#gtfo-related-questions

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ocean spindle
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r1 is hard as an A1 tier and easier in everything else
i dont think its an awful introduction

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R6 or R1 is always the play, r3 is a little too hard even for having 3 a tier

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3-4 implies the existence of a fourth

hard nexus
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it can be done with 4

ocean spindle
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but its not ideal

prisma ivy
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ok sure fine i just mean its more beneficial to just play other shit other than banging your head against literally one of the worst maps in the game

hard nexus
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bio does fuck all and they are just starting even more so

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unless they take sniper sentry i guess

ocean spindle
hard nexus
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but u dont need one

ocean spindle
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aaa

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i knew it

prisma ivy
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are you seriously saying r1c1 isnt that bad

digital mural
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It's boring but it teaches you setup is important

prisma ivy
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it is fucking terrible

ocean spindle
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r1c1 at least has the plus of being an introduction to something

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and tbh most newies i see playing it do get stuck but end up likin it for being a change of pace on the game

digital mural
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R6D1 reactor with tank for newbies will be a mess

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R6 C tiers can actually be difficult

ocean spindle
digital mural
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We are talking about the perspective of a new person

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Ignore all your previous knowledge

hard nexus
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its not as bad as 5b4

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but pretty difficult to stay awake thats for sure

digital mural
hardy grotto
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it’s just better to get them to skip to r6 imo

ocean spindle
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in my copypaste i now just say R1/R6 to give the option

prisma ivy
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im speaking broadly but the amount of new players that instinctively start at r1 then get stuck on c1 then say this is a shit game and forget about it is so maddening

digital mural
dusty basalt
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Is a knife with +54% damage strong enough to kill a scout without occiput?

halcyon current
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Just use hammer bro

hardy grotto
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LOL

digital mural
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If they can't make a simple reactor and give up easily i don't see them doing much later on the game

prisma ivy
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i mean its about first impressions, they're gonna think the whole game is like that

slender zenith
dusty basalt
ocean spindle
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scout is x3 front right

prisma ivy
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and refund it before 2 hrs is up

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actually nah they wouldnt get there before 2 hrs

digital mural
ocean spindle
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and it doesnt get the sleeping bonus or does it

ocean spindle
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only a1 if u do the tutorial

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the math on gtfo is so tiring

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idk if the scout counts as asleep when walkin but if it does i think a 50% does it

digital mural
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Isnt there a section on each page with the math already done?

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How much damage does what and that stuff

ocean spindle
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uhhh would be cool seeing it

digital mural
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Well, theres an idea for the new wiki

native sun
ocean spindle
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but also harder to code

dusty basalt
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8.47 is definitely not 15 rip

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then again, stagger is probably long enough for 2 hits

native sun
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Big thing that +54% actually does is mean you don't need backstab multi (just back multi)

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Which makes limb break much easier from behind

dusty basalt
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huh, didn't know backstabs have damage multiplies

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you can 'backstab' limbs too?

native sun
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Everything gets 2x from behind (back multi)

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Knife specifically gets an extra 1.7x (backstab multi)

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But backstab multi and back multi have different criteria so sometimes it is hard to stack them

thin idol
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2 turrets, sniper, shotgun, them a bio and a creamer

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we are defending in the reactor room

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we can put it in very quickly

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we have afast typer on our team

ocean spindle
thin idol
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is burst turret meta

ocean spindle
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and even if u have a fast typer defending in the reactor is bad

ocean spindle
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snipers cool for some situations

civic wave
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how much explanation would you like on why cfoam/creamer is bad for reactors

thin idol
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where else would we defend

ocean spindle
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and mine and foam are AMAZING but not for reactors

digital mural
thin idol
ocean spindle
civic wave
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burst sentry is generally the staple pick, and best into regular enemies

digital mural
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Theres everything You need to know there

ocean spindle
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:3

digital mural
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.

thin idol
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I figure my question would be very common

digital mural
dusty basalt
thin idol
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hilarious

ocean spindle
# fathom ice can i get an explanation?

back multi depends on the angle of the enemy with u, and on stagger animations it remains the same
backstab sort of does the same but rotates with ur actual position with the stagger, so if the big does a 180 u will only get backstab and not the x2 back multi

ionic leaf
ocean spindle
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AND

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lmao

ocean spindle
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70% dmg plus a x3 boost

dusty basalt
fathom ice
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it felt like back multi updates on finish animation

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and it's not dynamic

ocean spindle
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yeah, but u can also take advantage of it by hitting mid stagger with ur hammer on front and still dealing the same dmg

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knife is the only one that actively suffers from the animation, and not cuz of the back multi but its own

dusty basalt
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my bad

fathom ice
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knife is just being silly

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average

ocean spindle
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like me

fathom ice
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so ig if I don't roll giant turn animation I'll still get 2 multis?

thin idol
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good advice, thanks guys

ocean spindle
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gaming

fathom ice
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aight

civic wave
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so, reactor spawns run off a few principles
firstly, each wave always spawns the same amount of enemies, and these spawns get queued up. if you kill the enemies so quickly, you'll have a lot of down time. if you kill the enemies very slowly, the game will be unable to spawn all of them at once and you'll be spending a lot of time to clear the spawn cap (when there's ~25-30 enemies, alarms/reactors can't spawn the next wave in until there's space to do so)
because of this, it's advantageous to delay putting the reactor code in to give yourself additional time (enemies only spawn during the high intensity test phase, not the verification phase or warmup phase) to clear the spawn cap and find resources

