gtfo-related-questions

[digital mural]

Good reload

Good fire rate

Good damage

[sudden nexus]

its like a more spamable hel gun

[digital mural]

Good ammo economy

[soft crater]

Sawed

[soft crater]

Off

[soft crater]

Shotgun

[digital mural]

Omg Solace

[coral dune]

why is hel gun better at smalls than hel rifle?

[ripe hamlet]

headshot is oneshot

therefore insane efficiency if you game out

[grizzled patrol]

Its spamable and less of a Overkill

Thats why you should try running short rifle

You cant Overkill If your damage Output is low

[burnt inlet]

arbalist

[coral dune]

what is hel rifle's match up against chargers?

[burnt inlet]

1 shots

which is where hel rifle is better than hel gun

[coral dune]

and hel gun's?

[burnt inlet]

i think two shot

unless to the back

which ur not gonna see

[ripe hamlet]

2 shots

[burnt inlet]

why is there no pic of a checkpoint on endscreen what is this

[tardy ingot]

?

[burnt inlet]

I couldn’t find any on Google but I created my own

[burnt inlet]

Also I forgot to booster scroll the sub 11:22 but got it via lobby :3

[grizzled patrol]

I can datamine it later for you

[burnt inlet]

does everything get killed in R6D1 when we TP to fight the kraken?

[tardy ingot]

iirc no

[coral dune]

how much harder is hel gun to play compared to hel rifle?

[burnt inlet]

just try both of them

[frail heart]

hel gun is probably more mechanically challenging in general

[burnt inlet]

thoughts on one guy moving MWP during second red scan?

[tardy ingot]

typically it should already be at the bottom of the staircase, so there isnt rly a benefit anymore (and you lose a flat 0,3 seconds for it)

[burnt inlet]

we usually get it at first sustain due to the MWPer being the time limit, i can attach the relevant timestamps

https://youtu.be/ctH0k0NVRxA?t=92 antares controls MWP thru entire game

https://youtu.be/ctH0k0NVRxA?t=134 (legit drops to scan and then drops the MWP)

https://youtu.be/ctH0k0NVRxA?t=218 (picks to move it to smwhr close to door)

idk if we could have 3 people holding after checkpoint and antares running down to grab it

actually nvm we could

[carmine grotto]

we typically move it right after 1st S scan to the area of last scan, then move it after last scan up near the top of stairs

[frail heart]

you have time to grab while checkpoing door is opening

[burnt inlet]

is the missed time when he drops it for first scan

[burnt inlet]

tru tru

[burnt inlet]

yea ik that just we thought itd be better to lose the 0.3 for added security

[frail heart]

can if you wnt

[safe cradle]

Does this game get much better with music on?

I've disabled it and nearly never heard the soundtrack

[frail heart]

i only use the music to know if enemies are still alive

but i keep it lower

[hoary mason]

No

[ripe hamlet]

Combat music is pretty handy for finding the stuck sleepers

[uneven kiln]

EnemyAnimationFix and StuckEnemyFix together (if you are OK with running mods) are pretty handy for preventing stuck sleepers

I similarly only really use music to tell if there are enemies

[soft crater]

just turns on my Spotify Playlist and vibe.

[ripe hamlet]

I can’t play gtfo while listening to random songs

Gotta listen for the sleepers

[ripe hamlet]

Apparently if you keep restarting at r6b2 sec checkpoint after clearing the blood doors, the blood doors will spawn decreasingly fewer enemies

[uneven kiln]

is this applying to both remaining blood doors?

[ripe hamlet]

I believe you’d have to clear them before resetting otherwise it wouldn’t work

I’m not sure if it’s opening or clearing the doors that does the trick however

I can get the blood doors from spawning 2 hybrids and an army of strikers to just a handful of strikers and no hybrid whatsoever lol

[uneven kiln]

adding to the mountain of checkpoint jank

this also might be the heat system

[keen seal]

it does also go up in intensity when you have los to enemies

that's what I think at least, might not be right

[ocean spindle]

more like when there's enemies nearby

and when there's some far away

[burnt inlet]

more when theres enemies up

[ocean spindle]

depends on the situation

music changes if it's stealth or combat

[keen seal]

there def are different layers depending on if you see the enemy or not

[burnt inlet]

@sick fossil if you see a new enemy type that’s black and sounds weird, full charge hammer to the back or full charge two knife’s to the back

[inland oasis]

tar man?

[undone raven]

ur black and sound weird

[burnt inlet]

You’ve literally seen my hands wdym

My twinky twinky

Handy handies

[undone raven]

im pretty sure your a charger irl

can i hammer you in your back

[burnt inlet]

Yesplz 🙏

[inland oasis]

@burnt inlet are we both twinks

[burnt inlet]

You’re a fake one

[inland oasis]

how

im built like a femboy

[burnt inlet]

There’s no proof of your twinkyness

[inland oasis]

what about my sassyness

[burnt inlet]

Just cuz ur pc looks good doesnt mean that it is good

[burnt inlet]

Too little too late

[grizzled patrol]

twinks are submissive. Test failed

[inland oasis]

i listen to jpegmafia

[inland oasis]

im not submissive? 🥺 👉 👈

[burnt inlet]

Listen to lily Allen then we can speak

[inland oasis]

Barrington DeVaughn Hendricks solos

[burnt inlet]

This is what we mean

[topaz anvil]

Who?

[burnt inlet]

If you were a Twink you’d say ”yes”

[burnt inlet]

I swear she’s brtsh like you

[topaz anvil]

I only listen to good artists like Koraii

[burnt inlet]

Me when discord eats my * for breakfast

[inland oasis]

my bisexual black rapper with only pale white kids as fans solos

[grizzled patrol]

for some reason all twinks i know listen to ecco2k

[topaz anvil]

Who

[burnt inlet]

Fake twinks

[topaz anvil]

You never know they might listen to L*ly *llen too

[burnt inlet]

It’s going down now solos tbh

[inland oasis]

and sza

[inland oasis]

❓

[burnt inlet]

Just cuz they do one thing right doesn’t mean they do everything right

[burnt inlet]

The song from persona

[inland oasis]

random

beta male strategies solos

[civic wave]

please but a backslash before each asterisk

[grizzled patrol]

just another trendy tiktok track Zzz

[burnt inlet]

Says the guy that listens to 2 fast 2 furious by Loki (not even a bad song)

Also that trend went so quick I didn’t get tired of the song

[inland oasis]

dont think you heard about piano masturbation ポルノビデオ on tiktok

[grizzled patrol]

dont disrespect me like that

my music playlist is way worse than that

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

Not surprising

[inland oasis]

mine is only experimental hiphop

[burnt inlet]

Bro defo listens to treaniboii

[inland oasis]

listen to buttermilk jesus

[burnt inlet]

Can’t be listening to a religion as a twink

[inland oasis]

i am not religious at all

[inland oasis]

listen to steppa pig

[topaz anvil]

Noe

[inland oasis]

@burnt inlet listen to steppa pig thats proof that im a twink

[upper ginkgo]

why do people say c-trip and e-mine

and not c-mine and e-mine

[ocean spindle]

cummine and explosiveecummine

is that better

[ocean spindle]

:[

[fathom ice]

I say e trip

[sturdy glen]

makes them distinct

[prime musk]

c-trip and e-trip sound very similar

[upper ginkgo]

community driven naming conventions are so beautiful 🥹

bbc is an unironic callout

[civic wave]

there's also the fact that

c nades exist

so to distinguish between nade and trip

you get c nade and c trip

[tardy ingot]

wait people say e-mine?

