gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

:[

cries

the levls i wrote i use the potato so much

[tardy ingot]

Theres such a good spot for potato where it currently spawns hybrids and bbcs :|

[ocean spindle]

like every 2 levels theres one ksmkdm

[tardy ingot]

Potato on reactors

with hybrids

[ocean spindle]

i had such a good room idea
u find a sleeping tank asidee of a sleeping potato

and the next door is an alarm

and the room is a bridge so no coveer whatsoever pretty much

so u need to decide like what to u kill first and how

:D

[ocean spindle]

i also did that

but with a wave of flyers

[prime musk]

3 scatters just kill entire room instantly

idk

[ocean spindle]

theres more level and 3 scatters would be not good

for what i wrotee

[fathom ice]

what room

[prime musk]

a room with sleeping potat and tank

[ocean spindle]

my dream room ✨

[prime musk]

it doesn't matter what you have written 3 scatter clears

genuinely

[ocean spindle]

i nerfed scvatter

[prime musk]

ouh

[digital mural]

Why are we bullying the potato man?

[ocean spindle]

i think sometimes ksks

im not making a rundown and leavin thee scatter as is

it would break my levels

[tardy ingot]

Make this wave:

2 potatoes
4 hybrids
10 shooters
2 chicken
2 infection chicken
10 flyers

[ocean spindle]

not bullying praising

[ocean spindle]

ITS LIKE A B TIER

[fathom ice]

there's no such room

[ocean spindle]

u know actually i could just like send u what i wrote kmskdm

[tardy ingot]

What are you trying to saytho

That it clears = bad?

Cuz then r8e2 is bad

Cuz scatter clears

[prime musk]

??

no my point is that the room isn't interesting because you just instantly kill 0 threat with 3 scatter

and that "rest of level" is irrelevant because 3 scatter is viable

[tardy ingot]

R8A2sec = isnt interesting then

[frail heart]

Guys every stealth room should have a Pablo

[tardy ingot]

its just such a bad argument for level design

[fathom ice]

zed

[tardy ingot]

is 99% of gtfo not interesting because scatter clears

[fathom ice]

u should quit scatter slop

imma be honest

[prime musk]

true

[fathom ice]

play samdown !

[tiny wyvern]

What's a scatter?
It is like scaler?

[frail heart]

Hop on sniper

[tardy ingot]

Youd never win

Stealth is the enemy of all vets

[ocean spindle]

gonna mod ur game give scatter 120 dmg and 0.66 prec dmg

and 3.1 seconds of reeload

[prime musk]

this is not my point either
the room in question isn't interesting because the strategy or play isn't interesting, it's stand behind enemy and shoot

[frail heart]

Hop on pub down scatter

[tiny wyvern]

Is it bad that I use machine pistol for tank aggro

[ocean spindle]

actually now i wonderr i dont remember how i nerfd scaatter i know i lowered the dmg but

[tiny wyvern]

Unironically

[ocean spindle]

im gonna cheeck

[tardy ingot]

idk about sleeping

But theres a blooddoor in occlusion with tank and 2 potatoes

Genuinely rly fun fight

[ocean spindle]

no its the best option

if u just wanna geet the aggro

[ocean spindle]

Scattergun

• Decreased damage [136]
• Decreased precision damage [x0.63]
• Lowered reload speed [2.8]
• Lowered flashlight range

hum

[prime musk]

flashlight nerf is cruel

[crystal blaze]

Why would you do that?

[ocean spindle]

it doesnt deserve it

[crystal blaze]

Scattergun is the best gun

:(

[ocean spindle]

revo needs the good flashlight

not the scatteer

i also nerfed the pdw flashlight but cuz i made it a

fucking

weird thing kdsmkms

[prime musk]

if revo gets good flashlight your mod has my blessings

[digital mural]

Wait

Are you actually making modded rundowns now?

[ocean spindle]

PDW

• Decreased reload cancel
• Increase damage [3.2]
• Slightly Increased recoil
• Lowered hipfire accuracy
• Reduced mag size [25]
• Reduced light range

the funny

[ocean spindle]

i wrorte like 14 15 levels

i just have no way to make them

:D

[digital mural]

Damn

[ocean spindle]

i like my pdw changes i basically did whaat it was meant to be

an uncontrollable shaky killing machinee

[digital mural]

Hm

PDWs are hella acurrate tho

[ocean spindle]

as in irl or

in gtfo

[digital mural]

irl

Guns are way way more accurate than videogames

[prime musk]

slendo can you give pdw 1x precision instead of increased dmg

[ocean spindle]

... i mean the issue is im gonna aument the recoil by like 700x

so its gonna be like genuinely hard to aim for the head

[digital mural]

B r u h

[ocean spindle]

i mean obvs but its my stats :3

[digital mural]

The Warden did not gave maintenance to the weapons

[ocean spindle]

nopi

pdw is the goblin mode

[patent mulch]

w + m1

[uneven kiln]

the scattergun has no reason to have a stronger flashlight than the Buckland S870 shotgun in the same category tbh

[undone raven]

whats the mod called that fixes host scatter?

[uneven kiln]

none, unless you mean granting the host a client delay advantage

[undone raven]

i swear that was real smh

[fathom ice]

u can make it worse !

just get dead body fix !

[ocean spindle]

was the game that made scatter just as good when host or was a mod?

no wait im mixing things up it was the sniper and it was a 2 day updat

nevermind

[grizzled patrol]

Its the Same as the one on Choke, so i guess there is a Bit of sense

[uneven kiln]

the choke has more range

[ocean spindle]

i mean not rlly arent they different compaanies

[grizzled patrol]

Idk who manufactures flashlights

[ocean spindle]

i mean i would think the company itself but they dont even withing the samee companies use the same one so

idk scattergun should have the bad light

[grizzled patrol]

Tbh CS and Pump are the only ones with a Bad flashlight

Literally every other one Has a good one

Even sawed off

[sudden nexus]

sawed off 🤤

[ocean spindle]

revo

[grizzled patrol]

Shotgun

[ocean spindle]

or do u mean like shotguns in general

ah then yes but hel shottie should also have the bad light

[digital mural]

what does bad light even mean

[grizzled patrol]

Shorter light

[ocean spindle]

the yellow one

[digital mural]

aaaah

[grizzled patrol]

Bad ones light Up 8 Meters Out. The best 20

[digital mural]

yeah i know what you are talking about now

Tbh I don't think it's that bad

[grizzled patrol]

I mean Bad is a strong Word. But it sucks when you Shine at a spitter and its too weak to stun it

[ocean spindle]

i mean its shorter than the base

[digital mural]

How strong is melee flashlight?

