gtfo-related-questions

[neat vapor]

r7 is weird i like most of the levels but none of them feel particularly special to me

[full stream]

Fast paced, work as a team, feel like a god shooting everything

Basically infinite ammo and supplies

[ocean spindle]

i think r8 perfected it, r6 introduced it, and so r7 is in the middle

[tiny wyvern]

(then you wake up the tanks and all hell breaks loose)

[neat vapor]

yeah its probably just that

[full stream]

We woke up the tanks

We just killed them

[neat vapor]

it doesnt help that the e tier is the worst one in the game

[ocean spindle]

r7 really started to flesh out what could be gtfo peak but it cut it a little close
but still r7 had amazing set pieces and concepts

im sorry but theres another one

[full stream]

Is it?

[ocean spindle]

one worse

[full stream]

It’s like my 2nd favorite

First one is obviously r4e1

[neat vapor]

my favorite part is where you dont play the game because youre holding pablo or spawn blocking

or because someone is foaming room scan

[ocean spindle]

spawn blocking?

[neat vapor]

for code 4

and code 3 too sometimes

[full stream]

I like to do that

I sit in my phone playing my gacha games lmao

[ocean spindle]

oh but its a second kdmsk

and u get to run with the other coder

[full stream]

Good time for me

[ocean spindle]

this generation attention span

we so fucked

[full stream]

I’ve played it for 5 years you know

[ocean spindle]

the gacha or gtfo

[full stream]

The gacha

[neat vapor]

im talking about the charger zone mainly but that too

[ocean spindle]

ah

[neat vapor]

im just not a fan of the level design because of how much it encourages spawn blocking and somebody not playing the game

the class 6 near the start with pablo is really good though i wish the level was more of that

[full stream]

Saying I don’t got the attention span is underestimated bc I’ve saved for 1 year and a half for 1 character

Lmao

[ocean spindle]

more like overestimated i guess ksks

[full stream]

Plus it was a time where the gacha game didn’t have a pity system so I could have not even gotten her but I did

[ocean spindle]

idk what u could do with tbh
like occlusion tried but at points it isnt too different from r7e1

[full stream]

[digital mural]

FGO?

[full stream]

Yes

[digital mural]

Bruh

[ocean spindle]

fuego

[full stream]

How you know?

[neat vapor]

i mean you could just restructure the level so it plays better

[digital mural]

The "didn't had pity" sentence

[full stream]

I remember when Merlin was introduced

And was on his first ever banner

[full stream]

Did you play it?

[ocean spindle]

como no el mago de disney

[neat vapor]

start with tank blood door and have it spawn pablo as well then have it go into the class 6 which goes into the room scan and make it actually spawn chargers from all sides

[digital mural]

Fuck no

[neat vapor]

from there you can have it be basically the same but itd flow better imo

[full stream]

Understandable

[ocean spindle]

start with tank blood door that spawns pablo sounds kinda eh cuz ur just doing an r5d2 but without the weight and without one being killable

[neat vapor]

as in it has the 2 tanks and pablo

[full stream]

Also how many hours does first time people take to complete all missions?

[neat vapor]

wait

[ocean spindle]

yes so

what i said

[ocean spindle]

i took 1k and im still not done but ntomal people like 200 i guess

depends how stuck u get

[neat vapor]

i thought you misunderstood it as 1 tank and 1 pablo

[digital mural]

On average 300-400

Sometimes 500

[full stream]

That’s concerning

[digital mural]

Most of those are failed attempts

[ocean spindle]

or fucking around

[neat vapor]

idk i think itd be better than how current tank door goes gameplay wise but i would have to see it in gameplay

[timber shoal]

me core

[neat vapor]

i just wish the level was designed in a way you arent just babysitting pablo

[digital mural]

Me

[full stream]

Tbf I fucked around a lot of the missions but still completed them

[ocean spindle]

i think ur also cutting a lot of the level
granted pablo is used badly but cutting down the runtime to just not have pablo isnt really an answer either

[full stream]

Brazil skip?

[digital mural]

Remove Pablo and make him mine only

[neat vapor]

im just talking about swapping the order of the first parts everything past that would be the same

[full stream]

That could work

[neat vapor]

the only thing thats getting cut is the key grab

which would suck actually it is cool

[ocean spindle]

i guess it just feels shorter in my mind im being dumb

but idk

i guess it cutd cell retrieve too but thats just a walk

literally just a walk

[neat vapor]

yeah it just cuts stuff that isnt really relevant

[ocean spindle]

idk, it just dont think its enough to kinda 'fix' the level

but im also just imagining it

i have like no reference

wpuld have to try to mod it

[neat vapor]

it would probably need more yeah

making room scan function at a minimum would probably be enough to make me like the level more since thats the biggest time youre babysitting pablo

[ocean spindle]

idk how hard the scan is like withour foaming, for my skill is too extreme but i am skill issue personified

feels like it would be the hardest part of the lvl

[neat vapor]

cutting cell would be good too just make it a terminal command or have it be behind the tank blood door

[full stream]

Its kind of hard to but a hel auto sentry can hold them semi back

[ocean spindle]

bur u would need a funnel then

[full stream]

And allow you to shoot

[ocean spindle]

cuz spawning both sides

[full stream]

Hel rifle would go crazy there and feel good to use

[ocean spindle]

again with a funnel
its just that square tile, bur idk how would u defend it

less even kite it

not kite as in long kite but like move around the scan to not get hit

[digital mural]

Why stagger when you can kill

[ocean spindle]

cuz pablos at ur back

[ocean spindle]

hel auto kills

back damage goes hard

bur again u need a funnel

[full stream]

Well I’m assuming your not using c foam to hold em down

[neat vapor]

you would have to test it to see how having them spawn both sides would work

[full stream]

It just helps with you shooting them

[ocean spindle]

i mean as long as it did an initial wave in both zones

[full stream]

While having them line up you know

[ocean spindle]

that would kill the rng off it

forcing both doord to be broken

[full stream]

Couldn’t you hold on the stairs

[ocean spindle]

but pablo

[full stream]

Fair

Keep forgetting about him

[ocean spindle]

thats why i say idk how would u do it
like a room scan of chargers its hard, with two opposite spawns its harder and u need a funnel

with pablo?

idk how, i cant quite think of a solution

cuz even in brazil most people just fucking exploit the ai, and when not, u still have sort of an open space to move and take cover

ur nor limited to a zone and pablo csn be held off

[neat vapor]

itd still probably result in one person holding pablo i just cant think of exactly where youd do it

[ocean spindle]

but what happens if chargers start going to them

cuz depending on the spot they might be closer to the spawns

or need to be covered

[neat vapor]

i was think you find a spot to loop pablo behind everyone so they can kill chargers before they get to you but idk if the tile has one

[full stream]

I didn’t know they came in opposite ways?

