gtfo-related-questions

[frozen estuary]

i mean, there are clears

[frail heart]

yeah but they arent speeds

[frozen estuary]

you can just put them on sr.com

[prime musk]

you maybe get a clear but clear != speed

[frail heart]

debatable

one condition for src is the intent to go fast

its like the difference between a normal clear of a level and a speed clear

[frozen estuary]

that's very vague ngl

[frail heart]

not rly

[frozen estuary]

although i see your point

[frail heart]

if you are like "let me move all my res to good spots and make sure im stocked up and do all this pointless setup" its not really speedrunning

its usually quite obvious

and esp with how small the community is people know how others play

[fathom ice]

going long in solo speed is prob a dqd

[frozen estuary]

there's no clear line you can draw where that stops being a speedrun

[frail heart]

so if i do a 20 minute r8a1 solo they know im not doing a speedrun

[prime musk]

depends on the expedition ngl

[frozen estuary]

because moving res is something you can do in a speedrun asw (provided you do it fast)

[frail heart]

someone else could do a 15 minute r8a1 solo and it could be considered a speed

[fathom ice]

what would be an example

[frail heart]

not 4 man

[prime musk]

r8e1 sec solo

[fathom ice]

u don't go long I think

u just spawn chickens

and it's fine

[prime musk]

team is that allowed

[fathom ice]

yes

[frail heart]

yes

[prime musk]

damb

[fathom ice]

LMAO

[prime musk]

still is long kiting

[frail heart]

uhhh solo r8e1 wr does it

[fathom ice]

nah

u just run

with chickens

[prime musk]

sky im pretty sure "im running away from spawncap of giants to avoid fighting anything"

qualifies as going long

[fathom ice]

zed

ure pushing progression

[frail heart]

the chicken thing doesnt lon gkite at all

i believe

[fathom ice]

I don't believe so

[prime musk]

yes that's what 95% of long kiting is???

[fathom ice]

cuz it's 18 mins or smth

[fathom ice]

nah

[frozen estuary]

i mean, idk. if someone makes a solo sr without long kiting and another person does it with long kiting and faster (because they don't need to go for extra resources for ex) are you gonna invalidate the latter person just because they long kite? :/

[prime musk]

you just push with spawncap behind to avoid having to fight shit

[fathom ice]

if in ur terms

running to get doors and stuff

is long

[frozen estuary]

that's just not a good objective metric imo

[fathom ice]

idk man

[frail heart]

no because long kiting doesnt mean a dq

long kiting being a dq was never a thing

[fathom ice]

long is more of a surviving type beat

[frozen estuary]

in speedruning the only thing that matters is the clearing speed imo (and following the rules of the category ofc)

[frail heart]

Ok this is one of the rules for src

"Runs done with the purpose/intent to undermine the spirit of speedrunning will be denied (this includes but it not limited to: Troll runs, purposefully bad runs, runs that violate the spirit of running)"

[fathom ice]

yeah

long kills the spirit

[frail heart]

No

[frozen estuary]

which is a thing you still need to do in any run :P

[frail heart]

If you need to kite to go faster then it doesnt

[frozen estuary]

that's my point

[fathom ice]

that is correct

[fathom ice]

na

[frozen estuary]

except death% run 🤓

what else is there

[fathom ice]

u rarely kite in speeds

[frozen estuary]

p-mom%

[fathom ice]

except some solos ig

[frozen estuary]

surviving

not kiting

[fathom ice]

i mean

[frail heart]

Basically if you are kiting to go faster there is literally nothing wrong with it

[frozen estuary]

yeah, so long kiting should be fine provided it's faster

[fathom ice]

i feel like this is pointless

[fathom ice]

it just never is

long never is prob

short sometimes

[frozen estuary]

that's a different topic

[frail heart]

its fine if you are speedrunning

[frozen estuary]

and the convo is specifically about solo srs

[fathom ice]

u just reset honestly

if ure forced to long

it's just not worth it

[civic wave]

my brain is cooked because srs to me is a particular acronym

[frail heart]

if you are playing like r7d2 and you are trying to go fast but your skill means you cant shoot it up then kiting isnt bad

you are trying to go fast

thats all that matters

[fathom ice]

I don't think anyone plays that tho

except chill

[frail heart]

bruh

thats not the point

IF someone did

[fathom ice]

I get the point

it's just

slow so no one uses it really

cuz whoever plays speeds is just competent

[frail heart]

Supplemental Restraint System?

[frail heart]

yeah

its still allowed tho

[fathom ice]

ye

ye sure is

[civic wave]

nah, something else

[honest gorge]

bottom surgery?

[frail heart]

sex reassignment surgery?

[fathom ice]

??

[honest gorge]

guessing acronyms

[burnt inlet]

I thought it was serious icl

[civic wave]

ding ding ding

[fathom ice]

ding ding ding

bingo

[civic wave]

so many different fuckin acronyms used for it

[burnt inlet]

Wait who was right? I’m too tired for this tbh

[frail heart]

i dont know any

[frail heart]

me

[past mesa]

Yeah sometimes it is borning

Like in r7d2 current foam strats

Are lame as fuck

So when a level becomes werid most people stop playing it and only the deranged stay

[covert basin]

sleepers react to the ingame voice chat? If they do not, is there any mod or a option in-game to activate this? I feel that if they do not activate while you speak, it would be such a missed opportunity.

[worthy sandal]

theres a mod called proximity chat that will trigger sleeper if u talk

[covert basin]

thanks!

[knotty relic]

Sleeper trigger upon hearing vc would mean no talking for most of the level or wake everything up instantly and do speeds.

[frail heart]

what are you calling me

[digital mural]

You are going to suffer a lot

GTFO isn't exactly made for that kind of stuff

[golden tree]

what is the point of doing the secondaries?

[ocean spindle]

cool gaming points

and more fun

[golden tree]

are there bonus cosmetics or nah?

[ocean spindle]

uhh nopes u just get the one for the completion

and then and ending achievement for doin the rundown with the optionals

some levels are rlly barren without the optionals tho

like r4a2

its a nothing sandwich without overload and sec

[digital mural]

Flexing rights

[upper ginkgo]

getting to experience the other 50% of the game's content

[covert basin]

I like permadeath games do you think this is going to stop me

[ocean spindle]

i feel like itll just get annoying fast

like whaats the point of the communication game to do that

[digital mural]

It's just that GTFO isn't balanced for that

It won't be a fun experience

[covert basin]

yeah nvm i thought it would be cool but i realized i needed to install a third party to be able to put the mod inside of the game

still i know what you mean

[frail heart]

proxy vc would be cool af

without the enemy detection

like i wanna do r4e1 with it

[hybrid pine]

do hybrids have damage reduction on their heads?

[jagged shore]

quite the contrary

[past mesa]

Negative damage reduction

you might say

[azure narwhal]

does the higher numbering for levels (e.g. RXB1 < RXB2) typically mean that that level is harder than the one with a lower number?

[wild flare]

not exactly

[azure narwhal]

does it say anything about the difficulty at all?

its just another B level probs

[wild flare]

yes, difficulty mainly shows in tier letters

it is not 100% always tho, some B tier lvls can be harder then C, etc

[frail heart]

this is the general rule

[azure narwhal]

what is the fastest way of placing down a sentry while moving? when you try to hold down while walking it doesnt let you, so do you have to stand still from start to finish of the "placing bar" filling up or can you just stop at the last moment so that the placement itself happens while you are standing?