Or normal flashlight

Idk how to call it

[ocean spindle]

i thinkkkk 10 m?

[[Flashlight]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Flashlight

[digital mural]

Foam the spitter duh

[ocean spindle]

11

11 meters

[digital mural]

Oh yeah shotgun fs is bad

[grizzled patrol]

Just enjoy the Golden Green shower

[digital mural]

What the fuck

Thats auto modded?

Wild

[granite flume]

What’s something I can follow to know all the rundowns with lore logs?

[digital mural]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/

[granite flume]

This isn’t R34 of Scout right?

[sudden nexus]

no

do you want some

[granite flume]

no

do you have some?

[sudden nexus]

why are you asking

[wet bear]

We all have some

[granite flume]

Why are you offering

[wet bear]

I've see with a tank and anime girl

[granite flume]

We do?

[sudden nexus]

😨

tank bodypillow when

[granite flume]

[frail heart]

Oh no please don’t send it in DMs please don’t do that

[granite flume]

Idk what a tank is

Is that GTFO or diff game?

[granite flume]

Crazy work

[wet bear]

Dw I don't have a link to it

[digital mural]

Thats an enemy in the game

[granite flume]

o

[wet bear]

But you can search pixiv for that iirc

[granite flume]

…

[digital mural]

One of it's mini-bosses

[granite flume]

Mother?

[digital mural]

Mini boss

[granite flume]

MiIf?

[wet bear]

Mother is mother

[digital mural]

GTFO only has 2 actual bosses

[wet bear]

Tank is a tank

[digital mural]

And 4 bossfights

[sudden nexus]

3*

[granite flume]

Woah woah woah

Too much info

[sudden nexus]

you forgot unpinged baby

[granite flume]

[sudden nexus]

[digital mural]

[granite flume]

DORITO BABY

[ocean spindle]

[granite flume]

oh and thanks for this

[dusty basalt]

Can spear or hammer always break limb from front on big striker?

If so, what % charge?

[fathom ice]

just full charge

back is like 60%

[dusty basalt]

with both or just hammer?

[civic wave]

limb hp on giant is 15
melee damage is 17.5 (spear) and 20 (hammer) when full charged

[dusty basalt]

Since the spear also has a precision bonus, does it do more damage than the knife on a fully charged occiput attack?

[ocean spindle]

yes, it does the most damage

[dusty basalt]

thanks

[ocean spindle]

only on that hit tho and i believe it doesnt change the total amoiunt of hits needed

one occi two back

for spears and hammers at least

[sudden nexus]

or use desync to double occy

[ocean spindle]

me ordering bot woods to hit the occiput in sync with me

[sudden nexus]

💀

woods could not

hackett tho

[ocean spindle]

why do u doubt the man that literally has the power of precognition

[sudden nexus]

don't like him

host 🤢

[hoary horizon]

I noticed something to do with how I stealth

When I play solo or duos I am so chill and relaxed with my stealth just getting casual multi kills etc

Then I play w 3-4 players and I’m screwing up stealth and is really cautious with stealth

Tbf I have a teammate who SCREAMS me to crouch and turn off my flashlight

😭 he forced me to switch to toggle crouch for that session

[civic wave]

what a weirdo

[hoary horizon]

I love the guy but I think he just hates having time wasted so whenever stealth occurs he takes it seriously

[safe cradle]

As a small note: I'm a lot more careful when hosting because I know what I see is that happens rather than having to ponder if I'm looking at the past

[safe cradle]

Forcing people is bad, that said Toggle Crouch is IMHO the way to go

[digital mural]

fast stealth then :)

all 4 of you
melees in hand

[hoary horizon]

I think he would go into cardiac arrest from fear

2 of us know decent fast stealth

The other 2 are not confident enough in it

[civic wave]

Breaking news: man scared of aeroplane travel, thinks car travel is safer

[hoary horizon]

He was just cautious of me letting go of crouch when trying to walk around

[tardy ingot]

Well you gotta get the confidence from somewhere

„Crouch! Flashlights off!“ is endearing and works when new. But its not the best habit

[hoary horizon]

I was playing a duo session just today and my friend was like “crouch flashlights off!” Before we just walked with our flashlights on clearing the room

[safe cradle]

There's another reason why toggle crouch is better

and it's that the act of crouching makes noise

[hoary horizon]

I prefer it off because it feels better when pressing the key

[wheat gate]

toggle crouch makes slide running easier so

[hoary horizon]

I’ve always found it easier with toggle crouch off

[tardy ingot]

slide running barely does anything for 99,999% of situations anyway lol

[hoary horizon]

There is a placebo effect cause it feels like I’m going faster

[little pilot]

Technically it can be faster to use toggle crouch off because u have better control of how long the crouch animation is. This means u can squeeze another crouch prior to a jump. But this barely has an effect in speedruns, in normal gameplay the effect is 0.

[wheat gate]

well slide running lets u run like, maybe 30% further before having to walk

[upbeat epoch]

Do you guys know how much damage is needed to break the limbs of strikers?

[tardy ingot]

no lol

[grizzled patrol]

10

[wheat gate]

u can break limbs on normal strikers??

i dont remember seeing that ever

only head

[grizzled patrol]

you can. its just not worth it

[past mesa]

Limb stagger

Is good still

[grizzled patrol]

yeah not completely useless, just less reliable than just staggering normally

[torn verge]

Hi everyone. If I may ask. Anyone knows how to fix this issue?

