gtfo-related-questions

[tiny wyvern]

unless you have shadows on low

[fathom ice]

wdym

[tiny wyvern]

Are you soloing?

[ripe hamlet]

have the setting at least medium and you good

[civic wave]

audio lets you pinpoint a lot of them

[fathom ice]

lrf / bio solos that zone

[supple axle]

I use my flashlight, they wake up, I wait until they go back to sleep, I swing

Because I need to check for each one I can't just run between them like enemies I can see

[fathom ice]

you don't have to play perfectly safe ngl

cuz most of the time there's a bunch of lone shadows

[burnt inlet]

They got circadian rhythms now?

[fathom ice]

u can kill for free anw

[burnt inlet]

Lowkey I pull most shadow rooms

[tiny wyvern]

not r4c2
don't pull that

Those are actually terrifying to pull

[burnt inlet]

I uhh

Forgor that level

[tiny wyvern]

15 GLP
with a... fun sec and ov

[burnt inlet]

Is it the like billion uplink verify sec

[tiny wyvern]

[[r4c2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R4c2?action=edit&redlink=1

[tiny wyvern]

oh come on

[[alt://r4c2]]

[fathom ice]

[[R4C2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Alt://r4c2?action=edit&redlink=1

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R4C2

[fathom ice]

kek

captions !!

[tiny wyvern]

man

It's a GLP ID and carry smth back home with you mission

also shadow surges I believe?
Or just normal surges

[fathom ice]

no

[supple axle]

Shadow error alarm

[fathom ice]

normal surges

[ocean lance]

iirc there's no shadow surges in vanilla lol

[burnt inlet]

Oh is that one level where you sneak past mom usually?

[fathom ice]

ure correct

[grizzled patrol]

no

[fathom ice]

that error is pretty bad tho\

[burnt inlet]

Fuh you mean when I played it we did

[ocean lance]

if you keep mining behind you you can easily die yeah

[grizzled patrol]

i guess one of the zones has a mom yeah.

[burnt inlet]

Isnt it the like three surge alarm one?

[grizzled patrol]

yes

[fathom ice]

you kill mom

usually

[burnt inlet]

Funi level

[safe cradle]

For all the R4C2s I did with pugs I just foamed the shit out of the doors in the Overload zone then foamed at the bulkheads since they're chokes

[tardy ingot]

2 hel auto sentries carry

the surges quite well

[burnt inlet]

We just sneaked past it

[safe cradle]

Mining makes zero sense because shadows will take aeons to take to you if they spawn behind

[tardy ingot]

yea you just kinda close doors behind

dont even rly need foam

[safe cradle]

So bla bla bla, spawn cap etc

[burnt inlet]

I remember we dealt with the triple surge room via shooting scout and mining a door further back and just killing most of the shadows that way

[safe cradle]

Pointless IMHO unless your team was really down for ammo

There ain't THAT many enemies there

[burnt inlet]

Maybe it was the room before cuz it was that many😭

[safe cradle]

And the next avaiable door is... kinda far

unless you didnt use the door near the bulkhead for secondary

[burnt inlet]

Nah we used that for the alarm

[safe cradle]

Point is, whenever you consider pulling a room, think about how many sleepers you can kill without alerting the scout or scouts

Like, ones that are risk free

[burnt inlet]

11B room

[safe cradle]

I'll admit that sometimes rooms like that are a pain because the entrypoint is a catwalk with a staircase

but I usually try to kill some shit before going "yeah, i'll shoot the scout"

[burnt inlet]

Nah but we didn’t want to go into that room cuz it got a lot of shadows covering the entrance usually and shooting the scout is easier than clearing it

[safe cradle]

yeah if the entrance is fucked I guess pulling makes sense

[burnt inlet]

The like 3 times I got there it was always fucked

[safe cradle]

I dont think you needed to go back to a door to mine it, but whatever, that's like 5 mins who cares

[burnt inlet]

Like at least 6 near door and cba with that

[burnt inlet]

Rather save the ammo just in case

[tardy ingot]

melee

especially with the triple surge room

[safe cradle]

apfelss

[tardy ingot]

enemies take a while to get to the door

so you typically only see a few at the same time

since shadows are so slow

[supple axle]

Yeah I was talking about mining a door for a room you're entering with shadows

[safe cradle]

as in?

[burnt inlet]

I mean I did clear the first like 10 to not preemptively break down the door but then came like 25 and cba with that

[safe cradle]

ah you mean to clear Overload?

[supple axle]

To clear any shadow room that's annoying with a door I can close

[burnt inlet]

Just to be clear team its 54 we all thinking of right?

[safe cradle]

to sacrifice a door in the context of R4C2 BEFORE taking the sphere I'd really not do personally

I'd just melee unless I know room has a big shadow

[tardy ingot]

yea at that point you just shoot the rooms

they are rarely that packed

[tardy ingot]

^

[safe cradle]

if big shadow, I shoot and that's it

If you're not comfortable with shadow scouts I'd also rather shoot them tbh

but I'd leave door open

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-media message was the room before it which we cleared with shooting after getting scout killed

[safe cradle]

what kills groups of pugs in R4C2 is 1- The surges. 2- The end error alarm of shadows.

[supple axle]

So there's no fast way to clear a shadow room with stealth then
Bio or thermal or flashlight

[burnt inlet]

Also it was like 4 am I really didn’t want to lose when I did the mine Strat😭

[supple axle]

Or just alert all of them and gun them down

[safe cradle]

...yes? you melee

[supple axle]

But how do you know where the enemies are?

[safe cradle]

I mean you usually either get fast or safe

[burnt inlet]

Flashlight

[safe cradle]

thermal, bio...

[burnt inlet]

And sound

[safe cradle]

flashlight to ground too

[burnt inlet]

If ur not on thermal/bio

[safe cradle]

I'll give you a tip

forget they're shadows

pretend your game is bugged and you cant see them

same for shadow scouts

pretend they're glitched texture missing scouts with a funny hat

[burnt inlet]

Shadow scouts sound hard but is actually not that bad

[safe cradle]

and hit the funny hat

[fathom ice]

curious

[civic wave]

audio is pretty huge for knowing where enemies are and roughly how many are about

[fathom ice]

footsteps / shadows

[civic wave]

i can pretty well navigate a room of shadows using only audio, and it'd only be slow if i wanted it to be by absolutely trying to avoid long range aggro

[burnt inlet]

Also keep ur weapon charged

[topaz anvil]

Take their fedora

[supple axle]

I can hear the general area of them, but after they get close enough or if there are too many I can't approximate exact distance to swing or not

[burnt inlet]

Ur circle gets smaller when u can melee

[fathom ice]

more practice

[supple axle]

Whenever shadows show up next, I'll try the shining at their feet thing to not wake them

