[fleet shadow]

Yeah, agreed

[tiny wyvern]

Am I even comparable to tru

[safe cradle]

After means no fog for reactor but it's kinda trickier to pull off, also means all the time you want to finish Secondary. Before is very probably the intended way and goes on much smoother, moreover, assuming you give a shit about it, it means that checkpoint is more useful.

If you want to do overload After, remember to wait for the timeout for the end of main to run out before inputting DISABLE_ALL_ALARMS or it wont delete the alarm since it's not technically started yet.

After doing it both ways to be honest I wouldn't bother with that trick.

[burnt inlet]

No but I don’t talk to him that much, my list goes Eva, prolly some person I’m not thinking of now, you

Ez

[safe cradle]

I think the most game knowledgeable people I've seen here are tru,darkeva, jish and wesley

[burnt inlet]

Yep

But I don’t speak to three of em

[safe cradle]

There's "knowing how to do this map" knowledge and then there's "I know the formula of the sigma of the back multiplier"

The second is not even remotely comparable to the first one

not by a long shot

I 100% DO NOT qualify for that, and, no offense, neither does Golden

Hence the reticence

[burnt inlet]

Ye but like I haven’t seen them speak as often as you guys do

[safe cradle]

It's just that in general a certain level of knowledge is only acquired if you know how to "wiz" through the game's inner mechanisms, be it for speedrunning purposes or simply to know more

Hence why literally all of those are speedrunners

[burnt inlet]

Last time I spoke to tru was like a month and a half ago

[safe cradle]

I know shit about programming so I never speak (or speak) about stuff like that

[burnt inlet]

Very average that this game has so many speeds in the top level

[burnt inlet]

Programmings easy to do nowadays

Just hop on the ChatGPT grind

[safe cradle]

I'd make a small deviation of the discussion over how this game requires a good amount of "meta" knowledge you wouldn't otherwise know to be as proficient as you can be with speedrunning here

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[safe cradle]

But I've no experience in speedrunning IN GENERAL, let alone in this game, to understand if this is a pattern OR it's exclusive for GTFO

[burnt inlet]

I think it’s cuz GTFO is a hardcore game and like if you like it and beat it there’s not much to do except modded

[safe cradle]

I remember meeting a group of 4 that had no idea that uplinks need to spawn in same zone as terminal, and they were missing basically only R8

And realized that even that stuff it's not really a sine qua non condition for finishing the game

Much less more advanced stuff

[burnt inlet]

First time I learnt that was in R5C1

[burnt inlet]

Ye

[ripe hamlet]

losing my blind r6cx run because enemies path bug out and they all gather at the second uplink term in brazil and i got jumpscared by them

[ripe hamlet]

[wet bear]

Abuse this knowledge in next try

[uneven kiln]

There’s a plugin to fix it but everyone in lobby has to be running it

faulty navmesh

[wet bear]

Don't fix it, fixing it means you can't abuse those ai mag dumps

Use their dumbness

[prime ore]

how fast does a sniper sentry shoot?

asking if I wanna run 2 burst turrets or 1 burst 1 sniper

[fathom ice]

like one shot every 2.5s if enemies pinged

and 3 to 3.5 or smth if unpinged

[prime ore]

and it 1 shots sleepers right?

cuz like there is

[fathom ice]

and chargers

[prime ore]

1 gorillion long places in R2D1

[fathom ice]

and two shots giants

[prime ore]

holy

that is big

[fathom ice]

i think it's two shot for hybrid as well

[prime ore]

big shooty dudes right

[fathom ice]

yes

[ocean spindle]

hibrid

:3

[prime ore]

I hate these enemies btw

why tf does it take 4 prec rifle shots in the head

[ocean spindle]

lot of hp

[prime ore]

is it like

2x bigger than like big strikers

[ocean spindle]

uh no

120 big strikeers

150 hybrids

[timber shoal]

hybrid breakpoints my beloathed

[prime ore]

which are

[timber shoal]

bad

they’re just very consistent in how annoying they are to kill

[ocean spindle]

head

:]

hi dodo

[prime ore]

what are most consistent weapons to kill them

cuz prec rifle definetly isnt doing the shit

[ocean spindle]

sniper, 30 dmg guns [5 shots to do so usually], scattergun, or burst cannon
the usual

prec rifle is just a small gun for small bois

[timber shoal]

sawed off one-mags them

[prime ore]

prec rifle is such an ass design I have to quickscope little enemies and the big enemies that are so easy to hit in the head tickles them

