gtfo-related-questions

[umbral elbow]

Also - how is PDW as a weapon, out of curiosity?

[spark wolf]

its good but i never use it cuz the thermal scopes make me sick

[umbral elbow]

And also curious about heavy SMG!

Thermals are def cool on my dark laptop screen, ehe

[spark wolf]

but i think the thermals are not that good in fog? or it was changed maybe

[frigid obsidian]

You can, but something you find real fast with the knife is just how aggressive you can be when clearing rooms in stealth. Running it a bit has given me so much more confidence, even when I'm using other weapons.
I can't believe that for 40 hours my friends and I were so nervous we'd call out even when enemies are glowing.

If you haven't messed with it, you really should. It's insane what you can get away with.

[umbral elbow]

Oh I'm not sure - I would be curious!

[rocky torrent]

oh yeah ive gotten pretty confident with clearing rooms quick even with spear

[umbral elbow]

Yeah I wanna learn aggressive stealth!

[rocky torrent]

just 1/3 charge and kill them

[frigid obsidian]

Though something I do wonder about with stealth, does the "sound" of the kill come from the player's location, or the location of the enemy?

[rocky torrent]

as long as you dont aggro like scout youre chilling

[umbral elbow]

I'm def the most "methed up weasel" of the group and wish to do better at this role

I want to sprint into a room with fog to clear it with minimal regard for life or limb, ehehe

[rocky torrent]

just make sure you have someone on the bioscanner lol

[frigid obsidian]

The biggest tip I can give you is to not panic when you aggro an enemy. If you sprint, you will auto-trigger everything nearby. As long as you can hit them, or bait them into trying to hit you, they won't scream and wake the room.

[umbral elbow]

Yeah just walk and stab, yeah?

[frigid obsidian]

I've dropped groups of 4 with the spear solo without aggroing the room, just gotta be willing to use the push and to resist the urge to run.

[umbral elbow]

I've gotten decent at doubles and can occasionally do triples

[frigid obsidian]

Right mouse is a shove when you aren't charging, this'll stagger and stop a scream

[umbral elbow]

Ah shoves! Right

When should one shove?

[frigid obsidian]

For me, it's when they're aggro and not winding up an attack, you can do so right away before charging your next hit if you're doing a risky double.

I'm sure there's a greater method to the madness, I've only been doing aggro stealth for a few gameplay hours now and know I can be even more blatant with practice

[spark wolf]

you can jump and then sprint for a short period without instant wake up

if you need to cover slightly more distance quickly

[frigid obsidian]

Oh? Hey, that's great to know!

[rocky torrent]

is R1D1 considered a hard level or is it just my inexperience?

[umbral elbow]

But yes I wish to learn to murder for victory is secondary to body count

Also eek! No R1D1 spoilers we just started it, ehe!

[tardy ingot]

basically all full autos are pretty meh at best

[meager mortar]

in the scope of the game, no, the room that has the last alarm still takes a bit of care to clear. not very hard but easy to throw

[fathom ice]

not really

[minor fractal]

Pretty easy.

[fathom ice]

ray is always right

[rocky torrent]

[umbral elbow]

Don't weep

[rocky torrent]

its probably just me like

[umbral elbow]

Learn to love the agony :)

[rocky torrent]

wasting all my bullets

and the bots being fucking stupid

[meager mortar]

r1d1 is awful if you're getting all the logs though. not hard, just like, way longer than it should be

[spark wolf]

the main strength of full autos is supressing wave by swapping between enemies on their stagger rather than on kill

[umbral elbow]

Oh wait

Which levels have lore logs?

[meager mortar]

uh

[fathom ice]

all levels

[umbral elbow]

I mostly have just seen reactor logs

[fathom ice]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/

[meager mortar]

most of them have lore logs but it's common to have an external tool to track the achievement progress

[fathom ice]

i lied

[umbral elbow]

Ah ok

[fathom ice]

most of them do

like 85% prob

nvm

it's only r1a1 and r1c1 and r2b3 without logs

[rocky torrent]

what r peoples opinions on the shotgun sentry?

[fathom ice]

it's the worst

[umbral elbow]

Ehehe, got it o7

[rocky torrent]

fuck

i love it so much tho 😭

[tardy ingot]

check the last 2 seconds of this #guides-and-reviews message

[meager mortar]

most of them don't require any detour. some of them are in zones that have RNG elements on whether or not the zones are required. a few of them are notorious for basically throwing the run to try and grab

[umbral elbow]

Wew, that bad?

[rocky torrent]

its worse than the hel sentry?

[tardy ingot]

logs or shotgun sentry?

for 2nd, yes

[tardy ingot]

yes
by far

[rocky torrent]

i assume best is burst then

for stagger?

[tardy ingot]

what

[umbral elbow]

Logs

[tardy ingot]

overall yes
for killing tho

[rocky torrent]

like the best sentry is burst because it staggers enemies while being more conservative on ammo

[tardy ingot]

even hel auto sentry isnt used for stagger when its used

[rocky torrent]

i guess you have to micro the turret right?

i find even when theres a wave it just magdumps on the first half of the wave

[meager mortar]

its only a hnadful of logs. most of the time your probably is gonna be that a mission really presses you for time and the mcguffin you need isnt in the same zone as the log you need.

[umbral elbow]

Micro turret???

[fathom ice]

shotgun sentry moment

[rocky torrent]

and then im fucked when the rest of them get to the choke

[umbral elbow]

Ahhh ok

[rocky torrent]

nah i was thinking of the hel sentry

[fathom ice]

it does magdump

it's a placement game

[umbral elbow]

I have just learned of the r2c2 gimmick yesterday, wwww

[fathom ice]

just take burst

[rocky torrent]

i suppose but its not great value until the meat of the wave gets there

[tardy ingot]

nah just use it in the right spot and placement

[meager mortar]

there's also a handful of funny levels that prevent you from backtracking and make those logs inaccessable once you leave the area

[civic wave]

what levels prevent you from backtracking

[umbral elbow]

Ah goofy

[civic wave]

i can think of like

1 level

[minor fractal]

^

[civic wave]

and it's the very end of the level

[umbral elbow]

No spoilers if possible!

[minor fractal]

Which levels??

[fathom ice]

i'd never backtrack in r4e1

[tardy ingot]

hel auto sentry works with good chokes and with the back dmg it gets (unique to it due to a bug)

[fathom ice]

or e2

or r5e1

or 7e1

damn that's a lot!

[rocky torrent]

oh right i could do that

[fathom ice]

well it depends how much backtracking too prob

[meager mortar]

im reasonably certain r6d4

[rocky torrent]

thats neat

[minor fractal]

It's probably not worth it to

But you definitely can

[fathom ice]

ye

[civic wave]

ah yea i guess so with the gimmick of that level

[fathom ice]

r6d4 no?

[minor fractal]

||R6D4, R7C2, and R8D2|| are the only levels I can think of where you can't go back to a log.

[umbral elbow]

Also - is there a best way to use DTR?

