gtfo-related-questions

[frail heart]

it means they wont path that way

[fluid bobcat]

ok we definitely dont do that becuz that back guy holds back a few enemies

not many, but they are coming from two directions

yeaaa we actually have that bottom D door open, oops

[grizzled patrol]

2nd code zone first room is quite interesting to hold. from personal expirience all tanks come preaty fast and seperate over there

[frail heart]

they dont really get stuck much there yeah

i think its quite overrated for 4man tho

outside bulkhead with spawn block is just better

[errant dome]

the reason they get stuck is because it sometimes takes a while for them 2 get game updates (when they first spawn they dont target anyone, and when enemies dont have a target they stand still), you can go into area A of the zone which should make it more likely for tanks 2 get updates faster, but if you do that you need to be wary of scream cd or enemies will scream in respawn room and you'll have 2 deal with that

[grizzled patrol]

oh yeah for sure. you lose alot of pen value. its a hold if you are allergic to hel

[fluid bobcat]

cool, cool, i appreciate all the information. im not too familiar with the specifics of the game, how far does reactor push back spawns?

[fluid bobcat]

we have a hel rifle and 2 hel guns, soooo

lol

[errant dome]

some reactors are slightly different i think but generally its how far the farthest player from reactor is + 2 rooms (also enemies can never spawn in reactor itself)

[safe cradle]

#gtfo-related-questions message

I think I can really do "from:tru INSERTGAMENOTION" and I'm gonna get at minimum 1 result

[heady moat]

[[Enemy Spawning#Reactors]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Enemy_Spawning#Reactors

[low radish]

the reactor room acts as a player you could say

so they spawn 2 rooms away from reactor too

[grizzled patrol]

the forbidden wording

[low radish]

huh?

[grizzled patrol]

[tardy ingot]

reactor spawns are just fucked

[tardy ingot]

. kinda this
but theres set spawns in reactor sometimes

[low radish]

like in R4E1 right

[fluid bobcat]

ok becuz when we do hold outside bulkhead, no enemies spawn in the zone where 2nd code is, i just worry that running up to agro tanks will wake respawn room

[low radish]

they kind of do have set spawns there

[fluid bobcat]

yeah we do pretty well with the flyers

[low radish]

i hate flyers

Veruta sadly cannot kill them with their flying around 😔

[grizzled patrol]

when Hel rifle is asleep

[topaz anvil]

I'm honestly convinced they have a 1 time use immortality ability

[low radish]

My duo uses it, he is better at aiming

i just blast left an right

[low radish]

I once shot one with high cal like 3 times and it somehow didn't die

R6D2 flyers are special

[fluid bobcat]

ill take this information back to my team, thanks all! 😁 🫡

[low radish]

you're on R8E2 right

[fluid bobcat]

yup, only one of us has a clear out of 7 of us

i dont count @polar gate lmao

[safe cradle]

Now that you say it I know their mouth is weakpoint, I dont know if it gets more exposed when they are about to shoot

[low radish]

isn't their blob on the back a weakspot too

like the shining one

[low radish]

ah, goodluck!

[safe cradle]

But it's perhaps just placebo from that being when they dont move

[topaz anvil]

ping probably

[grizzled patrol]

7? 8 man R8E2?

[fluid bobcat]

Bet

[low radish]

i think it may shine like shooters and hybrids

when they're about to shoot

can't confirm for sure though

[fluid bobcat]

r8e2/tartarus hybrid when??

[low radish]

Shadow hybrids

[fluid bobcat]

giant nightmare shadow hybrids

[grizzled patrol]

yeah its just a animation, not like big meatballs

[low radish]

Shadow tanks

[prime musk]

no, they just take back dmg like all enemies

[low radish]

Good to know, i had no idea if it's a weakspot or what it is

[hasty crane]

Does shooting a tank make it agro you?
What is tank agro based on because my team has trouble taking care of them quickly if they start turning constantly

[minor fractal]

Doing any damage, including damage reduced by armor, can force it to switch

Also having LoS can make it switch

[prime musk]

(but breaking los makes it untarget from you if it has los to other player, usually, meaning if you aggro grab and hide your team only gets a short moment to utilise it being aggrod on you)

[minor fractal]

Generally you want your baiter to peak first, and then stay in LoS while your damage dealer enters LoS and deals damage.

[shy tangle]

To everyone who said hel auto for r2e1, thank you! We didn't quite get to surge in the bad part but it made the fog and normal alarms trivial compared to without a sentry

[grizzled patrol]

With the Shotgun sentry you would have cleared everything Trust trust

[burnt inlet]

fax

[burnt inlet]

run 3 shotgun sentries and a bot on bio, shreds absolutely everything

[grizzled patrol]

They are a Duo

[tardy ingot]

[burnt inlet]

switch scatter for shotgun sentry

do the same thing

shotgun sentry has higher dmg and doesnt need someone to shoot constantly

most people dont know it can be found at the bottom of the specials list

[wild flare]

shotgun sentry on this lvl? idk if it is good, only for 3rd and MAYBE for last surge

[grizzled patrol]

Lies. Dont listen to him

[burnt inlet]

Dark plays with 3 bots so he went thru the game diff and could use other strats

[safe cradle]

I want to talk about something

[grizzled patrol]

Go ahead

[safe cradle]

A couple of days ago I installed Accurate Crosshair

[topaz anvil]

Shut

[grizzled patrol]

[safe cradle]

I was under the impression that it fixed how the crosshair behaves and makes the reticle actually be where it should

[hollow frost]

what does it do instead?

[grizzled patrol]

No, it fixes the spread display

[safe cradle]

This is true, however it also shows something that, for the lack of a better word, I'll call "nipple reticle" to show me a thighter inner circle for the first shot

[grizzled patrol]

Yeah that is the spread for the First shot accuracy

[safe cradle]

I kinda struggle to describe that as QoL, to be honest

I'm shit at HEL Revolver so it doesn't change that

But I'm perhaps not supposed to have a pinpoint crosshair

[sturdy glen]

you can turn the first shot accuracy indicator off

[safe cradle]

can you? thanks

[topaz anvil]

Solution is to just have a weapon with nuts hipfire accuracy

[sturdy glen]

the vanilla reticle color is actually really hard to see when you do that funnily enough

[burnt inlet]

wait when we ADS we arent actually looking at where we are firing?

[safe cradle]

ah fug adjusting it wants r2modman or whatever, trying to edit the DLL with notepad++ is impossible

[grizzled patrol]

I mean, you dont really need it to know when it Has reset since in Vanilla the Bloom going away indicates that

[grizzled patrol]

You are supposed to get a json File in the configs folder iirc

[safe cradle]

Thanks, changed it to "match"

or is it none?

whatever I'll try and change it

Thanks anyway guys

[hoary mason]

Lmao

[safe cradle]

How nice of you to laugh at that

[open rover]

Ok so am I missing something? I just checked the wiki to look at all the cosmetics - there are currently 100 obtainable items and only 83 missions. So that means we can't get all 100?