I just thought they came in one direction

[neat vapor]

you could also just have the door behind a flesh wall so you cant foam it

[ocean spindle]

well they dont but thats the whole point

the discussion is what would happen if the alarm did whay irs supposed to do

spawn chargers both sides

[neat vapor]

idk you would just have to try it to see

[ocean spindle]

it sounds like it wpuld be the hardest level

lile even when people foam it in this version

and it breaks

its almost always a wipe

it is already kinda brutal just by how it is if u dont foam

[full stream]

You get over runner easily

Bc my first try at the full room scan we didn’t have a c foamer and got rekt

[ocean spindle]

u have to get pablo away from that door and its hell to not keep los to get aggro

have to play like with a little amount of ammo too depending on how u were doing

r7e1 is very tight too in that sense

very little resources at points

[full stream]

I love the beginning though

Bc the three people have to fight the charger wave, and the 2 tanks

[ocean spindle]

well u- have mines usuallt for that wave

or well

[full stream]

What is it with 3 tanks with reactor

[ocean spindle]

no yeah cuz u tend to find consumables

[full stream]

R6d1?

That was fun to kill them

[ocean spindle]

brother that was one mdnsk

[full stream]

At the end?

I don’t remember which one

[ocean spindle]

r6d1 is kraken
r5d2 is 3 tanks

r6 is easy remember

[full stream]

Yh r5d2

That was fun

[ocean spindle]

i dont remember how my r5d2 completion went but i probs did kill them

well not me whoever it was

[full stream]

Mine was an accident cheese

[ocean spindle]

also probs before the scattergun

[ocean spindle]

brah

[full stream]

Ok well remember how I say that I don’t like hosting the games

[neat vapor]

you could probably tune the numbers for waves and resources

changing tile could help too

[full stream]

I desync’d the lobby and we accidentally made the invincible door

I didn’t even know what happened

But I was really funny

[craggy pier]

Recommended bandwidth for hosting?

[full stream]

Nah it’s more like people leaving my house in and out makes the internet go crazy

Hence the desync’s

[craggy pier]

Clarifying: What is the recommended bandwidth for hosting?

[full stream]

Oh

I thought it was towards my thing mb

[ocean spindle]

uh wide

idk

[craggy pier]

What's the minimum CPU for hosting to avoid lagging enemies etc? Some people can join lag free but can't host

[sudden nexus]

are you running the game on anything thats not a potato

[uneven kiln]

it largely varies depending on who you are playing with. If you have a regular playgroup it is best to find out who is the best host. Issues with ping begin to occur with 80ms or higher ping, but these are extremely niche ones. Around the 100-120ms ballpark you can start to get desynced against ambient sleeping enemies and hazards, and I personally consider anything with 200ms ping (as Client) unplayable with all but the most coordinated of teams that have good chemistry together

[craggy pier]

Yes

[sudden nexus]

for the most part you should be fine

[craggy pier]

Ty

[sudden nexus]

outside of later rundowns

might measure how much bandwidth gtfo is using next time i play

[digital mural]

Anything from 2019 works

[uneven kiln]

I have only moderately strong internet for a household and I do fine with NA/EU players

[frail heart]

low ping is a crutch trust

also desync isnt necessarily caused by ping

[uneven kiln]

I get about like 120 ping to moth and we do fine when he's not throwing

yeah, true

I also run stuff like EnemyAnimationFix, StuckEnemyFix, StaggerSync, KillIndicatorFix, and FlashlightSyncMaybeHopefully so that I can mitigate it further if I'm Client, so I am a bit biased on this front because I only do vanilla Client if speedrunning

you can get desynced from stuff like checkpoint door bioscans depending on Host (Kenny)

[timber shoal]

so you mean that you never do fine

[uneven kiln]

He walked down the ENTIRE reactor hall alone midwave!

on 20%

with nowhere to kite

[timber shoal]

the 11 syringes he ate were actually optimal

i’m not sure what you mean by “throwing,” he evidently was exploring a strategy that us pubs just aren’t advanced enough to comprehend yet

[uneven kiln]

he was throwing himself into every needle he found

[timber shoal]

acting out his black tar heroin addiction in game

some things never change 😔

[civic wave]

i'd win

[low radish]

Average moth gameplay

Who needs to have space to kite anyway

[burnt inlet]

Wow

[burnt inlet]

You don’t see the Strats pub

[burnt inlet]

Kiting is for solo players (also happy birthday mg player)

[low radish]

Thank you

[ocean arch]

Hey I'm very new to the game. I tried it about a year ago liked it but didn't have time to play. But now I do! I just finished the tutorial again. Any suggestions for how to start?

[tardy ingot]

#guides-and-reviews message

id recommend the channel in general as most guides there are very much spoiler free

(If you cant see the guides and reviews channel then you need to scroll up to the top to get to channels & roles to make it visible.

Aside from that, when making a lobby on here (do that rather than ingame matchmaking), try to specifiy that you are new and dont want to be carried (unless you want to lol)

[ocean arch]

Okay thanks.

[ripe hamlet]

rundown 1 is the best for starting

its not that hard and doesnt throw a ton of stuff at you

[thick stump]

and the objectives in rundown 1 is more like a tutorial for all the other rundowns

[ocean arch]

Cool. How are people in general here about playing with beginners? I guess I'm asking if I will be able to find people to play with?

[latent prawn]

funny you mention R1, in the rules where it says "no playing old rundowns," is R1 included in that or is the rule for alt rundowns? i was looking to LFG for R1 and make my way from there since i am also really new :p

[fathom ice]

old means og

you had og r1 and then they released alt r1 basically

[thick stump]

read #how-to-matchmake and post your invitation in #lfg-beginners

usually people are friendly and helpfull, but there also exceptions, because some people like to show off and speedrun everything but usually you gonna have a good time

[latent prawn]

so its alt R1 currently available? ergo it falls under the rule of "dont lfg for it"?