I dont think ive heard that

C-trip, nade yea

but isnt it just mine (or consumable mine)

[civic wave]

i feel like i call it e mine

[ocean spindle]

e boy

[burnt inlet]

I call it e nade

[ocean spindle]

c<n i call u e fish

[burnt inlet]

Only if I can call you e jackulation

[ocean spindle]

b but im not even called jack

[burnt inlet]

I could make you be

[tardy ingot]

I dont think ive heard you call it that either

(On another note, I dont think the mine needs the „e“ as much as the cfoam trip needs the c to clarify that its not a normal tripmine

Altho aswell
We dont rly find many consumable trips when playing together usually. And even if we do its not a big callout

[civic wave]

it probably varies

i could scrub some r4e1 runs i guess but i also cannot be bothered to

i know i sometimes call cfoam trip mine "c trippy", could do the same with e mine

[tardy ingot]

My sleep deprived brain thinking on what exactly you mean

Calling the mine

1. c trippy
2. e trippy
3. e miny

[civic wave]

few days ago in brazil skip runs i called it e trip

[past mesa]

Because it is called the mine deploer

And the c foam tripmine

[gentle forge]

@opal lily Would it be possible to add a variable to the config to control the brightness of the crosshair, similar to how you handle everything else there? I know that the mod brightens the crosshair by default, but it would be nice to set the brightness to default, but still have control over colors as your mod allows

[opal lily]

The default brightening just uses a whiter color by default. If you want the crosshair to be darker just use darker colors

[gentle forge]

Oh, so here:

## Vanilla default: #7d7d7d99
# Setting type: String
# Default value: A6A6A6FF
Default Color = A6A6A6FF```
I should just set it to vanilla default? I didn't even see that at first

[opal lily]

Vanilla default is normal yeah

[gentle forge]

Damn sorry; I just completely glazed over that

Another question I had - can you explain the difference between the two circles? For example here: https://i.imgur.com/KIfItgS.jpeg

Ah, that smaller circle must represent the hidden spread reduction

[opal lily]

Yes, that's the first shot accuracy spread

Can be disabled in the config

[gentle forge]

How do I do so? This may be another case of blindness on my part but I read through the config like 3x now and I don't see any relevant option

[opal lily]

AccurateCrosshair config

[gentle forge]

oh god damn it lol

[opal lily]

Should've mentioned that lol

[gentle forge]