[frail heart]

yep

you just miss out on some

[open rover]

Shiiiit

[safe cradle]

Short answer is not without a mod, because 1- Some were time-limited (Tigris Mask for the year of the Tiger) 2- Something something OG R6 Something.

[burnt inlet]

nope, some were timed items, i think some were on old rundowns

[safe cradle]

I dont know if Tigris is now in the loot pool to be honest

but still there's just some you're never going to get

[grizzled patrol]

@ 10C please add the Cut cosmetics. They are so fire 😭

[safe cradle]

There's also the R4 release loot bug, and R5 release loot bug

"Reset Request" whatever

[grizzled patrol]

Loot Bug?

Rock and Stone!

[safe cradle]

When Alt R4 was released they fucked up

and took like 3 days to fix it, but people who finished maps before that time were softlocked from getting the drops for said maps

[ocean spindle]

not only some cosmetics were time limited there's also more in the pool that levels available

i think u miss 3 4 or something

[safe cradle]

Then they fucked up AGAIN for Alt R5 but took much less than 3 days to fix

[sick mauve]

perhaps if there was a monthly battle pass subscription for a gacha roll chance to get the missing cosmetics on completing a level ppl would be really into that

[open rover]

Total - 128 cosmetics.
10 event-exclusive cosmetics.
1 early access-exclusive cosmetic.
12 (formerly 15) rundown completion rewards.
8 obtainable, 4 unobtainable (from Rundown 6.0), 3 are now in the random unlock pool
2 guaranteed automatic unlocks ('overalls' pallette and 'KDS Slim Survivalist' backpack).
103 random mission completion rewards.
100 if we exclude the random free helmet, torso, and legs granted to new players - leaving 100 opportunities to earn cosmetics from mission completion.

[ocean spindle]

how about i eat ur face

[ocean spindle]

ok more than i thought but yes

[safe cradle]

They should just put a trigger that as soon as you get Sum Total you get all cosmetics in the game

[ocean spindle]

miss out onnn 17 then

or well 15 idk if the automatic ones count

[open rover]

Yeah so even if there are ones you specifically want that are obtainable there is no guarantee you will ever get it

[tardy ingot]

Imagine not having all

[ocean spindle]

how about i eat ur fridge huh how about that

[open rover]

Hax?

[ocean spindle]

mods or completing the game since cosmetics started

[tardy ingot]

i dont use mods (outside of modded rundowns or cconsole for testing)

[frail heart]

Eva's official label (even in the streamathon) shows why he has them all

[open rover]

Well now my day has been ruined, I at least thought I could get all the ones that are in the game currently

[tardy ingot]

I will
Kill you

in minecraft

[ocean spindle]

u can check which ones u have left when u finish the game and u will probably not want them

that's how it usually goes

[safe cradle]

You can just install that mod when you finish all Rundowns and all Sectors

[open rover]

You are probably right - but then again know my luck

And yeah if I don't get the ones I want I will have to use the mod

[heady moat]

assuming I didn't miscount them at some point, that is 😅

[open rover]

I'm sure you didn't - cos once it's on the wiki we all know it's the truth

[soft crater]

Iirc

Outside of The reasons Eva has all of them

You only miss 2 pieces? Assuming you played during the limited times/Ogr6/all completion rewards

At least to my recollection. That's all I'm missing.

[lone mortar]

solace hi

[fathom ice]

@burnt inlet what's the rundown u were playing

[burnt inlet]

modded rundown

its a funni mod

[fathom ice]

no shot

[burnt inlet]

"projekt Thermonuclear"

made by frostty

[fathom ice]

oh

my god

it's impossible

[burnt inlet]

huh?

[fathom ice]

trust

[burnt inlet]

ik one of the rundowns are like

how should i say this

[fathom ice]

just play solo trials

or singulate

[burnt inlet]

yea thats what im doing

yoki

[knotty relic]

Bro instantly got into the Frostty Lore?

Did you record and send to him?

[burnt inlet]

[knotty relic]

It’s the pat on the back he deserves.

🤌

[burnt inlet]

i like the level icl

[knotty relic]

He’ll appreciate that lol

Buddy needs the role “Official GTFO Lore Master” for his services to the fame and company.

[burnt inlet]

yep

ima try to complete the yoki rundown

[ocean spindle]

do any levels have randomized resources?

[prime musk]

my rudimentary understanding of level gen and data blocks would say no

apart from the "oh a 5use instead of a 4use and 2use" kinda rng

[ocean spindle]

i guess more a 6 use right

[knotty relic]

Yoki?

[burnt inlet]

It’s a modded rundown (yokai is its actual name I believe)

[knotty relic]

Ah.

[burnt inlet]

Oh wait mb didn’t see that we chatted about it earlier lol

[ocean spindle]

the snatcher dimension bug is unfixable isnt it

cuz if u leave and rejoin u just get tp there again

[tiny wyvern]

No clue

I did list it in there as a last ditch effort

In case it does

The normal spagetti dimension can be fixed by rejoining

not sure if the black box one will be though

[sick mauve]

both are fixed with my snatcherbugfix

[wet bear]

In vanilla none

[ocean spindle]

thank uu

[long nimbus]

How do bioscan boosters affect full team scans? Like, a large S scan takes 100 seconds but if one player has 15% bioscan speed, is that reduced to 85 seconds or ~96ish?

[floral acorn]

85

[long nimbus]

Oh damn, does the effect get reduced if multiple people have the booster? I've got 50% bioscan available right now, if i had another player with the same boosters, the alarms wouldnt instantly end?

*scans instantly finish

[tiny wyvern]

Probably
Who knows
...I would not want to know if the game breaks before that happens tho

tru may know

[floral acorn]

either that or u apply the 50 and another player reduces the remaining 50 by half so you'll end up 25

.. not sure.

[tardy ingot]

each scan in the game (many sharing their stats) has a specific value coded to it for how fast it goes depending on amount of players

The scan time is 1/the value

say the small red scan
1 person on it ends up being 3,333 seconds
2 people = 2,5
3 and 4 stay at 2,5

teamscans can either be completely flat. Or scale (which obviously only matters if you are running solo/duo/trio/full team)

In the case of 4 players on a big S, the value is increased by 1,15x for 15% bioscan speed. Depending on the value that then scales down

since you are dividing by a number thats increasing, you wont ever get 0

[long nimbus]

so a total of 100% bioscan booster would Halve the time required

[tardy ingot]

basically

[tiny wyvern]

I wonder if the rounding thing would come into play and just make it zero if you divide it far enough

[tardy ingot]

it would be instant

but not 0

youd touch and 1 frame later its done

[wet bear]

Although scans still have minimum long and short time so you can't force via boosters to have scan going for 1 billion years by having very negative booster and same goes for positive value iirc, better stack resistance so you can avoid damage

[craggy pier]

https://tenor.com/view/tralalero-tralala-gif-3662953298865045507

[long nimbus]

The maximum you can get without cheating is 70% per player, 280% total or a 380% rate. Which is nuts, but not instant. (Will certainly feel that way when the 100 second scan takes 30 seconds)

[cinder notch]

can/will sniper turrets kill a scout in one hit?

