gtfo-related-questions

[sudden nexus]

r2d2

[topaz anvil]

that isnt duo trials tho

[sudden nexus]

yea

pretty awesome right

[topaz anvil]

guess everyone just hates me 😔

[sudden nexus]

i dont like duo trials

[wraith kindle]

What would be the best weapon combo for the part in R6C2 where ||there is the 3 hybrid error alarm, and we leave 1 person behind to clear the hybrid waves by himself?|| I'm thinking Sawed Off + Sniper, is there something better?

[frail heart]

Scattergun is always a safe pick

[tardy ingot]

sawed off and sniper is probably the best combo "just" for that part

but sawed off and scatter work pretty much as well but you also get to 2 shot mom

remember what they took from us

3 shot sniper solod the hybrids so easily :(

[upper ginkgo]

scatter also helps you instakill mom

[wraith kindle]

I'm the host :/ (And I feel more comfortable with Sniper)

[upper ginkgo]

i mean it's perfectly fine to run sniper for this part

but you did ask if there's something better (to which there is)

[wraith kindle]

Fair, thank you!

[frail heart]

I think there’s a stigma against host scatter

It’s the same as client scatter if there are no bosses/nms

And even so one mum doesn’t make it not worth

[wraith kindle]

Thanks, that's pretty comprehensive

I'll ponder

[tardy ingot]

tbf you wouldnt run host scatter here for the reason that youd just take client scatter and not lose any value

but yea sniper works fine if you have other weapons for mom on your team

genuinely, sniper into mom is horrible, so just try and kill babies with sawed off

[wraith kindle]

also, about 6 months ago, you promised me a picture/video of a consistent mine setup for killing tanks, would that still be possible to get? (We still haven not cleared ||R4C3||)

[frail heart]

Oh

[tardy ingot]

[frail heart]

Damn you still remember that

[tardy ingot]

I think I also said it back then, but try to not get stuck on mining tanks

[wraith kindle]

We use 3 foam granades on mom, we can kill her with a wet noodle at that point

[tardy ingot]

also it might just be the r8d1 tank frosty, but from kenny testing its not consistent with multiple players

[frail heart]

Iirc back then after some testing I said that it couldn’t be 100% consistent

[tardy ingot]

if you test alone tank behaviour can be consistent

[wraith kindle]

I'm sure I would have forgotten if we have cleared that level at any point :D

but we just gave up and move on

until we get better

[tardy ingot]

simply use 1 scatter, problem solved foam can go elswhere (ngl scatter is just so stupid, the 1 gun that just breaks bosses)

[uneven kiln]

3 foam nades? it should take only 1 for a mom

[wraith kindle]

I don't intend to, but I'd put learning how to deal with a tank during an error alarm if I can cheese just this one with mines

[wraith kindle]

Ye, we make sure

[tardy ingot]

you will have to deal with that scenario a few more times

[upper ginkgo]

gotta be triple sure the mom is foamed

[wraith kindle]

I'm sure I will :(

[uneven kiln]

I've never really bothered trying to mine down a tank aside the very first one in R4C1

[upper ginkgo]

it matters less since scatter exists

[uneven kiln]

scatter of gun

[upper ginkgo]

back in og r4 it was a viable strat cause your boss kill was just dogshit sniper and like choke mod

nvm

burst cannon existed

[wraith kindle]

Well I mean we chain the foams while we kill her so she can't shit out anything

[uneven kiln]

ah

i see

[wraith kindle]

Anyway, if I ever get the tank mine setup, I'd be super grateful

I think we'll have a few sessions on R6C2 anyway, so I'm not in a hurry

[tardy ingot]

[uneven kiln]

OG burst cannon goes so hard

I watched Goat use it

[tardy ingot]

you rly shouldnt need to foam a 2nd time unless you are all 4 shooting AR only into her

[uneven kiln]

just use 4 bats!

[tardy ingot]

4 bats genuinely work better than 4 ARs lol

just stop her birth

(can even do so with 2 if cracked)

[wraith kindle]

I don't know what the others are doing, I do 2 clips of sawed off, and 1 bullet of high cal usually

[uneven kiln]

it sounds like they're doing a whole lot of nothing

[wraith kindle]

it's what I'm working with

I bullied 2 MMO players and somebody who does not play anything competitive/difficult into playing GTFO with me

and they are incredibly tenacious, we have been at it for years at this point

and we slowly cleared every A, B, most Cs, some Ds, and the easy Es

[uneven kiln]

2 mags of sawed off and a bullet of high cal is... like 800 damage assuming you get all those shots on tumors

so that's like 80% of her health

[wraith kindle]

probably some of the scatter misses, I don't know, I try my best

I do think I hit most of it

[tardy ingot]

that dmg alone nearly kills a mom btw

[uneven kiln]

that should be very near a kill

[tardy ingot]

you are obviously gonna lose some dmg since host with shotgun is a bit rough

but even if you only do half (which would be quite oof)

[wraith kindle]

maybe I'm whiffing more then I think then

[tardy ingot]

youd still do 50% of her hp

alone

[wraith kindle]

meh, what can I do, I'm just trying to find setups that are comfortable for everybody

[tardy ingot]

its technically 1000 btw

you can kill a mom with that dmg

(as client its not rly an issue)

[uneven kiln]

ye

[tardy ingot]

[uneven kiln]

it's a fine setup for what you're doing; I'm just wondering about the teammate contributions

are they maybe shooting the body?

(serious question)

[wraith kindle]

Yeah, I remember I did a full reload when there was only 1 tumor left, and then finished the 1 tumor with 1 shot, I think they are missing a lot

also 1 person is already turning back to the hybrids mid-boss kill I think?

[wraith kindle]

If I was not hosting, I'd already be a scattergun main, I just hate the idea of losing value to such a random thing

[uneven kiln]

she should be dead before the next wave of those hybrids

otherwise yeah it does get messy really fast

babies, fog, hybrids

nasty

[tardy ingot]

tbf even with host scatter you usually do like 800 dmg easily

[wraith kindle]

I think we kill her before the 3rd or 4th wave? Pretty early, so the hybrid wave arrives mid-kill

[tardy ingot]

client scatter just does more and you also can do it brainlessly

[undone raven]

If you shoot 2 smalls with one scatter that's value

[uneven kiln]

eh the wave itself doesnt matter so much as waiting for a good interval to open the Main Bulkhead so you get max amount of time possible with mom kill so you don't get hybrids on you

[wraith kindle]

yeah it's just in my head, but I want one of the to scatter if we need it, because it's just stronger
it's not like I can't contribute a lot with other weapons

[uneven kiln]

but 3-4 waves total being spawned is good enough speed so you dont waste too much ammo

[wraith kindle]

luckily she basically never triggers, we are pretty good at that

[uneven kiln]

that's good at least, I'm mainly worried about the rest of the level since the mom isn't the final obstacle

[tardy ingot]

nah ID

[safe cradle]

R6C2 isn't really as hard as people take it if they understand how to move after mom

[wraith kindle]

A lot of our wipes go down to the hybrid cleaning person running out of ammo, we only have 2 W key warriors, the other 2 are very slow on clears

[uneven kiln]

yeah I presume the team has done Main first

[wraith kindle]

yeah we don't

[safe cradle]