nah I just forgot they're two separate mods

# Setting type: Boolean
# Default value: true
Follow Recoil = true```
```## Enables or disables the visual crosshair bloom when shooting.
## Note: Pop is not scaled to the accurate size and may be disproportionately large.
# Setting type: Boolean
# Default value: false
Pop Enabled = false```
What are the difference between these two parameters?

With the first one, is this what moves your camera when you fire a weapon? So if it's false, you basically aren't affected by recoli? Or am I misunderstanding this

And on the second one; in the vanilla game does your effective crosshair actually increase with sustained fire, but it's not visually displayed? And this parameter attempts to show what's actually happening behind the scenes?

[safe cradle]

The tripmine is tripyours if you tripwant it tripenough.

[grizzled patrol]

I See you did Not sleep enough

[vital yarrow]

what's the % chance for c-trips to spawn in the R5D1 secondary, specifically in the sustain scan zone before of pmom? all my attempts trying the secondary ive had NONE spawn anywhere before the pmom door - but after looking around with mods/noclip i discovered that all the c-trips spawn Instead INSIDE the pmom room, where there is always been atleast 2 of them from what ive looked around. why??

if they dont spawn in the scan zone then do they in the respawn zone before it?

[grizzled patrol]

Iirc consumables are tied to zones

[vital yarrow]

are any c-trips supposed to spawn before the pmom zone then? cause that seems pretty weird

[tardy ingot]

To lockers even

[hollow harbor]

I think remember instances of opening pmom with ctrip so probably

[tardy ingot]

tbf I dont think the c-trip will do much against pmom

kill babies, nuke pmom

[hollow harbor]

eva: just kill it

[fathom ice]

ngl jumping in with double scatter is not that bad either

[tardy ingot]

To elaborate

Its not like you would rush her with c-trip

[tardy ingot]

are they running double scatter tho

[fathom ice]

just saying

felt good when had it

[hollow harbor]

I'm running double har

[fathom ice]

my bad

[tardy ingot]

Reminds me of the guy saying ray and me have bad weapon takes

The. Recommeds veruta for smalls and arbalist for bigger targets and says scattergun is unreliable

[fathom ice]

😔

[tardy ingot]

But to elaborate

You either rush with c-trip, which is kinda the same as doing it normally with 2scatterguns

Or you play very safe, kill babies and then hope pmom runs into it
But if you do that, clearing 1 extra baby wave should be very chill (in most cases)

its still funny if they actually dont give you a c-trip before pmom but during it

[vital yarrow]

its a whole different thing with bots. they often start meleeing the babies as pmom is birthing while i try to unload all my ammo on the pmom and we all die

its annoying

while trying the door with mods i yoinked the c-trips from mom zone and even with one c-trip and max foam launcher on the floor (for when mom rushes out) scatter and sawed-off spam (and thank christ the bots shooting..) got her pretty quick

but i just feel like you cant foam pmom without the c-trips

could be that im bad and playing with a bot handicap but i know its doable

[frail heart]

Open top small door and funnel all babies through there, then get pmom to birth and focus babies, then kill pmom

Don’t try and kill pmom if she starts birthing

[vital yarrow]

tho, to be fair, i havent ever fully checked the zone with tank and the cell in secondary if it has any c-trips

[frail heart]

She will just stagger and moving birth

[civic wave]

the danger comes from the babies

so you kill the babies as they spawn

then there's no danger

[vital yarrow]

yeah true..

ill try doing that

[tardy ingot]

She needs a ton of foam

C-trip is just an auto freeze effect IF the enemy can be foamed

(And then also shoots foam)

[safe cradle]

Is it even possible to sleep enough?

From what I understand a foam tripmine is composed of 2 parts: an invisible insta-freezing ray of foam, and the actual bubbles that work like normal foam.

For what it's worth, in R3D1, if noone did the map before and I just want to clear it while being 100% sure, I just position myself as to spawnkill the babies, HEL Shotty+CS is enough for me to kill all babies save for like a bunch of them.

Bots also kill babies very well, I dont think I ever saw them trying to hammer the babies I'll be sincere

perhaps it's just the difference circumstances since I never did R5D1 with bots.

[vital yarrow]

the bots are very funky in r5d1 for me, i could list everything that could and has gone wrong because of them

tho most of them are just for any level i play with bots and prolly common issues bots have anyway

[tardy ingot]

bots melee when enemies get too close iirc
so if you, like you explained, ran up/into pmom to try and kill her, they would be close to her and babies then they would probably be more likely to melee

[vital yarrow]

i see

[soft crater]

I have. Bishop DID NOT like that one particular baby striker

(Better than when I saw them scattergun a single baby striker. ~~ Dont worry about why bot had scatter. Pubs are weird ~~ )

[grizzled patrol]

If you chug enough sleeping pills maybe

[burnt inlet]

Trippa troppa troppa trippa

[civic wave]

oh for fucks sake that word gets automodded

because of the middle 4 letters

[burnt inlet]

But cunt doesn’t😭

[civic wave]

FUCKING

thera*eutic range of a drug

you are leaving the thera*eutic range

[burnt inlet]

Therapist

[civic wave]

by chugging sleeping pills

[burnt inlet]

Bro wat is this automod

[civic wave]

it also used to stop you from saying grape

thankfully nobody likes fruit

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[civic wave]

what do i do for lunch

the kitchen is dirty

[burnt inlet]

Isnt the nickname for Richard also automodded?

[civic wave]

i don't feel safe cooking in it

[burnt inlet]

Asian buffé

[civic wave]

nah i'm pretty sure dick is fine

dickhead however

WAIT

[burnt inlet]

😭

Is backshots automoded?

Apparently not

[grizzled patrol]

Use one of those dumb TikTok lifehacks with them using foil on plates to Keep them clean

[burnt inlet]

Isnt the singular of cocks automoded?

[grizzled patrol]

For some reason Cu*k is automodded

[burnt inlet]

Just call it idk (insert random celebrity no one likes)

[grizzled patrol]

It is really unfortunate that i cannot call a spectate Lobby for my friend a "Cu*k Chair"

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[sudden nexus]

dick?

[burnt inlet]

Nvm

[sudden nexus]

but singular cocks

why

[burnt inlet]

Idk

[acoustic sedge]

Hello just bought GTFO are there any Germans to play with and learn the game

[digital mural]

Check #hc-europe

[acoustic sedge]

Merci

[burnt inlet]

That’s not German

[acoustic sedge]

Dankeschööönnn

[safe cradle]

The Germans are perhaps the most Europeans in GTFO

[old radish]

Hello, we have a problem, I had huge desync, so I left the lobby. However now I cant even join back, abyone got a solution?

[safe cradle]

As in there's more Germans than any other Euro Nations

[safe cradle]

tell host to get new code

to do so, host has to press esc, then go settings, then copy lobby ID and paste that ID to you

[old radish]

we have the new code

[safe cradle]

remember to tell him to go to settings

[tardy ingot]

we are certainly the most european /s

[old radish]

Now one other tried it and he can join back just fine

[safe cradle]

by cant join you mean you dont get the "join xxx lobby" button

[old radish]

One more info, the bot doesnt spawn instead of me

[safe cradle]

or that you press it and it just loads then kick you

[old radish]

i have the button

[safe cradle]

That's pretty bad

[old radish]

it fails on joining session

[runic roost]

Lobbies cooked ggs

[safe cradle]

Usually when bots didnt spawn in my lobbies is because they were borked

as in, the lobbies

I've never known 100% what caused it but I suspect somewhere along the lines my connection with Steam got fucked up not enough to boot me to main screen but enough to make the lobby go byebye

In those cases I wasn't even able to get a code thought

[digital mural]

Lobby died?

Probably

[frail heart]

When is maintenance?

[safe cradle]

Whenever I had that (I used to have it a lot on ALT R5 release), I couldn't even copy the code, MiniCarrot's host still can so I dont know

[digital mural]

It was yesterday

[frail heart]

Fair

[tardy ingot]

yesterday (dw I hate the same thought)

[old radish]

Idk, our theory is that one person fills up both spots, because when one of us leaves the other can join

[frail heart]

Is the slot locked?

[digital mural]