[civic wave]

regular scouts yea

[cinder notch]

w-what do you mean..."regular"

im scared papa

[ocean spindle]

:3

[ocean spindle]

it is not a very cool strat tho, i mean works but if u can have a sniper sentry u can have any other gun that can do it too

like ur melee for example

[burnt inlet]

🙃

[cinder notch]

yeah i need to practice getting melee kills on scouts more reliably. i think spear may be easier for me than sledge for getting that head hitbox

[burnt inlet]

theres scouts that uhm, i wont spoil too much but theyre funni

[burnt inlet]

yes

[ocean spindle]

yes but at a cost

[burnt inlet]

but

dont pick spear

unironically

learn hammer

[ocean spindle]

also if u need to use a gun- there is many many guns that can oneshot a scout

[cinder notch]

i have a bout a 50% success rate hammering them for some reason. read all the reddit threads and watched a billion YTs

[burnt inlet]

and many that can two tap

[burnt inlet]

practice makes perfect

[cinder notch]

speaking of which, the choke mod shotgun (dont judge me i love it) does 30 damage and a scout has 42 health whilst taking double dmg in the back and 3x head, 6x occiput. so it should be able to reliably one shot eh?

[ocean spindle]

yes

from the back, head and occiput

altho just usually u just go for the head

[uneven kiln]

If you want to melee a scout with sledge don’t do it while it’s going up/down stairs and aim higher than you think, like the circle should be just above the scout’s cranium

[ocean spindle]

c r a n i u m

💀

[burnt inlet]

unless youre risky and like to run into them

also you can jump before hitting, idk if its better but facing the front i like to do it

[uneven kiln]

I did have a run once on R6D3 where I ran all melee damage boosters and face stabbed every scout

[cinder notch]

my crew 1-2shot every level in rundown 1-2, was pretty proud, until r2d2 which is fucking us, i think getting better at scout meleeing will save us a lot of ammo

[uneven kiln]

That was immensely fun

[ocean spindle]

its better, it helps with the arc of it

[ocean spindle]

me when d2 just scales on difficulty- tbh the strat there is skipping it kmskd

[burnt inlet]

R2E1?

[cinder notch]

cant get to r2e1 yet, locked behind r2d2

[uneven kiln]

R2D2 and R2E1 are THE chokepoint levels newer teams get hardstuck on

[civic wave]

should be noted that you'd also need to add the weapon's precision multiplier, so 3x2x1 for choke mod because lol the precision multiplier for the gun is 1 - but a gun will never deal lower than its base bodyshot damag

[burnt inlet]

fuck R2D1 btw

[minor fractal]

This may also be a recovery issue

You can wake every scout and be fine

but you need to not die on a bad room pull

[cinder notch]

we got 8/10 done on r2d2 just ran out of ammo. i know we can do it after some more practice, been doing r3 for now

[low radish]

Yeah the difficulty jump from D2 to E1 is insane

[cinder notch]

we always run out of stuff. but also i made a bad call and had us away from the reactor on round 7 code input, oof

[uneven kiln]

There’s a good reason on new wiki I put out an advisory warning that it’s OK to skip E1 especially and come back if it’s a team’s first E tier

[cinder notch]

believe it or not we did one dry run no boosters, came back boosted and rekt it. maybe got our confidence up too high r2d2 is humbling us

[low radish]

I mean you can do that with any level really but still

[uneven kiln]

I still gotta convince a group externally to get back into it because they drove themselves into the ground on D2 and E1

[low radish]

No need to stress out a level someone can't beat

[uneven kiln]

yeah

[low radish]

Ironic that i'm saying that afer 50 tries of R4E1 duo

for a month

[cinder notch]

with all the rundowns available 24/7 now its nice to be able to jsut go do somethign else

[burnt inlet]

i ahte that level, i played it with bots, maybe you did in fact get your confidence up too high lol, no biggie though just get better honestly

[burnt inlet]

i would offer help but id prolly make that 200 tries

[uneven kiln]

I’ve only attempted that solo with no boosters and I’ve never shut off the error

[low radish]

we did it today actually

the most cursed way possible

[burnt inlet]

oh yea you posted in media right?

[low radish]

it's impossible solo

[burnt inlet]

did you doorbug?

[low radish]

you would need Insane skills

[low radish]

nope

[burnt inlet]

good lol

[low radish]

We killed all of the mothers in secondary

went with machinegun

[burnt inlet]

isnt there one guy thats doing all solo (zed?)

[low radish]

code searched together

[burnt inlet]

oh yea heard about this

[low radish]

Not all levels are possible

R4E1 is one of them

[burnt inlet]

yea ik

[low radish]

you would need insane stats on top of crazy plays

[prime musk]

it's NOT me

[burnt inlet]

lol mb

[uneven kiln]

I’ve seen some R4E1 solo clears, the closest I ever got was the final large sustain surge but the RNG associated with ammo, low visibility, and high danger associated with needing to completely clear each alarm room has never been fruitful for me

[low radish]

Machinegun my beloved

[burnt inlet]

lol

[burnt inlet]

i meant completely solo

[prime musk]

eventually i might but if i were to do so

1. i'd seed the E tiers because i suck
2. i'd doorbug r4e1 sec
3. everything would be kiting anyways

[low radish]

I definietly want to try and solo R2E1 somneday

[civic wave]

hani did do r4e1 solo (on a seeded run) with boosters and no exploits

[low radish]

I love that level so much

[low radish]

oh so it is possible after all

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-media message i swear its u (bruh got wrong message linked kms)

[uneven kiln]

the only R2E1 solo clear ive seen is blablablaftw’s long kiting extravaganza of it

Incredibly impressive but also extreme amounts of low visibility long kiting lol

All on min health

[civic wave]

most solos are boring because it's either you admit you can't hold something and let yourself die for it

or you start kiting to stabilise

so either you eat shit and lose an hour of your time

or you kite and spend an extra hour of your time

[prime musk]

i do a decent amount of soloing but im not going to do everything

[burnt inlet]

aight

[low radish]

Yeah it is like that

It's way ore fun to duo really

Especially if your duo likes to do stupid stuff, it's so funny with what dumb stuff me and Frenchman come come up

I do have to say that foe me the game is way more fun duo than 4-man or trio

I don't think i played in a pub in like 2 months

[civic wave]

gtfo is a duo game discourse revival let's go

[uneven kiln]

R5E1 duo let’s do it

[low radish]

I never said that, it just feels more fun for me that way

But it's still made for 4 people

[civic wave]

i'm joking around

[low radish]

Oh, my bad then

[civic wave]

there's been some funny discourse around it in the past

nah nah it's fine

[low radish]

actually we tried it and someone joined during a surge

[civic wave]

i'm all over the place and it's hard to tell sometimes

[low radish]

Ah yes GTFO is a very duo game

Internet

Work

[burnt inlet]

Silly

[civic wave]

there is nothing the game asks you to do that requires more than 2 players

if you are mechanically competent

[low radish]

I mean you're not wrong

[burnt inlet]

Brazil Strat?