[fathom ice]

everything what's in the game is available

[latent prawn]

okay, thanks! ^^

[fathom ice]

even if you downpatch to play old stuff no one would really care so

[wet bear]

No, they will start witch hunt for playing og

[frail heart]

They remastered rundowns 1-6 which are now the “alt” versions. The original versions are no longer in the game and that’s what the rule is referring to

[latent prawn]

ah okay!

thank you!

[river dove]

Any tips for R8E1 with bots?

[grizzled patrol]

Find 3 players

[river dove]

Ahw rip

[sick mauve]

use lfg challenge: impossible

find friends challenge: impossible

[ripe hamlet]

go solo and long kite the protocol

[slim lodge]

just don't die bruh

[gentle forge]

Is there only one checkpoint in the first two rundowns in R1A1? Why is there a checkpoint in arguably the easiest level and, so far, no other levels lol?

[tiny wyvern]

There's only a checkpoint in R1A1

The next one you get is in R6A1

No checkpoints in between at all

Why?

No clue

[gentle forge]

Lmao

So bizarre

[tiny wyvern]

R1A1 is treated like a tutorial in many aspects, perhaps they threw the checkpoint in to intro it early and just leave you hanging

[burnt inlet]

one good thing about that checkpoint is that you can save scouts until after checkpoint, go back and kill scouts then die and reset to checkpoint

but like atp you can use mods

[full stream]

They forgot it and they decided to put 5 in one of the r6 missions

[gentle forge]

I don’t mind there not being checkpoints in general, I just find it strange a somewhat funny that they’re so extremely sparse

[civic wave]

it's a bit weird

checkpoints were originally only found in rundown 6 onwards

[digital mural]

The R1A1 checkpoint was added so "newbies won't struggle much" but I feel like it does more harm than good

[civic wave]

but they added a checkpoint to r1a1 (whenever it was) to help new players along a bit

[gentle forge]

Why do you feel like it does harm?

[digital mural]

Because it gives the impression the game will have more checkpoints and will be a not so challenging experience

Once they realize there isn't a cp until R6 they tend to get a bit demotivated

And I saw a couple cases like that back in the free weekend lol

[gentle forge]

Filtered

Yeah GTFO is absolutely not a mainstream game lol. It basically flies in the face of modern game design which has increasingly catered to the lowest common denominator

[grizzled patrol]

Hank! Do Not abbreviate Checkpoint!

[runic roost]

cuz funni :D

[burnt inlet]

Hank! Do not abbreviate command power!

[low radish]

I'm guessing it's because it's the first level

for people who didn't play the tutorial - this is their tutorial

Since R1A1 is the first level people usually play

[burnt inlet]

I still haven’t beaten the first tutorial

[winter breach]

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-kung-fu-panda-git-gud-scrub-gif-9908673464158315671

[low radish]

Explains why you're so bad then

can't even beat tutorial

[burnt inlet]

I beat the second one thought

[low radish]

Not enough

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[burnt inlet]

Also happy bday @low radish

[low radish]

You already said it yesterday i think

but thank you

[burnt inlet]

Well it’s not every day your birthday is two days in a row

[low radish]

It's not

Soy just didn't remove the role

my birthday was yesterday

[burnt inlet]

Ik

I’ll say happy birthday every day you have the role

[ocean spindle]

happy late bappy

[low radish]

Ah

[low radish]

Thank you :D

[ocean spindle]

:D

[frail heart]

guys my bday is in a month and a half can i get role pls

[ocean spindle]

no

[burnt inlet]

No

[low radish]

No

[timber shoal]

no

[full stream]

so where do you get the 10 digit passcode from r8a2?

[sudden nexus]

@digital mural

[burnt inlet]

R8B2 iirc but @digital mural has it in their name

[full stream]

oh

[full stream]

well then that makes things much easier

thanks

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[full stream]

its the wrong password?

i feel like im putting it in wrong

[burnt inlet]

You have to include the dash

Also I would read his name again

[full stream]

L16M4-BA1L5 right?

I probably misinputed the password

[ocean lance]

let me check

[burnt inlet]

There’s a joke you aren’t getting

[ocean lance]

it works in my game

[sudden nexus]

make sure your reading the password carefully

[ocean lance]

maybe verify the files?

[sudden nexus]

or restarting your game

[ocean lance]

one of the guys had to reinstall the game

[full stream]

oh nvm

[burnt inlet]

Team at what point is it not a joke anymore?

[full stream]

i get the joke now

[ocean lance]

??

[burnt inlet]

😭😭😭😭

[ocean lance]

oh your files were wrong

i get it

[burnt inlet]

There’s a website for it, lemme find it

https://andocas.com/gtfo/r8a2/

[frail heart]

ligma balls

[ocean spindle]

i put th link ini the vc chat >:[

goober

[full stream]

i dont read that chat man

[low radish]

I forgot but
How bad is the burst pistol?

[timber shoal]

amazing

[little pilot]

horrible

[timber shoal]

impeccable strength

[low radish]

Guys R2E1 solo with burst pistol and Veruta

I have amazing idea i know

(Is that even possible)

[past mesa]

Probs

[timber shoal]

hell yeah

[low radish]

You know what i'm actually going to try it

[timber shoal]

you just lock in and everything goes swimmingly

[low radish]

The 8 hybrids spawning on 2nd surge because why not:

[past mesa]

You can just kite that alarm

Tho

[low radish]

I could but if i can just kite the level the whole time then what's the meaning of using different guns if I won't actually use them

but on the other hand i think it would be impossible to hold

I mean I can definitely kite it

Although i have a feeling the hybrids will snipe me down

I always have issues with kiting alarms with hybrids

they snipe me

[past mesa]

One bullet stagger

When shooting

[low radish]

Oh yeah i forgot about that feature

[past mesa]

“Feature”

[low radish]

GTFO has no bugs trust

it's all features

[abstract epoch]

I pop in and see and adorable lizard and axolotl in the official GTFO Discord, this shit is real

[burnt inlet]

@timber shoal you got another fan

[abstract epoch]

"Grass Allergy"

[burnt inlet]

Yep🥀

[abstract epoch]

I think the discord alone has made me love this game even more

[burnt inlet]

Spend too much time inside playing GTFO to get that role

[abstract epoch]

Real

How long is "too much time"

[burnt inlet]

Enough to speedrun

About 500 hours since Feb

[sudden nexus]

hop on gtfr?