I won't go fully into the reactor spawn mechanics, but the enemies will spawn 2 rooms away from the player who is furthest from reactor. You can push up and hold in an area with resources and send someone back to input code near the end of waves, this gives you easier access to resources and a bit more cover

fathom ice
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holy fuck

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not the essay jumpscare

civic wave
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i think that's all i really need to say, but can elaborate that because cfoam does not kill enemies, it's not very useful in reactors - the goal is to kill all the enemies as quickly as possible rather than delaying them (because the enemies get queued and you'll have to deal with them regardless)

thin idol
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oh damn fr

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Yeah I thought it was like a security door type deal

ocean spindle
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goat explainng why it isnt like a security door type deal

civic wave
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so it's much preferred to take a turret over any other tool - though biotracker always provides value by giving you information (and sniper sentry symbiosis, meaning that the turret locks onto targets faster, shoots faster, and uses less ammo on biotracked enemies)

thin idol
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ill prolly take bio+sniper if I dont have a third

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but yeah 4 burst turrets understood🫡

digital mural
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4 lol

ocean spindle
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the fourth sentry doing nothing:

digital mural
upbeat epoch
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hey i was wondering on why recently i feel like I've been seeing more hel autos sentries in speedruns. Has something changed?

minor fractal
hard nexus
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just did r5c2 in matchmaking

tiny wyvern
hard nexus
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very

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the only part where we almost wiped was one of the alarms to the cell

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all purple scans with shadows

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reactor and overload were a cakewalk

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jademodo joined on code 6

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then he had to go

soft crater
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The carry left

tiny wyvern
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aw man
Well that's a good run then

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...Unlike most r5c2 runs

hard nexus
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its actually not that bad

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main is the hardest part

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at least now i know where to go

vivid beacon
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whats a good solo gear setup? cause i use pistol, shotgun, c-foam andsledgehammer

vivid beacon
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bot solo

tiny wyvern
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cfoam, mine and sentry are fine for you
Unless you're stealthing shadows, bio should be for bots cause they're infinitely better at it than you are

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Most specials and mains are fine so long as they're appropriate for the level in the first place

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And sledge is the best all rounder for melees

vivid beacon
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how does it work when bots use bio?

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do they just auto ping things and stuff

tiny wyvern
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Bots would want weapons like burst rifle and burst cannon as they are good with them

tiny wyvern
vivid beacon
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ok

tiny wyvern
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Bot solo-wise do keep in mind that there are currently three(Maybe one by now) that are only theoretically doable

vivid beacon
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thanks for the info

tiny wyvern
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They're really far back on the list tho

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So I wouldn't worry too much about them for the mometn

vivid beacon
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like r7 and r8 or something?

tiny wyvern
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@wild flare He'll know this better

vivid beacon
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but yeah im still in r1 so itll take me a bit

tiny wyvern
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If you have questiosn we can answer them

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But just so you know bot soloing without good skill is hell

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And you will suffer a lot

vivid beacon
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yeah i figured that out just from the first two stages

tiny wyvern
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We have lfg here for the levels you can't do, if you mostly enjoy soloing treat it as a last resort

vivid beacon
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but ill be fine

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i like doing solo

tiny wyvern
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I hope you do
...Cause if you're struggling with R1 already this game might burn you out quicker than most

vivid beacon
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ive played alot of souls games just not a hard shooter

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ill just wish myself luck

cursive dragon
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What is this “Long kiting” I hear about every now and then?

tiny wyvern
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Like around around

cursive dragon
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You make them chase you and just run away?

tiny wyvern
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Yes
To make distance so you can either plan what to do next or just shoot them without them hitting you

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Just so I understand, where did you hear this from?

cursive dragon
tiny wyvern
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Which is what i said

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Most of the time you don't need to do that

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Cause... well, if you don't know the layouts of this game well, you'll just die

cursive dragon
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Ok sick, thank you

knotty relic
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Long kiting is crazy.

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Those people can solo long kite and it baffles me.

knotty relic
frail heart
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Long kiting usually mean luring enemies super far away, usually without killing them to buy you time to do scans and such

digital mural
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In a normal game you usually do that if you are the only left alive and theres a massive horde following you

knotty relic
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Yeah but you guys can dodge tongues like it’s CoD zombies, right?

digital mural
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How to dodge:
Make one side step

frail heart
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Do you know how many hours i have in cod zombies

digital mural
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10k?

knotty relic
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2?

frail heart
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10K baby woooooooooooo

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😴

knotty relic
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Holy craaaaaaaap

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Dude I played Black Ops 2 zombies with some people awhile ago and I was like “this is kinda brain dead. I wish I was playing GTFO”.

wild flare
frail heart
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r8 can be done

wild flare
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Thats reassuring

vivid beacon
tiny wyvern
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@wild flare probably would be able to tell you more accurately

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But... Well, for four people teams it takes about half-hour to 45 min
For solos first clears a bit more

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But only a bit
R1A1 and R1B1 aren't that complex and solo with bots usually isn't much different from 4 manning
(except for the resource management part)

wild flare
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With bots you will spend more than 1h on almost every lvl, some can take 2h+, my record was 3h 20 mins xd, althought half of hour i was afk

tiny wyvern
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It's usually under an hour if you stick it close
(It could easily be over it if you play it really safe)

wild flare
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Since i was new i am pretty sure i spend more than a 1h on those, cause i explored almost all zones, crouch stealth gaming etc

vivid beacon
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Damn I’m really slow then

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It took like 3 hours on the first stage of r1

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It didn’t really help that I didn’t know how comms work for bots

wild flare
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Check this stealth guide, it will help you save big amount of time on lvls

inner acorn
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What does it mean when players type numbers in chat matchmaking lobby? I.e. 1 2 3 4 5

hard nexus
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if its shit u wont see your message send instantly

tiny wyvern
hard nexus
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yes thats how it works

grizzled patrol
burnt inlet
grizzled patrol
burnt inlet
brazen storm
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What was the tentacle enemy at the end of the 2017 supposed to be?

tiny wyvern
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That guy doesn't exist

tiny wyvern
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We have a snatcher now, but it's different

brazen storm
sturdy dew
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tentacle......

digital mural
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We don't know

sturdy dew
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we were robbed

tiny wyvern
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I mean we have some concept art for it I believe?