Change the player slot to locked

[safe cradle]

sure the slots are open?

[digital mural]

And then back to player

[safe cradle]

Tell host to put all the slots on Players and Bots

[old radish]

yeah all the slots are on players and bots

we played fine until i left

just the desync

he tried the switch up, didnt work

welp they are gonna try with only 3

[tardy ingot]

what level?
how deep?

[old radish]

R1D1

not that hard

buuuuut

[digital mural]

They'll be fine

[old radish]

u know whats there

i ws biotracker

[tardy ingot]

theyll be fine yea
but if you want to play as 4 just restart (level is very short)

[tardy ingot]

it would be hilarious if they didnt know about the shadows

[old radish]

they know

[safe cradle]

If they've 3 PDWs or shit like that they're gonna be fine too

or 2 that aim well

[old radish]

they have no PDW

[safe cradle]

or 1 that can quickly swap to the special

or PRs

[frail heart]

Did you restart your game?

[old radish]

yeah multiple times

[frail heart]

Hmm

Have you tried joining through steam?

[tardy ingot]

any flashlights work fine rly
(I honestly prefer flashlights on a good gun over pdw)

Precision rifle is good for this tho (just casually solo hold shadows with 0 issues or awareness)

[old radish]

Oh havent tried that

[digital mural]

It sounds like the game detects the player in the slot
But since he can't join he can never leave

[old radish]

yeah

maybe if we had mods to kick the player

[tardy ingot]

we love desync

[digital mural]

I had something similar happen but idk

[safe cradle]

I know of a nuclear option

[frail heart]

Have host change the player slot to locked, then back to players and bots

[safe cradle]

That could fix it

[tardy ingot]

its very fun when a desynced player breaks a lobby (and it only gets fixed when they leave)

[safe cradle]

But it could just fuck up the lobby even further

[old radish]

tried it, didnt work

[safe cradle]

And it's to just host migrate

[frail heart]

Weird

[safe cradle]

I actually wonder, does taking someone's slot reset the data on the slot?

[old radish]

Idk, i dont know too much about how it works

just speculating mostly

[safe cradle]

Because if so you could try to get someone else to join other than your 3 friends, take your slots, quit, then you take his place

[tardy ingot]

its getting worse and worse

if you consider

that by starting anew a few min ago

they likely couldve gotten where they were before the desync :(

[uneven kiln]

eva how often do you desync with checkpoints

[safe cradle]

I mean they're probably slower than you think (NO OFFENSE)

[tardy ingot]

nono, obviously

[safe cradle]

So that statement may not be true

[tardy ingot]

depends

[old radish]

I mean we arent really that good, we spent 1h until we ghot there xd

[tardy ingot]

yea
it kinda depends on where they were and how experienced they are
given that it was 15 minutes ago they would need to be experienced to reacht the shutdown in that timeframe

[old radish]

but its also true i had to basically guess which enemies were alive and which were not

[digital mural]

Maybe giving it another full try couldn't be so bad

[tardy ingot]

oh yikes

[digital mural]

You guys will probably go faster this time

[tardy ingot]

for example when we tried r6d1 with kenny host, we had desync in like 7/7 attempts

(on checkpoint itself)

[old radish]

ok they failed

thx for the help

[tardy ingot]

[digital mural]

Damn

[tardy ingot]

you got this

we believe

channel the power of gtfo randoms

[uneven kiln]

clearly the solution is to simply remove all checkpoints from the game

[old radish]

Thx, well do it sometime

[uneven kiln]

then less desync

[old radish]

there isnt even a heckpoint there xd

[safe cradle]

you might be joking but when checkpoints first got introduced the debate was kinda vile

[tardy ingot]

oh we are mostly heckling about that since checkpoints absolutely break with any amount of desync

[tardy ingot]

they also were genuinely game breaking at the start

And I still think they are smth to be used cautiously

Its why I prefer beginners starting in r1 (to r3)

[safe cradle]

From my anecdotal experience most of the backlash was "game not hardcore anymore 😠"

[old radish]

Xd

[safe cradle]

But yeah they are very jury-riggedly implemented

even now

[frail heart]

There should be an option to disable them

[safe cradle]

But it doesn't matter since you can just return to lobby

[frail heart]

The fucking desync problems they make is insane

And you don’t need them

[tardy ingot]

breh

[safe cradle]

why? you can just choose to return to lobby

[frail heart]

Speedruns

[safe cradle]

...

[tardy ingot]

you know my opinion that I dont consider checkpoints for difficulty of a level

[safe cradle]

The what, 10 seconds of a scan?

[uneven kiln]

even if you don't use checkpoints at all, what frosty is referring to is that by simply scanning for a checkpoint you can get desynced

[frail heart]

The whole game breaking for a minute plus

It’s not just speedruns

It’s normal games as well

[safe cradle]

if you use them?

[frail heart]

No they can desync the whole game

After they complete

Because they try and send a shit tonne of data

We literally couldn’t play on Kenny host on r6d1

[safe cradle]

Weird I've never had desync getting worse

I mean not by that or I never noticed

Perhaps because most maps have 1

few have 2 and r6d1 has 5000

[tardy ingot]

I know frosty making the speedrun point is a bit funny
(altho its not because the scan takes too long, its them breaking and basically not/never opening)

but I encountered this in normal gameplay too with checkpoints and it can be infuriating to wait for 2-3 min just so a door opens

[uneven kiln]

tgb briefly explained it to me yesterday, what happened was Kenny was host and he could get through the checkpoint door immediately but all 3 other players had to wait awhile before being let in one at a time and this wasted a ton of time

[tardy ingot]

basically
you finish the checkpoint

and then the game doesnt update anymore for whichever of the clients desynced

door stays closed

[safe cradle]

I'm familiar with "too much desync and door is closed"

[frail heart]

It also means that enemies can still attack you and you can’t tell what’s alive and what isn’t and you will just die after getting resynced

[safe cradle]

I never noticed that checkpoint doors had more chances of doing that (or increasingly so if I understood)

[tardy ingot]

its not even that
theoretically (since we are under no danger) we could just afk and wait for it to open (even if the end time would look like ass) but it genuinely didnt open even after 2 minutes

[orchid granite]

i have a stupid off topic question but what text to speech was used for the security doors? i really love it and want to hopefully recreate it

[tardy ingot]

for normal doors its rather them "closing" again because the client catches up

checkpoints doors just never start opening

[uneven kiln]

oh wow

[safe cradle]

I assume you desync because tgb and you are from EU while frosty and kenny are from AUS?

[frail heart]

Nah

Cause when tgb hosts there’s no issue lmao

[safe cradle]

...then it isn't 100% the checkpoint?

[tardy ingot]

it is

[frail heart]

It is

[tardy ingot]

because gtfo is peer to peer

so each person being host can change things

I can have good connection, but be a bad host

[safe cradle]

I mean, then you're a bad host?

[frail heart]

It’s a checkpoint issue

[safe cradle]

Whatever, I get your point, it makes desync worse

[tardy ingot]

thats... the checkpoint issue

[little pilot]

it is honestly checkpoint issue

none of these issues are even remotely noticeable without checkpoints

[tardy ingot]

we can play other missions and typically not suffer too much
the moment a checkpoint is involved it breaks

showcases -> r2b3, r2c1 vs r7b2 and r7c3

[safe cradle]

regardless of host

[frail heart]

Our r7b2 speed has desync issues on checkpoint door haha

[tardy ingot]

"yesnt"
better host = less likely to break

any issue = massive break

[safe cradle]

I still wouldn't remove checkpoints 😎

But I get why you hate them so much

[tardy ingot]

I think some should be straight up removed

[safe cradle]

And it makes more sense than what I initially thought I guess

[tardy ingot]

others I think work fine in the levels design (I am very aware that vanilla gameplay >>>>>> speedrunning in importance)

[uneven kiln]

Checkpoints not working correctly makes the game worse for everybody, from speedruns to normal games, and being able to justify more evil level design

[tardy ingot]

Imo checkpoints wouldnt be necessary if the game was designed with some of its flaws removed

