#gtfo-related-questions
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R6 or R1 is always the play, r3 is a little too hard even for having 3 a tier
3-4 implies the existence of a fourth
it can be done with 4
but its not ideal
ok sure fine i just mean its more beneficial to just play other shit other than banging your head against literally one of the worst maps in the game
bio does fuck all and they are just starting even more so
unless they take sniper sentry i guess
u dont know its one of the worst maps until u actually play more maps tho
but u dont need one
It's not that bad
theres the take "bio does fuck all"
aaa
i knew it
are you seriously saying r1c1 isnt that bad
It's boring but it teaches you setup is important
it is fucking terrible
compared to r3b1 which u play AFTER u know whats happening
r1c1 at least has the plus of being an introduction to something
and tbh most newies i see playing it do get stuck but end up likin it for being a change of pace on the game
R6D1 reactor with tank for newbies will be a mess
R6 C tiers can actually be difficult
i, dont agree, cuz the tank happens at the last wave and the reactors right on ur side, with the first wave being fine apart from having a checkpoint
We are talking about the perspective of a new person
Ignore all your previous knowledge
depends on what u mean
its not as bad as 5b4
but pretty difficult to stay awake thats for sure
it’s just better to get them to skip to r6 imo
in my copypaste i now just say R1/R6 to give the option
im speaking broadly but the amount of new players that instinctively start at r1 then get stuck on c1 then say this is a shit game and forget about it is so maddening
Thats honestly their problem
Is a knife with +54% damage strong enough to kill a scout without occiput?
Just use hammer bro
LOL
If they can't make a simple reactor and give up easily i don't see them doing much later on the game
i mean its about first impressions, they're gonna think the whole game is like that
facts
or one shot giant body parts for stagger?
scout is x3 front right
For the head, yes
and it doesnt get the sleeping bonus or does it
with 2 hours u barely complete b1
only a1 if u do the tutorial
the math on gtfo is so tiring
idk if the scout counts as asleep when walkin but if it does i think a 50% does it
Isnt there a section on each page with the math already done?
How much damage does what and that stuff
uhhh would be cool seeing it
Well, theres an idea for the new wiki
5.5 × 1.54 = ?
(The number you care about is hitting 15 for giant limb break)
well i say "would be cool" as in rn but a calculator would just be better
but also harder to code
8.47 is definitely not 15 rip
then again, stagger is probably long enough for 2 hits
Kinda but not really
Big thing that +54% actually does is mean you don't need backstab multi (just back multi)
Which makes limb break much easier from behind
Everything gets 2x from behind (back multi)
Knife specifically gets an extra 1.7x (backstab multi)
But backstab multi and back multi have different criteria so sometimes it is hard to stack them
2 turrets, sniper, shotgun, them a bio and a creamer
we are defending in the reactor room
we can put it in very quickly
we have afast typer on our team
yeahhh u can put away that foam and shotgun sentry for 2 burst turrets
is burst turret meta
and even if u have a fast typer defending in the reactor is bad
how much explanation would you like on why cfoam/creamer is bad for reactors
where else would we defend
and mine and foam are AMAZING but not for reactors
Read the copypasta i sent
as much as youll allow me brody
ahead, preferably on the bridge
burst sentry is generally the staple pick, and best into regular enemies
Theres everything You need to know there
.
can i get an explanation?
Yeah its saved on my clipboard
Need atleast +70% for this and whatever a IIX Syringe is
hilarious
back multi depends on the angle of the enemy with u, and on stagger animations it remains the same
backstab sort of does the same but rotates with ur actual position with the stagger, so if the big does a 180 u will only get backstab and not the x2 back multi
do you know this from previous knowledge or have you read the code yourself?
AND?
AND
lmao
that's weird
70% dmg plus a x3 boost
no, no, that's it
yeah, but u can also take advantage of it by hitting mid stagger with ur hammer on front and still dealing the same dmg
knife is the only one that actively suffers from the animation, and not cuz of the back multi but its own
nvm, 70% without syringe is good
my bad
so ig if I don't roll giant turn animation I'll still get 2 multis?