[burnt inlet]

And hit

[safe cradle]

melee ring gets smaller if you're in range

[fathom ice]

you'll figure it out eventually

[safe cradle]

and even then hammer has more range than that from my anecdotal experience

[burnt inlet]

Guys pick spears for shadows trust

[safe cradle]

you dont need anything that isn't an hammer

[supple axle]

Yeah it's whatever in the end, the shadows aren't a problem

[burnt inlet]

Fr

[supple axle]

Just annoying to do it slow or loud or need a thermal or need a bio
Wiki says next time I'll see them is R4D2 so I'll do the flashlight to the foot thing

[safe cradle]

one of the graph options makes it very hard to see shadows

I think shadows to whatever was the lowest was REALLY bad

[supple axle]

Yeah I recently changed my settings because I realized my settings made it impossible to see with flashlight

[safe cradle]

If you want to get used to shadows easier, faster is to drop in R5D2 but I get that you probably didnt unlock it yet

[burnt inlet]

Not that level

[supple axle]

I'm in no rush, either I beat everything on my way or I don't

[burnt inlet]

Don’t like that level at all

[supple axle]

I've heard R5 is where a difficulty spike is, not sure what level

C3?

[tardy ingot]

compared to earlier rundown levels? not rly

R2E1 and R4E1 outclass everything R5 has bar R5E1 pretty much

[safe cradle]

Consider also that the weapon you have equipped has different flashlights

[burnt inlet]

R6 has a good spike but depends if ur good or not ig

[tardy ingot]

R5 as a whole is just often a bit higher in difficulty per tier (especially C tiers) and even moreso with optionals (in A tiers and B tiers)

[safe cradle]

Melee flash is shit, Carbine flashlight is very very nice to see shadows

[burnt inlet]

But like most A tiers are ez af cuz they’re the intro

[tardy ingot]

main only yea

[burnt inlet]

Oh yes

[supple axle]

Ah, then it'll probably be fine

[tardy ingot]

R5 is very very polarizing with how well its designed

levels are typically either rly well or badly designed

[safe cradle]

yeah if you can finish R4E1 Extreme you can finish all of R5 IMHO

[supple axle]

Looking at R5E1, TIL 101+% infection resist lowers infection in the fog

[burnt inlet]

R5B1 is pain

[supple axle]

That's hilarious

[safe cradle]

R5 is bad just because some maps are annoying and long in a certain combination

R5C2, R5D1 especially...

I also do not really like much R5C1 but it's okay map I guess

[tardy ingot]

R5C2 at least is fun throughout the optionals

R5C1 is uplink issue man :(

the idea of the level is actually quite cool
outside of the objective itself that is

[safe cradle]

I'd ask groups doing R5C2 if I can bounce out after Overload 🤣

[burnt inlet]

Last time I tried it we died due to being overran by the errors in the fog last time… was not impressed lol

[safe cradle]

but I get that's not an option

[burnt inlet]

Wait no

[tardy ingot]

[burnt inlet]

Missread mb team

[safe cradle]

The reactor's fine but it doesn't make me want to do the whole map

errors in the fog

you were thinking of R4B2?

[burnt inlet]

Yep

Was muted so can’t blame team that much tbf

[safe cradle]

could also be R5B2

[supple axle]

R4E1 looks fun

[burnt inlet]

Meant R5B2 yea im blind today

[civic wave]

r5b2 is a level i very much dislike

[burnt inlet]

It is (got carried tho so🤷‍♂️)

[civic wave]

r4e1 is cool

[safe cradle]

I think it's weirdly designed for no reason

[burnt inlet]

Fr don’t like that level

[safe cradle]

like most levels about GLPs tbh

[civic wave]

every zone and objective is just

gross

and slimy

[burnt inlet]

They give me R5B2 after the pin that B1 was? Crazy

[burnt inlet]

”Pickup (insert thing)”

Literally entire level

[tardy ingot]

should removed the uplinks and instead put IDs into secondary

double down on the funny (and it would legit be better)

[supple axle]

I kinda get a pleasure out of slowly listing and pinging things throughout a level, it's very soothing

[tardy ingot]

I will say tho
R5B2 is a pretty good speedrun

[civic wave]

my face when i click on the bar at the top of the window and my henchman jump against a cylindrical storage tank for 4 minutes

[tardy ingot]

thats you assuming I mean the cool concept 18 second run

and not the top 4 fastest level any% run

[civic wave]

nah nah it's me taking the piss out of glitched because i fucking hate early drop bug

[burnt inlet]

Is one of the uplinks guaranteed to be in fog?

[tardy ingot]

no?

[civic wave]

even if that uplink spawns in the fog

you can stand halfway on the terminal

and not get infected

[burnt inlet]

My way of doing uplinks makes it so I need to be crouched under it😔

[burnt inlet]

Damn we rolled bad rng 3 times in a row

[surreal lark]

Is Gargamel real?

[inner inlet]

what are good guns for r2c2? my team is cooked lmao

[ocean spindle]

well, the usual
sawed off, heel weaponry, etc etc

[prime musk]

all the close ranged guns that are good pretty much

could take 1 ranged option for bigs as well

[digital mural]

Hel revo, carbine, shotguns

Maybe a burst cannon

[sudden nexus]

melee will be very helpful for the error

literally anything thats not spear

[supple axle]

What's the proper way to avoid proximity aggro from killing an enemy by bumping them beforehand?
I bumped an enemy and then killed them but a nearby enemy still got aggro'd

[ocean spindle]

bumping an enemy i believe raises the chance to long aggro to a 100% (compared to the 50-ish of killing it normally with a melee weapon)

so i would simply not try to bump it unless u wanna FORCE long aggro

[supple axle]

Ah, so you trade proximity for long

[ocean spindle]

wait did i undeerstand wrong

do u mean like, prevnting two enemies that are super close from waking up?

is that what u mean by proximity aggro?

[supple axle]

Yeah

When you kill one, normally anything within like, 5 meters wakes up

[ocean spindle]

prox aggro is not hold by chance, its by distance, u cannot prevent an enemy that is kissin another from not waking up

its a yes or no condition and u just deeal around it

[supple axle]

There're definitely ways to avoid it, I was under the impression bumping was one of them

[ocean spindle]

long range aggro is the one where enemies that are slightly at a distance wake up when they are glowin, and something happens around them (like killing a buddy)

[supple axle]

The other one I'm sure of is more annoying, where you kill a long aggro'd enemy
That enemy can't trigger proximity aggro itself

[ocean spindle]

short range aggro theres no easy way, it is just determined by how close one its to another
the only way in that in aa group, u wake up one and not thee otheer, is by forcing long range aggro on one

but that means u need a "triangle" formatiion

D4rkeva explains it very well on his stealth guide

[supple axle]

Another way is hitting the ground near an enemy

Then killing that enemy

[ocean spindle]

theres even a more important question to

why

most times u shoot or kill one and then the other silently

[supple axle]

The why doesn't really matter, I know there's something with bumping and I'm either misunderstanding its effects or how to do it

[ocean spindle]

the thing is probs bump forces long rangee aggro, so with the triangle formation, u bump thee far-away eenemy, one of thee two in the close group wakes up, u kill it

bam

u prevented close range aggro

but it neeeds a setup and also effort that is unnecesary kinda

[timber shoal]

isn’t the purpose of bumping an enemy to prevent a long range aggro you can’t stop from screaming?

like you flash a nearby enemy and then bump-kill something near it in a room that isn’t synced up so the whole room doesn’t go up?