1 or 2 guys stay behind 2 push room by room, scout is in? shoot room

[wraith kindle]

we almost got to the blood door once, but if we trigger 1 scout we are dead

[safe cradle]

Room is clear? Good, move on, Second room clear? Hybrid team goes to room 1

And so on until you get to the room that gets in fog

[wraith kindle]

I honestly don't think our mother kills are the problem, the scouts are way more annoying

[safe cradle]

then you pull the room with a mine unless scout is in it

[safe cradle]

Hybrid waves NEVER spawn ahead there

and there's little stuff aside from the scouts

so just dont go for melee and HEL Rifle your problems away

[uneven kiln]

I guess I'm interpreting it like, if it takes that long with the mom, even if it goes "clean", that's quite a lot of time and ammo not being spent on clearing rooms, and I know there isnt a ton of ammo left for the final stretch

and yeah sleepo has it right

[wraith kindle]

scout was indeed in it both of the times in both of the fog rooms (I presume the second one is the last room) on both of our sessions, it's nice to know that we can get lucky there

[safe cradle]

The final stretch doesn't really exist, the last scan is SUPER fast. For the record, after the last blood door, hold the left until the door, then hold the center until the staircase (it's somewhat confusing but a small area)

[wraith kindle]

this is pretty much what we have been doing, we just either trigger scouts, or are too slow

and we split 3-1

[safe cradle]

You really can just HEL Rifle and pull the room

[uneven kiln]

I interpret the final stretch as past the sec door in mom room btw

the last scan is basically instant yea

[safe cradle]

mh try to move "together" (keeping 1 room of distance)

[tardy ingot]

the big thing is that if the bio tracker is healthy they can just push into the fog without worry and go for killing rooms

infection matters less than the visibility issue

[safe cradle]

So if hybrid team does an oopsie you can recover better

[wraith kindle]

if we alert the scout we are dead, the others are not very good at shooting in fog

[safe cradle]

Yeah like I said before, room has scout you kill scout with hel rifle and pull the room

otherwise you pull the room anyway

[tardy ingot]

mine the doors

[uneven kiln]

OK alright, I think I see the big picture of what's been happening now

[tardy ingot]

(usually for where the scout wave spawns)

[wraith kindle]

yeah but if we take our time to get to the scouts, the hybrid guy runs out of ammo
if we get a lucky spawn with the scout, I high cal him in the head, but If I try to push to the scout to HS him in the fog (there are walls in those rooms), we either alert the room and thus the scout, or we are too slow

as I said, not having enough W key pressers is a problem

[uneven kiln]

yep makes sense

[wraith kindle]

Bio Tracker person does not press W

[wraith kindle]

Yeah we leave the turbine behind, and go with 0 repellers

[tardy ingot]

have them start the section at 100% special ammo and carry a 5 (or at least 4 use) ammo pack

mom zone gives you another ammo you can use

[tardy ingot]

with 0 repellers?

wha

[wraith kindle]

yeah that is what we did, 100% sniper + 4 use ammo

[tardy ingot]

I get leaving turbine behind (I do that in all my runs anyhow) but take repellers

[wraith kindle]

because we have 4 granades for mom + doors behind us

[tardy ingot]

fog repellers >>>

[safe cradle]

Tell people that go in bulkhead key zone to grab 1 stack of foggies

[tardy ingot]

^

[safe cradle]

There's a lot of foggies in bulk key zone

like, a fuckton

[wraith kindle]

I'm mining all the doors, but it's not enough, because they break down from the hybrids super fast, so it's not consistent to catch a scout wave

[wraith kindle]

you can't always have a sightline on the scout, in fact in the last (?) 2 rooms, you have a staircase at the start, and the other one is very long with mid-section walls

[safe cradle]

If the scout is in the last room you can even pull the scout (wave can only spawn behind because the blood door is closed)

[wraith kindle]

We'll try that for sure, but again, the others get overwhelmed and can't think to throw repellers anyway

[minor fractal]

Sniper should not play w/ the team, pushers are still semi-stealthing to make sure scouts die.

[safe cradle]

After you get through the blood door the map is done

[wraith kindle]

and we need me to have the first foam on mom because I press W

[wraith kindle]

We try to have granades for mom and doors, but we can go 3-1 probably
We could even go for 2-2, I just value the foam a lot

[upper ginkgo]

you got the whole gtfo-chat theory crafting the level clear for you LOL

[wraith kindle]

yeah it's not an availability issue for sure

[safe cradle]

I think given your struggles 2-2 is perhaps safer

[wraith kindle]

indeed, that is our main strat

[minor fractal]

Foam is not gonna do much because keeping hybrids alive just stacks waves

[safe cradle]

just dont stay TOO far behind, you want to be able to help hybrid team if one of them goes down

Also the rooms inside are perhaps better to scattergun the hybrids because of the sharp corridors

[wraith kindle]

I just wanted to ask for the tank mine setup and a few thoughts on Sawed off + Sniper as a weapon combo for the back person ;_;
But I appreciate all the answers, some of them I wrote down and will try next

[safe cradle]

Clear team should get in, kill scout, clean room, bring cargo in, rinse and repeat

[wraith kindle]

Foam + Mine

[safe cradle]

and hybrid team gets 1 room closer so you're never too far from each other

[minor fractal]

You can triple mine w/out foam

[wraith kindle]

Next time I'll be on hybrid duty, I think I'll be fine, but then I'm worried about the W key pressing

[minor fractal]

Can also have launcher partial foam

[wraith kindle]

We don't have launcher, and doors break faster than we can place 3 mines on them

[minor fractal]

You pre-place

[wraith kindle]

then 1 goes through and the mine person dies

[minor fractal]

Kill wave, close door and place 3 mines immediately.

[wraith kindle]

it happened once

[minor fractal]

No, I mean in dead time after killing 3 hybrids

before next wave spawns, you close door and triple mine

[wraith kindle]

That's a very valid point

[wraith kindle]

I think if you saw how hectic that section is for us, you'd understand that we have absolutely 0 chance to triple mine any door

even with foam would be funny

without foam it's impossible

[minor fractal]

What is destabilizing?

[wraith kindle]

Scouts mostly I think

clearing the full fog rooms without aggroing the scout

[prime musk]

you can prefoam the doors so that you don't need both mines and foam to stay there for the closing

ie when a door is opening you can put foam on it and itll be applied when the door is closed again

[wraith kindle]

yeah we were theorycrafting going -1 sentry +1 foam, the main problem is that then somebody would have +1 duty to do, and they are already overwhelmed

We usually go mine/foam(me) + tracker + 2x sentry

[minor fractal]

This might just be a tile knoweldge diff, but also if you had fog reps instead of foam nades this would be much less of a problem

I don't think triple mines are saving you enough ammo where fog reps wouldn't just carry

[wraith kindle]

Yeah, that is what we have been trying, but it's reassuring that we got that part, we'll just keep trying then

[wraith kindle]

Yeah, that is another good point

[safe cradle]

You could do the map in Main to see what it's like without the hybrid error pressure

[wraith kindle]

We'll try me sniping hybrids + fog repellers next time

[wraith kindle]

That's gigabrain, we could even just commit sodoku to try the overload after without wasting the first half

why the fuck have I not thought of that

[uneven kiln]

do you know how the error works out of curiosity

[safe cradle]