[timber shoal]

prec rifle feels nice though 🥺

[ocean spindle]

with shots on the head

[ocean spindle]

the expenses of a thermal sight

[timber shoal]

scatter and sniper both 1 tap, hel rifle will kill in 4 shots if you’re hitting head and the pen/stagger keeps them from pissing on you, burst cannon fucks em up as one might expect

choke mod and regular shotty both probably fare decently

main slot weapons are generally pretty shit at actually killing them besides sawed off

slug i suppose

[ocean spindle]

n no slug doesnt one mag it i think unless u hit constant headshots

[timber shoal]

didn’t figure

[fathom ice]

sawed off brainrot is real

[ocean spindle]

also big to know, u can cancel a hybrid attack with ANY dmg

[fathom ice]

but ye sniper is generally best pick vs hybrids

[ocean spindle]

a single autopiiss bullet will stop them

[timber shoal]

me on my way to kill hybrid with only burst pistol 🥰

[fathom ice]

just hit 28 to head trust

[eager jungle]

Trying to get onto sledgehammer from knife what are the charge points for taking out sleepers

[fathom ice]

half charge to back / head kills

[eager jungle]

I know it can one tap light to shooter heads and a full charge will take out a striker to the body but what charge do I need to be to take a striker to back

[fathom ice]

quarter charge for back of the head

full charge for body

[eager jungle]

Okay cool 👍

preciated

Now I simply need to get used to the hitbox…

[fathom ice]

its pretty intuitive unlike knife so

shouldn't be any problems

[eager jungle]

Something about the sledge has never quite clicked with my brain

Knife has always made sense to me

[fathom ice]

knife is hardest to learn prob

bat is inconvenient and spear is spear

[grizzled patrol]

knife is just jank

[eager jungle]

I tend to accidentally hit neck/shoulders with sledge on scouts any advice one why that might be or do I simply need to git gud

[fathom ice]

try jumping before hitting

[grizzled patrol]

pressing spacebar

[fathom ice]

so ure at higher elevation and it's easier to hit

[eager jungle]

Touché

yeah I guess the same would apply to hammer

[fathom ice]

just practice

you'll get a hang of it

[eager jungle]

The pressure of fucking up hitting occiput with knife made me actually think about it I just figured hammer would be able to do it from ground but uhhh yeah jumping oughta be an easy fix

Anyhoo, thanks

All my pals gravitate to everything but the hammer and one is unwilling to change from spear despite everything I’ve told em, so I’ve accepted taking a damn hammer falls upon me

[ripe hamlet]

give that friend a spear run on some error lvls

itd be interesting

[grizzled patrol]

barely

just shooting is enough

[ripe hamlet]

tru

[eager jungle]

They’re gonna need a wake up of some sort

I’m hoping they’re not so stubborn as to not realize it’s shit on a melee heavy level

[grizzled patrol]

honestly, there is nothing wrong with running a spear. it does slow the game down, but for the first clear its not that bad

[ripe hamlet]

if you go slow spear is basically a slightly weaker hammer

its only a problem when youre trying to fast stealth or melee some waves to save ammos

[tardy ingot]

any awake enemy tbh

[ripe hamlet]

anyway

im curious

what are the lvl with "forced" stealth zones

r3d1 has that big scary cscout zone

and r8e2 last code maybe

[grizzled patrol]

R6D3

R6D1 to some extend

[civic wave]

r7e1

[fathom ice]

r5e1

(not in these times ig but u get the point)

[thick stump]

to be honest, I woke them all up and killed them chargers there and the incoming waves and it worked super well, but like Sky said r5e1 is very hard to play without stealth

[undone raven]

Nah

[grizzled patrol]

Yuh

[calm pulsar]

There's also R4E1

[grand bone]

Veruta or Arbalist

I remember one being said to be worse

[timber shoal]

arbalist is the worse of the two

[novel coral]

Is using a knife worth it over hammer for lets say I need to fight a swarm of enemies with only melee occasionally, or even potentially fighting melee only during alarms to conserve ammo? Or is hammer better due to its overall consistency?