That was my understanding

[burnt inlet]

So flash the guy whose far ish away, bump-kill the closest one and kill far away enemy makes sure that the far away enemy doesn’t proxy aggro smth else

[ocean spindle]

thats the exact same thing i said

[timber shoal]

my fault g

my reading comprehension is piss poor rn

[burnt inlet]

”stop them from screaming” and ”Whole room doesn’t go up” part was my reason for saying it

Cuh go to bed or sum

[timber shoal]

i wanna

but people have like

[burnt inlet]

Dew it

[timber shoal]

expectations for me

[burnt inlet]

Nuh uh

When ur sleeping they don’t

Trust

[ocean spindle]

but im pretty sure doing that 'ritual' doesnt preevent screams

it just force wakes up the long range guy

[burnt inlet]

Same which is why I said what I said

[ocean spindle]

this convo is just too confusing

:[

leets all sleep

[timber shoal]

huzzah!

[burnt inlet]

Frfr

[ocean spindle]

i wanna sleep in the aarms of a boy

[burnt inlet]

Aren’t u like Italian or is that sleepo I’m thinking about

[ocean spindle]

sleepo

im mexican

[timber shoal]

that’s so damn real of you

[burnt inlet]

Same same

[supple jackal]

what is the most efficent gun for taking out the hybrid guys (they never die dude, i swear)

[upper ginkgo]

sniper or scattergun probably

[timber shoal]

high cal pistol works nice as well especially with the help of a sniper turret

if you’re playing w friends just tell them to hard focus them as well

[ocean spindle]

but not rlly most efficient

cuz all 30 dmg are about thee same but theres faster and better guns

[sudden nexus]

ong

[undone raven]

How to get rich quick

[burnt inlet]

Take people’s money

[undone raven]

Ohhhh

Thx I will try this

How to get poor quick?

[prime musk]

give people money

[undone raven]

Ohhhh

Thx I will try this

[fresh helm]

Scatter gun. Point blank.

[undone raven]

(in the back)

[fathom ice]

front / head kills as well

[undone raven]

Its more consistent (easier) in the back

[fathom ice]

yeah but like

you still can kill to front / head

[undone raven]

Ik

[sleek cairn]

hello everyone, does anyone know if there are mods that improve sound positioning in game? it seems that developers have trimmed positioning to improve performance.

[frail heart]

i dont think so?

sound is fine in the game

[fathom fossil]

Why isnt there a shooting range i wanna test all the guns out but dont want to load into a match

[tardy ingot]

was never rly thought to be that important I guess

If you rly wanna test guns you could load the mod „cconsole“

allows you to swap guns in the level and refresh ammo while also making you unkillable

[spark idol]

I really have a hard time with R2D2... No matter how many times I turn it around, I just can't seem to finish it.
(I've only managed to reach the last part of the mission once)
Does anyone have any tips for this level ?

[native sun]

What sentries / guns are you using?

[spark idol]

hum 3 Sentry + 1 bio tracker

for guns, I use buckland S870 + Carabine
and I know my friends have tested many different weapons, but we always had 2 snipers (koning) and 1 machine gun (I can't remember which)

[native sun]

Which sentries?

[spark idol]

Hel auto (rad lab meduza)

[tardy ingot]

the 2 snipers might be a noticeable issue

at best you take 1 if that guy rly does work on giants

[spark idol]

Isn't this a problem when pushing into the room with 2 Scout ?

[native sun]

The HEL Auto sentry has decent DPS, but on this level you really want longevity/efficiency.

For smalls, the best option is burst sentry, while to assist against the bigs in the level, sniper sentry is the way to go. Typically two bursts + one sniper sentry or one burst + two sniper sentries is the way to go.

[spark idol]

okok, I'll make a note of that

[native sun]

Where have you been defending the waves?

[ocean spindle]

(in general burst is better for most levels cuz it justs lasts 6 times more than auto
plus auto neeeds some specific strats to be eefficient)

[[HEL Auto Sentry]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/HEL_Auto_Sentry

[spark idol]

If I remember correctly, this is what we do

1-4 : on bridge
5 : in a small hollow near a closed door in 195(?)
7 : in the driveway of 194 to pass the alarm as soon as possible to go to 195
8-9-10 : in a small hollow near a closed door in 195(?) (if possible)

[native sun]

Follow up to this: what have you been typically dying to?
Getting overwhelmed by too many enemies at once?
Running out of resources?
Waves continuing long into the code hunt timer and then getting rushed in those sections?

[tardy ingot]

why would you need 2 snipers for the double scout room?
you can

1. melee a scout, shoot the other
2. shoot scouts with any of the other weapons that can (theres 10 weapons that can do so, hel rifle being by far the best option since it deletes waves and giants well)
3. shoot 1 scout and trigger the other

[spark idol]

what have you been typically dying to?
most of our dead came from :
• Lack of resources (ammo / tool)
• Missed shot on one of the Scouts in 197 (during double elimination, not syncronize)
• Enemies that arrive after the wave and wake up the whole room

[ocean spindle]

shooting two scouts at once its actually a little hard- i would practice meleeing one

or as eva said just activating thee other

u can always practice meleeing scouts directly in r1a1

[tardy ingot]

big info for scouts

a scout wave is only 12 enemies, group up IN the room the scout is in and kill the enemies inside. the 12 enemies coming from outside take a second and wont be too scary then
running out is the scary part

[spark idol]

I didn't know, I thought it was a whole wave

[ripe hamlet]

That’s typically a whole wave

[spark idol]

we'll give a try

[ocean spindle]

a smol wave

:3

[ocean spindle]

ur attt the donut room? is that ur record so far in d2?

that room with 2 scouts?