[prime musk]

the game doesn't ask you to brazil skip

[low radish]

But still the game is balanced around 4 people even if you can do all of duo

or solo

[burnt inlet]

Then why did YouTube recommend it to me?

[prime musk]

even then i think brazil skip duo is probably theoretically doable

[low radish]

"prisoners can you please Brazil skip"

[burnt inlet]

Bruh

[low radish]

I mean I definietly will drag Frenchman into it

We plan to do everything the most cursed way we can

R5D2 killing 3 tanks incoming

[prime musk]

killing the 3 tanks is normal

[low radish]

R5D1 cursed log

[hard nexus]

5c2pe no cells in

[low radish]

I never saw anyone do that

[low radish]

?

[hard nexus]

its pretty uncomfortable

[low radish]

yeah but what do you mean

[uneven kiln]

scatter of gun

[low radish]

I've been on R5C2 only once

[hard nexus]

you are speaking of cursed runs

now do it without putting any cells in

[burnt inlet]

R2D1 no fog repellers

[low radish]

I am pretty sure Frenchman would shoot himself on the spot if i told him about that

[low radish]

how do you even do that?

[burnt inlet]

I would too

[hard nexus]

just do it lool 4 head

overload scan provide vision

[frail heart]

only one person done it legit

clustersuster

[shy tangle]

In R2E1, is it unlikely that zone 602 cell spawns in A? It happened in our last attempt and it felt a bit bad to double back after pinging for it

[uneven kiln]

the others, they used boosters i take it

[low radish]

I think it's a very low chance

[uneven kiln]

It can spawn anywhere in A-K

[low radish]

if i remember correctly

Wait no which cell is that again

[uneven kiln]

I’ve had 602 cell spawn in every zone across testing

Had it in A a couple times which is nice but certainly not norm

[frail heart]

no they used cheese like door bug and capping stuck babies and shit

[uneven kiln]

what’s doorbug, I knew about capping stuck babies

[frail heart]

door bug breaks enemy pathing so they cant path through a broken door

[low radish]

When a door is about to close you can destroy it

[burnt inlet]

You can break doors and make the enemies believe they’re closed

[low radish]

enemies can't go through it but you can

[prime musk]

it can spawn pretty much everywhere
the cell makes a sound (im sure you have noticed) whose strength doesn't care about walls or doors, only distance. you can use that to quickly check all the spawn locations before term when on your way there

[uneven kiln]

And this is on any expedition?

[low radish]

yes

[hard nexus]

just open it

[frail heart]

any door can have it done

and its very easy to do

[shy tangle]

Alright thanks, we're considering trying to leave the turbine near the start to save hand space so I wanted to know what the odds are that'll punish us

[frail heart]

but its classed as cheating

basically

[burnt inlet]

Any breakable door*?

[frail heart]

yeah

[low radish]

Yeah it absolutely is

[uneven kiln]

You can carry turbine through the fog in A by doing a little S shape to check if it’s in A for certain, and leave it at the far end of A right before B begins, shouldn’t be too much a burden if A is pulled beforehand

There’s… like 3 cell locations I know of in 602A

[errant dome]

erm askhually, you cant do it on security doors 🤓

[uneven kiln]

Wow, yeah I’ve never exploited this. I hope there’s a fix for it

[low radish]

you also cannot do it on the doors that are part of the map 🤓

[shy tangle]

Sounds like something I'll pick up on only with more experience then

[low radish]

I don't think there is

[hard nexus]

just open the door

[frail heart]

theres a mod

[prime musk]

the strat for consistent clearing of r2e1 error duo
is to carry cell and baby from start, and chug med for the alarm
infection sucks but if you play your resources right you can overheal for the difficult parts and get some disinfect in last alarm zone

taking turbine gives you no infection at the cost of being cell rng dependent

[low radish]

When i did it we just looted everything and took the turbine it was so beautiful

and cursed

12 strikers coming our way? let me just grab this one use ammo

But for duo we would grab turbine, pull a room while the other person defends, repeat untill zone clear and the take cell and baby

do the surge, ditch turbine

and go on

worked for us

[uneven kiln]

just found it 🧀

thank you

Here's a question I have for anyone: Do you personally consider R5B1 PE harder than R5C1 Sec

This can be either from normal route/clearing to speedrunning

[low radish]

what the hell was R5B1

i forgot i haven't been there for so long

Oh it's the charger hell

[uneven kiln]

yep that's the level in a nutshell

[low radish]

I'd say R5C1 secondary is better

I remember having not a big issue doing it

The shadow giant spawning on my face in one of the biggest rooms in the expedition was 💀

But yeah a 10 code uplink with shadows is not that bad from my expirience

just take thermal or bio

[uneven kiln]

I'm inclined to agree for the same reason. Though I do have to say, R5C1 Sec has one of the messiest entrances and exits to any alt sector ive ever seen, especially since both phases of that error can spawn from any direction, even breaking down doors you would really rather have intact for funneling, and then you either need to pull the cocoon zone to get out or time a stealth interval for the team, or you wipe

[low radish]

I mean for me it was just running like our lives depended on it after secondary

hoping the mom spawns in a side room and the alarm won't wake her up

the biggest issue was the 23785612894179 hybrids and giants following you and how you not die while running

[uneven kiln]

did you sneak back through the cocoon zones or just full send it and deal with it later

oh

[low radish]

As i said i had a shadow giant spawn on me so that was fun

Got meele'd to death in a second

[low radish]

yeah just run and then kill the bajilion hybrids

But in general i like terminal uplinks

Love it when i type TERMINAL_ULINK

and wonder why the code is incorrect

[wild flare]

uplinks are not bad if you do not mess up codes

[low radish]

Yeah that's what i mean

Me and my duo still meme when i wrote "TERMINAL_UPLINK TERMINAL_UPLINK LOSE" 3 times and had no idea why it wasn't working

[wild flare]

yeah, that situation with first letter happens qute often, if you are too quick xd

[low radish]

I was doing R4E1 today and in the charger zone in secondary i wrote the command wrong

🥹 it was so horrible

[long nimbus]

you can use the TAB key to autocomplete most of it.