"You need to have an online connection to be able to play GTFO"
"Please connect to the internet and restart the game"

[tiny wyvern]

#1049599987878723635

[stuck ravine]

does slide running really not conserve that much stamina?

it feels like when i do it, i can cross the whole map without my heartrate going up

yet still running the same speed as other ppl

[ocean spindle]

it does in vey

very small quantities

is more to just fidget

[hard nexus]

good habit if u ever pick up darktide

[tardy ingot]

For every 30 seconds you run you will be „about“ 1 second faster

With optimal stam management

[prime musk]

i think their point is that the distance covered per stam feels better, even if it isn't necessarily faster

[tardy ingot]

peoples perception is just biased tho

[prime musk]

yeah but is this the case or not

how much stamina you spend per distance is different from how much faster you are

[tardy ingot]

the reason I say time/distance over stamina spend/distance

is that the first is way easier to understand and test

the stam difference isnt massive is the point

If it were youd gain more time

[ocean lance]

r4b2

we dont put cells in right?

[prime musk]

is this a genuine question

[ocean lance]

nah

i got tilted

by pub

idk why i even argue

[tiny wyvern]

Just let them plug one in and see what happens tbh

(If you have bio anyways)

(If you don't try your best to prepare for a wipe, not that it'll help much)

[ocean lance]

i dont have bio

and i had to do a 3 man down twice

i rather not talk

i just told them w/e plug them in

and they didnt

we put all cells in and i said

"see how the fog moves"

and they said "yep"

lol

[blazing prairie]

(this is after double ammopacking themselves when we're on <100% between all 8 of our guns and shooting me down)

actually so miserable

[ocean lance]

yeah cause i don't trust you all

don't let me pull up replay mod

i was just ranting, dont mind it, mb

[prime musk]

team if they complain in gtfo chat 2 about the pub i think they're fine

[ocean lance]

zed i'm the one being complained

LOL

[native sun]

I think complaining about players is, in general, not the thing to do in this channel

[ocean lance]

yeah that's mb

iwas just asking about the generators cause i genuinly thought i was wrong for a moment

[native sun]

If there's a serious complaint about a player's conduct please send it along to @uneven gulch

[safe cradle]

If you put cells in R4B2's ASAP what happens is that fog goes into Overload (as in, actually into the bulkhead IIRC)

[ocean lance]

yeah cause fog moves no?

[safe cradle]

yeah

so it's detrimental

VERY detrimental

[ocean lance]

you always do the last zone (the one without alarm on gen cluster) last

and you already have no fog there

so there's never a point for putting cells in no?

[native sun]

In answer to your question: the fog lowers for each cell you input.
Overload is at a fairly low elevation, it starts out of the fog.
If you put in several cells you will fill overload with fog.

[safe cradle]

Nope, as far as I know at start you have basically only 1 zone in fog and it's the one after the cluster

anything else gets you into worse territory

[ocean lance]

yeah so like there's almost no cases in which we put cells in

[safe cradle]

There's also the reason that rushing Overload means you waste less time since if you die, you're gonna die at the Overload beeeg room with the alarms

[ocean lance]

unless we don't do overload

[prime musk]

it really sounded like the 2 of you were complaining about the same 3rd person but sure

[native sun]

If you're doing main/secondary only then plugging cells make sense. You do the areas that start out of fog, plug cells, do the areas that are now out of fog.

[ocean lance]

nah i was complaining about the lobby

i was being mean and pretty much res hogging if there wasn't much cause it felt iffy

[ocean lance]

yeah checks out

that's how i've always seen it done

[frail heart]

This is why you are low tier pub

[ocean lance]

👍

[frail heart]

Okay sky

[civic wave]

did i miss something

[tiny wyvern]

Not much, just some pub conflicts

[fathom ice]

?

[civic wave]

i think it was the thumbs up emoji

[fathom ice]

👍

tl dr pubbington city

[ocean lance]

👍

never seen sky thumbs up

[burnt inlet]

👍

[stuck ravine]

[runic roost]

oh boy cant wait to wake up and complain about pubs today

[upper ginkgo]

real and true

[ocean spindle]

WHY DO PEOPLE CALL THE PREC RIFLE A SNIPERVGRAHHHHG

[uneven kiln]

It’s a battle rifle

[rapid warren]

🎣

[civic wave]

no no battle rifle is 3 round burst, burst rifle is the battle rifle

[uneven kiln]

I guess it’s more of a marksman rifle like DMR now that I think about it…

They have range better than ARs but not super high like true snipers

Didn’t PR used to have way less range too

[lone mortar]

Dmr with extra sauce

[surreal wraith]

hello is there an updated post R8 spreadsheet for weapon and enemy stats?

[upper ginkgo]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_YpsPCclnYXiLGaSlCp4efNewkwHUG-RukGpJKdQEnI/edit?gid=805761801#gid=805761801

[hot peak]

Anyone got any tips for a 3 man team we're struggling just to get past r1c1 😔

[hot peak]

Furthest round is 6

[fathom ice]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[fathom ice]

@digital mural

caught

[digital mural]

bro someone is supposed to come and continue the chain

you ruined it

[ocean spindle]

@digital mural

did i do it right

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[sudden nexus]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[burnt inlet]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[glass violet]

does any1 here know how to freecam...

struggling

[ocean spindle]

freecam u can use cconsole

[glass violet]

issue. i am stupid\

how do i do that </3

[ocean spindle]

it a mod so #hc-modded

[glass violet]

thgank u pookie much appreicated

[grizzled patrol]

press the ^ button on your keyboard to open the console

then use the noclip command

[glass violet]

oouurgh

[grizzled patrol]

there is also the cinematic mod

[glass violet]

is not opening console

ill probably just go for that

lmao

[grizzled patrol]

it toggles free cam with one of the F keys

dont remember which one exactly

[glass violet]

yeah that sounds. Way easier </3

ty

i got it to work ty!

[safe cradle]

Some localizations call it that way.

[grizzled patrol]

Think about it

Sniper rifle is a precision rifle by nature

But in Higher cal

[grizzled patrol]

Imagine it Like Scout and AWP

[wheat gate]

but awp has 5 rounds in a clip

[inner inlet]

Whats the best sniper? The one with 2x persition multiplier has like 2 rounds in the mag are the others better?