[tardy ingot]

fun fact
level design doesnt care about checkpoints

[safe cradle]

IMHO checkpoints wouldn't be necessary if maps were more like R3D1 and less like R5D1

[tardy ingot]

they are only there as an accessability tool (the better of the 2 gtfo has)

[safe cradle]

As in some maps suffer from bloat of alarms

[tardy ingot]

R5D1 being one of the worst designed levels 💀

[digital mural]

Wdym
Its a peak level

Amazing level

So good so fun

[little pilot]

if the game was more open about how to play and would teach players some stuff it just wouldn't require checkpoints

[uneven kiln]

Sorry to overlook this question, but there are two TTS voices in GTFO, the OG one, and the current one. I will link the current one in #gtfo-media as I believe this is the one you are referring to and it has some unused voicelines for Alarm Deactivated and Elevated Threat Level. I do not know which TTS voice they used offhand

[tardy ingot]

change up some of the badly designed tedious levels
give people actual ideas on what to do
bam

[little pilot]

the reality is checkpoints are a half assed addition with the purpose of just trying to patchwork the massive issue of the game being very very very bad at teaching players how to play it

[uneven kiln]

this is why we subscribe to D4RKEVA and watch guides

[orchid granite]

thank you i love that voice so much if you have any idea what it could be i'd love to know

[safe cradle]

I dont know maybe they just didnt want people to know everything/most of what we know, early in the game cycle devs banned "datamined" info whenever info that they didnt like was released

[little pilot]

one of the main criticism of the game is "missions are too long" - meanwhile any level can be done in less than an hour... the issue is u gotta teach players to play on that level.

[safe cradle]

even stuff like damage of guns, that you can guess with 1 friend and shooting each other, pen and paper

[orchid granite]

i think it sounds a bit like a higher pitch speak n spell because it has that raspier tone but i have no clue

[little pilot]

this isn't about datamining or stuff like that, this is just about taking the game mechanics and showcasing them in a more easy to understand way

just think about fast stealthing

it is literally a core gameplay mechanic that the devs seem to have intended

and yet

[safe cradle]

I've a counter argument that is the same against the "improvements in technology will CREATE new jobs" what if you're not very good?

not you as in you of course

you as in the player

other coop games let you select difficulty

so that isn't a game problem

[little pilot]

the problem isn't players who aren't good. the problem is the game doesn't allow u to play well even if ur shooting and general ability to understand the game is good

like think about what not being good means

it means that ur shooting is bad, ur understanding of game mechanics/comprehension is bad or that both of these are bad

shooting can be mitigated since u have 4 players in ur team and the reality is the game doesn't require amazing shooting skills

the reality is a player would be truly bad at this game if they either dont like shooters, horror or have a very hard time understanding the game mechanics

and keep in mind: game mechanics are a bit of stealth, how alarm spawns work and maybe very little of how a few guns interact with certain enemies

[tardy ingot]

gtfo as a game creates a rly tense atmosphere
couple that, with the game being spread as "dont use your ammo, its super duper scarce" and "super difficult, punishing and long"

and you get beginners easily panicking on singular wake ups, taking dmg and snowballing themselves into deaths (missing shots, taking hurried and bad decisions)

panic isnt unusual and is honestly a good thing when starting out and in a rough scenario. Its just that for beginners EVERYTHING can look like a rough scenario. Crouching around already cleared rooms for example or taking multiple minutes to silently kill 3-4 enemies

[safe cradle]

Who was it that told "game was just poorly understood back then" when commenting OG R2 clear rates?

[tardy ingot]

I blame this on the game, due to its lack of accessability (not teaching beginners much in the tutorial) and its wrongly spread "ammo scarcity and difficulty".

Mind you, I think the game is difficult and ammo is scarce when compared to other games. But both get overblown and lead to what I just explained imo

[tardy ingot]

many people ?

Ive said it in the past
kenny explained it like that to spiff I think

who then explained it like that In his video maybe?

[little pilot]

over time the skill of players will improve by learning more advanced techs and data about each part of the game

[uneven kiln]

the ability to think quickly and make proper judgement calls/communicate in the face of extreme circumstances is also something I see as a struggle to players even if they know how mechanics work and have fair aim

[little pilot]

but the game MUST teach the bare minimum

to allow for that

[safe cradle]

I mean, it's clear that the plan was not to let players know too much about it, at the beginning

[tardy ingot]

I hope to think that I have tend to have a very beginner-ish perspective when it comes to what difficulty is and should be like

[little pilot]

ngl in retrospect that is just a bad design choice

[tardy ingot]

I disagree tgb

[little pilot]

a bit sad but eh

[tardy ingot]

I think not knowing much can be good

its the reverse situation of modern handholding that is the issue

if you explain basically nothing

then thats also bad

I also dont judge them for not explaining stuff until r6/r7

but with the tutorial they couldve rly given beginners a quick rundown

like, why the fuck

does the tutorial have so many rooms

when theres is a total of 5 sleeping enemies

and they are in 2 rooms

that you get to after over a minute of FULL SPRINTING

[safe cradle]

It depends on how you see the game tbh. A long time ago I explained 3 newbies how alerting enemies work and whatnot and one of them straight out said "this game isn't scary anymore..."

[tardy ingot]

like ???

devs

[tardy ingot]

tbf I dont think this game is supposed to be scary

its tense

but anyone going into this for a "horror game" first

should be told that it isnt like that

[safe cradle]

I mean that's the vibe they give out

[little pilot]

this is indeed the one disadvantage for explaining stuff out

[safe cradle]

from the loading screen to everything else

[tardy ingot]

its crazy how many people on twitch think this game has jumpscares (It has like... 1 real one?)

[safe cradle]

it tries to give "immersion" (screaming aside)

[little pilot]

the reality is horror + hardcore + resource management dont really all work together

[digital mural]

Wait, 1 jumpscare?

[tardy ingot]

hmm
I think to create a good tense atmosphere it has to feel like it supresses you

which is smth horror games ALSO do

[safe cradle]

R3C1 I guess

[tardy ingot]

id count pmom scream in r3c1

[digital mural]

Oh

[safe cradle]

I got it!

[digital mural]

Idk if that could be considered one

[safe cradle]

I won a german beer of choice

[tardy ingot]

My issues for gtfo lie on not even referencing basic mechanics in its tutorial after having created 6 full rundowns

[little pilot]

biggest jumpscare is r7a1 shaeffer asmr

[uneven kiln]

runner up candidate being the opening sequence of R4E1 when it becomes very apparent as to what type of Error Alarm it is

GTFO doesn't really play that hard into horror, it's more about tension building and oppressive situations that instill dread and panic

[safe cradle]

I mean I think the tutorial is shit and should explain more. Maybe alarm 2 rooms away and something like "try not to kill an enemy when another in range glows". And back multiplier I guess could also be explained somewhat.

[little pilot]

oh god the back damage multiplier

never referenced anywhere

[digital mural]

There's back damage?????

[tardy ingot]

imo the tutorial shouldve

1. explained back dmg (roughly, just say you do more from behind)
2. explain how to use a mine (just have an indicator of where to place a mine for a blood door or smth)
3. actually have you list/query and ping a key
4. tell you how the fuck to place your sentry (they tried, but did so horribly)

Imo doing those 4 things already would make people be more prepared

Now you also cut out the long winded running section to the first key (we have way better tiles, why use this one). Remove the checkpoint (cuz if you only need 1 minute to get to enemies, then you dont need a checkpoint)

[safe cradle]