good advice, thanks guys
if u need help on anything else u can always ask
gaming
believe so yes
aight
so, reactor spawns run off a few principles
firstly, each wave always spawns the same amount of enemies, and these spawns get queued up. if you kill the enemies so quickly, you'll have a lot of down time. if you kill the enemies very slowly, the game will be unable to spawn all of them at once and you'll be spending a lot of time to clear the spawn cap (when there's ~25-30 enemies, alarms/reactors can't spawn the next wave in until there's space to do so)
because of this, it's advantageous to delay putting the reactor code in to give yourself additional time (enemies only spawn during the high intensity test phase, not the verification phase or warmup phase) to clear the spawn cap and find resources
I won't go fully into the reactor spawn mechanics, but the enemies will spawn 2 rooms away from the player who is furthest from reactor. You can push up and hold in an area with resources and send someone back to input code near the end of waves, this gives you easier access to resources and a bit more cover
i think that's all i really need to say, but can elaborate that because cfoam does not kill enemies, it's not very useful in reactors - the goal is to kill all the enemies as quickly as possible rather than delaying them (because the enemies get queued and you'll have to deal with them regardless)
goat explainng why it isnt like a security door type deal
so it's much preferred to take a turret over any other tool - though biotracker always provides value by giving you information (and sniper sentry symbiosis, meaning that the turret locks onto targets faster, shoots faster, and uses less ammo on biotracked enemies)
ill prolly take bio+sniper if I dont have a third
but yeah 4 burst turrets understood🫡
4 lol
the fourth sentry doing nothing:
Its for emotional support
hey i was wondering on why recently i feel like I've been seeing more hel autos sentries in speedruns. Has something changed?
HEL Auto receives back damage
just did r5c2 in matchmaking
Did you get a good team at least?
very
the only part where we almost wiped was one of the alarms to the cell
all purple scans with shadows
reactor and overload were a cakewalk
jademodo joined on code 6
then he had to go
The carry left
In game testing + decompiled game code
See https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier for more
whats a good solo gear setup? cause i use pistol, shotgun, c-foam andsledgehammer
True solo?
Or bot solo?
bot solo
cfoam, mine and sentry are fine for you
Unless you're stealthing shadows, bio should be for bots cause they're infinitely better at it than you are
Most specials and mains are fine so long as they're appropriate for the level in the first place
And sledge is the best all rounder for melees
Bots would want weapons like burst rifle and burst cannon as they are good with them
Lower cooldown on ping and much further range
ok
Bot solo-wise do keep in mind that there are currently three(Maybe one by now) that are only theoretically doable
thanks for the info
They're really far back on the list tho
So I wouldn't worry too much about them for the mometn
like r7 and r8 or something?
@wild flare He'll know this better
but yeah im still in r1 so itll take me a bit
If you have questiosn we can answer them
But just so you know bot soloing without good skill is hell
And you will suffer a lot
yeah i figured that out just from the first two stages
We have lfg here for the levels you can't do, if you mostly enjoy soloing treat it as a last resort
I hope you do
...Cause if you're struggling with R1 already this game might burn you out quicker than most
What is this “Long kiting” I hear about every now and then?
You run the enemies around
Like around around
You make them chase you and just run away?
Yes
To make distance so you can either plan what to do next or just shoot them without them hitting you
Just so I understand, where did you hear this from?
Saw it in the caption of multiple videos, most recently #gtfo-media message
Oh yeah then it's the vet's definition of it
Which is what i said
Most of the time you don't need to do that
Cause... well, if you don't know the layouts of this game well, you'll just die
Ok sick, thank you
This shit killed me 🤣🤣🤣
Long kiting usually mean luring enemies super far away, usually without killing them to buy you time to do scans and such
In a normal game you usually do that if you are the only left alive and theres a massive horde following you
Yeah but you guys can dodge tongues like it’s CoD zombies, right?
How to dodge:
Make one side step
Do you know how many hours i have in cod zombies
10k?
2?
Holy craaaaaaaap
Dude I played Black Ops 2 zombies with some people awhile ago and I was like “this is kinda brain dead. I wish I was playing GTFO”.
R7e1 near impossible with bots, r8 idk, i am at r8b4 and this lvl is hard af
r8 can be done
Thats reassuring
With this, how long does it normally take to beat the first 2 stages and stuff
@wild flare probably would be able to tell you more accurately
But... Well, for four people teams it takes about half-hour to 45 min
For solos first clears a bit more
But only a bit
R1A1 and R1B1 aren't that complex and solo with bots usually isn't much different from 4 manning
(except for the resource management part)
With bots you will spend more than 1h on almost every lvl, some can take 2h+, my record was 3h 20 mins xd, althought half of hour i was afk
yeah but not rlly r1a1 or b1 right
It's usually under an hour if you stick it close
(It could easily be over it if you play it really safe)
Since i was new i am pretty sure i spend more than a 1h on those, cause i explored almost all zones, crouch stealth gaming etc
Damn I’m really slow then
It took like 3 hours on the first stage of r1
It didn’t really help that I didn’t know how comms work for bots
What does it mean when players type numbers in chat matchmaking lobby? I.e. 1 2 3 4 5
Thanks
testing ping
if its shit u wont see your message send instantly
Ever had it just... not appear at all?
yes thats how it works
After a Solid munite yes
Mb for the bad host🥴
Must be tough living on Mars 
actually im living on the destination 
What was the tentacle enemy at the end of the 2017 supposed to be?
you mean the trailer?
That guy doesn't exist
Snatcher
We have a snatcher now, but it's different
Yeah
It doesnt exist
tentacle......
