gtfo-related-questions

[digital mural]

Would You open a door to let potential enemies come and kill everyone?

I wouldnt

[grizzled widget]

rather than risk opening the door for ALT://, they just took the W and left

[crystal pilot]

it makes sense

[grizzled widget]

alt:// was holding back endless waves when OG left

[crystal pilot]

they're prisioners

[digital mural]

Rundown 8 is the definition of "everyone by themselves"

[grizzled widget]

and died, still holding back endless waves

[digital mural]

Not really

We are not real prisioners

[crystal pilot]

do you communicate with the other team or no?

[digital mural]

We are called prisioners because we don't have free will

[grizzled widget]

i mean woods was

[digital mural]

Yes they do
Using the Vogen Dispatch

[grizzled widget]

most KSOs were US inmates

were

[crystal pilot]

what was the original plan though?

[digital mural]

Leave to a clean worldline

[crystal pilot]

between the two teams

[grizzled widget]

we all go through together, escape the hell that is earth

[digital mural]

Leave to a clean worldline

[grizzled widget]

everything and everyone else is already dead

[crystal pilot]

oooh

but the original team shat on them

[grizzled widget]

the surface is a half decade after the end of the world

nothing is alive.

[digital mural]

However OG team was controled by crazy Schaeffer who wanted to "destroy" the Complex

[crystal pilot]

wasn't that a good thing?

[digital mural]

OG team managed to fight Schaeffer control

[crystal pilot]

oh wait

[digital mural]

And act by themselves removing their control chip

[grizzled widget]

i mean debatably, but it ultimately wouldn't accomplish anything

[crystal pilot]

wopuldn't it destroy the teleporter

?

[digital mural]

No
The MWP is the only chance of hope to survive
Loosing the MWP would mean death

[grizzled widget]

according to the collectors, once a universe is infected by nam-v, it would eventually go on to take over that entire universe, in all observed cases.

the virus is an omnipotent force of nature

[crystal pilot]

who created the virus?

[digital mural]

No one knows

[grizzled widget]

we do not know

[digital mural]

Goku if he was a virus

[crystal pilot]

and the collectors spreaded it?

[grizzled widget]

either;
A: the collectors created it as a bioweapon. This is Dauda's running theory.
B: the collectors found it naturally occuring on some unknown world in some unknown universe.

[grizzled widget]

they collected life from all universes they traveled to.

the virus and the parasite are life, if dangerous.

[crystal pilot]

do the characters ever talk about what's actually going on in the rundowns besides regular voicelines?

[grizzled widget]

it broke out of containment on their ship, killed the crew, the ship drifted, and eventually crashed into the earth, wiping out the dinosaurs.

[digital mural]

Never trust an alien species named Collectors

[grizzled widget]

no.

[digital mural]

Mass Effect taught me that

[crystal pilot]

i meant like commenting on what's happening

[grizzled widget]

also no.

[digital mural]

Nope, until Rundown 8

[digital mural]

They do in Rundown 8

[grizzled widget]

the lore in GTFO is laregly hidden

and 1/4th of the story isn't even in the game anymore

[crystal pilot]

this game needed a little more voiceating i feel like

[grizzled widget]

and some of that 1/4th was never in the game to begin with

[crystal pilot]

how

[crystal pilot]

it would add a lot to imersion and character building

[grizzled widget]

the santonian industries webite, ambassador email logs, and ARGs the community as a whole had to solve.

[crystal pilot]

like l4d2 for example

[grizzled widget]

when ALT:// released, they also removed or entirely rewrote a ton of logs (because different universe)

and because players at the time complained, not wanting story forced on them.

so to my dismay, the devs removed quite a bit, from alt://r6 especially.

[crystal pilot]

so what is the last mission of the crew that dies again?

[grizzled widget]

alt:// die in r8e1.

[crystal pilot]

why would they complain about a game having a story

[glad sun]

D:

[grizzled widget]

the community at large at the time felt that it hindered replayability, being forced to listen to audio logs.

if you'd played OGr7, you'd know what i mean.

r7a1 maddox screeching especially.

us lore fanatics are a minority in the gtfo community.

most only played and still do play GTFO because it is hard.

[civic wave]

everyone loves this bit, most memorable part of r7

[grizzled widget]

so the lore is quite divisive

[crystal pilot]

more voicelines was all this game needed

[grizzled widget]

there are a ton in the code, but they were never implimented.

OGr5 had a bunch of voice lines with the KSOs reacting to their logs of who they were pre-ksoificiation, but ALT:// removed them.

[glad sun]

Oh, that's sad

[crystal pilot]

bruh

[grizzled widget]

again, ^

[crystal pilot]

so what is the last rundown of the crew who survives?

[grizzled widget]

both R8.

OG escape to the jungle planet in R8e2.

[crystal pilot]

i dont have r8 e2

[grizzled widget]

the second half of r8 is hidden in the menu until you complete the first.

[crystal pilot]

oh

[grizzled widget]

it has twice the number of expeditions otherwise visible

[crystal pilot]

so every mission is basically the same for both dimensions except in these two they diverge or no?

[grizzled widget]

no.

[civic wave]

the missions are all different

[grizzled widget]

both quads are doing entirely different things all through r8

[civic wave]

and one set of missions is way crazier than the other

[crystal pilot]

okokok i get it now i think

[grizzled widget]

OG is the "other team" schaeffer mentions in the first half of r8.

[crystal pilot]

so r8 is when things diverge?

[grizzled widget]

more like combine.

OG and ALT as universes are entirely separate until r8

not interacting in any way

[crystal pilot]

i mean diverge in terms of they start doing different things

[civic wave]

2 threads running concurrently got combined

[crystal pilot]

meaning they do the same things universe 2 does

[grizzled widget]

no, technically r6d1 would be, because OG go with schaeffer to do his rebellion in r7.

whereas ALT:// go straight to r8 from r6

[crystal pilot]

oh

so r7 is og only

[grizzled widget]

in OG schaeffer begins his gorilla campaign against the warden.
in ALT:// schaeffer works with the warden.