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Or something?

digital mural
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Snatcher is no where near that thing

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Not even in concept arts

tiny wyvern
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reminds of that emp hybrid in modded

sturdy dew
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honestly when you watch it on repeat it really starts to look goofy

brazen storm
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I saw some concept art from snatchers and they did have some sort of tentacle, still maybe not the same enemy

sick mauve
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in the gif it looks so avoidable too lol

glad sun
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Getting licked by an offscreen giant SCWhehehehehe

sick mauve
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sniper melee was crazy back then

ocean spindle
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im pretty sure it is not the snatcher, the snatchers another thing apart from the tentacle

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technically speakin, thats the snatcher, and what we have is the pouncer

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or maybe idk

sick mauve
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if i had to guess, that’s the (scrapped) tentacle trap

minor fractal
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The difference between the snatcher concepts is largely superficial.

brazen storm
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Tentacle trap?

digital mural
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A tentacle that traps you

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Crazy i know

brazen storm
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Ohh

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Its probably that yeah

hardy grotto
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what else could that possibly mean

digital mural
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Im actually happy there isnt anything like that in the game rn

minor fractal
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Tentacle that traps you
CRAZY, I wonder if there's anything like that in the current build of the game.

sick mauve
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spitters but they pull you towards them

digital mural
brazen storm
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In the trailer they mentioned something about looking up once in a while

digital mural
rapid tusk
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The amount of words i dont understand here is intimidating

brazen storm
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Yeah Basically lol

glad sun
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That would be "fun" when going through dense rooms

digital mural
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Getting trapped in front of a scout

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What a fun experience

sick mauve
glad sun
sick mauve
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oh i do have a gtfo related question actually

ocean spindle
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:O

digital mural
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:O

sturdy dew
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:O

fathom ice
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:O

sick mauve
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who named him pablo?

ocean spindle
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uh yes

brazen storm
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I hope we will get a behind the scenes commentary from gtfo someday, i love seeing old concepts and scrapped content

digital mural
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Devs too busy with DoW

ocean spindle
brazen storm
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O

ocean spindle
# sick mauve who named him pablo?

if i search for the oldest message with "pablo" after 2021 i get ryk asking if Ptank stands for pablo tank and then a video of a e1 completion with the thumbnal sayin "pablo"

hardy grotto
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his group coined it in og r5b3 iirc

sick mauve
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the more you know

ocean spindle
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piano

gloomy owl
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ok i got a glitch that i was finally able to recreate. so first this is not modded pure vanilla. it is a glitch where any and all naturally spawning enemies in a level, this includes any and all sleepers, strikers, giants, scouts and any naturally spawning enemies not related to an alarm door. i do not know if this applies to sleeping bosses because both rundowns levels that i managed to achieve this on do not have ay sleeper bosses. i first did this on R7C3 the infamous no ammo level so I this is how it went i solo with 3 bots starts the decent and while descending my friend joined mid drop and then as soon as the drop stopped there was a massive lag spike i am talking while the pod is faced towards that hole we came down it froze for like 15 seconds then me and my friend spawned. i take out my bio tracker and no enemies where in the first room and i thought that was weird but moved to the second room no enemies again then i try to ping the two striker scouts in the two adjacent rooms and there is nothing so we go through and try beat the level we get to the timed evvent where your supposed to stealth through scouts and giants to get access to suplies of cource there were no enemies then we end up dead on the following defence section. we respawn at a checkpoint and none of the enemies are spawned in still. now i thoughts that what caused the glitch was a person joining as the level fully loads in because you typically get frame drops while droping due to the level loading in so the friend joing caused the game to freak out when decideing the order of events adn forgot to spawn in the enemies. but just now not playing on my normal pc but my labtop that does not run gtfo perfect but playable with reduced graphics and it happed again compleatly solo no friend on R2E1

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no enemies spawned and only things like the surge alarms and blood doors casue enemies to spawn. i figues i should bring this up because i ahve asked about this once or twice and everone said that it was probobly a hackd or modded loby wich it is not. the second reason i wanted to bring this up is that it could revoulutionize the any% speedruns of missions imagin any dificult mission with zero sleeping enemies and scouts all gone. just wanted to see if this is a known bug or something compleatly new. dought it but hey i dont see anyone talking about it and for such a big bug i figured it would be patched in the final update that came out a bit a go but nope. plz anyone share any info you know about this

paper summit
frail heart
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only for knife

ocean lance
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wtf don't say thst frosty let the misinfo spread

grizzled patrol
frail heart
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Usually tho with early drop bug everything catches up bc host is sending data

safe cradle
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I've never seen what cole described

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Then again I dont speedrun

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But I often join mid-run games and sometimes joined middrop

tardy ingot
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Some glitches/bug are extremely rare due to specific circumstances

Hell theres some that are pretty easy to get but most people wouldnt know about without being told
(See the uplink drop issue, early drop bug, freeze bug)

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Or smth like the checkpoint insta objective finish

safe cradle
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Or that trick to open that R6AX sec door at the end

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But even some stuff I've seen at least once

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Like [IP_ADDRESS] instead of the IP or whatnot

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Or Scout bombing or whatever it's called

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I've never seen, nor even on video, the "enemies didnt spawn/all died on level drop".