[burnt inlet]

+-50

[sudden nexus]

or watch we in hackett

[burnt inlet]

Kinda working ngl

[sudden nexus]

w0rking 🤮

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[abstract epoch]

Damn, so just total? Or did you leave the game open for 400+ hours ._.

[burnt inlet]

No I played every hour of those

[abstract epoch]

Straight??

[burnt inlet]

Nop

[abstract epoch]

Good T^T

What's the "Scout Friend" one?

[burnt inlet]

Getting the role just req you to beat a level within a specific time

[burnt inlet]

We love scouts

[abstract epoch]

?

I would like to mention now that I am relatively new

[burnt inlet]

The enemy

Scout

[abstract epoch]

. . . ?

Sleepers?

[burnt inlet]

Nop

Did you do r1a1?

[abstract epoch]

Ye?

I think so

[burnt inlet]

The thick walking one

[abstract epoch]

Wait

I think I did r8a1

[burnt inlet]

Smh

[abstract epoch]

Idr

[burnt inlet]

Do R1

[abstract epoch]

Does it tell me this stuff or...?

[burnt inlet]

R1 is tutorial

R8 not so much

[abstract epoch]

Ah

I mean, I beat R8A1

That's it tho

[burnt inlet]

All A tiers are easy

[abstract epoch]

Makes sense

Mostly stealth

[burnt inlet]

Is the C-E tiers which you gotta worry about

But do R1

Generally easiest rundown

[abstract epoch]

Alr

Ty

[burnt inlet]

🫡

Have fun with the scout

[timber shoal]

yay!

[timber shoal]

hello! glad you’ve hopped aboard gtfo :3

[digital mural]

Welcome to the complex

[timber shoal]

i find it rather simple

[grizzled patrol]

Quick! Run while you still Gets samdowned

[sudden nexus]

a2

[burnt inlet]

Right side R8 isn’t in this convo

[gentle forge]

Do boosters benefit everyone even if only one person equips it? For example, some aggressive boosters impact multiple tools like c-foam portion and tracker cpu speed, but obviously you can't run both tools, so how does that work?

[prime musk]

no they're personal. those are just 2 effects on same booster that you just can't get both of

[hard nexus]

unless u run tool swapper hehe hoho

[ripe hamlet]

r3a3 moment

[prime musk]

i mean

it is an easy level

it is just harder than most/all other A tiers

[gentle forge]

Oh.. That's interesting lol. What's the point?

[prime musk]

it gives the booster a bit of versatility i suppose

[low radish]

R8 is like the end of the game

I'd recommend doing F1 first and R8 someday else since new enemies and high difficulty and all

R1 is like tutorial rundown, an introduction

[gentle forge]

Also, sometimes my friends say that certain expeditions are locked when they swear they had completed them before - any idea why this happens and how to fix it?

[prime musk]

in order to host an expedition, you need to complete the preceding expedition.

for E-tiers, it requires you to have beaten every mission except 1 in the rundown, but not necessarily the preceding, since the E tier clear can count towards it.

[low radish]

Exception is E tiers where you need to beat every mission

Yeah

If you want to get to C2, beat C1 and so on

[grizzled patrol]

there is a bug that shows you wrong progression when looking at rundowns while in the lobby

[gentle forge]

Yeah that must be what I'm talking about - how do you fix it?

[grizzled patrol]

also hpbd @low radish

[gentle forge]

exit the lobby?

[grizzled patrol]

yeah just rejoin

[gentle forge]

actually that didn't seem to change anything

maybe he's just mistaken

[low radish]

It already went by but thank you

[grizzled patrol]

sorry dint have it marked on my calendar

[low radish]

If for example your friend has beaten R2E1 but didn't do R2D2. Beating R2E1 won't unlock it

This could be another scenario of this happening

It only gives you a clear, doesn't unlock it

[low radish]

Don't worry about it! All good :]

For now I can just guess what's going on really

[civic wave]

The wrong level info on the lobby screen happens as follows

Join lobby as client for Rundown X
Host changes to a level in rundown Y
Check the rundown screen while still in the lobby
Your clear info for rundown X will be visually imposed on the screen for rundown Y

[gentle forge]

so just to be clear leaving the lobby or leaving and rejoining should fix it right

[uneven kiln]

I will add that bug to bug wiki

[grizzled patrol]

wait it wasnt on it???

just looked it up, it misses a lot of bugs 🥀

this looks pretty raw to me

[fallen ermine]

Guys, urgent question, how does Schaeffer communicate with the main characters? Through the cortex or through the intercom? My friend and I are arguing about this.

[grizzled patrol]

intercom

the objective is through the chip

[fallen ermine]

Thanks

[abstract epoch]

Hello! Me too :3

[timber shoal]

how're you enjoying the game so far?

[abstract epoch]

Very fun

I got into horror not too long ago and it was in my steam family and looked fun, so I decided to play it

It was worth it, and I'm probably gonna buy it for myself so we can have two copies in the family

[keen sinew]

yo boys do anyone knows the mod that u can change cosmetics to the bots?

[carmine grotto]

Cinematic mod allows you to change the weapons, and cosmetics but you may want to get devious lick and clean clothes as well for access to all clothes and to make them clean

[timber shoal]

awesome! happy you’re enjoying yourself :3

[grizzled patrol]

The archive

[keen sinew]

got it just now

ty

[abstract epoch]

Ty :3

[dense dew]

hi guys i need help with mission it is not working r6c1 the command on terminal if anyone knows please dm me it is uplink command

[burnt inlet]

type "commands" into the term

:3

[dense dew]

it is very specific

can i call u mat

mate

[burnt inlet]

sure

[thick stump]

just type 'COMMANDS' into the terminal and it gonna show you all commands you can use on that specific terminal

[burnt inlet]

it was in fact R8C1

with the uplink thingy

[timber shoal]

sup mate

[burnt inlet]

ur my mate

(those who snow)

[thick stump]

but commands should have still solved the problem, right? 🤔

[timber shoal]

real shit

[burnt inlet]

i think its their first time doing double uplinks

@timber shoal when can you play?

