gtfo-related-questions

[tardy ingot]

Id argue „non experienced teams“ is ???

Because if that was the grading what are 25 and 50 for?
(Well 50 was for first cell skip)

[frail heart]

Eg. 10:30 r3d1

[hoary mason]

consolation prizes

[errant dome]

thats kinda crazy

[hardy grotto]

can we please stop comparing this to r3d1

its such a bad comparison

[tardy ingot]

R1B2 then?

[hardy grotto]

this is like bringing up minecraft in the logs arguments again man im going feral

[frail heart]

Soy did, ray did. I referencing a message soy sent

[errant dome]

i do remember soy said smthing like that ya

i just didnt remember the exact time

[civic wave]

the sentiment for choosing a time barrier, or a direct comparison of running 2 levels?

[frail heart]

#gtfo-chat message

[burnt inlet]

Show mods folder 🥸

[hardy grotto]

its a terrible comparison because r3d1 is just a shitfest of rng at that point and cell skip generally is a more skill based run

i dont think these comparisons should be made

soy is forgiven cause he doesnt play the game

ray is getting shot

[tardy ingot]

Also iirc chill stated later that 2-2 cell side isnt actually that bad?

[errant dome]

rip ray

[ocean lance]

goat go to bed

[civic wave]

does anyone here know what a sentiment is? i'm looking for my sentiments but they keep getting lost and i need someone who knows what they are to aid my search

[frail heart]

Yeah

[tardy ingot]

Cell skip sub 20 is incomparable to r3d1 sub 11

Because 1 is not lenient compared to the other

[frail heart]

He was just under the impression from what tru and whoever said

[tardy ingot]

Sentiment?
You mean
Sandy men?

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[civic wave]

no i like my men clean shaven i'm afraid

[steep ivy]

based

[tardy ingot]

Good that I just shaved yesterday then

[hardy grotto]

sub 20 prolly easier cause no rng sure, but i dont think thats a bad thing as the run itself is more demanding skill wise

as opposed to r3d1 where it was 1 single zone

[burnt inlet]

😳

[tardy ingot]

R3D1 couldve also just had charger zone pull as strat. Way easier and allows sub 12 still with no issue

(Comparable to split vs chill strat)

[frail heart]

Basically guys we can’t stop the tour guiding on these things and that’s the problem so we might have to burn chill publically

[civic wave]

i need more gtfo speedrunners to try flirt with me so i can tier list it

[hardy grotto]

why do we care about the tour guiding

i do not understand

[frail heart]

No as in

[tardy ingot]

I think R5E1 „tour guiding“ was pretty healthy

[frail heart]

Most people got sub 20 cause your guided

[tardy ingot]

R3D1 felt more like tag along in a few

[frail heart]

Tour

[burnt inlet]

Uh huh

[little pilot]

r5e1 tour guide was ok especially since the person being tour guided did require at least a bare minimum skill

[frail heart]

Yeah obv

But you can carry pretty hard

[hoary mason]

Can I just fumble at the start immediately

[little pilot]

r3d1 was a little iffy cause of the fact that only skill required was doing scans and the rest could be covered by teammates

[tardy ingot]

Funny fumble or stupid one?

[steep ivy]

that's why i don't flirt, i get flirted with

[hoary mason]

depends

[frail heart]

And some people still couldn’t do that 😔

[civic wave]

yeah sure why not, i already know someone else will end up in the tier named "restraining order", you'll not be the worst

[hardy grotto]

eh people still needed to be locked in for charger zone

[hardy grotto]

if they werent contributing youd definitely feel it

[ocean lance]

didn't we watch that one run with uh

fluster?

where he went down in charger zone

[tardy ingot]

Its bad when I immediatly think „tgb“

But then also, tgb wouldnt ever count as flirting (id hope)

[ocean lance]

and the team did charger zone trio pretty much?

[hardy grotto]

ye

[ocean lance]

that was insane pov

[civic wave]

ding ding ding

[hardy grotto]

kind of insane clutch

[ocean lance]

it was blue's pov i think that was crazy i think

[little pilot]

i did not flirt with a single person in the discord and if anyone counts that as flirting u have issues

[tardy ingot]

BBC message nr 17263833

[hoary mason]

Some runs of r5e1 with non-split strat were so devastating to chill cause of single mistake that anyone could've made and he was letting himself down too much bc of that

[burnt inlet]

Not in the discord but the BBC’s

[tardy ingot]

R3D1 couldve easily had a sub 12 time which just allows charger zone to be fast killed instead of full rushed everytime

[civic wave]

i did some pubs that were pushing for sub20 and almost boiled over

[frail heart]

Chill went through 5 stages of grief

[hoary mason]

after certain run it was way worse

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏I hope our pub wasnt sub 20 expectations

[tardy ingot]

Joining chill 9 hours into r5e1 pubs was wild

[civic wave]

tbh i can't remember who was in the lobby at that point so couldn't say

[burnt inlet]

Raj, me, someone I think I usually play with and another pub

I need to redeem myself for that last run

[tardy ingot]

@burnt inlet gotta go on your training arc and crush the next comp/challenge in june

[burnt inlet]

Aimlabs frfr

But also idk how to improve much except for my aim

[tardy ingot]

Knowledge

And movement

[civic wave]

need the hanimoon macro guide

[hoary mason]

There's 2 things
aim
game sense

[tardy ingot]

Knowledge

[steep ivy]

game sense imo is more important

[hoary mason]

Game sense combines all the stuffs that people are mentioning(movement, knowledge, micro, macro) and other stragegizing stuffs

[tardy ingot]

also for speeds movement is legit important

[burnt inlet]

Yea currently I W and A/D run out of habit but yea im gonna try and unlearn it

[hoary mason]

and uforch this games guns are complete ass so aim is lower prio than other stuff

[tardy ingot]

Game sense to me feel more like subconciously knowing how to act to survive/kill

Knowledge here is more „exact plan for level“ and movement „how to minmax time“

[frail heart]

[tardy ingot]

Wdym guns are ass 💀

[hoary mason]

which is combination of knowledge, movement and micro

[steep ivy]

how can i train bad memory?

[frail heart]

How does it even become a habit

[hoary mason]

They aren't fun to shoot.

[tardy ingot]

This! This! This!