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(I'm not doubting it may exist)

tardy ingot
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Ive heard of it happening before

It might just be a thing as rare as kraken death

ocean spindle
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and u there with a shocked face

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
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oh well ksks

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bet ur face was still the same

dusty basalt
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It's really hard when giants stagger spin into walls.

grand trail
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does anyone have tips for R2E1? me and my friend are stuck on it

grand trail
tardy ingot
paper summit
tardy ingot
dusty basalt
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Fun but also scary

paper summit
grand trail
paper summit
grand trail
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we use mine cfoam shotgun turret and bio

grizzled patrol
safe cradle
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3 sentries 1 bio is very good, but I'd rather get something else other than a CS in R2E1, and I say that as someone who picks CS often

grand trail
safe cradle
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Moreover, you might want a player and not a bot to be on hybrid duty

safe cradle
grizzled patrol
safe cradle
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Hybrids get staggered easily when they're charging their barrage btw

grand trail
grizzled patrol
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then look harder 4Head

grand trail
safe cradle
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Not going to lie (and I dont want to offend you), if you're stuck there you wont like what's after that part

grand trail
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that sounds good lmao 😭

ocean spindle
tardy ingot
# grand trail we have 2 boths using hel relvolver and burst cannon, he uses pdw and combat sho...

As sleepo has said you have pretty subpar waveclear and giant clear with the precision rifle. Id probably swap that out

Also… dont use the shotgun sentry. And realistically skip foam

The most important thing tho, try skipping r2e1. That part isnt even remotely where its hard yet and theres no reason to hit your head against a brickwall (r2e1 is about 4th to 6th hardest in the game, r2d2 for example isnt even close)

safe cradle
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I'll be sincere I'd even skip mines

grand trail
tardy ingot
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mines still have a pretty decent effect for a typical clear. 3 sentries also mean you need to know how to use them

safe cradle
tardy ingot
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Realistically if you are stuck on 2nd surge of r2e1 you should just skip it

Gives you time to improve while having more fun in the next dozen levels

safe cradle
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2 players 2 bots really wont help in the last part either

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Just skip to R3, you can clear that 100% with 2-2

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Anything there is way easier than R2E1

grand trail
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alright thank you for the suggestions y'all 🙂

flint holly
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Yo, i heard the sniper got nerfed since i last played, how do u kill scouts without it?

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Also the levels make no sense what order should u do them in

flat oar
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Precision rifle, hel rifle

carmine grotto
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mele

tiny wyvern
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Some pub/matchmake so randomly

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Up to you at the end of the day

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You'll suffer either way
Whether or not you want someone else to suffer with you by playing levels out of your league is up to you as well

flat oar
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or r1 > r3 > r6> r2> r7 > r4 > r5 > r8 kinda

flint holly
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Im with friends

tiny wyvern
tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
flat oar
flint holly
tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
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Is lore order

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Chornologically

flint holly
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What about difficulty order

tiny wyvern
tardy ingot
tardy ingot
# flint holly What about difficulty order

from easiest (left) to hardest (right)
R1>R3>R2/R6>R4/R7>R5/R8

but this matters less since difficulty is still based on the tiers (aside from R8) for the main objectives (aka A tier = A tier)

tiny wyvern
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As are usually the easiest and Es are usually the hardest

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If you go for full PEs I believe the order changes?

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Slightly?

tardy ingot
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that order is by all objectives

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if you go main only its way weirder to sort

tiny wyvern
flint holly
tardy ingot
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R5 is especially high because the optionals elevate the early levels a lot for example

tiny wyvern
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The rundowns get progressively more complex as you go on

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And from R4 onwards As usually have side objectives

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That make them harder

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It usually even things out

tardy ingot
# flint holly Why lol wont the As get boring if u have to do more difficult ones before them a...

A tiers generally wont be an issue for boredom as you will clear them in a matter of minutes and can play them very aggressively (also later on theres some lore)

for hard ones, kinda. Its usually recommended to Skip R2E1 (4th to 6th hardest level) until you comfortably clear stuff like R4C3PE or D tier optionals.
But its also not unusual to skip R2D1 and/or R2D2 as R3 introduces their objectives in an easier manner in their A tiers)

tiny wyvern
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At the end of the day, play how you (and your team) want
If you're stuck somewhere, feel free to skip to another rundown first then come back

tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
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Revolver technically also can but needs occi shot(?)

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Tru's old spreadsheet is still here somewhere

prime musk
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lots more can kill with occi

tiny wyvern
burnt inlet
tiny wyvern
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The spreadsheet also has cscout numbers

glad sun
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C foam or scatter for consistent kills on charger scouts I think

digital mural
sick mauve
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sniper

tiny wyvern
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backshot sniper pls

glad sun
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Ooh BC, does it need back or does front work too

digital mural
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Backshots 🔥

sick mauve
burnt inlet
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God i love backshots 🥰 nothing fills my heart with joy more than shooting giants in the back with my sawed off 🥰

glad sun
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Can also choke mod it if you spam hard enough I think

sick mauve
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yeah, or be client

burnt inlet
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Average GTFO moment

tiny wyvern
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It's just inconsistent

sick mauve
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probably

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idk, idrc lol

flat oar
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scout random time before “title card”

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maybe 0.25 - 0.5 sec

glad sun
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Yeah you can two shot a charger scout with choke mod and it fires fast enough that it's doable

tardy ingot
glad sun
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Though there are definitely way better options

tardy ingot
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for back dmg kill

glad sun
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Wait does that mean choke mod can oneshot to the back if all pellets hit?

tardy ingot
glad sun
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Epik

tiny wyvern
tardy ingot
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its consistent

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easily

burnt inlet
tardy ingot
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you can full mag dump in less than 0.1

tiny wyvern
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Oh yeah well that makes sense then

burnt inlet
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Fair enough

tardy ingot
sick mauve
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world's fastest short rifle user rejoices

burnt inlet
flat oar
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try 3 back shots with revolver

burnt inlet
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And have a wave spawn?

