gtfo-related-questions

[fathom ice]

on extract

[prime musk]

omg that's me

[fathom ice]

big

[grizzled patrol]

Ping delay? Unreal

[prime musk]

sky
r4d2 pe duo speeds

it'll be a banger trust

[fathom ice]

zed i will kill you

[grizzled patrol]

Just use the global Sounds when on the map

[fathom ice]

if u do 6 labs for me

sure

[prime musk]

big

[fathom ice]

zed can u abuse chatgpt for me

[prime musk]

man i don't even have a chatgpt account or whatever it is called

[fathom ice]

u don't need one

[prime musk]

fine

dms

[digital ember]

what is overflow?

[soft crater]

But does Zed BongoCat

[fathom ice]

no

[prime musk]

my bad give my 5 minutes

[grizzled patrol]

In what context?

[digital ember]

vc channels

[digital ember]

can hammer oneshot scouts?

[whole summit]

yes in head

[grizzled patrol]

the old group of 4 broke, and a replacement while it was still broke we got the overflow one

[digital mural]

Hammer and spear can one shot with only the head

Knife and bat need back of the head

[grizzled patrol]

Bat deals secret tripple damage bonus to the kneycaps

source trust me bro

[burnt inlet]

I’d rather do bite the curb type shit ngl

[grizzled patrol]

yep words

[brazen marten]

for the solo b tier with only pistols, what tool should i use?

[ocean lance]

burst sentry

[ocean spindle]

im one for minees

[prime musk]

if just class 2 it's mines, otherwise sentry is the way

[grizzled patrol]

burst pistol

[burnt inlet]

Hel rifle

[brazen marten]

i was gonna try it, lots of good opportunities to pull rooms and not have to deal with tons of enemies

[ocean spindle]

i useed them in the giant filled zone and the class II teehee

[brazen marten]

yea i have no idea what to do for the alarm

idk how to solo alarms

[ocean spindle]

so most people tend to just run to it but thats wrong, u make em spawn super super close to u
the strat is more opening the free door, clearin it and then going for the II; that way they spawn way farther and u also get a door to mine

the rest is shooting practice- which is thee point ksmdkm

u can also put some mines along the stairs but they will probs just kill one enemy per mine

[brazen marten]

ok

i normally go for the normal bioscan first anyways

[ocean spindle]

if u wanna practice guns more i guess u can wake up a room and try shooting it up?

or doing r1c1 with bots lol

[brazen marten]

im just trying to do this chalelnge then im going back to r4a2

ima give it the rest of the night to attempt this

if not ill move on

[cinder lance]

how is slug shotgun? i heard from a friend that it can one shot the trash mobs and that sounds awesome, but it seems limited by ammo to be a horde clearer, at least in similar aspects to dmr

[prime musk]

slug is often underrated, but it's pretty ok

it does oneshot strikers anywhere given close range, but needs headshot on shooters and headshot on strikers if they're a bit away

[fathom ice]

play sawed off

[prime musk]

the two mindsets

[cinder lance]

i unfortunately dont know sawed off shotgun much to know a verdict 😂

[prime musk]

sawed off is quite easily the strongest main weapon

[fathom ice]

its better slug

[cinder lance]

i assume it's a bit, but idk how it is. not sure if there's a good map to just test firing guns on sleepers

[prime musk]

sawed off oneshots all smalls, including chargers

4 shot on giants

[cinder lance]

there's also this spreadsheet i got from a friend, tho it doesnt seem to include slug shotgun, and not sure what else it could be missing

[prime musk]

it likely outdated ie is a pre-r8 sheet

[cinder lance]

yeah

[cinder lance]

interesting

it's actually way better than i thought. i thought it was gonna be bottom of the barrel lol

[prime musk]

like it cannot be understated how good sawed off is

[cinder lance]

is it like the scattergun of main weapons?

[prime musk]

yeah

[cinder lance]

lol

i thought hel revolver was the equivalent

i use that when im getting more serious, though i keep finding myself in bad spots to get cleave attacks

[prime musk]

every day i learn a new word someone uses for pierce/penetration

hel revo is a very good choice in virtually every situation

just that there happens to be another gun that is better

[cinder lance]

if it helps i usually never hear pierce 😏

intriguing to learn all of this though. i'm usually dmr cuz i liked one popping shooters and leaving strikers really low (or kill with boosters), but slug shotgun being semi-reverse of breakpoints sounds funny

and then there's sawed off
is there anything slug shotgun has that trumps sawed?

[digital mural]

No

Slug is worse in every aspect

Except I guess ammo but it doesn't matter anyways

[prime musk]

it has a bigger mag size and more reliable killing of shooters at range, as well as having a better reload given you reload cancel well.

[digital mural]

Lol

Shooters

[cinder lance]

i booted up r1a1 and i did notice at like medium range it takes a bit to kill a shooter, tho that's kinda given i think

[prime musk]

that said slug just gets 0.7 less shots per ammo and the oneshot is less reliable on smalls, and has worse breakpoints into all non-small targets meaning it generally suffers in ammo a lot comparatively

[cinder lance]

hmm, i wonder if this would conflict with how i set up my special weapon. i usually run burst cannon to giant slay with my dmr. i used to use scattergun, but using that with dmr felt weird
heard scattergun had good horde clear too, but it's been a while and i remember the ammo being low 🤔

[prime musk]

scatter ammo is enormous if you use it well

you can damage split and get 2+ strikers per shot at which point it becomes quite efficient at killing smalls (though not compared to the absolute top tier waveclear guns)

[cinder lance]

damage split? as in you weaken them with another firearm or a teammate and then blast 'em?

[prime musk]

no, just hitting several enemies with one shot

[cinder lance]

ah gotcha

[prime musk]

scatter easily has enough raw damage that killing 2+ is free, if they are in the blast cone

[cinder lance]

cool beans

so if i run sawed off shotgun, or slug shotgun (seems more fitting for the name of balance rn), would it alone be enough to upkeep with a horde? or is it supposed to be used on the tougher guys like chargers and last effort for giants?

[prime musk]

sawed off is enough to keep up with anything

slug keeps up with hordes of smalls if you don't miss and shoot aggressively

[fathom ice]

slug users keep winning

[cinder lance]

(sorry been tabbing in and out) not sure if i like the idea of swapping off more dedicated punchy weapons for a hybrid weapon and then probably use a machinegun to better up ammo econ on hordes

[prime musk]

ouch

mg is

very not good

at ammo economy

[fathom ice]

tabbing out

[prime musk]

if you're looking for efficiency into smalls, revo or hel gun or hel rifle
if you want efficiency into chargers, hel gun or hel rifle
if you want efficiency into bigs, burst cannon (if ranged) or scatter (if close)

[fathom ice]

what about my 4 giant pen

zed....