[digital mural]

Yes

[grizzled widget]

it is down to the decision to listen to/not beat the conduit to death with a lead pipe

DIE YOU FUCKING MUTANT

[crystal pilot]

also wtf is the neonate

[grizzled widget]

babies.

[digital mural]

A artificial human

[prime musk]

it's the baby

[civic wave]

da baby

[grizzled widget]

they were intended to replaced kidnapped inmates, to suppliment the stocks of the legion program.

[crystal pilot]

why does the warden want it though

[digital mural]

To make the mimics/conduits

And comunicate with others

Like Schaeffer

[grizzled widget]

warden wanted to use the remants of the abandoned rise program to create the conduit so it could talk with us

[crystal pilot]

by conduit you mean like vessel?

[grizzled widget]

no

the vessel is the name of the ship burried 2km below the surface

[crystal pilot]

like a body he could inhabit

[civic wave]

a vessel to speak through, i think they mean

[crystal pilot]

yes

[grizzled widget]

the conduit is the name the warden gives to the "grown up" neonate it created to talk to schaeffer

[digital mural]

Nope too

He doesnt speak directly through the conduit

The conduit speaks for him

[grizzled widget]

"the warden is of us"

it speaks for the collectors as a whole

[civic wave]

i never asserted anything as to what the conduit did or didn't do

[crystal pilot]

because shaeffer doesnt have the thing in his brain?

that the others have?

[grizzled widget]

yes, because he tore his out.

[civic wave]

i was simply trying to offer some clarity on the fact that when someone says vessel, it does not have to be regarding the specific object in lore called the vessel

[grizzled widget]

he was assigned to a quad once, but it got wiped out. warden assumed them all dead, schaeffer was the only survivor

[long nimbus]

is the conduit the neonate we were working with in R3?

[grizzled widget]

he wandered out of range, and tore his chip out

[grizzled widget]

no

[digital mural]

Then he did the same to Henrikson

[grizzled widget]

that neonate was used as a storage device.

like a biological hard drive

the only time we work with a neonate to actually grow it is in r7

in an attempt to replace the conduit schaeffer piped'

[crystal pilot]

shaeffer gets scared and kills the conduit?

[grizzled widget]

not really scared..

[crystal pilot]

and what happens to shaeffer in the other dimensions?

[digital mural]

Schaeffer hates the warden

[grizzled widget]

og schaeffer is much more manic than alt.

[digital mural]

We dont know

[grizzled widget]

he killed it out of hatred and distruft for the warden

[digital mural]

We know ALT and OG are dead

But the others? Nothing

[crystal pilot]

wait didn't og escape?

[grizzled widget]

practicially infinite worldlines so practically infinite schaeffers, not really worth discussing

[digital mural]

I mean schaeffer

[crystal pilot]

oh

[grizzled widget]

he means og schaeffer

[digital mural]

the convo is about scafer

[grizzled widget]

og quad (bishop, woods, hackett, dauda) kill both og and alt schaeffers

we drown them in the waterworks.

[crystal pilot]

do we ever see shaeffer

[digital mural]

Yes

[grizzled widget]

yes.

[crystal pilot]

like physically

[digital mural]

R8D2

[grizzled widget]

only as a corpse though.

gtfo doesn't have NPCs.

[digital mural]

Not enough budget

[crystal pilot]

and the og one we don't know

[digital mural]

OG schaeffer is dead

[grizzled widget]

both are verifiably dead

[digital mural]

He dies with AlT schaeffer

[grizzled widget]

we drown them together

[crystal pilot]

oh

[grizzled widget]

both corpses in the same room

[crystal pilot]

why

[digital mural]

Because they suck

[grizzled widget]

because og schaeffer threatened to tell alt:// that we were infected.

if he did that... no way alt:// would let us leave

[digital mural]

All of us are infected anyways

😔

[grizzled widget]

so we killed both.

[long nimbus]

But, isnt the point of us contantly going back to hydrostatis to remove the infection?

[digital mural]

When we get out we get infected again

[grizzled widget]

yeah, but we are constantly being reinfected

like, constantly

[crystal pilot]

but did he even have the power to not let us leave?

[grizzled widget]

infection mechanic =/= nam-v

[grizzled widget]

Alt:// had the data cubes at this point

[crystal pilot]

oooh

[grizzled widget]

without them, we wouldn't be able to do anything with the mwp

[digital mural]

And also MWP

[grizzled widget]

did alt:// have the mwp?

[crystal pilot]

so the alt team would ve escaped

[grizzled widget]

i thought just the cubes

[grizzled widget]

yes

[dapper portal]

how tf do u fix the infinite falling glitch brah im goin crazy

[digital mural]

Yeah

[long nimbus]

Shaef has the MWP

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

[grizzled widget]

ah, thats right!

[long nimbus]

you pick it up off his corpse

[grizzled widget]

i forgot

that is also in the floodworks

[digital mural]

Thats the entire final section of D2

Get MWP and leave

[crystal pilot]

so if both teams are tcnbically infected

[grizzled widget]

its a bad ending, yes.

[crystal pilot]

escaping to anotehr unvierse means nothing

[grizzled widget]

we doom the clean worldline to infection

[digital mural]

Exactly

[crystal pilot]

bruh

[grizzled widget]

killing the last living humans

[long nimbus]

isnt schaefer also infected?

[grizzled widget]

humanity is extinct, gg

[crystal pilot]

but didn't the collectors know that?

[digital mural]

Welcome to GTFO plot holes

Schaeffer should have died long time ago by the infection

[grizzled widget]

eh, the motivations of the collectors is a debated topic.