[frail heart]

basically stop to start placing then start running just before it finishes

[azure narwhal]

okay, so if i am running at the start of placing the sentry it wont work, even if i stand still like midway through?

[ocean lance]

the whole speedrun going long convo makes way more sense now after yesterday's stream

[worthy sandal]

let them cook

[ocean lance]

fair you right you right

[frail heart]

wdym

dms

[fathom ice]

wdym

dms

[frail heart]

keep yourself safe

[fathom ice]

thanks frosty

did u get runs after I left

[frail heart]

yeah we got 2 in a row

[fathom ice]

W

[frail heart]

sub 19 then sub 21

[fathom ice]

huge

geegs

[errant dome]

massive

[ocean lance]

enormous

[worthy sandal]

gigantic

[fathom ice]

team please

[ocean lance]

astronomical

[turbid lintel]

can sleepers detect movement behind big objects? (not neccesarily a wall, like a bunch or rubbish with no holes (not shelves)

[ocean spindle]

nopies

they need line of sight in order to detect the player

[civic wave]

uninterrupted los

[ocean spindle]

not sure where u could find a bunch of rubbish tho in gtfo that piles up that high

[civic wave]

which is why walking on grates is scary, but near entirely safe

the check keeps getting interrupted and resetting

[turbid lintel]

really? so you can just keep on going even if they do that right below you?

[ocean spindle]

usually yes, but i would not risk it much either cuz ive seen enemies below one wake up from time to time

its hardeer but its still possible

[civic wave]

yes - unless they have uninterrupted line of sight through a small and long crack somewhere

[violet laurel]

hows line of sight determined, is it just uninterrupted straight line between any part of the hitboxes?

[ocean spindle]

uhh its more like an uninterrupted straight line between u and about all of the enemy, like if ur camera has a bit of vision of the head of a striker i believe that still counts as LOS until u cannot see it anymore

[glass also counts as a wall tho, so window panes will kill LOS]

[frail heart]

no

[ocean spindle]

oh

[frail heart]

idk if its a point or like a box but its not the whole enemy

[ocean spindle]

well its at least a box i think

[ripe hamlet]

hi chat

id like some advice about r2d1

weve been running duo and this lvl is giving us big trouble

the entire lvl is not hard, except for the extraction

[wanton hatch]

hi can u add me i can help

[ripe hamlet]

we basically failed there all the time

[burnt inlet]

Don’t play it

Watch scalers tutorial if ur going wrong on pathing tbh

[ripe hamlet]

our loadout is

1. sawoff, hel gun, bio, hammer
2. hel revolver, hel rifle, sniper sentry, hammer

[ocean spindle]

i dont think theres much to extract apart frorm just having enough ammo to not run out at the end, which is more about how u go by the entire level
also having fog repellers

i would change that sniper sentry to a burst

[ripe hamlet]

is there anything we could change to make it better

except for getting gud (obviously)

[burnt inlet]

Are u duoing?

[fathom ice]

just play it slow

[ripe hamlet]

yeah

[ocean spindle]

those gun picks are based u dont have to change those

i would just change the sentry

[fathom ice]

and make sure ur carrying ammo

and ur healthy

geegs

[ocean spindle]

greegs

[ripe hamlet]

im not sure if its the slow wave catching to us or the alarm wave thats overwhelming us

[fathom ice]

just stabilize

don't rush extract prob

[safe cradle]

What happens is perhaps that the last wave spawns on res zone's first room

[ocean spindle]

oncee the alarm ends if u find too many enemies extract direction it was probably a left over wave

[safe cradle]

and they take a while to get to you

@ripe hamlet Are you playing in an actual duo or with 2 bots?

[ripe hamlet]

no bots

[safe cradle]

I'd also get a burst instead of a sniper sentry to be honest

[fathom ice]

sniper has no use there

[ocean spindle]

omg that what i said

[safe cradle]

Considering for example the very last alarm: Spitter zone side spawn is too small of a room, extraction side the enemies take the staircase thingy and there's not a long view for the sniper sentry to shoot

[ripe hamlet]

we just want to get this over with so we can finally see our first e lvl

[safe cradle]

To be honest there's no long view anywhere aside from the very first alarm

[burnt inlet]

Are y’all doing disinfect zone?

[ripe hamlet]

nope

[burnt inlet]

Good I’d say

[fathom ice]

u should

imo

[ripe hamlet]

i thought its easier to do 2 blood door and skip the last alarm

[burnt inlet]

It’s duo they have more than enough disinfect

[fathom ice]

still kinda sus

[ripe hamlet]

and yeah

[fathom ice]

that door is a bunch of free meds tho

[ripe hamlet]

we have tons of disinfect leftover

[ocean spindle]

in a normal team theres more than enough disinfect too

if everyones 100 theres enough without the stattion

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t it like a class 4 or 5 alarm tho?

[fathom ice]

no

it's just a key

[burnt inlet]

No it’s an alarm door

[fathom ice]

and u get a key from a class 3 or smth

[ripe hamlet]

the key is behind a class 4

[fathom ice]

mb

[ocean spindle]

disinfect zone? no

[fathom ice]

4

[safe cradle]

Way I do it is: 611 or 613, whichever has cell, blood door until I get the key, use key ASAP and put it in gen so fog goes as down as possible for the 2 blood door zones then do them

[ocean spindle]

key? it is

[burnt inlet]

Damn thought it was

[safe cradle]

I dont like dis zone not because of the alarm

because most of the zone that has key has fog

[ocean spindle]

tbh with the resource zone is more than enough

[safe cradle]

and it's a pain in the ass

[fathom ice]

i always do dis

in pubs

cuz everyone is 85

smh

[safe cradle]

compared to getting just somewhat lucky

with the 2 blood door cells

C spawn for the one of the left is more or less means free cell

[burnt inlet]

Tbh duoing R2D1 without prior knowledge/experience of it is uhhh interesting to say the least

[ripe hamlet]

its possible for the blood door to not have cell?

[ocean spindle]

never disinfect them

[safe cradle]

and I think the comfiest spawn for the other one is up the top

[safe cradle]

No

[burnt inlet]

Also are y’all doing the gen door?

[safe cradle]

ONLY RNG is where key is and IF 611 OR 613 has CELL

[burnt inlet]

^

[safe cradle]

They NEVER both have cell

[ripe hamlet]

yeah we do the res zone

[burnt inlet]

W’s

[safe cradle]

The 2 blood doors ALWAYS have a cell behind it AND ALWAYS one of them has key

[still trellis]

Hi everyone. Need some (one) help to finish R1C1. I can't complete it solo or with bots. Only 7 full or 8 partial waves to live

[safe cradle]

Problem is only that sometimes one of the cells is in Alabama

other times its very close

[safe cradle]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[safe cradle]

If you actually want boots on the ground help, ask in lfg-beginners

[still trellis]

Thanks

[ripe hamlet]

we are maso and plan on duo clear the entire game

or at least try

[burnt inlet]

R2E1 gonna go crazy

[ripe hamlet]

thats the motivation for beating r2d1

we gotta see how hard E tier actually is

[burnt inlet]

Im guessing y’all haven’t hopped around?

[ripe hamlet]

did a little bit of r8

otherwise we play in rundown order

[burnt inlet]

Have you done a proper reactor or R1C1 only?