[prime musk]

my bad

[cinder lance]

oh really? thought it was a powerhouse for horde clearing
oh right. ammo. it could be strong but has sucky ammo. noted 🗒️

[prime musk]

(it's weak and has sucky ammo)

[cinder lance]

lol

[prime musk]

peak realistic efficiency, if you hit every shot (but no headshots to compensate, since you are missing shots), is 13 kills per refill

revo is 18 small kills per refill

hel gun is at least 15, with any amount of pen it can easily go above 20

hel rifle is 9, but every pen adds 1 and hitting pen half of the shots beats peak mg

(and peak mg is incredibly hard to hit compared to any of these other numbers)

[burnt inlet]

What’s peak sawed off?

[prime musk]

16.6 kills per ammo (you hit the legendary sawed off double kill with every shot)

[cinder lance]

damn my mind is being blown with info. do you happen to have any info cards about weps? i dont wanna be buggin' with questionaries

[prime musk]

realistic is 8.3

[fathom ice]

slot machine

[burnt inlet]

Holy shit lmao

[prime musk]

(https://gtfo.wiki.gg/)

[burnt inlet]

I get like 1 on a good day

[cinder lance]

aw hell yeah

we moved out from fandom wiki

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[prime musk]

i have hit a few double kills with sawed off, but they're really really rare

[burnt inlet]

One could imagine

[prime musk]

like, i have hit more double kills with knife than i have with sawed off

[fathom ice]

idk team I hit double sawed off every time

trust

[prime musk]

i believe in sky

this is why sky waveclears in our duos

[burnt inlet]

Sky could one tap a giant with sawed off

[fathom ice]

except I don't

😔

[burnt inlet]

And codehunts solo in R4E1 reactor

[prime musk]

this is the point

[burnt inlet]

I wanna run R6C1 but cba with people who can’t read (insert copium here)😔

[fathom ice]

how bad

[burnt inlet]

People whose never opened the level

Oh you meant like that nvm

Uhhh

[prime musk]

you do in r7e1 ig
the only reason you don't take codes i think is because i fucking hate triple tank thing and don't like the hold at all (read: i have never in my life even been part of a non solo hold of reactor)

[burnt inlet]

Willing to skip eeping

[fathom ice]

w4 is a bit spicy

rest is kinda free

[prime musk]

yeah that's also a big turnoff from even trying

[fathom ice]

I like to go in cuz I do risky shit for time save

but it works out

[burnt inlet]

3 tanks? Weak try 7 in rundown X (I might’ve spawned some)

[prime musk]

he games out

[fathom ice]

listen

I pull A and B for 4e1 codes

i'm a chad

[prime musk]

ngl i have never had issues with leaks from code hunt from you so i have 0 complaints

[fathom ice]

yea cuz I get 4 giants from A

kek

well 4 is exag 2 prob

[prime musk]

6 giants in zone

either 4+2 or 2+4

so could be 4 from A

[fathom ice]

big

[burnt inlet]

I only have one complaint, sky is so quick and I’m so dumb we deal with hybrids for 2 waves👉👈

[fathom ice]

no i'm slow

[prime musk]

team

[fathom ice]

actually

[prime musk]

no one is slow at solo code hunt in r4e1 anymore because the bar is set at 5 cycling code 6 these days

[fathom ice]

man I 2 cycle code 6

[burnt inlet]

We uhh, cycled it a bit too fast

[fathom ice]

wtf this reactor is ass

reactor is 15 minutes WHAT

wait it's terrible

[prime musk]

this is your calling

r4e1 duo speeds tomorrow

[fathom ice]

I thought

It's like 11 minutes

or something

but it's so bad actually

[prime musk]

it's not 11 minutes sky

[fathom ice]

my bad 😔

it shoud be like what

1 cycle 1 cycle 1 cycle 3 cycle 4 cycle 1 cycle

[prime musk]

i mean just group together code 3 4 and 5

[fathom ice]

wait how many cycles did I take

one sec

[prime musk]

man it's bad

im opening gtfo to zed r4e1

[sturdy glen]

its time to play arc complex zed

[prime musk]

it might be time

when are you finishing it

[sturdy glen]

you can play r4e1 on arc complex trust

[prime musk]

when i finish r4e1 ill do the other r4e1 and then the third r4e1 trust

[fathom ice]

1 1 3 2 3 2

man i don't get it

how do i spend 3 cycles on code 3

like it's insane lmao

[prime musk]

eh

roll bad term, forced to be slow through A

i can see it

[fathom ice]

and then I 2 cycle 4

like

rng carried man

[prime musk]

avg speedrun

[prime musk]

this game fucking sucks
i rolled 6 close spawns on 2nd S in a row

[prime musk]

one far spawn and 4 close spawns, things are improving

[fathom ice]

take pills

[undone raven]

gulp

[digital ember]

the most difficult level?

[tardy ingot]

R8E2

why?

[plucky ice]

What's the setup for R1D1 I'm finding myself running out of supplies by the third alarm and getting overrun

[grizzled patrol]

R8F1. Two Teams playing R8E1 and R8E2 at the Same time, If one Team wipes the Run is over

[hard nexus]

3 sentry, but if u are struggling go zone 75 and 76 for resources after second alarm is done

[plucky ice]

I was trying with 2 sniper 1 burst sentry

[hard nexus]

3 burst

[plucky ice]

I see

[hard nexus]

sniper is trash

[plucky ice]

Trash?? It seems pretty ammo efficient no?

[hard nexus]

idk it does fuck all

[runic roost]

It shoots when it feels like shooting

[hard nexus]

unironically u will see more use out of shotgun sentry than sniper

but both are shit

[runic roost]

Shotgun with 180% cpu speed

[hard nexus]

ive done 2d2 with shotgun sentry its actually a ok

but only if u feel like a meme run

defending in spawn and shit

[runic roost]

Melee only when

[hard nexus]

never

[runic roost]

How bout 3a3 melee

[hard nexus]

nah

if i wanna play melee i play darktide

[runic roost]

Based

[hard nexus]

melee in this game is not that great

[runic roost]

E2 melee only

Solo

[hard nexus]

enjoyable melee only is 2c2

and hehe 7c3

[frail heart]

Dawg are you on something????