[ocean spindle]

nah schaeffers based

[grizzled widget]

their logs are entirely without tense gramatically

[crystal pilot]

maybe they wanted to destroy everything

the last universe

[long nimbus]

my only counterpoint to BWHD being infected is that in R8E2 victory is says "infection status: clean" on all players

[digital mural]

Infinite amount of universes

Impossible to destroy all of them

[grizzled widget]

infection mechanic is not nam-v.

[digital mural]

Thats gameplay

[crystal pilot]

yes but tecnically isn't it the only one

[digital mural]

Gameplay is not the same as lore

[crystal pilot]

like in the games lore

[minor fractal]

It's the only known one

But there's presumably infinite universes, or at least extremely many

[crystal pilot]

therefore it would still make sense

[digital mural]

Insight only discovered a couple million universes

[minor fractal]

And this is a very local infection

[crystal pilot]

if they hated humanity they would do that

[minor fractal]

in these universes

[digital mural]

They have no reason to hate us tho

[grizzled widget]

yeah, so technically it isn't all humanity going extinct

thats just not feasible

[digital mural]

They crashed INTO OUR planet

[grizzled widget]

but it is our humanity

[crystal pilot]

and what does the virus do?

[digital mural]

Kills

By itself it kills everything

[crystal pilot]

but does it turn people into sleepers?

[grizzled widget]

EVERYTHING

[grizzled widget]

no

[digital mural]

With the parasite it turns things into sleepers

[grizzled widget]

okay, so at this point, i'm gonna point you to the GTFO Lore For Dummies in the pins of #gtfo-lore

it is a synopsis for all pre-apocalypse lore (no gameplay spoilers)

read the .pdf and the .txt, should take about 20 minutes,

and we will continue this chat in #gtfo-lore afterwards

because we've probably spoiled this channel enough at this point lol...

[long nimbus]

maybe.

[civic wave]

addendum: we do not necessarily kill both schaeffers by drowning them - there is the choice to do so by inputting the command early, but you may also let OG schaeffer pipe ALT schaeffer dead, and then drown only OG schaeffer

well it's not even fucking drowning

[digital mural]

We already said that earlier

[civic wave]

it's crushing under the weight of water

[grizzled widget]

the pipe strikes again!

[civic wave]

it's a wonder that the bodies didn't horribly deform

[long nimbus]

and the MWP is intact

[digital mural]

Alien technology

Future

If it survived millions of years down there forgotten

It can survive water

[grizzled widget]

ngl would be funny as shit if that was just it, and it was destroyed

[civic wave]

i did not read that part, and upon rereading, i still do not believe i read that part

[digital mural]

I wonder how the Warden would react

[long nimbus]

i dunno, the inner purposefully didnt breach the surface of the ocean during the... bwoop thingy (my brain is stuck on goop pluron rays) maybe the alien technology is weak to water. have you seen a bathroom in the complex?

[grizzled widget]

queue spongebob meme: YOU DID WHAT

[digital mural]

Does schaeffer bucket counts as a bathroom?

[long nimbus]

no idea what youre talking about, im still stuck in r4.

[grizzled widget]

niiice lore knoweldge. also there are bathrooms, we just don't get to see them in gameplay

same with kitchens, dorm rooms, etc

[digital mural]

Most of the civilian stuff is in the upper levels

The game takes places waaaaay deep into Garganta

[dapper portal]

y are there like 1000 diffrent ways and issues when trying to join a friend

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

Pinned thread

I hope your friend isnt playing in "epic games"

[dapper portal]

?

[knotty relic]

Guys I went back to R1A1 for the first time in like 300 game hours with my main team and we beat it in 11 minutes. Is this a decent time? Obviously it’s not even close to WR but like, 11 minites is pretty good, right?

[long nimbus]

Welcome to improving at the game

[rapid warren]

wr is 2:40

smth

[rapid warren]

its ur choice to decide if its good 🙃

[ocean spindle]

its pretty pogchamp

[frail heart]

nuh uh

[rapid warren]

oh it got better ? 😭

[crystal blaze]

WR is 0:00 seconds by me, the greatest GTFOer ever

[knotty relic]

I bet Kenny or Eva has like negative time. Beat it before entering the level.

[supple jackal]

is the game tweaked differently for solo players?

[past mesa]

11 mins is a okay time if you play it again I think you could do 5 mins

Easy

[digital mural]

No

Game is the same no matter the amount of players

[supple jackal]

oh boy gotta call my friends to have them buy it too lol

[digital mural]

Play with bots

They do good in early levels

[knotty relic]

Isn’t current WR about 5 min?

Like isn’t that your time?

[past mesa]

wr is 2:40

[knotty relic]

Holy craaaaaaap

2:40?

[past mesa]

ye

[past mesa]

5 mins is about my best time or something

maybe like 3 mins

[knotty relic]

That’s cracked, dude.

Is that with quad?

[frail heart]

What about me 😔

[frail heart]

WR WITHOUT checkpoint (pre r8) is a 2:28, and WITH checkpoint is a 2:43. if you take the checkpoint time away then the 2:43 pre r8 would be around a 2:35

Any runs that are done now are put into the checkpoint category

The category without checkpoint is pretty much just an archive rn

[knotty relic]

Sorry Frosty I forgot about you and Rayalot.

[frail heart]

HAHAHA get fucked tgb

@little pilot

[knotty relic]

God damn it there’s so many of you in that group.

Chill Dude too sometimes, right?

[frail heart]

Ray isn’t in our group

Ray, chill, tru and Jish have their group

[minor fractal]

We're two groups with diametrically opposed views on the game.

[frail heart]

I’ve ran with them sometimes

[knotty relic]

Lol HUGE my bad

[knotty relic]

Care to explain?

[sturdy glen]

I fucking HATE frosty

[frail heart]

NOOOOOOOOO

[minor fractal]

We have our Aussie already.