[low radish]

Yeah

but i am so used to writing the full command that i forget about it

when i'm under pressure

[wild flare]

if you missed first letter it will not work

[long nimbus]

o.o.f

[low radish]

I didn't write the "READ" command

[long nimbus]

if you missed the first letter you probably only typed 2-3

[low radish]

I wrote the name of the log

[long nimbus]

oof

[low radish]

That was indeed an oof

I also made a spelling mistake there and there sometimes

But we still did it

[burnt inlet]

Press up arrow then backspace 4 times

[low radish]

I know

that's what i did

[burnt inlet]

Oh mb

[low radish]

My keyboard also has an issue with the letter "T"

as in it sometimes won't input

So that's fun, made me write "ERMINAL" a few times

[burnt inlet]

😭

[burnt inlet]

R4B1 anything special i need to run as tool?

[prime musk]

it's standard tools, bio sentry mines

[fathom ice]

i swear to god

[prime musk]

can decide between 2nd sentry and foam

[fathom ice]

i do not remember r4 b tiers

[prime musk]

the r4 b tiers are levels that exist

[fathom ice]

maybe it's a solo angle

to rember

oh wait

one of them is cooked isn't it

[prime musk]

b1 is fine

[fathom ice]

with like error and gen cluster

[burnt inlet]

R4A3 was the funni layout

[prime musk]

b2 is error with gen cluster

[fathom ice]

ye that one

is jukt

[prime musk]

b3 is different error iirc

[burnt inlet]

bruh not the errors

im cooked

[prime musk]

nah wait b3 isn't error

[fathom ice]

which one has reactor in sec

[prime musk]

b1

[fathom ice]

okay i kinda rember that one

[prime musk]

b3 is kinda the most forgettable

[burnt inlet]

mfw the first box i open has 5 use disinfect ;-;

[burnt inlet]

is it normal for me to have 2 min left on down time for the reactor?

[prime musk]

?

when getting code

[burnt inlet]

yea

code 5

[prime musk]

yeah the code timers are kinda generous in r4b1

[burnt inlet]

code 3 i mean

[prime musk]

especially the last one

[burnt inlet]

good to know

is there a set amount of waves that spawn per verify?

[long nimbus]

reactor waves are set

[burnt inlet]

W's speed is key

also 2.5 mins left on code 4 lol

[low radish]

Moth i wonder what will you do on R4E1 secondary reactor

you play with bots right

[burnt inlet]

have played with people

[uneven kiln]

how do you even get bots past the error without them causing death

[burnt inlet]

male and some guys

[uneven kiln]

Assuming no kick rejoin

[low radish]

you definietly played with me and frenchman

[low radish]

solo the tank

probably

[uneven kiln]

Well here’s the issue with that

Bots dont pick up the cells

[tiny wyvern]

Nah you just have to command them to

[uneven kiln]

You minimum will need like 2 more tanks than normal

[low radish]

won;t they drop them because of error

[uneven kiln]

they don’t pick up the cells even if you place them on the ground

[low radish]

and in combat

[uneven kiln]

yep

[tiny wyvern]

Oh yeah

I didn't see the error sry

[low radish]

No worries

[uneven kiln]

I would love if I didn’t have to tread through Z455-457 3 times before doing sustain surge lol

[low radish]

Yeah i'd say like 6-7 tanks

You can just spawncap the tank with it

Worked for me everytime

so no need to grab more res at least if you're high on them (except the stuff you need for alarm)

[uneven kiln]

There really isn’t a ton of res in the error either that the bots won’t waste if you don’t use it on yourself right then

It’s a struggle

[burnt inlet]

class 3 cluster time

[uneven kiln]

I could do 1 trip admittedly but juggling 2 cells by yourself between tank intervals to then get into a good enough position so the bots don’t all down immediately is yikes

[low radish]

I'd say save tripmine for blood door

If you will even get there

[uneven kiln]

I agree

I would love to see somebody shut off the R4E1 error with 3 bots without kicking them at any point in vanilla

(without boosters)

[low radish]

I'd prefer to bang my head against a wall

[uneven kiln]

relatable

[low radish]

Actually do you play only with bots

I haven't played with them in a long time

[burnt inlet]

im stupid

[frail heart]

i mean you can do that without bots

[low radish]

Last time i did Bishop went through a c-foamed and mined door during a surge alarm

[uneven kiln]

Pretty much, yes

[burnt inlet]

did wrong alarm

[low radish]

Such a sight to witness

[burnt inlet]

runs dead lol

[low radish]

If you want to we could play together someday, you wouldn't have to suffer with only bots

[prime musk]

nah

grab res

from that zone

then repeat wave

it's fine

[uneven kiln]

Oh yeah, if I did this true solo, I probably could have shut off the error if my aim were on point shooting through the fog, but I’d probably die to scream door in Main

[burnt inlet]

... died

fuck im trash lol

[uneven kiln]

I basically don’t use boosters at all if I can help it because I’ve been saving them for doing R8D1 with no med no disinf which I haven’t had a team for

[burnt inlet]

was like 2 strikers away from surviving wave 1 though

[uneven kiln]

I have tons of infect resist and regen cap boosters that I refuse to use

[low radish]

wait what level are you on

[burnt inlet]

R3B1

[uneven kiln]

That sounds nice, I’d be down sometime

[burnt inlet]

im doing all the objectives

i accidentally sent dauda on a mission too lol

[civic wave]

i've done it but didn't upload the vid, seeing if i can find it now

[low radish]

I'll send you a friend req, let me know when you're free

[uneven kiln]

That’s awesome, I don’t doubt that it’s possible because it’s not a strictly impossible scenario but man is it painful being in that error slogging those cells for that much longer than was ever intended

[fathom ice]

ngl that is prob free

[burnt inlet]

so dissapointed that i didnt query it 😔

[low radish]

It's also bad if you get a BBC in front of the generator

I had that happen a few times

[burnt inlet]

I think I just like saw a place I couldn’t go and went to other scan door

Well I know 100% that’s beatable

[civic wave]

found the vid, i'll crop it and post it for you now

[uneven kiln]

Not when all of the ammo past first alarm is in the furthest side room of Z456

(This has been my reality my past 4 attempts)

[fathom ice]

it

doesn't matter really

u just kill extra tank

[uneven kiln]

Yeah… that’s precisely the problem, I really don’t want that early extra tank when the bots are so bad with their ammo and I end up completely running out of ammo on 2nd sustain alarm if I don’t find that ammo in 456

Not just me but bots too, run out about 50-75% through sustain

[fathom ice]

u have

like 10 uses of ammo

in 2 zones

i really don't see extra tank making diff

[uneven kiln]

Yeah, guess I’m just fishing for a seed where I don’t need the extra tank that early, had an attempt with the ammo in the alarm room and that went amazing

I’d much rather have an extra tank in 457

[fathom ice]

do you know about doors

vs tanks

[uneven kiln]

Yeah. I also know about bots randomly deciding to be on the side of the door with enemies when they feel a bit fruity

[fathom ice]

just go behind a door beforehand

and like spend 10 extra seconds waiting for tank

[uneven kiln]

Guess I can try that out. It’s mostly the bot with bio that does it

[fathom ice]

cuz he's bioing

[burnt inlet]

All E tier I’ll prolly do with people unless it’s easy, remember that I’ve only beaten two D tiers so far lul

[civic wave]

@uneven kiln it'll take a long while for this video to render but once it's uploaded i'll drop you the link

[surreal wraith]

do hel weapons' penetration work on tank/mother postules?