We don't know
we were robbed
reminds of that emp hybrid in modded
I saw some concept art from snatchers and they did have some sort of tentacle, still maybe not the same enemy
in the gif it looks so avoidable too lol
Getting licked by an offscreen giant 
sniper melee was crazy back then
im pretty sure it is not the snatcher, the snatchers another thing apart from the tentacle
technically speakin, thats the snatcher, and what we have is the pouncer
or maybe idk
if i had to guess, that’s the (scrapped) tentacle trap
The difference between the snatcher concepts is largely superficial.
Tentacle trap?
what else could that possibly mean
Im actually happy there isnt anything like that in the game rn
Tentacle that traps you
CRAZY, I wonder if there's anything like that in the current build of the game.
spitters but they pull you towards them
Now that would be funny
In the trailer they mentioned something about looking up once in a while
Snatcher ye
But at least is very predictable
The amount of words i dont understand here is intimidating
Drg cave leech
Yeah Basically lol
That would be "fun" when going through dense rooms
pablo
gets pulled into the warm embrace of pablo

oh i do have a gtfo related question actually
:O
:O
:O
:O
who named him pablo?
uh yes
I hope we will get a behind the scenes commentary from gtfo someday, i love seeing old concepts and scrapped content
[theres a 10 min video in the 10c channel]
O
if i search for the oldest message with "pablo" after 2021 i get ryk asking if Ptank stands for pablo tank and then a video of a e1 completion with the thumbnal sayin "pablo"
the more you know
piano
ok i got a glitch that i was finally able to recreate. so first this is not modded pure vanilla. it is a glitch where any and all naturally spawning enemies in a level, this includes any and all sleepers, strikers, giants, scouts and any naturally spawning enemies not related to an alarm door. i do not know if this applies to sleeping bosses because both rundowns levels that i managed to achieve this on do not have ay sleeper bosses. i first did this on R7C3 the infamous no ammo level so I this is how it went i solo with 3 bots starts the decent and while descending my friend joined mid drop and then as soon as the drop stopped there was a massive lag spike i am talking while the pod is faced towards that hole we came down it froze for like 15 seconds then me and my friend spawned. i take out my bio tracker and no enemies where in the first room and i thought that was weird but moved to the second room no enemies again then i try to ping the two striker scouts in the two adjacent rooms and there is nothing so we go through and try beat the level we get to the timed evvent where your supposed to stealth through scouts and giants to get access to suplies of cource there were no enemies then we end up dead on the following defence section. we respawn at a checkpoint and none of the enemies are spawned in still. now i thoughts that what caused the glitch was a person joining as the level fully loads in because you typically get frame drops while droping due to the level loading in so the friend joing caused the game to freak out when decideing the order of events adn forgot to spawn in the enemies. but just now not playing on my normal pc but my labtop that does not run gtfo perfect but playable with reduced graphics and it happed again compleatly solo no friend on R2E1
no enemies spawned and only things like the surge alarms and blood doors casue enemies to spawn. i figues i should bring this up because i ahve asked about this once or twice and everone said that it was probobly a hackd or modded loby wich it is not. the second reason i wanted to bring this up is that it could revoulutionize the any% speedruns of missions imagin any dificult mission with zero sleeping enemies and scouts all gone. just wanted to see if this is a known bug or something compleatly new. dought it but hey i dont see anyone talking about it and for such a big bug i figured it would be patched in the final update that came out a bit a go but nope. plz anyone share any info you know about this
You also have a sleeping enemy dmg multiplier for giants and occiput.
only for knife
Monka Wall of Text 
Oh yeah it is defo known. Late Drops are banned in speeds (glitchless) so it is very rare to See that Happening. Happened to me a couple of Times, and we have Just restarted the level
Usually tho with early drop bug everything catches up bc host is sending data
I've never seen what cole described
Then again I dont speedrun
But I often join mid-run games and sometimes joined middrop
Some glitches/bug are extremely rare due to specific circumstances
Hell theres some that are pretty easy to get but most people wouldnt know about without being told
(See the uplink drop issue, early drop bug, freeze bug)
Or smth like the checkpoint insta objective finish
Or that trick to open that R6AX sec door at the end
But even some stuff I've seen at least once
Like [IP_ADDRESS] instead of the IP or whatnot
Or Scout bombing or whatever it's called
I've never seen, nor even on video, the "enemies didnt spawn/all died on level drop".
(I'm not doubting it may exist)
Yea
Some stuff only gets found per chance (hell the r6ax thing was found by friends of mine randomly playing r6 without me)
Ive heard of it happening before
It might just be a thing as rare as kraken death
i like to think it was like a newie that was learning how to play and suddenly just
"oh the doors open!! let's go!"
and u there with a shocked face

sadly not quite
they didnt full clear gtfo, but everything aside from r4e1, r5e1, r8d2 and e2
Its actually an old school friend of mine
Yeah, I found out that knife backstab on their limbs actually does 1 shot them. You can full stealth a giant with a knife, really tight window though.