[spark idol]

nah, my record is 10/10 on reactor but with lack of ammo
we ended up falling to the ground

my group generally dies (except for exceptional catastrophic runs) around 6-9/10

[ocean spindle]

damn nevermind i was gonna say something but urr practically there

i guess ican say
oncee u do it, u should go straight to r3, dont bother with the e1

the E tiers are on a leeaguee of theiir own and u shoukd worry about those when u got 50-100 moree hours

(or well whenever u complete more levels)

[spark idol]

i've 90+ hours and smth like 60+ on just R2D2 LMAO

[ocean lance]

it's a pretty hard level

[ocean spindle]

jeesus qwq

weeell, more reasons to not touch e1

🎉

[spark idol]

yah hah

btw thanks u all for the advice ! ❤️

[ocean spindle]

its okii
if u need moree advice or need to check something about the leevel u can always see the wiki pagee [[R2D2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R2D2

[ocean spindle]

plus it includes a guide and a video guide (tho thee video guide is a lil outdated)

[ripe hamlet]

i have 200 hours and still havent beaten r2d1

tbf my team is determined to do true duo only and we jump around after getting stuck on r2d1 for 15 hours

[native sun]

Switching to burst/sniper sentries should help with the tool luckily.

Staying high on resources in this level is mostly down to fully looting every zone you go through, which mostly comes down to:

• Having lots of time during your code hunt timer
• Clearing the rooms quickly (don't be afraid to wake a room and spend some ammo to kill it quickly, you'll make the ammo back by being able to loot more)
• Being familiar with pinging resources to actually find them quickly

Clearing the wave faster will also naturally help with dealing with enemies arriving after the wave.

So it sounds like most of your problems can be alleviated by clearing the waves faster to maximize your code hunt timer.

[native sun]

However, the places you're holding are likely causing you issues in this regard.

Reactors spawn enemies... weirdly. Basically, the further away from reactor you are the further enemies will spawn away from you.
(Notable exception, on this particular level the first group of enemies will always spawn to the east of reactor)

As such, holding on the bridge is generally pretty good. You get to deal with the first wave of enemies super quickly, and you're not too far from reactor for the rest of the spawns. Also, when you do leave, you'll be forced to push through one of the sides of the reactor so you'll clean up extra enemies.

Holding in 196A isn't too bad, you start slightly behind due to the first wave, but it is a good hold spot.

I'd suggest trying to force holding on the bridge. If you find that this is shifting your problem towards getting overwhelmed by too many enemies at once, you can consider holding some waves in 196A. But I would strongly suggest against holding in 194 for that wave, instead, just head in that direction once the timer starts getting low.

[safe cradle]

tru

can I send you a DM?

[native sun]

Sure

[safe cradle]

(Nothing to do with the argument I quoted, was just to ping you)

[proud socket]

I just found a storage box in a level on the floor that prompts me with "surprise" and it says storage box locked when I try open it? Any idea what this means?

[native sun]

funny haha easter egg the devs put in for when they make too many boxes in an area

[digital mural]

if you open it youll find the most secret enemy in the game

[proud socket]

nightmare giant trust

[topaz anvil]

Omg pabl

[frail heart]

does he know

[proud socket]

yeah theres one in the whole game no way

[burnt inlet]

R8A2 sec my beloved

[fresh helm]

I think nightmare giant scout shadow p-mom is the worst. But that is just my opinion.

[spark idol]

I wish you good luck, my group also has its quirks too hah

[wheat gate]

shadow giant gotta be my least favorite enemy int he game

[burnt inlet]

Spitters solo

[spark idol]

thanks for all the advice, I'll take note of it and maybe come back in a few days with some good news (the success of the level with my team)

[wheat gate]

lol once in r8d1 i went down from 20 to 0 instantly just from spitters

they all stacked up on one spot

it was so loud xd

i think i got lucky teammates for my first r2d2 clear

o it was with zenpo i remember now

[tardy ingot]

you should run through the spitter hallway of death in r2b4 a few times

weve lost up to 40 hp there in 1 run

[uneven kiln]

[[R2E1]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R2E1

[uneven kiln]

check the trivia section here

[urban surge]

its just teammates shooting you. invisible enemies dont exist and cannot hurt u :) /j

[topaz anvil]

This is misinformation. Mods, ban this FAKER!

[sudden nexus]

the humble shadow hybrid:

[wheat gate]

i can see normal shadows but why are goant shadows harder to see

shpuldnt they b easier smh

[digital mural]

Some of them are crouching

Be extremely careful with those

They can destroy you in a second

[uneven kiln]

shouldn't they move and attack faster as well

[wheat gate]

no small thjings move fastre i think

most of the time ill just hear giant before i see them

and if i hear giant but cant see one then its gotta be shadow

if its not making noise then i will just accidentally kiss one and then die

[digital mural]

This is when the long range flashlight comes handy

[wheat gate]

hmmm

i admit iv always dropped flashlight in favor of lock melters

[uneven kiln]

but OG Shadow Giants moved at the speed of strikers, and that's fun

[digital mural]

No

Fucking

Way

💀

[wheat gate]

my issue is seeing them at all tbh

it has been more than once that iv stepped on a shadow giant without knowing

or theres just one left over from some wave about to lick me and i have no clue

[uneven kiln]

I would probably factor in how strong your weapon flashlight is if you aren't able to get an LRF or use thermals

[uneven kiln]

well this would be the biotrackers fault

[digital mural]

Plot twist: Bio is a bot

[wheat gate]

it has happened when im bio

[uneven kiln]

well this would be the biotrackers fault

[digital mural]

How

[wheat gate]

it was behind me

thats my excuse

game sometimes randomly decides u dont need to hear whats behind you

[uneven kiln]

so funny thing

it's not random

it's enemy culling their footstep audio when you look away

it's fixed by EnemyAnimationFix

[digital mural]

Peak game design

[uneven kiln]

the most obvious example is probably culling Big Chargers or Tanks

then with EnemyAnimationFix you'll always hear the loud footsteps

[wheat gate]

somtimes i feel like i cant hear their tongue either

mayb thats just me being bad

[topaz anvil]

If you want to play with large enemies that move at the speed they should and not slowed down you can

[uneven kiln]

OG R2E1 is simply magical

[topaz anvil]

Animation corrected giant chargers are scary

[uneven kiln]

as they should be

[topaz anvil]

Cue clip of me getting run over by an emperor charger

[urban surge]

i miss EA sm. funny shadow charger giants (granted its only on r2e1, r4 made them boring), funny rooms where every enemy from zone decided to spawn with scout there too, shadow scouts spawning in pairs.

og r2e1 is an experience, guns suck (we did it with 1 shotgun and 3 veruta machineguns), 3 good shotgun sentries (back damage and nice amount of ammo) is the only blessing. blood doors are overfilled with enemies, and if key spawns in locked locker right next to shadow giant you will need to kill like 10 of them. exit is a maze with a ton of enemies and couple scouts, very easy to get lost.