[ripe hamlet]

just r1c1 i believe

[burnt inlet]

🙃

[ripe hamlet]

we get stuck at r8b2 secondary before we decided to return to r2d1

[ocean spindle]

r8 is very much to leave to the end ksmdkm

altho c1 might just be ur wall but-

oh well

[ripe hamlet]

its okay

weve been banging our heads against the r2d1 wall for 10 hours already

we can take the beating

[burnt inlet]

lol

same tbh

[fathom ice]

it's a playmore angle

or how ppl call it here skill prog

[burnt inlet]

R2D2 is gonna be fun for them lol

[ripe hamlet]

also

is there any level thats particularly good for practicing kiting?

its probably our biggest weakness right now

[ocean spindle]

R2D1- jk

idk

[ocean lance]

this is half true idk

i used to callout for dis but recently i just dont let them see the medis in res zone

and just overfill even if they're infected

[azure narwhal]

is there a mod that adds new cosmetics to the game without unlocking them automatically? just to expand the "loot pool" after a level xD

[ocean spindle]

i dont think so? at least havent heard of one

probs a thing to ask in the moddin server

[fathom ice]

there's a res zone?

[ocean lance]

in r2d1 ye

the one that needs the cell

[fathom ice]

didn't know mb

I mean not like I play that level anyway

[azure narwhal]

theres a modding server for gtfo?

[ocean spindle]

#hc-modded

[azure narwhal]

thxx

[hushed pagoda]

hello, a friend of mine says enemies alert more instantly if you run at them as opposed to walking uncrouched at them? i haven't noticed this myself, does anyone know if this is actually a thing?

[violet laurel]

it is

walking only wakes them up if they're glowing and tweaking, sprinting always instawakes once youre close to them

[fathom ice]

sprint is a hard trigger

while walking is a soft trigger

[hushed pagoda]

he and I are the ones on the team who do the quick melee kills on smaller enemies, so we can clear rooms fast if we know there aren't giants around

[burnt inlet]

^ to expand on this running towards them with melee charged gets you a hit before they can attack you

But if there’s several it can be 🥴

[fathom ice]

someone drop eva stealth guide

[violet laurel]

unless shooter decides otherwise

[burnt inlet]

#guides-and-reviews message

[hushed pagoda]

wat I meant was he says running st enemies wakes them up "harder" and they can get a hit in and that simply walking gives you a small window

[burnt inlet]

@hushed pagoda

[burnt inlet]

Jump🙃or aim tbh

[hushed pagoda]

personally i don't see a difference, ijust run orwalk with a knife and quick clear

[burnt inlet]

Knoife player obviously

Anyways

[fathom ice]

that's

[burnt inlet]

Check that guide

[fathom ice]

not that

[burnt inlet]

Or not

[fathom ice]

i mean it's helpful but it's not what i meant

[burnt inlet]

Oh yea mb

Uhhhh

Lemme find

#guides-and-reviews message

^ this one

[hushed pagoda]

idk either man it seems to work so far, i was just curious if like, walking at them or running made a difference

it kinda gets on his nerves lol

our scenario earlier was basically a column of 3-4 regular strikers, he called me out for sprinting at them as I killed them sequentially, made a big deal out of it

[burnt inlet]

Uhhhh

I mean did you take dmg?

[hushed pagoda]

no lol

that's the thing

[burnt inlet]

Other than that it’s not that bad

[hushed pagoda]

smth about them waking up "harder" than they already have or smth

[burnt inlet]

It’s actually req in some levels to quick stealth

[hushed pagoda]

idk if I'm just not noticing or if he's having a placebo effect

[burnt inlet]

In timed levels it’s req

[hushed pagoda]

yeye that's why we practice quick clearing rooms together

but he walks at them, i alternate but he gets kinda fussy xd

[fathom ice]

the difference is literally

enemy insta wake --> enemy wakes with a delay

but like

[hushed pagoda]

alternate walking and sprinting i mean

[fathom ice]

ure killing them anyway kek

[hushed pagoda]

yeye okay

thanks lol, i was simply curious

i don't actually intend to change for the few levels I do actually run knives anyway

[azure narwhal]

literally @cobalt swallow

[cobalt swallow]

I take damage from you tho

[hushed pagoda]

ok but do they actually have a delay if you walk instead of running at them

idk if im just blind af and don't see it, but i don see it

[cobalt swallow]

Bros roasting me rn

[hushed pagoda]

i shoulda prefaced this whole question with this lol, it's in the context of quick stealthing

[azure narwhal]

yes, as somebody else mentioned, if you walk its a soft trigger and it puts them in their next "sleeping state"
1.chilling
2.raising their head
3. tweaking
4.awake

so if you walk while they are just chilling they will first go onto the next state which in this case would be raising their head. if you keep walking they will start tweaking and after that they will wake up.

if you run then they will go instantly awake and skip all states

(somebody correct me if im wrong)

[low radish]

You can also instantly awake them by hitting objects close to them

Or shooting

[hushed pagoda]

so im jus blind or not noticing it then huh

[low radish]

Or killing something close to another while other is spasming

[hushed pagoda]

the delay i mean

[azure narwhal]

i mean, if they are already tweaking it doesnt make a difference if you walk or run because the next state would be awake anyways (except if running maybe triggeres from a further distance, which i dont know)

[low radish]

Running makes more noise

[azure narwhal]

it was dauda i swear

[low radish]

Also remember crouching and un-crouching also makes noise

So watch out for that

[hushed pagoda]

yes but they're gone wake up anyway since the situation we had was chaining consecutive stealth kills

[azure narwhal]

i didnt know this for soo long and woke up enemies really often because of this xD

[low radish]

Spitters can wake them up too

[hushed pagoda]

oh yeah that happened to us as well earlier lol

[low radish]

A little fun fact

[hushed pagoda]

tried to stealth kill a giant I think and the newbie w us crouched

fortunately i was insane enough to practice solo knifing giants

[cobalt swallow]

Hahahahah

[azure narwhal]

yeah i mean if you walk towards an enemy you can kill him regardless of wether you walk or run.
if theres multiple enemies close to eachother and you walk you will only wake them up after killing one of them,,
but if you run they will all wake up immediately, making it more risky.
you have to weigh the risk yourself, but i guess one could argue that if you arent 100% sure walking would always be the safer option

[low radish]

It's useful to learn that

Don't wake up all of the giants in R5C3 like I did

[hushed pagoda]

oooooh that's...fair actually

[low radish]

I still have no idea how my duo survived that mentally

[hushed pagoda]

eh well it seems to have never costed us a run so far

[hushed pagoda]

funny that, that's actually what we're planning to go at tomorrow

[low radish]

Don't wake up everything like I did

[azure narwhal]

yeah, if you dont panic and are able to deal with the enemies its not really THAT big of a deal.
tho if you run and wake up a pack of like 5 sleepers and you cant manage to kill them all then one will scream and wake up the whole room

[hushed pagoda]

so what you're saying is if I can clean up my own mistakes it should be fine yes? xd

mfw most of my "running at enemies" is actually cleaning up everyone else's mistakes 🥴

[azure narwhal]

i guess so, mistakes always happen tho

[azure narwhal]

me when @cobalt swallow wakes up everything

[hushed pagoda]

xd

[cobalt swallow]

Nah I aint waking them up if my beloved bishop is near me so he can shoot the enemy that heared me killing his friend

[azure narwhal]

i dont know if im having a stroke reading that or if you had a stroke writing that

[cobalt swallow]

Bots have so many downsides tho they are great

[azure narwhal]

dauda ONLY has downsides

[cobalt swallow]

Hahahhahah

[azure narwhal]

all my homies hate dauda

[cobalt swallow]

Fr

[hushed pagoda]

frame 1 bio tagging, frame 1 healing, revive

then they get stuck in a wall as you're about to start an s scan or whatever that purple one is

[azure narwhal]

they dont care, they walk into 20 enemies to revive you,, such gigachads

[cobalt swallow]

Hahahahha

[azure narwhal]

this shouldnt be as relateable as it is

[hushed pagoda]

yeah that happened tous a while back

that same friend of mine almost threw a fit at our third guy for "not being in the scan"

turns out the bot glitched, clipped thru the floor and fell out of bounds

fun

[burnt inlet]

Mfw bots trigger w(b)allsacks and the scout screams

[low radish]

I was ready for the sticker

[low radish]

There it is

10 people used it on me

[burnt inlet]

Also sending stickers doesn’t make the ”is typing” thing

[burnt inlet]

Wonder why

[azure narwhal]

are you a machine gun enjoyer?