[rocky torrent]

so on levels that are light on doors to cfoam/mine, i should stack 3 burst and 1 bio?

[umbral elbow]

To hit them right?

[fathom ice]

ohhh

yeah

[tardy ingot]

typically

[fathom ice]

u aim body

and hit head plus body

[umbral elbow]

I got a few proper double taps and they're REALLY satisfying

What about on crawlers?

[fathom ice]

just head

[meager mortar]

||r8a2 by nature of how that secondary works,|| but thats a little different

[minor fractal]

I always pull down at shorter ranges, and sometimes let recoil aim at long range

[umbral elbow]

Lower head crawlers, body standers

[fathom ice]

isn't there only one log

[umbral elbow]

Don't shooters need 2 heads?

[fathom ice]

nvm

there is 3

[minor fractal]

Head+Body

[civic wave]

For DTR, it's 1h1b to kill any small

[fathom ice]

na

[umbral elbow]

Oh wow - just a Mozambique Drill on each of the lil guys

[fathom ice]

speaking of mozambique

[ocean spindle]

dammit someething told me i was misremembering dtr

:[

[umbral elbow]

Does DMR one shot on all small heads?

[frail heart]

no

only shooters

not strikers

strikers are 1 shot head and 1 shot body

[ocean spindle]

any main dmg booster will make it so it can

[void kestrel]

if you can use the DMR well you can use the revo

[frail heart]

🐟

[meager mortar]

the minimum value for main damage on a booster allows it to one shot to head

[ocean spindle]

:[

fished

[meager mortar]

damn someone beat me to it

[ocean spindle]

tbh when u want a booster it appears once eveyr 70 years so
still searching for glowstick power

[meager mortar]

using boosters to hit one shot thresholds is a bit silly though. but someone did make the spreadsheet for it like two years ago, and power to them

[ocean spindle]

i mean its just like important with dmr cuz any will

and its a pretty big like line

or, word, idk i forgot how to say it

[meager mortar]

breakpoint

[ocean spindle]

the rest are like 15 20 50

that

thank u

[meager mortar]

i think its the only main that's just shy of a oneshot breakpoint but i've not looked at all of them

[umbral elbow]

Ah so dtr is a bit better if you're just that good then I see I see

[tardy ingot]

well
yesnt

dmr is generally the better gun

dtr has a crazy ceiling tho

[umbral elbow]

Yeah it sounds like if you could get really good with dtr it'd be great

[ocean spindle]

||the sniper and the r8c1 overload enemy!||

kmsdkms

its not a main but i had to say it

[meager mortar]

OKAY FINE TWO WEAPONS

[rocky torrent]

what is generally the most ammo effecient main?

into small enemies

ig hel shotty would be nuts up close

[grizzled patrol]

Pbly Hel revo or Hel shotty with max pen

[ocean spindle]

in theory probs in practice is hard to tell

[tardy ingot]

if you account for pen its hel revo

[ocean spindle]

my gut says hel revo with lineups cuz its... more feasible

[rocky torrent]

i see

[frigid obsidian]

I'm still trying to figure out what combo I should be running. I'm really just trying to find what's comfortable for mobbing with plenty of bullets, then a secondary to drop whatever big guy is giving me the most trouble.

[tardy ingot]

if you dont but perfect play machine pp/dtr iirc

[tardy ingot]

many bullets =/= good

[rocky torrent]

i cant seem to get that much value out of hel weapons but im sure thats just a skissue

[tardy ingot]

or efficient for that part

[grizzled patrol]

Slug + sniper

[meager mortar]

if you have like +15% main damage on hel rev it also oneshots both shooters and strikers to head

[frigid obsidian]

I'm sure that with setup penetrating rounds is a game-changer, but at the same time I've probably only capitalized off it like, 10 times in all my hours so far.

Almost certainly skill issue on my end lol

[rocky torrent]

ive mostly been running like burst rifle and whatever the burst SMG is for main

and sniper special

i get that the sniper is bad from what ive read

[tardy ingot]

its rly rly niche

[rocky torrent]

and i do always find myself super high on ammo

and really fukn low on main ammo

[ocean spindle]

burst rifle my beloved

[frigid obsidian]

Burst pistol & carbine here, with either the sniper or scattergun. I was using the standard pistol a ton but it seems the burst pistol is more efficient?

[rocky torrent]

but when theres giants its so nice to just pop 10 of them in a row

[void kestrel]

PR > DTR and DMR

[umbral elbow]

Machine pp is ammo eff?

[meager mortar]

i think under ideal circumstances you can make a strong case for hel revo or hel shotgun. if you cant land your shots then it's probably the sawed off

[frigid obsidian]

Idk, I could've sworn that the regular pistol was a two tap... but I'm only just coming back to the game after a very long time away. It might've been in the past, or I'm gaslighting myself.

[grizzled patrol]

BP is on paper good, but feels Bad to Play with

[tardy ingot]

in theory
realistically you dont get that basically ever

[rocky torrent]

would say burst SMG and BC be a better loadout?

[tardy ingot]

in theory its more efficient, but it rly doesnt matter
pistol is a decent main
burst pistol is a weak one

[tardy ingot]

"on paper" 💀 nah

[tardy ingot]

burst smg?

[frigid obsidian]

Yeah. What I found I like with the burst pistol so much is how well it hip-fires

[rocky torrent]

whatever the 4 round burst is

[umbral elbow]

Too wild?

[tardy ingot]

carbine

[rocky torrent]

i forgor

[void kestrel]

carbine

[rocky torrent]

ah yeah carbine

[tardy ingot]

carbines a good solid pick

[meager mortar]

4 round burst is carbine, its real solid

[tardy ingot]

cant rly go wrong with it, not top tier but right below that tier pretty much

[rocky torrent]

and BC for special?

[void kestrel]

to be fair the carbine does look like a vector

[tardy ingot]

#guides-and-reviews message (check this playlist)

[void kestrel]

which is an SMG

[grizzled patrol]

It Has 160 damage per refill while normal pistol Has only 139

[tardy ingot]

controlling the firerate, getting perfect accuracy and no overshooting is kinda... just not possible

[tardy ingot]

thats the efficiency part lol

[umbral elbow]

Understandable - machine gun meme moment?

[frigid obsidian]

I thought the burst pistol was just an objective downgrade at first, but with more use it I feel like it has my back when I get overwhelmed with enemies. I can just drop the sights, hip-fire whatever's rushing me and regain control of the situation.

[meager mortar]

i am a carbine appreciator. if you can hit at least one headshot out eight bullets(rest being body), you kill strikers and shooters in 8 bullets or less

[tardy ingot]

machine pistol has insanely high dmg per refill
its still not even a B tier main

[umbral elbow]

What are carbine's breakpoints?

[grizzled patrol]

Yes, He asked whether BP was more efficient

[tardy ingot]

learn to do that with pistol too
it does this even better since you 1 tap stagger and have easier breakpoints for killing

[umbral elbow]

Ahh and you can stagger then follow up?