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No thanks I’m good

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(I’ll miss 3 out of 3 shots)

glad sun
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Storm trooper aim

burnt inlet
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Yep

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You should watch me try to hel rifle stuff

glad sun
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You should watch me consistently miss heads because my mouse keeps dropping my inputs BabyShooter

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I need a new one

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Or alerting a feeler because my melee releases early

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So fun

burnt inlet
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🙃

digital mural
# glad sun Storm trooper aim

Keep in mind lore wise Storm Troopers were part of the elite military force of the empire and were actual competent at their job

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Too bad the main characters have plot armor

tardy ingot
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tbf in the og movies some of the plot armor is laid down to vader not wanting them killed

digital mural
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Yeah

digital mural
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That too

tardy ingot
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then you get the stuff like han being potentially guided by the force (his insane luck) according to the books

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and luke and leia, well obviously

mystic heron
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I thought it was lore accurate that they can't aim because they can't see out of their helmets well

tardy ingot
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they are generally highly effective

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the first scene in ep 4 shows that

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they roll over the rebells

glad sun
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Elite soldiers

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That can't kill the main characters

tardy ingot
glad sun
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But have free shots on everyone else

digital mural
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Nowdays a lot of media shows them as straight up dumb and regarded
I hate it

tardy ingot
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disney star wars is dogshit

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shocker

digital mural
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Crazy i know

glad sun
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The drone soldiers were funny

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Even though storm troopers were better, they were funnier

tardy ingot
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droids?

glad sun
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Yeah

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I have read one star wars book, so idk a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff when my knowledge is purely from the movies

tardy ingot
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I read a ton of the pre disney era stuff

glad sun
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The droids were great though

tardy ingot
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clone wars droids are goated

crisp salmon
#

What do experienced players make of the Burst Pistol, Slug Shotty and Short Rifle, now that they've been out for a while?

upper ginkgo
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they're overhated

sudden nexus
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burst pistol is decently cracked

upper ginkgo
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vanilla is mostly striker spam so they perform decently

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(insert obligatory autos are shit opinion)

ocean spindle
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i think slug is the better of the 3

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but not by much

tardy ingot
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slug is mid (very fixable issues)
burst pistol is meh
short rifle is bad unless you wanna go cracko aim, in which case its meh

digital mural
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Short rifle auto spam

slow gazelle
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do u guys think we will ever see who the warden is

burnt inlet
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Isn’t it the giant alien?

slow gazelle
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what giant alien

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theres giant aliens

burnt inlet
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The virus is technically an alien

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Id suggest going to #gtfo-lore as there is where the lore master exists

burnt inlet
slow gazelle
digital mural
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Game already ended

slow gazelle
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aw man

burnt inlet
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Was the kraken the giant alien?

digital mural
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And we dont know if it has a phyisical body

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We just know he is part of the Collectors

slow gazelle
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they shoiuld have added loot crates and a battle pass before ending the game

ocean spindle
digital mural
slow gazelle
burnt inlet
digital mural
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I need gambling in GTFO

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GTFO gacha game

slow gazelle
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sleeper tua

burnt inlet
slow gazelle
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would hawk tua from a sleeper be fye or nah

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real talk rn

burnt inlet
digital mural
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The Kraken is like a super carrier

burnt inlet
digital mural
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Yes

slow gazelle
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nah hawk tu a from a sleeper would suck

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when u really think about it

burnt inlet
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Insane conclusion

digital mural
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Throw yourself off KDS Deep

burnt inlet
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Genius take

digital mural
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Do it

slow gazelle
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how coincidental that gtfo adds a second g

digital mural
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No balls

burnt inlet
slow gazelle
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have u guys seen the videos on how to get huzz

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and its a guy going into a mental health server threatening to khms

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i saw the video bro its insane

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nvm i also take back the hawk tua conclusion that hawk tua from a sleeper would be bad

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those who h awkta 💀 👲

faint crystal
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how the hell do you duo r1b2 without bots

tiny wyvern
tardy ingot
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knowledge goes a long way

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like a LOOOOOOOOOONG way

faint crystal
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me and a friend have been struggling on it for days, we can do the entire thing until the end, we die in extraction

tardy ingot
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extract is funnily enough super chill if you play it differently

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instead of killing the sleeping shooters in the hsu zone

tiny wyvern
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If it's your first time playing through try to at least do it with bots

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They do help more often than you think

ocean spindle
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bots my beloved

tiny wyvern
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Duoing is miles better than soloing but it's not a cakewalk

tardy ingot
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Sneak past (at least the ones in B and C (and D for 21 iirc) and aggro them on the way out

They are pretty harmless on extract and slow

Altho shooting extract with 2 sentries isnt rly too tough either doing it the normal way

faint crystal
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we want to do it without bots if possible

digital mural
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Why?

faint crystal
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enjoy the challenge

ocean spindle
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what tools do u have?

faint crystal
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bio and sentry

digital mural
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Poor bots

ocean spindle
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what kinda sentry?

faint crystal
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bio helps a lot with what to expect in the next room,

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burst sentry

ocean spindle
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bio is based alright both r based

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good tool :D

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maybs for a duo the one sentry is straining but oh well

tiny wyvern
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For R1B2 anyways

I suppose get better at stealthing giants and rooms, don't do too much extra rooms?

tardy ingot
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considering r1b2

2 of 3 alarms are singular direction and SUUPER far away spawns

Only the third has 2 sided spawns, but also far away spawns.

Bio is not rly worth in a duo for this one over an extra sentry

tardy ingot
faint crystal
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ok so leaving enemies alive in hsu zone so not as many spawn at the extract point?