[burnt inlet]

Yea lol

And she coping hard

[low radish]

I bring MG everywhere

Beaten over half of the game duo with it

And I won't stop

[azure narwhal]

i cant really argue about it because i never play weapons with a high fire rate

[burnt inlet]

I would find the readable copy pasta but I cba so

[azure narwhal]

for the sticker? already read it

[burnt inlet]

oh

then you know all the arguments for it

kinda

its chatgptd i think

[azure narwhal]

kinda

slenderman stuck with me

def not a slenderman counter

[burnt inlet]

"flashlight flicking"

[ocean spindle]

:D

[crystal raven]

How tall are the prisoners because I want to make a project and I need their proportions

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-lore

[slender zenith]

🤨

[ocean spindle]

me choosing how to kill the scout:

[paper bolt]

can someone explain this terminal mechanic? someone pings an item and leaves the terminal - the terminal shuts off and the ping doesn't continue until you step closer again - this doesn't seem to happen if you move away backwards while looking at the terminal - is there a different way to always guarantee the ping completing?

[frail heart]

If you want to walk away with commands still going through then hold “q” while you walk away from the terminal to bring up the comms menu and it’ll leave the terminal in an active state

[paper bolt]

that works perfectly thank you very much <3

[frail heart]

everyone

[topaz anvil]

Silly name called terminal storage

[azure narwhal]

that is such a game changer

i was already at the stage of accepting that theres no way to make it work when you walk away

[frail heart]

2

[digital mural]

what the fuck

[ocean spindle]

whhy is that a thing

or i guess the question is how

[azure narwhal]

does the holding q thing work with looping the ping? i have never used a loop but i heard about it and somebody said you have to be at the terminal, but maybe you dont have to with this technique?

[frail heart]

i would assume so

why is everyone so surprised

this was like a known thing

[paper bolt]

i tried that earlier but it seems to stop looping once you get out of terminal

unless i was doing something wrong

[safe cradle]

To my knowledge -t doesn't keep pinging

Also if someone goes by the terminal it interrupts the command (not sure, I rarely do that in important stuff)

[civic wave]

yeah, -t does not work when you're off the terminal

you must be directly stuck in the terminal interface for it

[azure narwhal]

maybe for a pro gamer gravy gulper nr. 1 chicken jockey chicken jockey chicken jockey chicken jockey chicken jockey water bucket release this. . . . .. is a crafting table chicken jockey ender pearl😎 😏 COMIN IN HOT!
but not for a casual chicken jockey like me

[safe cradle]

Sleepo lost -3 SAN points!

I didnt need them anyway

[grizzled patrol]

@grand elm pls translate it

[inner inlet]

I got you fam."maybe if you are good at the game and not bad like me you can do that" some of the rest is just gramatical stuff that doesn't mater

[vivid remnant]

is it viable to just go loud payday 2 style or will i get swarmed?

[tardy ingot]

mostly viable yes
recommended? not necessarily. Going fully loud can make your res dwindle quick if you dont know what to do specifically and when

but a mix of stealth (which can get quite fast) and shooting/using your tools to clear stuff is a very viable and honestly semi recommended style

[vivid remnant]

ok, thanks

[soft crater]

fell asleep.

accidentally shared that stuff as I was going through youtube before bed

[ocean spindle]

hey guys is the r8d1 achiv a team one

or is it like the "E tier no boosters" one where its individual

[soft crater]

team

[ocean spindle]

I KNEW IT

maybve

[soft crater]

no one can use med/disinfection period

[grizzled patrol]

I Love that shover next to the Turbine waiting For you to fatfinger into it

[vivid remnant]

so, in the rundown menu, it says R1A1 and then R1B1, are those the difficulties i see when i am matchmaking?

[civic wave]

sort of

the levels are roughly tiered by difficulty, going from A (easier) to E (challenging)

though it's advised not to use in game matchmaking, as it does not offer much in the way of choosing which level to play, and you can't do much to curate your experience

plus there's a fair proportion of cheaters that use the in game matchmaker

[fathom ice]

tl dr

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[vivid remnant]

oh, alright

[grizzled patrol]

Yes, its going to be the Same Mission but Harder. Bigger Map, more enemies Harder Challenge

[vivid remnant]

thanks

[burnt inlet]

fitting username

[ocean spindle]

usually strafing side to side or runnin in circles sort of works

but at that point u might as well jump off the scan and make ur team help u or try to loop them around a bit

like to try to at least kill some of them

[burnt inlet]

Or shoot

Min maxing ammo isn’t needed for most levels tbh

[prime musk]

dodge, shoot them when you don't actively have to dodge (eg inbetween)

[rotund sand]

lets say i inappropriately touched and had contact with big shooters or scout
would our children be sleeper human hybrid? normal human? or scout from scout and shooter from b shooter?

serious question for science

[frail heart]

ask tgb he has experience with human-sleeper compatibility

[rotund sand]

whos tgb

theres 3 tgbs which 1

[frail heart]

you should know

[rotund sand]

@little pilot @velvet temple @safe cradle

[prime musk]

that's crazy

[rotund sand]

i know its a crazy theory and question but i need anwsers
i got presentation in 30m

so i need anwser asap

2nd question: can sleepers breed with one another? how would they reproduce

[barren gull]

With your mom obv

[rotund sand]

scouts n shooters are all females tho

please learn to read

[barren gull]

nah I'm good, pub

[frail heart]

why tf you ping sleepo

[rotund sand]

u said theres 3 tgb
when i put @tgb these 3 shows up

[frail heart]

i think its likely that tgb means tgb

[rotund sand]

who knows or how would i know

[digital mural]

Sleepo is now tbg

Wild

[tiny wyvern]

for actual lore questions ask pablo or frostty

[azure narwhal]

is it normal that sometimes the enemies bug out for me and they slide around with no walking animation

[tiny wyvern]

It's desync

Don't worry it'll happen at the worst moments of your time playing GTFO

And also the best moments but hey

[tiny wyvern]

The hell is 'grass allergy'?

[frail heart]

bro doesnt use the discord

[ocean spindle]

the virus and parasite on their relation- what they do is only change up the host physically for its own needs, leaving the human inside alive (at least by devs word i believe) so in a hypothetical case, if the virus hasnt destroyed the reproductive organs (which it mightve as it seems they lack some hipbones for movement) it would probably be normal human but already infected, thus it would become a sleeper at a certain point, we dont know much much it takes to get there tho

[ocean spindle]

sleepers most probably reproduce as both insects and animals, first via a mother that creates new little babies that seem human but are not much quite there, and the cocoons which u can find on some levels

[topaz anvil]

Crazy discussion

[civic wave]

Allergic rhinitis (hayfever)

[ocean lance]

sleepers reproducing is crazy

[ocean spindle]

i mean

not like we dont know

[azure narwhal]

you have a presentation about human and complex beings compatibility ?