A/d sprinting is such a bad habit in gtfo

[frail heart]

Party pooper over here

[burnt inlet]

Other games it’s not cancer to run like that whilst at a 45* angle, allows me to see more than normal

[tardy ingot]

I disagree but clearly on a subjective basis

[hoary mason]

ye it is subjective

[tardy ingot]

Some games even have you go faster that way LOL

[hoary mason]

I just expect better class of shooting in games lmao

[burnt inlet]

Wait Eva is it still slow as shit at a 45* angle

[hoary mason]

As in I play(played) mostly intesive fps games like destiny2pvp, apex, the finals, a lot of singleplayer games like doom eternal or other boomer shooters

[frail heart]

That’s just bad coding lmao

[burnt inlet]

Yea ik lol (Mario kart is a funi version of that tech)

[hoary mason]

I am adrenaline junkie

[tardy ingot]

Fun* coding

[steep ivy]

i hate the fact hel revolver has 8 rounds per cylinder but only reloads 6

[frail heart]

Bad

[hoary mason]

And when I go from guns in those games to guns in this game

[tardy ingot]

Hm? Yes your movement speed is slowed down directly

[burnt inlet]

Mfw i have 2 speed units diagonally instead of sqrt(2)

[hoary mason]

I like die inside

[frail heart]

L

[burnt inlet]

Ok damn

[errant dome]

you would love sawed off

[steep ivy]

i've been using it and i do my best to just ignore it

[errant dome]

understandable

[frail heart]

“MY REALISM!!!!” 🤓 ☝️

[tardy ingot]

Otherwise youd see us running around diagonally

[burnt inlet]

Would you tho for just straight?

[steep ivy]

if it was faster you would do it all the time i assume

[frail heart]

Yeah

But like

[burnt inlet]

Nah but like it was coded so that run forward = run diagonally at 45* angle

[frail heart]

That would be HORRIBLE design for the game

[hoary mason]

yeah it's called vector normalization

[tardy ingot]

If it was faster only obviously

[burnt inlet]

Like would you even use it cuz you’d have to essentially look away from what ur running towards yet it’s still same speed

[grizzled patrol]

Iirc you get slowed down when running diagonaly only while charging the melee (to 4.5m/s)

Without it its Not faster, but also Not drastically worse

[burnt inlet]

So wait if I angle myself 45* it’s same speed ”forwards” as regular?

[frail heart]

I’m pretty sure it is 100% slower lol

[burnt inlet]

Im so confused

[frail heart]

Running diagonally is slower than just straight

[grizzled patrol]

Diagonaly Just Run is slower but Not that Bad. Running diagonaly and charging is significantly slower

[hardy grotto]

you should just hold w

[frail heart]

Why the fuck would you intentionally run diagonally

“Not that bad” it’s bad

[hardy grotto]

shouldve watched the nuggies guide honestly

[grizzled patrol]

In Golden eye and other old Games you Ran faster diagonally

[hardy grotto]

yes

but we are playing

the hit 10cc game

gftfo

gtfo*

[grizzled patrol]

Yes

[hardy grotto]

so this fact is not really relevant!

[hoary mason]

cause they allowed running in all cardinal directions and there was no vector normalization for direction

[grizzled patrol]

Absolutely. Someone asked tho

[frail heart]

😱

[burnt inlet]

Get fucking the fuck out

[frail heart]

No they didn’t what?

[tardy ingot]

I dont think charging while running diagonally slows you down any more than normal diagonal running

[burnt inlet]

Just allow my bad habits

[hoary mason]

unhinged comment

[hardy grotto]

umm thats actually NOT what gtfo stands for

[steep ivy]

13 year olds when first starting to swear

[frail heart]

.t gtfo

[uneven gulch]

The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

[ocean lance]

can we get five nights at freddys in gtfo

[hardy grotto]

fivebars

[calm pulsar]

aur aur aur aur aur

[frail heart]

Har har har har

[ocean lance]

it'd be so epic

[tardy ingot]

Among us in gtfo comes first

[grizzled patrol]

I am Not going to scroll all the way Up

[frail heart]

[ocean lance]

#gtfo-media message

this is at the park i go with my dog with

[burnt inlet]

This¿

[grizzled patrol]

Ew Jollz sub. Dont Talk to me

[frail heart]

At least I

Nvm

[burnt inlet]

At least he

Nvm

[frail heart]

Okay so if you are holding w and d, you are basically moving in both those directions and moving at like 1.4x the normal speed you should be

If they don’t normalise it

[burnt inlet]

No like

I meant for malefic

😔

[frail heart]

You don’t even wanna know what I was gonna say

[burnt inlet]

Uh huh

[hoary mason]

[tardy ingot]

Maid

[burnt inlet]

Great quality

[steep ivy]

no that would the discord for doom /j

[grizzled patrol]

Go ahead. I am Not a snowflake

[hoary mason]

you're worse?

[grizzled patrol]

Yes

[safe cradle]

Those arguments (I'm skimming through the conversation) remind me of the "there's no special badge for checkpointless" for some reason.

[burnt inlet]

Is checkpointless just completing the level without checkpoints?

[safe cradle]

Yeah

[burnt inlet]

Why would there be

[safe cradle]

Some people wanted a special badge as in a special completion for it

kinda like Secondary(was Extreme)/Overload and PE

This was when checkpoints were introduced in OG R6

[burnt inlet]

Im not convinced it should exist but I also wouldn’t mind if it was a thingy type shit

[safe cradle]

It irked me because it seemed like people that were pushing for it wanted something other than just achieving something in a coop PvE shooter

I mean nothing stops you from doing a level checkpointless

So why would a special badge change that in any way

I've no idea

[burnt inlet]

Wait I thought u meant in the discord

[safe cradle]

No, in the game

[burnt inlet]

So like ”LFM (insert checkpointless)”

[safe cradle]

This was back when game didnt have achievements either

[burnt inlet]

Bruh😭🙏

[hardy grotto]

makes sense

[safe cradle]

I'm very reluctant to enter the discussion on the contest because 1- I dont like speedrunning. 2- Following point 1 I've no experience in it. 3- I feel that I'd get bombarded with "you're salty you're not good enough/sour grapes sleepo".

[ocean lance]

you're salty you're not good enough

sour grapes sleeop

[burnt inlet]

Sour grapes sleepo ur salty cuz ur not good enough

[topaz anvil]

Unepic salty grapes sleepo

[safe cradle]

Both 1 and 2 would be fair points, I'm under no illusion of grandeur.

[minor fractal]

I think the best argument for it rn is it would let them use more checkpoints and maybe buff/rework boosters

Maybe in GTFO 2, tho

[burnt inlet]

Gtfo 2 confirmed?

[hardy grotto]

idk gtfo's whole deal is just like the progression is becoming better at the game

and thus getting past harder levels

and if ur us just pushing yoruself as much as you can

it's never really needed much incentive for these challenges i feel like

• it would just end up being another thing for elitism

shout out to that one guy with the funny bio

idk it's why im glad so many people end up with this role

[safe cradle]

I mean at a certain point an incentive for a challange would just make things into a competition.

[hardy grotto]

no one can ego with it if it's not special

[tardy ingot]

Rework boosters pls

[burnt inlet]

Imagine boosters could like unlock certain areas in levels

But those boosters are super rare

[ripe hamlet]

pls no more booster grinding

[burnt inlet]

Boosters in this game are decently broken imo

[tardy ingot]

random boosters that not only vary from useless to gamebreaking mechanic busters but also dont really indicate for why they are good or not (or what they rly change) are great wdym

[tardy ingot]

I dont think ive ever said smth like 3 to anyone in gtfo at least (but ive been told that :> )

Cant say I never said it for league… gotta flame salty enemies somehow

[burnt inlet]

Im gonna build a glowstick build

[tardy ingot]

ask leonardo for how that goes

[burnt inlet]

Leonardo DiCaprio?