[tardy ingot]

shoot
kill

jk

you generally kill in 2 bursts

but like ngl
if you guys are interested in gun knowledge and what to use it for, scroll up in the guides & reviews channel as theres videos over it and/or check rayalots reddit post about it

[frigid obsidian]

Yeah, I'll take a look, thank you! I'm still new to how this server is laid out and have a feeling a lot of my questions are incredibly redundant

[umbral elbow]

Yeah I've seen your vids, they're great ^_^

[frigid obsidian]

I do appreciate how patient y'all have been.

[tardy ingot]

nah asking questions is always good

[meager mortar]

its really funny playing with rayalott and then learning that he wrote a lot of the resources i found researching the game kek

[umbral elbow]

I will yap and nobody can stop me, ehe

[meager mortar]

in that order

[tardy ingot]

the only bad thing about this discord is some members like to troll/spread missinfo for the lulz sometimes
which is fun if its between experienced people and clears up
but not so much if a beginner gets confused (imo)

[grizzled patrol]

[frail heart]

this guy particularly

[tardy ingot]

I am looking at you for this yes

[grizzled patrol]

[civic wave]

i remember being new to the game in og r5 and my group seeing rayalot's scout kill videos

[sturdy glen]

omg rayalot 😍

[civic wave]

now half of said group has done some speeds with ray

[tardy ingot]

phantazm and you?

[frigid obsidian]

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm being gaslighted on the HEL shotgun ngl lol

[civic wave]

beth

when the fuck has phant done speeds with ray

[tardy ingot]

idk why
its just a rly strong main, basically the power of a special

[frigid obsidian]

Maybe I just got unlucky but missing 9 back to back shots on a striker as it was hitting me hurt my soul in ways I am unfamiliar with

[civic wave]

we whisked him in for r4e1 but that was with hani

[tardy ingot]

idk
was just guessing

[frigid obsidian]

I feel like I drew an exact outline of this guy, and seeing how it was the last wave and I was the clutch, uhh... yeaaah

not gonna live that one down for a minute. lol

[meager mortar]

hel shotgun is a great gun that i hate using

[umbral elbow]

I can never quite seem to make it work

[meager mortar]

oh actually hel shotgun is another gun that meets a breakpoint at minimum +main damage boosters

one shots strikers to head at 5% increase. wacky

[civic wave]

(or you play client)

[meager mortar]

what's different about client? weird precision damage calc or something?

[burnt inlet]

Chat am I one of dems?

[tardy ingot]

no

[burnt inlet]

Damn I need to troll harder

[civic wave]

host fires into head -> head takes enough damage -> head immediately disappears -> rest of pellets miss because the head is gone
client fires into head -> regardless of how much damage the head takes, it will not disappear in time -> because the head doesn't disappear in time all pellets hit head

basically

[burnt inlet]

^ isn’t this due to ping?

[meager mortar]

oh, i see. that's goofy, but it makes sense. There's a really similar interaction with scattergun and [late game enemy] ||nightmare scouts|| because it registers before breaking the ||tumors||

[grizzled patrol]

Latency yes

[burnt inlet]

Ping = latency no?

[tardy ingot]

any enemy with tumors

Also funnily enough you can kill n-scouts anyway as host with scatter. In 2 ways even (both are pretty fucked tho)

[civic wave]

yeah basically, the limb/tumour interaction exists for all enemies

[civic wave]

i love hitting the neck area that for some reason is unarmoured/getting enough pellets to hit front AND back AT THE SAME TIME

[meager mortar]

im like a decade removed from that uni course but afai remember latency is delay before info is processed. ping is how long that information takes to get where it needs to go

[tardy ingot]

[meager mortar]

so ironically latency can be pretty consistant

[burnt inlet]

I swear I’ve seen them used for the same things lol

[meager mortar]

please share i'm so curious

[grizzled patrol]

Same thing, but Ping is a way to mesure it iirc

[tardy ingot]

Goat gave a rough explanation

[burnt inlet]

Chat I’m googling this

[meager mortar]

oh i missed it, that's so fucked

[meager mortar]

ping calculation includes latency, but latency doesn't factor ping?

[burnt inlet]

Ping: Ping is a network utility used to measure the round-trip time it takes for a data packet to travel from your device to a server and back. It is often used to test the responsiveness of a network connection. The result is typically expressed in milliseconds (ms). A lower ping value indicates a faster and more responsive connection.
Latency: Latency is the time it takes for a data packet to travel from the sender to the receiver. It can be one-way or round-trip. In the context of network performance, latency is often used to describe the round-trip delay, which is similar to the ping measurement. However, latency can also refer to other delays in the system, such as processing delays on the server or client side. High latency can result in noticeable delays in real-time applications like online gaming or video streaming.

Bruh how do I do the quote thing on mobile

Dc mobile sucks

[burnt inlet]

No other way around¿

[meager mortar]

anyways one of many reasons why scattergun is goofy and funny and great

[burnt inlet]

So it’s latency cuz we are doing S => steam server => R, R => steam server => S where S is sender and R is receiver

[burnt inlet]

Scattergun is great and all but I feel like hel rifle is better in most levels tbh, might be skill issue

[meager mortar]

brother i don't know enough about this game's back end to confirm or deny that. all i know is that this game is p2p and sometimes that peer is in germany and my life sucks

[grizzled patrol]

BC is more fun, the 3 kill bursts are such a Dopamine rush

[burnt inlet]

Don’t say that whilst two Germans are here lol

[grizzled patrol]

Live inside their Walls. Problem solved

[burnt inlet]

Ok I’m coming down malefic

[meager mortar]

i think that the germans have some historical grievances about americans overstaying their welcome

[tardy ingot]

Then you achieve a 5+ scatter kill

[grizzled patrol]

German Walls should be thicc enough for that

[fathom ice]

ngl

[burnt inlet]

God I wish I had German ”blinds”

[fathom ice]

5 burst bc felt better

recoil wise

idk why

[burnt inlet]

Prolly call them ”metallengardiner”

[ocean spindle]

more power

big gun go big

[grizzled patrol]

I dont remember anymore, but werent the Last couple of bullets Almost with No recoil?

[fathom ice]

it felt like it

[tardy ingot]

??

We have rollos

[meager mortar]

like, the candy?

[burnt inlet]

Yanno those metal blinds that you roll down, creating pitch dark and sound deadening

[burnt inlet]

That might be the actual word lol

[tardy ingot]

„Roll“

We press a button

[burnt inlet]

Idk I’ve seen like one clip 2 years ago I’m goldfish 🐡

[grizzled patrol]

Oh those Things. Been a while since i have Last Seen them. They are more of a anti theft mechanism where i live

[civic wave]

comparing recoil to og r4 like

yeah of course it feels better in og

guns had 0 recoil then

[burnt inlet]

Fairs, still I’d love those, we only have them in stores but having consumer versions would be goated ngl

[civic wave]

5 burst with recoil in ALT R4/5/6 or whatever

if you left it it'd fly

[fathom ice]

it's so much better than current bc

it's insane

[tardy ingot]

alt r4 burst cannon

Was actually awful

19 dmg

yikes

[civic wave]

oh god that shit

[tardy ingot]

awful recoil and 19 dmg was so stupid

[burnt inlet]

Atp walk up and spit on them lol

[uneven kiln]

wasn't this when it was still penta burst?