It's really hard when giants stagger spin into walls.
does anyone have tips for R2E1? me and my friend are stuck on it
get gud

Where are you stuck on?
What exactly is giving you troubles?
What are your loadouts? (Tools/guns)
how are you preparing for what you are struggling with?
You can stealth even with no boosters and 3 stabs, 1 occiput 2 in the back, but it takes a bit of skill and finesse.
You need at least 5 hits with knife to kill a giant
Yeah, yesterday I practicing it, got off several stealth giant kills with the knife.
Fun but also scary
Oh, ok. This just proves my memory isn't the best in some situations.
we have 2 boths using hel relvolver and burst cannon, he uses pdw and combat shotgun i use sawed off and precsion rifle we typically die on the 2nd surge alarm from hybrids
Ikr
we use mine cfoam shotgun turret and bio
kidnap 2 more friends and make them shoot the hybrids
3 sentries 1 bio is very good, but I'd rather get something else other than a CS in R2E1, and I say that as someone who picks CS often
what would be best burst sniper or hel?
Moreover, you might want a player and not a bot to be on hybrid duty
HEL Rifle, burst cannon are both fine against hybrids imho
sniper 100%. great against shadow giants 
Hybrids get staggered easily when they're charging their barrage btw
but i wouldnt be able to see them would i? 😭
then look harder 
but im blind i see through my fingers
Not going to lie (and I dont want to offend you), if you're stuck there you wont like what's after that part
that sounds good lmao 😭
if ur doing it in order, my advice would be don't bother, go to r3
As sleepo has said you have pretty subpar waveclear and giant clear with the precision rifle. Id probably swap that out
Also… dont use the shotgun sentry. And realistically skip foam
The most important thing tho, try skipping r2e1. That part isnt even remotely where its hard yet and theres no reason to hit your head against a brickwall (r2e1 is about 4th to 6th hardest in the game, r2d2 for example isnt even close)
I'll be sincere I'd even skip mines
even for blood doors?
mines still have a pretty decent effect for a typical clear. 3 sentries also mean you need to know how to use them
Is it going to be harder there? Yes. Is it going to be easier later with 3 sentries? Yes.
Realistically if you are stuck on 2nd surge of r2e1 you should just skip it
Gives you time to improve while having more fun in the next dozen levels
2 players 2 bots really wont help in the last part either
Just skip to R3, you can clear that 100% with 2-2
Anything there is way easier than R2E1
alright thank you for the suggestions y'all 🙂
Yo, i heard the sniper got nerfed since i last played, how do u kill scouts without it?
Also the levels make no sense what order should u do them in
Precision rifle, hel rifle
mele
Some do it in R1 to R8 ordder
Some pub/matchmake so randomly
Up to you at the end of the day
You'll suffer either way
Whether or not you want someone else to suffer with you by playing levels out of your league is up to you as well
or r1 > r3 > r6> r2> r7 > r4 > r5 > r8 kinda
Im with friends
As for scout kills, hammer and spear kill with a full charge to the head
Knife and bat kill with a backhead hit full charge
melee
melee
(any of the other 9 guns that can kill scouts with 1 shot)
melee
Then try to coordinate with them on what level to do I suppose?
wdym they dont make sense
?
Actually does sawed off kill scouts?
It can even kill cscout
Whats the lore order or smthing
it has 30 dmg... so yes
R1 to R8
Is lore order
Chornologically
What about difficulty order
Tonmai said it
lore order would be
R1-R6
R7 (roughly around the same time as R6)
and then R8
from easiest (left) to hardest (right)
R1>R3>R2/R6>R4/R7>R5/R8
but this matters less since difficulty is still based on the tiers (aside from R8) for the main objectives (aka A tier = A tier)
As are usually the easiest and Es are usually the hardest
If you go for full PEs I believe the order changes?
Slightly?
yeah true
Why lol wont the As get boring if u have to do more difficult ones before them and wont the hard ones be too hard to do if ur going 1 to 8
R5 is especially high because the optionals elevate the early levels a lot for example
No
The rundowns get progressively more complex as you go on
And from R4 onwards As usually have side objectives
That make them harder
It usually even things out
A tiers generally wont be an issue for boredom as you will clear them in a matter of minutes and can play them very aggressively (also later on theres some lore)
for hard ones, kinda. Its usually recommended to Skip R2E1 (4th to 6th hardest level) until you comfortably clear stuff like R4C3PE or D tier optionals.