[near spear]

Hello everyone! Just bought a game few days ago and me and my friend are confused in wich sequence we need to conplete "rundowns". This game seems very complicated in lore and gameplay part and someone is writing that you need to start from R6 and others R4-R5. Can someone help please what is the best sequence in wich we will have the best narrative experience?

[tiny wyvern]

Just start from R1 if you don't want to think about it too much

The narrative portion of the game doesn't really start until R6, so if you're only here for the lore you can start there
You'll miss a lot of info on enemies and how to deal with them I suppose, but it's a valid option

ah the others are here

[civic wave]

you may do the levels/rundowns in any order you'd like
direct story elements are included in levels from r6 through to r8
rundown 6 and rundown 7 are different strands of story, and r8 combines them - it's hard to say more than that without spoiling, but you should perhaps save R8 until last
Rundown 1 is where people normally start and they go sequentially, but the levels are quite boring and bare so you may instead elect to play through rundown 6, which is still accommodating for newer players and has more to offer

[ocean spindle]

my personal take is just go from r1, complete it and if u get stuck on the next rundowns (as theye aree harder) jump to the next one, and just leeave r8 to the very end as it is the ending of the game
r1 - r7 all havee logs that if ur really interested serve to the story

and help u undertand things a lot better

[tiny wyvern]

@near spear Do you need more info, or is this enough?

[ocean spindle]

i can tell u each and every mission that should be completed in sequential order /j

[heady moat]

just make sure you have completed Training first :^)

(and do not press the 'matchmaking' button, it's bad, it is known)

[near spear]

We figured out that "orange" ones are the narrative ones. So if story starts in R6 is it necessery to complete previous befor R6 or after?

[near spear]

That would be very cool!

[frail heart]

You can play in any order you want

[ocean spindle]

u can jump straight into r6

take into account orange doesnt straight up mean "dialogue" sometimes is more environmental

[tiny wyvern]

Do R6 and onward if you're really only here for story
Go from R1 if you want the full experience

[ocean spindle]

the first levels of r6 are very much like so

[frail heart]

If you care about story the important ones to play in order are r7 then r8

[tardy ingot]

Who the hell said R4-R5???

[tiny wyvern]

isn't r4 to r5 like the period of time where the story literally went nowhere

[upper ginkgo]

r4 gave us schaeffer

[frail heart]

and da snatcher

(in writing)

[tardy ingot]

if you only care about the story then dont play gtfo ngl

this game has some story that can be cool to go through

[tiny wyvern]

just watch a lore vid

[tardy ingot]

^

but its rly not worth to skip so much of the good content this game offers

[tiny wyvern]

(Cut to frostty angry at lore vids getting things wrong)

#gtfo-lore

moment

[frail heart]

typical

[tardy ingot]

And I rly dont agree with goat saying early rundowns will be bland and boring

They are more barebones and tend to be boring for experienced players. But beginners will typically get overwhelmed already

[frail heart]

I personally think that R6 is the perfect rundown to start with

[tiny wyvern]

also has the most fun a1 mission in my opinion

[upper ginkgo]

whats the r6 wall

[ocean spindle]

c1

probs

[native sun]

For R1-R5 the game's story is pretty much solely environmental storytelling and then little lore drops in the form of logs found on terminals. You can play pretty much all of these missions in any order without disrupting your experience of the story.
In R6 the missions start to tie a lot more into the story. In R7 you first get some narration. And then in R8 the story elements ramp up a lot. You'll typically want to play missions within these rundowns in order, and have completed R6 and R7 before tackling R8.

Gameplay wise: R1-R5 are rereleases of content that was first made during early access. These missions are not "fully feature complete", there is reduced objective and enemy variety, oftentimes questionable level design, and no checkpoints. R6 is a rerelease of the original 1.0 release and the level design is notably better and checkpoints are present, then R7-R8 are both after the 1.0 release and are great.

If you want to 'start from the unfinished beginnings' you can start with R1 and play in order. Levels will introduce new enemies and mechanics very slowly. You won't have checkpoints. But you will get to see each new thing get it's own special introduction which can be pretty cool.

If you want to jump into the meat of the game and experience what it has to offer a bit sooner you can start with R6/R7, and consider playing R1-R5 if you like the game and want to see the 'prequel' content. You'll experience new enemies and mechanics much more quickly which can help keep you engaged if you're not sure about the game.

Either way I'd recommend leaving R8 until you've played a decent amount of other stuff beforehand. It's mechanics and story ramp very quickly and it's good to have a bit more background before you start it.

[ocean spindle]

omg

[tiny wyvern]

ooo

[near spear]

I really like GTFO. Very cool game and I very like it with my friend. We just got confused with the rundowns sequence.

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah tru has basically everything down

[tardy ingot]

Its definetly good if you want a straight up good experience

R1 starts out more chill tho (same with R2 until R2E1)

[frail heart]

nah

[frail heart]

probably c2

[ocean spindle]

id say the 5 feeler room is where people struggle

i didnt watched too much gtfo when r6 dropped but the walls i saw- where peoeple stopped playing- where A1, B2 and C1

[upper ginkgo]

in og, I remember ppl struggling in c1, c2

[frail heart]

I think R6 is on the chiller side, as well as being quite well designed and better to play

[tardy ingot]

Depends

Pure beginners? R6C1 usually

[near spear]

Oh wow thank you very much!

[tardy ingot]

It is easily the best rundown for a good experience, level design and introducing (most) enemies.

Its 1.0 release for a reason

[tiny wyvern]

r6 is also the fall damage rundown if you're new

[upper ginkgo]

wat

[ocean spindle]

theres a lot of rooms to fall

[tardy ingot]

C1 was a massive hurdle for many yea

Everything forced them to play decent throughout the level (1st alarm, error, 2nd alarm, giant zone, scout zone, 2nd tp and tscan)

[tiny wyvern]

Like if you're fresh you'll get very aquianted with fall damage

[crisp oak]

if i log on nnow will anyone help with R4B...

[tiny wyvern]

b wut

[crisp oak]

erm 2 i think

lemme go on the game and look

[heady moat]

you may as well go make an lfg post anyway in that case

[crisp oak]

actually R4A3

[azure narwhal]

what would be the best tool for solo? is it extremely level dependent or is there a clear winner?

[ocean spindle]

dependant, sometimes a sentry wins over other one, sometimes mines
really the constant is just not bio really

that i know of at least

i dont think theres a solo level where bio is better idk

[azure narwhal]

mhmmhm

[violet laurel]

i saw a strat of killing tanks by setting up 7 or 8 mines on an alarm door theyre behind in a speedrun video once, tried it myself in runs twice and am 50/50 on it working.
what does the tank dying depend on, did i do something wrong on the setup, or is there a way to manip it, or is it just rng?

[inner inlet]

Try shooting it too, hope this helps😃

[violet laurel]

i mean shooting works but its kinda slow in comparison

since the door strat is suppossd to be an instakill

[inner inlet]

Shoot after you hit them with the mines, they might have like 1 hp left😃

[violet laurel]

oh, well not on the failed attempt, i think the mines just didn't hit at all

[tardy ingot]

ngl, killing tank with shooting (scatterguns) is faster than mines (since you typically run into where the tank comes from)

the mines thing isnt realible unless you are entirely solo (and have the right setup)

[violet laurel]

yeah that's scatterguns plural, i kinda have to resort to mines since i run bots n tanks are kinda ass w those

im also just bad at the game and its easy when it works

[burnt inlet]

If it ain’t easy then I don’t want it 🗣️🔥🗣️🔥

[hoary mason]

just use door™️

[inner inlet]

Just don't make up the tank tbh🎣

[violet laurel]

whats that about ?