[minor fractal]

It works like other limbs in that you can only hit individual enemies once per shot.

So you will only deal damage to the first hitbox

[sick mauve]

they don’t pierce armor iirc

or am i mistaken?

[minor fractal]

Not sure what this means

You can hit enemies behind a boss through armor.

[sick mauve]

so if i shoot the front of a tank, it will hit tumors

[minor fractal]

No, your first hit is on armor and does damage to armor

[sick mauve]

so pierce doesn’t penetrate armor then

[minor fractal]

.

[sick mauve]

i don’t understand

[minor fractal]

When you shoot a pen gun at an enemy, the damage dealt to that enemy is done to the first hitbox you hit but none of the other hitboxes on that individual enemy.

[native sun]

When firing a piercing shot you damage whatever part of the enemy you hit first, and only that part. So:

• Pierce penetrates armor in that you can hit the armor of an enemy and then pierce another enemy behind the first enemy.
• Pierce does not penetrate armor in that if you hit the armor of an enemy where there is a tumor behind that bit of armor you will damage the armor and not the tumor.

[sick mauve]

okay sorry. thank you

i was under the impression you could pen multiple tumors. but that’s not the case then huh

[minor fractal]

Yeah, you can only hit one tumor per bullet.

[shy tangle]

Our last R2E1 attempt just now had literally 3-4 bigs in every shadow realm room (nearest ammo pack was area I)
We got to the first surge alarm in the bad part in a different run though so I'm happy about that

[low radish]

I'd say you can do R8E1 with bots. It's like a C-tier difficulty

[burnt inlet]

🥸

Also is there any variation in the zones I need to take for R4B1 reactor?

[flat oar]

you mean holding spot?

[burnt inlet]

No like for terms

Cuz last time I did a class 3 scan which led to the wrong room

Or rather one which didn’t have my term

And I needed to do a diff class 3

[flat oar]

you need to query key

there's 2 alarm doors and you need 1

[burnt inlet]

Code 4 specifically

[burnt inlet]

Yea can the terminal spawn in either of those?

[flat oar]

its just key zone not password zone

[burnt inlet]

Oh

[flat oar]

and it have terminal like normal

[burnt inlet]

Fuck did I think the terminal was in then lol

Code 4 specifically

Or maybe it was code 5

Wonder if last term is in the key zone

[flat oar]

code 5 is in another secdoor in reactor room require key

[burnt inlet]

👍

Well

I’ll just play it today or tmrw and figure it out

Though I do believe that reactor should be the first reactor icl

The time is so lenient

Would you pick foam instead of sentry for

[flat oar]

PE? in r4b1?

[burnt inlet]

I think it’s that one

Idk if it got overload

Thought it did

[flat oar]

r4b1 not have overload

[burnt inlet]

👍

Is foam used outside of the reactor?

[flat oar]

for me 2 sentries 1 mine better than 1 foam

[burnt inlet]

Aight

That’s what I thought cuz I really didn’t use the foam that much and I’d rather have another sentry if I repeat what happened last time

[flat oar]

c-foam can use 2 alarms in main but it not that difference

[burnt inlet]

And one in secondary

Well Ty I do believe if I didn’t make that mistake I’d beat it

[flat oar]

gl r4b1 still on easy map

[burnt inlet]

Yea wasn’t that hard

I just forgot to check term location

[tardy ingot]

no

you dont rly mine the last alarm in the level anyway

you just funnel with sentries

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[tardy ingot]

you can mine the 2 blood doors, the 1st alarm and the alarm in secondary

(which adds up to roughly 5 mines anyway)

[burnt inlet]

Yea I might do auto sentry and have me manage all of the tool refill, first for everything

[tardy ingot]

Eh

Dont need hel auto sentry

2 bursts

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[low radish]

How to do Brazil skip

I forgot

[flat oar]

not do room scan and go to cocoon zone

[low radish]

@neat glen

[flat oar]

it can

[low radish]

The command one?

[flat oar]

yes the room you need to put cell to enter

[low radish]

Oh so you can just start the scan but not finish it

[frail heart]

ye

[flat oar]

yes

[low radish]

Wouldn't the alarm be going on though

[frail heart]

so basically you are doing the entire level with pablo and a charger alarm

[low radish]

I don't think that's possible duo

Right

[frail heart]

no it probably wouldnt be

trio probably can be done

[low radish]

Aw shucks

I wanted to try it duo since I never heard the part that you have a charger alarm still on

I thought it's just Pablo that stays

[sturdy glen]

Pablo's the easy part lol

[ocean spindle]

at that point just melee it

is less risk

[low radish]

We wanted a reactor friend

Fully charge, run at it and jump to hit back of the head

You will get a hang of it

[burnt inlet]

Just need a babysitter (heard Eva is a good one)

[safe cradle]

Give Pablo a good handshake and look at him in the eyes, then ask him about a job

[low radish]

"Hey Pablo wanna defend the reactor for us"
"Dgshsh"
"Thank you"

[safe cradle]

He'll make you the CEO of Santonian in no time

[burnt inlet]

🫡

[low radish]

Yes

All hail Pablo

[burnt inlet]

07

[neat glen]

Yeah, and make sure you hit them at the occiput, and not the side of the head "cough"

[low radish]

COME ON IT WAS AN ACCIDENT

😭

You always look at my mistakes

Society

Grrr

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[low radish]

You never look at that time I killed a scoot with it's head In the wall

But when I miss you always remind me of it 😔

[burnt inlet]

I did that today

[low radish]

Society is cruel

[burnt inlet]

No wait yesterday

[low radish]

😔

[neat glen]

😂

[low radish]

That's it I'm with the sleepers now

Let me shoot you during the S scan again

[burnt inlet]

Can you clear out R2D2 for me?

Also what kind of eeper?

[low radish]

Sure I'll ask Frank to get everyone away

[low radish]

A shadow

Trust

I'm invisible

[burnt inlet]

Cuz we never see you outside your room🙃

[low radish]

I actually started to come out more in that regard

[burnt inlet]

W’s

[low radish]

Which is a nice improvement from me never going out my own will for like 4 years

Or 5, don't remember

[low radish]

W's indeee

Also do you still need help with R2D2

[burnt inlet]

I’ve skipped it for now

[low radish]

If you want to me and Frenchman could help you again

[burnt inlet]

And duoing within a week will be wonky cuz I’m on shitty internet

[neat glen]

Proceed 3 of us got shot by the sniper sentries like last time

[burnt inlet]

But if ur down im down

[low radish]

Aw D:

[burnt inlet]

Wasn’t that dymus’ sniper?