[wheat gate]

the best sniper is hel rifle

[ebon galleon]

Hel rifle unless you are using it to primarily kill giants and hybrids.

[digital mural]

THERE

IS

ONLY

ONE

SNIPER

AHHHHHHHHH

[runic roost]

4*

[grizzled patrol]

It used to have 10, so Just Like ours the ammo Count Got nerfed

[wheat gate]

but like

2 doesnt even make sense physically

[grizzled patrol]

Beeeg bullet

[wheat gate]

i get it for scatter

i could suspend enough disbelief for scatter

but 2 for sniper is what

[lone mortar]

big enough to shove it down your throat

muhehehehe

[grizzled patrol]

Gyatt big enough to suffocate you

[sage pulsar]

whats the shortest solo in the gaem (not speedrun)

[civic wave]

probably still r1a1

[wheat gate]

tutorial

[tardy ingot]

wdym not speedrun
isnt the intent of a speedrun to show whats the shortest 💀 ?

[dusty basalt]

what's the strongest thing a spear can kill with a yellow syringe?

Or even a spear + yellow syringe + 100% melee damage

Just curious on how beefy the damage can be on melee

[fathom ice]

u can get like 70% of mom hp

or smth like that

[dusty basalt]

what about sleeping tank?

[fathom ice]

like half

[sturdy glen]

(The damage will get capped)

[fathom ice]

man I'm sad now

[dusty basalt]

can't you swipe to multihit or something?

[ocean spindle]

about the only things u normally hit with a syringe anyways

cscout, a big

[sturdy glen]

no

[fathom ice]

no

[ocean spindle]

that was a thing 3 years ago and not for bosses

[sturdy glen]

that hasnt existed for a long time and idk if that ever even worked for tumors

[fathom ice]

it's like same question 'can you pen multiple tumors'

[fathom ice]

I assume they meant like double hit

[dusty basalt]

I hit multiple enemies with the same melee attack, so I wondered if the same could be done with the weakness blobs

Are giants the strongest thing with and occiput spot?

[ocean spindle]

as each tumor has its hitbox i assume yes but the method must be sooo hard to execute
cuz spear/hammer do it with eenemies side by side

[ocean spindle]

the what huh sorry?

[fathom ice]

technically hybrids

their hp pool is bigger

[dusty basalt]

I thought hybrids were part of the giant class

[fathom ice]

giants are usually referred to big strikers

and then u have chickens and hybrids

[ocean spindle]

hybrid is just kinda is own thing

[dusty basalt]

I thought big strikers, big shooters, and hybrids were all considered giants

[ocean spindle]

buddi

i mean shure

[fathom ice]

you can consider them

but if u call each one a giant

[ocean spindle]

between bigshooters and hybrids the thing that differs is the attack, the reest is the same i think

[fathom ice]

ppl won't understand u

[digital mural]

Guys

They are called Juggers

[fathom ice]

ohhhh

mb

[past mesa]

It hasn’t

Because tumor is the one entity

Of the enemy

[sturdy glen]

Figured

[surreal wraith]

Hello, Knife has a backstab factor of 1.7 and sleep a factor of 1.5. How does the damage calc formula work?

[native sun]

Multiplicative

[tardy ingot]

knife when hitting as many multis as possible is so funny to think about

5,5 (base) x 1,5 (sleeping) x 2 (back) x 1,7 (back multi) x 1,5 (prec multi) x 1-5 (enemy crit spot) x 3 (iix syringe) x 2 (melee dmg boosters)

[surreal wraith]

Ah okay. And this exact order is needed because that's how it orders this in the code?

[tardy ingot]

no

since its multiplicative the order doesnt matter

[sudden nexus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutative_property

[grizzled patrol]

Screw math. We do Meth instead

[surreal wraith]

Man I'm honestly surprised they even gave knife those bonuses. I had a match where I ran +85% dmg knife and being able to one tap big strikers was a treat to say the least

[sudden nexus]

your ass would not be reflexive

[grizzled patrol]

Ask @lone mortar how polished and reflective it is instead

[sudden nexus]

fmv 💀

[surreal wraith]

So, to understand the booster parameter correct, if it was +30%, would it be 1.3, 85 into 1.85, etc?

[grizzled patrol]

That is indeed how percentages Work

[surreal wraith]

Wait, so, are sleepers still sleeping during their wake animation? You're able to one tap reg. strikers to the face, no?

It's not the backstab multiplier, or am I misunderstanding the backstab multiplier?

[grizzled patrol]

You dont need a sleeping Nor a Back Bonus to 1tap strikers with a full charge to the head

[surreal wraith]

Oh, right it's the precision mult

[grizzled patrol]

5.5 (Base damage) × 1.5 (precision multi) × 3 (Striker weakpoint Bonus) = 24,75

But Facestabs are actually real

More of a Bug tho, since throughout the wake Animation the enemy orientation is Not getting updated

So you can still get the Back bonuses

(Assuming you were Standing behind them)

[surreal wraith]

What is the environmental mult?

[native sun]

only used for locks (and doors)

[surreal wraith]

ah

[burnt inlet]

What env mult is used for bat? Asking since it can one tap them no charge

[native sun]

5

[burnt inlet]

Does this make it as good or better than hammer against doors?

[native sun]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Doors#Damaging

[tiny wyvern]

knife needs 51 uncharged hits huh

I thought it'd be less

[frail heart]

It’s worse

[burnt inlet]

When in group yes?

[frail heart]

It’s like only better for duos on big doors when one person can’t hit or something

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[frail heart]

Idek

It’s just worse

[burnt inlet]

Ye

Cuz no charge it’s same as hammer

[native sun]

Same damage per light hit, but bat does light hits faster

[burnt inlet]

Fair

So solos it’s better with bat?

[frail heart]

Solos you don’t break doors unless it’s a hack lock

And even so you still break small doors

Wait

I’m stupid

What did I just say lmao

[tardy ingot]

[burnt inlet]

Lmao it’s good frosty

[native sun]

If you're not allowed to start with a full charge for some reason

[grizzled patrol]

With Hammer you Just full charge and do 2 light taps (in context of small Doors, dont remember the Numbers for the big ones)

[burnt inlet]

True

[grizzled patrol]

Bat is Just sad

[tardy ingot]

If bat did hammer charged dmg to doors

Wed run it a lot in speedruns

but alas

[grizzled patrol]

Just use tripmines

[burnt inlet]

Just mod the game to make it

[lone mortar]

Mines?