Leonardo davinci?

[tardy ingot]

this guy

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[tardy ingot]

@wet bear

[burnt inlet]

Mb chief

Oh that guy

[tardy ingot]

Nono

That guy

is this

@zealous canopy

[burnt inlet]

Wat

[wet bear]

What again

[burnt inlet]

Wait so Leonardo = Alex?

Wat

[wet bear]

Wait he tagged me not about pablo exploding by mines

wtf

[burnt inlet]

Im so confused

😭🙏Eva is doing the typical German jokes again

[wet bear]

You just needed to learn lore

[burnt inlet]

Too newgen😔

[tardy ingot]

Its a joke for their names on my discord

„This guy“
„That guy“

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

This guy stinks (family guy reference I believe)

[zealous canopy]

[frail heart]

that one guy

hmm

[hardy grotto]

real ones know

Buy a microphone and don't use cheats/mods when playing GTFO...👍

🇸🇪 Btw, I beat R6 and R7 without checkpoints... have you? Can't prove it though... no badge or cosmetic for that... ❌

[ocean lance]

LMAO

funny

[frail heart]

The emojis top it all off

[burnt inlet]

God I hate Swedes

We so dumb frfr

[digital chasm]

Hey, is it possible to reset my progression?

i love the game and want a reset

[burnt inlet]

Prolly via deleting ur saves folder

[uneven kiln]

there is no saves folder

[burnt inlet]

Oh

[digital chasm]

yeah i had a look in the fodlers and couldnt find anything i recognized

[uneven kiln]

we only have a logs folder

[burnt inlet]

I meant the appdata one?

[digital chasm]

im no expert tho

[burnt inlet]

Unfortunate ig

[uneven kiln]

the devs are capable of resetting our progress but I dont think they do that anymore

[digital chasm]

i will contninue to fiddle with the files i guess

[burnt inlet]

@calle frfr reset this guys progress

[uneven kiln]

I would love if they would reset my progress on R6 specifically so I could compensate for the cosmetic deficit

also reset @burnt inlet so has to do R6C3 PE and logs again

[burnt inlet]

Bro

I don’t wanna do that again

Says (insert the country ur in)

[frail heart]

what if i said denmark is better

how does that make you feel

[burnt inlet]

Well we all know Australians are upside down so obviously they’d pick the worst country to be the best🙃

[solar charm]

Does anyone have experience playing GTFO with a gamepad?

[uneven kiln]

Like a Dualshock/Steam or Logitech gamepad?

[solar charm]

Yeah!

[steep ivy]

nah Wii U gamepad

[uneven kiln]

So, yes I do but you run into a huge problem before long

you can't really type terminal commands

in any sort of proficient manner

[solar charm]

Checks out

Thankfully I'm rarely on terminal duty w/ my team so I should be fine

Any other issues?

[uneven kiln]

not that I've encountered, other than some later missions wanting multiple people on terminals at the same time

[tiny wyvern]

Gamepad issues?

Um... do you have bots?

If you do

Good luck binding the Q commands

You can do it

But it breaks your flow so badly without something like a ps4/5 controller touchpad

you might actually just die

Also reminder that toggle run means that after you uncrouch you will auto run

Always fun to run into a giant forgetting you have sprint on

And wake something up

On that front, stick drift is also very fun

Cause if you move even slightly you'll wake stuff up when they blink

[uneven kiln]

true... my controller is new and has config for deadzone to prevent drift

[tiny wyvern]

I can go on
should I?

[grizzled patrol]

The aim assist is very strong in Here, you have to barely aim

[uneven kiln]

(for the record, due to the difficulty of terminal commands, I don't play GTFO with a controller)

[tiny wyvern]

(I do)

(my pain is immesurable)

I did it at first to prove a point

Honestly it turned out really well

I spent more time on the binds than the game itself

[solar charm]

I'll keep all this in mind, thanks gang :>

[tiny wyvern]

You also have gyro aiming for the handheld controllers turned on by default

Which helps with the no aim assist thing if you have good wrists

[soft crater]

[tiny wyvern]

hey solace

[steep ivy]

what are best melee weapons to give bots?

[uneven kiln]

it doesnt matter, they are hardcoded to always use (Sledgehammer I think)? no matter what weapon you give, and is just a cosmetic change, I give them all knives so it looks funny

[pastel lava]

Im the type of person who fights by entering the first line when sleepers wake or fighting, what kind of gun suits me and how should I position myself? I keep getting hit by a user's fire or interfering with the person behind me because I'm in the wrong position. If there's a similar style of senior users, please advise

[grizzled patrol]

Sniper rifle

[pastel lava]

ok

I will try

[burnt inlet]

Don’t walk in front of shots, bad habit I have

Also I’d suggest sniper rifle and DMR

And shotgun sentry

And spear

[pastel lava]

shotgun recoil sucks

[burnt inlet]

Goated build tbh

[burnt inlet]

Nonono that’s the sentry

Not the gun

[pastel lava]

oh alright

[burnt inlet]

(Both me and malefic are trolling you)

[grizzled patrol]

Double pump is the best loadout

[pastel lava]

I never used shotgun sentry with 800 playing hour LOL

[burnt inlet]

Nah but I’d suggest sawed off

And maybe hel rifle or scatter (depends on level

[steep ivy]

shotgun sentry: "What is my purpose?"
Players: "for when we wanna mess around"

[burnt inlet]

Can’t go wrong with those

[grizzled patrol]

You should give it a shot. With Back damage multiplier it is pretty good

[burnt inlet]

Im gonna ping Eva

[pastel lava]

Is HEL shotgun good in R7~R8?

[steep ivy]

i've seen bots running with bats/spears though

[grizzled patrol]

Its Bad. Deals Almost No damage.

[pastel lava]

then choke is better

[burnt inlet]

They use the same stats as hammer (I believe) no matter the melee u selected on them

[uneven kiln]

yep, it's just a cosmetic thing

internally it's always the same weapon though

[steep ivy]

that would explain why seems like able to 2 hit giants, they must all hit at the exact same time

[uneven kiln]

I use Knives so I can see them smash giant limbs in 1 hit when normally that isnt possible remotely with the Knife

[steep ivy]

alright i'll do that for the funny next time in lobby, time for me to continue not being able to see (R6BX)

[uneven kiln]

I love R6BX so much

[civic wave]

I gotta clip something from my PC, after I'm ready

[burnt inlet]

One of my fav levels

[steep ivy]

will say, big fan of sawed-off
thanks for suggesting it whoever it was

[burnt inlet]

The most OP main weapon

Lmao

[steep ivy]

especially when dealing with bots that don't shoot

[burnt inlet]

Hel rifle is nice when 2 people line up at the end of a level

Or optionally when @grizzled patrol is fighting a tank

[steep ivy]

think you mean when they're fighting a tank and you

[burnt inlet]

Yep

Accidentally friendly fired the tank tho

[steep ivy]

reported for friendly fire

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

I think this is better

Less clutter

[candid light]

Hey am new but i like the pdw with thermal is there a good weapon special pair with it?