[frail heart]

Well we have 2

Checkmate

Liberal

[past mesa]

that is why we are better

[minor fractal]

Too many

One of you has to go

[past mesa]

only one of us can be jumped by a buff rodent

[frail heart]

What if we stole tru and gave you Eva or tgb

Then who’s the minority

[past mesa]

hmmmm

[frail heart]

Checkmate

[past mesa]

pass^2

[minor fractal]

We run very different levels and have different ideas of what makes a run interesting, generally.

[frail heart]

Pretty much

[carmine grotto]

gtfo speedrunning ethnicity war is crazy

[past mesa]

frosty

is okay for a person tho

just personility

[frail heart]

Except I think I’m kinda in both worlds

[sturdy glen]

frosty is based

[frail heart]

I like everything

LESGO

Aussies just stay winning every time

Who wants to do a GTFO% Any% Duo?

[minor fractal]

Book out a month for GTFO% 100% Duo rn

[past mesa]

cant

[frail heart]

Damn

You were just the person I was going to ask

[past mesa]

NOOOOOOO

love you baby

[frail heart]

My holiday time is already taken up 😔

[frail heart]

I am legally not allowed to reply

[past mesa]

let me talk to your gf

we can come to an understanding

[frail heart]

You know where to find her

[past mesa]

i dont

i really dont

[frail heart]

Damn

Someone wanna do my uni labs?

[knotty relic]

Sorry to have started a speed run battle between you guys lol

Wait.

Have your two groups ever streamed like, a speed run race against each other?

[frail heart]

Na you didn’t do anything dw

[frail heart]

Na like as ray said above, our teams run different things with them running e tiers and stuff and we run pretty much everything else

[knotty relic]

Ah I see.

As crazy cool as your guys’ runs are I try not to watch them so I don’t spoil the gameplay for myself.

Guess I could check out R1 and R3 though.

I did watch a WR run with you and Eva for R5C2 cause me and ShasXV started talking about how long that might take because there’s a lot of timelocked stuff in that level.

[sturdy glen]

the timelocked stuff is all pe

[knotty relic]

Yeah I know. We are currently working on our first PE on that level so that is what got us thinking about it.

I said maybe like an hour but you guys have like 40min I think? Crazy skill to do that considering I’m estimating our first time clear to be about two and a half hours 😩

I watched your guys’ main route WR and that was an experience.

[past mesa]

i really like the routing i did for r5c2 main

all my work

[native sun]

They call the route The Washa

[frail heart]

Thank you for your service

[barren spruce]

anybody know which level would be best for the solo pistol/revolver achievement?

[glad sun]

r1b1

[barren spruce]

cheers, forvot to thank ya for the answer

second question: which level is best-lit for the purpose of the no-flashlight achievement

[jagged shore]

maybe r2b1? maybe b3 as well

[frail heart]

^

Was gonna say r2b1

Very well lit level

[barren spruce]

cheers

[barren spruce]

hm. what's the best loadout for the sake of the pistol/revolver thing, because i cannot manage to survive even a class-2 alarm with my terribad damage XD

[minor fractal]

HEL Revo / Revo

Maybe HEL Revo / HCP

Depends slightly on level choice and your ability on Revo

[barren spruce]

r1b1 as suggested for the pistol/revolver thing

i'm thinking hel sentry aimed at the spawn room to tackle enemies, is that the best pick?

[minor fractal]

Turn it 180

It probably is the best solo sentry

I think it's def Revo w/ HEL Auto sentry

Although I guess HEL Revo is a good finisher also

If you do go giants over alarms, HCP is very good for that.

I wouldn't go to z40, just z39 if you do go that way.

[barren spruce]

is the locked door also an alarm door?

[minor fractal]

No, but alarms are not too difficult.

Check your IDs before you open any zone, but you should always do z43, z41, and maybe always z42.

[minor fractal]

To explain this, btw, HEL Auto is the only sentry to get back damage'

[barren spruce]

oh! that's pretty solid!

[minor fractal]

and w/ back damage + pen, it has the fastest clear of any sentry.

You probably use tools in z41 and z42 to refill it between alarms

Which gets you to z44 for free.

If you get the opportunity to get 3 IDs from just four zones, take it, but otherwise z39+z41+z42+z43+z44 will always have enough.

[barren spruce]

aaand the game decided to put two of the three alarm circles riiight by the stairs for the entrance. glorious.

god i am terrible at this XD

think i'll come back to this when i have damage boosters

i cannot for the life of me do good accuracy for this challenge currently, need to get into the habit of aiming in this game better

as far as i can tell, keycard is always in the alarm door, so it is necessary to achieve this and boy howdy i am bad at it

XD

[tardy ingot]

You should come back when more experienced

Theres no need to rush achievements

This game is gonna take a while

[barren spruce]

oh i know it is, i just was hopin' my experience before the game went to full release would've come back to me, hah

it's been too long for even muscle memory though evidently

so yeah, will come back later

[crystal blaze]

Me when my neurons refuse to fire when I see a sleeper (my neurons are demyelinated)

[hybrid pine]

Do i get better artifacts the deeper I go in a rundown? also, do i get better artifacts on higher rundowns?

or is it all the same, only heat level affects artifact's boost?

[civic wave]

The artifacts/booster system does not change at all with different levels (all that will change is that different levels have a different amount of artifacts in them)
Artifact heat is a multiplier on the progress you get from an artifact to earning a booster (e.g 100% heat gives you twice the progress of 50% heat)
The booster you receive upon passing the threshold is randomly selected from all the boosters available of that type

[hybrid pine]

ok, so i can go back to levels I've already done (for example all of R1 and R2) and still get artifacts on par with ones on levels like R5?

[digital mural]

Yes

[tiny wyvern]

The only thing that matters is your artifact heat

[digital mural]

`
Artifact Heat is a mechanic present on the Rundown UI. The number will dictate how valuable each artifact is within a given level.

At 100% heat, each artifact will contribute towards 0.15 Booster progress, or 15%. As heat decreases, so will its progress towards a Booster. Artifact heat will never reach below 20% (at this heat level, artifacts will increase the Booster progress by 0.03).