[digital mural]

They are both good at waves

The only difference would be when dealing with giants knife is very bad

[frail heart]

r7e1 isnt impossible

idk why i replied 4 days later

nah 3rd code is the issue

[ripe hamlet]

Only e2, r6cx and all the timed sequence lvl are not done solo right

[frail heart]

timed sequences have

afaik

[tardy ingot]

they just suck to do

[frail heart]

i have done e2 solo

[tardy ingot]

you either gamble hard

or gamble while long kiting shit

[frail heart]

r7e1 hasnt been done

[ripe hamlet]

Yeah I mean unseeded

[frail heart]

r4e1 hasnt then

[ripe hamlet]

It’s technically possible but too painful to gamba

[frail heart]

its basically the same as e2

you are just gamba

hani said r4e1 is a bad solo lmao

but r4e1 and e2 are basically forcing boosters

[fathom ice]

r4e1 solo is super doable without anything

r4e1 100% is a diff story tho

[frail heart]

yeah

main only is ez

secondary is forcing boosters

[sturdy glen]

Every solo is a bad solo 👍

[fathom ice]

^

[ripe hamlet]

Bad as in skill issue or unfun

[sturdy glen]

Unfun

[ripe hamlet]

Real

[steady fog]

is this game like completely dead? trying to matchmake and i got 1 game but it took a bit to get 4 guys. the game didnt even last 3 minutes. only have 4 hours since i bought it long ago

[ripe hamlet]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ripe hamlet]

Find group here instead

Ingame matchmaking is bad and dead

[steady fog]

but the game itself isnt? steam chart said 200 player peak but that seems strange that this discord has so many people in it

[tardy ingot]

ingame matchmaking isnt rly used

the game also is generally on the niche side and a lot of people just play in premade teams

then theres also the thing that its 11am in europe and night still in the us

[tardy ingot]

235 an hour ago

when eu and us are asleep/work

[steady fog]

true dat, 2am aint good for gaming solo

[tardy ingot]

peak time starts in like 9 hours or so

[steady fog]

wish i woulda tried the game when it was more popular. i wasnt very good starting out but noone else i knew played it

[burnt inlet]

most are retired or play premade teams, pubbing takes some of your mentality

[burnt inlet]

no one was good starting out

[steady fog]

that would check out. bummer the games so niche

it has a cool vibe to it

[ripe hamlet]

Ppl will hop on to help out new players

First few lvls are easy to find members

It only get hard to find random when it’s unfun lvls but that’s just how it is

[steady fog]

how long have you been playing?

[ripe hamlet]

I’m one of the new guys

The colored names are the old ones

With thousands of hours

A few hundreds hours like me are just getting ready for some of the hardest lvls

[frail heart]

moth 🥀

[sturdy glen]

I have 40 hours

[ripe hamlet]

40 hours in cell skip maybe

[sturdy glen]

Even that's way too low

[frail heart]

40 years in skipping bitches 🥀

[ripe hamlet]

😔

[frail heart]

sorry pub

[sturdy glen]

Woah

I'll take the insult but pub??

😭 😭 😭

[frail heart]

can we get a rule check?

"Please keep conversations in English whenever possible"

[burnt inlet]

fuh you mean

[frail heart]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-you-mean-gif-11537439475653946477

[burnt inlet]

i have less than 50 hours

i got hard carried by three vets

got screamed at a couple of times 🥀

[ripe hamlet]

😔

We need a carry% where 3 speed runners carry a newbie through the rundowns

[prime musk]

bring back gtfo community service

[frail heart]

find me on fiver

[winter breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416907525460590593/1409682042085703823/tankbussy.gif

[burnt inlet]

🤔 i actually wanna do this if i get good enough

but more like

R6% or smth like that

[frail heart]

r6% speedrun?

[burnt inlet]

ye

but like

carry%

or R1%

[frail heart]

in one session?

[burnt inlet]

but carry%

[burnt inlet]

i dunno

[frail heart]

i cant wait for my team to do r6%

we've ran every single level

and story%

[burnt inlet]

🔥

how long is even R6%

[frail heart]

most levels in r6 are banger speeds

or at least not horrible

[frail heart]

current wr is like 3.5 hours

[burnt inlet]

is that story% or R6%?