Not to offend you, I'm not a sharpshooter myself, but I'd rather get scattergun for it

[wraith kindle]

3 hybrids every 90 seconds

[prime musk]

it's every 45ish

[uneven kiln]

that is incorrect, and I am glad I asked

[prime musk]

90s is just wrong

[uneven kiln]

zed is correct

[safe cradle]

Easier to aim, worse case scenario you still deal damage, and the inner part is bad for sniping

[uneven kiln]

did you get that info off of the fandom wiki

[wraith kindle]

I honestly feel comfortable clicking heads, I guess I'll see if I eat my words

[wraith kindle]

yes

[uneven kiln]

yeah that wiki is derelict

we are on wiki.gg now

dont use fandom

[prime musk]

[[r6c2]]

[wraith kindle]

that's pretty much the only written source I found for GTFO

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R6c2?action=edit&redlink=1

[wraith kindle]

Yeah that's not going to be as helpful I think

[uneven kiln]

[[R6C2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R6C2

[prime musk]

my bad this specific page doesn't redirect

[wraith kindle]

AAH

My bad

Awesome

great

I'll update all of our links for the remaining levels with these

there is even a map

holy shit

[uneven kiln]

I am also the one who overhauled the page since the migration from fandom

[wraith kindle]

I am also glad you asked, thanks

[uneven kiln]

Picking up the HISEC Cargo will immediately unlock the door to Zone 247. It will also automatically initiate an Error Alarm of 3 Hybrids every ~45 seconds after a hidden ~20 second delay.

[wraith kindle]

Well, thanks for all the knowledge, we'll try again next Tuesday, I honestly already can't wait

can't believe this wiki has maps

I always did a pre-scouting of levels with bots, got as far as I could, and screenshotted my map before we died, that's how we got maps xD

and then we drew on them

[uneven kiln]

yep just give me a shout if there's anything missing/incorrect, a lot of cleanup/misinfo has been corrected but I don't doubt there's some remainders yet still

[wraith kindle]

Considering I could not tell the difference between 90s and 45s, I don't think that's a real possibility, but thanks anyway :D

I'll definitely be on the lookout, we did spot a few incorrect/missing things on the other wiki

[uneven kiln]

yeah fandom should not be considered a credible source nowadays, it's not being maintained

that reminds me, I need to go check on the level after R6C2, R6C3

yep I need to fix that page a bit, no misinfo just formatting and clearer verbiage

[undone raven]

R6C3 gets cooked by r7d2 😔

[uneven kiln]

It's still an interesting level

[undone raven]

Not interesting to play imo

[uneven kiln]

PE is in the "uh yeah you need to know exactly how PE works if you're gonna do it at all otherwise it's awful" category

definitely a "do a Main Only clear first, for your sanity" level

[undone raven]

Nah it's just running around

Boring

[uneven kiln]

well not only that but if you're dawdling Overload just sets you up for failure

and you won't know it yet until you reach around the Sec bulkhead zone where it becomes very apparent you have to know what to do in advance and do it fast

Overload is also kind of tucked away, too

[crystal blaze]

Me when I do R4D2’s secondary before overload

[topaz anvil]

Do you also pick up the cargo early

[uneven kiln]

honestly, that's another great example-- how are you supposed to know without prior knowledge that sec causes fog to rise continuously for the rest of the expedition, when every other distribute power cells objective and generator cluster lowers fog, with the "exception" of R4B2. You could reasonably guess that you shouldn't pick up the HISEC cargo early, but there's a bulkhead key in both Sec and Overload, so there's no definitive indication on which you should do first

the rundown menu intercepted comms also don't hint at this, and once you open Secondary you're locked in and have to complete it to get the bulkhead key

[topaz anvil]

Tbf in a fair majority of levels, you typically do overload first anyway

[uneven kiln]

Which is really funny because R4A2 suggests to do it last even though that’s not possible

[ornate arch]

The devs still against modding?

[frail heart]

No

Just don’t use gameplay altering mods in lfg

[ornate arch]

Oh, it wasn't modding that they disliked, it was accessing old rundowns, but now we have them all.

[digital mural]

Uuuuuh

Yesnt

The ALT rundowns are different from the OG

[ornate arch]

Is there a good place to discuss mods anywhere?

[digital mural]

#hc-modded exists

[ornate arch]

I don't understand discord, that whole category doesn't show up on my channel list

[digital mural]

That's because it's hidden

Go to the top of the channel list

Click roles and channels

And select the channels you want to see

[crystal blaze]

Of course

[grizzled patrol]

Devs dont Care about the entire Game as a whole anymore. We are abandoned

Maybe after DoW comes Out we might get some attention

But untill then its Radio silence

[digital mural]

Luckily some of the devs in the DoW server have said they aren't against modding

So I hope we don't have another GTFO modding situation

[frail heart]

Some of the level designers also said they arent against it in the interview we did with them

[digital mural]

Nice

[prime musk]

i mean
the surge alarm to overload is way easier if you do it before sec
so a team that scouts both the optionals before going for a pe would recognise that they want overload -> sec -> main

[grave obsidian]

Can you obtain some of the exclusive Apparel by changing the date of your PC?

[abstract junco]

Hey I got a question about the blood doors

so those guys behind the door they are already alerted, but there is also a scout behind them would the scout be also alerted?

[tardy ingot]

the blood door spawns in enemies

[grave obsidian]

Depends if the spawned enemies alert him

[tardy ingot]

the enemies that were in the room ahead of that time dont get alerted by the blood door (there is scream doors who do that tho)

if the enemies inside scream the scout will alert tho ye

[abstract junco]

so

when they spawn in there is a chance the scout could get alerted and scream its face off?

[topaz anvil]

There is tech you can do

If you happen to have an enemy still asleep nearby

[abstract junco]

wdym?

[topaz anvil]

The scout will alert if one of those enemies in the blood door scream

So either you all need to get 1 room away from the blood door before it opens, or make another enemy scream

[abstract junco]

okay cheers

[burnt inlet]

also shooting/mines will probably allert the scout if you arent decently far away from it

[ripe hamlet]

basically yes the blood door enemies will scream and wake the room up

[abstract junco]

yeah me and my mate figured, literally woked up that whole zone

[ripe hamlet]

doing true duo or with bots?

[hardy grotto]

I would assume no

[safe cradle]

To my knowledge, if the scenario is a scout right behind a blood door, you can do the tech where you place one mine, a guy opens the blood door then shoots the mine (killing himself) ASAP. Enemies only scream if they enter a room that's adjacent to a room a non-downed player is in.

[sturdy glen]

what the fuck beth is orange

I feel like i havent seen that in years

[safe cradle]

The bad about that is that said player is downed, the good is that supposedly the scout doesn't wake up

I've never tested this tactic myself but I've heard it somewhere and it makes sense

Moreover I cant think of one istance where this is needed, really, R2C1's the first example that comes into my mind regarding Scouts being right behind a blood door, and it doesn't do much difference if you're able or not to kill the scout before it screams there.

Another istance is R5B2 I think

R6D2 can also have that, right? BBC room

[frail heart]

the enemies can still scream tho

from the blood door

nvm

[hardy grotto]

yeah I was surprised I had it for so long

I feel like I didn’t do that many cell skip runs

[sturdy glen]

I shouldve cut a deal too

fuck

[topaz anvil]

Real

[ocean lance]

wait you guys are not banned?!

mods!!!