But its also not unusual to skip R2D1 and/or R2D2 as R3 introduces their objectives in an easier manner in their A tiers)
At the end of the day, play how you (and your team) want
If you're stuck somewhere, feel free to skip to another rundown first then come back
Wich qre the 9 weapons
hel rifle
prec rifle
choke mod
high cal
burst cannon
scattergun (low range)
shotgun (low range)
sawed off (low range)
slug shotgun
Revolver technically also can but needs occi shot(?)
Tru's old spreadsheet is still here somewhere
lots more can kill with occi
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_YpsPCclnYXiLGaSlCp4efNewkwHUG-RukGpJKdQEnI/edit?gid=1904836397#gid=1904836397
I still have it in my bookmarks so that's nice
With the higher hp scouts what weapons/strats would one use?
The spreadsheet also has cscout numbers
C foam or scatter for consistent kills on charger scouts I think
Scattergun and BC
sniper
backshot sniper pls
Ooh BC, does it need back or does front work too
Backshots 🔥
gone wrong 😳
God i love backshots 🥰 nothing fills my heart with joy more than shooting giants in the back with my sawed off 🥰
Can also choke mod it if you spam hard enough I think
yeah, or be client
Average GTFO moment
You can spam still on host and make it can't you?
It's just inconsistent
Yeah you can two shot a charger scout with choke mod and it fires fast enough that it's doable
hence me not including occi or multi shots
Though there are definitely way better options
c-scout is 30dmg and up at least
for back dmg kill
Wait does that mean choke mod can oneshot to the back if all pellets hit?
its not
yes
It's not?
So I can sawed off them from behind?
you can full mag dump in less than 0.1
Oh yeah well that makes sense then
Fair enough
yes
(even from front if you do 2-3 shots well placed)
world's fastest short rifle user rejoices
Just to be sure next time I see them I’ll dump a mag from behind lol
try 3 back shots with revolver
Storm trooper aim
You should watch me consistently miss heads because my mouse keeps dropping my inputs 
I need a new one
Or alerting a feeler because my melee releases early
So fun
🙃
Keep in mind lore wise Storm Troopers were part of the elite military force of the empire and were actual competent at their job
Too bad the main characters have plot armor
tbf in the og movies some of the plot armor is laid down to vader not wanting them killed
Yeah
*movie storm trooper aim
That too
then you get the stuff like han being potentially guided by the force (his insane luck) according to the books
and luke and leia, well obviously
I thought it was lore accurate that they can't aim because they can't see out of their helmets well
they are generally highly effective
the first scene in ep 4 shows that
they roll over the rebells
if you are told not to kill you wont
especially if the order comes from THE vader
But have free shots on everyone else
Nowdays a lot of media shows them as straight up dumb and regarded
I hate it
Crazy i know
The drone soldiers were funny
Even though storm troopers were better, they were funnier
droids?
Yeah
I have read one star wars book, so idk a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff when my knowledge is purely from the movies
I read a ton of the pre disney era stuff
The droids were great though
clone wars droids are goated
What do experienced players make of the Burst Pistol, Slug Shotty and Short Rifle, now that they've been out for a while?
they're overhated
burst pistol is decently cracked
vanilla is mostly striker spam so they perform decently
(insert obligatory autos are shit opinion)
slug is mid (very fixable issues)
burst pistol is meh
short rifle is bad unless you wanna go cracko aim, in which case its meh
do u guys think we will ever see who the warden is
Isn’t it the giant alien?
The virus is technically an alien
Id suggest going to #gtfo-lore as there is where the lore master exists
Not sure about this tbh
edited message ⛓️💥 💔
No
Game already ended
aw man
Was the kraken the giant alien?
And we dont know if it has a phyisical body
We just know he is part of the Collectors
they shoiuld have added loot crates and a battle pass before ending the game
yes but not the warden
Kraken and fliers are
i wnat to touch the warden
Its not that typa game (also not everything has to be Fortnite/overwatch
legendary sleeper skin
sleeper tua
Is it like a ”mothership little ship” relation between them?
I guess
Play with bots, gamble if you can beat r1a1
The Kraken is like a super carrier
Sorta like an aircraft carrier?
Yes
Insane conclusion
Throw yourself off KDS Deep
Genius take
Do it
how coincidental that gtfo adds a second g
No balls
Mods, retract his freedom of speech
have u guys seen the videos on how to get huzz
and its a guy going into a mental health server threatening to khms
i saw the video bro its insane
nvm i also take back the hawk tua conclusion that hawk tua from a sleeper would be bad

those who h awkta 💀 👲
how the hell do you duo r1b2 without bots
Skill and knowledge of the game, mostly
me and a friend have been struggling on it for days, we can do the entire thing until the end, we die in extraction
extract is funnily enough super chill if you play it differently
instead of killing the sleeping shooters in the hsu zone
If it's your first time playing through try to at least do it with bots
They do help more often than you think
bots my beloved
Duoing is miles better than soloing but it's not a cakewalk
Sneak past (at least the ones in B and C (and D for 21 iirc) and aggro them on the way out
They are pretty harmless on extract and slow
Altho shooting extract with 2 sentries isnt rly too tough either doing it the normal way
we want to do it without bots if possible
Why?
enjoy the challenge
what tools do u have?
bio and sentry
Poor bots
what kinda sentry?
bio is based alright both r based
good tool :D
maybs for a duo the one sentry is straining but oh well
For R1B2 anyways
I suppose get better at stealthing giants and rooms, don't do too much extra rooms?
considering r1b2
2 of 3 alarms are singular direction and SUUPER far away spawns
Only the third has 2 sided spawns, but also far away spawns.