[hard nexus]

nicotine, why

[frail heart]

Sniper sentry is very good if it has long sight lines and with bio pings

[hard nexus]

u dont need sniper sentry on 1d1 brother

[frail heart]

It’s a fine sentry on that level

[hard nexus]

maybe take just 1 not 2

[frail heart]

Especially because the waves have a lot of giants

[hard nexus]

a lot

just kill them with your guns bruh

[plucky ice]

Haha, it's a good sentry sir

I'll try 3 burst tonight

[runic roost]

1 sniper 2 burst will have way better results imo on that level

[tardy ingot]

this is absolutely wrong @plucky ice

Sniper sentry does need very good placement and bio support tho, but if it does have that it pops off (and since giants/hybrids spawn a bunch in r1d1 alarms (especially 2nd and 3rd) it can do a lot there. I wouldnt pick more than 1. And even 1 isnt necessary, but its not a troll pick.

and definetly 10 times better than shotgun sentry lol

[hard nexus]

wouldnt pick it

nuff said

[tardy ingot]

sniper sentry with bio is also pretty much as good if not better into smalls than burst

a anti big gun is worse than a wave clear option into smalls, and a wave clear option isnt great econ wise into bigs

wouldnt pick more than 1...

read

lol

[hard nexus]

and even 1 isnt necessary

which is what ive been saying

[tardy ingot]

nothing is necessary

[hard nexus]

take 3 burst and call it

[tardy ingot]

you can run the level without tools

you can run the levels without guns

sniper sentry is very playable. And if placed correctly a strong pick to have to deal with the giants effectively

[hard nexus]

at least its not hel auto

[runic roost]

Hel auto clutches sometimes

[hard nexus]

hel auto goesss brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

3 auto sentries goes brrrr^3

[runic roost]

Ever had bio shotgun sentry at 200% speed

[hard nexus]

the sound is crazy

[runic roost]

Hell shotgun auto sentry

[plucky ice]

We liked HEL sentry on r1c2 for the chargers

[runic roost]

Interesting

[frail heart]

Everyone shitting on hel auto when it’s a good sentry

[tardy ingot]

Someone who doesnt know how hel auto works

[hard nexus]

uh huh

[tardy ingot]

Burst is always useable but falls off into chargers and above

Sniper needs good sight lines and bio but pops off against chargers and above

Hel auto can hold and melt alarm waves (struggle a bit more the tankier the targets). Its basically a stopgap and not efficient

Shotgun sentry lol

[hard nexus]

shotgun sentry is lol

but there was a guy who brought it to 2d2 despite my seethe

and we won

[tardy ingot]

and?

I have won r3d1 doing absolutely nothing

[hard nexus]

ok bro

how many hrs u have in gtfo

to average gtfo enjoyer and noobs who keep buying the game for 20 bucks burst sentry is best choice

[plucky ice]

Average GTFO noob is not in here asking for reasoned loadouts to tackle specific alarm waves so I appreciate the nuance to each recommendation

[hard nexus]

oh yea this is the first time this is happening i forgor

[plucky ice]

you know no one is forcing you to give the advice bro like if you don't want to get into it you can just not? But saying sniper sentry is worse than shotgun is not a noob friendly simplification it's just wrong

[hard nexus]

i gave u the advice

take 3 burst

[plucky ice]

I even said I would try 3 burst tonight

[hard nexus]

yea the rest was just discourse on opinions in everyones experience

i dont see whats wrong

u may agree or disagree with whoever

in the end of the day u will try out all sentries and form your own

as much as eva and frosty want to advocate for my inexperience average lobby brings burst sentry

[little pilot]

while yes burst sentry can be used in any level you can not argue it is the best in every situation

especially when sniper is just clearly better in multiple levels

multiple situations

and this also applies for average lobby

[hard nexus]

ok sure maybe not every situation

but r1d1

cmon man

[little pilot]

why not

[fathom ice]

u get 3 giants a wave

[little pilot]

i have seen groups have issues with giants & hybrids

[hard nexus]

insert another eva snip like u can just melee only

[digital mural]

4 shotgun sentries

[little pilot]

triple sniper sentry goes hard

[fathom ice]

like saying sniper sentry is bad there is crazy

[little pilot]

like literally: if u have issues with giants and hybrids, invalidate the alarms by picking tools that counter them hard

[hard nexus]

they started topic with having trouble with 2 sniper sentries in loadout

[little pilot]

if u have issues with smalls, pick hel autos so smalls just get melted. Tho it does require proper placement which u probably wont see in average lobby

[hard nexus]

and there are way more smols than bigs coming in

[fathom ice]

that is not a tool pick issue

ur burst cleans up most of the wave for u

and +1 sniper sentry cleans up ur giants

[little pilot]

generally pick tools that help patch ur team's issues

[plucky ice]

Tbh I think it could just be a sentry placement issue

And it's solo with bots and my aim is ass

[little pilot]

if smalls are the issues: burst or hel autos. (burst for r1d1 since easier to play and i assume the knowledge isn't there for hel auto)

[tardy ingot]

sniper sentry isnt bad against smalls either

its just a bad take

R1D1 has alarms with long and open sight lines

It spawns a bunch of giants per wave

recomming 3 burst and a bio = fine

Saying sniper sentry is shit = awful take

[sick mauve]

you can say you dislike it

[burnt inlet]

Id pick two shotguns and a cfoam🐟

[hard nexus]

cfoam for reactor terminal of course

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[craggy pier]

does the game run on a gtx 1080ti ? for some reasons i cant load any internet pages talking abt the minimum requirements of the game ._.

[burnt inlet]

This game runs on a toaster

For most levels

Some levels don’t discriminate on performance

[craggy pier]

ok ty :3

[safe cradle]

Sniper sentry is fantastic for R1D1

Only downside I see towards suggesting that is that newbies are going to just slap all sentries at the same place and call it a day

Which is less harmful for Burst than it is for Sniper IMHO

[burnt inlet]

Me when I slap all sentries in each other

🎀

[safe cradle]

So basically, this ^

Especially for reactors that tend to have long bridges with long sights

[tardy ingot]

and they wont ping for it (well)

honestly best strat is likely having bio push up and help shoot with the sentries

[safe cradle]

Yeah, for some combinations in R1D1 I barely have to shoot with 2 burst+1 sniper

They basically clear the damn waves for me save for the occasional hybrid/giant

and even then sniper has a good chance of deleting the issue

On that topic another thing I've seen is newbies overvaluing foam+mines for certain maps

Especially most of the non-hard uplinks you can just shoot with a sentry or two and be fine

I'm not going to go into the calculations of wether it's more efficient to mine+ permafoam or use sentries+funnel+shooting somewhat

But the second option is just as viable

Yet I've seen people scared at not taking foam for R2C1 or R2B3

[fathom ice]

people who play foam don't want to play the game

trust

[tardy ingot]

funnelling is usually harder to do in cases where theres multi sided spawns or where shooting is not that safe (or enemies spawn too close)

foam is an absolutely valid way to play the game

shooting isnt the whole game

strategy, melee/stealth is too

[safe cradle]

I'm not saying it ain't valid just that it's not THE only option

[tardy ingot]

whether smth is more interesting overall (or for you specifically), thats smth else

[tardy ingot]

oh yeye dw I got that

[safe cradle]

I recently did an R2E1 where they wanted to ladderfoam

[tardy ingot]

R2B3 foam is kinda weird (we only use it to shut out the enemies long enough for uplink to finish, not even mining) and R2C1 doesnt even have foam

[safe cradle]

out of the novelty of having never seen it in action

and it really is like doorbugging with a timer

[plucky ice]

Foam good on alarms with basically one door so you can just keep it held closed until the alarm is over? Does that work?