[abstract junco]

me and my mate and the two bots at the moment

[ripe hamlet]

you should try true duo out

join the club

[abstract junco]

haha we did! we gave it a shot with just the two of us with no bots and hell it was a horrible experience

I would love a trio 4 players XD

but its near right impossible to find players who are in the same country

[ripe hamlet]

you only need 2 players to beat the entire game

i play exclusively true duo and ive been managing it so its not that hard

[abstract junco]

fair enough

[grizzled patrol]

Down yourself to the Tripmine while trying to Snipe the Scout

[ripe hamlet]

just snipe the scout before the blood door fully open to take advantage of teh silent shot bug

ezclap

[frail heart]

the sound definitely doesnt linger

[worn crow]

It’s pretty common to have a scout in zone 349 of R4D2 secondary if the cell spawns there

[prime musk]

iirc you have time to always get far enough away for every blood door in 4d2 sec

[fresh token]

Does anyone have tips for using the terminals with a steam deck?

[ocean spindle]

usually the advice is have a keyboard near u qwq

idk if the deckk has some setting for a virtualkeyboard

[fresh token]

It does. However i was having issues finding special characters like the "_" button

@ocean spindle

Thank you fir the response though. I appreciate the help

[ocean spindle]

oh a tip can be if u press tab u autocomplete commands!

so sometimes u dont have to write it

[fresh token]

I might try that. I usually leave terminals to my pc buddies

[frail heart]

gtfo on a steam deck is rough

[ocean spindle]

somee later levels might b a lil hectic to choose who does terminals, so make sure u at least know the basics

:3

[fresh token]

It is but I want to make it work so I have it post surgery to play

[frail heart]

ah

[ocean spindle]

D:

[fresh token]

I'll def have to practice. Thank you.

[ocean spindle]

its nothin, hope u can recover fast from the surgery !

[fresh token]

Thank you thank you! Me too

[burnt inlet]

Maybe if you rebound a button on the steam deck to that and in game bound the action to the button it’d be easier

[wheat gate]

numlock key is so useless i rebind that to underscore

and its been quite useful in gtfo lol

[topaz anvil]

Can't wait for GTMH with TC7

[ocean spindle]

woould r7 buff pdw be gooood by today standarts?

[topaz anvil]

Dunno barely used it

[digital mural]

If PDW isn't scatter it's trash

[topaz anvil]

Can't believe you changed your pfp again

[digital mural]

Bro

It has been like this for 3 days

No way you just noticed

[ocean spindle]

bro but like against dmr or dtr

[topaz anvil]

I'm just still in disbelief

[sudden nexus]

huge

[tardy ingot]

r7 buff pdw?

what

do you mean*

[ocean spindle]

i mean-- just like r7 pdw when it was at its peakk

[tardy ingot]

It lost: slightly faster reload cancel
Thermal utility in fog
Minimal dmg (so it lost body shot dmg in exchange for potentially better breakpoint)

[ocean spindle]

damn i guess i remember it way better

[uneven kiln]

I think the PDW is fine ish nowadays

[wheat gate]

its still ok but like
u need to keep hitting heads while spraying for it to be ok
which means its only ok on paper, like the machine pistol

[uneven kiln]

it's good on R8C1 PE

[ocean spindle]

yeah but mostly out of thermal

[ocean spindle]

buy me geforce

[fathom ice]

pdw is fine

[ocean spindle]

hsmg clears B]

[fathom ice]

it just gets to the point

where you either have bio or you don't need it

[lucid geyser]

Is it possible to duo every rundown with bots, or are there any levels where duoing specifically might be really hard?

[upper ginkgo]

game has been duo'd without bots

[lucid geyser]

Oh cool

[upper ginkgo]

it's a pretty tough feat and generally considered a "challenge" run

there are some levels where the bots might be a detriment like uhhh r2e1

[lucid geyser]

Damn okay

[upper ginkgo]

but yeah game out

[steady maple]

Entire game solo would be hard

I did the entire game duo

much more manageable

some levels are objectively harder minus teammates

2 is the minimum you need to guarantee stealth kill giants

The bots are more unhelpful than helpful unless it is an infection level or a flyer level

you have to manage which resources they pick up and they WILL shoot you

I ran true duo for that reason

also E tier missions WILL be sketch with 2 players and you should just suck it up and grab 2 more friends for those levels

R2E1 solo is one of the most difficult missions in the game where its considered impossible for most people

R2E1 duo is probably possible, but just don't

[fathom ice]

it's free wdym

[steady maple]

True its pretty easy actually basically free for most players

[digital mural]

This game is very easy

If you can't solo it you suck

[steady maple]

True I just can't think of any reasons why R2E1 would be difficult to do alone

[fading wave]

oh dang i thought bots couldnt friendly fire

[fading wave]

like a chad
that's how it's meant to be played baby

[tawny girder]

i've been playing solo with bots for 130 hours, never been friendly fired by bots, if you position good you should be fine

but duo might be worse 'cause all the bots aren't likely to be on you idk

[uneven kiln]

good positioning (for dodging bots) just isn't possible in some levels, should be noted

in which you are often forced to stay in 1 general proximity for an extended period

[steady maple]

I wonder if there are any mechanics that force you to do that... like... scans...

stand in the back and shoot the bots or stand in the front and get shot

[upper ginkgo]

you're like my third favorite gtfo schizo :D

[steady maple]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[tawny girder]

skill issue ngl 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓

[past mesa]

I feel like I could guess number one and two

[ripe hamlet]

lvls that are specifically terrifying for true duo are the ones where you have to carry stuff and deal with error alarms

aka the entire r4

[undone raven]

r4e1 duo is peak gtfo

[ripe hamlet]

not e2?

shame

[undone raven]

havent tried it, but i doubt duo e2 is more fun than duo r4e1

[ripe hamlet]

r4e1 duo is cool and all but it already got eclipsed by hanimoon gaming it out solo

but yeah error alarms are super fun for duo, as long as i dont need to carry stuff

[undone raven]

i dont really care what it got eclipsed by, its fun,

[ripe hamlet]

fair

[undone raven]

eventually someone will do e2 solo

[ripe hamlet]

e2 solo boosterless TAS when

[undone raven]

seeded, now

[livid prairie]

How long would you say it'd take to go through R7B2 (first time through, getting logs, not speedrunning)?

[livid prairie]

Our playergroup is at a skill level where we just now beat R5E1

[ripe hamlet]

no more than an hour

my first time was with true duo and i do 90 mins and that was crawling because i didnt know the map

if you can beat r5e1 and are 4 man it should be way quicker

[north stirrup]

how tf are you supposed to beat r2D1

[onyx ermine]

not suck

[north stirrup]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[ripe hamlet]

where and why are you losing

[livid prairie]

Win

[ripe hamlet]

real

just game it out

[onyx ermine]

we keep gettong stuck past 606

:(

i mean we usally get 2 or 3

[ripe hamlet]

where did you die

the alarms or the blood doors

[onyx ermine]

but then we just start to run low on supplies

alarms usally

[ripe hamlet]

you can put the cell into the res zone to get more res

[onyx ermine]

btw we are a dou with bots

[ripe hamlet]

that zone has a cell in it so its free resource

[onyx ermine]

614 the one you have to use a cell in order to open the door?