[frail heart]

r6%

story% is 41:41

[burnt inlet]

damn

yall are too quick

or smth

tbf story% is 4 levels

[frail heart]

yeah

r6% is 13

and you have to play r6cx

🤮🤮🤮

[burnt inlet]

😭

[winter breach]

Please censor the last word

[burnt inlet]

its the same as j*b

[winter breach]

Exactly

[frail heart]

only j*b i like is the one that blows

[burnt inlet]

empl*yed

[burnt inlet]

@timber shoal

[frail heart]

bro could have pinged my gf 🥀

[burnt inlet]

@tropic root

[frail heart]

she working rn

[burnt inlet]

smh

[frail heart]

hard working woman

[burnt inlet]

dodo is eepy

frfr

[frail heart]

very attractive

[burnt inlet]

🔥

happy for you lot

sadge its long distance

[frail heart]

we honestly are pretty fine with long distance

obv its sad not being able to see each other whenever we want

but we both like our independence

[burnt inlet]

ye i get that

[frail heart]

she want me to marry her before i move in

uni student saving up for ring

[ripe hamlet]

Long distance aggro?

🔥

[frail heart]

TRUE

wait

[burnt inlet]

so true

[frail heart]

thats so true

[burnt inlet]

like 5 months of rent

get ghostly to pay

(those who snow)

[frail heart]

diamonds are so overrated

they arent even rare

[burnt inlet]

frfr

[frail heart]

its just greedy ahh companies

[burnt inlet]

and 99% of them are labgrown

and theyre upcharged like hell

[runic roost]

how long is the long tho

[burnt inlet]

other side of world

literally

[frail heart]

only 16000km

[burnt inlet]

"only"

[frail heart]

im going back in november

[ripe hamlet]

Labgrown diamond are actually cheap

The diamond lobby made it that way

They want to keep “natural” diamond expensive

[runic roost]

I feel that

[ripe hamlet]

Even though they’re literally of inferior quality

[frail heart]

just gonna get a ring pop

[burnt inlet]

"actually cheap" the cheap in question: more upcharged than printer inc

[tardy ingot]

[burnt inlet]

just get one of those rubber ones

[frail heart]

[burnt inlet]

Hmm

[frail heart]

aint no way you ss that

[burnt inlet]

vencord

[runic roost]

holy shit he acc did

[burnt inlet]

team its actually not

well its kinda

[frail heart]

wrong

[burnt inlet]

its more so automated

[frail heart]

i didnt even know that a vencord thing

[ripe hamlet]

Relative to natural ones yes

[burnt inlet]

reason why i wanted embed perms here ngl

[burnt inlet]

its under plugins "fakenitro"

[ripe hamlet]

Engagement ring is literally just a propaganda made by diamond industry to sell you the rings at high price anyway

[burnt inlet]

so true

im like kinda convinced its all a plot to gain money

and always has been

[frail heart]

i cant believe "we want perms in gtfo chat" turned into the deletion of the most important channel in history

and the mods dont even care 🥀

[ripe hamlet]

It’s documented lmao

[burnt inlet]

gtfo spoilers 🥀

[ripe hamlet]

The idea does not come about organically

It’s a massive marketing campaign

[burnt inlet]

yea

[frail heart]

especially because diamonds are not rare

[tardy ingot]

at least go for a cool looking mineral

[burnt inlet]

yea like i just stumble accross them whenever i go outside

[runic roost]

I prefer enngagement arts and crafts set

[tardy ingot]

diamonds only cool point is being hard to cut and easy to cut with

[burnt inlet]

moisanite or whatever its called

[tardy ingot]

if it comes down to smth basic id love an amethyst

which is my favourite mineral

[ripe hamlet]

Enriched uranium

[frail heart]

might as well

[tardy ingot]

purple being my fav colour and all

[ripe hamlet]

Cool looking glowing ore

[runic roost]

Mineral

ROCK

[burnt inlet]

can i eat minerals?

[frail heart]

Asbestos 🔥🔥

[ripe hamlet]

Til death do us part ahh

[frail heart]

if yo engagement ring half life aint at least 500 million years do they really love you?