[timber shoal]

not soon 😭

[burnt inlet]

vro 🥀

[timber shoal]

this weekend has so much scripted stuff that i’m obligated to attend

[burnt inlet]

ts pmo 🥀

[burnt inlet]

brazil skip

and cell skip

ez

now u dont need to go there anymore

[timber shoal]

monday might work but not for a hot second

[thick stump]

doesn't the right commands show on the screen? 🤔

[timber shoal]

esp today

[burnt inlet]

yes but like doing them in order yanno

some people just might not get it

[thick stump]

ohh maybe, I am not sure how I have done it the first time, too long ago xD

[burnt inlet]

yea like ive seen many people have troubles with initiating them

[dense dew]

guys someone online?т it is been so long i try to do smth

[frail heart]

What is your issue

[burnt inlet]

they dont know how to start the double uplink in R8C1

[thick stump]

I am in a call with them

the uplink_connect 'adress' doesn't work

it says terminal_572 and it doesn'T work on it

[sudden nexus]

is it typed correct

make sure you dont confuse 0 with 8

[thick stump]

they are writing it correctly

maybe bugged

I don't know as well

[thick stump]

can you help them, I think it is a bug, I can't tell why the uplink_connect command doesn't work

[frail heart]

Ask him if he tried dropping into the level and then while dropping exited out of the expedition

and then dropped again

[burnt inlet]

i think he called you (i asked him he said he didnt)

[thick stump]

I am not in a call with them anymore

[tiny wyvern]

Uplink bug most likely

[minor fractal]

Can you be more specific?

The command will work if you are uplink bugged

it just has consequences

[burnt inlet]

it wasnt them who had the issue

[thick stump]

it seemed that it was just a bug, Frosty helped them in the end

[full stream]

Alright, I got one more mission left, r8e2. How bad is it in comparison with the other missions

[uneven kiln]

I think the level speaks for itself very well within the first 60 seconds of dropping in

[full stream]

well I’ll see tomorrow on how bad it’s gonna be

[digital mural]

Eeeeeh

Hardest level in the game and has almost every single enemy
I think that tells you all you need to know

[full stream]

I see

Bc it took 3 hours to do d2

I mean we did it thankfully

[ocean spindle]

:D

2nd cleear of d2 i got

hamby

[full stream]

Was that really your second?

Damn

[ocean spindle]

:3

not a levvel i pllay lotts ksks

i got 2 on e2

2 iin e2 too though

[fathom ice]

did u just look for different people after checkpoint

[covert jay]

no we went to bed and resumed like 8 pm the next day lol

[fathom ice]

big

[digital mural]

Slowest R8D2 clear WR any%

[full stream]

….

What the actual fuck

I mean….you completed it

But damn

[grizzled patrol]

Wait, so it was a 12 hour Run?

[covert jay]

Like 2-3 hours at the most

Idk prob less

[grizzled patrol]

One hell of a Long sleep

[gentle forge]

for c-foam portion boosters, how does that work?

does it impact both singular blobs and charges?

[winter breach]

it impacts the blob size

requiring you to use less of the tool you have for cfoam when it comes to reinforcing doors

[gentle forge]

so if you do a full charge, does it use less tool?

or do you have to do singular blobs to get the benefit?

[winter breach]

nope

you just get more value of the tool

[gentle forge]

Damn I'm confused lol

[winter breach]

lets say you have 100% cfoam portion boosters and you decide to use 20% of the cfoam tool

bc of the boosters the cfoam launcher will throw out cfoam like you did double

or in other words the amount of cfoam that is thrown in that moment is like throwing 40% tool from cfoam

[gentle forge]

So does that mean a door will be fully reinforced with a 50% charge as opposed to 100%?

[winter breach]

yep

[fathom ice]

your 100% charge will consume half with 50% booster

[gentle forge]

and it throws out double c-foam, but it uses the same amount of tool percentage?

[fathom ice]

it's the other way around

[gentle forge]

I feel like I'm getting mixed messages here lol

or maybe I'm just having a slow brain day

[fathom ice]

you're losing 10% out of 100%

with foam portion

like it's same 12 blobs but it consumes 6

[gentle forge]

so basically you would still fully reinforce a door with 9 blobs or whatever it is, but instead of using let's say 15% tool it would use like 10% tool ?

[fathom ice]

yes

[gentle forge]

ok I think I understand lol

thanks

[frail heart]

btw

if you wanna be giga efficient

#gtfo-chat message

[safe cradle]

false

if you take foam launcher, you'll notice one thing is the percentage, another is the "ammo"

foam efficiency means that a charge costs less ammo

for example, let's assume a full charge is 10 blobs, and uses 50 of ammo out of 100 (actual numbers are much different, this is just to give you an idea)

100% foam efficiency means that a full charge will still be the same number of blobs, but will use HALF the ammo

due to how the game handles fraction (and due to 100% of the foam launcher being, what, 32 ammo) it's better if you use bigger charges to make the most of the booster

What Snowball said IMHO makes sense if you manage to land the charge on a non-round number, and of course a full charge is a bad idea because it's more foam than the door can take anyway

I still think that it's kinda splitting hairs tbh, just dont go blob by blob for a variety of reasons

I remember doing some super-basics tests 2 years ago on this btw #gtfo-related-questions message

I dont doubt whatever Snowball did is more precise since I didnt use cconsole or whatever to have extensive tests and had to rely merely on the boosters I had

(Note that I used full charges in the example to be sure that the number of blobs were the same and to have a baseline, rest is just math)

On the other hand it's true that 2 blobs is perhaps a good compromise between "easy" to control and efficient as along as you manage to have whatever foam efficiency you get to have that number use half (or slightly more, really) "foam ammo".

[lone mortar]

the holy wall of text continues

[fathom ice]

the booster research

[safe cradle]

Yeah to be fair I also realized I wrote way too much

[devout palm]

what mission should i do first?

[timber shoal]

r1a1’s probably your best bet, right after the tutorial

[devout palm]

thanks

[digital mural]

Training (tutorial)

[devout palm]

i did that already lol

[timber shoal]

no problem! if you need anything else don’t hesitate to ask!

[digital mural]

Then you can start with Rundown 1 which is a bigger tutorial or Rundown 6, but R6 gets complicated really fast

[carmine grotto]

still think that r6 teaches better than r1-3. The variety of missions an incorporation of nearly every in game element.