[ripe hamlet]

yes

[onyx ermine]

i seeeeeeeeeee

i mean i don't cause im a sleeper and i dont have eyes

[timber shoal]

are y'all running mines

[onyx ermine]

one with mines

[ripe hamlet]

if youve been doing lvl in order then have fun

the lvl will feature the hardest alarm yet

[onyx ermine]

the bots have sentury

[ripe hamlet]

give bio to bot

bot is very overpowered with them

[onyx ermine]

okay i shall

[timber shoal]

have you been mining the door that separates the two zones with the blood doors + alarms

[onyx ermine]

yes

[timber shoal]

hmm

[ripe hamlet]

the rest if gaming it out i guess

[onyx ermine]

should we use foam ?

[ripe hamlet]

foam kinda useless

[timber shoal]

eh

[onyx ermine]

like on the gound

[timber shoal]

i dont think foam is gonna help

[ripe hamlet]

id rather have 2 sentries one mine and one bio

[timber shoal]

definitely not

[ripe hamlet]

no need to refill mine either

[onyx ermine]

aye aye captian

[ripe hamlet]

you just need mine for blood door

what guns are you taking then

[onyx ermine]

should one of us should tank infectios fog

[ripe hamlet]

yes

have one diver

[timber shoal]

the level gives a fuck load of foggies though too

like an actual absurd amount

[onyx ermine]

it indeed does but the bots high key suck

[ripe hamlet]

only for that one blood door thats basically deep in the infect

otherwise you have enough fog repellers

[timber shoal]

yeah there's one zone where you might run out, i think i did on my clear

[onyx ermine]

ia there an order we should tackle the rooms

[ripe hamlet]

and since you play duo theres no need to go for key to disinfect station zone

so you can do 2 blood doors to get 2 cells instead of one more alarm

[ripe hamlet]

do the alarm before opening any blood door

easy funnel

[timber shoal]

make sure you do alarms in the order where you wont get sandwiched by spawns

[onyx ermine]

which alram door should we do

[timber shoal]

ie dont open rooms behind you

[ripe hamlet]

one that has cell lmao

dont tell me you never try to query cell

[onyx ermine]

no we do 😭

[north stirrup]

is there a more optimal alarm door to do

[ripe hamlet]

there is one behind the northern door

you dont need to do that one if you dont have to go for disinfect

you play duo so realistically you have enough already

[ripe hamlet]

no

[burnt inlet]

this is the route i took

[ripe hamlet]

i like doing 2 blood doors and not having to do an extra alarm

[onyx ermine]

thank you fish my goat blushes

[burnt inlet]

yummers

[onyx ermine]

that's makes since

[onyx ermine]

this guy and yummers

[ripe hamlet]

so id open both 611 and 613 and dont have to do 608

[burnt inlet]

:3

[ripe hamlet]

but yeah

[onyx ermine]

okay we shall run it back and win for sure now

[ripe hamlet]

just do the alarm before opening blood doors

[burnt inlet]

i thought cell was only in one? or am i missremembering?

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-yummers-the-boys-yummers-meme-yummers-meme-gif-10229506808836437820

[ripe hamlet]

cell is only in one of the alarm door

blood doors have both, just one will have the key

[ripe hamlet]

good luck on the ending

[timber shoal]

ughhhhh

[ripe hamlet]

would be a shame if its the hardest part of the lvl

[timber shoal]

r2d1 ending is aids

[onyx ermine]

it sucks

we died there once

[timber shoal]

r1b2 type shit

[onyx ermine]

for real

yo, you should totally hop on gtfo

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gtfo-meme-gtfo-the-game-hop-on-hop-on-gtfo-gif-24474176

[onyx ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-game-gif-25676557

[ripe hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gtfo-game-gif-27126664

[burnt inlet]

YESYESYESYES AFFIRM AFFIRM AFFIRM

[timber shoal]

hmmm

freak ass

[onyx ermine]

freaky ah

[burnt inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585063132553281556/798962215276380240/walkingbigguy.gif

[onyx ermine]

yo what frank doing

[north stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gtfo-game-travis-no-one-wants-to-play-gif-26988513

[onyx ermine]

i know ya'll REALLY want to

[timber shoal]

i'm lwk a pub in terms of skill level

not sure you'd want me on your team

[onyx ermine]

any help would be useful

we just need another human

@burnt inlet please

[timber shoal]

guhh

i'll get on

[onyx ermine]

YAAYYYYYY

[timber shoal]

i'm not gonna be warmed up though

[onyx ermine]

thank you

[burnt inlet]

i could also get on

[onyx ermine]

PLEASE

@timber shoal someone else beat you :(

[timber shoal]

yeah i see that

it's ok 💔

[onyx ermine]

im sorry :(

[timber shoal]

guess i'll just cry alone

all by myself

[onyx ermine]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

we can still play later

i promise

[timber shoal]

mmmm

okie

[onyx ermine]

YAYAYAYYAYA

[ripe hamlet]

why are you back already

did you get carried that hard or did you already lose

[onyx ermine]

still getting carried rn

[burnt inlet]

the carry in question (1 billion infection please)

[ripe hamlet]

nice

[grizzled patrol]

Dusty spotted inside of the complex

Truly a rare sight to behold

[timber shoal]

what the fuck

[grizzled patrol]

Nvm its His copycat

[timber shoal]

they give you so many foggies

are y'all huffing that shit

[burnt inlet]

we havent used a single disinfect

like its so fine team

[timber shoal]

wwhy do you have so much infection in the first place?????

[burnt inlet]

cant be bothered

[restive kraken]

dustydog/Dusty 2025.All the same i think

[burnt inlet]

i waas also fog diver

[onyx ermine]

we died in fog

[ripe hamlet]

seems like everyone decides to go into the blood door room

[burnt inlet]

oxy also wanted to fog dive

and oreo wanted to fog dive

[ripe hamlet]

nice

[onyx ermine]

i wanted to be just like you

[burnt inlet]

:3

[timber shoal]

i have a theory of why this level is difficult

[ripe hamlet]

ppl hoard fog repeller

[grizzled patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[ripe hamlet]

and also newbie not knowing the room and getting lost

[burnt inlet]

the carry in question:

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[onyx ermine]

he gave us backshoots

[burnt inlet]

yuumers

[timber shoal]

damn i gotta get in on that next time

[onyx ermine]

you definitely should

[burnt inlet]

we are gonna do cell skip

then brazil skip

[undone raven]

w/ me? 🥺

[burnt inlet]

yummers

[sudden nexus]

who up skipping

[burnt inlet]

@onyx ermine

[timber shoal]

skipping on it

[burnt inlet]

they lick on my sleeper till i scream

[undone raven]

she damage split on my surge alarm until i clear the wave

[onyx ermine]

yes sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burnt inlet]

yummers

[onyx ermine]

yummersssssss

[ripe hamlet]

dont install accuracy tracker mod

worst mistake of my life

[undone raven]

Will do

[ripe hamlet]

im literally trash (40% accuracy)

shooters have passive buff that make me miss my hel rifle shoots

[onyx ermine]

exactly

[ripe hamlet]

not you strikers

youre ezclap target

[onyx ermine]

booooooooooooo

miss!!!