[steep ivy]

depends on the situation

[fathom ice]

sniper

source trust

[burnt inlet]

Hel rifle/scattergun is always a good option, I’d prolly just experiment

[candid light]

okay bet ill take yall words for it 😂 this game is super hard

[undone raven]

Sniper is the best boss kill source me 🔥

[violet laurel]

pro tip dont take anyones word for anything here

[steep ivy]

i've started to enjoy using the techman veruta xii, mainly cos i need that hoard clear

[fathom ice]

unironically sniper is good

if ure dealing w shadow giants

[steep ivy]

if you're good*

[undone raven]

Yeah but I'm too ass to hit invis giant heads

[fathom ice]

team u have pdw

just look where the head is when they wind up their lick

and shoot it

[undone raven]

I never use pdw

Just use scatter at that point idk

[steep ivy]

some of us don't have over 3k hours though

[fathom ice]

neither do i

question was about pdw

I gave an idea

[steep ivy]

must've been someone else

[undone raven]

True true

[candid light]

Im just asking for advice 💔

[violet laurel]

yuh dony worry bout it im just kind of poking fun at how most of the time when asking things youll get 2 joke answers and a real one

[ocean spindle]

pablo comes in says the worst answer in the most serious tone posible leaves

[digital mural]

Run bullpup, is better.

[undone raven]

The wisdom is unmatched😧

[candid light]

imma needa check all of these weapon out 😩

[tardy ingot]

Can you stop holy shit

[steep ivy]

in my opinion, different levels require different weapons (mainly cos if playing with ai you basically just have 4 tools instead of 1)

[candid light]

u can control A.i? they keep making lots of noises for me 😂

[steep ivy]

no, bots guns won't alert enemies and they won't attack anything until they are alerted

you can get them to place sentries/mines/c-foam (is quite finicky though)

[tardy ingot]

Ignore basically anything malefic said…

[frail heart]

probably just ignore in general

[frail heart]

Yes its very good. It is in the top 3 main weapons

[steep ivy]

a note though, if you do have an ai, i suggest giving them the bio-tracker as they will mark enemies remarkably well (just means won't be able to see where enemies are with heart-rate things

[digital mural]

You can make them follow players, use tools and pick up obj items

Press Q and you'll see a bunch of voice commands

[steep ivy]

Q > 2 > 5-7 will make them pick up/drop objectives (they can also sometimes get objectives from quite far away though not exactly sure)
Q > 1 > 5-9 will make them use tools/items (have to be looking rather close in my experience or else they'll said "I can't do that")

[frail heart]

its Q > 2 for objective items

[steep ivy]

is it?

[frail heart]

yes

Q > 1 is tools

[steep ivy]

my brain doesn't really think it's muscle memory by now

[grizzled patrol]

Hell nah

[inner inlet]

❌

[candid light]

do people do artifact run? or there permanent buffs somewhere?

[topaz anvil]

no permanent buffs, so if you want boosters you gotta grind for em

[candid light]

saaaad betbet

[ocean spindle]

boosters are also a help but if u cannot beat a level without it's not gonna get much better

use them as a plus not as a crutch

[digital mural]

There is perfect boosters which makes the booster have perfect stats and have unlimited uses

However

That mod slightly goes beyond the line of cheating

[candid light]

oh nah am good for that then 😂

[hidden radish]

W a h

[runic roost]

HUH

[digital mural]

Chat

What are we doing reading 3 weeks old messages

[frail heart]

i linked it in another chat ppable

[burnt inlet]

^

[digital mural]

Chat

You guys are weird

But at least I have more range than a C foam trip mine

[runic roost]

lies

[pastel lava]

what rundowns recommended for beginners

[undone raven]

R5 bro it's the best one ❤️

/j just rundown 1 and 6

[pastel lava]

R5....

[tardy ingot]

^

[pastel lava]

best annoying rundown R5

[undone raven]

The only fun levels in r5 is b1 d2 and e1 imo

[digital mural]

Rundown 1 is the easiest and simplest

Rundown 6 is also easy-ish but ramps up in difficulty really fast

And also has a lot more advanced mechanics

[undone raven]

Bx being harder than cx bro 😭

[tardy ingot]

b1 wtf

[safe cradle]

In what universe?

[tardy ingot]

none

[fathom ice]

the only thing b1 has is reactor

rest is kinda bad

[tardy ingot]

main is neutral

reactor itself is pretty decent but has a horrid walk up

I dont think anybody in existence can defend secondary

[undone raven]

Isn't that the reactor

[tardy ingot]

reactor is ovl

[undone raven]

It's so fun ♥️

Crazy hel line

[tardy ingot]

its a decent shooting sim

but like, you go through multiple dark zones of boring stealth to get there and then its only shooting
(would be alright still)

but then you gotta do the fucking slog of secondary

[undone raven]

Yeah I haven't played it in a while so I forgot the unfun parts

I just remembered ovl being fun

[undone raven]

The last running part of bx is lowk hard

Maybe I had a bad team idk

[frail heart]

Tf you mean we are weird did the see that mfs message

[topaz anvil]

🐟

[mighty jungle]

hi friendo friends i finished like a script for a guide to the game and while im too scared to send the full thing to see if i got all my information correct i would like to ask
is there anything you think a new player should know before or during their first few level completions?

[ocean lance]

probably just send it

it's easier to correct

[mighty jungle]

fuck 😞

[ocean lance]

i'm not too sure anymore on what a new player should know when starting out

[mighty jungle]

its written in markdown cause i originally made it in obsidian just copy pasted it into google docs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14MsCeCSuZtSezM2NPYYRYUmQH2p5fxdkQoanK_Ojh_8/edit?usp=sharing

is pretty long but everyone can comment

[thick stump]

you can add to the bio-tracker that it can only mark awake enemies and not sleeping enemies, it could be a little confusing for beginners if they don't understand this at first

[burnt inlet]

Don’t like the spear being a choice

Not even an elitist

[mighty jungle]

they found the spear line 💔

[burnt inlet]

Beginning on spear is like

[mighty jungle]

its joever

[burnt inlet]

Crutching hard

[civic wave]

it's not crutching because it doesn't benefit you in any way

it just like

[digital mural]

Spear forces you to play bad

That it's problem

[mighty jungle]

💔 consistency

[civic wave]

pidgeon holes you into learning the game a certain way and getting bad impressions

[digital mural]

You won't have consistency with spear in a lot of the game levels

It forces you to go slow

[mighty jungle]

yea thats why i say to switch off it in later levels after you've learned hitboxes on spear

because i know its bad late game

[burnt inlet]

Thing is if you learn hitboxes with spear you’ll have a hard time hitting them with hammer/understanding hammer, there’s been several times where I run towards an enemy and my charge just running out BUT me moving crosshair up still gets the kill