[dawn charm]

Is there a list of allowed cosmetic mods? And will I get a corrupted file if I unlock an apparel I already have equiped or something?

Honestly I'm just asking cus I don't like how I look under the visor and simply wanted to check if I will be banished for not wanting to look bad

[frail heart]

you can use whatever mods you want, just keep in mind using gameplay changing mods could lead to some sort of punsihment if someone doesnt like it

and no

someone i know made their character a floating torso

people dont care

[dawn charm]

So if I gave my character a glowing visor cyberpunk style it'll be fine (just an example)?

[urban surge]

idk how u would mod that in

[digital mural]

Yes, it's fine

As long as it doesn't CHANGE gameplay it's fine

[dawn charm]

🤷‍♂️ idk either I just thought that'd be a cool cosmetic

[digital mural]

There is custom cosmetics mods

So

[dawn charm]

Maybe it'd help my teammates be more aware of my positioning? Idk

[urban surge]

it wont u will still get shot

[dawn charm]

No no like syncing

[digital mural]

They can see your name tag and silluete

That's already enough

[dawn charm]

I threw it out as a guess

It wasnt a bold claim I promise

[urban surge]

also they would also need the mod in most cases if it has custom thing added

[dawn charm]

The key words were "idk" ;-;

[digital mural]

Nope

Not really

[urban surge]

huh

[digital mural]

Some cosmetic mods can work one way

The only mods that really need everyone to have them is rundowns, custom weapons and stuff like that

[dawn charm]

That's cool

I think the only gameplay changing mod I'd possibly be interested in is the THX Scout one. (I'm not saying I'll do it, just that it's funny)

Even then that doesn't seem very gameplay changing to me

[urban surge]

im glad my humble mod of funny melee - parts are randomly swapped, like bat with maul head etc with no stat changes + swapped sights on gun is alright to use :3

[dawn charm]

I'm glad you're glad 👍

[digital mural]

I'm so glad the glad person is glad because sleepy is glad

[urban surge]

yippee

[dawn charm]

I'm glad you're glad that I'm glad that she's glad 😌

[grizzled patrol]

Tm8s wont See it. For them you will be Just running without a mask. If you Mod a Torso it will be literally invisible so tm8s will be more Likely to Shoot you accidentally

[dawn charm]

Oof, okay. Is there a mod that unlocks base cosmetics instead?

[grizzled patrol]

Yeah devious lick or allvanity

[dawn charm]

And they'll be visible right?

[grizzled patrol]

Yeah

[dawn charm]

And no corrupted anything?

[grizzled patrol]

ive been running devious lick and nothing happened so far. But be Always cautious with mods

[dawn charm]

Well, guess I get to go watch a tutorial now. Haven't modded anything since Stardew

[dawn charm]

Thank you btw

[urban surge]

AllVanity works v well

plus its made by my friend so ill find any excuse to advertise her work so more people bully her to finally release Archive to thunderstore after 1.5 years of no updates

[tardy ingot]

Archive will get released when Hide and Seek gets releases surely

[urban surge]

huge if true (so never)

[tardy ingot]

we will bully her >:D

(In a friendly manner)

[urban surge]

if u want to make mod urself, good luck, its a nightmare, thx to unity engine jank
if u want to just install couple mods, download r2modman, launch it, find gtfo, and click install on anything u see interesting, just like u would mod lethal company or something

[fathom ice]

who made archive again

auri?

[urban surge]

aurirex

ye

[fathom ice]

checks out

[urban surge]

the best mods never get released, doomed to have only slop

[ripe hamlet]

the best mod is the friend we made along the way

[urban surge]

real (i need to replay r7e1 i miss pablo)

granted i need to replay all r7, i dont remember it at all

[fathom ice]

lowkey r7 has like one good level imo

[urban surge]

i mean ye

and its r7b2 :3

[fathom ice]

💀

[urban surge]

/j

[prime musk]

this person clearly hasn't heard about r7b3

[fathom ice]

zed why are you awake

[prime musk]

what do you mean

im going to bed in like 1 or 2 hours

[fathom ice]

checks out

[prime musk]

are we running later

[fathom ice]

idk

same time as usual if i'd had to guess

[frail heart]

are you guys doing e2?

[prime musk]

probably

i think the times we actually want to improve are 5 and 8

2 is definitely the least pushed

but neither of us really wants to run it much i think

[sturdy glen]

has anyone tried scatter + bc for e2 duo yet

[prime musk]

i have ran it over pen a couple of times but never got a completion

[frail heart]

hmmm

[prime musk]

beth played bc a bit with hani too

[frail heart]

that'd be super sus

for first nm6

[prime musk]

the issue you run into is that bc doesn't give you any timesave outside of kraken really and is way harder to play

ammo is tighter too

[prime musk]

it's honestly fine if you make no mistakes that force you to shoot and get all ammo but 2

[sturdy glen]

I think it gives you timesave pretty much everywhere ngl

[prime musk]

not really but maybe im playing it badly

[frail heart]

yes!

[prime musk]

like reactor is reactor

it's timegated anyways and bc doesn't really get codes faster

it only makes you whiff scout kill in code 1

pmom is 1birth anyways

where is the timesave

[errant dome]

we did get a clear with bc scatter no?

[frail heart]

better for scouts

[errant dome]

or am i going insane

[prime musk]

oh maybe we did

[frail heart]

also it saves a lot on kraken

if you CAN run it you probably should

[fathom ice]

bc felt like it's lowkey harder to play

and like it's already pretty rough

[prime musk]

it's scatter that pushes anyways, other player stays behind to loot and get time etc

[fathom ice]

it is a route we should do tho prob

[frail heart]

fair

[errant dome]

im like 90% sure we got at least 1 clear with bc scatter, idr the exact clear time tho

[frail heart]

kraken is the big thing

[errant dome]

i think it was around 1:10

[frail heart]

guys just take sniper

[fathom ice]

ur best is 1:20

and it was bc yes

[errant dome]

i dont have the screenshots saved so idr tbh

[fathom ice]

it's either 1:24 or 1:20

it's been a while

[prime musk]

you don't save that much unfortunately

like

[errant dome]

maybe

[frail heart]

i mean

you do

[sturdy glen]

im ngl I havent watched your guys current pb so idk

[frail heart]

over hel rifle

[prime musk]

how much

[sturdy glen]

I should but I figure you guys do better soon no

?