[hoary mason]

https://youtu.be/wBSoqopncQQ?t=35 check about 30 seconds from timestamp

[violet laurel]

oh thats funny

[civic wave]

for the mine kill, you need each mine to hit tank tumour

sometimes the tank still takes a ton of damage but lives on like 5hp

[violet laurel]

i wonder if the mine got triggered by sumn else entirely then, cause that tank did not have 5hp

that's probably what it was

[hoary mason]

Was tank in running animation?

You were far away from it?

[violet laurel]

not sure, does it have to be?

[ocean lance]

@errant dome wanna run trio?

idk why i pinge dhere

thought it was speedrun channel

[civic wave]

could be, or it could be that the tank tanked it/it hit mostly armour, which deals about 3-10 damage to the tank (functionally nothing)

[violet laurel]

thats what i figured, wondering if there's a way to make that not happen, or just "cope"

[hoary mason]

Usually you just cope yes.

[violet laurel]

okay cool fair nuff thank u

[azure stone]

Question for lore logs do you need to access every terminal searching for them or if you find one can you read all the logs from a single terminal in that level

[prime musk]

lore logs (and in general, all logs) are only found on specific terminals in a level

[azure stone]

So I have to hit every terminal looking for them not just one

[ocean spindle]

u can check if a log is in a terminal quickly wheen u enter it

[prime musk]

yeah, if you intend to search for them yourself

[ocean spindle]

cuz it tells u

if it says it has one, its nothing cuz all terminals have an univeral log

[prime musk]

it tells you how many logs are in the terminal, and every terminal contains 1 "whatever" log

[ocean spindle]

if it says it has 2 or more, it has cool logs

[azure stone]

If one person reads the logs do all 4 get it?

[prime musk]

yeah

[azure stone]

Even if they dont interact with the terminal?

[prime musk]

i believe so

[azure stone]

How do I check how many logs I have

[prime musk]

the steam achievement "D-Lock Block Decipherer"

[minor fractal]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/ if you want to just know where logs are

[azure stone]

Oh god, does it only tell you the number you have not which ones?

[prime musk]

tracking which ones, you have to use some spreadsheet or community developed tracker

[azure stone]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuu

[prime musk]

it just says the number, but community has trackers developed though i can't remember any links

[minor fractal]

.

[azure stone]

thx

THERES A 188 OF THESE LITTLE SHITS

[ocean spindle]

:3

TIME TO START CHIPPING AWAY LOGS

[azure stone]

185 left lmao

[ocean spindle]

lets gooo

gAMING

[azure stone]

Do you also have to beat the mission for it to count?

[ocean spindle]

nah

[azure stone]

Oh thank god

[ocean spindle]

as soon as the command goes in u can die

[digital mural]

Almost there

🙏

[polar path]

So lfg-beginners is THE chat for getting grouped up right? What I mean by that is that just because someone posts an invite in that chat does not mean they are open to beginners joining, right? I mean I see some invites for levels that kind of look... beginner-averse lets say. 🙂

[sudden nexus]

depends on what your looking for

probs just ask people if they are ok with beginners

[civic wave]

if they made the conscious decision to post it in lfg-beginners they lose their right to complain about beginners joining

some people simply post their lfg to every channel

[ocean lance]

if someone posts on lfg beginner they can't complain yeah

[rotund sand]

so who or what creates these cocoons?

[rotund sand]

so ur saying if their organs arent obliterated its still compatable?

also how can a human turn into a literal invisible being or chargers?

immortal for that matter

and shooters wtf they shooting at and how would it be painful in rl

[ocean spindle]

i dont doubt is a byproduct of the biomass that we see the virus create sometimes, likee the ceiling of r1c2
the alternative is sleepers that "hibernate" in which case is not reproduction is just hibernation

[ocean spindle]

iif, yes probs

[rotund sand]

and why only females turn into a scout/shooters/big shooters and not male?
if all females turn into these 3 things what about charger scouts?

[ocean spindle]

we dont know shadows, theres theeories about how their physical form couold be attached to another dimension or wave as MWP fucky does, and the BioCom is capablee of making us see it (or maybe it is just visible straight up as theres a log that talks about a forrm of shadow eveen though it could not be)
chargers, theres a log that says "- purpose of keratinous growths unclear. does it charge under threat?" which is yes, it charges under threat

so we know what that is

[ocean spindle]

the immortal is just a byproduct of the tank, so prrobs thats ur answer

[rotund sand]

lastly, why are they sensitive to lights or footsteps or any sound? wouldnt they get triggered if scout walks by?

[rotund sand]

u lost me at charger explanation

[rotund sand]

whats a byproduct so ur saying he was created?

[ocean spindle]

i think there some video explaining but i know it had a lot of mistakes
my headcanon- cuz hell if i or woods knows- is probably- the same log from r3 says about how the shooter are (or could be) more intelligent
so maybe that difference made them grow a different something that made eem into shooters instead of strikers, or other differences it could be many

[ocean spindle]

that was like the last thing i said :[

[ocean spindle]

we need to remember that sleepers havee beeen infestating the complex at least 1' years before we arrive
they know their kind, when the complex does things, when not a sleeeper is walking, and whos and whos not there on their room

[ocean spindle]

no, tanks have a natural armor already but weakneess at the back via tumors, same for the mother
maybe the virus creeated these as a natural formatioin do defend itself from damage- we know of animals who have extremely tough skins, this is not neew
for the immortal, its the same aas a tank but without the tumors, probs some rare kind that was made for a speecific defeending purrpose on the "hive"

we dont know as technically wee know theres only ONE in the whole complex

[rotund sand]

so its not individual infestation but the virus turned it like a hivemind like bee ant thing?

isnt there 2

pretty sure i saw 2 in diff rundowns

[ocean spindle]

we assume, and we probably assume right considerring the scouts role, the mother role, the tank role... they serve functions

[ocean spindle]

thee other is not canon

is on r8a2 secondary and it is a what if scenario

[rotund sand]

that makes no sense

wym what if

[ocean spindle]

yes like the marvel series

:D

[rotund sand]

we get teleported to god knows where and why snd what that place is

[azure stone]

How hard is R2E1? Like if you were to rate it on a 1 to 10 scale?

[ocean spindle]

we get teeleported to a uhh creature test by doctor hammerstein, and we... die at the end which cannot happen

[rotund sand]

8-9

[ocean spindle]

9.8

its on the top 7 hardest missions of the game

out of 83

so yes

well maybe 9.8 is too much

9.5?

[rotund sand]

its a shotgun map

1 must bring hel auto for stagger

[ocean spindle]

its hard to rate it when theres so much difficulty disparrity

but even with hel auto is hard

the endings a fuck

between r6a1 / th efunny map
its maybe a 9 then, 8.5 or so

but thats extreemly up for this game

[rotund sand]

not to mention there are infec fogs

[azure stone]

Just wanted to ask before I got there

[ocean spindle]

and yucks !