[hearty patrol]

When do respawn rooms begin to appear

[digital mural]

R5

[hearty patrol]

Oh thats rlly far into the game

[digital mural]

Yes

Also I recommend not spoiling yourself

[hearty patrol]

Okok sorry

I was just curious

Kinda thought it'd be in every level

[digital mural]

[full stream]

How do you do silent shot?

bc I thought it was only for doors

[digital mural]

You shoot then change your weapon and then change back

Almost frame perfect

[full stream]

[undone raven]

It cant be that hard

i do ts on accident all the time

[digital mural]

[upper ginkgo]

it's def not frame perfect lol

you could probably effortlessly replicate it consistently with 100ms ping

[undone raven]

Im gonna replicate you effortlessly

[upper ginkgo]

adenine cytosine guanine thymine

i could clear r8e2 with 3 clones of me

don't want to brag or anything

[undone raven]

Wb uracil

[upper ginkgo]

wtf is uracil

[undone raven]

Same??? we would have perfect comms

[undone raven]

5th nitrogenous base (thing thats in your dna)

[upper ginkgo]

my clones would fight each other over dmg tbh

[undone raven]

Yeah actually my clones would all be bastards nvm 😭

[prime cliff]

erm actually its in your rna 🤓

[upper ginkgo]

yeah dummy

maybe you should retake some high school biology

[undone raven]

Erm actually uracil can be found in dna via deamination of cytosine 👆 🤓

[timber shoal]

shut up twink

you’re not allowed to be smart

[undone raven]

Damn twinks arent allowed to be studious

[timber shoal]

oh no they are

just not you

sorry

[undone raven]

Damn not allowed to be studious by the request of dodo druid

[timber shoal]

yep

thanks for understanding 🥰

[full stream]

So do you have the weapon you want to shoot out first or during the swap?

Where you swap to the actual weapon

[digital mural]

You shoot with the weapon you want to shoot, then you swap to another weapon then you swap to your initial weapon

Example: scattergun > X weapon > scattergun

[full stream]

Hmm I see, I guess I’m just really getting the timing wrong while doing it

[sturdy glen]

if you want it to be silent you cant swap to another gun

has to be something else

[full stream]

Really?

Damn

[sturdy glen]

itll make the sound of whatever you swap to

[full stream]

I just swapped to my main

Main weapon

[sturdy glen]

you can also do it by swapping to the gun from not a gun and shooting quickly

aka the reverse

[full stream]

So I’m guessing just do choke mod into hammer then choke mod

[sturdy glen]

not sure if anyone has fully investigated it or not

presumably the swap after shooting is more effective since you dont have weapon pull out delay

[full stream]

Ik kind of how to do certain bugs like void bug

Where you stare at a corner

[full stream]

Hmm I see

[sturdy glen]

if you want to do the shot second then make sure to ADS when pulling the gun out so you can shoot earlier

you also cant be host

[full stream]

It shoots faster?

[sturdy glen]

im realizing no one has said that yet

[full stream]

….

[sturdy glen]

how has no one said that

[full stream]

Damn

[sturdy glen]

bro what the fuck 3 ppl responded and didnt say the most important part

[full stream]

Ok

[sturdy glen]

yeah you have to be client

more ping the better

[sturdy glen]

you can bypass some of the pull out time of guns by doing it

[full stream]

Well I’ve been hosting while doing it

[sturdy glen]

its generally useful outside of silent shotting as well

good tech to use

[full stream]

Lmao

[sturdy glen]

you can technically still "silent shot" as host but it wont ever have the sound negation property

[full stream]

Hmmm ok

[sturdy glen]

like other ppl will hear the sound changes

but itll always wake stuff properly

[full stream]

I see

So, must be client while try to shoot when aiming

Got it

[calm pulsar]

Kinda simple to pass over info you think of as "common knowledge"

[prime musk]

i have always silent shot by swapping from melee to gun fast enough
didn't know other order was even possible

[calm pulsar]

Same

[sturdy glen]

I didnt read up I just saw wrong stuff

xd

[sturdy glen]

best practice is to just do both cuz its free to

[fathom ice]

yeah it's always quick swap from melee

when i was a pub i was charging my melee before quick swapping

[sturdy glen]

yea idk if that helps or not I see a good amount of ppl do it and I do it as well

it seems like it helps but its probably placebo

[fathom ice]

i think so

[sturdy glen]

I do swing shoot shove

[fathom ice]

making the chance higher !!

idk why shoot --> shove works actually

loud foam is still banger

[frail heart]

I love when someone’s hel pp starts shooting hel rifle sounds

[hushed pagoda]

more technical question, what specific settings should I be looking to lower/tone down so framerate drops aren't has bad?

game generally runs smoothly but, excluding some specific levels namely reactors, I tend to take shotguns and fight close range, and frames drop even a little when just a few enemiesg get close

i already have vsync disabled, FPS capped at 60

[fathom ice]

play at lowest

[runic roost]

I know anti aliasing is aslways a bad culprit if its not off already

[hushed pagoda]

pretty sure I already have that off, i don't recall the rest of my settings off the top of my head

apart from that and vsync being off

[hushed pagoda]

okeh

[grizzled patrol]

Invest into a GPU with more Gigs

[runic roost]

And a cpu with more cigs

Takes the edge off the motherboard yk

[grizzled patrol]

Edge?

[runic roost]

Open it

[runic roost]

Open

[grizzled patrol]

I cant

[runic roost]

LIAR

[grizzled patrol]

You stuck a piece of gum into that fucking lock

[runic roost]

You waste my time now give awp skin

[runic roost]

Nah bro you jammed the lock when you tried the first time

[safe cradle]

Dont know if anyone mentioned it but you can only as client. Nevermind, Chilldude did, my bad.

If the host has silentshotfix then you cant at all if I understand that correctly.

[grizzled patrol]

Have Seen silent shots with this Mod at Host, it didnt really fix much 🥀

[full stream]

Lmao, thanks for letting me know again

[uneven kiln]

SilentShotFix still doesn't fix shooting through opening doors silently, if that is what you mean

It's kinda dumb but Silent Shots and Opening Door Silent Shots are two completely different things because you don't even need to swap weapons for the latter

[tardy ingot]

There is also loading a different room „silent shots“

[uneven kiln]

Is this just being far enough away? Because that one in my mind is fine if you're taking ridiculously far shots

[tiny wyvern]

welcome to gtfo, where if you want to break it you'll be able to do it front, back, upside down and sideways, sometimes all at the same time

[uneven kiln]

golden would you like to see the list

What I've been doing is just holding off on editing the page because I got a really big influx of bugs not listed and I'm going to be doing a giant edit

[tardy ingot]

Nono
You can load a different room by somewhat clipping into stuff right?