[tardy ingot]

no

[runic roost]

:(

[safe cradle]

ROBOT ROCK

Or you're all too young for Daft Punk?

Whatever!

[civic wave]

you moving to Europe?

[frail heart]

i will move to study

[civic wave]

i might be moving out eventually, or just somewhere nice in the EU mainland

ah well, back to auditing medicines i go

[ripe hamlet]

More study?

Crazy ppl around here

[winter breach]

Bismuth

[undone raven]

If yo engagement ring half life ain't at most 5 seconds do they really love you?

[fathom ice]

five hundred beers

[winter breach]

Well you will have to Get Lucky finding someone like that in younger generations

[winter breach]

As long as they dont go to balkans its alright

[tropic root]

I have no time for his antics. One of us has to be earning the cash money

[burnt inlet]

so true

[tropic root]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[burnt inlet]

i wouldnt pay more for a danish either

[ripe hamlet]

the true artist route

making weird shit while leeching off your rich spouse

[burnt inlet]

average frosty moment

[burnt inlet]

if hed clear E2 without seeding it might be worth it

[ripe hamlet]

real

but we're getting ahead of ourselves here

lets just do r4e1 sec unseeded first

[burnt inlet]

🔥

[prime musk]

give me client scatter and ill do it

[frail heart]

Can do both

[burnt inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276146129372844173/1296985919181815918/ezgif-7-5875e47d1e.gif

[limpid canyon]

same mask right?

[uneven kiln]

yes

[limpid canyon]

Okay fuck yeah

[carmine prairie]

Helloo everyone, not sure where to ask this. But I can't seem to get the in-game voice chat to work. Not sure why but I cannot hear anyone and they cannot hear me even though everything appears to be in order

[tardy ingot]

hopefully someone can help you

But in general, id just not use it

It doesnt do anything (no reaction for enemies, no proximity voice chat, no cool distortion sound)

so using discord or whichever you prefer is just easier

[carmine prairie]

Ya we normally do, but Discord just had the outage and it hasn't come back up for all of us. So we're using in-game chat unfortunately mine is broken 😭

[burnt inlet]

Check the settings

[lucid geyser]

hey is hel rifle good on r2d2

[digital mural]

Yes

[warm bison]

hey so i just bought the game is there any tips for a beginner like me

[timber shoal]

among your best options, the bridge has great lines and it does well against hybrids/bigs

[lucid geyser]

okay epic

[timber shoal]

hello! if you haven’t used the server before there’s in-server matchmaking so you can find a group if you’d like! bots work too but you’ll generally find more success with people

[warm bison]

okay

[digital mural]

Start with the training level is a very basic tutorial

Then you can either start the game with Rundown 1 or Rundown 6

[warm bison]

bet

[timber shoal]

in the beginning i’d say get used to both your melee weapon (preferably not spear) and your guns, and experiment with different loadout combinations

[digital mural]

Keep in mind this game is HARD

[timber shoal]

also true

[digital mural]

You'll die a lot

[warm bison]

okay ill keep that in mind

but ill try not to die (hopefully)

[timber shoal]

it’ll happen a lot in the beginning

[digital mural]

Does he know?

[warm bison]

i indeed do not know

[digital mural]

It will happen a lot in the beginning, and in the middle and in the late game

[warm bison]

basically anytime😭

[digital mural]

No one is safe :3

[timber shoal]

yeah dying a lot is part of the game

[warm bison]

welp thats what i signed up for

[timber shoal]

hell yeah

[warm bison]

glad to be here

cant wait to be humbled in 5 seconds😭

[timber shoal]

take it slow to start

speed will become important later on but for now it’s not your priority

also please change your FOV as soon as possible

put it as high as you comfortably can

base fov is very very low and will make the game harder than it needs to be

[warm bison]

okay

thanks for pointing it out before i jump in

[burnt inlet]

R1c1 does he know

[burnt inlet]

If you’re down for a duo plus bots I could hop on for a bit

[warm bison]

sure

[burnt inlet]

Give me 5 mins

[timber shoal]

teach newbie well my twink

[burnt inlet]

I will 🙏

I will be mute tho

[warm bison]

okay

[timber shoal]

also if you’ve any more questions feel free to ask :3

games pretty complex and some mechanics are 1) not explicitly stated by the game and 2) hard to learn without guidance