Craft

[grizzled patrol]

I am going to Mine your Ass Till i craft the Diamond hoe

[lone mortar]

real

[tardy ingot]

whats the average clear speed of R2B1 (with prior knowledge of everything in the level) 💀 ?

[tiny wyvern]

Is this like a serious question or just a joke one?

[grizzled patrol]

Pubs? Max 10 i would say

[tardy ingot]

serious

we are working on smth with different tiers

and the expected clear time with prior knowledge of the level is the lowest one

[tardy ingot]

seems way too low ngl

considering that thats what we have for R1A1

[civic wave]

I'd say 20-25

[tardy ingot]

now that seems long again

[civic wave]

pubs are slow

[tiny wyvern]

With casual knowledge, generally 20 to 30 mins
With absolute knowledge, 20 to maybe 15

[tardy ingot]

whats the difference between absolute and casual knowledge here

[prime musk]

all the pubs i have had of that level have been sub 20 but above 10

[tiny wyvern]

I've played it once and I know where to go for stuff vs I've done this to death and know how to do everything normally

[tardy ingot]

its basically supposed to be
clear first zone (no slow crouch stealth but also not fast)
do blood door
clear next zone and check term
do blood door 2 and clear said zone
get key
loot up
do scan
clear alarm waves
extract

[tiny wyvern]

Not speeds levels of knowledge

[civic wave]

even with prior knowledge, half the players are complacent and slow

[tiny wyvern]

^

[tardy ingot]

yea I have "15?" for it rn but it feels a bit willy nilly

[grizzled patrol]

You mean complete beginners? Even with knowledge they might panik about Not having enough ressources and maybe Open some extra Doors. Plus If all 4 Run Spears then yeah, they might Take their sweet time. I guess 20-30 minutes Sounds good

[tardy ingot]

its supposed to be an easy goal to reach

when you are trying to go for it

[prime musk]

i'd think 10 is that goal but

[tardy ingot]

but not smth you get by actually playing like a blind player

[prime musk]

15 is def more accessible

15 accomodates for actual stealth

[tardy ingot]

for context
R1A1 is 10
R1D1 is 30 (rn)
R4A3 is 15

[prime musk]

it has to be shorter than r4a3 i think

[tardy ingot]

does it?

[grizzled patrol]

Honestly, for R1A1 i think 10 mins is too Low for Pubs. Would say more in the 20 Minute range

[tardy ingot]

R1A1 can be done in under 8 minutes with worst possible rng, only crouching the whole time

[prime musk]

r4a3 just has more space

[grizzled patrol]

If you Rush the objectives yeah, but Pubs are Pubs, instead of focusing on the objectives they will Just explore around and gather res

[tardy ingot]

I dont rly think so o.O?

the goal is that you are trying to clear

not explore shit for no reason

[prime musk]

what i mean is that both levels are run in a straight line

[tardy ingot]

going resource zone is fine, but not opening rooms for lulz

[prime musk]

and that r2b1 is shorter

in that sense

[tardy ingot]

they are funnily enough

in a 10 second time

6 seconds difference

its gonna be way harder on deeper levels either way :(

especially since its main only

[prime musk]

hmm

maybe you're right

are we assuming logging or not

[tardy ingot]

for this?
no logging

(bronze medal)

[grizzled patrol]

So Not average anymore? Those Rules are confising

[tardy ingot]

average clear

if you are going for the clear

[grizzled patrol]

Fastest is the lowest, Clearing everything is the highest. Average should be in the middle and Not the lowest. At least thats how i See it

[tardy ingot]

well 10 min R1A1 is the middle

it allows for derping around a lot

level is that short

[grizzled patrol]

I guess i need to Pub a couple more A1s to Test it

[tardy ingot]

its the middle if you had nobody actually new or legit afk

If we send 4 people who know whats in R1A1 and tell them they are supposed to clear the level without wasting time (not intent to speedrun but not derp around)
then they should get sub 10 easily

these times dont work with blind runs obviously

cuz those include a lot of careful play and running around for loot safety etc

[safe cradle]

I dont know

[tardy ingot]

wdym you dont know ?

[safe cradle]

sorry I tried to post in gtfo media

and fucked up

but basically

R1A1 with 3 bots I just tried for fun with jackshit to do

7:45 and it involved me kicking them because they didnt want to enter hsu scan due to enemies still alive and them walking

was the one on top of ladder which I assume to be the worst one?

And this was me basically shooting all rooms but E

So, 8min R1A1 crouching seems a stretch to me

[tardy ingot]

Ive got 2 videos of it

[safe cradle]

I beelined to alarm then terminal then key then alarm then terminal then HSU

[tardy ingot]

1 in 5:21 (tho that was with checking rng and getting decent rng aswell)

in the 8 min run we pinged key and hsu

[safe cradle]

maybe with 3 humans it would have been faster but I dont know

[tardy ingot]

it typically is yea

[safe cradle]

Nah

[tardy ingot]

"speedrunning" with 3 bots casually got me a 5 min run

speedrunning with 3 players is always under 4 minutes (if done right) on any rng

[safe cradle]

I'm sorry I really repeat myself but I think your vision is eskewed towards speedrunning this game

[tardy ingot]

8:17 only crouching
no logs

ive seen legit beginners get 13 min clears (after dying to hsu and redropping) and completely blind 20 min clears

even if those are rare, those are actual beginners. And this is aimed at knowing what is in the level. How to setup for alarms ahead of times and where terms are

We could find 4 people rn whove played r1a1
let them explore the map once to know what to do
then send them in again and I 100% bet theyd get sub 10

[safe cradle]

sub 10 yeah

[tardy ingot]

well yea

the bronze time is 10 min

[safe cradle]

it's 8 min crouching that I dont really think is average

by any extent of the word average

[tardy ingot]

the 8 min time was just a showcase for "haha crouching"

I mean what in the crouching run would be above average?