[safe cradle]

Therefore I just quit now if they wanna ladderfoam

[plucky ice]

We usually bring mines but not foam

[safe cradle]

yeah

you can keep foaming a door as the blobs disappear

to keep it closed

enemies reach cap so they dont endlessly spawn

[plucky ice]

When we tried it before we just let the wave stack up and then let them hit the mines, but I guess it makes sense to just keep the door closed forever

[safe cradle]

then 1 single mine goes boom and it has a decent chance of killing almost everything

[plucky ice]

Seems like it would need a lot of tool refills

[ripe hamlet]

perma foaming is based and cool

you just completely trivialize an alarm

worth every tool use

[safe cradle]

Yeah but picture two scenarios: 1- There's very bad shit behind that door like ||nightmares||. 2- It's the last alarm of the map.

[runic roost]

3 hel autos is a very bad alternative but a very cool one

[ripe hamlet]

also r1d1 is a running skill check

the alarm is pretty funny if you keep running around the room going for scans

[runic roost]

Actual monkey obstacle course in there

[ripe hamlet]

real

[plucky ice]

Am I supposed to not go for scans?

Keep in mind playing with bots who won't go for scans

[ripe hamlet]

you need to keep being on the run

the room is huge

[plucky ice]

Yeah I'm basically not even looking at the enemies

[ripe hamlet]

you should be running away then shoot when you gain distance

[ripe hamlet]

i play true duo (no bots) only and beat hte lvl that way

just one bio and one burst

[vital compass]

is the garage door cheese still in? or was it patched?

[burnt inlet]

Doorbugging? Very much still in

[vital compass]

alr thx

what melle should i use for it?

melee*

[sick mauve]

door bugger 🫵
boo boo. shame on you

[burnt inlet]

If ur not speeding don’t do it

Ruins every level

[vital compass]

ik

its not me who wants to do it

[burnt inlet]

Literally I could beat every level solo with it and I’ve only beaten R1

[grizzled patrol]

even if you are speeding it dont do it. lawless is cringe

[burnt inlet]

Title: 18 second speedrun

Looks inside: 7 min vid

[tardy ingot]

(I couldve just posted my pov, wouldve made for a weird video)

On that note
We dont even door bug in it

[burnt inlet]

Yea was joking at the bugs in this game lol

Also quick question the scatter client tumor situation is it the same with all shotguns but only scatter it’s like noticeable?

[fathom ice]

hel shotgun

sawed off

[minor fractal]

It matters on all shotguns, really.

Pump is a 5-shot on mom iirc for client

[topaz anvil]

Holy moly

[burnt inlet]

Goddamn

[minor fractal]

No, that's not true, but it's noticeably better.

[topaz anvil]

Instead of spawning 7 tanks, you should hop on rs with me

[minor fractal]

Not needing to hunt every single tumor is just good.

[tardy ingot]

Iirc its 7 vs 8 shot for mom

Not having to hunt for tumors is a lot more comfortable tho

[minor fractal]

It'd be more noticeable on choke, because you can dump extra shots into tumors in addition to always doing full damage.

[burnt inlet]

Currently working smh

[uneven kiln]

36 is 30

[gray blaze]

For how long does the C-Foam used on the floor/ladders remain active (does not disappear/retains its ability to freeze enemies)? Can't find it on the wiki, maybe I'm blind.

[ocean spindle]

foam is in surfaces for 5 mins excluding doorrs

[[C-Foam]] is it rlly not in there

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/C-Foam

[ocean spindle]

holy shit

lemme fix that

thank u

[gray blaze]

thank you!

[opal rose]

Heya im new to the game and this server. In this channel i can ask something like what weapons are the good or what team compositions are good to play?

[ocean spindle]

this :3

what guns do u use rn?

to see what u like

[opal rose]

Rn me and my squad are on r1c1 i think the reactor one and we mostly use ammo effiecient (im using the hel revolver which i really like) weapons and one scattergun. but on future missions i plan on using the high caliber pistol or the hellgun more but i dont know what primary i would even play with it.

so i like hell revolver and high caliber pistol but i feel like i have to decide what to use of these two

[ocean spindle]

ok so far ur saying aall good guns, they are all pretty based
u dont need to separate hel revo out of high cal cuz high cal is just about thee every-weapon, all guns that are on that 30 dmg ballpark are all super flexible and function well wiith about anything

but u could try other options for main such as sawed off- which is also 30 dmg, carbine is just a flexible all rounder, and maybe for more range DMR (which is about hel revo) or burst rifle (which is about carbine but, a bit diff on execution)

[opal rose]

i do not like the carbine

its four burst feels meh

[ocean spindle]

D:

[opal rose]

I know its good but

[ocean spindle]

i mean its k seeen lot of people dislike carbine one of those being me

theres options

[opal rose]

what did u mean with seperate?

[ocean spindle]

so u say "i feel like i have to decide what to use of these two"
so like not have em both, separate them

but u can havee both

(just reload cancel hel revo)

[opal rose]

is reload cancel in this game just putting the gun away at the end of animation or wha?

[burnt inlet]

What’s ammo efficient in your mind?

[opal rose]

uhhm i hel revo and i think i used the heavy smg (the first or second of the special weapons)

[ocean spindle]

yes :]
and then returning to it, most people do reload + C + number (2 or 3)

[ocean spindle]

heavy assault rifle

[opal rose]

yes

[opal rose]

so either use hel or high call cause they serve the same purpose?

[ocean spindle]

'ammo eff' is a bit of a myth in this game cuz most guns dont have less or more ammo, but ratheer they all have about the ammo that they need to have about the same amount of kills per refill
excepting, precisely, some like HAR whiich have pretty low ammo

[ocean spindle]

no, use em both if u want

high cal is super flexible, works with anything

[opal rose]

thats great to know!

[burnt inlet]

I meant what is the definition of ammo efficient

[opal rose]

uhh a weapon that does the most kills with the least bullets used

i think

[burnt inlet]

Nop

[opal rose]

then explain to me please

[burnt inlet]

Slendo mid match plz

[ocean spindle]

dies

[burnt inlet]

Ok nvm uhhh so Bacisly it’s kills per refill

Not per bullet

[ocean spindle]

i explained it >:[

[burnt inlet]

Did you?

[ocean spindle]

a

[burnt inlet]

Idk I was uhh

Mid match

[ocean spindle]

well kinda

ammo is about the onee stat im less familiar with ngl

ii know which guns are good and bad

[opal rose]

yeah i saw that! but then moth came up and idk :(

[ocean spindle]

but not the whole paragraph

[ocean spindle]

he a goober it ok

[burnt inlet]

Mb😔

[ocean spindle]

:3

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

:3

[opal rose]

ALL GOOD xD

[ocean spindle]

ammo is complicated in this game

weell eeverything is

but ammo is hard

cuz its lots of math

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[opal rose]

i was about to say what isnt..