I've also met people that had NO IDEA they could use foam on doors (does tutorial even talk about it since it forces sentry?)

[tardy ingot]

nop

tho

it tells you in the foam description

I blame that on people

[digital mural]

They should have made a separate room for each tool and then force the player to change tool

[tardy ingot]

they love reading gun descriptions, reading "low ammo capacity" and shying away from a gun

[safe cradle]

I mean the sentry is a bit on the player tbh, it has a green range to tell you how much it goes for

[digital mural]

One for sentry, one for mine and one for foam

[tardy ingot]

which isnt even accurate

but its still a good thing nonetheless

[safe cradle]

I mean for burst it's good enough

What about scouts?

[tardy ingot]

not in the tutorial

let the team figure that out in the lobby

[safe cradle]

It doesn't explain anything but I get the characters voice the "dont touch spaghetti" so...

[tardy ingot]

if people pay attention, they learn about it in a few tries

[digital mural]

Nah, scouts being an unknown danger like shadows at first is a powerful move for the player

[tardy ingot]

scout 100% shouldnt be in the tutorial, but in early levels

like they are

they work better with multiple people panicking

same for giants in the tutorial

[safe cradle]

IMHO other stuff should NEVER be explained, like how chargers work or cscouts or what's a surge alarm

[tardy ingot]

like worst case you use a giant to tell a player that shooting in stealth is OK

for the tutorial

[safe cradle]

ah yes

that'd be good

also mention trying to get even on main/special

[tardy ingot]

honestly it would be interesting to have a "better tutorial" mod

but id assume it would be a fuck ton of work

if youd do it to what id want

plus its still a mod

so like lol

[digital mural]

R8A2 sec as tutorial

[safe cradle]

TBH anyone that cares enough can watch guides

[digital mural]

[tardy ingot]

ye

[safe cradle]

enough to install a mod I mean

[bold canopy]

im having server sync issues, no idea how to fix it.

https://tenor.com/view/färd-pferd-horse-pferdegesicht-horseface-gif-3528284947006317144

outside of GTFO, im having P2P issues still

besides this, internet is normal

[white idol]

question about C-Foam boosters. is it additional per blob when it does split or is each blob you shoot with more c foam. theres alot of technicals to it that we are confused about if someone has a good idea how it works

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

[digital mural]

That probably means your internet is currently dying

[digital mural]

Less ammo used per blob

For better effect you want to always charge the foam launcher

[white idol]

that is probably the best case

we were so confused by how it technically worked

[digital mural]

Yeah it can be confusing

[white idol]

wording si so funny

[digital mural]

Basically you have "more" total ammo

[white idol]

thanks man!

[tough hollow]

does the C-foam booster work the the C-foam grenade too?

[digital mural]

No

Foam boosters don't make you shoot more foam per use, just gives you the ability to use more foam in total.

And foam nades are a one time use only

[tough hollow]

alr thanks for the clarity

[digital mural]

1 foam nade is all you need to successfully foam almost every single enemy in the game

So it's more than enough

[heavy jackal]

what colour is it?

is it white or grey

the logo is very confusing

[burnt inlet]

its red

[civic wave]

it's a cost reduction on the amount of tool it takes, but because of rounding you don't see good effect unless you're doing big charges

[inland oasis]

@south totem

[south totem]

Sir

[inland oasis]

madame

[coral dune]

do the bio tracker rings show distance in intervals of 5 meters?

[civic wave]

it should show on the biotracker, i believe its 10m

as in part of the sprite is the distance marking

might be harder to see on low settings

[worn knot]

Best weapons for R1C1 ?

[tardy ingot]

Hel rifle

Bio tracker + 3 Burst sentry or 2 burst sentry and a sniper sentry

[worn knot]

For primary ?

[tardy ingot]

Matters far less
Minmaxing would be hel revolver/sawed off

But if you have hel rifle/burst sentry and you hold in the right spot you rly shouldnt have issues

[runic roost]

Hel auto pistol (1-2 max tho)

[worn knot]

And other team comp primary?

[runic roost]

Hel revo like dark said and sawd off is always good

Burst rifle is aight

[tardy ingot]

Dont take hel auto pistol for r1c1 o.O

You wanna kill

[safe cradle]

I usually take DMR/PR and stand on the bulldozer popping heads

DMR can onetap shooters from a fair enough distance

and PR can onetap both from a pretty big distance

[safe cradle]

this is also true

tbh I think as along as you aren't doing outright bad stuff in R1C1 you're gonna pass

[coral dune]

why is hel rifle the best for r1c1?

[tardy ingot]

Its 1 of the 2 best wave clear weapons (but the one thats easier to use since it one shots smalls anywhere to the body)

It gets kills at basically all ranges you encounter and does so while getting extra kills with penetration.

It also is a good option into giants/hybrids if you arent running a specialized options for bigs

since you only aim for body you hit more shots

[coral dune]

and I’m assuming that the other option for wave clear is hel gun

[tardy ingot]

Yep

[low pasture]

Piggybacking off the question, what about for R2D2? Tried DMR + Burst Cannon/Combat Shotgun. DMR seems great for the long corridors and decent ammo reserves, but haven't had luck when shit hits the fan. Might be other playstyle issues than weapons though.

[tardy ingot]

well you can clear r1c1 with any gun and theres obviously a ton of options for wave clear

But hel rifle/gun are the best for this

[tardy ingot]

Hel rifle dominates, hel gun also still is far above 3rd

Burst cannon (or sniper if rly desperate) work for anti giant/hybrid options

Dmr is a good choice, altho hel revolver/sawed off will outperform it

[coral dune]

is there a level where hel rifle isn’t good?

[frail heart]

R1A1 solo speedrun

Idk

[low pasture]

Thanks. HEL Rifle + Burst Cannon seems a little ammo hungry, but guess that means I should make each shot count. HEL revolver + Sawed off is old reliable, but it lacks too much range in this rundown for my liking. Will try the rifle cannon combo you suggested.

[tardy ingot]

Not rly

An all rounder weapon that doubles as top tier wave clear is always pretty solid even at worst case

There is levels where other guns outshine it

[coral dune]

aren’t hel revo and sawed off both main weapons?

[tardy ingot]

but thats not the same as not good obviously

[low pasture]

Meant combat sorry

Rarely use them together, butboth are solid

[tardy ingot]

With hel rifle you should hit each shot pretty much yes (not difficult, since you just aim for bodyshots)

But missing a few isnt the end of the world

Burst cannon can feel really ammo hungry, since getting good drag kills is a skill to learn. But burst cannon will also primarily be your answer for giants and not be used for smalls most of the time (ammo balance it tho!!)

[coral dune]

are there any levels where hel gun is a bad option?

[fathom ice]

no

[ocean spindle]

when a gun is as flexible no not rlly

what there miight be howver is leevels where anotheer option is better

[coral dune]

just how flexible is hel gun?

[fathom ice]

wave clear

dot dot dot

[tardy ingot]

Top tier Wave clear into anything not a giant

Solid into giants (due to pen)

Only rly falls off into bosses
And isnt as insanely effective in very spammy short range as it usually is

[coral dune]

so is wave of smalls and/or chargers just a universal constant in every level and that’s why hel gun is flexible?

[uneven kiln]

yes

[civic wave]

sorta

hel gun can be fired anyway and into any enemy type without feeling too bad

so that does a lot

and there's always enemies, so there's always lines

[uneven kiln]

chargers are "smalls" as considered by cfoam anyway (2 blobs)

[tardy ingot]

Strikers, shooters, chargers, nightmares
Even flyers and babies

[coral dune]

what makes hel gun considered hard to use?

[tardy ingot]

0.2 sec charge up

and compared to hel rifle you actually do need to aim for headshots on smalls

double tap chargers etc

[worn knot]

Ok thanks for the tips on r1c1 got it done

But now we are stuck in r1c2 for 3 hours 😂

Any weapon or tools for the whole team ?

[prime musk]

hel rifle

[crystal blaze]

Scattergun, trust

[tardy ingot]

Pls tell me multiple attemps and retrying

You gotta survive 4 alarms. Take tools that help you a lot with those (cfoam/mines can if you save doors well, sentries can do good work too)