[burnt inlet]

yeppers

[warm bison]

okay

doing tutorial rq

alr joining VC

[burnt inlet]

@warm bison check dms

[grizzled patrol]

[outer swallow]

Hey, i need help with this game, i tried playing solo with bots but they've been completely useless sack of shits because i'm forced to clear out the enemies whiile they crawl around pinging and breaking padlocks, i also have iissue with stealth where there is 2 or more enemies next to each other, and they keep glowing one after another, if i kill one, the others get alerted, if i try to crouch walk, they wiill pulsate, there is no way i can reach the objectiive like this, and even then i still have to get rid of them which is extra ammo wasted.

Speaking of which, they always do heavy damage when attacking me, i take cover and avoid being flanked but they still hit mme through walls

and i shoot them in the head and they still surviive, ii'm forced to shoot them couple of times and it takes more ammo, not even melee helps

[thick stump]

if you want, we can hop on a voice channel and play together and I can guide you through the mission

because the game is really very hard, especially learning from the very beginning

[outer swallow]

Granted i tried playing with randomms but the issues stiill persist and nothing in the game tutorial helps.

[outer swallow]

That's nice, but i can't rn, i would appreciate if you could atleast advice me on what to do, none of the youtube viideos helped out either because ii was told the same thing from tutorial (crouch, make less sounds, conserve ammmo, etc, all useless tips)

i can't even tap W to move slowly, they still pulsate, it's bullshit

like there's not evenn enough ammo packs for these encounters, and i always find glowsticks that barely light up an entire room

[thick stump]

most important in the game is to have patience, because pulsating is the last stage before they wake up, so very important to stand still and don't move/stand up/crouch

[thick stump]

usually you melee kill a lot of enemies and only use ammo in emergencies or during alarms

which melee weapon are you using? this is also a big factor

[outer swallow]

Yeah that's the problem, i'm forced in a situation where there's couple enemies glowing one after another, i got patience but it feels like i'm softlocked here, it's same situation in both bots solo and with random players

[thick stump]

I recommend you to use the hammer because it has great base damage, good stagger and can deal with mulitple enemies at the same time, spear is very bad in dealing with multiple enemies

[outer swallow]

Sledgehammer

It never helped with multiple enemies, it feels like hitting a bullet sponge

[winter breach]

Holy yappuchino

[outer swallow]

and they alert enemies when i kill them nearby in stealth

[thick stump]

with a sledgehammer you can do a 80% charge and oneshot enemies on their head

[thick stump]

only if those are triggered

sometimes you need to wait until they are calmed down and then you can kill it

[outer swallow]

Yeah but they weren't triggered, it was a split second glow that wasn't even in my line of sight as i charged and attacked.

[winter breach]

There are many types of waking up and the most annoying one is long range aggro

[thick stump]

then it has to be the long range aggro which can happen sometimes but is usually rare

[winter breach]

The enemy will wake up if they are pulsating and they are in 13.3 meter distance

[outer swallow]

Iit's quite common for me

[winter breach]

Bc you killed an enemy

[outer swallow]

They weren't even pulsating iis what i'm saying.

[winter breach]

Well

Gtfo is known for spaghetti coding

[thick stump]

not pulsating, I mean if they are just glowing up, this is also a sort of being triggered

[outer swallow]

They were both dormant, didn't glow yet, and i hit one with full charge, and another went fully red and triggered

[winter breach]

So a lot of stuff that shouldnt happen does actually happen

[thick stump]

how far away was that enemy?

[outer swallow]

like 10 feet away

[thick stump]

very strange, maybe it was just bad luck, but usually they don't wake up

[burnt inlet]

The last point is just you needing to be quick with meleeing both, they attack if one part of your hitbox is out of cover, change weapons if you think it’s too low dmg. Those are my takes on the situation

[winter breach]

Sometimes this can happen due to the fact they are about to start glowing but they are still in starting position

[burnt inlet]

You got long range aggrod, avoid killing enemies when others are glowing/throbbing around it if you wanna avoid long range aggro

[outer swallow]

it's bullshit, like how tf am ii supposed to deal with that? my objectives involve getting something, and in all those times ii'm forced to run, i can't even take cover from a fight nor can i practice this with braindead bots