[ocean spindle]

lets hear it lemme prove u wrong >:]

[burnt inlet]

But scatter is good (depends what you use it for tbh but generally it’s good) if you wanna try a new primary sawed off is good (like slendo said)

Snow quick question how do you use scatter?

[opal rose]

good question

i dont

but

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[ocean spindle]

wha

[opal rose]

i would go up to the big enemies and shoot em close up

cause bullets spread and go boom

[ocean spindle]

gaming

its also good for clusters

lot of peellet for lot of enemy

[opal rose]

so ad clear?

[ocean spindle]

yeep

[burnt inlet]

Ok so snow for the strikers and shooters (small enemies) generally scatter is mid when it’s killing 1 of them, good when 2 of them, great when 3 and insane at 4 (assuming ur one shooting them). For giants just run up and shoot, same with hybrids

[ocean spindle]

as long as its many

[opal rose]

soooo

shoot small ones only if there are multiple

[burnt inlet]

^ to extend on this if you deal dmg to like 10 smalls but don’t kill any it’s still great, depends tbh

[burnt inlet]

Yes (or if you’re in a pinch and can’t take one hit)

[opal rose]

and big ones go close up and boom

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[opal rose]

okay

now the worst question ever

[ocean spindle]

:D

[opal rose]

is there a loadout that i could theoretically use for almost every level

[burnt inlet]

Yesn’t

[ocean spindle]

uh hel revo scaattergun WUHH

jk

[opal rose]

except the reactor bs

[opal rose]

i am gonna do that cause hell yeah that sounds fun

[burnt inlet]

Sawed off scatter/hel rifle bio hammer is good when ur 4 people

[ocean spindle]

i mean theres excepionally flexible weaponry, but if u can like adapt its great too

[prime musk]

does framerate limiting affect door breaking

[ocean spindle]

scattergun id sday its good forr lots of C D and E tiers, but for A or B something lighter can be useful

[burnt inlet]

But depends what ur strengths and weaknesses are

[opal rose]

what????

[ocean spindle]

id saay Hel gun or HEL rifle are more flexible, and sawed off is flexible always- along with most mains

[burnt inlet]

Me when R8A2 :3

[opal rose]

ahhhh

[ocean spindle]

scattergun is fine idk its beeen a while

[opal rose]

the levels

[gray blaze]

I think you guys might wanna tell Snow about damage falloff as well, unless he already knows about it

[ocean spindle]

yes :D

[gray blaze]

One of the most obscure and non-intuitive mechanics

[burnt inlet]

Yes it’s needed

[ocean spindle]

i mean "obscure" gun saays short range

u use it close

also hi gore

[burnt inlet]

Me when I shoot a striker 3 km away with a scatter :3

[gray blaze]

I used to think it's just spread

[opal rose]

I love this community already :3

[ocean spindle]

wuh

[gray blaze]

And thought that damage is kinda randomized, like a gun let's say deals 5-8 damage per bullet

[ocean spindle]

wuh wtf

[burnt inlet]

Average GTFO misinfo tbh

[gray blaze]

so if I fail to oneshot an enemy thought I usually do I thought it's because the gun dealt less damage purely because of range of randomized damage

[opal rose]

okay since im new to the game is there anything groundbraking basic knowledge u absolute pros can tell me? :3

[ocean spindle]

dont die :3

[gray blaze]

I mean maybe I'm jsut dumb but in the first ~50 hours that's what I believed based on my own experience

[ocean spindle]

staay flexible i guess

[opal rose]

crazy..

[burnt inlet]

Tool is really really important

[opal rose]

i would like to play bio but one of my mates already plays it qwq

[burnt inlet]

Do yall use bio when sneaking?

[ocean spindle]

FIFTY HOURS
idk i just- gun says short range, u gotta like realize when u do testin or something
but i guess a lot of people just do kinda plaay, and thats it so

normal people

[digital mural]

Learn to fast stealth as soon as possible

[burnt inlet]

Yea but hel rifle says long range (I think) but it’s great at short range too

[prime musk]

play knife

[opal rose]

we go to door, use bio open door, keep bio open, mark enemies that move

[opal rose]

yeah we spend so much time...

[opal rose]

no and yes and no

[burnt inlet]

I was gonna say this but don’t be afraid to run to a sleeper

[digital mural]

Omg Moth

[ocean spindle]

as a general tip too i guess u can always ask about stuff, and check the wiki if u need to- the game is obscure so gettin info is good, just be careful with the spoils :D

[opal rose]

i kinda now how enemies work in this game

[digital mural]

Do you?

[opal rose]

i know about soft and hard triggers and reseting and some more

[digital mural]

Good lord

[prime musk]

listen
it is the case that at the top level of this game, knife is optimal on all but like 5 levels
hammer never falls offs and is good into every scenario but knife is just optimal in almost all cases

[ocean spindle]

such gaming

[ocean spindle]

knife gamiing on r2b2

[prime musk]

the gun that scatters

[ocean spindle]

a

[digital mural]

Eewwwww

[opal rose]

Me and my squad were way to carefull about scouts

[digital mural]

Charge your melee and run at them

Ez

[opal rose]

opinion on spear?

[prime musk]

scout waves are never dangerous. what is dangerous is the rooms that may awaken from it.

[digital mural]

Avoid using spear

It forces the player to play bad

[opal rose]

explain

[burnt inlet]

Don’t say you use spear unless you wanna get flamed here lmao, it’s only good for one thing and one thing only (which you guys will never do)

[opal rose]

i mean you better off using hammer instead

[digital mural]

It forces you to go slow

[opal rose]

i wanna know tho

[digital mural]

You won't be able to do much against cluster of sleeping enemies, awoken enemies or fast stealth

You WILL get hit

You can't sprint with spear

[burnt inlet]

You go slow which is kinda trash, any error alarms and you either are at max stamina or pull out ur gun which isn’t good usually

[burnt inlet]

Some spoilers ||can be used to kill some bosses easier||

[digital mural]

||Kraken||

[burnt inlet]

Vro

…

[opal rose]

xD

[burnt inlet]

Was avoiding that

For a REASON

[digital mural]

Bro you wont be using spear for that

[ocean spindle]

yeah nah

[digital mural]

Seriously

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[digital mural]

Not even ||bosses||

[opal rose]

i sadly looked at some footage of r8e2

[digital mural]

You won't be meleeing a || mom or tank|| unless shit went really bad

[burnt inlet]

Not gonna argue as to why I’m right with plural

[opal rose]

or generally rundown8

[digital mural]

Spiff?