Then hel rifle, a scattergun for zone 96 and sawed offs if you rly care

[hardy grotto]

We’re converting them so young now

[ocean lance]

you're stuck on a level?

scattergun sawed off hel rifle

[worn knot]

Attempts not duration 💀

The goddamn spikey sleepers are annoying to stealth kill

They don't die even after getting their head blown off

[grizzled patrol]

you can kill them reliably with a sniper rifle

[ripe hamlet]

real

[grizzled patrol]

so just take 4 snipers

[ripe hamlet]

sniper into small

[prime musk]

their only weakspot is their back, which takes 2x damage

head vs body makes no difference

[worn knot]

Yes we are trying , to hit from the back 🗿

[fathom ice]

😵‍💫

[ripe hamlet]

near full charge with a hammer from the back will insta kill it

[worn knot]

Thanks

I tried with knife

It takes two full charges

[ripe hamlet]

full charge and one tap with a knife

to the back ofc

[fathom ice]

^ if u hit them while sleeping

wake is 2 full charges I think

[ripe hamlet]

you do not want to melee charger

[prime musk]

with good ping and hammer it's fine

[grizzled patrol]

just have 3 players shoving it while the knife player kills it with the light attacks

[fathom ice]

fr

[worn knot]

R1c1 spoiled us with resources

We gotta stop wasting ammo and focus on stealth on this mission

This game is destroying me

[ripe hamlet]

i dont particularly remember r1c2 to be resource tight lvl

[grizzled patrol]

good

i see you are into CBT aswell

[prime musk]

r1c2 isn't very resource tight, but the first 2 zones contain A LOT of smalls so if you shoot them you're starving for a bit

[ripe hamlet]

fair

[worn knot]

The giant's triggeres other during the stealth kill .

[prime musk]

sync enemies with flashlight, and then sync 3 hammer hits on it

[fathom ice]

how do i ccw

[prime musk]

sky

[ripe hamlet]

3 full charge hammer hit on the back kill giant

[prime musk]

ccw is the rotate key that isn't up arrow

[fathom ice]

oops

how do i ccw

[prime musk]

sky i do not remember the default controls

it's like Z or something

[ripe hamlet]

i guess someone needs to link eva's aggro guide vid

[worn knot]

Is spear or hammer better ?

[ripe hamlet]

hammer

you want to be able to run while charging

[fathom ice]

no it's just terrible to leran

[ripe hamlet]

v. useful

[fathom ice]

learn

[worn knot]

The range is amazing tho for spear

[prime musk]

play tetresse

[fathom ice]

what is tetresse

[prime musk]

alternatively vc with me in like
3 hours

[prime musk]

sky i sent the link to you

[fathom ice]

I'm sadly out

[ripe hamlet]

being able to run and dodge is better than range

[fathom ice]

how about in 5

[prime musk]

5 hours or minutes?

hours works

[fathom ice]

hours

[prime musk]

sure

[ripe hamlet]

damn it doesnt embed

well whatever

thats the stealth guide

[tardy ingot]

The range basically doesnt matter is the thing

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t there only 4 interaction where range is good to have and only 1 of those is realistic?

[tardy ingot]

you can probably break it up into a ton if you wanted to

but most just arent a common thing

[fathom ice]

the only thing u get to use ur range is giant melee

[twin shoal]

Best weapons for bots?

[burnt inlet]

Fliers or smth idk

[upbeat epoch]

Burst rifle, Veruta machinegun to preserve ammo. Hel Revolver, Burst cannon to kill

[burnt inlet]

Burst rifle and burst canon but if you take friendly fire it’s gg’s

[twin shoal]

thanks

[runic roost]

I always found having at least one works cuz the people that do play R1c1 is easily prone to leaks, so having that “fuck you no” in someones pocket is hella nice

Also more prone to getting overwhelmed with the people that do play that level

[minor fractal]

You can just use sawed-off or HEL Shotgun for that, tho

and then when shit leaks, you just kill it.

[runic roost]

Defo but ngl I still cant bear the hel shotty reload

Its fair but fuckkkk man time slows down when I see the animation

[minor fractal]

That's where the sawed-off comes in.

[runic roost]

Love it to death but I kinda see the sawed off as a diff kinda tool

Such an ezy weapon but in reactors I also run out of ammo with it quick

My impatient ass

But referring specifically to R1C1 with the new guys especially a team full of em its helped a shit ton with saving waves (hel auto)

[minor fractal]

To each their own, sawed-off does more.

[runic roost]

No doubt

I just feel a tad bit more sluggy with it

Ill def give it more tries tho

[hard nexus]

so you could say its on par with slug shotgun?

[digital mural]

Yes

Slug is better actually

[tough hollow]

just wondering on how to best use a C-foam trip mine?

[ocean spindle]

ddeeeepeends on its use
for bigger enemies, a wall cuz u just freeze

for doors, u place them perpeendicular to it and shooot it when necessary

if u just waanna foam the floor, also try putting it in a wall

cuz it shoots in a line

[timber shoal]

you can use them on doors if you place them on the inside of the keypad, close the door, and shoot the mine

[tough hollow]

alr thanks alot for the answer i get it now

[ocean spindle]

funky wunky

no foam mine emote :[

[sage pulsar]

how do solos in this gaem compare to darktide

[sudden nexus]

grfo is harder

[digital mural]

Darktide is way easier

And well

2 totally different games

[minor fractal]

GTFO is not balanced for solo, idk about Darktide

[hard nexus]

gtfo doesnt scale anyhow with number of players

tbh im not sure if darktide does

either way solo darktide u wont have players get fucked by dogs/trappers or rush and alert monstrosity

[manic nova]

How/where do you enter lobby codes?

[digital mural]

You copy it

A button on the left side of the screen will appear

The game detects the code on the clipboard

[manic nova]

Thank you

[ripe hamlet]

solo in gtfo mean you get your ass continuously kicked until you have like 100 hours and finally learn how to kite and dodge

[runic roost]

Nuclear reactor symbol ahh crosshair

[eternal snow]

What is the most effective combination of weapons in the game in terms of ammunition and damage? (main + special)

[fathom ice]

sawed off scatter / sawed off hel rifle / sawed off burst cannon

boss kill / wave clear / both

[tardy ingot]

that is such a loaded question and a real answer would be super convoluted and mean basically nothing

so skys answer is prob best

[ripe hamlet]

wouldnt hel gun be technically best in wave clear

[fathom ice]

they're are the same

[prime musk]

hel rifle > hel gun
the better ammo of hel gun doesn't matter
hel rifle actually killing on pen and killing at any range is just way to much value way too easily compared to hel gun skill requirement

[grizzled patrol]

Slug Shotgun / Machinegun

High damage per shot of slug and high Ammo of MG

[burnt inlet]

Surely

[ocean spindle]

u will be funny one day

[grizzled patrol]

Funny?

Why would anyone ever find this funny?

[undone raven]

Idk man, if you can hit heads, the better reload and bigger mag makes holds quite a bit more stable and is better for gaming out

[sage pulsar]

hitting heads with a charge shot

in a game where the targets strafe and crawl and stop their naruto run to stare when they want

[undone raven]

Skill issue, no literally

[ocean lance]

sounds like you're skill issuing

ngl

[fathom ice]

play double hel gun

trust

[grizzled patrol]

"when they want" nah thats Just you Not understanding their AI

[safe cradle]

I guess the point is that hitting bodyshots with hel rifle is massively easier than hitting headshots consistently with hel gun.

[safe cradle]

I mean you CAN consistently do it since I've seen plenty of pov videos of cracked people that do

It's just an harsh requirement

I dont know how hel gun would fare if you went for bodyshots instead, not going to lie, simply because I never pick it because I know I won't be able to hit heads much.

[ripe hamlet]

its still good

but youll find that its quite ammo hungry after a particularly long alarm

[tardy ingot]

Still far better than everything else pretty much

it basically is at a bit less than 8 kills/refill without pen that way

Which is 1 below hel rifle

[coral dune]

hel rifle also deals with giants incredibly well, one shots chargers, one shots scouts, and holds its own against mini boss

[undone raven]

True, but vs giants and mini bosses doesn't really matter, unless your team doesn't have a big kill or you are playing solo

Vs chargers or nightmares hel Rifle is better, vs normal smalls hel gun is better

I have ass aim and can still get decent head lines

[tardy ingot]

giants and chargers are just the strikers/shooter matchup diff but without headshots mattering