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as well as a second sentry

tardy ingot
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its 1 way go about it
But its moreso a smart strat rather than a way to improve yourself

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And R1C1 is gonna need that HARD

faint crystal
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idk it just feels like theres nothing else we can do

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we do the same thing every time and it never works

tiny wyvern
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Are you running out of ammo?

faint crystal
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nope

tiny wyvern
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Or tool or smth?

tardy ingot
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overrun likely

faint crystal
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yeah overrun is what happens

tiny wyvern
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Your weapons may be the problem then

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What are you running?

faint crystal
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pistol and precision

tardy ingot
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which can be

  1. wrong tool
  2. wrong tool useage
  3. bad guns
  4. bad gun useage
  5. bad aim
  6. bad dodging/movement/stagger

a mix of the above

tiny wyvern
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What about the other guy?

faint crystal
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same

carmine grotto
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thats a big factor in why then

tardy ingot
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oh no
You arent both running precision for the thermal are you?

faint crystal
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no more for the single shot kill on small enemies

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thermal is nice for me since im holding sentry

digital mural
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Me when flashlights exist

faint crystal
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plus it takes care of shooter giants pretty quick

tiny wyvern
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No it doesn't

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It sucks at it

digital mural
tardy ingot
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ok step 1

Get rid of bio (at least in a duo no bots) and the thermals.
And get used to stealthing entirely without (there are guides for this if you struggle with it)

digital mural
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Or burst cannon

faint crystal
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that being said, every other weapon i've tried just hasn't felt nice or burns through ammo like crazy

tardy ingot
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step 2

2 sentries and slightly better wave clear and you should be gucci on r1b2

faint crystal
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for a1 and b1 we didn't use bio

tiny wyvern
faint crystal
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or thermal

tardy ingot
faint crystal
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zone 19 for us one time had 5 shooter giants

digital mural
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Honestly change prec rifle for a shotgun

tardy ingot
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Like you may see 1-2 every 10 runs

tiny wyvern
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I think you mean normal giants

tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
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Not the chickens

tardy ingot
faint crystal
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the giants w/ spikes that shot

digital mural
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Chickens

tardy ingot
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they mean chickens (big shooters)

tiny wyvern
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Is 19 just a zone that has chickens?

faint crystal
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as opposed to the ones with the hussy that have the tentacle

carmine grotto
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19 is only for res which there should be plenty of with 2 of you

faint crystal
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we never need to go to 19

tardy ingot
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they 1. arent a threat anyway (melee them)

and 2. only rly show up in zone 19

They can super rarely show up in the rest of the level. But its rare rare

ocean spindle
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rare like the meat

digital mural
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What

tiny wyvern
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Hel rifle could be useful for you if you want to one shot enemies

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pistol is fine, but you really want something that can kill things faster on duos i assume?

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Pistol's more for stagger

tardy ingot
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pistol is also for killing

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its just not top tier

ocean spindle
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pistol kills it just has stagger on top of it, like hel shotgun

tiny wyvern
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Yeah i suppose so

tardy ingot
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ammo also rly shouldnt be scarce in r1b2 duo typically

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unless you are running like… 2 snipers

ocean spindle
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thats more of a matter of good aim and recognizin patters to waste less ammo i guess

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player shooting to enemies that move side to side:

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D:

tardy ingot
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Its more the thing that r1b2 has massive rooms

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So enemies spawn far away

tiny wyvern
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I mean you can also use mg (Pls don't crucify me) and let the bullet spam help you a bit with the crowd control

tardy ingot
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so you get less waves

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hell in the speedrun we fight like 2 alarm waves over 3 alarms

tiny wyvern
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ram aren't you in a run right now

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how are you here

mystic heron
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huh

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i just finished up cooking stream what you mean

knotty relic
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It’s just dependent on the player never missing?

ocean spindle
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it defo benefits of course but the best for pistol is bodyshot, headshot, bodyshot as it staggers with every single bullet

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something like rifle is the same but with less ammo + its other benefits- so its a little more punishing, a lil

knotty relic
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Ah

ocean spindle
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and then dmr is actually more punishing

knotty relic
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Yeah DMR I usually body, then head.

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Mostly because I suck at hitting sleeper heads in the first shot

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Shooters though,

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I get those guys in the first shot and it makes me hyper happy.

ocean spindle
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i just wait to the running-in-a-straight-line thing

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for strikers

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if not i shove if it gets too close

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and kill it with whatev my special is as i like shotgun with dmr

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:D

knotty relic
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I like dmr with machine gun

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Thinking of switching to basic pump though for my special when we do recon runs

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But with like Hel Rifle I always pick Carbine.

ocean spindle
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mg is usually just my default for whatev i go for main, but for dmr i probs would pick sumn with no charge up

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[or minimal]

knotty relic
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Right cuz need “oh shit gun”

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Also ammo efficiency is pretty bad if you run like DMR and Hel Rifle. Unless you never miss I guess.

ocean spindle
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hel rifle is pretty good on ammo eff- tbh theres just sort of a point where u dont worry about it so much

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idk i play usually just guns i like to play but im not one to try challenge guns like dmr prec rifle or so

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i wanna b balanced on some way

knotty relic
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Same here. Unless you disagree with the two loadouts I mentioned.

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If you shoot them when they clump

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Can kill a lot at once

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Can also delete Bigs and Scouts with it in one shot.