[opal rose]

YESSSSS

[burnt inlet]

Unfort

[opal rose]

LOVE HIM

[digital mural]

Eh

[burnt inlet]

Bro said some misinfo ngl

[digital mural]

Don't listen too much to what he says

[opal rose]

YA YA I KNOW

[ocean spindle]

NOOOO

SPOILED

this is so sad

[digital mural]

Also if you struggle at something ask

Don't wait until you are 1000 attempts on a level

cough cough

[opal rose]

I DONT CARE i know they played the game mostly casual

[ocean spindle]

gaming

[opal rose]

i dont even care for spoiled enemies but i spoiled myself parts of story

[digital mural]

Everyone dies

The end

:D

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[opal rose]

i know theres a mission with like an unkillable thing?

[ocean spindle]

ehem

[opal rose]

dont wanna do that one

[ocean spindle]

no say

[burnt inlet]

Omg it’s asses husband

[ocean spindle]

pablo i see u writing

[digital mural]

You are still very very far from that

And he is my husband

So no touchie

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[opal rose]

i thought this community was totally sweaty and serious...

[burnt inlet]

Uhm

[digital mural]

Oop

Wait

[burnt inlet]

There’s some

But not really

[digital mural]

MACHINEGUN ARE FOR IDIOTS

RAAAAAAAAH

[ocean spindle]

:[

[opal rose]

I hated using machine guns

[opal rose]

cant read that shi

[ocean spindle]

sometimes it gets funk but usually is goobers

[burnt inlet]

Smth smth mg bad

[opal rose]

cant wait to use the lfg when i cant play the game for the 5th time a week cause its impossible to get 4 idiots on one game

[digital mural]

Chat

[ocean spindle]

:D

me

[digital mural]

It's time

.t lfg

[ocean spindle]

NOOOO

uh

...

[digital mural]

What the fuck

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

and the-. wheres the

oh ther

NOOOOOO

[opal rose]

love you pleps already xD

[ocean spindle]

aww :3

i will hel rifle u on extract

[digital mural]

Actually burst cannon is better for that

[opal rose]

i heard hell rifle is meta now

[burnt inlet]

its kinda meta

[opal rose]

and helgun is bad now

[burnt inlet]

no

[opal rose]

which was meta before

[burnt inlet]

helgun is just harder

its not bad

its up there

bro wehres the frosty mg bad copypasta but like non sticker one

[ocean spindle]

hel gun is hard to use but its an extremely good and flexible gun that functions ANYYYYWHEREE

hel rifle is an easy to use gun but extremely good and a smidge less flexible but still amazing gun

hel rifle is just more focused on damage, hel gun on speed kinda

speed and precision

[opal rose]

sooo

hel rifle: aim at enemie, shoot = dead
helgun: aim at weakspots = dead

[ocean spindle]

baasically yes :3
hel rifle is in the 30 dmg bracket

hel gun i believe its 16, so a headshot for smalls

[burnt inlet]

also line enemies up

for both of them

[ocean spindle]

and abouttt 3/4 of the mag for bigs

[opal rose]

what is the 30dmg thingy? one shot smalls?

[ocean spindle]

yes cuz cuz HEL

yes!

[burnt inlet]

hel rifle my beloved

[ocean spindle]

strikers have 20 ( ) and shooters 30 ( )

[opal rose]

ah

where to aim at giants

with guns

not melee

[ocean spindle]

uh chest usually, their heads have a very littlee damage multi which is basically only for sniper

[burnt inlet]

bodyshots or limbs, depends if u wanna stagger

[ocean spindle]

otherwise if u can get behind them, all enemies take x2 dmg in the back

[burnt inlet]

and most of the time sniper isnt good enough to run anyways

[opal rose]

i swear all this info i consume is gone soon cause im awake since yesterday 6am..

[digital mural]

Enemies don't like backshots

So give them backshots

A lot of backshots

[ocean spindle]

i do like so gimme

[opal rose]

yesh cause of multiplier

right?

[ocean spindle]

:3

[opal rose]

if i use a high cal then go for limbs maybe?

[burnt inlet]

if you wanna stagger yes

[opal rose]

if i use helgun just aim for anywhere?

[burnt inlet]

but i think high cal might be good enough to cause a dmg stagger on like 3 or 4 shots

[ocean spindle]

pretty much, just go for bodyshots so u dont miss much

plus hel gun is very spammable

[opal rose]

how many hp do giants have?

how much damage do helgun and helrifle do?

everyones dead

my free gtfo trial ran out ig?

[ocean spindle]

im doing hw >:[ (kinda)

bigs have 120 hp

hel rifles 30

[opal rose]

what you doin?

[ocean spindle]

hhel guns 16.something

[ocean spindle]

vibin with funk music

[opal rose]

thats hw?

[gray blaze]

Shouldn't it be just two shots? Giant HP stagger is 40, high cal damage is 30

[burnt inlet]

idk

dont use it

[ocean spindle]

ah no
hw is psychometric testing

[opal rose]

but

[opal rose]

tf is that?

[gray blaze]

Okay, I thought maybe I was misunderstanding how stagger HP works

[ocean spindle]

intelligence test or something

[burnt inlet]

no as in i dont use it

[ocean spindle]

like when u get ihred

[ocean spindle]

theres also liimb hp

[burnt inlet]

i meant idk cuz i dont use it 😔

[opal rose]

i dont know that

we dont got that here

[ocean spindle]

jobless

[opal rose]

noooo..

yes..

but

not for long anyomore

gotta use the free time for gtfo and terraria tho

[ocean spindle]

thats ok more time for gamiing

[opal rose]

why are spears the way they are?

they serve almost no purpose

[burnt inlet]

yeppers

[prime musk]

could ask the same about most guns

[opal rose]

i think thats one to much

[prime musk]

the real answer is that the devs did not understand how the game was balanced and how to correct it

on top of that the variety in encounters just doesn't support the number of guns in the game

[opal rose]

sounds funny

[gray blaze]

short rifle

[prime musk]

listen
at top level
there are 3 viable mains
and 4 viable specials

[opal rose]

hel revolver, carbine, dmr these come to my mind

[prime musk]

sawed off > hel shotgun > hel revo

dmr and carbine are a tier below

[opal rose]

helshotgun? really?

[prime musk]

they're both fine

[prime musk]

its only weakness is that it has a bad reload

[opal rose]

lets talk specials

[prime musk]

scatter burst cannon hel rifle hel gun

[opal rose]

yeah id say same

does the sniper have a purpose?