[ocean spindle]

yes

[crystal blaze]

The majestic Alt R4E1 tank meeting the end of my scattergun

[frail saffron]

Anyone have any advice on how to do R2D2? Been attempting it for several days with a full team and the farthest we made it was wave 6

[mossy aurora]

hold on the bridge

[meager mortar]

The bridge is a pretty safe hold for the entire mission, esp if you have a sentry pointed towards reactor room to alert you if something is coming. Once it's open, some people like to hold in the room just south of reactor and open the east door in the fog to funnel. Both are acceptable options, but the latter takes a while to get all the spawns to trickle to you, and it eats into your time.

Burn through your side room resources before resorting to the reactor resources. you can also rotate higher use resources into the reactor room if there's still stuff in there to swap with.

Terminal locations are consistent (which terminal has the code isn't), and the first key location is, too. The second key can be in one of two zones, so you want to figure out where you are going before it becomes important.

You're on a pretty brisk timetable, but if you know where the terminals are, you're going to have plenty of time to loot. Don't leave loot in zones you're not revisiting if you can help it.

Triggering scouts wont end your run, but being pinched between the scout wave and the room you just made angry absolutely can. there's not a ton of doors to work with at any point you'd encounter a scout though, so if one gets triggered you need to make sure someone is covering behind you.

[runic roost]

chat is sniper good against chad squidward

[burnt inlet]

Not good against anything else. Melee the 🇹🇩 squidwards (unless it’s the funi ones ig)

[runic roost]

Nice nice

[whole summit]

Question on how scout waves work. Assume a scenario where there is one large room with 3 scouts and a lot of smalls. If I shoot so room wakes up then all scouts scream, the game will try to spawn 3 scouts waves. The game will still only spawn up to the max enemy count though right? Also do the smalls in the room count towards that max count?

[errant dome]

game will only spawn up to the max count correct, enemies in the room do count towards the cap, if enemies are capped then the scout waves will be on que (they'll spawn once you kill enough enemies)

[whole summit]

Ah ok, so a scout will always spawn its wave even if it is being currently capped?

[errant dome]

AFAIK yes

reactors also work in a similar manner

alarms are the main thing where if your on cap no more enemies can spawn and they dont que up

[whole summit]

That makes sense thanks

[errant dome]

one more thing, do note that there are a few exception to "game will only spawn up to the max count", certain enemies and blood doors ignore this restriction

max count is 25, tho enemies are weighted differently (strikers and shooters are 1, then giants iirc were 2)

[whole summit]

I see

I assume the enemies that ignore are boss/mini boss enemies?

[errant dome]

more or less ya, its a bit more nuanced than that but im not sure if you care about spoilers or not

[whole summit]

Nah I already spoiled myself

[wild flare]

You can block boss enemies spawn, if you sitting at enemy cap

[safe cradle]

they queue

so whenever they can, they're gonna spawn

reactors are the same BUT they have a different cap

as in, alarmcap is NOT reactorcap

I think the numbers are they same but they're parallel

[whole summit]

Gotcha

[wild flare]

Many solo runs use giant cap kiting strat, so new enemies will never spawn

[errant dome]

If you dont mind spoilers: ||Mother and big mother have their own spawn cap separate from the global cap when they spawn babies, each indivdiual mom has their own caps as well, so it doesnt matter if you have 100+ enemies awake as long as mom doesnt have her cap of babies she can spawn more||

[whole summit]

Gadzooks

That's pretty nasty

[errant dome]

they have a decently long cooldown between spawning plus there are quite a few good baby clear weapons and boss shredding weapon so most of the time u can manage without issue

[prime musk]

technically the count depends on how it was spawned (the enemy's role in the group), but generally it's 1 for smalls and 2 for bigs yeah

[whole summit]

I'm a little sad my attempted cheese strat doesn't work but it makes sense why they do it that way

[wild flare]

Dont do this kind of strat tbh unless you are like HARD stuck or you play solo, long kiting and blocking enemy spawn because of it is boring imo

[errant dome]

hmm i thought strikers and shooters are always 1 and giants are always 2? i know other enemies can sometimes be a bit more wonky

[prime musk]

any enemy can be anything, 0.75, 1 or 2

but in almost all the spawnblocks, the weakling (0.75) role isn't used, and the bigs are given 2 and smalls 1

notable exceptions being in the hybrid surges, where hybrids are 1 (special role, replacing shooters) and things like r5e1 scout wave, where all roles are filled with bigs (so they have any value)

[errant dome]

i see

wasnt there 1.5 as well?

i thought thats what tanks usually have

[prime musk]

idt so

i haven't looked at room (sleeping) spawns, if they too can have different spawncap values but i assume it's the same system at play

[hoary mason]

how's the giant cap weight is 2 and tanks cap weight is 1.5?!?

[prime musk]

tanks aren't weighted 1.5

(at least not if sleeping enemies don't have different spawncap values)

[errant dome]

its not uncommon for things that make 0 sense to be the actual case of whats happening shrug

i remember having a convo here at some point and someone mentioned that tanks were 1.5 towards spawncap

well either way i doubt that 0.5 makes a diff like 99% of the time anyways

[prime musk]

^

generelly you only care about the exact values when setting up a kite with sleeping enemies, but like

how about don't

[chilly chasm]

hi guys im new to gtfo and i want to find people to play with but when i make a lobby nobody joins im wondering if its a setting thats keeping people from joining or smth

[ocean spindle]

its pretty early in the mornin rn for LFG, and if ur using ingame matchmaking it tends to not be rlly good

[burnt inlet]

not rly for EU peps

[burnt inlet]

dont use the in game MM, use this instead

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

well skill issue

[low radish]

Yeah skill issue moth

Just change countries it's that easy

[azure narwhal]

what if bat staggered everything on a tap hit and heavy staggered everything on a charged hit

like

every enemy in the game

[low radish]

Broken

That would be broken

[azure narwhal]

will it be viable

[low radish]

R4E1 error alarm suddenly is easy

[ocean spindle]

it, sort of does ?