[low radish]

Actually I didn't get shot I died by strikers

So I'm better

[low radish]

🥹

Nobody needs to know that

[burnt inlet]

It actually was I was trolling

[low radish]

Yeah it was my sniper

It shot you then cholesterol and then I died to strikers

[burnt inlet]

🙃

[low radish]

I love how even my sentries friendly fire

[burnt inlet]

Locked on to me

[low radish]

If I don't sawed off my team on wave 8 sentries do it for me

[burnt inlet]

Chat don’t worry about me and dauda going from 100=>20% with one enemy

(And bishop to 60)

[low radish]

I was doing R4E1 with Frenchman right

[flat oar]

best gtfo experience getting shoot by sniper sentry

[low radish]

I shot him with sawed off on the S scan

He survived with 3% hp

I literally shot his finger

[burnt inlet]

I’ve gone into the first 5 rooms and I’ve found 2 big carries… I’m on R4B1 which gives you 3 cells already

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-media message is there a fix to this? (I don’t want it to be fixed just wanna know)

[frail heart]

idk

its just a visual thing

[burnt inlet]

And he sprints too

(He has a fog thingy on the back)

[unique hound]

I have a question, if that's alright. Does this game has longevity, or is it like L4D2 after a few days it dies

[digital mural]

wdym longevity

this game has 83 missions

each one of them can take anywhere from 1 hour to 2 for new people

usually a new player takes like 300-400 hours on complete the game

[unique hound]

ohh i thought it was just spawn, kill zombies and repeat

[digital mural]

GTFO isnt the average "casual" horde shooter

its a game that needs a decent amount of time and dedication

[civic wave]

each level has an objective you're trying to complete

so it's not the sort of game that's explicitly a survival mode

you're always trying to do something

[unique hound]

I see, thanks for the replies.

[hasty crane]

is there a glitch where c foam grenades will go through enemies or is it skill issue
cause back to back grenades on r7c3 went through the enemy i was throwing it at

idk how you miss a sleeping enemy though

[ocean spindle]

i think the hitbox can be a little funky specially if u charge it at max when its not needed
usually more the strat is throwing it at its feet but it depends

if its a scout aim it to its pathin

if its a normal enemy then yeah kinda throw it at em but without full charge if possible cuz u dont need it either

[hasty crane]

ok

[jagged shore]

yeah i tended to have that issue most often when i would full charge my throws
ever since i started charging as little as i could then i haven't had issues

[safe cradle]

shooterbug

I dont know why slendo didnt say it's shooterbug but as far as I know grenades going through enemies or objects is just shooterbug

same as cfoam going through doors

There's a mod that fixes shooterbug if you really want. Otherwise, if you're in the run and notice shooterbug, foaming the ground the scout walks on does work

[ocean spindle]

oh well thats me just not knowin

[safe cradle]

I'm not 100% sure but since shooterbug affects most projectile collisions I assume it affects grenades too

[ocean spindle]

idk i just know they work wonky sometimes

[hasty crane]

interesting
also do you know if the buckland shotgun can kill charger scouts to the back?

[safe cradle]

pump shotty? yes

gotta be close and get full back multi

[hasty crane]

thank you

[burnt inlet]

When doing R4B1 should I pull the room with the key inside it?

And maybe plant sentries outside the door thingy?

[ocean spindle]

thee secondary room u mean with the couple scouts?

[safe cradle]

you've enough ammo? then yes

if you're with bots you can stealth

[burnt inlet]

Uuuuuhhhhh secondary room idk if it’s got scouts

[burnt inlet]

I am

[safe cradle]

when I did that map with bots I pulled

[burnt inlet]

Or well will be

Are there any tips on dealing with the waves in terms of using doors?

[safe cradle]

no?

I just stood in long room right after bulk door and shot everything

[burnt inlet]

Just clear it like usual reactors?

[safe cradle]

You can mine the doors below but who cares

[burnt inlet]

My Strat currently too

[burnt inlet]

More so if there was tech but ig not

[safe cradle]

I think it's far too easy of a map to get particular strategies to be honest

After all I was able to do it with bots 🤣

[burnt inlet]

Yea it is very easy

Just yanno

Doing anything to make it easier and grasp the game better

[clever oxide]

Can glowsticks wake sleepers if you smack them?

[safe cradle]

no?

as is you can throw one at a sleeper

it wont wake up

[prime musk]

nothing you can do with a glowstick can wake a sleeper

[ocean spindle]

yes it can, throwing enough at another player to get them to shoot u

[safe cradle]

a common mistake back in the day was to finish glowstick, game changes to gun, you shoot by mistake

well relatively common, I fucked that up once when I first started playing

[ocean spindle]

teehee

[burnt inlet]

Will i need fog turbine for the secondary in R4B1?

[ocean spindle]

uhhh no i dont believe so

theres very little fog

u just need a cell

[prime musk]

you do not need it

[ocean spindle]

dont softlock urself

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[burnt inlet]

So far I haven’t, dunno how I would tbh

[ocean spindle]

if u are just careful u wont its ok

[burnt inlet]

Is it in reactor room?

[ocean spindle]

thee what

whats on the reactor room

[burnt inlet]

Nvm lol

Is it via doing gen order and then opening sec door?

[ocean spindle]

the way to softlock if that whats u mean yes its by finishing main, pluggin a cell into an optional generator on main and then pluggin a second one on the secondary

[burnt inlet]

Lol

[ocean spindle]

what i call the skill issue

[burnt inlet]

I would do that tbh

[safe cradle]

what?

No?

Doing Main uses bulk key

so you cant unlock secondary after main

[burnt inlet]

Oh yea lol

[ocean spindle]

does it?

how do people softlock then- i dont remember

[safe cradle]

secondary's bulk key is at end of seconday

[burnt inlet]

I got fished😔

[safe cradle]

Glitch

[ocean spindle]

ik the one if u reconnect but

i swear there was another way

[safe cradle]

Maps that have "unusable generators" get glitched when someone joins after the map has loaded

and they can put cells in wrong gens

That softlocks the level

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats what i mean but

idk maybe im going insane

i swear there was another way to do it

[safe cradle]

I think you are confusing it with R5A3

Where you CAN softlock if you like, really really try

bring one of the cells to gen in Main

[dapper kestrel]

putting cell into disin station zone maybe after doing sec?