Artifact heat will decrease by 1% for every artifact collected in the current expedition regardless of type. Artifact heat will increase by 1% for all other expeditions every 3 artifacts collected. Artifacts will only be counted as collected when you complete a level, fail a level, or retire to lobby. Exiting the game or returning to the desktop will not grant you any artifact progression.
`

[civic wave]

correct

[hybrid pine]

any specific way to quickly farm artifacts, or should i just speedrun easy levels at 100% heat?

[digital mural]

Its not worth it

[grizzled widget]

don't.

[hybrid pine]

why not?

[digital mural]

But R6B2 is a good level (secondary)

[grizzled widget]

the only one worth it is infection resist...

i'm not making this conversation again

this is deja vu

[civic wave]

if they want to farm for boosters, they can farm for boosters

[hybrid pine]

I really like melee boosters so i can kill giants on my own lol

[civic wave]

and yet other boosters can have a more profound effect on a greater proportion of levels - stuff like regen cap and provisions can absolutely make things a joke

[hybrid pine]

and supply/med effecieny boosters are OP

[digital mural]

Those kinda ruin the game

[errant dome]

r3a3 is a good lvl for specifically aggressive boosters (one will almost always spawn in either a shelf or a box on the zone thats right before reactor)

[tiny wyvern]

I mean farm all you want I suppose
It's your time, you can spend it how you can

Just don't let it burn you out of the game

Cause it has done so for some

[digital mural]

R6B2 is a good level to get boosters

[burnt inlet]

Smth smth it ruins the game smth smth removes a part of the mechanics smth smth

[hybrid pine]

true, but R4E1 is hard

[civic wave]

it's a cute level

[grizzled widget]

no, it ended up in about 6 more people being added to my block list and like 3 mod-mails.

so i'm simply not going to contribute to the conversation.

[errant dome]

it's up 2 u, all lvls are doable without boosters, but if u wanna use em you can

[hybrid pine]

never gonna happen, i love this game

[digital mural]

Sadly boosters are limited use

So

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏 I mean idc what other people do with their boosters (or if I need to use one cuz I’m coping)

[digital mural]

Make sure to use them right

[flat oar]

glow sticks power OP

[tardy ingot]

And those arent even the fucking giga cracked ones like bio scan speed…

[burnt inlet]

Makes the worst consumable into best

[tardy ingot]

You can kill them on your own without boosters

[civic wave]

bio speed is also kinda fucked by my cognition of time is entirely gone

[digital mural]

[burnt inlet]

Every room 100% brightness with one throw

[civic wave]

every s1 scan feels like it's speed boosted

i guess my coherency is also entirely gone

[hybrid pine]

I like one shotting them

[flat oar]

just make bio tracker rundown specific and glow sticks gonna be better

[digital mural]

Scattergun :)

[tardy ingot]

may I introduce you to scattergun

[burnt inlet]

Go for head then focus the limbs is what I do usually (from the back)

[civic wave]

always obsessed with big and fast... typical...

[errant dome]

if u find a yellow syringe thats a free 1 shot to giants/hybrids

[hybrid pine]

Everyone tells me how amazing the scattergun is, but I just can't get into it

[tardy ingot]

Frosty you said smth incorrect and were told you are wrong on that, then doubled down

People simply tried explaining how it works

Blocking and mod mailing over that is crazy

[burnt inlet]

When do they appear?

[hybrid pine]

I like the machinegun

[digital mural]

One shots everything

Profit

[upper ginkgo]

point and click adventure game

[errant dome]

uhhh i think r3 and after?

[tardy ingot]

You:
nuke bosses
Delete giants
Aoe bomb wave of smalls

[errant dome]

at least iirc there is none in r2

but its been a while i forgor

[grizzled widget]

what part of "so i'm simply not going to contribute to the conversation." do you not understand?

[civic wave]

ah shit i need to make sure my game is set up for tonight

[grizzled widget]

leave me alone

[hybrid pine]

Yea, but you have to basically be smooching the things to hit them

[tardy ingot]

Yea they appear in labs and so on @errant dome which is r3+

[digital mural]

I don't think i have ever seen a yellow serynge in R3

Prob bad luck

Or i'm just blind

[errant dome]

ive seen one ONCE i think in r3d1

i think they're just rare in r3 specifically

or maybe we're both blind

[civic wave]

Even if you do not wish to contribute, there is still value in someone coming out and saying that what you are saying is not quite what what happened, though as per your wishes you do not need to engage further at all

[tardy ingot]

i dunno if iix spawn in r3 of the top of my head

Hp ones do tho

[errant dome]

hmm

maybe im tripping and the yellow syringe i thought i saw was an hp one

im not sure

[grizzled widget]

r5e1 is an outlier when talking about fog in general. you don't talk about outliers when discussing a simple topic such as infection speed in fog.

now stop pinging me

[tardy ingot]

I also only said smth cuz it paints people in a massively negative light when it just isnt true

Same as with that 1 person who left after saying I was rude/toxic towards them after they repeatedly ignored advice they wanted by answering with falsehoods

[digital mural]

Hey that one was funny

[civic wave]

I did not ping you, Frostty.

I do not know why you inisinuate that I did, considering it can be clearly seen that I disabled the ping.

[tardy ingot]

Does it show?