Bio is not rly worth in a duo for this one over an extra sentry
Bio is an insanely valuable tool. But funnily enough loses value the lower the player count
Its nice for stealth, but realistically you dont wanna be dependent on it to stealth even remotely well
ok so leaving enemies alive in hsu zone so not as many spawn at the extract point?
as well as a second sentry
its 1 way go about it
But its moreso a smart strat rather than a way to improve yourself
And R1C1 is gonna need that HARD
idk it just feels like theres nothing else we can do
we do the same thing every time and it never works
Are you running out of ammo?
nope
Or tool or smth?
overrun likely
yeah overrun is what happens
pistol and precision
which can be
- wrong tool
- wrong tool useage
- bad guns
- bad gun useage
- bad aim
- bad dodging/movement/stagger
a mix of the above
What about the other guy?
same
thats a big factor in why then
oh no
You arent both running precision for the thermal are you?
no more for the single shot kill on small enemies
thermal is nice for me since im holding sentry
Me when flashlights exist
plus it takes care of shooter giants pretty quick
Use a shotgun
ok step 1
Get rid of bio (at least in a duo no bots) and the thermals.
And get used to stealthing entirely without (there are guides for this if you struggle with it)
Or burst cannon
that being said, every other weapon i've tried just hasn't felt nice or burns through ammo like crazy
step 2
2 sentries and slightly better wave clear and you should be gucci on r1b2
for a1 and b1 we didn't use bio
Are you spamming them/ using autos?
or thermal
Which… barely show up
zone 19 for us one time had 5 shooter giants
Honestly change prec rifle for a shotgun
Like you may see 1-2 every 10 runs
I think you mean normal giants
Why go to zone 19
Its entirely optionals and unnecessary
Not the chickens
No
the giants w/ spikes that shot
Chickens
they mean chickens (big shooters)
Is 19 just a zone that has chickens?
as opposed to the ones with the hussy that have the tentacle
19 is only for res which there should be plenty of with 2 of you
we never need to go to 19
they 1. arent a threat anyway (melee them)
and 2. only rly show up in zone 19
They can super rarely show up in the rest of the level. But its rare rare
rare like the meat
What
Hel rifle could be useful for you if you want to one shot enemies
pistol is fine, but you really want something that can kill things faster on duos i assume?
Pistol's more for stagger
pistol kills it just has stagger on top of it, like hel shotgun
Yeah i suppose so
ammo also rly shouldnt be scarce in r1b2 duo typically
unless you are running like… 2 snipers
thats more of a matter of good aim and recognizin patters to waste less ammo i guess
player shooting to enemies that move side to side:
D:
I mean you can also use mg (Pls don't crucify me) and let the bullet spam help you a bit with the crowd control
so you get less waves
hell in the speedrun we fight like 2 alarm waves over 3 alarms
Pistol is good at killing if headshot, right?
It’s just dependent on the player never missing?
nah its way more forgiving than that, pistol kills in a headshot + 2 bodyshots
it defo benefits of course but the best for pistol is bodyshot, headshot, bodyshot as it staggers with every single bullet
something like rifle is the same but with less ammo + its other benefits- so its a little more punishing, a lil
Ah
and then dmr is actually more punishing
Yeah DMR I usually body, then head.
Mostly because I suck at hitting sleeper heads in the first shot
Shooters though,
I get those guys in the first shot and it makes me hyper happy.
i just wait to the running-in-a-straight-line thing
for strikers
if not i shove if it gets too close
and kill it with whatev my special is as i like shotgun with dmr
:D
I like dmr with machine gun
Thinking of switching to basic pump though for my special when we do recon runs
But with like Hel Rifle I always pick Carbine.
mg is usually just my default for whatev i go for main, but for dmr i probs would pick sumn with no charge up
[or minimal]
Right cuz need “oh shit gun”
Also ammo efficiency is pretty bad if you run like DMR and Hel Rifle. Unless you never miss I guess.
hel rifle is pretty good on ammo eff- tbh theres just sort of a point where u dont worry about it so much
idk i play usually just guns i like to play but im not one to try challenge guns like dmr prec rifle or so
i wanna b balanced on some way
Same here. Unless you disagree with the two loadouts I mentioned.