Hel rifle and gun both are pretty meh into bosses

Scouts are the one noteable difference of what was listed

Hel rifle 1 shotting is still easier and it basically doesnt worry about range issues

[undone raven]

Bc ♥️

[ripe hamlet]

can you still 2 shot scout before they scream

with hel gun i mean

[civic wave]

if you're fast, yes

[ripe hamlet]

nice

[civic wave]

it may also depend on rng

with how long the scout takes to go off

[prime musk]

a bad roll makes it impossible on host

but most rolls it works with

[brazen marten]

is the precision rifle worth taking for r2e1

[fathom ice]

no

pdw if anything prob

but shadows are really a problem in one section, just bring bio and ure gucci

[brazen marten]

ok

[uneven kiln]

it’s worth noting different weapons also have different strength flashlights to make seeing them easier if you lack an LRF; then glowsticks at all, bright rooms, and multiple allies shining their flashlights on a Shadow make them harder to see

[worn knot]

R1C2 done guys , now R1D1 awaits 🫡

[sudden nexus]

MUSHROOM

[undone raven]

Unfortunately you have to play r2 after that, which sucks until d2

[tardy ingot]

honestly disagree
B3, C1 sure tho

[undone raven]

B3 is kinda peak

[sudden nexus]

idk i think r2b4 is pretty peak 🥰

[ocean lance]

i think

[tardy ingot]

B3s most interesting things is that its the uplink intro (snooze objective type)
and that it has 2 alarms that use the same room "layout"

[ocean lance]

r2a1 is pretty cool

[sudden nexus]

stop

[ocean lance]

if you play sniper you get to miss

scout

[sudden nexus]

NOOOO

would never

[undone raven]

R2b1 is kinda fun too

I get to game out vs giants

[tardy ingot]

honestly the worst thing about R2A1 and R2B1?

super long extracts

why the fuck does R2A1 have the longest extract in the game

[sudden nexus]

how long is it

[ocean lance]

50 years

[tardy ingot]

iirc like 1 min 40 seconds

[digital mural]

Because it's a really hard level

[uneven kiln]

Kenny’s spreadsheet has it at 100s yep

[sudden nexus]

zamn

[tardy ingot]

R2 has a ton of very long (unnecessarily so) extracts

R2B2 is the only short one iirc

[civic wave]

you have like 3 teammates who can stand in the scan to speed it up dude it's not that deep

(yes, i know)

[uneven kiln]

R2D1 clocks in at 88s tied with R4E1 as the longest extract with a full team after R2A1

[sudden nexus]

isnt r2e1 short

[uneven kiln]

40s regardless of player count

[sudden nexus]

how long is b2?

[uneven kiln]

13.2s

[ocean spindle]

hits the hitbox of the door !!

I HATE THAT INVIS WALL

[ocean spindle]

b4?

[tardy ingot]

not quite fast iirc

[ocean spindle]

fast-ishh

enough for u to see no enemiees

[mellow palm]

is anyone else having having trouble joining lobbyies rn? "Waiting for master"?

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

Someones connection is dead or dying

[mellow palm]

oh okay, thank you

[brazen marten]

i was wondering why my aim was so shit and had no idea i had vsync on for the 70 hrs ive played this game am i cooked

[burnt inlet]

FPS doesnt matter for this game

chagne ur FOV

[ripe hamlet]

lets see if youd still be able to say that when your fps is capped at 20

[burnt inlet]

vsync caps at monitors refresh rate anyways

[ripe hamlet]

this is not vsync cap this is proverty cap

[burnt inlet]

frfr

[coral dune]

is the max stamina yellow health bar purely for visuals?

[ocean spindle]

yep!

its a 'urhearts going 180' warnin

but u dont lose hp nor anything

[inland oasis]

@ocean spindle

[ripe hamlet]

Who was it that spread the misinfo that using up your stamina will make you lose health

[inland oasis]

howd u get ambassing role

[ocean spindle]

i i am here

the red one?

i did a gtfo rap

[inland oasis]

no

u dont have it

[inland oasis]

like this penis

[ocean spindle]

just newies when they see yellow

[ocean spindle]

a

[inland oasis]

the orange one

[fathom ice]

nah u straight up die on max stam

my bad

[ocean spindle]

.t ambassador

[uneven gulch]

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[inland oasis]

thx

[twin shoal]

How to hide UI to take a screenshot in the game?

[civic wave]

go into display settings and turn each element of the hud off

[twin shoal]

thanks

[sudden nexus]

or mods

[twin shoal]

Yeah I use the CConslole or whatever it was called

I dont know the bind tho

[sudden nexus]

archive also has an option

[twin shoal]

I just switch weapons fast and take a ss lmao

works? works

[ocean spindle]

thheres a hud opacity slideer

[undone raven]

wheres the maps that show the key numbers on the map

[ocean spindle]

the what

[undone raven]

like when you are logging keys

it gives you a number

and there is a map that shows you which box is which number

im wondering where to find those

[fathom ice]

eva steam guide

[tardy ingot]

speedrun.com
speedrun gtfo discord

both of them link to the steam guide I made for it

[burnt inlet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3166671266, this is the logger i use: https://github.com/Tgb03/Logger/releases/tag/2.1.19

[coral dune]

what is the range of a spitter?

[burnt inlet]

10 meters

[ocean spindle]

[[Spitter]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Spitter

[ocean spindle]

it ddoesn't say 🔥

[ocean spindle]

but a spitter is about 2 meters

2 3

[worn knot]

Any tips and weapons for r1d1 ?

[ocean spindle]

for tools, 3 sentries (burst or sniper is fine), thats the important part (and a bio obv)
for weapons well- just longer ranges, the leevels huge corridors so burst rifle, dmr, hel rifle, hel gun, hel revo...

[sudden nexus]

hel revo hel rife

[ocean spindle]

u can naturally use shorteer ranges but it usually means u need a longer range counterpart to balance it and deal with eenemies from afar, or hav other people deal with them and u focus on what comees near- idk its hard to recommend guuns when its just

a choice

the strat for d1 i think its way more important

[brazen marten]

how do you deal with fog in r4b2

[tardy ingot]

dont plug cells

until the end

do 1 alarm in fog (sentries will carry pretty easily) thats forced on the way to overload

[brazen marten]

ok

trying to solo this level w bots is a nightmare

[burnt inlet]

You can use the ”pick up objective” command so they pick up cells in rooms

But yes generally every error alarm level sucks with bots

[brazen marten]

i heard they are bugged with picking up objects

[digital mural]

Not really

If the object is in a weird spot you'll know it

Bots will go where the objective is but not pick it up

If it isn't they will bring it to you

[ocean spindle]

if enemies glow they standd still

[uneven kiln]

bots don't pick up objective items if there are enemies alerted to players (so error alarms are bad for this)

and if they do they drop them immediately

[ocean spindle]

unless is the turbine andd they pick it up beforee the error

[uneven kiln]

there's no turbine for R4B2 sadly

[ocean spindle]

oh well yes but in general i mean

[brazen marten]

oh yea thats what i meant when i said they are bugged

mb should have been more specific

but somebody told me theyre bugged during error alarms for reasons like that so it makes it lil more difficult

[burnt inlet]

Finding it is half the challenge

[brazen marten]

i keep dying in the overload probs cause i didnt know the fog rises when you put in the cells

[burnt inlet]

:3

Opposite R2D1

[brazen marten]

but ive been doing the secondary first which i think is how youre supposed to but it starts the error alarm right away

[burnt inlet]

No

[brazen marten]

i absolutely fucking hate that level

[brazen marten]

dont do it first?

[burnt inlet]

Overload first

[brazen marten]

oh

[fathom ice]

you have to do secondary first

[burnt inlet]

Sky help this guy frfr

[fathom ice]

are you high

[brazen marten]

idk i kinda just yolo it and try to figure it out

thats what i figured bcz the secondary sector has 2 bulkhead keys in it

[burnt inlet]

Am I thinking of wrong level?

[fathom ice]

r4b2

[burnt inlet]

Oh yea mb do it first

[fathom ice]

is the level

[brazen marten]

ok good to know i did smth right lol

[fathom ice]

💀

[burnt inlet]

Thought it was the one with like term codes

[brazen marten]

that room with like 3 scouts is brutal

[burnt inlet]

You have to find

[brazen marten]

no generator cluster

[burnt inlet]

It has a gen cluster overload

[brazen marten]

oh

[burnt inlet]

Mb team

Think it might’ve been R5

[fathom ice]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[keen seal]

ain't gen cluster just main

[brazen marten]

yes

[fathom ice]

it might be r5a3

[keen seal]

then osip overload or whatever