[azure narwhal]

doesnt it only tap stagger sleepers and shooters

[low radish]

Keksi means like boss enemies too

Everything

[azure narwhal]

like imagine tap staggering a giant

[ocean spindle]

well yes and chargers and shadows i believe but it do be heavy staggerin everything on a charge hit

[azure narwhal]

could fight like 4 giants at once

[low radish]

R7E1 would be a joke

[ocean spindle]

yes

it can for onee

[azure narwhal]

oh yeee chargers too i think so too

[low radish]

Can It stagger pablo

[tardy ingot]

Cant light stagger if you do 0 dmg

[low radish]

Wait it can't

[low radish]

Yeah

[ocean spindle]

it can stagger pablos wife

[low radish]

😳

[azure narwhal]

why isnt there an aoe melee

[low radish]

You know what why doesn't the warden give us a rocket launcher at this point

[azure narwhal]

hammer shouldve been like reinhardt from ow

[azure narwhal]

i actually already wished for this weapon talking to my friends haha

[little pilot]

technically all melees have AOE. someone roll a triple melee hit kill with hammer

[azure narwhal]

they have???

[low radish]

I know you can kill enemies close to each other

[azure narwhal]

i thought they are programmed to only be able to do damage to one thing

except for knife and spear

[low radish]

You hitbox can hit both if they're close enough

[low radish]

Nope

[azure narwhal]

no only spear i thought

[prime musk]

nah all melees can

[azure narwhal]

yee i just thought the hurtbox dissapears after hitting something

[prime musk]

they just need to hit all the enemies on same frame

[low radish]

Of hitbox is large enough to kill two enemies close to each other it can

[ocean spindle]

when ur circle is not small ur melee is a hitbox, is ur circle is small its a hitscan

[azure narwhal]

oh okay but even tho it sounds precise it isnt actually so hard right? (assuming the enemies really are stacked VERY close)

[low radish]

Depends

Easier with hammer and spear than knife

[prime musk]

double hits can be consistent if the enemies you're trying to hit are set up correctly

[low radish]

Depends where the weapon swings from

[prime musk]

knife double kills ive only gotten in active combat vs awake enemies

[little pilot]

if your hitbox intersects with 2 enemies in the same frame, you will hit both, can be done somewhat consistently on sleeping enemies that are very close

[low radish]

Can confirm

I've never killed asleep enemies that way but awake ones I did

[azure narwhal]

dammnnn i didnt know that,,, so if my crosshair is on their head and the circle is small does that mean it will ALWAYS hit the head cuz its just a straight line hitscan? oorrrr does it not work like that?

[little pilot]

it's just whether or not you know how to aim for the double hit

[azure narwhal]

i have only done it with spear so far

[ocean spindle]

i believe it does

[low radish]

I did with spear, knife and hammer

I mostly did it with knife in combat

[azure narwhal]

and now that i think about it, i think one time i hit a double kill on sleeping enemies with the hammer, i didnt really understand why the other one died and didnt really think about it

[azure narwhal]

is knife and spear lingering hitbox out for the same amount of time?

[low radish]

Can't tell I don't use spear anymore

I only use knife

[azure narwhal]

consumed by the meta

[low radish]

Eh, I just don't like the range and the slowness

[azure narwhal]

me too, i also dont play it xD

[ocean spindle]

me using spear every 5 years

[low radish]

I prefer to run around and stab everything like a maniac

[prime musk]

knife is def out for longer than spear

knife lingering hitbox is extremely generous

[azure narwhal]

yee thats why i also love knife,, also wanna get into bat a bit more because you can just panic and spam left click if two enemies are awake,,, BTW: how many smalls are able to be staggered at once with the bat so that no one of them can alert/attack

[azure narwhal]

yee i also always felt like that was the case

[low radish]

Only one I think

[azure narwhal]

wait really?? it feels quick enough to do at least 2 (never tested tho, just feeling)

[low radish]

Im not sure since it was long ago when I used the bat

[azure narwhal]

is bat louder than other melees? i know knife is quiet but dont know about the others

one time i killed a sleeper with the bat and one that was like ~12 meters or something away woke up which is crazy to me

[low radish]

Yeah knife is quieter but I have no idea how loud the rest are

I think the rest might be the same value

[tardy ingot]

the range doesnt change for knife on long range aggro

its just the % chance

all melees not called knife behave the same for this

[azure narwhal]

actually watched your video on that a few days ago haha, forgot about the loudness n shi

[tardy ingot]

knife simply has slightly lower trigger range on hitting objects (smashlocks or surfaces)

[azure narwhal]

oh thats it?

and the % ofc

[burnt inlet]

you should lol

[low radish]

No. I'm a proud polish woman

POLSKA GUROM 🔥

[burnt inlet]

average nationalist moment

[azure narwhal]

where can i find the hp of specific limbs e.g. for the giant?

[fathom ice]

giant limbs are 40

oh wait

fuck I fell into it again

limbs are 15

i'm not falling into this again

[civic wave]

stagger hp of giant, this one is

[fathom ice]

yes

[sturdy glen]

Didn't delete the evidence

It's over for you buddy

[fathom ice]

😔

[azure narwhal]

every limb? like head, feet and arms all have same hp?

meant to answer to the one saying 15

[civic wave]

yeah each limb shares the same max hp value

strikers it's 5 iirc

giants 15

head counts as a limb

[azure narwhal]

wait so knife should easily one shot the head to the back of the head if giant is awake

[fathom ice]

it does remove a head

@azure narwhal knife hitbox is slightly below the actual circle so u prob wanna go for head always if giant is sleeping

cuz if not and it's winding tongue he'll extend his head making it very difficult to hit it

[azure narwhal]

okayyy (ill still go for it)

[fathom ice]

gl getting punched !

[azure narwhal]

-80%

[sturdy glen]

10

[tardy ingot]

goat likely just confused stagger hp with limb hp

[sturdy glen]

Same thing sky did lol

[prime musk]

team im labbing hel gun sentry e2 solo and i can't figure out the booster setup
muted dmg for 2tap on nm strikers forces aggressive bioscan if you want any, which locks you into bold supply
on the other hand, is the bioscan actually worth it (saves ~2 min of scan time best case scenario) compared to just aggressive main dmg for sawed off 1shot on nm strikers

[civic wave]

FUCK

[inner inlet]

Try useing the pistol

[azure narwhal]

so its not 15?

also: when does a freshly woken up enemy alert and when does it attack? is it a fixed choice or a chance?

[fathom ice]

it's 5 in chaddown !

[grizzled patrol]

Not Just the head, any of the Body parts (as Long as you are getting the Back hitbox)

[prime musk]

if you're in attack range it should always choose to attack, but if it isn't staggered between attacks it may choose to scream inbetween attacks as the attack cooldown is longer than the time it takes to do an attack for (almost) all attacks

[grizzled patrol]

Solo stealthing Chikens is scary

[inner inlet]

Chicken jocky!

[grizzled patrol]

[umbral elbow]

@tardy ingot I saw your recent video and was wondering why you advise against sentries on the outside of doors - also, does this change if c-foam is used?

[fathom ice]

cuz ur enemies are dying to a cfoam mine anyway

so ure just wasting tool

[frail heart]

You are better letting the enemies trickle in instead of having them pile up on the door and coming in all at once

[tardy ingot]

especially so yes

leave doors open if you use sentries or place them on the inside so they only shoot when the door breaks

[frigid obsidian]

Is there any way to tweak gamma/brightness? One of my friends has had to change his monitor settings every time we go to play. I thought bro just didn't like the dark, but having seen it now his monitor is straight up 30% darker than mine.