[undone raven]

keep it down bud loads sawed off

[onyx ermine]

:(

[timber shoal]

wyd if i walk diagonally away from you

[ripe hamlet]

also who spreads the misinfo that first shot after ads is accurate

smh its not

[onyx ermine]

FUCK NO

MY GREATEST WEAKNESS

[undone raven]

Sleepers vs scattergun

[onyx ermine]

OHHH NOOO EVEN WORSE

[timber shoal]

sleepers x scattergun fanfic

[undone raven]

Someone write

[timber shoal]

i'll get on this

prommy

[topaz anvil]

Fuck yes

[timber shoal]

oh boy

i'm gonna have to dial in

[grizzled patrol]

"Lord amabatublow"

Orange Hit Marker

[white idol]

i know it doesnt matter which mellee a bot uses but does it also not really matter the gun it uses? i believe fire rate and spread matter but say if i give them HEL weapons will they also stagger heavily

[ocean spindle]

guns do matter in the sense they dont change any stats, but use them the same way (like line-of-sight shooting and balancing ammo as they can)
HEL weapons just naturally stagger very good if ur wondering cuz of the dmg and stagger dmg on their stats (not purely out of being hel)

some standouts for bots are burst rifle, hel revoo, hel autopistol if u need staggeer, machinegun (veruta) for big ammo, burst cannon for big dmg (careful with the friendly fire)

and then it becomes a lot more dependant and in some mission u could use a shotgun or etc

[white idol]

On R4 B2 if i put all the cells into the gen will the overload room clear of fog?

[topaz anvil]

The opposite

[civic wave]

on r4b2, putting a cell in moves the fog down a layer
overload is on base elevation, so to have it free from fog you must avoid putting in any cells until you're done

[minor fractal]

It matters quite a lot for how long bots can shoot and how much they actually do.

BC is by far the strongest special you can give them, while Veruta MG is a weak pick that forces them to conserve ammo.

Bots struggle to use lots of guns, also. Revo, choke, and sniper are all extremely bad on bots.

It's very far from not mattering, is all I mean.

[fading wave]

ik its not really related to gtfo specifically

but whats the most reliable gaming laptop

[frail heart]

a laptop

[fading wave]

i just want something super strong and super durable for my friend who doesnt have a computer

so he can play steam games with me

[digital mural]

What's the budget

[fading wave]

lets just say 1,000 or less to make it simple

[digital mural]

Yikes

A used 4060 laptop is the best you'll find

Or a really cheap one

[fading wave]

well what kind of laptop would you recommend then

and how close can i get to that budget despite going over it a little

[steady maple]

Its the opposite, bots have the same melee damage and range no matter what you give them and their firearm is very important
Bots will switch to their melee weapon when enemies enter a certain range which limits their ability to use close range weapons, but they are somehow good enough to use single-fire burst cannon with perfect accuracy

[digital mural]

A 4060 laptop....

[fading wave]

so 4060 unused would cost...

[digital mural]

Anything else is way more expensive

[fading wave]

and it would run games like gtfo, valheim, lethal company, etc?

[digital mural]

A new 4060 laptop with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is around the 700-800$

[ocean spindle]

pablo the gamer

[fading wave]

oh well thats within the budget aint it

[digital mural]

Yeah but 512GB SSD is dogshit

[topaz anvil]

4

[fading wave]

oh

then whyd you mention it 💔

[ocean spindle]

pablo the hater :3

[digital mural]

Because it's the most common ones in your budget

32GB of RAM and 1TB+ SSDs are 1100-1200+

[topaz anvil]

cant not be a hater

[digital mural]

Slendo

[fading wave]

so could i get a good prebuilt gaming laptop that runs the things i need it to run with like 1200-1300?

[digital mural]

800$ for a device with 512GB is criminal

[ocean spindle]

u tell me as if i knew

nuhuh

[digital mural]

Easily yeah

[fading wave]

ok so ill let my friend know that the target is 1200

and any brand works?

[digital mural]

MSI, Asus and maybe Lenovo

[fading wave]

MSI mentioned

instantly picked

[digital mural]

Lenovo has some good quality laptops but there's also some really.... questionable

[fading wave]

anywho thx

[topaz anvil]

team whats the vibe rn

[upper ginkgo]

gotta read the logs to find out

[topaz anvil]

waiting for my glass to craft rn

@digital mural imagine watching yourself get sliced in half 🔥

[digital mural]

HUH?

[topaz anvil]

you know how it is sometimes

[digital mural]

I hate when it happens

[topaz anvil]

just enjoying tea with your clone and then it falls apart 🔥

[safe cradle]

I wouldn't call their accuracy perfect

By any extent of the word, I keep seeing them hitting door frames with it

Unless you mean that they always manage to correctly burst cancel, then yeah

It's better than Veruta if you want them to actually shoot and deal damage, that's true

[burnt frigate]

Is the bat capable of 1 shotting a feeler?

[ripe hamlet]

full charge and back of the head

[worn crow]

They're called Scouts lol, the feelers are just the tendrils

[burnt inlet]

its same same really

[worn crow]

Considering the voice command it feels strange to call them anything else

[stoic hedge]

it's called a nickname

and "feeler" actually makes total sense considering you can easily misunderstand one of Dauda's voicelines that refers to scouts if you're not paying full attention
plus, "feeler" is just more catchy

[hard nexus]

but different

[uneven kiln]

I had to check Dauda’s voicelines to be sure on this one, these are the exact lines:

1. "Scout! Stay far away from the feelers. If you touch them, we will be outnumbered in seconds."

2. "Scout! Don't touch the feelers. One touch, and we will be overrun by monsters."

[grizzled patrol]

ngl would be funny if you could destroy feelers individually

[worn crow]

That was really the crux of my argument, it doesn’t matter what you prefer to call them but many new players think that’s the official name for it.

[worn crow]

“How you ‘gon feel the pain in your leg if your leg is gone!”

[thick stump]

the bots literally call them scouts

I started this game playing alone with bots and they always say something like 'scout up ahead'

[digital mural]

Actually

Scouts real name is gallus capreotalus

[ocean spindle]

it's such obscure knowledge i love it

callus horridus, reptus

[topaz anvil]

Cumulus Gallus!

[ocean spindle]

fuck i'm missing the shooter

JACULUS

gallus reculus

[topaz anvil]

@grave obsidian a real one

[grave obsidian]

🫡

[safe cradle]

Feeler makes me think of a Scout that really likes Noir movies and smokes weird cigarettes

[ocean spindle]

feels too hard

[burnt inlet]

hard too feel

[fading wave]

what audio settings would you recommend

like how loud should the music voicelines and gunfire be

additionally what opacity do you recommend for crosshairs

[frail heart]

whatever you are comfortable with

everyone is different

[fading wave]

ig yea

[burnt inlet]

audio isnt that deep in this game imo

[fading wave]

ik lol

im just bad at making my own decisions xd

maybe playing this game will help me with that lol

[safe cradle]

I play with music off

Only bad side is that it's harder to tell if an enemy is stuck somewhere or there's a struggler

[safe cradle]

Respectfully, I disagree somewhat

I think one thing that's given for granted is being able to guess where an enemy is based purely on the croaking noise

It's one of those things that you learn with time and do subconsciously, but it helps a lot especially with shadows.