[safe cradle]

by crouching

you mean just pressing C, then never stand up

[tardy ingot]

yea

[safe cradle]

and playing like that

or going slow with stealth etc

ah

then okay-ish

[tardy ingot]

actual crouch stealthing is kinda the antithesis to this whole medal thing

cuz you only rly want to crouch stealth if an encounter seems dangerous (I do crouch stealth rarely too, obviously far less than the average player)

So if youve already beaten a level you should likely not fear the typical R1A1 rooms (exception of scout and giants)

R1D1 with 30 min shows that idea I guess?

Since basically all stealth rooms have scouts (or at least giants) the time is more geared towards taking those slow enough (or playing them fast and then looting with side zones)

but rly theres so much to think about with this

[safe cradle]

What's your idea exactly?

Do like some SP games had for Plat-Gold-Bronze time?

[tardy ingot]

we are working on a "medal system"

[safe cradle]

Like Crash Bandicoot Warped Relics?

[tardy ingot]

Champion, gold, silver, bronze

havent rly "locked" in many times

[safe cradle]

we?

[tardy ingot]

tgb, kenny, frosty, me
also asked tru
will likely ask ray, chill and others if interested

[safe cradle]

let me guess, this discord will have another speedrunning event?

[tardy ingot]

it likely will in july

but soy already said that in like april

[safe cradle]

I'm going to get hate for this, I know, but dont you have a speedrunning discord for GTFO?

[tardy ingot]

yea?

but the speedrunning events are to get people interested in it

soy swaps between them and more diverse ones from what I know?

[safe cradle]

whatever, I guess

[civic wave]

speedrunning events drum up more activity in the community at large

may as well happen here, its a waste just to keep it to the speedrun server

[prime musk]

^ if you actually want to generate any new interest in it it has to be not in the speedrun server as well

[inner inlet]

I have seen people place scatergun and hel shotgun near/at the top of tierlists, are they actualy that good?

[little pilot]

yes

scattergun invalidates most bosses and giants

hel shotgun can hold off solo an entire wave

[inner inlet]

I have also seen sawd off near the top, is that one good too?

[little pilot]

yep

sawed off just oneshots any small, even chargers and if u burst it it can murder giants

also it is still very strong into bosses cause of the massive burst

the reload on sawed off makes it a lot easier to play all around too

[inner inlet]

Is trying to kill gients with melee weapons worth it? Me and my buddies take like 20%damge trying sometimes

[wheat gate]

yea

3 hammers to the back is instant kill

so if u can just get 3 people u kill instantly

or u can just swap between hitting with two people and keep it staggered

[digital mural]

Yes

I mean

You will have to do it at some point

Multiple times

[wheat gate]

u will be forced to learn how to melee giants yea

[wheat gate]

if u can train to coordinate this reliably it will be very good skill to have for certain other enemies too

[timber shoal]

aim for different limbs each time to maintain stagger

[wheat gate]

if u have < 3 people u will have to focus on the stagger
if u have 3+ u can try to coordinate for a insta

[prime musk]

til that standing still on a apex door as it lowers counts as movement and alerts sleepers

this game fucking sucks

[wheat gate]

lmao

[civic wave]

being pushed by an object does as well

like if you close a door on top of yourself and it moves you

[wheat gate]

what is that R5C1 or something with a giant next to apex

wait no apex door isnt in the respawn room in that level

nvm
its on the bridge after it

[civic wave]

so does going on terminal iirc, think tru had a clip of it?

[inner inlet]

Bro the first apex door me and bro saw was a level 7 and the second was a 4😭 🙏

[wheat gate]

ah yea the first class 7

that teaches u about the importance of setup

[civic wave]

tfw you do r2b1 before r1c2

[digital mural]

Wait until he finds the mischievous security door with a 12 alarm

[civic wave]

I prefer the Class X S Cluster

[wheat gate]

what level was that bait class 10 S scan thats actually more like a class 15 bcos it splits multiple times

[inner inlet]

R1c1 is imposible bro, the devs where troleing

[wheat gate]

whers teh r1c1 bot

[inner inlet]

🤢

[upper ginkgo]

do you like reading books

[digital mural]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[inner inlet]

Only if i don't have english class

[inner inlet]

I already beat it bro im troleing💀

[civic wave]

the last book i read introduced me to some ideas that are grisly and make me squirm

[upper ginkgo]

omg share with the class in excruciating detail, im sure everyone would be delighted to hear

[prime musk]

why is it that you can't hear enemies specifically when they are right behind you this game is amazing

[upper ginkgo]

audio only renders based on whatever is in your fov or something (misinformation)

[inner inlet]

Your deaf🤷‍♂️

[upper ginkgo]

you're death**

[topaz anvil]

It's a stealth game, no-one said it was us that had to be stealthy

[inner inlet]

🤯

[prime musk]

im just complaining about audio culling

[inner inlet]

If only gtfo had skills like skyrim, then we could stealth role

[timber shoal]

so maybe r2d2 bots only is not viable actually

[tiny wyvern]

It is

It's hellish, but it's 'viable'

[timber shoal]

yeah that's what i've gathered

[tiny wyvern]

The two non-viable missions are theoretically possible as well, though no one's gone through the trouble of working through it

[inner inlet]

R2d2 is the reactor right?

[timber shoal]

yeah

i've only gotten so far as wave 7 before getting overwhelmed

[wheat gate]

oof bots only r2d2 sounds terrible

[timber shoal]

i don't recommend it at all

it's so much running back and forth and micromanaging the bots

they're like misbehaving children

[wheat gate]

imagine if telling them to follow would force them to try to reposition

[timber shoal]

if only

[undone raven]

how to do overload last r6d3

[tardy ingot]

you cant

overload is either first or 2nd

[undone raven]

ok thx

i didnt know if it was after main or after sec

[sudden nexus]

olv main sec right

[tardy ingot]

thats the intended and easiest real route yea

funniest route is doing overload and secondary while main isnt finished yet

[timber shoal]

so for weapons like hel revolver and hel gun, the recoil is almost purely visual, correct?