[tardy ingot]

sadly no
is it litteraly just darkness? (even with flashlight on?)

[frigid obsidian]

His long range flashlight tool is about equivalent to my pistol flashlight unless he changes his monitor's settings. It's pretty rough.

[tardy ingot]

does he have ambience fog?

[frigid obsidian]

Yeah, I'm not sure if there's a fix in tweaking that any.

I can see if we can maybe tweak his GPU settings, specifically for this game. I figured I'd ask if there's any hidden text file or whatever before going that far though.

[neon gust]

theres no way that people still putting sentries behind doors

in 2025

[umbral elbow]

Thank you for the response!

[burnt inlet]

Unless I’m guessing ur running tripple sentry?

[umbral elbow]

We started playing less than a month ago so it's more possible than you think!

[neon gust]

if it was 2019 i will believe you

[burnt inlet]

As long as it works lol

[neon gust]

IT DONT 😭

[umbral elbow]

The last time I played before this month was pre-release open beta, ehe

[burnt inlet]

Hel auto is good behind doors tho no?

[umbral elbow]

Hey it kills em!

[ocean spindle]

not rlly?

[fathom ice]

only reason is back damage

[burnt inlet]

Damn

[fathom ice]

and even then it's cooked

[ocean spindle]

u can get that without closing the door

[neon gust]

on really niche scenario and if you take the statement of back damage enable on it on face value yes

[fathom ice]

exactly

[tardy ingot]

just leave doors open then (especially to funnel if you can)

[tardy ingot]

yesnt

[burnt inlet]

At least it wasn’t like dymus hel auto placement (placed it behind the enemies facing us and yes I took more dmg from that sentry than the enemies)

[ocean spindle]

:3

[tardy ingot]

thats kinda the strat tho

[burnt inlet]

:3

[tardy ingot]

but usually at a choke where you are not

[burnt inlet]

Yea no it was at R2D2 bridge

And guess where we were holding

[ocean spindle]

the only sentry u put behind a door is shotgun sentry, and u dont take shotgun sentry

[burnt inlet]

(It was a meme run)

[ocean spindle]

[burnt inlet]

Lol fax unless ur my lord and savior scaler (haven’t watched a guide in a while tho)

[neon gust]

this is so sad can we please have a new player get stuck on r1c1

[hard nexus]

no

instead we have new player and 2 bots do 3a3 first try

[umbral elbow]

What do folks think of the slug shotty?

[minor fractal]

Not top tier, but very underrated

[umbral elbow]

It seems to one shot smalls?

[minor fractal]

Yeah

Short range, though

[umbral elbow]

Ah is it now

I see I see

Oh and it doesn't even need to headshot??

[prime musk]

at very short ranges, no
but even with a little falloff it requires headshot

[umbral elbow]

I see I see

It is certainly pretty nifty when it works

[prime musk]

it is a fun weapon to play

[keen path]

Hello what is the worst gun to use other than autos?

Trying to screw my friends around to skill check them

[fathom ice]

is it a rifle angle

[ocean spindle]

uhh not being an auto is probs the burst pistol?

[fathom ice]

ohh right

[ocean spindle]

but on mains anything that is not an auto it works fine

[keen path]

the worst one community-agreed wise

[ocean spindle]

pistol rifle even slug is about fine

[fathom ice]

bp is prob worst

[ocean spindle]

yeah id say bp for mains is the worst

[keen path]

bp-sniper a fine loadout?

[ocean spindle]

on special short rifle

uhhh

[fathom ice]

yes

best loadout

[keen path]

thank u

[ocean spindle]

they r gonna shoot like 3 enemies per alarm amazing

[keen path]

yes

and i will consume all ammo

carry that fiver on me at all times

[fathom ice]

i had a bullpup sniper

on e2 today

[keen path]

Diabolical

[fathom ice]

and pistol / sr

it was cooked

[keen path]

im not that evil

I was just gonna do B-C levels with that loadout

[fathom ice]

i mean we almost cleared

[ocean spindle]

that doesnt mean is not that bad ksmdkm

it means someone hard carried that shi

[fathom ice]

i had to yoink most of the ammos so

[ocean spindle]

sounds bout right

[fathom ice]

and even then I got robbed for like 20 uses

it's so sad

it was prob free if we didn't get tank on class 6

[ocean spindle]

what

[fathom ice]

he was late

from wave 3

for like 6 minutes

[ocean spindle]

but likee, a lot late what the fuck

what did u do kmdskm

did u hold like at drop or something

[fathom ice]

it just happens sometimes

na the usual

[ocean spindle]

bulkhead door?

[fathom ice]

a bit further

that corridor

room outside bk door

[ocean spindle]

i bet my life savings someone stepeped out of the room and it just made him appear out much farther

[fathom ice]

i mean

i checked replay

he was in B of first class 6 zone so

kek

[ocean spindle]

oh ok no ideea then :D

well yes idea

[fathom ice]

it just happens sometimes

[ocean spindle]

he was just sleeping

[fathom ice]

na

he was awake

just afk

for whatever reason

[ocean spindle]

nah nah u dont kno it was taking a nap he just breatees very heavily while doing so

[fathom ice]

prob

[ocean spindle]

i should play e2 again at some point

[fathom ice]

as long as u have people

[ocean spindle]

im just afraid of how bad ive become

[fathom ice]

who's not foaming floor

for all the respawn rooms

[ocean spindle]

[fathom ice]

ure bing chilling

[ocean spindle]

me missing eveery shot on my uh short rifle idk

[prime musk]

team im going to crash out

in r3d1
standing in 388B
error spawns inside 389c (3 room spawn) and takes door

[fathom ice]

where tf is C

is it key room

[prime musk]

key room

[frail heart]

yes

[fathom ice]

isn't it 2

[frail heart]

388B

[prime musk]

no i was standing in 388b

[frail heart]

is second room

in spawn zone

[fathom ice]

oh

nvm

average !

u get a free door break

can't complain

[prime musk]

man trying to solo r3d1 with revo/revo stopped being fun

[fathom ice]

i keep getting a giant every wave

with 4 smalls

not playing it anymore

[prime musk]

i want a clear with fun weapons but it isn't happening because the wave giants just force you to play something that can quickly kill them

[fathom ice]

sawed off

[grizzled patrol]

short rifle

[prime musk]

sawed off is boring

[fathom ice]

high cal

[prime musk]

maybe high cal

[fathom ice]

scattergun !!!!!!!

[ocean spindle]

pistol pistol

pistol high cal

[prime musk]

revo revo is fun because synergy

with high cal i'd have to play slug for quickswap or something

[fathom ice]

u mean hel revo / revo?

[prime musk]

ye

[fathom ice]

ig

play dmr

for shooters !