[thick stump]

also very important for beginners because this isn't explained in the tutorial, you can cancel charged attacks with right click

[mighty jungle]

but thats hard to understand for a new player
the ability to have a lot of range and a consistent middle of crosshair hit makes sense
instead of the swing of a hammer where if you're out of range by even a little bit you can miss and hit lower than you intend

its not intuitive

[mighty jungle]

i will add this

[digital mural]

Spear biggest problem is that it just doesn't work in actual combat

Stealth? Sure, hitbox is nice and range is good

But when you are fighting enemies awake, scout wave or error alarm, spear falls down haaaaard

And those are the situations where melee DOES matter

Better to get used to something that will be useful for pretty much all the game than wasting your time in a bad melee

[burnt inlet]

Thing is you kinda want them as beginners to get comfy with getting close, if you aren’t teaching them to get close they’ll end up fighting waves at even longer distances and they’ll be wanting to kill scouts via shooting instead of meleeing

[safe cradle]

Minor thing but "Mines are best paired with C-Foam" it's the other way around, Mines have more use-cases without C-Foam than the other way around. C-Foaming enemies is only really used for cscouts and nmscouts, the other case is permafoaming and that also needs a mine. Or ladderfoaming but that's borderline bug exploiting.

[thick stump]

I started the game with spear and the reason why it is so bad that you are slow, can't dodge enemy's attacks and also you can't really stagger them with your hits, so against awake enemies it is really bad

[mighty jungle]

ill fold and change it 😞

[burnt inlet]

^ and also for foaming enemies that’s like later on, worth mentioning but not close to ”waves of enemies” cuz then they’d prolly use it on waves of enemies

[mighty jungle]

ill change this ty

i cant change them now but ill write them down for when im at my pc

[thick stump]

also long range aggro is only explained on a basic level, do you want to keep it this way because beginners would maybe have hard time to understand it or do you want to explain it more in detail?

[burnt inlet]

@mighty jungle prolly should mention consumables (unless I’m blind) and its resources not recourses

[sudden nexus]

it's not bad late game, it's just bad

[burnt inlet]

Also prolly avoid shotgun sentry should be mentioned

[sudden nexus]

I LOVE SHOTGUN SENTRY

[burnt inlet]

And I’d prolly move around the ”tools” section (specifically under the weapons)

[burnt inlet]

Do I need to ping Eva on ur ass?

[little pilot]

i love how shotgun sentry is so bad it needs to get mentioned to not pick

[thick stump]

shotgun sentry is super strong but consums a lot of ammo which makes it really bad

[digital mural]

Shotgun sentry is in the game

[little pilot]

shotgun lover spotted, execute @tardy ingot

[minor fractal]

It's not super strong

If it were, it wouldn't be as bad that it consumes a lot of ammo.

[sudden nexus]

when it hits enemies its ok

when it hits

[minor fractal]

But it misses a fuckton, and doesn't actually have that much damage per shot

[little pilot]

i didnt know shotgun sentry can hit enemies

[worthy sandal]

man why do ppl just hop in random vc without looking the lfg post, and when they come in, they just start asking what r we doing

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t shotgun sentry like me and TK’s more than hits enemies?

[little pilot]

shotgun sentry just has necrophilia

[burnt inlet]

Thats why you put the lfg post in the vc description

[digital mural]

Holy moly is that Doro?

🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[worthy sandal]

doro orange yummy

[sudden nexus]

erm rule 7 🤓

[burnt inlet]

As if there’s moderation in this server

They just slapped automod and gg’s (still love ya soy and co)

[ocean lance]

whats long range % for different melees

[civic wave]

it's in eva's video

[ocean lance]

but

oof

okayy

[civic wave]

i aint looking it up for you

but i will let you know where to find it

probably also somewhere on the wiki but idk the page

[ocean lance]

i was looking on the wiki

and couldnt findit

thats why i asked

[tardy ingot]

it do be in the video

it differs between kill and non kill

also wait

its not on the wiki?

[tardy ingot]

but here
knife kill - 30%
other kill - 42,5%
non kill attacks/shove - 75%

[ocean lance]

ty

[civic wave]

The long-range aggro can not happen if at least one enemy already woke (either by the proximity aggro or by the long-range aggro), and have a grace period of few seconds after that. It means that unlike the proximity aggro, the long-range aggro can only wake up a single sleeper. It also means having two sleepers clustered is the best setup to ensure no other enemy will be awoken while dispatching them.
Example with 2 clustered enemies that will wake up from the proximity aggro, and another sleeper unable to wake up from the long-range aggro:
that's all wiki says on LR aggro

it also says a foamed sleeper can't be alerted, which while technically true some actions taken while the enemy is foamed will lead it to wake up afterwards

[tardy ingot]

like doing dmg to it

[civic wave]

shoving too i think

judging from the r1c1

[mighty jungle]

i swear to god i ctrl f and replaced all of them cause obsidian just had the wrong spelling
also i did mention consumables but not flashlight extra mines or glowsticks like at all
i could add them

[mighty jungle]

i wanted to keep it simple and just how to avoid it since its kind of annoying for new players when a far away enemy wakrs up randomly

[burnt inlet]

Yea do that, say glowsticks are never good enough to bring over anything else, at least not for beginners

[mighty jungle]

😭

i will

[burnt inlet]

Flashlights are good at stages where you’ve already cleared rooms could be okay to mention

[mighty jungle]

i love lrf ❤️

[burnt inlet]

Also idk where to find the consumables tab¿

[mighty jungle]

instant stage 3

[tardy ingot]

tbf every consumable has a niche

[burnt inlet]

Some are better than others tho

[tardy ingot]

glowsticks simply are being visually pleasing and the rare good visibility without wanting to flashlight

[burnt inlet]

Like glowsticks is unironically almost never good

[mighty jungle]

yk

i straight up didnt add it

[burnt inlet]

Yea lol

I was gonna say

[mighty jungle]

it just goes over resources in resource lockers

[fathom ice]

i've seen like

[burnt inlet]

Also I think mines are worse than mine deployer in terms of like dmg/mine

[fathom ice]

one case glowsticks actually being life saving

[burnt inlet]

And foam nade is better than one charged cfoam launcher

[mighty jungle]

erm technically can be used in a dark room to illuminate enemies without waking them!

[burnt inlet]

Life saving for me none, good once

[tardy ingot]

thats the 2nd one I noted

[fathom ice]

wait till you discover EMPs

[tardy ingot]

tho ngl
ive used glowsticks more for screenshots than their intended purpose... which isnt a lot either way

[burnt inlet]

Electromagnetic pulses?

[mighty jungle]

whenever i pick them up a throw all of them while walking around randomly

[fathom ice]

yes !!