[ocean spindle]

RIGHT

[safe cradle]

which means you cant startup the gen cluster in Overload and get the 4th cell

[ocean spindle]

that was it

not pluggin any cells into the main and doin after

[safe cradle]

That's R5A3

[ocean spindle]

and then u notice u lack one

[safe cradle]

not R4B1

[ocean spindle]

no but u can also on b1 if u do it like that

[dapper kestrel]

no wait, disin station is after a security door where you would have used all the main gens

[ocean spindle]

like how mellifluent said

[safe cradle]

no

[ocean spindle]

u dont need to plug the cell to go in do u?

fuck im just sure it was b1 that u could do it too

[safe cradle]

dude, that zone is AFTER the sec door that wants all 3 gens

[ocean spindle]

ok ok im sorry

[burnt inlet]

I just had two giants that spawned inside of one another

[ocean spindle]

im sorry

[civic wave]

iirc the disinfect station is in the zone with the bulkhead sec door for main, so it is accessible to put a cell from overload into that generator before you finish the overload objective (R5A3)

[heady moat]

R4B1: Extra power cell is before bulkhead.

If doing secondary, you have to use it to open 221 in order to complete the secondary. Need to get bulkhead key from 227 (accessed via 221 to continue on main)

If doing main only, you didn't have to open 221, so you can use it to open 57 (disinfection zone) after opening main bulkhead

[burnt inlet]

I can’t wait for yalls reaction to my clear time

[safe cradle]

yes

[burnt inlet]

If I clear it this run

[safe cradle]

it's what I said in that long winded way, thanks for putting it in a clearer phrase

[low radish]

I wish my 4 hours R4D2 run actually sucseeded

[safe cradle]

I tend to write often instead of putting a single phrase so it's a damn mess

[low radish]

it would be so funny

[burnt inlet]

Is all the main gens before the main bulkhead door?

[safe cradle]

in R4B1? no

[civic wave]

in r4b1? there is a single gen after the bulkhead

[burnt inlet]

52 is just resource room then?

[dapper kestrel]

that the one near main bulkhead door? if so I think thats just for log

[burnt inlet]

Oh ok

Found a medipack

[safe cradle]

was a "res zone" with real shitty enemies in OG

[burnt inlet]

Chat i have a funni idea

What if I pull the room

And use a mine to clear it

Mission successful

No dmg taken

[tardy ingot]

you can softlock R4B1

do secondary, plug cell into the disinfect zone gen (none of the doors are locked by needing all 3 gens plugged)

R5A3
plug overload cell into resource zone gen asap

[civic wave]

and then r4a2...

[ocean spindle]

I KNEW IT

grahhhhh

:[

i been called misinformed while being misisnformend!!!!

[tardy ingot]

yea that needs insane rng tho tbf

[low radish]

how can you softlock R4A2?

[burnt inlet]

Ok well I’m not gonna take a cell into the secondary (except the one I need) then

[dapper kestrel]

I thought the disinfect zone was after a security alarm that's in the room the last gen was in?

Or do you not need to plug it in to the final gen before starting alarm?

[tardy ingot]

use up all cells on the map

[burnt inlet]

Oooooh I remember the gen

[tardy ingot]

but dont open your hsu secondary zone
and the hsu sec zone has a cell

(this is rng whether this overlaps)

[burnt inlet]

Fucking hell ive soft locked all my runs I believe

Except this one

[tardy ingot]

you dont

[burnt inlet]

But wait do I gain a cell anywhere except zone 51?

[dapper kestrel]

In r4b1 you start with 3 and 1 is in the first zone somewhere. (3 for main, 1 for sec/disinfect) if you do secondary you just can't go to disinfect station

[burnt inlet]

Oh ok

Well

I have two 4 use disinfect

For one person

And so far I have <10% infect

[tardy ingot]

You rly dont get infected in a way that matters

[burnt inlet]

Yea

what is the expected time for completing this level?

[frail heart]

22:46

[fathom ice]

is it a 100% wr

[prime musk]

true solo clears vary between 1:15 and 2:15. mine was 2 hours flat pretty much

[burnt inlet]

Uhm…

Well

I think I’m past that point

[tardy ingot]

r4b1 sec?

[burnt inlet]

Still haven’t done reactor

[fathom ice]

u can check

by pressing O

[tardy ingot]

realistically with 3 bots id say 1 hour

if you are blind and playing a bit slower up to 1:30

[prime musk]

ye with bots it should be faster

[burnt inlet]

1:26

Hours

[tardy ingot]

What are you doing in that time frame

[burnt inlet]

So not past that point

[tardy ingot]

[burnt inlet]

Waiting for food

Was cooking so I couldn’t do sec

[civic wave]

food sounds good

[fathom ice]

chatting in gtfo chat of course

[tardy ingot]

Thats not playing

[burnt inlet]

Nope lol

[civic wave]

i was just at the convenience store (i forgot to buy bread when i went there earlier so went back for my nighttime walk)

but didn't buy anything

because i should not be buying more snacks

[burnt inlet]

Clear time is gonna be insane

[prime musk]

i need to resolo r5c2 and r5d2 ngl
the clear times are atrocious

[fathom ice]

but

ure just giant capping

[prime musk]

c2 reactor is actually interesting

and d2 when i reclear ill be shooting reactor

[fathom ice]

u still cap ending and ov

[fathom ice]

what about wave 3

[prime musk]

i looked at another run and shooting ovl actually seems fine

[prime musk]

still shooting

[fathom ice]

while pushing into chargers?

[prime musk]

if you save a big ammo accessibly in respawn zone

[fathom ice]

smells like a lot of resets

[prime musk]

it's doable

[fathom ice]

it's scary

[burnt inlet]

(Also I’ve been running back and forwards from reactor to 53 to 52)

[fathom ice]

u get packed room and double scout in first

and it's cooked

even one is bad

[prime musk]

before pulling that room

you clear out the big room to left in respawn zone

and you have line

[fathom ice]

like

C?

only line i see is bridge

[prime musk]

the biggest room that isn't the really big room

you can pull and kite back to reactor

and kill on reactor bridge

[fathom ice]

it's a lot of ammo though

[prime musk]

but that requires reclearing A/B of respawn zone an extra time which is rough

it's very tight on ammo yes

[fathom ice]

I don't see a clear

it is doable but

fuck it idk

what if u never get 2 5 uses

or even 2 4 uses

it's just cooked

[prime musk]

you're for sure getting that much sky

[fathom ice]

nah i mean

in 2 packs

[prime musk]

ik

[fathom ice]

idk I've had a run with

only 2 uses in reactor

[prime musk]

like 4 and 5 uses spawn in every zone there is ammo in that level there is just no way im not getting at least some big packs before reactor

[fathom ice]

so u have ntg to bring with u pmuch

[prime musk]

im fully expecting to have to stealth some in both 284 and 285 to get extra ammo

[fathom ice]

ur best bet 4 and a 5

prob

[prime musk]

might give in and mod in a supply booster to have a non kite (solo) clear as well