(usually the room you were in then unloads weirdly)

when you then shoot, you are technically in that room. So your shot behaves like coming from there

examples for where you would be able to execute this are r6c2 sec last security door
R6AX last sec door (its how you open the door early aswell)

or basically any location where you can get void bug

[uneven kiln]

🥀

Adding to list

I didn't know that was a side effect

[tardy ingot]

its on the speedrun glitch/exploit list actually

[uneven kiln]

btw where do you get it in I think R8C2

I think you and or Frosty got an insanely long deload

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[uneven kiln]

One of you guys got a super long deload, like 10 or so seconds

it was during a speedrun too so it was played out

I believe it was during R8 part 2, unsure which level

[tardy ingot]

[uneven kiln]

I want to say it was R8C2 because it was around the time you were talking about how the datasphere plugin sucked (it does)

[limpid canyon]

is it possible to beat r2d2 with bots?

[ripe hamlet]

yes

[limpid canyon]

aight i guess ill give it a try

[ripe hamlet]

it would be painful

but you can try

[timber shoal]

it fucking sucks but yeah you certainly can

[limpid canyon]

good point fuck that lmao

[limpid canyon]

if i cant beat r1c1 with bots then i wont even touch this one without players lmao

[timber shoal]

probably wise

[ripe hamlet]

yeah lets not do that

if you cant even solo r1c1 r2d2 is going to be a nightmare

[limpid canyon]

yeah

tbf tho the bots have terrible resource managment

[burnt inlet]

R1C1 isn’t even a real reactor

[limpid canyon]

what

[burnt inlet]

Wdym I love it when I lose 21% and all 3 of them run towards me with medi

[timber shoal]

its the tutorial to reactors imo

[burnt inlet]

Not even that

[timber shoal]

doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t

[burnt inlet]

R3A3 is a tutorial to reactors

[timber shoal]

its a better tutorial to reactors

but that doesn’t make r1c1 not a reactor

[burnt inlet]

R1C1 is a special reactor

[limpid canyon]

i love that!!! i love it when they blindly run towards you, taking all hits and notz shooting the enemies

[burnt inlet]

It’s a reactor just not a real reactor

[timber shoal]

wait czech have you played any of r2d2 yet

[limpid canyon]

tbh r1c1 is duable with people cus you can manage your resources but those pesky bots will just loot everything and leave no planning

[burnt inlet]

Adam id say move to R3 for now

[limpid canyon]

yes

i played it twice

3 man team, the furthest i got is 8 wave

[burnt inlet]

It’s doable with bots I did it I think three times now

[limpid canyon]

yes yes i have done some missions there

[burnt inlet]

Fire ngl

[limpid canyon]

you are a mad man holy shit lmao

[timber shoal]

oh good shit

[limpid canyon]

with no boosters too lol

but quite stressful

[burnt inlet]

Nah it’s just hel rifle and play super safe

Snooze fest

[timber shoal]

wait one sec

[burnt inlet]

I don’t use boobters

[limpid canyon]

the one with the thermal scope or the one you charge up?

[ripe hamlet]

r1c1 is a real snoozefest

[fathom ice]

gz

[limpid canyon]

im a noob so they are good for me lol

[burnt inlet]

Charge up

[limpid canyon]

dude

you are fucking insane lmao

[limpid canyon]

ooo

i kinda like that one

[burnt inlet]

Show the ”QoL” mods folder

[fathom ice]

wait is this old

[ripe hamlet]

r2d2 has some nice code hunt in between

[burnt inlet]

A lot of people do

[limpid canyon]

lot of resources too

[limpid canyon]

i really liked it against normal enemies but carbine just knocks it out of the park for me

i love to play aggresivly

[timber shoal]

oh yeah i forgot to mention that i was running a mod that removes all the enemies from the reactor waves

it makes the experience better

[burnt inlet]

Fair enough ig, you sure you’re thinking of the right one though?

[timber shoal]

wdym

i mean it’s been a sec

[limpid canyon]

yes ot cam pierce through enemies and it has like 15 rounds in the mag?

[burnt inlet]

Not 15

5

[limpid canyon]

hold up

lemme consult the wiki lmao

[fathom ice]

my bad

i take it back

[uneven kiln]

~ stopallwave killenemies god ammo disinfect noclip instantscan we won guys

[burnt inlet]

You’re thinking of the hel Gun

[limpid canyon]

AHHHHHHH

wait

but you said charge up?

[ripe hamlet]

hel gun actually peak tho

[burnt inlet]

0.4 seconds I think it is

[fathom ice]

hel rifle also has a charge up

[limpid canyon]

i thought hel gun was chargeup and hel rifle has thermal

[limpid canyon]

oh?

[burnt inlet]

Hel Gun has like 1 second or smth like that

[fathom ice]

precision rifle is thermal

[limpid canyon]

lmao i didnt know that

OHHHHHHHHH

OHHHHHHHHH

[fathom ice]

hel rifle is alternative to hel gun

[burnt inlet]

No precision rifle is thermal

[prime musk]

completeobjective 0 my favorite

[ripe hamlet]

the humble cconsole

[limpid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/aaa-wire-jesse-gif-15286962507291811283

[fathom ice]

omg

is this

ZED

[prime musk]

omg

is this

SKY

[fathom ice]

DIE

[prime musk]

im putting you on a hit list moth

[burnt inlet]

😭

[ripe hamlet]

what does the news say

[fathom ice]

i thought they already are

[burnt inlet]

Why you love EPA’s

[prime musk]

?????

i hate them

[burnt inlet]

Zed has a vehicle (the church) which moves at 30 kmh

[limpid canyon]

something with a tractor???

[limpid canyon]

HA

[fathom ice]

zed did you rob a tractor market

without me??????

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[prime musk]

this wasn't meant for public eyes

[burnt inlet]

They can barely understand it

[ripe hamlet]

zed owned a mortal engine?