[burnt inlet]

Oh shit

Also dunno if you have noted this but cfoam takes nine blobs for doors to be fully foamed

Which isn’t the full charge of a foam launcher

[tardy ingot]

throwing them to see if they stay up somewhere high in the geometry

[burnt inlet]

btw Eva frosty said my spot was shit so I didn’t bother sending it to you

[mighty jungle]

i didn't mention the little details in most stuff like that
i was planning on maybe making a different video for advanced stuff but

[burnt inlet]

That’s basics tho imo

[tardy ingot]

bruh

@frail heart stop being toxic

[burnt inlet]

He said ”not really good”

And I agree

[tardy ingot]

bad spots can be the best spots

[mighty jungle]

nuh uh

[burnt inlet]

Smh

[fathom ice]

hms

[mighty jungle]

you think i wanna tell a new player he gotta shoot 9 balls on a door instead of just charging the thing

i should probably mention the door goes green mode when its fully reinforced

[burnt inlet]

Yea prolly that

[agile field]

I love heading my shake

[ocean lance]

heading my snake

[uneven kiln]

how to make glowsticks at least decent

It’s really wack that fog repellers last longer, provide more light, and have additional utility (repelling fog)

There’s only a handful of dark enough missions to even consider them over even an LRF

[fathom ice]

team I don't think u ever take glowsticks instead of LRF

[solar charm]

Personally, I like glowsticks a lot more than LRF

[digital mural]

Make them a snack

[tiny wyvern]

Glowsticks are nice in fog stealth if your bio's a bot/your teammate is essentially a bio bot

And doesn't tell you anything

[steep ivy]

Nah I got my Hackett ai, "hands off cocks"

[south ice]

Does fog affect long range aggro? If i can't see through the fog to the other sleeper am i good?

[minor fractal]

It has no effect

Enemies act as if fog does not exist

[sudden nexus]

you cant tell me what to do

[rapid warren]

🤨

[sudden nexus]

go back to gambling

gamble boy

[rapid warren]

✋😐🤚

absolute cinema

[whole summit]

Is there a list of weapons that were in each rundown? I want to try running through some of them with the weapons that they had during the original release

[pastel lava]

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F
AMD RX7600
ram: 32GB

good pc for playing gtfo?

[steep ivy]

i mean i got a
Ryzen 5 7600
RTX 3060ti
32gb ddr5 clock speed of 5600MT/s

and i'm able to hit 120 fps with moderately high settings

though graphics card very loud and hot

[molten pawn]

Should we continue our journey today

[neat trail]

Room for another hand?

[molten pawn]

I don’t know if he responded yet

But sure

[neat trail]

I shall be waiting, like yesterday

[molten pawn]

I didn’t turn on mention when I responded to him

@mild blaze

[mild blaze]

Yeah gimme a sec

[molten pawn]

Now we need @vale kraken

[mild blaze]

aight im ready whenever

[molten pawn]

I’ll make the Id

You set up the vc

it's taking a bit to open up

109775242993939476

[digital mural]

Bro

I play in a GTX 1650

16GB of RAM

Also you can read the game requirements in the game steam page

[tiny wyvern]

for reference he and I both play on laptops

[faint flame]

Mainly finding my movement game to be wonky. Keep being downed when cornered mainly (not used to the dash, dodge aspect, got DRG on the brain which is a slower refreshing dash for movement lockdowns, just gotta adapt a bit).

Any good coverage on movement?

[hoary mason]

Dashes kinda destroy your stam and aren't that usefull

[faint flame]

Gotcha

[hoary mason]

Just walk sideways

[faint flame]

Lowkey think thats the aspect I haven't quite put together in it.

Seems obvi when pointed out.

Thnks.

[tardy ingot]

also dont ever press/hold a/d when sprinting

it slows your ass down

just w, sprint and look where you are going

[hoary mason]

There's a tad bit more nuance to that, but essentially the most important part for you not to run yourself into dead ends/corners from which the only way out - is through enemies. You should always have escape routes to places where you can regroup with the team and then start stabilizing.

[sudden nexus]

they are called dead ends because you will end up dead

[hoary mason]

[civic wave]

time for the hanimoon micro guide

[frail heart]

they can be good beginners just dont use them properly

[hoary mason]

Yeh I know

[faint flame]

Alsooo started thinking a lil vertically.

Just realized hey you can climb on top of a lot more than I thought.

[hoary mason]

[undone raven]

How to burst drag 😭

[tiny wyvern]

with like Burst Cannon?

[burnt inlet]

Burst drag?

[tiny wyvern]

A good dpi mouse and practice

[burnt inlet]

Oh

Nvm

I got it

[tiny wyvern]

Dw, it's very easy to misunderstand that term

[burnt inlet]

Yea lmao

[undone raven]

Yeah it just looks kind of hard

[inner inlet]

Wtf is a burst drag😭

[undone raven]

I might need to get used to burst cannon charge up kinda messes me up

[steep ivy]

hitting multiple targets with one burst

[burnt inlet]

Dragging ur crosshair on a new enemy mid burst

Imagine it’s the same feeling as doing double hits

[inner inlet]

Bruh thats got to be hard has fuck😭 🙏

[burnt inlet]

Prolly

[undone raven]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

[burnt inlet]

Its gtfo after all

[tiny wyvern]

Even if you ask someone like eva or frosty they'll probs come up with the same answer

There might be a few more tricks to it but yea

[civic wave]

lining up enemies can help but really it's practice, knowing the distances you need to move your mouse, and a tiny bit of good fortune

because missing is upsetting

[undone raven]

Thx ✅ I'll practice

[ripe hamlet]

what would be the levels i should try to do if i want to do some solo clear

ive done r1a1 and r1b1

[steep ivy]

solo or solo with bots?

[ripe hamlet]

true solo

[steep ivy]

R8E2 easiest mission ever

[ripe hamlet]

still waiting for that seeded solo r8e2 ever since its proven to be possible

[rapid warren]

u could try r6a1, r6b1

and r6ax

all the a levels are pretty soloeable (maybe not for r8a2)

[frail heart]

i might try it out

[ripe hamlet]

[sudden nexus]

the goat

[undone raven]

Bro acting like he solos anything

Hop on duos w/ me unc

[rapid warren]

😐

unc is cr4zy

go finish ur subtraction homework

[frail heart]

go back to the slots

[uneven kiln]

Did Shadows crawl back in OG, and if so, when? I just stood around during the Shadow Alarm in R7D1 for around 10 minutes and I never saw a single one, it was always the shooter animation set, or both striker running animation sets

[burnt inlet]

how many hits does a door need from hammer to break?