[hard nexus]

rifle rifle

[ocean spindle]

whats thee point if the name isnt funny

[prime musk]

i could ig

[hard nexus]

hear me out

[prime musk]

kinda lost the interest for today though

[hard nexus]

machinepistol machinegun

[fathom ice]

avg

[civic wave]

r3d1 is a boring ass solo tbh

[fathom ice]

its kinda fun the first time

after is just

jukt

[civic wave]

you see there's the problem

i was around long enough to realise that solo sucks before ever touching r3d1 solo

so even the first time sucks

[hard nexus]

coop game sucks solo

who could have thought

[fathom ice]

fair

[ocean spindle]

duo is fun i like duo

[prime musk]

ngl the only reason solo sucks is that you're so much more vulnerable to rng

otherwise it's mostly fine

(apart from forced kiting strats or similar)

[fathom ice]

u can't shoot everything in solo

in duo u can

[fathom ice]

^

[hard nexus]

game not doable solo without crazy rng and/or explots

mostly fine

[prime musk]

yeah because like

[fathom ice]

it is atp

it's like only r7e1 left i think

to figure out

[hard nexus]

dafuq is atp

[prime musk]

a majority of the levels are full clearable solo without any cheese at all

[fathom ice]

at this point

[hard nexus]

its an endless argument

but majorty of levels doesnt count as a game

[fathom ice]

i mean

again it's just r7e1 left

[prime musk]

most of the levels = most of the game

what part about the word "mostly" do you not understand

[hard nexus]

(dont) come to steam forums and talk about it

nobody will understand

if one level isnt doable

gg

you lose the argument

[prime musk]

it is doable just no one has bothered to figure it out
with boosters it's probably not that hard compared to r4e1 or e2 solo either

[fathom ice]

ur reactor is fucked

[hard nexus]

its doable
no one has done it

[fathom ice]

ur s scan is fucked

[hard nexus]

pick one

[prime musk]

sky the entire section up until reactor is already done

boosterless, even iirc

[fathom ice]

yeah what now

[prime musk]

are all the code hunt zones respawn

[hard nexus]

now we concede and wait for dow

[fathom ice]

yes

they are all

respawns

every room after stealth zones is a respawn

outside of 2 connector tiles and reactor

[hard nexus]

connector

that word triggers something in my mind

what map was it

[civic wave]

everything after thunderdome is respawn because the teleport kills everything in the map lmaooooooo game design

[fathom ice]

mirage

[prime musk]

code 1 is free (comparatively)
code 2 similarly
code 3 and 4 probably suck but you just get 3, reset wave, and clear it again no biggie with supply efficiency

[hard nexus]

i fucking hate that map

[fathom ice]

same

[hard nexus]

to be honest i hate every map

[fathom ice]

ure always waking respawns

from stealth zones

unless u run seeded

[frail heart]

in what?

4th?

[fathom ice]

7e1

ye

[prime musk]

why

[fathom ice]

cuz ur path is fucked

[frail heart]

room is quite free a lot of the time

no

its just babies scouts and boss

[fathom ice]

that's why u run seeded

cuz ure not rolling rng after all that work kek

[prime musk]

yeah and it's completely fine then

[fathom ice]

code 3 is prob worst

[frail heart]

what

[fathom ice]

ure pushing back into shadows

[hard nexus]

also

wtf is etch

[fathom ice]

it's kinda jukt

[hard nexus]

i got that code today in reactor

[frail heart]

?

[fathom ice]

like u clear shadow zone

u clear wave

u go grab code 3

[prime musk]

code 3 you're backtracking through code 2 zone

[fathom ice]

go back clear shadows again

yea

[frail heart]

why not fight in code 2

[fathom ice]

u do

it respawns

if u get code 3

[frail heart]

oh yeah i forgor

[fathom ice]

ye

so ure forced to repeat prob

and killing another tank

and if anything goes wrong it's cooked

[prime musk]

repeating doesn't matter because supply efficiency

[fathom ice]

u get

8 uses in reactor

that's it

or like 4 in reactor 4 in connector tile

[prime musk]

set seed you get all the ammo from code hunt zones

and all the ammo full stop

[fathom ice]

it's still 3 tanks ideally and a lot of stuff

its a crash out angle

its kinda about surviving too

idk it's unrealistic

u can do seeded reactor prob

but full run is jukt

[frail heart]

i think its more someone just hasnt tried it properly

I dont think its THAT bad

[fathom ice]

set seed and boosted is prob free

it's just a bunch of practice

but it's like not even interesting at this point

[frail heart]

honestly just boosters is probably fine

[fathom ice]

ye

[frail heart]

i think biggest ammo is code 3 prob

[prime musk]

probably supply/supply/infection resist

[fathom ice]

i mean there's not much else to bring honestly

[frail heart]

yeah

yeah idk with bio i dont think its that bad

[prime musk]

it's either a bio or mines angle

[frail heart]

i think bio

is 100% the play

[fathom ice]

i don't see mines use

[prime musk]

free tank kills

[fathom ice]

and u get e trips anyway

nah

[frail heart]

you can mine off reactor waves for 1

[fathom ice]

u get like 2 e mines tho

it's enough for 2 spawns

bio just carries

the whole level prob

[frail heart]

e mines?

[fathom ice]

ye

consumable mines

[frail heart]

i mean if you take mines

you can mine off reactor waves

[fathom ice]

u lose door at some point prob

[frail heart]

yeah

but you mine all of wave one

you dont need to any other wave

[fathom ice]

i mean wave one is

48 strikers

and 4 hybrids

and u get an e mine

so u kill 24 strikers

idk

it's just a bad level for solo

and no one cares anyway

[frail heart]

yeah we do

somewhat

thats why we did shit for e2

[fathom ice]

e2 is kinda diff

has that last level in the game vibe

[prime musk]

ok but consider actually having a 1 on 1 pablo date, has kinda similar energy

[frail heart]

you havent been around for long enough

[fathom ice]

ig

[scarlet narwhal]

Fellas, my group and I are kinda stuck on R4D2 with PE, any tips to not get fogged up to hell and back?

[ocean spindle]

oh hey we just discussing that in gtfo chat

come join

[scarlet narwhal]

shi thats the same group T-T

[midnight gazelle]

• Do Overload, don't pick up cargo
• Do secondary
• Clear out main and kill tank as fast as possible
• Run back and grab cargo
• Start heading to extract and closing as many door as possible

[frail heart]

also make sure to not step into extract room until you are back with the cargo because it starts the charger error

[scarlet narwhal]

Yeah we're tryna do this we've just been too slow

[obtuse cairn]

im considering buying the game bc its on sale, but i dont have any friends to play it with and im afraid of messing up and getting yelled at

whats the community like?

and is it worth me spending my money if i wont be able to play without friends?