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Slendo or Eva probably have more specific information on that but yeah, that’s the basic jist.

ocean spindle
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i mean no yeah thats about it its very very based

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on eeverything

shy folio
#

Any recommendations for weapons to bring in r1a1? I just started and I’m playing solo with bots to get used to the mechanics and everything and always end up failing at the extraction.

native sun
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Specifically for the bots:
If you want weapons that help them just kinda support and have lots of ammo:

  • Main: Burst Rifle
  • Special: Veruta MG

If you want weapons where they kill stuff fast but generally have lower ammo:

  • Main: Double Tap Rifle
  • Special: Burst Cannon
ocean spindle
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holy shit

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hey autopistol D:

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autopiss in support/lots of ammo its nice

dapper kestrel
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but with bots tho

glad sun
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I've found precision rifle and hel gun to be very hit or miss with bots

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Sometimes they murder everything in sight with laser precision, sometimes they waste 6 shots on a single enemy, but they do work sometimes so I don't feel like changing it

ocean spindle
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depends on what u want

ocean spindle
glad sun
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Agreed

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But sometimes Hackett decides to one tap an entire flyer wave by himself

civic wave
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sometimes bots miss 2 whole bursts on a striker 5 feet in front of them

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with burst cannon

ocean spindle
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usually i just have mg for the stagger and some crowd control

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plus lotta ammo

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they are kinda consistent with it?

glad sun
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If I'm playing with just bots, I got a little of everything

dapper kestrel
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oh I meant I dont think autopistol would be good to run yourself if with just bots. but I dont know too much about how bot runs go

ocean spindle
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usually main is just ur support unless u run sawed off and win, so autopiss can be sometimes be useful

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specially with good specials

upbeat epoch
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Do shotguns get reduce spread when aiming down sights?

flat oar
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no

upbeat epoch
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Is stagger damage effected by weak points?

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Like the back

flat oar
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yes? ig i seach wiki its definetly calculate weakpoint like head. but in pratical is also stagger by part break

ocean spindle
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i think that the only thing affecting the stagger is the enemys stagger hp and the multi of the gun ur using

tiny wyvern
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Doesn't like stagger damage depend on damage dealth

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And damage dealt increases when you hit weakpoints?

flat oar
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stagger dmg calculate after all dmg calculation

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[[Stagger Multiplier]]

gray rapidsBOT
runic roost
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tryna get controlled response, any pair and map thats best for it?

frail heart
frail heart
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and take sentry

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burst sentry

runic roost
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burst?

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ok

astral zodiac
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for the first and only alarm

flat oar
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2 alarms needed

frail heart
runic roost
astral zodiac
runic roost
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or not needed

astral zodiac
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it is not needed

runic roost
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never went thru the free door before lmao

frail heart
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though the first class 3 really isnt hard

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if you funnel through top door

runic roost
astral zodiac
flat oar
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mb i hate fog room

frail heart
frail heart
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so they spawn further away

runic roost
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mad tips

frail heart
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yur

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its 1 room vs 2

astral zodiac
runic roost
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no idea whats behind there actually so good change for once

flat oar
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controlled response r8b4 when

frail heart
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bruh

runic roost
astral zodiac
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that’s why it was a lil bit hard

runic roost
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woked ezy as hell thank youuu

burnt inlet
#

are smol doors more favourable for trip mines?

split ginkgo
safe cradle
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But from my point of view, it doesn't matter

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I assume it does if it's hybrid or giant but regardless it's the same for strikers and shooter

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as in, they die anyway

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You could argue big doors take longer to break (12 against 8 IIRC) so the enemies have more time to bunch up

burnt inlet
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i am currently on the giant/hybrid blood door rundown so

safe cradle
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I mean with a blood door you dont have a choice

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aside from not opening it or not using a mine at all

burnt inlet
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i mean youll know if one will have more enemies after mine

grizzled patrol
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usuaslly those have less props to place a tripmine facing the door

frail heart
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no small doors are 100% not more favourable

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big doors are much better and simpler to get value out of a mine from

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if you know how to place door mine on small doors in like mines tile sets then they can be very effective

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but in general big doors are much better

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also because they have more health

ocean lance
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you're just saying this cause you like big things

frail heart
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YES

ocean lance
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don't listen to his propaganda

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even if you're small you matter

frail heart
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dont worry im a one inch wonder

ocean lance
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one more than me

burnt inlet
#

chat im being gaslit by both parties lol

ocean spindle
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by the gas and the light?

burnt inlet
#

😭🙏

burnt inlet
hollow pollen
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I'm not telling

civic wave
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what level is that again

hollow pollen
#

R6C2 I thunk

burnt inlet
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R6C2

civic wave
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figures

ocean spindle
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does pen bug affect every enemy or is it only enemies with big hitboxes as giants

frail heart
#

every i think

safe cradle
ocean spindle
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okii thank u

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gonna put it in the hel gun/rifle page

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or maybe just the rifle

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hum

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nono in both

simple fable
#

any solutions for desync?

tiny wyvern
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If it's aussie forget about it

digital mural
simple fable
burnt inlet
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for R3B2 should i have foam + mines?

past mesa
simple fable
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Chargers doing weird perpendicular slide shows across rooms

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people seeing different versions

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Of enemies dying

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Enemies dying for some but not for others

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Chargers dead on one screen attacking on the other

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internet is 500mbps with me as a host, both upload and downlaod

haughty basin
#

why do people bring the hammer instead of spear like i don't get it

burnt inlet
# haughty basin why do people bring the hammer instead of spear like i don't get it

Spear you essentially crutch urself, hammer you can run with, it can kill same amount of stuff, it’s quicker charge time (prolly sum else im forgetting) whilst spear is slow, can’t run whilst charging and its only redeeming quality is length and high dmg (which hammer kinda has), when using spear you become used to the length and so it becomes more of a crutch than anything

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This is coming from a person who did R1 and half of R2 with spear and has since then switched (so much better)

hard nexus
tiny wyvern
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Most melees are fine if you know how to play around it

craggy pier
digital mural
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Me when i lie

tiny wyvern
# craggy pier literally anything > hammer

Hammer is the best all rounder most of the time
Knife is best at fast clearing, but requires good knowledge to use on bigs in general
Bat is better at bigs (stunlock), can still do fast clearing, can one shot locks without charge
Spear is best at stealth, but struggles sometimes at killing crowds solo

haughty basin
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like if you know what youre doing spear is OP but if you can't that means you don't know how to play