[uneven kiln]

3 fully charged swings from any melee iirc

I should probably add that to wiki

[burnt inlet]

seems like we can run speedrun speedrun strats now

[undone raven]

Go back to the retirement home

Sorry you can't play bc they shut the Wi-Fi off at 6pm

[sudden nexus]

takes way more than that with knife

[ocean lance]

was gonna say

this is some massive misinfo lmao

[burnt inlet]

lmao anyways we gonna run hammers

[sudden nexus]

checkpoint for health >>>

[wet bear]

Just use this missinfo

[ocean lance]

huge if true

[uneven kiln]

let me check the melee page

[sudden nexus]

if your knife dosent break doors in 3 hits your not fully charging correctly

[ocean lance]

your knife is defective

and you need to get it checked out by the santonian industry

[uneven kiln]

OK, found the charts

[sudden nexus]

it works just fine :c

[ocean lance]

[sudden nexus]

[ocean lance]

[uneven kiln]

#gtfo-media message

[sudden nexus]

[ocean lance]

thst is such a confusing chart

[sudden nexus]

you are a confusing chart

[burnt inlet]

no?

[ocean lance]

OK mb

[uneven kiln]

that's what I was misremembering, how would you reorganize it

[ocean lance]

it's not confusing it's just that

if you're alone

your never gonna double fully charge a small door

you'll always full charge into two tap

otherwise it's not confusing at all

[uneven kiln]

this wiki page needs updating in other places too, putting on my to do list, thanks

[ocean lance]

nws it's a good info

maybe like put the most efficient way aswell

[uneven kiln]

yeah

[frail heart]

noooooo

if that was the case then bat would be the meta

its on the doors wiki page

[uneven kiln]

yeah, i double checked

and posted the chart in gtfo media

[inner inlet]

Bat is meta tho🎣

[patent mulch]

Add the damage it deals to the door per hit or something

[uneven kiln]

I don't break doors often since it's almost never necessary in non-speedrun gameplay

the main exception being after an alarm and needing to get back into a room with a foamed door due to supplies or consumables like a melter if I took repellers for the alarm

[burnt inlet]

yea we gonna break two doors

[tardy ingot]

or when you dont want to hack a small door

[burnt inlet]

ofc eva hates hacking

no patience

[tardy ingot]

it becomes a tad tedious after 2k hours

[burnt inlet]

lmao one could imagine

JuSt UsE mOdS 4HeAd

[uneven kiln]

I think a good example of a level where I break doors is probably R2A1

[burnt inlet]

can u like go to malefics house and wake him up eva? 3 hour drive ez

[upbeat epoch]

Is it faster to break a lock with two hammer hits or to charge it a bit and then hit?

[inner inlet]

Faster to shoot it🤷‍♂️

[patent mulch]

charge when going towards it

[inner inlet]

Thats actualy genius wtf🤯

[patent mulch]

yeah ik nobody would ever think of that

[wild flare]

just shoot lock 👌

[rapid warren]

use a lock melter on it

trust me bro

[inner inlet]

Lock melters don't work unc😭 they broke last update🎣

[grizzled patrol]

They Work, they Just Melt Something Else now

[rapid warren]

my balls

😋

[undone raven]

He's too senile to remember 😔

[south moth]

How do you do the early mine detonation on blood doors

I've tried it and it hasnt worked for me

[tardy ingot]

Place deep enough inside

Its easiest if you have hybrids spawn in the blood door (or chargers) that are more likely to clip into it

[south moth]

Do u shoot it?

[tardy ingot]

an intentional deep mine explodes on an enemy inside the blood door

[little pilot]

if the mine doesn't explode either cause unlucky or was placed badly shooting it is faster

[hasty crane]

Is that mine better for damage than leaving it slightly outside or is it just faster?

[steep ivy]

i would assume just faster and has a higher chance of hitting hybrids cos they won't have time to run back

[rotund sand]

what exactly are the projectiles the big shooter, shooter and scouts shoot at us

[hasty crane]

Lore wise?

[rotund sand]

and how would it damage us in real life? as in piercing like bullets? glass shards? just pain?

[steep ivy]

they cause emotional damage

[rotund sand]

if scout and another scout breeds, would their child be scout or shooter?

[digital mural]

Scout

[hasty crane]

That's how we get the big scouts in modded rundowns

[rotund sand]

then what about scout and a charger scout?

[hasty crane]

It's scout squared

I'm pretty sure they don't breed
They just pop off the parents body like a cactus

[rotund sand]

what if then

[hasty crane]

There's just a tank with a miniature tank on its arm lol

[rotund sand]

how tanks are created

born from fetus to actual tank or spawns like a tank

[hasty crane]

How it's actually made
The namvi virus

[rotund sand]

duh

[digital mural]

Multiple bodies mutated into one

Kinda like Dead Space

[steep ivy]

namvi virus? nah it's the vahvi virus it turns people blue

[hasty crane]

Blue man group hits different

[patent mulch]

i think i saw some stuff about it being an acid or something since sometimes you can hear it burning when it hits you but also they dont show up on thermals so not sure

[rotund sand]

that makes no sense

[patent mulch]

Say that to infectious fog

Or the entire infection mechanic actually

[ocean spindle]

me when water

[frail heart]

say that to the object situated inside of my pantaloons

[grim grail]

I sometimes cant take damage from projectiles, why does that happen?

[tardy ingot]

Shooter bug

It happens because your magazines stay loaded (same for stuff like shooter projectiles, cfoam etc) if you dont swap guns and that messes with the game

[grim grail]

what do you mean stay loaded?

like not reloading?

[safe cradle]

From my understanding: mag goes through floor (could also be anything else but it's usually mags), and they never get deleted. After a certain distance that breaks the logic the game uses to detect collisions or some shit (it also causes for example foam blobs to go through a door). Let me link you to a full explanation by randomuserhi.

#1255620392660238458 message

[steep ivy]

what about c-foam going through doors?

and what are all the damage multiplers? like i know 2x damage from back but what are multipliers for head/weakpoint and if there are any other ones

[safe cradle]

what do you mean

cfoam through doors is shooterbug

[steep ivy]

and what is/causes that?

[safe cradle]

...read my comment?

[hoary mason]

loaded as their asset stays loaded in and doesn't get cleaned up. If you do a lot of reloads you gonna have a lot of empty magazines on the map and when you restart level, level cleans up, but those empty magazines dont and they start falling indefinitely.

[steep ivy]

my brain didn't fully take in info, my bad

[hoary mason]

The more of them are falling and the more distance they fall the worse becomes memory leak

It leads to projectile based stuff not working properly like shooter bug and cfoam bug

[violet laurel]

can it also cause foam nades to not work properly ?

[grim grail]

so it just goes on forever?

[hoary mason]

Yes

Unless you swap your weapons back-forth in lobby

It forces clean up

[grim grail]

what if game closed

will that reset it?

[hoary mason]

it's closed

ye

[grim grail]

i see

[hoary mason]

you do know how any OS works lmao xd?