[grizzled widget]

i got a notification from the quote/reply

[tardy ingot]

Test

[civic wave]

you can see by the presence of an @ symbol in the reply line, ya

[tardy ingot]

ah neat

[errant dome]

oh wtf

i never noticed that

dam

[civic wave]

what the hell is wrong with you all

does nobody ever know this stuff

[digital mural]

Look, no ping

It has been a thing for like years by now

Lol

[burnt inlet]

That explains why I’ve never seen it

[grizzled widget]

well then something is wrong with my discord, because it tabbed me in from my other monitor

[tardy ingot]

I know you can turn it off

But I didnt know you would see that from the outside

[errant dome]

i mean i dont doubt your words

i just never noticed it shrug

[civic wave]

maybe a setting on betterdiscord or something, funny coincidence, i couldn't tell you

[burnt inlet]

R2C2 solo (with bots) or R2D2 solo (with bots) what’s harder/requires more planning/research

[civic wave]

r2d2 is going to be harder, because you're on a stringent schedule and being pushed for time

r2c2 you can basically take forever and still be okay enough

[burnt inlet]

I’ve opened both so ik what they’re like

But like yanno both I’m horrid at

[civic wave]

maybe if you work a lot better with a clearly defined linear path r2d2 could be considered easier to plan?

[burnt inlet]

Well for me planning is either a) following some scaler tutorial or b) playing it for 20 hours

And I do NOT have the time for 20 hours

So scaler video it prolly is

[tardy ingot]

I dont think so no

R2C2 is also very easily to plan through

116 is the only weird difference

[burnt inlet]

Yea I was about to say R2C2 seems like you just run around a predetermined path whilst hoping your bots won’t get stuck

D2 seems more involved with having to find terminals and run back

And tryna find loot

[tame prism]

maybe

i ve been finish 2times by team

but will failed when single

[wild flare]

R2d2 10x times harder

It is longest reactor, and reactor lvls with bots feels like shit

Looking for resources, codehunting, returning to main terminal in time...

[burnt inlet]

Well r2c2 then r3a1 prolly

[wild flare]

You have r2d1

[burnt inlet]

Just got done with that

And uhh

Over my dead body I’m playing it again

[wild flare]

You have to get used for error alarm like r2c2, cause r4 and r5 filled with it

[burnt inlet]

Repeated it like around 20X over

[wild flare]

R6-r8 toned down with those

[burnt inlet]

Well that’s gonna be fun for me

[wild flare]

What weapons you use on bots for r2c2?

[burnt inlet]

Burst rifle and burst canon

And burst sentry

Burst yippie

[grizzled widget]

BBB

[wild flare]

I suggest to use dtr/hel revolver on main slot and veruta on special, error alarm spawn only smalls, no need to use bc imo

[burnt inlet]

For bots or me?

[wild flare]

Bots

[burnt inlet]

Oh yea

Sure

Should I switch sawed off and hel rifle on me for sum diff?

[wild flare]

I am not gonna spoil it, but you need big boy dmg on last part, so this is good

[burnt inlet]

Invis giants 😭🙏

Shadow giants

Or whatever

[tardy ingot]

R2C2 id recommend taking smth other than hel rifle yea

[wild flare]

Hardest part is to clear that stupid fog zone and get all ids imo

[burnt inlet]

Scatter¿

[burnt inlet]

Yea cuz I can’t take the fog turbine with me and it’s rng if I find fog repellers so

[wild flare]

Why not

[burnt inlet]

Cuz the bots won’t carry it and I’m stressing over the alarm and I usually don’t carry it and idk if I can trust my bots with it

I think a comma could be used in that sentence somewhere

[wild flare]

Pick turbine

You can try it

Error is what, 3 strikers/shooters every 30-40 sec

[burnt inlet]

But then my time is gonna almost double (before alarm) cuz I have to run twice to get the cell thingy and turbine no?

[burnt inlet]

Fair

[wild flare]

Bots will handle it while you look up for ids

[burnt inlet]

Is there sleepers in that level?

[burnt inlet]

Also I haven’t found a single id when I’ve played but might just be me

[wild flare]

I think there are some on zone with resources and second cell

I forgot tbh

[burnt inlet]

Feels like I need to remember 25 diff zones

[burnt inlet]

I’ve only gotten to first cell and I think twice past first alarm door

And that’s about it

[dapper kestrel]

Sleepers in the 3 zones after the fog zone iirc

[wild flare]

#gtfo-media message

[burnt inlet]

Then I’ve gotten far once

[wild flare]

My old post with map and route

[burnt inlet]

W tyty, don’t you need to go 116 if >= 2 ids in there?

[wild flare]

You have to roll, until rng allows you to skip 116

[burnt inlet]

Think Eva said sum about that

[burnt inlet]

Yea

[wild flare]

Also go into zone 117 for resources

If you need some

[burnt inlet]

Also I’ve found the cell at the room above 113

[wild flare]

Door is full team scan iirc

[burnt inlet]

Yea the map show it as one

Like no alarm door

Just scan

[wild flare]

Not a big deal, back in time i prefered to pick turbine with me cause i hated that thick fog and couldn't see shit

Now i could fog dive but it is still annoying

[burnt inlet]

I fog dived on r2d1 and that might’ve been why it took me so long (when I ran out of fog repellers and/or lost patience)

And I fog dived in my previous attempt when I got past the alarm door

I think I see a pattern

[tardy ingot]

List this stuff on terminals and youll quickly learn where you can find em

[burnt inlet]

Yea, I’ll prolly open paint and write in the rng of where to find it on the map dark made

[wild flare]

Ids locations not fixed

They can be in any box basically

[burnt inlet]

They not rng based/zone based?

[burnt inlet]

Also r2c2 speedrun when (rng fest 😭 would not be fun to speedrun)

[tardy ingot]

Its been done

Current record is 5:51

[burnt inlet]

I meant you should do it

[tardy ingot]

Theres mild rng as 9 IDs are spawned over 4 zones

You need 7

Then in each zone theres like 30+ spawn points in boxes/lockers

[tardy ingot]

I… do hold the record

[burnt inlet]

Oh…

Well

Seems like there’s one dominant GTFO player

[burnt inlet]

So I’ll just map out what zone they spawn in (kinda my og idea)

[prime musk]

just focus on getting through the class 3 and class 2.

[wild flare]

Just make way to terminal inside zone asap, open boxes on your way, then ping ids

[burnt inlet]

Im assuming pinging ids makes them get that objective item thingy?