[fathom ice]

prob yea

it's nothing interesting anyway

[frail heart]

you also save ammo

[prime musk]

i did the math and i believe bc has like 50% higher precision dps

[sturdy glen]

either way im judging off of 4 man and solo discussion

[fathom ice]

it's literally normal route except fast

[sturdy glen]

BC is kinda just the answer to a lot of stuff

[prime musk]

so you save a 3rd

a third of tumor up time

which is like a 5th of the time anyways or something

[frail heart]

im gonna time rq

[fathom ice]

bc saves a minute and a half prob on kraken

[prime musk]

ye if it's significant i might force bc

[fathom ice]

hel rifle is just soo slow

[sturdy glen]

what route you guys use

its cancel/tp mwp right

[fathom ice]

literally normal route

yes

[sturdy glen]

thats not normal route lol

[fathom ice]

well normal pub route idk

not a speed route basically

[errant dome]

i think you have to, i dont think bc has enough ammo for 2nd class 6 realistically

[fathom ice]

although we should do at least nm6 during reactor

ohhh

[sturdy glen]

I think at best

you do up to last S

[fathom ice]

we should leave the last nm6 scan

yeah

[sturdy glen]

pmom prolly too scary yea

could do uhh

[fathom ice]

we killed it in kds last time

[sturdy glen]

A of shadow pull into clearing the small room next to it

and using door to kill pmom

cuz you wont have wave

[fathom ice]

ure usually pretty dry

after w3

[sturdy glen]

how

[fathom ice]

cuz u need to kill like 3 tanks and shit ton of nightmares?

or well not dry but we don't carry any res

so we wanna hop in kds for a quick ammo grab

[sturdy glen]

idk grab kds yea

you need to do teamscan anyways

[fathom ice]

yeah and we kill pmom there

[sturdy glen]

someone can move mwp during

how risky do you guys play ending

do you send scatter full back?

[fathom ice]

after 3 tumors

yeah

[sturdy glen]

based

[prime musk]

well that's the strat

we didn't get to do it in the 1:11

[fathom ice]

byeah

[fathom ice]

wdym

[prime musk]

are you forgoring

you downed

leaving kraken

[fathom ice]

oh

listen

[sturdy glen]

pub down

[fathom ice]

being on 20 and insta leaving

[sturdy glen]

!!

[prime musk]

i was trying to not say that you died leaving kraken

[fathom ice]

is just a death

I couldn't do much

[prime musk]

you could have

not left instantly

[fathom ice]

that's a time loss !

besides that he can ignore and shoot 2 reds

and it's just bad

[sturdy glen]

sidenote

I think you might be forced to leave 2 big S maybe

if you do cancel during wave 1

ig its prolly worth to dig into code 2 time a bit

for 1 more S

and then just do wave 3 normally

[prime musk]

ye you aren't struggling to fetch code 2 anyways

[fathom ice]

prob

[errant dome]

isnt the 5th S stupidly long tho

[frail heart]

hmm

[sturdy glen]

would help with making sure there isnt stuck shit too

if you stay on longer

[prime musk]

spending a minute of that in scan is a minute you'd have to spend later anyways

[fathom ice]

u have enough leeway

[prime musk]

team

the last 2 S scans are same length

[fathom ice]

yes

conclusion

soon TM

[sturdy glen]

yeah its probably cancel during code 1 -> plug -> do up to last S -> get code 2 -> do wave/code 3 normal -> kds team scan loot ammo (maybe have 1 person loot 1 person move mwp?) -> finish scan -> open door and kill A -> get in the big door asap and use it to kill pmom

could be p epic

[errant dome]

i dont think u need 2 move mwp if scatter is going back early on kraken

[fathom ice]

I lowkey think u loot while killing pmom

[errant dome]

can just move it then

[fathom ice]

and u get to move too since she's not pushing

even if she does anyone just kills birth with sawed off

and u get to run into shadows and insta pull

[errant dome]

if u get scream client scatter can solo kill without birth anyways

[fathom ice]

yea that too

[prime musk]

might even be worth playing for

scatter waits at kds door

for scream

while other player loots and feeds

[fathom ice]

I think u just kill birth every time ngl

like ure scatter player

she screams far u run out

you can't cross to her in time

and if ur staying next to door she's almost guaranteed to be far

unless she's aggroed on the other player and he's far

[sturdy glen]

this is why I am suggesting a door kill strat

ppl rly dont abuse door kills enough

it does literally all the work for you

[fathom ice]

can u kill on door open?

without scream

[prime musk]

with bc scatter probably

[sturdy glen]

1 person dumping sawed off 1 dumping scatter staggers

easily

2 sawed off + 2 scatters is a stagger

[errant dome]

my only issue with that is that ive had pmom birth a few times thro door (i assume her head peaked into the room and she saw me and it counted as LOS)

[prime musk]

you have to assume that doesn't happen

[errant dome]

but idk if im just unlucky

[fathom ice]

u blame the game and restart

[errant dome]

i have no idea how common it is

[sturdy glen]

you have an undamaged door

should never happen here

• you can shoot bottom tumors while its opening and your time to stagger is under a second

[fathom ice]

we'll figure it out

[sturdy glen]

ea, I might try it out at some point if I feel like getting ray on it

as much as I like duoing with tru the ping is kinda unbearable for trying to do anything cool

[frail heart]

Hel rifle: 6:44
BC: 5:42
Starts on command input, infinite ammo, insta shooting all tumors

@prime musk

[prime musk]

you save 1 minute

idk

idt that's worth it

[frail heart]

its a free 1 minute

[prime musk]

frosty

it's """free"""

because you have to clear everything else which is now harder to shoot

[frail heart]

that isnt a time loss tho

harder != time loss

[sturdy glen]

I feel like thats also just not fully true

[prime musk]

no but it's a bump in the difficulty

[frail heart]

i think the only thing actually harder to shoot is nm6

[prime musk]

and the run is already really rought

[sturdy glen]

BC is not significantly worse for nightmares than hel rifle unless youre shooting insanely

its way better for bosses

random giants

which are what youre going to get during reactor

its better for code 1

[prime musk]

part of the issue chill

is that it's tighter on ammo

like you're playing for fast plug and you are basically working with reactor ammo for entire reactor

[sturdy glen]

im ngl

I would go check how the hel rifle gameplay looks in the run rn

but youre not doing the full route yet so thats kinda pointless

so I will just leave it at

I have a suspicion with the full strats being ran, hel rifle is not going to be largely more efficient than bc

(besides nm6 obv)

[prime musk]

for wave 3 hel rifle is big because you get to pen basically everything except the bosses
for wave 2 bc probably better
for wave 1 i think hel rifle is nicer at least, even if it is slower in getting code

[uneven kiln]

Are the Cells in R8C2 static? particularly the Z277 one

[tardy ingot]

277 „yes“
The others no

but theres not much variance

[uneven kiln]

thank you

[fluid heath]

What is the point of the burst cannon when the scattergun exists?