[ocean spindle]

i am of the opinion that if u dont mind putting time on it and commiting to it cuz is a bit of a game to do that, its worth
the community has newies when its on sale usually, and as long as u specify that u dont wanna get carried its pretty nice

rlly moree than getting yelled- cuz that only happens if u do things on very late levels and if ur like rude or something- its getting carried

[obtuse cairn]

all the reviews say its really hard, which i don't mind, but im very sensitive to being yelled at

[ocean spindle]

but u can always specify

[obtuse cairn]

i just need ppl to be patient w me </3

[ocean spindle]

u can always put that in ur discord message ksks

[obtuse cairn]

what does ksks mean? /genq

[ocean spindle]

oh its just like keysmashing its a "lol"

[obtuse cairn]

ohh srry

[ocean spindle]

its okii

[frail heart]

just post in the beginners channel and you can make it clear there

people are pretty chill

[obtuse cairn]

okay

i think ill buy it

[frail heart]

huge

[obtuse cairn]

i just did

[ocean spindle]

:O

[obtuse cairn]

ESTIMATED 8 AND AHALF HOURS?

for the download time????

[frail heart]

damn

ur internet is even more cooked than mine

and im aussie

[obtuse cairn]

wait it just jumped to 2 and a half

now 2

[frail heart]

yeah itll do that

[ocean spindle]

now it goes up to 4 MONTHS

MWAHAHAHAHA

[obtuse cairn]

nooOOO

[ocean spindle]

:3

[obtuse cairn]

gadies and lentlement we just hit 50%

[ocean spindle]

🎉

[obtuse cairn]

WE GOT 69% DOWNLOADED!!

84%

finished downloading

[ocean spindle]

lets goo

tutorial time

[obtuse cairn]

im scared lmao

[ocean spindle]

:D

[obtuse cairn]

i did it

i died the first time but did it the second

i love that turret

that turret is my buddy

[knotty relic]

Turret is fren

Turret requires head pats

[obtuse cairn]

yess

[burnt inlet]

Unless you go in front of turret

Then turret not frien

[void kestrel]

When the pin is pulled, Mr grenade is no longer your friend

[knotty relic]

We have grenades?????

[burnt inlet]

the trustworthy foam grenade

[knotty relic]

Oh true lol

I was thinking frag and was making a funni but joke's actually on me

[burnt inlet]

Prolly was originally

Cuz when we pull da foam nades pin its still our frien🙃

[grizzled patrol]

Just wait Till you See the Foam Rocket launcher

[burnt inlet]

is silent shooting when you shoot when a door opens/closes?

[civic wave]

that's one way to do it

the other is being client, swinging melee, instantly swapping to gun and shooting, then swapping back to melee

[burnt inlet]

its considered a bug right?

[void kestrel]

That sounds riskier than just shooting lol

[burnt inlet]

yea kinda lol

[tardy ingot]

You rly dont need to swing melee

Its just going from a slot that doesnt make a sound to one that can (and back just in case usually) to have the game not realize you made the sound (only works for clients)

You can also do the reverse by swapping from a gun to something else and wake up rooms without having shot (at least with cfoam ) aka a reverse silent shot

[civic wave]

^^

but swinging melee is consistent

[errant dome]

depends on how you define a "bug", the one thing we can tell for u sure is that it is NOT intentional/intended

[tardy ingot]

seen as a glitch in speedrunning too (the broken version at least, abusing doors is allowed)

[burnt inlet]

Aight fair

[fathom ice]

me when I silent shoot 4 times due to quick swaps

smh

literally made me go 0/0 once

[burnt inlet]

I don’t think I’ve silent shot once, maybe accidentally

[fathom ice]

you're hosting

u can't

[burnt inlet]

Not even closing door works?

Then there’s only two times where I could’ve but no I don’t think so either

[tardy ingot]

Again we dont rly call those silent shots in general terms

[fathom ice]

ye

door tech !

no wait door tech is a tank kill

hmmm

[civic wave]

no, that's door fucking

[burnt inlet]

Oh ok mb

[burnt inlet]

Might do this tbh

If I’m in that situation

[tardy ingot]

You cant as host either way

[burnt inlet]

yea i meant "if im in that situation" like client and we are in that typa level (been pubbing more lately so i wouldnt cross that out completely)

[patent mulch]

I got a teammate that keeps on accidently silent shooting like 4 times per run 😭

[burnt inlet]

🤷‍♂️ doesnt seem like super bad in my books

[grizzled patrol]

I Love trying to pull rooms Just to do a silent shot

[topaz anvil]

Not particularly hard to do accidentally

[hasty crane]

I am looking to speedrun R8E2 glitched, I watched eva's proof of concept on speedrun .com and his video that explains the OOB movment
is there any documentation that explains where to place the in bounds mines for orientation?
Eva describes using a backup mine due to enemy spawns but I don't know where all the ideal spots are

[tardy ingot]

weve slightly changed some of the spots, but most of them are very simple (we changed stuff due to the route getting cut down a bit (making it faster and easier)

from kennys pov you can see some of the mines (I linked it in my run)

[hasty crane]

when you say you changed the route
do you mean the OOB route or the in bounds route

[tardy ingot]

OOB

we cut above the rock early on and cut out a run around in the middle part (jumping over a part where the door is to B in 496 instead of going over the door leading to term room)

[hasty crane]

ok, thank you
I appreciate the info!

[burnt inlet]

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[azure narwhal]

is environment damage ONLY locks?

[ocean spindle]

doors

just doors i think work weirdly with dmg

[azure narwhal]

shouldnt bat like two shot doors then

[ocean spindle]

from what i understand therees 2 damages u do on doors, low damage and big damage, therees pre-defined uhh numbers on those and u cana just like go so far

[glad sun]

5 shots

[ocean spindle]

i think bat always does full damage per full charge

[tardy ingot]

5 on small, 8 on big doors

[glad sun]

It actually nerfs you when you charge it

It takes more time

[ocean spindle]

oh regardless of charge u always do the biggest dmg

[tardy ingot]

low, mid and high

[azure narwhal]

cant hammer two shot doors? i think i saw it in a speedrun with two players insta killing a door with both swinging at it with a hammer

[ocean spindle]

it says on the wiki

teehee

[ocean spindle]

up to a certain charge yes

[tardy ingot]

Full charge. 2 shot small, 3 shot big

[azure narwhal]

ooh really? thats crazy

[ocean spindle]

[[Doors#Melee]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Doors#Melee

[ocean spindle]

i love this bot

sometimes

[azure narwhal]

oooh 5 being the damage cap,, i thought this was like the minimal hits needed at first

[tardy ingot]

like 90+% chance that was including me

So yea

[supple gust]

[[Dauda#Thisplaceisbig]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Dauda#Thisplaceisbig

[tardy ingot]

5 hits for small door
8 for big

[azure narwhal]

i think i it was a giant kill speedrun or something?

[supple gust]

[[Woods#MassiveWang]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Woods#MassiveWang

[tardy ingot]

Doors have a specific rounding system

[glad sun]

Breaking open doors is funny. Except when they are needed

[ocean spindle]

[[Dauda#Voicelines]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Dauda#Voicelines