[tardy ingot]

pinging shows you a short ping on your hud

[burnt inlet]

That’s what I’ve been doing now, constantly dying on the class 2 or slightly after cuz infection

[wild flare]

If you meant Picking obj item command no

[tardy ingot]

Disinfection station

[burnt inlet]

Yep, saw it first on I think it was r1c1 where I pinged a key and was like ”they show where it is?”

[tardy ingot]

Also for the class 2 just rush scans, open the door and rush upstairs

[burnt inlet]

I’ve been missing an disinfection station?

[wild flare]

Disinfect station on next zone after fog one iirc

[burnt inlet]

I usually do but last time the well placed mine blew up two of my bots👉👈

[burnt inlet]

Yippie disinfect

I see it on ur map dark

[prime musk]

after class 3 finishes wait for an error wave to spawn and then fullsend it to class 2

[burnt inlet]

I’ve just been full sending it to class 2 immediately when it opens so that also might be why

[prime musk]

if you get error wave inside it kinda messes with it and can break doors early

[burnt inlet]

Yanno noticed that I’m not that great at this horde control thingy 😭🙏

[burnt inlet]

Rn I run to the right and follow the wall on the right towards the door, prolly not the greatest pathing

[wild flare]

Dw, this lvl is one of the "wall" Lvls for newish players

Esp with bots

[prime musk]

this is good

maybe consider taking middle upstairs path im second room iirc

[burnt inlet]

I’ve heard (R2D2 quickly approaching)

[wild flare]

I used this route too, but i went to terminal first, got ids, then cleared class 2

[burnt inlet]

Do you mean after fog room?

[prime musk]

in z114

[burnt inlet]

Huh so it was decent

[burnt inlet]

Didn’t even know there were stairs in that room

[prime musk]

there's a downstairs, you come from the upstairs

[burnt inlet]

Oooooh yea and then on the right there’s stairs up again

As said I fog dive this room which prolly isn’t smart

[prime musk]

as long as you don't get lost fog diving is fine for short durations since you have disinfect station

[tardy ingot]

This is a very similar tile to r2b2 start zone in layout at least

with the entrance sec door being the big room west and the alarm door being east

[burnt inlet]

Uhhhh I think we got to wave 6 but like I do NOT remember the rooms

Played it once

With co

And once alone (first wave you have to search for terminal I hit alt f4)

[prime musk]

idk what room you're talking about here but
the exact tile can be found in r2b2, it's the room before the small spitter zone with generator

[tardy ingot]

that doesnt have the ending room + door
But yes the same room is in that zone twice

[strong vapor]

Some questions from an extremely new player (who just completed r1b1 with some friends):

• Is there an easy way to visualize the reach of my melee weapon? Hit a wall a bunch, I guess?
• How many knives does the typical team run in later rundowns? We've got 2 right now, I really enjoy the playstyle personally. Knives REQUIRE a crit to one-shot anything, if I understand?
• Is it a fool's errand to go melee on the... shriekers? Tendril-spewing walkers which create a wave of zombies.
• Is 2 bioscanners essentially throwing? A buddy seems to not want to switch off, but neither do I. Such a useful tool.
• How do people keep booster amounts high when they're in the later rundowns? I'm not running any for rundown 1 due to this thought.
  I can check the wiki or any linked tutorials if-needed, but posted here to see if human opinions had any insight aswell

[digital mural]

Most of people run hammers

One bio scanner is enough

You Will need to LEARN how to melee scouts

Most of people don't use boosters

[flat oar]

1.crosshair will get smaller if in range
2.0
3.melee is one of the best way
4.no
5.artifacts heat doesnt make game harder

[strong vapor]

Shoulda clarified, how do people keep a stockpile of boosters considering how often wipes seem to happen in later rundowns?

Farming, I guess?

[digital mural]

We don't use them

They are a waste

[strong vapor]

That tracks

Stat boosts are kinda lame

[digital mural]

Some can break the game and make it 10x times easier

But still most of people stay away from them unless it's really neccesary

[grizzled patrol]

knife is good and has high skill ceiling. you just need to commit to learn it (and you need balls to be so close)

[knotty relic]

I feel boosters are useful in my first time clears. Especially on levels we’ve struggled on, thing like bioscan speed on multiple players have taken a lot of the headache out of some of these levels.

[strong vapor]

I've knived the big ones once the team runs out of ammo, it goes as expected but at least I'm getting experience lol

[digital mural]

Then youll need to clear the game without boosters and it turns out to be a whole different experience

[knotty relic]

Or maybe Regen cap on heavy gas levels?

[digital mural]

Knife and bat needs full charge to the back of the head

[tiny wyvern]

There's plenty of guides out there for this game

[digital mural]

Hammer and spear need a bit more than half but it doesnt need back

[tiny wyvern]

Let me bring some up that you might like...

[flat oar]

the problem with knife is it just not versatile compared to others

[digital mural]

Hammer is the best all rounder ye

Good for giants and smalls

[burnt inlet]

Hammer my beloved

[errant dome]

compared to hammer specifically*

[strong vapor]

The back of the head, that explains a lot of my fuck-ups. Got it.

What niche does Bat fill? Sledgehammer seems to focus damage, Spear range, Knife attack speed, but bat...?

[tiny wyvern]

Bat does stagger

It staggers really well

[digital mural]

Bat staggers enemies

One hit and it staggers

[tiny wyvern]

It's better at big clear for that reason

[grizzled patrol]

i would disagree. you can use it agains chargers, giants and nightmares pretty well. You just have to be extra cautious and actually good with it

[strong vapor]

Ahh, so tankier enemies essentially? Keep them stunned? Does it prevent nearby enemies being alarmed?