[ocean spindle]

i would just skip it

in general for r2 if ur on d1 d2 e1 u just jump to rundown 3

[azure stone]

Nah Ima run it with my team for like a week

[prime musk]

ngl i fucking hate the baseline recommendation being "just skip to r3" like
you don't skill prog if you don't push yourself

[ocean spindle]

u dont need to push urself with one of the hardest missions of the game u can push urself on r3c1

[prime musk]

sure bashing head at something for forever isn't good but it's worth at least a week of attempts with some advice from community

[prime musk]

if you're clearing r2c2 r2d1 and d2 are fair challenges that can be overcome

[ocean spindle]

i mean one can try e1 for a week- tbh we tell most people to skip and like 50% say "nah we good"
so like if they wanna do it, they are- they will

also c2 yes

but d1 d2 literally havee tutorials in r3

[azure stone]

This game's take on fair is a bit different than my definition of it

[ocean spindle]

so u can come back to them and know wats happening

[ocean spindle]

its a skill ceiling

i mean

not ceiling

a skill limit?

[azure stone]

skill floor?

[ocean spindle]

yes probs

its just missions that throw u over the wall and flip u arround, need to get used to what theey are

and once u do it becomes easier but u gotta get used to it

[prime musk]

after ||plugging 1st cell that comes for free in r2d1|| it becomes pretty obvious what to do
similarly with ||2nd code in r2d2||

[ocean spindle]

u would be surprised at what people can overlook ive seeen way too many teams on d1 not see that, and even witbout that- i was referring more to the end

cuz ive seen people complain about it too

and then d2 well yeah i guess thats true

but its still a super high jump on difficulty

[azure stone]

Im sure itll be fine, I am not even there yet but just wanted to ask in advance

[ocean spindle]

u can do it the way u decide, now that we uh mentioned it kmsdm

now its up to u

[rotund sand]

is ur team full?

[ocean spindle]

damn

[azure stone]

yeah the four of us play together usually

[rotund sand]

where do i find 1 veteran players that will teach carry and guide 3 others including me
was told not to find ppl in this server cuz 90% ppl are speedrunners or ruins ur experience

[ocean spindle]

carry zzzz

if u do an LFG post u can find people

u can find the instructions on #how-to-matchmake

...

also where did u saw that

who told u that

its my job to specifically tell people to ask to not be carried
and now theey wont even joined so theyll just geet fucking carried in matchmaking

whatthefuck !

[rotund sand]

literally people here in this server

discussing it and on reddit and on steam page

also back to lore, hacket volunteered to legion cuz of childhood
bishop threatened #1 vip in the whole world and jumped to paradox or something using matter wave proj? maybr wrong
woods and dauda makes no sense except woods didnt die after so many situations he should have been dead can u explain that

[ocean spindle]

bishop blackmailed his boss, got erased out of all record and imprisoned in the HSU, and then with his memory erased he was used for MWP tests yes

woodss uh has the power of god an anime on his side

dauda was lucky

[ocean spindle]

also as long as u ask there shouldnt be an issue and theres always a lot of new people coming

[rotund sand]

so hes a superhuman?

[ocean spindle]

no he just has the mandate of heaven

god knew what he wanted orr at least that seems to be the reason?

if so god is canon in gtfo

which is funny

[rotund sand]

can u explain what dauda did tho
was he the 1 who experimented on virus or sth

[ocean spindle]

yes, dauda used to work under fake names for bad companies and theen deyfus dragged them to work for them on impunity
he experimented with hjumans, did shady shit, and then when the rapture happened the OG went into an HSU for protection

and the ALT encountered the otheer 3 and got imprisoned in an HSU by them

[rotund sand]

what?

[digital mural]

Guys

[rotund sand]

explain pls

[digital mural]

#gtfo-lore

Pinned messages

Lore for dummies doc

[ocean spindle]

but i like saying things

[digital mural]

The doc says it better than you

No offense

[rotund sand]

stop interrupting this is important and very serious

[ocean spindle]

i mean its true but i still take offense ksmdkms

[digital mural]

There's a doc that tells everything you need to know about the GTFO world

It can easily solve the questions you are asking

Scaler is the only one with good vids
And they still fall short in a lot of things

[ocean spindle]

isnt his last lore video like good apart from maybe one two detaiks

thats what i remember frostty sayin

[digital mural]

Ye

But it misses some stuff here and there

[rotund sand]

vids are all fake or just assumptions, opinions of theirs without proof, logic and facts as ppl said so i dont watch vids

[digital mural]

Uh

Search up Professor Scaler

And look up his lore video

[rotund sand]

oh his was good but no explanation bout my questions u know

[ocean spindle]

the dauda thing is a log

[rotund sand]

like compatibility, creation, difference etc

wait so if its a hivemind, whos the king/queen/boss

kraken?

[ocean spindle]

[[ALT://Rundown 5.0 Logs#7UJ-39J-JF2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/ALT://Rundown_5.0_Logs#7UJ-39J-JF2

[ocean spindle]

yay it worked

[digital mural]

We don't know

[ocean spindle]

no thats theeee flyers one, or not king just creature from destination

[digital mural]

Theory says the Kraken acts as a hivemind for the fliers

Just the fliers

[ocean spindle]

he spawns them so

maybe his mom we dont kno

:3

[rotund sand]

i got a question that ends all questions

[ocean spindle]

the game does in fact take place in mexico
ur welcome

[rotund sand]

does sleepers attack/kill us or attacks us to infect or to attack us to eat like zombies?

[digital mural]

They attack to kill

Just to kill

[ocean spindle]

uh probs just as defenisve

they dont eat period, they dont need to infect since the virus is airbone and eeverythingborne

theey just trying to live

[digital mural]

Yep

[ocean spindle]

u say i explain bad but i just do it dramatically B]

with love and care

kiss for goodnight

[digital mural]

[digital mural]

For clarification: I just said the doc explains better, I never said you explained bad

[ocean spindle]

a

[digital mural]

c

[rotund sand]

whos doc

wait if they dont eat wouldnt they... die?

rot corpse? fall off?

[ocean spindle]

doc is document :D

[ocean spindle]

the virus with the parasite make the host live until affected by uh blunt force trauma basically

they can live without head, legs, etc, cuz the relation makes them live as long as possible

[rotund sand]

interesting

ty for info

eait wheres the website or document that explains everything in lore and anwsers to all questions as the rude person who intertupted us

[ocean spindle]

#gtfo-lore has a pinged doc

with the basics

but the full full would be like 80 pages

no one wants to rread 80 pages

[rotund sand]

i will

ill be the first person to land on a moon

i mean finish it

wait u still didnt anwsered my question from yesterday

[digital mural]

I said it

Twice

[ocean spindle]

but i dids

[rotund sand]

can they feel pleasure? hunger, thirst, fear, anger

[digital mural]

Well, sleepers get angry that's for sure

Hunger and thirst i don't think they do

They don't need to eat or drink anything to survive

[rotund sand]

what about lust, pleasure

[fallen forum]

that is such a odd question.

[rotund sand]

ur saying if i shove a sleepers pp in scout/shooter/chickens vegetable that sleeper not gonna feel pleasure?
or in reverse?

[digital mural]

Further experimentation is required

[rotund sand]

PLEASE i must know

[fallen forum]

does a sleeper even have a penis?

[rotund sand]

like yesterday said unless the virus mutated to completely shrink or destroy it should still have it

[frail heart]

what the fuck am i reading

[digital mural]

Omg is the Gulper

[rotund sand]

WHERES THE ANWSEE

[soft crater]

[halcyon mango]

for r2d2 5th or 6th code, where it's the two rooms with 5 scouts
usually I hold at the cls4 door for the time save, but seems like there's an error alarm after where 4 strikers get spawned every so often until there's like 5min left.
so if you open scout zone right after alarm, there's a solid chance they spawn in the triple/quadruple scout room and trigger something.
is there some sort of strategy to avoid this, or do you just wait until they stop spawning?