[frail heart]

Soundless? 😱

WHAT IS MY NAMe

[upper ginkgo]

if enemy footsteps actually rendered from behind you, audio would be so important

[ripe hamlet]

audio is crucial for getting spooked by tongue sound from behind

[upper ginkgo]

i beat r8e2 soundless AND without boosters

where is my discord role

[frail heart]

i beat r6 and r7 without checkpoints

[safe cradle]

I never got the "without checkpoints" thing for rundowns that have an E tbh

If you can beat R7E1 (which doesn't have one) you can beat any R7 checkpointless, it's clearly in your reach

I know you're memeing (I guess, I'm not good at telling this stuff)

[ripe hamlet]

i beat r1-5 without checkpoint

[undone raven]

I beat r1a1 WITH a checkpoint

[fathom ice]

congrats !

[grave obsidian]

GG

[frail heart]

funny how the hardest point of the level is before the checkpoint lmao

[undone raven]

Yeah I died to the end solo

But that's not what I was referring to

[frail heart]

Pub

[upper ginkgo]

i miss when solos ran double revo

[undone raven]

lmao i was

[upper ginkgo]

yeah but you're like a

[undone raven]

dont say it

[upper ginkgo]

bad player

[undone raven]

oh

yeah true

one day ill skill prog (its impossible)

[ripe hamlet]

not running double revo is skill issue

just game better

[past mesa]

Skill prog in the lobby

[undone raven]

ok i will afk in lobby for 3000 hours

[past mesa]

Skill stagnation in lobby

[undone raven]

ok i will pub r4e1 for 1000 more hours

[topaz anvil]

How about pub r5b1

[undone raven]

try pub r5b2

[grizzled patrol]

try pub

[ocean lance]

try

[burnt inlet]

pub

[craggy pier]

I’ve been learning a few new strategies for R2E1, but I still feel a bit uncomfortable with the surge alarms, what should I do to get better at them?

I’m pretty terrible with kiting and knowing when/how to do that, especially when a teammate goes down. Should I practice that, or is there a more important aspect to surviving the surges?

[worn crow]

Typically if the holopath is pushing into a dense wave it's best to run around the room to better funnel enemies (particularly if you get a spawn in front of C during the first surge). If you're finding that to be difficult you could also slowly push your way to the scan and only enter when it's relatively safe, it's a matter of knowing when to rush the scan and when not to.

Weapons with heavy stagger are also quite helpful on this level to mitigate damage.

[burnt inlet]

Surely you ladderfoam

[tardy ingot]

🚪 👈

[safe cradle]

BlueAura said everything tbh

But I'll be sincere and say that I personally find 3 sentries better than 1-1-1-1 or bringing a mine deployer

[keen seal]

shut it

[safe cradle]

For weapons with heavy stagger mainly take HEL Autopistol

[keen seal]

hel shotgun rahhhh

hel autopp is way easier to use tho

[safe cradle]

hel pp is WAY more forgiving

[keen seal]

in terms of managing the reload

[burnt inlet]

Surely I wasn’t sarcastic

[safe cradle]

I knew you were

But for the record there's A LOT of pubs that ladderfoam that map

Way too many

[worn crow]

C-Foam can still be great on this level but it requires a lot more effort to get value out of and it's very likely to have enemies spawn in front of you and break vital doors. 3 sentries is always reliable

[burnt inlet]

When we played we ladderfoamed it :3 /j

[safe cradle]

What doors are there to foam?

[craggy pier]

Good to know, I guess I’ll take a more passive approach to the scans. I’ve been loving hel autopistol for this recently. Staggering 15 enemies at once feels…good?

[safe cradle]

I just funnel every alarm there

[worn crow]

The first two surges and last two surges

[craggy pier]

Used to, but was told that sentries are more reliable for the ending, since I’m 100% not going to remember which doors to foam

[worn crow]

Last one is particularly strong since you can permafoam

[safe cradle]

isn't last surge just WAY better to funnel since door is far from entry point?

[burnt inlet]

Sleepo carried me so I don’t even know half the level lmao

[safe cradle]

You carried yourself

[worn crow]

They take the small door down the stairs regardless unless the large door is open

[safe cradle]

yeah so... leave large door open?

[uneven kiln]

The humble ladderfoamfix

[burnt inlet]

Syntav carried surely

[safe cradle]

I'll be sincere even when I saw the horrors of ladderfoaming there we funneled last alarm

[craggy pier]

I still gotta get carried on that level, but I have a group in another server that wants to do things mostly without help, so I want to be able to beat the brunt of the difficulty on R2E1

[uneven kiln]

The brunt of the difficulty on R2E1 is the last part

[craggy pier]

Definitely improving though. 4th surge causes me to die every time because I’m either too slow to save doors or too slow to scatter and I get downed with the turbine

[uneven kiln]

It’s pretty much always the 4th surge people die on

There’s good reason I wrote that advisory warning for this mission on wiki

[craggy pier]

Yeah, it’s quite a struggle in the fog. Worth saving fog reps for that one or no?

[worn crow]

Absolutely

[uneven kiln]

Yes that’s also something highlighted on wiki

That’s how important saving them is

[[R2E1]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R2E1

[safe cradle]

1 more person shooting is 25% more firepower

[craggy pier]

Wiki bot :o

[uneven kiln]

I don’t use the turbine during 4th surge

[keen seal]

also more visibility with multiple foggies down

[uneven kiln]

Well to be more specific, I drop the turbine once the alarm is pulled and fog repellers are in position. It’s OK to take turbine with the guy taking cell to gen so they aren’t max infected

The people back in 602I can survive above the fog ceiling in 2 spots in the room but more realistically use 1-2 repellers to cleanly foam/mine/sentry and join back up

There’s multiple ways to tackle it really

[craggy pier]

I have a fair few fog rep boosters and I think that’s the level I want to use them on. Just recently figured out they also work on the turbine! XD

[tardy ingot]

dont worry/think too much about boosters ngl

[craggy pier]

Yeah, because one mistake on a surge and those boosters mean nothing, but I have a few to burn anyway and I’d reckon using them on an E level is worth it

[uneven kiln]

It’s mainly like

the less you personally rely on em the better a player you end up being

[frail heart]

BOOSTERLESS SOUNDLESS FEETLESS

[uneven kiln]

But generally speaking yeah I’d say E tiers are good place to burn em

[uneven kiln]

scattergunless

[craggy pier]

Definitely agree with this. I’ve been using my glow stick boosters recently, and I need to ween myself off of them. I’m getting a bit too reliant

[uneven kiln]

There’s also that achievement for beating an E tier with no boosters equipped

(Though that’s easier done on another level)

[craggy pier]

Ohhhh, I’m not sure I have that.

[burnt inlet]

R5E1 cell skip

[tardy ingot]

hardest achievement

Use a booster

(well its actually the full log achievement ngl)

[uneven kiln]

I’m going to take you on an R5E1 normal route one of these days

[craggy pier]

Damn, I should’ve done this on R4E1 when I got carried xD

[uneven kiln]

Sky carried me and moth through R4E1 Sec

Then I went back and did it again with 2 bots

[burnt inlet]

Nuh uh

[uneven kiln]

R5E1 normal route’s chokepoint honestly worse than R2E1 4th surge ngl

[frail heart]

whats the chokepoint

[craggy pier]

Is that the one where you spawn 100% infected?