[patent mulch]

well for hel gun probably because it has to charge up and your recoil probably is gone by then but im pretty sure it still matters for the hel revo

[wheat gate]

yea hel revo recoil def matters

it will be pretty hard to control if u spam as fast as u can

[wheat gate]

the funny r5d1 where u do main first

(i did that the first time cos i didnt know and we failed pretty fast into secondary. that error is no joke. and on top of the respawns)

[static kestrel]

so like did i miss something? or did the sawed off become one of the best primaries over night??

why do i see everyone using it?? in many diff types of solo completions and co op in general why am i seeing it so much?

i thought it was shit lol

[prime musk]

it became the best when r8 released but it didn't really catch on until some time after

it's just like, far and away the strongest main atp

[sturdy glen]

its been pretty well known for about a year now

[static kestrel]

really??? lol

i really missed out

ive always just been a dmr guy

maybe ill just try sawed off over dmr in solo play for some levels

[civic wave]

sawed off is disgusting

but i'm still coping about it for solo speed and taking diff weapons for my a1s

[static kestrel]

im hardly good enough to solo b1s without bots so

jus tryna get better

my best solo completion is r6c1 no bots

[prime musk]

r6c1 is not that easy

if no checkpoints it is a good clear

[static kestrel]

yeah it was no checkpoints

it took me a while tho lol

after that i hit my wall

didnt kno what to play solo and since have barely done anything

[zealous canopy]

Damn should've dropped into pit with less than 60hp at least once

That's great tho

[static kestrel]

i lost the clip but i remember when i beat ts man

was so fire

but now idk what to dooooo

r6d1 is such a huge skill jump

and if this was older gtfo i could use the sniper but nerfed sniper feels so bad now man

or maybe hel gun but that gun also feels not as strong unfortunately

[prime musk]

hel gun is either 2nd or 3rd best special

can def take it for like anything solo

[static kestrel]

i miss when i could spam hel gun super fast lol

[prime musk]

no more .1

unfort

[static kestrel]

but yeah i feel like going from r6c1 to r6d1 is crazy hard

idek how to start

[prime musk]

r6d1 is way harder but it's not that bad

[static kestrel]

and legit every other level i try i get rolled

[prime musk]

you just gotta stealth everything and then clear reactor

probably is a hel gun or hel rifle angle

[native sun]

No love for burst of cannon :(

[prime musk]

it's flyers in the reactor

[static kestrel]

never used it before

[prime musk]

and in kraken idk i don't think you take burst cannon

[static kestrel]

i feel like hel guns would jus be better for d1 overall

cuz reactor

[silk radish]

I will sing burst cannon’s praises

It has perfect breakpoints for giants, has a massive reserve of ammo, and doesn’t do too badly vs hordes and bosses

[prime musk]

"doesn't do too badly vs hordes and bosses"

is 2nd best boss kill and like 3rd or 4th best waveclear

[static kestrel]

i would rather just hel rifle pierce for a reactor than the burst cannon tho

[silk radish]

second best? Huh, thought it was lower

[static kestrel]

maybe ill just start practicing d1 with diff loadouts

[prime musk]

it just has way better dps and total dmg than any non scatter option

pr is comparable and then you have to reload iirc

[native sun]

This is choke mod erasure

[prime musk]

man

choke feels so bad to play

[static kestrel]

i hate choke

never used for a solo completion ever

[silk radish]

Choke mod was my old secondary, it just kinda got powercrept

[prime musk]

chokemod dps with reload is kinda not amazing either

[dusty basalt]

I heard that the overload objective error alarm on R7D1 can glitch out and spawn more enemies than it's supposed to, is this still an issue?

[silk radish]

Nah it got fixed

[dusty basalt]

Thanks

[silk radish]

Just hope you don’t get infinite scout scream bug

[dusty basalt]

no clue what that is and I also hope to never find out

[static kestrel]

that bug sounds fire lol

[silk radish]

It’s a pretty rare bug, you should be fine

[static kestrel]

is there a level similiar to difficulty of r6c1 that i can practice? (so i dont keep getting rolled by r6d1 lol.)

[fathom ice]

are you solo

[static kestrel]

yeah

i meant that i can practice and beat solo

no bots ofc

[fathom ice]

first of all

[prime musk]

i'd just do r1 r2 r3 in order except r2e1 skipped and r3c1 last of r3

[fathom ice]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[fathom ice]

second of all

it is for sure sawed off/bc for 6d1

third of all

[fathom ice]

^

[static kestrel]

im doing solo on purpose lol

[prime musk]

4th of all
don't listen to me im bad

[static kestrel]

man r1c1 whoops my ass solo lol

[fathom ice]

are u using boosters

[static kestrel]

nah

[fathom ice]

based

[static kestrel]

yeah

[fathom ice]

but

[static kestrel]

goal is 2 be goated at solo play

[fathom ice]

you wanna get some experience in a 4 man

preferably

or in duos

spam trying solo is not really the way

[static kestrel]

well i have like

[fathom ice]

unless all you do is going long

[prime musk]

i do not agree at all, but sure
idk there is so much flyer to shoot and a decent bit or normal alarm stuff
hel gun will just feel so much better

[static kestrel]

500 hours now

like i used to play in the lfg all the time

but now my goal is to be the soo goat

[fathom ice]

hel gun takes 20 years to kill kraken

for smalls u just brush

u sawed off flyers

[static kestrel]

bc = burst cannon?