If you shoot them when they clump
Can kill a lot at once
Can also delete Bigs and Scouts with it in one shot.
Slendo or Eva probably have more specific information on that but yeah, that’s the basic jist.
Any recommendations for weapons to bring in r1a1? I just started and I’m playing solo with bots to get used to the mechanics and everything and always end up failing at the extraction.
If you want the easy-to-pick-up strong weapons:
- Main: Carbine / Sawed Off
- Special: High Cal Pistol / HEL Rifle / Combat Shotgun / Shotgun
If you want the strongest weapon but which typically have a steeper learning curve:
- Main: HEL Revolver / HEL Shotgun
- Special: HEL Gun / Scattergun / Burst Cannon
Specifically for the bots:
If you want weapons that help them just kinda support and have lots of ammo:
- Main: Burst Rifle
- Special: Veruta MG
If you want weapons where they kill stuff fast but generally have lower ammo:
- Main: Double Tap Rifle
- Special: Burst Cannon
but with bots tho
I've found precision rifle and hel gun to be very hit or miss with bots
Sometimes they murder everything in sight with laser precision, sometimes they waste 6 shots on a single enemy, but they do work sometimes so I don't feel like changing it
for bots just mg and burst rifle, or burst cannon
depends on what u want
sometimes is not a good metric
sometimes bots miss 2 whole bursts on a striker 5 feet in front of them
with burst cannon
usually i just have mg for the stagger and some crowd control
plus lotta ammo
they are kinda consistent with it?
If I'm playing with just bots, I got a little of everything
oh I meant I dont think autopistol would be good to run yourself if with just bots. but I dont know too much about how bot runs go
autopiss for bots i mean. autopiss its just usually good in general specially by the pierce, and for levels with for example- chargers- is nice
usually main is just ur support unless u run sawed off and win, so autopiss can be sometimes be useful
specially with good specials
Do shotguns get reduce spread when aiming down sights?
no
yes? ig i seach wiki its definetly calculate weakpoint like head. but in pratical is also stagger by part break
i believe it is independent from damage, but damage CAN apply a limb break faster which results in a long stagger
i think that the only thing affecting the stagger is the enemys stagger hp and the multi of the gun ur using
Doesn't like stagger damage depend on damage dealth
And damage dealt increases when you hit weakpoints?
tryna get controlled response, any pair and map thats best for it?
r1b1 with Hel Revolver and either HiCal or Revolver
tq boss
2 alarms needed
na
2 and 3
no
or not needed
it is not needed
never went thru the free door before lmao
It shouldnt be but lazy :D
doing the second one alone is a pain the ass
mb i hate fog room
its not that bad with the right setup
also before doing class 2 open the free sec door
so they spawn further away
I remember doing three trophies at the same time
controlled response
the biotracker one
the no flashlight one😭
no idea whats behind there actually so good change for once
controlled response r8b4 when
bruh
beuh
that’s why it was a lil bit hard
yep
woked ezy as hell thank youuu
are smol doors more favourable for trip mines?
Imo yes
There's an image, somewhere, in gtfo-media with range and damage falloff of mines
But from my point of view, it doesn't matter
I assume it does if it's hybrid or giant but regardless it's the same for strikers and shooter
as in, they die anyway
You could argue big doors take longer to break (12 against 8 IIRC) so the enemies have more time to bunch up
i am currently on the giant/hybrid blood door rundown so
I mean with a blood door you dont have a choice
aside from not opening it or not using a mine at all
i mean youll know if one will have more enemies after mine
Yes, unless it is the datacentre/lab tilesets
usuaslly those have less props to place a tripmine facing the door
no small doors are 100% not more favourable
big doors are much better and simpler to get value out of a mine from
if you know how to place door mine on small doors in like mines tile sets then they can be very effective
but in general big doors are much better
also because they have more health
you're just saying this cause you like big things
YES
dont worry im a one inch wonder
chat im being gaslit by both parties lol
by the gas and the light?
😭🙏
#gtfo-media message @hollow pollen lemme guess during secondry they burt into babies?
I'm not telling
what level is that again
R6C2 I thunk
R6C2
figures
every blob spawns a mom
does pen bug affect every enemy or is it only enemies with big hitboxes as giants
every i think
I think it just is an error because the same body's limb gets "hit" so it doesn't matter and should affect every enemy
okii thank u
gonna put it in the hel gun/rifle page
or maybe just the rifle
hum
nono in both
any solutions for desync?
Which part of the world are you in?
If it's aussie forget about it
Better connection
we're all relatively close by, in europe
for R3B2 should i have foam + mines?