[mortal tide]

there is no error alarm however reactor waves have an exact amount of enemies they always need to spawn- so if you are holding fairly far that may result in several enemies spawning fairly late into the wave, so holding more aggressively and killing enemies faster should help you avoid those issues

[halcyon mango]

hm, that's annoying

[digital mural]

The power of spawn manipulation can make a hugeeeeee difference

[halcyon mango]

so just hold bridge or south hallway and kill everything
then go do cls 4.
stinky

[grizzled patrol]

Cls?

Oh you mean the Alarm door

I mean yeah, First Wave is Always spawning at the entrance point

So it Takes a while for them to get to you

[marsh quiver]

If you have a bot on bio-scan, would running 3 sniper sentry's always be better than 3 burst sentry's? speaking in context of R2D2

[civic wave]

technically it's more efficient if you're only looking at how many enemies it kills (or at big enemies), but burst sentry still has several benefits over it relating to use on shorter sightlines, staggering enemies, and a bit less wasted damage if player + sentry shoot the same enemy, if you care about that

really I'd recommend a mix, 2 of one sentry, and 1 of the other

[marsh quiver]

thank you goat

[civic wave]

gl with the runs, i'll be lurking

[marsh quiver]

we're starting to get deep runs, i think we'll beat it soon

[hoary horizon]

I had a weird idea with trip mines I’m wondering if it would work in alarm sections

[tardy ingot]

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[hoary horizon]

Placing them in long hallways at an elevation and setting them off with a gun shot when enough enemies build up

Would that work?

[civic wave]

it does work but it'll not be very efficient

[tardy ingot]

eeh
It can

But at that point if they are in such a line (where you can also see the mine itself):

• you could have a hel weapon to kill instead
• the range of the mine becomes an issue

[civic wave]

because you're at the mercy of the enemy AI

[tardy ingot]

you can rarely get some cool open mine kills but like
Its not gonna be crazy worth it

[civic wave]

and yeah, a hel weapon can do something similar without the tool expenditure or setup

[hoary horizon]

Ah alright

[grizzled patrol]

And then a Giant waltzes in and hogs the entire Mine for himself

[hoary horizon]

I’m still not sure of the effectiveness of placing mines at giant elevation just to target them yet so I don’t know how effective it is

I’ve only started lmao

Games been really fun

[tardy ingot]

mines are pretty meh vs giants

you typically would need to use 3 mines to kill 1 (or many of stacked)
(They die to 2 sniper sentry shots lol)

[grizzled patrol]

1-2 Giants is meh. The more Giants you Stack the better it gets

But such rooms are very rare

[hoary horizon]

My group only gets to play like once a week so we’re still on R1 where I’m bringing scattergun for backup when giants or scout executions go wrong

[grizzled patrol]

Scattergun is the worst gun in the Game. Take Sniper rifle instead

[hoary horizon]

I like the sound of it

[civic wave]

please stop confusing the newer players, what will they think when they see every speedrun taking 1-3 scatterguns

[tardy ingot]

Malefic just likes trolling beginners…

[hoary horizon]

Any confusion I take in will not effect anything because Ive confused myself

[hoary horizon]

I though scattergun was a really specialized role/gun unless it’s just really good for speed running through expeditions

[tardy ingot]

Its mega broken because it nukes anything big but is also actually efficient into small enemies (if you kill 2 per shot you are more efficient than most weapons will be and that isnt hard to get)

[tiny wyvern]

Scatter's a nice piece of equipment, large spread means decent crowd control and high power against most bigs

[safe cradle]

It has the specialized role of deleting big things

[tiny wyvern]

Even in a beginners hands, it does a well enough job

though wasting it on smalls is a bit of an issue when you don't know ammo balance

[hard nexus]

thats the biggest issue imo

[tardy ingot]

Honestly beginners run into the opposite rather

Where they are 20/90

[safe cradle]

Nah you get like 3-4 shells per ammo refill pack IIRC (number men will correct me)

[hard nexus]

new people do anything other than balance ammo and there we have 0% whatever 98% scatter gun

[hoary horizon]

Alright, yea I’ve been kinda using it as a big killer so far, I like sticking with a pistol or rifle as my main

[tardy ingot]

because „it only has like 10 shots“

[tiny wyvern]

some of them
these days it's a 50/50 coinflip

[tardy ingot]

Ngl ive not seen beginners on 100/0 as much as 0/100

[hard nexus]

but recommending sniper is same bs

they wont use it

[grizzled patrol]

5.5215

[tardy ingot]

They use it to:

• kill scouts (as if its the only thing that can)
• kill 1 sleeping giant then mag dump the other
• shoot moving giants (usually into body)

[hard nexus]

well thats the thing

[grizzled patrol]

Ngl i have Not Seen many beginners running scattergun. Most of the time they Just Default to revo or MG

[hard nexus]

the new guy with sniper shot the scout and giants and thats why the second new guy has full unused sniper

[tardy ingot]

scattergun isnt a common beginner pick because they have no clue how it or the game works yet typically

[grizzled patrol]

Sniper on beginners is so funny when all of them Go for the head and then Wonder why Sniper doesnt kill them

[hard nexus]

in some countries its a common first try pick because its called ружье

[hoary horizon]

My group tries to melee scouts 99% of the time I just bring scattergun for when we aren’t paying attention to scout location and it just shows up

[grizzled patrol]

Bio is Not real.

[digital mural]

Biotracker?

What is that?

[hoary horizon]

Biology in my shooter game? Nah

[hoary mason]

que a single room with 5 scouts in it

do it

[hard nexus]

last time i wanted to jump down to kill scout last second mid jump i heard a giant beneath me, whose heart started beating like crazy, so as i landed i had to fucking shoot the scout

[hoary mason]

shoot the scout

[grizzled patrol]

CoD Heartbeat Sensor? So many sweats ong

[digital mural]

That's so me, I used to put that thing on every loadout and gun

[hoary horizon]

If GTFO was playable in VR 10C would so add a heartbeat sensor that enemies can react to

[grizzled patrol]

It is

[digital mural]

GTFO is playable in VR

[hoary horizon]

What

[civic wave]

VR mod

[hoary horizon]

That’s horrifying

[grizzled patrol]

#gtfo-media message

[hoary horizon]

My goodness

[hard nexus]

ye

we did r7c3pe with a guy who played in vr

[hoary horizon]

There is vr crossplay?

Wild

[hard nexus]

i mean its a same platform

[hoary horizon]

Yea that makes sense

[marsh quiver]

Assuming that both weapons kill 2 smalls in one shot/burst Is the scatter gun more efficient than the burst cannon or is it so close it doesn't really matter?

[safe cradle]

I've no idea how much up to date it is, but https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_YpsPCclnYXiLGaSlCp4efNewkwHUG-RukGpJKdQEnI/edit?gid=1904836397#gid=1904836397

Then I guess damage per refill?

burst cannon get 18 per refill, scattergun get 5.whatever

[civic wave]

Burst cannon holds 66 ammo/22 bursts, so that'd be 44 kills, and scatter does not have 22 capacity, so from 100% capacity burst would be more efficient

[safe cradle]

assuming 2 smalls in one shot (or burst) it's like 6 bursts per refill so 12 kills, scatter is 5*2=10?

Whatever Goat said

[marsh quiver]

thank you both

[grizzled patrol]

It Has the Buffed BP Stats, it is Up to date

[prime musk]

it doesn't matter
burst cannon gets 12 scatter gets 11.04, the increased efficiency into other targets makes up for the minor difference