I see people talk highly about it often but I don't know what makes it special

[little pilot]

range

the main advantage of burst cannon remains range, it does indeed get outshined in almost every other situation, however in some levels it can be considerably better. We have some levels where it is considered optimal to take like 2 scatters and 1 burst cannon, or triple waveclear + burst cannon

r1c1 would probably be best example: burst cannon can invalidate giants and hybrids at range before they become a problem

on the other hand scatter kinda sucks since u gotta get close and personal

Also another thing: burst cannon is found more enjoyable by certain people. The reality is it is a gun which requires far more skill to use at its full potential. On the other hand scatter is kinda just... left click and that general direction gets deleted

[fluid heath]

When does the damage fall-off on the burst cannon start?

[grizzled patrol]

i love it for being a more flexible hel gun

tripple kills with one burst require more skill, but are so satisfying

if only it still had the 5x burst

[grizzled patrol]

on paper 15 meters

on practice it falls bellow 20 damage at 20 meters

[fluid heath]

I see

Well thank you both for your replies

Might have to play around with it more

[minor fractal]

It does best on levels w/ a lot of ammo to work with

[ocean lance]

does bioscan speed cap btw?

on full team i mean

[prime musk]

it shouldn't, but it has diminishing returns

[ocean lance]

fair

[burnt inlet]

I’ve used hel rifle/scatter too much, burst feels like a 5 second delay I can’t deal with it

[grizzled patrol]

I remember Hearing about it capping at 60% per player

Been a while tho and i was listening with only one ear open

[prime musk]

well, the max you can stack on 1 player is 60%

or 61%

[sudden nexus]

as in hard cap or the most you can possibly get with boosters

[prime musk]

most you can get with boostesrs

18 muted 18 bold 25 aggressive

[spice stirrup]

Anyone have a good Duo loadout suggestion for R8B4? Last section on this attempt was a pain with our loadout and not sure what to try next

[prime musk]

probably just 2x sawed off hel rifle or hel gun

[sudden nexus]

the duo loadout

[sour jolt]

im from vietnam and was wondering about pings and stuffs cuz i wanna play with everybody too

[static kestrel]

@prime musk bro i dont get it

i keep getting to the same part as before

i clear class 3, blood door, class 6, but after the class 6 i dont have anything else

like i legit searched the whole zone while running from the error waves with 0 ammo

i only found meds

am i just unlucky?? like what am i doing wrong here

(its r3d1 solo no bots for reference if any1 else reading)

should i just be running it down with knife WAY more?? like jus be less weary of my hp?? i feel like im shooting TOO much so i dont have ammo later and like i was in a position where i couldnt run down the infection zone cuz there was a striker wave on me prior to opening to door so i wouldnt b able to carry the baby far

(i also didnt take the baby that time cuz i forgot so tbh i was prob doomed no matter what lol)

[digital mural]

Game is Peer to Peer

The host acts like the server

As long as you and the host has a stable internet it will be fine

[sour jolt]

noice, so its like l4d right?

[digital mural]

Yep

[sour jolt]

ty

[frail heart]

ngl you just arent finding ammo

that level has TOO much

but yeah, use your knife more

theres no reason to shoot error waves unless you are losing health

[static kestrel]

im like deemed by god to be super unlucky

i swear i am super unlucky in everything i do

ofc not knowing where all the boxes and lockers can be yet contributes, but legit i ran through so many rooms and zones to only find 2 use med packs it was crazy

but it happens ig, use my knife more

noted

[ocean spindle]

do u know the usual spawns for lockers/boxes?

if not u shoould like run it a couple times with bots to learn cuz theres some spots where thers almost always a box

[static kestrel]

well i duo'd it with the dude i pinged and thats like all my experience of it lol

[ocean spindle]

yeah u should, do a couple more runs

if u can

knowin a level top to bottom helps a lot

[sudden nexus]

are you going into plug zone

in between zone has not a lot

just go to plug room

[static kestrel]

i cant make it to plug room

cuz when i finish the alarm every time im fighting the alarm wave

but then im outta stuff

so i just get cooked

[grizzled patrol]

Pug Zone my beloved

[sudden nexus]

you really don't have to fight in inbetween zone a lot

[grizzled patrol]

Just dont fight it 4head

[sudden nexus]

like one or two waves max

[bitter thicket]

not sure if this should go here or not, but are there no extra character dialogue interaction after playing one of their character logs from ALT:// R5 A2/3? I got so excited at the prospect and then when I got to it nothing happened 😔

[ocean spindle]

not anymore unless u have a mod i believe

same for other dialogues in rundown 6

the only sort of those dialogues come in r8 the rest don't happen anymore

[grizzled patrol]

They broke it in Alt

[bitter thicket]

DANGG I see…. Thank yall 😭

[ocean lance]

who was crashing out here

[prime musk]

if you're starting alarm full with 4 or 5 ammo and you run out you're just being forced off scans/not sticking scans nearly enough

[ocean lance]

oh kin

duo'd with the dude I pinged

💀

wait is he playing sentry

[prime musk]

yeah

[ocean lance]

even with mines I never had to melee anything

with sentry even less

but I guess if you go slower

[prime musk]

he's playing bc which is tighter on ammo than hel rifle

[ocean lance]

You're getting more enemies

[prime musk]

but still

[ocean lance]

it really isn't an issue with sentry

like it's so free if it's full

[static kestrel]

not funny

i feel insulted

[ocean lance]

my run has BC in it if you wanna see

[static kestrel]

i was running bc sawed off

cuz idk what else to run

[ocean lance]

that's what I run

and I got a 30 so

it's not bad lol

[prime musk]

the 3 options are like
bc hel rifle hel gun

[sudden nexus]

horrible

[ocean lance]

https://youtu.be/mrLj2KqbjRI?si=unz-AEomLKnnXGNQ

@static kestrel

[ocean lance]

I agree

[fathom ice]

WRONG

[prime musk]

sorry

[ocean lance]

high cal is missing ngl

[static kestrel]

yo hold on gang

[prime musk]

you can play revo

[fathom ice]

forgetting about my high cal

and revo

[prime musk]

and high cal

[fathom ice]

smh

[ocean lance]

so true

[static kestrel]

you started off by just pulling the zone 389 door??

was that just a lucky gamble??