[neat vapor]

congrats how bad was it

[burnt inlet]

Owns*

[uneven kiln]

major lagfest: openall door completeobjective 0 killenemies in that order

[prime musk]

listen sky im just like dead and gone for a while im sorry i will deliver on my stuff

[prime musk]

have you tried openall 4

[fathom ice]

you owe me a tractor

and a cell_727

(gpu)

[prime musk]

i have a plan let me cook

[tardy ingot]

what are these numbers moth

[uneven kiln]

no but I have tried spawnenemy squidward

[timber shoal]

uhh it’s been a sec

it wasn’t awful though

definitely not consistent

[neat vapor]

i tried r1c1 a while back but never put much effort into it because its such a boring start

[limpid canyon]

what guns did you use?

[prime musk]

i mean the start is like 5 minutes and then it's 30 spent shooting

[timber shoal]

sawed off / hel rifle

[burnt inlet]

Hel Gun has a higher charge that’s all I know (at least I perceive it as so)

[limpid canyon]

it took me like 6-8 tries with my friends lmao

[tardy ingot]

just fully send
shoot all rooms

stealthing the start is not necessary, so doing it fast isnt just more fun but also doesnt waste as much time

[limpid canyon]

ooo sawed off nice

[neat vapor]

im putting my effort in r3a3 instead because its more fun

[keen seal]

0,2 vs 0,12

[tardy ingot]

but 1 second... moth
1 second

[burnt inlet]

It’s not actually one second holy

[prime musk]

hel rifle is 0.12
hel gun is 0.2
burst cannon is 0.7(?)

[limpid canyon]

appearntly its easier so, that sounds good

[burnt inlet]

Samesame

[fathom ice]

bc is .7 ye

[limpid canyon]

what about the machine gun uhhh verdutta i think its called?

[uneven kiln]

I’m going to full send and then fail to see the softlock in the first zone with sleeping enemies then reset

[prime musk]

it is 16 years and 4 moons

[tardy ingot]

should be 0.7 yep

[neat vapor]

r3a3 is probably harder but that might change for solo but i havent thought about it

[tardy ingot]

mgs are 0.4 for both no?

[prime musk]

r3a3 is def a harder solo than r1c1

[limpid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-breaking-bad-walter-white-wtf-wth-gif-26435332

[timber shoal]

it probably is but it’s also more fun than r1c1

[neat vapor]

youre right but i have more fun reactors now (r3a3 and singulate reactor)

[limpid canyon]

looking at the wiki, they are less waves

so could be better?

[prime musk]

kinda depends a lot of if you're above or below the threshold of getting the codes

[timber shoal]

they come from behind

[tardy ingot]

imagine if there was an enemy softlock
(that wasnt ||r8e2 kraken|| )

[prime musk]

but everything about it is harder

[timber shoal]

split spawns

[limpid canyon]

thats what she said!

but sentries can fix that

somewhat

[neat vapor]

theres spots to fix that for most waves

[timber shoal]

nah, full waves are hard for sentry to solo

[neat vapor]

iirc i dont see back spawns until wave 6

[timber shoal]

yeah i’m just saying it contributes to difficulty

[neat vapor]

mhm it does

[limpid canyon]

well for one sentry yes

[prime musk]

in practice it only matters on wave 6 since you can spawnblock every other wave without straggler issues
and on wave 6 you can spawnpush/highroll no backspawns quite easily

[timber shoal]

since all the enemies funnel nicely on r1c1

[neat vapor]

i was trying sniper sentry really hard but burst should make it easier

[limpid canyon]

for two burst sentries and one sniper sentry with a bot that nonstop bioscans, should be duable

[neat vapor]

its true solo

[prime musk]

do you know the sniper sentry spot

[limpid canyon]

oh

lame

[neat vapor]

for which room

[ripe hamlet]

r3a3 solo doesnt seem that hard

[prime musk]

for holding front in r3a3

[ripe hamlet]

it just has ass ending

[timber shoal]

difficult enough

[neat vapor]

i might where is the spot

[fathom ice]

THE spot

okay i stop xd

[prime musk]

shameless plug https://youtu.be/K9WuOtfkDK8?si=N4dOVGklT803W0w-

[neat vapor]

oh that spot

yeah ik it

[fathom ice]

how did you

there's no time stamp even

[neat vapor]

its in the thumbnail

[fathom ice]

no?????

[prime musk]

the holding spot is

[fathom ice]

yes

[prime musk]

the sniper sentry spot isn't

[neat vapor]

you can infer the placement of the sentry

[fathom ice]

where is it

[neat vapor]

at door to your left

[fathom ice]

no

[prime musk]

wrong

[neat vapor]

its bridge my bad

[prime musk]

you put it at top of staircase behind you

[neat vapor]

does that change anything from door

[fathom ice]

yes

[prime musk]

with funnel set up it basically has full uptime into wave, even when shooters are strafing back and forth

[neat vapor]

wave 5 is where im struggling

[fathom ice]

you hold in A of alarm zone till timer ends and then u go pull it

[neat vapor]

thats what ive been doing i just have to do it better

[fathom ice]

what are u playing

[neat vapor]

sawed off / hel rifle

[prime musk]

do you die to wave or alarm or cleanup (after scans)

[fathom ice]

u just spam sawed off on alarm

it's like the most heated part

cuz of lightning for me personally

[prime musk]

sky even with sawed off spam positioning/target prio issues kill you EASILY there

[neat vapor]

i think it was early in the alarm

[fathom ice]

if u wanna buy time

u can find e trip

and close mine big door

[neat vapor]

its been a while so i can probably do it better

[fathom ice]

you get like 3 sets of scans

[upper ginkgo]

me hard focusing the shooter 100m away and not the 5 strikers trying to lick my ass

[neat vapor]

ill probably give it an attempt today

[ripe hamlet]

me getting bully by an army of shooters while cleaning up on strikers

[limpid canyon]

im willing to bet you gonna complete it before i do r2d2 lmao

[neat vapor]

probably not i dont play much solo now

im running out of ones i want to do

[upper ginkgo]

just get duo pilled

[fathom ice]

true

the brainrot

[neat vapor]

ive been doing e2 duo its ok

[fathom ice]

woa did you win

[neat vapor]

no were mid

[hardy grotto]

wild you’re saying that of all ppl vox

[upper ginkgo]

im just picky with my duo partners

[fathom ice]

can i be your duo partner

[upper ginkgo]

unlike some other people...