[prime musk]

the former are boss and big kill with great waveclear potential
the latter are broken waveclear with decent damage into every other target

[prime musk]

it kills hybrids

it kills kraken

that's it

[prime musk]

this already means you'll come far in the game so glhf

[digital mural]

Really fucking good against big enemies

And thats it

[opal rose]

tips for r1c1

[digital mural]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[opal rose]

thats nice

i love the
shotgun sentry is in the game
autosentry is in the game

[ocean spindle]

but the trade is like, huge

it has by far the highest ceiling out of aall the mains

[ocean spindle]

auto sentry :[

grown to like it but :[ cant use it

[undone raven]

And it's ok into bosses... kinda

[ocean spindle]

spoils smh

jk

[valid turret]

what do the computers do

[burnt inlet]

show u where stuf fis

[digital mural]

Terminals? You need to type stuff for some objectives and you can use them to find stuff

They are the bread and butter of GTFO

You'll be using them a lot to know where to go and what to do

Or you'll waste hours exploring the whole level

[shy gull]

im super new to the game but does anyone know of bugs stopping mission items from spawning in the areas there said to be in?

[digital mural]

Those bugs are really really weird

Also I see you are in R1A1

You are looking for an HSU, a human size pod

[shy gull]

okay so it should be pretty obvious

[digital mural]

There's multiple pods

Check the one that has the same numbers as your objective

[shy gull]

well the area its saying its in ive searched topped to bottom and theres nothing in there

[digital mural]

You used the ping command right?

[ocean spindle]

[[HSU]] this is how it looks

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/HSU

[shy gull]

holy shit im so dumb

[burnt inlet]

welcome to R1A1 where all da newbies dont know how to run it lmao

[shy gull]

those pods just blend in very well

[burnt inlet]

ngl i agree

they look like theyre just random junk

(gamers when the yellow paint isnt in the objective items)

[blissful falcon]

.t r2e1

Huh

[burnt inlet]

its only for R1C1

[blissful falcon]

'_'

Ah

I see

Ill just sit and cry

[burnt inlet]

cuz of this ^

[turbid fable]

how good is the hel shotty?

[tardy ingot]

very good

[livid stone]

how good is the hell shottyer

[native sun]

2nd best main, but takes some getting used to (and you have to play around its range and reload pretty hard)

[grizzled patrol]

To kite awake enemies in GTFO, use tight loops 🔁 around terrain, hug corners 🧱 to slow their pathing, and drop off ledges 🪂 to reset distance. Strafe ↔️ instead of backpedaling, and sprint 🏃‍♂️ in bursts to conserve stamina. Time melee hits 🪓 to stagger pursuers, and use C-Foam ❄️ or mines 💣 to delay groups. Communicate 📢 with teammates to rotate aggro or pull enemies off each other. Always kite toward safe zones 🚪, not dead ends ☠️. Avoid panic sprinting 😱 or tunnel vision. Kiting isn’t escaping—it’s controlled evasion 🧠 to manage waves and support your team.

[burnt inlet]

Me when I kite Pablo in R8A2

[blissful falcon]

So what should you do when ya sucked in so much fog from a room you cough out your soul. You got an infinite alarm goin and 3 giants w their long shlong in the way.

[burnt inlet]

I hate all these Hange 🫃 wannabe players hoarding all the medipacks , not contributing until 3 downed trying to long kite thinking they are so cool having watched a single professor scalar 🐉 tutorial on r2e1.
Like come on, you think you free-weekend players 🤑 can handle GTFO? That's cute. Do you know how many hours I have in cod zombies 🤦 ? Like you think you're hot shit because you've played Samdown, T3-E3? Get real!
You're just a wannabe speedrunner 🧠 who couldn't even handle Heat Havoc if your life depended on it.

Nah, Hange would win 🔥 , face it, you're out of your league.

Go back to Fortnite, stop joining Rose's 🌹 lobbies thinking your hot shit, let the real Gamers (Voxy, Hange) handle this.
You're nothing but a pub-tier player pretending to hang with the big dogs. Go back to door bugging your clears.

Don't @me, git gud.
🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[lost hollow]

Does it matter where you place the c foam on a door when permafoaming? I've noticed sometimes you end up foaming enemies through the door

[ripe hamlet]

its a bug (with mod fix)

you should foam the top part of the door to avoid it happening

[lost hollow]

Ahh okay, is it a client bug? I usually play with pretty high ping

[burnt inlet]

i think it happens with host too, the actual bug part of it is that enemies clip thru doors (which is also why mines can be activated thru doors sometimes)

[lost hollow]

Mmm, got it that makes sense thanks

I feel like it happens more often with chargers so that might be why

[burnt inlet]

it also happens with moms iirc

[prime musk]

enemies can clip through doors to eat foam - this is most common with chargers, giants, big chargers, mothers, pmothers, megamothers, tanks, and snatchers. foaming where they aren't clipping through hits the door and reinforces it.

there is a different bug that makes foam go through doors, called shooterbug. restarting game fixes this bug, as it is a memory leak issue. there is a mod that fixes this bug.

[lost hollow]

Oh that's great... havnt played a level I had to permafoam with a mom in the wave yet though

assuming tank would be even worse?

or at least harder to avoid by foaming higher

[burnt inlet]

prolly yes

[burnt inlet]

back in R5E1 was pubing CS with goat amongst others and uhhh yea a guy placed mines too close to door, lemme see if i can find a clip

[prime musk]

oh yeah it's worth mentioning that mines can trigger on clipping enemies too, which can be run ending.
if it clips, the mine explodes and breaks the door, but without damaging any of the enemies behind it.

for big chargers, avoid placing high and close to door. for mothers, avoid placing low and close to door.

[lost hollow]

good to have in mind... Our default spot is low to the ground on the left

does that also happen for mines facing the door itself?

[prime musk]

it may be, but enemies "settle" into a position when they start breaking a door. if you notice where it is it's easy to swap over to a different spot

[prime musk]

yes, the detection beam just has to trigger on the clipping enemy

[lost hollow]

well that's cool... I play with a duo with bots and only time mine's blown up the door is bots trying to shoot them through the cracks and hitting the mine

[ripe hamlet]

ez fix

remove bots and play true duo

itd be more fun trust

[lost hollow]

fair but I like my omnidirectional biotracker...

[burnt inlet]

i could in fact not find it 😔

[prime musk]

mines clipping is very rare except in case of close low on moms and high close for big chargers. low and far works for every enemy always pretty much

[lost hollow]

I've thought about it for the more difficult levels since they like to die pretty easily on Surge alarms

[prime musk]

wdym

[lost hollow]

Playing with bots I meant, since they have a bit of trouble whenever enemies get on top of them

[prime musk]

i would highly recommend trying true duo because it is the peak of challenge runs in this game

but it is the case that the bots do generally make things easier, especially if you dynamically lock them in and out depending on the situation

[lost hollow]

what's the best tool combo for that?

[fathom ice]

r4e1?

[lost hollow]

do you just ditch the bio?

[prime musk]

rn?