[prime musk]

bbut like for first clear and making it as easy as possible

[sudden nexus]

bp

[prime musk]

logs

we know exact box of key before we drop

[ocean lance]

don't do what I do I'm speedrunning you're going for a clear

[static kestrel]

what

how

[ocean lance]

it's just an example on how to play BC

[static kestrel]

oh ok noted

[prime musk]

we read the game logs and use premade keymaps that show what key id corresponds to what box

[ocean lance]

I have a sentry clear with BC aswell but thsts like a really bad one

but you can probably relate to that gameplay more ngl

[static kestrel]

r u calling me bad lol

[ocean lance]

yes

compared to me yeah

[static kestrel]

id sure hope so considering my lack of experience

[prime musk]

the skill ceiling is pretty high

[ocean lance]

I know that's why I'm suggesting watching an easier clear

[grizzled patrol]

lakana the toxic vet? unreal

[ocean lance]

my first clear on my channel is my first solo clear so you'd relate

[ocean lance]

I'm just being honest he asked a question why should I lie LOL

[static kestrel]

cuz then i fell better

duh

[ocean lance]

well no point cause you wouldn't get better at the game then

which I suppose is what you want

[static kestrel]

ig ur right

[prime musk]

https://youtu.be/WN3DAXp40Ao here's my AWFUL first clear with bc + sentry you can use as an even worse reference
don't ask about the clear time it's really bad

fuck wait

[ocean lance]

I'm not gonna tell you you're good when you have thousands of hours less than us lol

[static kestrel]

yeah but i dont need to hear that im BAD

[grizzled patrol]

just saw you have valorant tracker. now it all makes sense

[prime musk]

corrected link

[static kestrel]

i wanna hear what i needa be doin to win

[static kestrel]

im being held at gunpoint

[ocean lance]

you asked if you're bad.

[ocean lance]

watch videos

[undone raven]

Dont stick scans always, play for life, take ur time

[ocean lance]

^

clears do this

[fathom ice]

another clear for reference ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agvfICBb4M8&t=2s

[prime musk]

lakana

[ocean lance]

huge!

[prime musk]

bad in comparison to like

some of the best players

doesn't mean bad

[ocean lance]

okay yeah

[prime musk]

they're fine

[static kestrel]

man this the most ive ever watched vids lol

[ocean lance]

I forget my perception of skill is getting skewed the more I stay here

[static kestrel]

i used to watch this one dudes channel

like 900 subs i still watch him

hinoki

[grizzled patrol]

i guess i have to throw a link in aswell https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=wHBPgImU41GJBqTz

[static kestrel]

hes dope

[ocean lance]

I apologize like truly, you ain't bad, you're average @static kestrel

[fathom ice]

i know that one

[undone raven]

Long kite jumpscare

[ocean lance]

hinoki is not the standard anymore ngl

[static kestrel]

bro its cool im jus teasing

[prime musk]

hinoki is kinda the standard still

[ocean lance]

hinoki sucks ass

[prime musk]

you have not seen enough gameplay by them

[ocean lance]

man go back to going long

[prime musk]

their solos are not up to standard to some degree these days

[static kestrel]

bro thats my goat

[prime musk]

but their modded gameplay shows that they're cracked

[undone raven]

I wouldnt say that, they just play EXTREMELY safe

[ocean lance]

ITS MODDED

[static kestrel]

but yeah his vids old now

what

[fathom ice]

morning lakana crashout

[ocean lance]

team am I stupid

why are we talking about skill

[prime musk]

idk lakana when hinoki needs to lock in he games out

[ocean lance]

about modded gameplay

[fathom ice]

pve game

[burnt inlet]

Lakana come sleep with me

[fathom ice]

??????

[prime musk]

sus

[ocean lance]

wtf.

[fathom ice]

sus

[ocean lance]

hold on what

[static kestrel]

ayo

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-speed-running message

[ocean lance]

alright that's my time to check out

[ocean lance]

I never said that

[fathom ice]

bai

[burnt inlet]

You started it🤷‍♂️

[prime musk]

he's checking out

[ocean lance]

before I go

[burnt inlet]

Wonder who he is

[ocean lance]

3d1 solo burst cannon is better than hel rifle

it's canon cause I got a better time

peace

[prime musk]

so far

[ocean lance]

zed I secretly already have a sub 29

I just haven't posted it yet

[prime musk]

you've ran like 10x as much as me

[ocean lance]

only to crush your dreams

[fathom ice]

r3d1 addicts

[native sun]

Choke mod....

[fathom ice]

HAHAH

[ocean lance]

ALRIGHT

LMAOO

[prime musk]

when will tru be representing the choke mod in sub 30 r3d1 solo comp...

[ocean lance]

okay hear me out

[static kestrel]

yo so hold on

[ocean lance]

3d1 solo comp but you have to play choke mod

thoughts

[static kestrel]

one of these days can i jus stream it

and yall just tell me what im doing wrong

[ocean lance]

record it, post it on yt

[native sun]

I did a few hours of tries one day, had a sub 30 pace going into chargers

[ocean lance]

and we'll do a watch party

[prime musk]

^

[ocean lance]

on chills stream

[fathom ice]

woah

[prime musk]

maybe not on chills stream

[ocean lance]

DAMN

[native sun]

Pub review!!!

[ocean lance]

letsgooo

[fathom ice]

we need a pub review option

for channel points

[prime musk]

wait does anyone have enough channel points to make beth do the pub review

[ocean lance]

40k channel points that I stole from Tim for kin pub review

thoughts

[fathom ice]

it's like free no

[ocean lance]

if its50k yeah

[static kestrel]

i can do that 2

[burnt inlet]

All GTFO streamers have to have it

[static kestrel]

or twitch stream

[ocean lance]

he's right

[prime musk]

record and post

[ocean lance]

thsts too much of a commitment

record and post

[prime musk]

we can vod review in hybrid or something

[ocean lance]

we do not want to be bound on your schedule

[fathom ice]

pub review on beths stream is

drum roll

1k channel points !

[ocean lance]

huh

I have no clue how much I have then

[prime musk]

avg session
you get one or two attempts into chargers and then either die or lose pace to charger scout rng

[ocean lance]

oh i have 20k

[static kestrel]

im free a lot

[fathom ice]

20 pub reviews

[ocean lance]

man do I have to start running again cause you mf want to steal my record

[static kestrel]

itd prob be more of me waiting on yall

[ocean lance]

I hate you all

[prime musk]

it's a timezone thing probably

[static kestrel]

prob

ill just text in here randomly at some point either tomorrow or later

[sudden nexus]

toxic lakana ♥♥♥

[pure lodge]

In r1b1 theres like rooms with a bunch of giant and giant shooters, is it possible to stealth them? When theres like 2 of em close to each other with 2 people

[prime musk]

with only 2 people it's hard but possible

you can solo melee a giant stealthily

so 2 ppl can take 2 giants silently

but it's going to be hard and/or inconsistent

[pure lodge]

oo

Would spears be the most ideal

[runic roost]

Stealthing that (zone) room is the time equivalent of doing that entire level again

[fathom ice]

low-key yes

[pure lodge]

Yea but its like after a certain door there is at least 4 giants in every room

[prime musk]

hammer is good but spear keeps you out of melee range

hammer is generally stronger

[runic roost]

Big bang

[pure lodge]

And my friend and i just resort to gunning

[runic roost]

That would be the much easier way imo