What level
R4C3
Chargers doing weird perpendicular slide shows across rooms
people seeing different versions
Of enemies dying
Enemies dying for some but not for others
Chargers dead on one screen attacking on the other
internet is 500mbps with me as a host, both upload and downlaod
why do people bring the hammer instead of spear like i don't get it
Spear you essentially crutch urself, hammer you can run with, it can kill same amount of stuff, it’s quicker charge time (prolly sum else im forgetting) whilst spear is slow, can’t run whilst charging and its only redeeming quality is length and high dmg (which hammer kinda has), when using spear you become used to the length and so it becomes more of a crutch than anything
This is coming from a person who did R1 and half of R2 with spear and has since then switched (so much better)
Because it's better. But a lot of cracked players in mm doing fine with spear. So don't worry about it?
Most melees are fine if you know how to play around it
Spear is bad
literally anything > hammer
Me when i lie
Hammer is the best all rounder most of the time
Knife is best at fast clearing, but requires good knowledge to use on bigs in general
Bat is better at bigs (stunlock), can still do fast clearing, can one shot locks without charge
Spear is best at stealth, but struggles sometimes at killing crowds solo
spear = S+ weapon
like if you know what youre doing spear is OP but if you can't that means you don't know how to play
like idk
Sadly no
Spear is only good in stealth (and it's still really slow)
If you have to melee awake enemies youll be cooked
Not being able to sprint while charging is a big deal
I love to sprint into feelers whilst charging to backshot scouts
Yeah
...Just curious, how far are you into the game?
Rundown 1 prob
It's true that at R1 and R2, you won't be getting crowds that require kiting to deal with yet
And so spear is still good at crowd clearing is those scenarios
R2C2 and above do tho
Yeah
Once you need to both run and kill things with melee spear becomes infinitely harder to use
And after R3 it becomes more common
knife supremacy 💪 💪 💪
why does that matter
just don't wake them up
like
What if it's an error alarm
😭
Thx for the tips
yw you should add me i can help you
LF2 r7c1 https://discord.gg/dCFJHRbR
Wait ur telling me all this time R2C2 was very easy? (Yes it was)
ive been playing for houras
.t lfg
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Bruh you got fished
Sorry man
Its tradition
if you use spear
Real
I see LFG post i must .t lfg
Bacisly 100 giants rush u at once
And only way to deal with them is to use the secret hammer superpower
Just use scatter bro
scatter is so bad idk the range is not worth it
that is not carlos santana
You should try the superpower, you press right click and left click as quickly as possible and it kills everything
maybe in make believe land
but in reality
where we are
that is NOT true
whatever that means
Moth
You are falling for it
like why would i need to do that when i could use spear
and not even worry about all that
like
(Ik)
THIS IS NOT CARLOS SANTANA
falling for what im literally trying to have a discussion about my new fav game
im gonna post on my tumblr later
about it
Idk who is Carlos Santana
You=spear are=is falling=the for=best it=melee
This reminds me a lot of the bots Twitch streamer we got a couple months ago
Brainless type?
Yep
the top 250 cod online player?
who subsequently got his account compromised and sent me a phishing link
He said something along the lines of posting the convo in his community
Too bad his community is like
Nvm then was thinking of wrong bots
1000 bots
1 bot for each time spear saved a run idk
of course i remember it i'm the little problem who started the entire thing
we've had better entertainers, you make take your leave
what does that mena
english please!
like
Icl these reminds me of the senator TikTok thingy 😭
Yeah i remember
Its fine
in plain english - you're not funny
Istg this one would break the floor
part of me hopes this is beep mm on alt accounts but i do not think beep mm would have this many stickers
im not baiting im innocent like i just wanted to come and collaborate with everyone
but this place is so mean and cruel to me for no reason
like i don't get it...
Malefic is also up there, but he’s like not ragebait but genuine bait
we are still looking for 2 brave strong men to carry us limp-wristed sissies through r1a1 in vc #999
Sometimes i don't know if Malefic is being serious or not
Same, very funny either way
My love for you is very serious 
Omg baby~
:)

Love you, boo!
Btw what’s the password
LMAO, that deleted chat was crazy
I can see deleted messages
Imagine delete ur own message🫃
saw it too
then what did i say ???
I’m on phone 😭
There are a lot of red-faced, white people here (aka only me)
"i wonder how many red-face white people are in chat rn"
ME
???
I’M IN CHAT
you just made that up
U just got fished💀
? i never said that lmfao
when
Who are you again?
Good question
why is everyone bullying yimyum rn wtf
Nah bro, you’re getting fished no matter what
God I love this community
It’s over
You’re cooked
man i love fish
Fish
Guys dont spam reactions
like
You can get rate limited by discord
gag them
Fair enough
:[
And won't be able to talk for a bit
then im going to sleep
i get fish prevented smh
Yeah You get rate limited and then suspended from chatting
gn <3 sleep well slendo!
Bruh discord buggin
It's an anti spam system
Yep