[uneven kiln]

Z530 Class III Alarm

[craggy pier]

Sounds like fun ||(hell)||

[uneven kiln]

Yes

[frail heart]

idr

main route seemed easy but boring

nothing was really hard

[tardy ingot]

there… is no checkpoint in r5e1?

[frail heart]

choke

[tardy ingot]

Oh

[frail heart]

point

[tardy ingot]

CHOKE

[uneven kiln]

There are no checkpoints anymore after PointBlank

But yeah

[uneven kiln]

Most non-cs teams I can tell you now have BIG problems surviving to shut off the hybrid error and getting to disinf zone (530)

[tardy ingot]

Oh btw @frail heart im so sad

R7C2 extract is like 10 seconds too far away to be able to be finished before tping in glitchless .(

[uneven kiln]

that would be SO funny if you could ex before that

[tardy ingot]

glitched obviously makes it easy but

[frail heart]

awwww rip

@tardy ingot desync and someone doesnt tp lol

[tardy ingot]

Glitched run is so derpy

Its like 90% managing freeze bug to full sprint with cells

[tardy ingot]

[uneven kiln]

is desync like that valid for glitchless lol

[tardy ingot]

no

wouldnt be allowed

Its the same reason why say

Insta death kraken would be glitched

[uneven kiln]

yeah I guess it’s too similar to lag switching which is absolutely a glitched thing if it confers an advantage

[tardy ingot]

there are some funny things you can with it for glitched

but uuh

They just dont seem to be eas to force/do

aka instant death kraken

falling through the floor intentionally

[uneven kiln]

speaking of falling through floor for modded we got a really nice fix yesterday that adjusted a bunch of navmesh gen issues to prevent falling through the floor like that in some more places

[tardy ingot]

nono

You dont wanna avoid it

You gotta embrace

funny bug = good

If abuseable for quirky shit

[uneven kiln]

I did find a spot where you can fall through destination back to complex lol

and w/o jumping so you dont die

[frail heart]

in what level?

[uneven kiln]

R8B2 Sec~~, the survival arena shared with R8E2 Sec~~ just R8B2 Sec, not the same geomorph. was part of the navmesh gen issue that got a fix

R8B2’s dimensions are kinda wacky

[frail heart]

WHERE

like as in e2 the trap scan telepoort?

[tardy ingot]

Elaborate?

[uneven kiln]

will post in #gtfo-chat

[steep ivy]

how much will -6% melee damage mess with me if using hammer?

[fathom ice]

ur full charge doesn't kill smalls to body

[steep ivy]

so definitely going to want to supplement that

[prime musk]

or just take knife where the breakpoints do not change

[prime musk]

ok but here is a bonus trick: the booster effect applies when it starts spinning up
so as long as it doesn't fully spin down after the person with the boosters grabbed it (from being fully off), the effect carries over even to those without the boosters

[craggy pier]

Damnnnn, that's pretty useful

Makes it even better

[burnt inlet]

But also if another person grabs it (with no boost) you need to wait for it to spin down completely before grabbing it to get the effect

[ripe hamlet]

finally got back to duo r2d1 after putting it on hold for so long

[burnt inlet]

Fuck R2D1

[ripe hamlet]

lost to spitter bug at cluster gen scan

classics gtfo moment

[steep ivy]

spitter? more like waste of space on hard-drive /j

[safe cradle]

get gluefix

I never had spitterbug again

[ripe hamlet]

itll be the first mod fix i use

im not playing r2d1 again

boring ass lvl

[prime musk]

the duo speed is a banger trust (ive never run it and i struggle to imagine anything worse)

[steep ivy]

which one is r2d1?

[civic wave]

the one where the players split up

Statistics

Gen cluster with fog

[burnt inlet]

Gen cluster which lowers fog when you plug cells in

[steep ivy]

ohh yeah i remember now, spent an entire day grinding it

[burnt inlet]

such a bad level

[steep ivy]

i just didn't like it cos of the bots, and the spitter glitch

[hard nexus]

its just a boring level

[hollow surge]

heard that R2 could be skipped in favor of doing R3 to learn the game better. is it true?

[burnt inlet]

after R2D1 sure

[steep ivy]

R2E1 certainly is a level (beat it with the lads not bots)

[hollow surge]

context - am a new player completely and me and my friend are gonna be attempting R1D1 today

[steep ivy]

while at the time i didn't like it, looking back it's quite fun

[burnt inlet]

nah do R2

skip after R2D1

[hollow surge]

i see

well, we'll probably give levels after R2D1 a try and if they really suck we'll probably skip lol

[burnt inlet]

R2D2 and E1 are fun levels

[ripe hamlet]

funny thing is that r3 A lvls are basically tutorial for r2 D lvls

[steep ivy]

funny thing is r1-6 are tutorial for r7-8

[ripe hamlet]

putting r7 up there is wild

[steep ivy]

just included it as they aren't alt rundowns

[ripe hamlet]

e2 should have every enemy and PE smh my head

every lvl would then be its tutorial

[steep ivy]

invisible invincible charger tank when?

[ripe hamlet]

most normal modded enemy

[frail heart]

hmm

[tardy ingot]

uuuh no? not really?

[steep ivy]

it was just for the silly

[hollow harbor]

true, r2-8 lvls are basically tutorial for r1 levels

[burnt inlet]

surely R8A2 sec is a tutorial for the tutorial

[hollow surge]

R8A2 is a tutorial for R9 fr

[steep ivy]

you right, it's a tutorial for den of wolves

[crystal blaze]

What are you smoking?

D2 is not fun

D2 is immense pain and suffering

[prime musk]

D2 is pretty fun

[crystal blaze]

Nah bro, the game is a tutorial for R5

[prime musk]

it's like shoot shit and then shoot more shit and then shoot even more shit

for like 55 min

it's brain fodder

[crystal blaze]

Bro, you’re like 18392829282928x more skilled than me and thus your opinion is invalid

Go back to soloing E2

[prime musk]

MY bad

i was looking at seeds parallell to practicing shooting nm6 but it's just so inconsistent i got demotivated

maybe ill degen it for a few days sometime and see where it leads

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[sudden nexus]

alarm is inconsistent?

[fathom ice]

solo yes

[keen seal]

yeees this guy gets it

boom boom fun

[prime musk]

it's consistent with foam

but i do not want to run foam strats, id rather do alarm cancel stuff and get a sentry/mines for reactor (sentry is best, but mines are still infinitely better than foam)

[lyric thistle]

remember this, flying normal feelers exists

[undone raven]

Maybe hel revo bc hel auto sentry

For nm6

[fathom ice]

no

[undone raven]

Maybe sawed off hel gun hel auto

[frail heart]

ur dead once hel auto runs out

[undone raven]

Maybe burst??

[frail heart]

burst is second worst sentry on that level

[sudden nexus]

burst pistol...

[frail heart]

hel auto and sniper do way more

foam is just better

im not sure how you play mines ngl

[undone raven]

He's tryna do it foamless

[fathom ice]

u roll 3 trips

ezpz

[frail heart]

i feel like it doesnt do anything

TRUE

[fathom ice]

low-key u can carry one and roll another one and gamble E

but again

high rolling

smh