[grim grail]

no not really

[steep ivy]

goofy ahh game

[safe cradle]

randomuserhi's post explains everything

[hoary mason]

yee I just repeated that here

[violet laurel]

cuz no one answered that , the multipliers vary per enemy ( head is 1x for chargers, 5x for shooters n 3x for strikers i think ?) someone else scream at me if thr wiki isnt trustworthy but it does list all multipliers for enemies so u can look it up there

[hoary mason]

[[Dealing Damage]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Dealing_Damage

[violet laurel]

aint that convenient

[steep ivy]

well now i know that when playing with people i should be using machine pistol

[tardy ingot]

How did you come to that conclusion

[steep ivy]

my ping is awful
#gtfo-media message

is competitive games like val/cs my ping always hovers around the 77 mark

[tardy ingot]

Just play actual good guns with similar effects at that point

[grizzled patrol]

77??? Thats practically living inside other peoples Walls in GTFO. Most of the time its 200+

[hoary mason]

competitive games have actual guns instead of immitation that we have here

[steep ivy]

i have no idea what ping is on here that's why gave that comparison

[steep ivy]

and magic cough sawed-off shotgun/hel revolver

[steep ivy]

when it comes to using c-foam on doors, can you get away with only using 9 blobs of the stuff? i noticed that if you put it all in the one place the door get the yellow visuals/hardening sound effect

[frail heart]

visual bug

9 blobs will alwayss be the max

[tardy ingot]

the 9th blob just has to be shot on another blob for the effect to appear

[steep ivy]

funky game gonna funky i guess

[little pilot]

basically: if u shoot 9 blobs and last one hits door not another blob u get 99.99999% door foamed, if u hit another blob u get 100.00%

[burnt inlet]

That’s uh

Great game design

[little pilot]

fo the 99.9999% to actually matter u would need to foam that door... for a long time

[burnt inlet]

0 bugs

[little pilot]

far too long for it to realistically matter ever

[steep ivy]

well seeing as ai don't scan on their own, i lose doors almost instantly

[misty kernel]

i still dont understand what cfoam boosters does

does it increase efficiency or like what

[wet bear]

C-foam launcher eats less % of foam with charges

[misty kernel]

well they need to buff that % cuz it still similiar at least for me

[wet bear]

Like you have a lot of efficiency and full charge eats not 20% of tool but like 10%

[misty kernel]

how many +% do u have for that to -50%

wait i just anwsered my own question

[hoary mason]

Yee cfoam efficency only works if you do full charges

[civic wave]

it's a percentage reduction applied to the cost of using the launcher each time you use it

0 value if you go blob by blob

[safe cradle]

yeah

let me post part of an old convo with Darkeva about it

but the gist of it is: min cost is always 1 so tapping is completely useless

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[misty kernel]

i see ty sleepy beepy

[ripe hamlet]

does anyone know giant striker's limb health?

im trying to figure out the amount of damage need to hard stagger it

[wet bear]

15 iirc?

[ripe hamlet]

damn

so i couldve hard stagger it with a single hel gun shot this entire time?

[digital mural]

Isn't hard stagger a limb break?

[ripe hamlet]

yeah

either im dumb or its not just 15hp

[wet bear]

it's 15

[ocean spindle]

take into account u can just kill it on a single stagger cycle if u time ur hel gun right

spam times

[plucky summit]

So me and a friend are trying to play gtfo but am I an idiot? Cause we have 0 idea how to start a match for R1A1

[prime musk]

press on the level, and press "host lobby"
then your friend has to join it, if you are friended on steam they should get an option to join from pressing on r1a1 themselves, otherwise just send them the lobby code

when everyone is in lobby everyone has to ready up before the host (person who hosted the lobby/first slot/pink) gets the option to drop into the mission

[steep ivy]

what would be a good mission for me to practice killing giants?

[minor fractal]

R2B2

[steep ivy]

cheers, sick of my ai squad being wiped

[ocean spindle]

as long as u can hit a second stagger quickly it becomes ez

and u can do that with every melee except sometimes knifee dependin on how the giant moves

[steep ivy]

my main issue has been getting worried that my ai are getting clobbered so i don't fully charge spear as such doesn't stagger

[ocean spindle]

try practicing giants solo

[steep ivy]

yeah that's what i'm doing now

[ocean spindle]

ah

skdmkm

i thougt u were epracticing with the 3 bots there

[steep ivy]

how do i need to position myself to be able to consistently pierce enemies with the spear?

[ocean spindle]

u cannot pierce eenemies with a melee

[steep ivy]

the spear you can

[ocean spindle]

that was a feature about... 4 years ago

now u cant

[steep ivy]

i swear i've done it multiple times

[ocean spindle]

u CAN double hit but its a funfact more than useful

if it penetrated- it would be insane

[steep ivy]

yeah the wiki isn't mentioning anything about it being able to pierce

when there are two giants right beside each other how should i go about dealing with them?

[ocean spindle]

with bots u just shoot
i dont think theress any mission that will punish u for doing that
or evade them

as in r2b2 first zone where u can go without killin anything

with a team u usually split 2 and 2

[minor fractal]

Generally, if there's a nasty cluster that you don't think you can clear sneakily, you save it for last.

Then either try for a stealth strat on it, or kill it loud.

[ocean spindle]

either way with bots u always are the heavy weapons guy

as bots just mostly serve to clean off smalls and stagger bigs if necessary

u usually always have a 30 dmg weapon at minimun

[steep ivy]

so weapons such as?

[ocean spindle]

uh a lot of guns have 30 dmg ksmdkms

hel rifle high cal sawed off choke mod pump shottie

sometimes u can go for a burst cannon/scatteergun but those are way mroe situational

as they hinder ur ability to be flexible a bit

so for waves of smalls u deepend on ur main

[steep ivy]

so something like carbine and hel-rifle?

[ocean spindle]

yes that works :3

thats a very based combo

should about work for all missions

[steep ivy]

what about ai? what weapons should i be giving them?

[ocean spindle]

bots shoot on line of sight, to any enemy regardless of the type it is, and can be hit or miss with their shots
so that leaaves prec weapons out of the equation, and things like scattergun too
so it ends up with machineguns being about the best, burst cannon is good too as they burst cancel

and for their main, burst rifle works very well, hel revo can also be an option

with mg + br u also notice their ammo barely draining

[steep ivy]

yeah i learnt a while ago shotguns are not a good fit for them

[ocean spindle]

yep they friendly firee a lot with those

:3

oh u can also sometime put em with a helautopistol if u feel like ur gettin overrun a lot

like with missions with chargers

[civic wave]

PUB LOADOUT

[ocean spindle]

ok heavy smg user

[civic wave]

i have never used heavy smg you mexican gay boy

[ocean spindle]

no i have i am the hsmg user :3

teehee

[steep ivy]

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[ocean spindle]

remembes u want something with a lil morre dmg, ur thee giant killer

otherwise its fine, maybe the veruta is better than the arba for that one bot, and maybes the machinepiss can be changed for something for more range

cuz remembs they b shootin on los

so if an enemy is across the room they try to get it

[steep ivy]

would high cal pistol work?

[ocean spindle]

yeppers

[steep ivy]

alrighty, hopefully the R2E1 attempts go a bit better today

[ocean spindle]

the what

[steep ivy]

that's what i've been attempting past few days

[ocean spindle]

uh

how far u gotten

?

[steep ivy]

having either both the hsu and the powercell or just one at second last sec door i think