[prime musk]

solo makes you very reliant on good shooting, and even more so on good game knowledge and great movement. learning this in solo is super punishing and very unfun

[fathom ice]

yes

[prime musk]

maybe

[static kestrel]

i am a masochist

(not really)

[fathom ice]

play r2d2

for 50 hours

[static kestrel]

i just really enjoy the game solo lol idek why

[fathom ice]

and learn positioning and shooting

[static kestrel]

idek if i have r2d2 unlocked

[prime musk]

do not listen to sky

that is what i did at 500 hours and look at how i turned out

[static kestrel]

idk how u turned out

[fathom ice]

you have literally all E tier duo speeds

well except one but still

[prime musk]

we're getting there

[static kestrel]

wow

[prime musk]

when i don't crash out we'll get it trust

[fathom ice]

I don't think u can call urself bad

[prime musk]

ehh h

it's like
i just lose focus and make mistakes kinda easily

[fathom ice]

ngl anyone who has macro can't call themselves bad prob

[prime musk]

and i make bad decisions because i play like im host sometimes

[fathom ice]

but yeah

point of solos is

easiest way is going long and doing 4 hour clears

[static kestrel]

which is totally chill

i dont mind

[fathom ice]

yeah but like during those 4 hours u make one mistake and you're dead

so it's kinda sus

or better

[prime musk]

depends on how much med you have

but yeah

[fathom ice]

u make a mistake and u take 30 more minutes recovering it

[static kestrel]

thats chill

[sturdy glen]

do r7d2

[fathom ice]

ohhhh

[static kestrel]

y r7d2

[fathom ice]

he's cooking

shooting sim

[sturdy glen]

its basically all shooting and taking and keeping space

with good enemy variety

[static kestrel]

oh wait i remember now

yeah i remember that level

is that even possible solo lol

[fathom ice]

chill did

I did

[static kestrel]

like ig in theory i could just go loud in everything and just kill it all no?

[prime musk]

ye

[static kestrel]

just use like

sawed off scatter

mines

[prime musk]

you can also kite if you're boring

[static kestrel]

idek how to kite ive never kited before

[fathom ice]

correct choice is sawed off hel rifle

sniper sentry

[fathom ice]

I unironically giant kited for 50 minutes and died at checkpoint

and then just fully shot it

[sturdy glen]

you can run basically any of the S tier specials for it

they all work

[fathom ice]

ye

[sturdy glen]

hel rifle probably hardest

[static kestrel]

remind me the objective of r7d2?

[prime musk]

scatter is probably most sus because no range is scary

[fathom ice]

fr?

[static kestrel]

ik u start and grab sum shit

[sturdy glen]

scatter is very fine

[static kestrel]

start a scan

run to a blood door

then after that idk what to do i forgor

[sturdy glen]

its almost the easiest

[fathom ice]

man my clear is a hel rifle

and nothing else worked

[prime musk]

wait didn't you do hel gun

[fathom ice]

how do you play bc

[prime musk]

am i hallucinating

[sturdy glen]

I thought you did hel gun too yea

[fathom ice]

nah

I'd assume I did hel rifle

I'm checking

oops

[sturdy glen]

it was hel gun

[prime musk]

#gtfo-media message

[sturdy glen]

lol

[fathom ice]

yeah

man

kinda silly that I can't play it anymore

like I used to

[sturdy glen]

I ran scatter when trying to speed it and its very easy

[fathom ice]

like I'm just not hitting heads

[prime musk]

literally me

[fathom ice]

scatter is just a full send angle

[prime musk]

started playing scatter and hel rifle and i just struggle so hard with hitting head

[fathom ice]

yeah

[prime musk]

like on revo or hel rifle it's fine

[fathom ice]

same

[prime musk]

but hel gun i just struggle so hard, i think my brain just isn't juggling head + pen well at all

[fathom ice]

I feel terrible playing hel revo/ hel gun

cuz I'm super washed at it even tho it's super fun

[prime musk]

man my sense of danger is just so thrown off by playing sawed off because it bails you so hard

you get to commit so hard to holding space with it

so whenever i play not sawed off i have to readjust mental to reposition earlier

[static kestrel]

what makes sawed off so good at holding space

[sturdy glen]

new gens always forgetting hel shotgun 😭

[static kestrel]

im saying isnt hel shotgun fire

[prime musk]

sorry hel shotgun is the same as sawed off here

[fathom ice]

u kill 4 every clip

[prime musk]

but kinda not because it forces you to retreat when you have to reload

[fathom ice]

and u have very good reload

[static kestrel]

hmmmmmmmm

[prime musk]

(and if you're not killing 4 you're staggering 8)

[fathom ice]

like u have high cal / shotgun for a record

and then u have sawed off

[static kestrel]

so jus to clarify

i should just practice r7d2 2 completion?

[fathom ice]

ofc !

[static kestrel]

im cooked.

lol

ts sounds hard

[prime musk]

ngl you should be vod reviewing yourself and figuring out why you're dying

[fathom ice]

it's bad first 20 minutes

[static kestrel]

the last time i played solo the reason i died was legit just a skill issue

just whiffing with dmr

[prime musk]

and then when you think you have figured it out, ask someone better to do the same and watch as the mistake is 4 levels deeper and made 30 seconds before you thought it was

[fathom ice]

💀

[sturdy glen]

u guys wanna run smth

[static kestrel]

why sniper sentry for r7d2?

and not mines

[sturdy glen]

you use mines twice

[prime musk]

im kinda checked out rn but if it's casual im down

[static kestrel]

o

[sturdy glen]

and the main problem with the blood doors is hybrids

which spawn at the back/inside of room

not on the door

[prime musk]

serious speeds i should't partake in

[sturdy glen]

rando

[fathom ice]

I can for an hour or two

[static kestrel]

how r u supposed to use the sniper sentry for r7d2 tho

well actually

ig ill figure it out as i go

[sturdy glen]

exact same way as regular

[fathom ice]

u have bridge
first res room
second res room
third res room

all have great spots

[sturdy glen]

its probably also worth looking into a tank kill spot using sentry

I Forget if tru did that already

[fathom ice]

man

I feel sad

I was just killing in that tile before mom/tank zones

since he's just down

and it's super free

[sturdy glen]

I killed inside A of tank

[fathom ice]

yea that works too

[sturdy glen]

I love inside of A

[fathom ice]

ye

did u kill A tanks

[sturdy glen]

yea

[fathom ice]

or was thete none

nice

[static kestrel]

wtf is insane of A??

[sturdy glen]

I think I killed 2 in my run

[static kestrel]

inside**

[sturdy glen]

2 A tanks

[fathom ice]

A as a room in a zone

[static kestrel]

oh lol

[fathom ice]

man

[sturdy glen]

the speed is actually so dissappointing

cuz I know if I roll 3 A tanks

I can just kill all of them

if im not trying to go fast