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like idk

digital mural
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Spear is only good in stealth (and it's still really slow)

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If you have to melee awake enemies youll be cooked

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Not being able to sprint while charging is a big deal

burnt inlet
#

I love to sprint into feelers whilst charging to backshot scouts

tiny wyvern
digital mural
#

Rundown 1 prob

tiny wyvern
#

It's true that at R1 and R2, you won't be getting crowds that require kiting to deal with yet

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And so spear is still good at crowd clearing is those scenarios

tiny wyvern
#

Yeah
Once you need to both run and kill things with melee spear becomes infinitely harder to use

digital mural
#

And after R3 it becomes more common

sudden nexus
#

knife supremacy 💪 💪 💪

haughty basin
haughty basin
#

like

digital mural
haughty basin
#

like

craggy pier
digital mural
#

I should do that more often

haughty basin
#

like

#

yw

digital mural
#

Thx for the tips

haughty basin
#

yw you should add me i can help you

craggy pier
burnt inlet
haughty basin
#

ive been playing for houras

digital mural
uneven gulchBOT
burnt inlet
digital mural
haughty basin
burnt inlet
#

Real

digital mural
#

I see LFG post i must .t lfg

haughty basin
#

and play smart

#

why

#

will you get in trouble if you dont

burnt inlet
#

Bacisly 100 giants rush u at once

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And only way to deal with them is to use the secret hammer superpower

digital mural
#

Just use scatter bro

haughty basin
#

if you wanna lose maybe

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like idk...

craggy pier
#

scatter is so bad idk the range is not worth it

haughty basin
#

same

#

liek idk

civic wave
burnt inlet
haughty basin
#

but in reality

#

where we are

#

that is NOT true

burnt inlet
#

🤷‍♂️

#

Maybe you’re not doing it quick enough

haughty basin
#

whatever that means

digital mural
#

Moth
You are falling for it

haughty basin
#

like why would i need to do that when i could use spear

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and not even worry about all that

#

like

burnt inlet
haughty basin
civic wave
haughty basin
#

falling for what im literally trying to have a discussion about my new fav game

#

im gonna post on my tumblr later

#

about it

digital mural
#

Idk who is Carlos Santana

craggy pier
haughty basin
digital mural
#

This reminds me a lot of the bots Twitch streamer we got a couple months ago

haughty basin
#

Who

#

??

#

the crickets

civic wave
#

the top 250 cod online player?

#

who subsequently got his account compromised and sent me a phishing link

digital mural
#

You remember it

haughty basin
#

did you click on it

#

cuz tbh I wouldn't

digital mural
#

Too bad his community is like

burnt inlet
digital mural
#

1000 bots

craggy pier
civic wave
haughty basin
#

girl what

civic wave
haughty basin
craggy pier
haughty basin
burnt inlet
digital mural
haughty basin
digital mural
#

I dislike botters

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Or however are they called

haughty basin
civic wave
#

in plain english - you're not funny

haughty basin
#

to you cuz youre a mean girl

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like come on now

digital mural
#

We need a baiter tier list

#

I know Sleepyboi is like S tier

burnt inlet
civic wave
#

part of me hopes this is beep mm on alt accounts but i do not think beep mm would have this many stickers

haughty basin
#

im not baiting im innocent like i just wanted to come and collaborate with everyone

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but this place is so mean and cruel to me for no reason

#

like i don't get it...

burnt inlet
craggy pier
#

we are still looking for 2 brave strong men to carry us limp-wristed sissies through r1a1 in vc #999

haughty basin
digital mural
burnt inlet
crystal blaze
tiny wyvern
#

somehow this feels familiar

#

...Oh well, the chats are alive again now I guess

crystal blaze
digital mural
crystal blaze
#

Love you, boo!

burnt inlet
crystal blaze
#

LMAO, that deleted chat was crazy

digital mural
#

I can see deleted messages

worthy sandal
#

Imagine delete ur own message🫃

ocean spindle
#

saw it too

craggy pier
burnt inlet
crystal blaze
#

There are a lot of red-faced, white people here (aka only me)

haughty basin
digital mural
crystal blaze
#

ME

crystal blaze
#

I’M IN CHAT

haughty basin
#

you just made that up

worthy sandal
craggy pier
haughty basin
#

when

digital mural
haughty basin
#

ouu gag it

#

😭

#

what i do

crystal blaze
haughty basin
#

OMG

#

have mercy please

#

omg

craggy pier
#

why is everyone bullying yimyum rn wtf

crystal blaze
#

Nah bro, you’re getting fished no matter what

burnt inlet
#

God I love this community

crystal blaze
#

It’s over

haughty basin
#

im gonna put my phone somewhere and put it on vibrate and feel the reactions

#

omg

crystal blaze
#

You’re cooked

haughty basin
#

OMG

ocean spindle
#

man i love fish

crystal blaze
#

Fish

haughty basin
#

what kind

#

salmon is my favorite

digital mural
#

Guys dont spam reactions

haughty basin
#

like

digital mural
#

You can get rate limited by discord

haughty basin
#

gag them

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
digital mural
#

And won't be able to talk for a bit

haughty basin
#

period

#

yall better listen

ocean spindle
#

then im going to sleep

haughty basin
ocean spindle
#

i get fish prevented smh

haughty basin
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have a good sleep

digital mural
craggy pier
burnt inlet
digital mural
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It's an anti spam system

burnt inlet
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Yep

digital mural
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Without it discord would shit itself daily

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(more than it already does)