[fathom ice]

yea

[prime musk]

you usually take it anyways because it's really really good

[prime musk]

i could but we're not speeding

[fathom ice]

yea sure

[lost hollow]

I do like cheating "Carry the objective item" for dense rooms with cells etc.

[soft crater]

You could just

Play vanilla

[valid turret]

how do i join my friends in gtfo

[sudden nexus]

join through steam or copy lobby code

[digital mural]

make lobby
Copy code from the red box on the side of the screen
Send code to friend
Friend copy code
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#how-to-matchmake

[cinder lance]

what's a good combo with hel autopistol? thinking of trying it out, but unsure if i want to find a generalist killy special weapon, or try to go for anti-big guy™ specialist wrapon

[civic wave]

whatever you fancy, really

[ocean spindle]

just depends on what ur teaam needs or the level needs

[cinder lance]

i'm going blind for the levels, but we have been in r2c2 i think for a bit. the generator cluster.
maybe i'll just compliment what my friends are running and go from there

[wheat gate]

generally i like to take a slower heavier weapon cos autopistol is so fast u can be less afraid of the slower weapons even during long fights

[cinder lance]

it is nice going from swift to slow weapons. like a refreshing hot and cold for gameplay lol

[wheat gate]

hel rifle/scatter is my go to for pretty much everything
i rarely take any other weapon

[cinder lance]

high cal pistol seemed funny for bodyshot horde clear, though i think i would appreciate revolver's minigame of hitting headshots more.
for horde clear*

[ocean spindle]

r2d1

[cinder lance]

thx

[ocean spindle]

revo does limit u to only smalls so consider that

plus r2d1 has bad visibility so

it might be harder to hit

[cinder lance]

yeah haha dmr in there was a fun time

slightly related, but are there pinned guides for gtfo in this server? i can't seem to find much other than tips from the gtfo wiki
mainly trying to find out weapon combos and that one fanatic that knows the inside out of their weapon haha

[undone raven]

Dmr heavy assault rifle goes crazy

If you shoot a striker to the head HAR one shots to body

[ocean spindle]

theres some cool guides from d4rkeva, and some from professor scaler too

but for weapon combos u will almost always find about the same guns

HEL weaponrry and sawed off/carbine usually

[undone raven]

Scatter 💀

[cinder lance]

cool beans

[civic wave]

there's the #guides-and-reviews channel

[patent mulch]

for almost all the missions i ran hel revo + shotgun

[turbid fable]

why is slug shotgun not more popular, seems like just a better sawed off

[digital mural]

It's not.....

[turbid fable]

how

[ocean lance]

how is it a better sawed off

maybe start with thst question

[turbid fable]

hits all the same break points but better as a primary with better range, 6 shots, worse reload tho sure

[ocean spindle]

sawed off rocks 30 dmg with amazing dps and an instant reload, slug rocks 21 dmg with about the same rangee, worse dps, worse delay per shhot and longer reload

it does not have better range rlly

[ocean lance]

sawed off can stagger multiple enemies aswell

[turbid fable]

same range how

[prime musk]

team

[ocean lance]

dps is just unmatched

[prime musk]

slug has better reload than sawed off

[turbid fable]

you can snipe with it

[prime musk]

you cancel it and you save like 0.3 over sawed off

[ocean lance]

the problem with range

[prime musk]

that said sawed off masisvely diffs slug

[ocean lance]

is thst it doesn't matter in this game

everything runs at you

and corners are broken

[ocean spindle]

up to a point and up to an effective range, and without being able to deal with bigs or front facing scouts

as those dont die within the mag/a headshot

[ocean lance]

is slug usable? Absolutely

is it better than sawed off?

it's not even close

[ocean spindle]

plus yes run to enemy is effective

[turbid fable]

it can deal with front face scouts im like 90% sure

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12NK4Q3oNjR8Gs57GWc2YXlUMiIXQmdeRlNPJLwGtk1U/edit?gid=1753846877#gid=1753846877

[ocean spindle]

within 6 meters

thats wat i mean

[ocean lance]

it don't matter tho

[digital mural]

At that point you'll be meleeing them tho

[ocean lance]

why are we talking about scouts team

the most useless point in this

[prime musk]

scouts aren't threatening enemies

the most important matchup here is crawlers team

[ocean lance]

^

[ocean spindle]

team :[

[digital mural]

Alright team we should hug each other

[ocean lance]

team go fuck urself

[ocean spindle]

q-q

[digital mural]

Damn

[turbid fable]

isnt any marginal dps save you get from the increased fire rate just like. offset by having to wait for enemies to actually get in range

[ocean lance]

no

[prime musk]

lakana i sentence you to go zed something

[ocean lance]

it doesn't work that way mac

are you in a hurry to kill enemies?

[turbid fable]

...yes? isnt that the point of guns

[ocean lance]

no

wrong answer

range anyways is a job done by special guns

hel rifle/gun - bc

[ocean spindle]

ur in a hurry to finish the alarm ✨

[ocean lance]

even then

who cares

your job is to do scans

[ocean spindle]

(also i dont undeerstand this sentence)

[prime musk]

ok unironically

[ocean spindle]

what does it mean

[ocean lance]

the faster you kill enemies actually the more ammo you have to waste

[turbid fable]

"you can shoot faster, but because you have to wait for enemies to get close to you, it evens out"

[prime musk]

i feel like people good at the game are really bad at explaining shit well because
when i was bad
i felt like the explanations where ass and didn't make sense until i got pretty fucking good

[ocean spindle]

ohh, nah u can rrun to them if needed

plus deal with them in groups

something slug cant

[ocean lance]

it's hard to explain something thst is so obvious

that's the issue

like if you're good and you play sawed off

you just know it's better, like it's not evne close

[prime musk]

the slug r3d1 solo speed

trust

the speed of a slug

[ocean spindle]

i guess the better explanation is in [[Slug Shotgun]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Slug_Shotgun

[ocean lance]

oh you're so right

[ocean spindle]

and [[Sawed-Off Shotgun]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Sawed-Off_Shotgun

[ocean lance]

mac the short story is

we have thousands of hours on the game

just trust us

long story is just play whatever you want

[turbid fable]

i mean, i know most vets prefer it

im kinda trying to get an idea of why

[ocean lance]

have you tried it?

[prime musk]

the reason is that in any dangerous situation

[ocean spindle]

the wiki pages explain both of them pretty weell if need be

[prime musk]

commencing sawed offf spam bails you

completely

[turbid fable]

and what im getting is, its better to kill enemies when you actually need to kill them, which is when theyre close to you because of alarms

[ocean lance]

this

the gun is literally a get out of jail free card

[turbid fable]

yeah its good

[digital mural]

Slug shits itself when you have more than 4 at the same time

[ocean lance]

he actually understands

[turbid fable]

but if i dont miss with sawed off i dont see how its not just better

[sturdy glen]

have you tried clicking faster

[ocean lance]

^