[grizzled patrol]

otherwise it is great as a supporting melee if the rest of the team runs sledges

[digital mural]

Nope

[burnt inlet]

I can’t tell if he’s trolling anymore

[digital mural]

He isnt

Malefic is kinda right on this one

[burnt inlet]

Fair enough

[tiny wyvern]

If you want we can run a mission and talk you through most of the stuff you might want to know

Something like R1A1

[errant dome]

you can in theory stagger 2 giants permanently with just 1 bat, tho the timing is very tight, its also not as useful as it might initially sound, your much better of meeling with hammers or just shooting usually

[burnt inlet]

Also sevil there’s gonna have to be someone that can kill scouts easily and quickly without much error, they’re in most levels, if everyone’s like me then it’s gonna take a while to get thru them

[prime musk]

1. When in range and aiming at an enemy, you melee will have its crosshair shrink to indicate that it's hitscanning. Essentially, when you are aiming and in range the melee is hitscan and will show you. (When outside range or not aiming at the enemy, the melee hitbox will follow a trajectory depending on what melee you're using and will hit the first thing it collides with.)
2. Two knives are fine, but sledgehammer is the standard. Knife has strengths, but the game is built around using sledgehammer and except for meleeing smalls (Strikers and Shooters) sledgehammer is superior. Bring knives if you enjoy it, they're good, but if you need to melee other stuff than smalls sledgehammer is the way to go. (Almost always in later rundowns teams run 4 sledgehammers because it's comfy, but knives are fine there too usually).
3. No. Killing scouts silently is a valuable skill and more or less required later in the game. Hitting them in the head with sledgehammer, or back of head with knife, will kill. Their head hitboxes can be deceiving, aim further upwards than you think, and consider jumping for height.
4. Two bio trackers is meta for some levels, but it is the case that for most stages one is enough and something else would bring more value than another bio tracker. Nonetheless bio tracker is the best tool and it's never useless to have a second bio tracker.
5. By not using them. You only get so many and the amount of tries and runs you do will outnumber the amount of boosters you get, so you have to learn to play without them and strategise around not having them.

[digital mural]

@strong vapor i recommend watching tutorials in #guides-and-reviews

This might be too much info dump

[strong vapor]

Hmm, tempting but I'm not available for a little while. I could put a few of you on a list and contact once I'm so hopelessly stuck on a level I need external advice?

[errant dome]

me when game teaches you almost nothing

[digital mural]

Yeah GTFO biggest issue is that

Sadly

[grizzled patrol]

i love RPGs where you take the role of a victim

[digital mural]

LOL

Wild

[tiny wyvern]

Most of the guides will help you with most of the things this game has to offer

[strong vapor]

I'm fine with it tbh, I love the terminal and a good chunk of stuff is learned through observation. A lot of the stuff I asked is strategy for a reason though, I have no idea how to figure out the ideal equipment beyond asking around

[burnt inlet]

Malefic funni moment

[errant dome]

crazy

[strong vapor]

As Spiff said, doom but you aren't doomguy

[flat oar]

hunt

[burnt inlet]

I mean one could tell that scatter is OP, but yanno to each to their own

[digital mural]

Oh My god spiff

Just as a little fact

[errant dome]

i mean im not saying the game needs 2 handhold you everything but some stuff would be nice 2 have as a tutorial perhaps

[burnt inlet]

Not another spiff inspired GTFO player (same tbh)

[digital mural]

If You watched spiff
The game isnt as bad as he made it seem

He sucked for the most part

[tiny wyvern]

It's the truth tho

[burnt inlet]

Ok well that’s a relief to me 😭🙏

[strong vapor]

More numbers available would be fantastic imo

[tiny wyvern]

check wiki

[grizzled patrol]

Reactor counts as a player

[tiny wyvern]

[[Back Multiplier]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier

[strong vapor]

Had to wiki melees to learn anything about 'em

[tiny wyvern]

Will have your head turning

[prime musk]

knife needs a damage buff

[tiny wyvern]

Nah it just needs a bug fix

[digital mural]

Spear needs a buff

[flat oar]

6 dmg knife too op

[burnt inlet]

Hammer needs a range plus AOE buff 🤭

[grizzled patrol]

i love knife hitboxy. best part of it

[flat oar]

1 shot charger

[prime musk]

no it is absolutely illegal that there is an amount of charge knife can have where it will take off the head of a striker and leave it with enough health to survive a full charge from the knife

[strong vapor]

Just the first 10 minutes of his r8 video, the game's low clear rate pulled me in moreso. Even if achievements probably didn't exist in EA so the numbers aren't that low. 28% for r1a1? Really?

[tiny wyvern]

They only started existing after a majority of people stopped playing

[digital mural]

Achivements were added in R8

[tiny wyvern]

In dec 2023

[digital mural]

It doesnt count previous to that

[grizzled patrol]

just do it from behind

[strong vapor]

Ah, that explains it. RIP.

[burnt inlet]

AYOOOOO

[prime musk]

me when error alarm and they're awake to begin with

[tiny wyvern]

This game gets real hard when it wants to

[digital mural]

But even then
R8E2 isnt as hard as his video makes it seem

[tiny wyvern]

And most people abandon the game and move on incredibly quickly

After a few rundowns

[grizzled patrol]

do the 360 jump spin smh

[prime musk]

truueee

[tiny wyvern]

If you have more questions in the long run you can always

ask

We'll be around for a little while longer

[burnt inlet]

He prolly will have more questions

[strong vapor]

Can I ask your hour count? I recall he said his was 150 going in, maybe that's low for the average r8e2 entry?

[digital mural]

Average GTFO completition is 300-400 hours

[prime musk]

average r8e2 entry is probably 1000

[digital mural]

I have 550

[strong vapor]

Awesome, much appreciated. Not a ton, y'all cleared up everything I wasn't sure about so far

[digital mural]

No?

[grizzled patrol]

if you had a great team to learn from? 300 hours is more than enough

[prime musk]

i say that because of all the experienced og players who didn't have the option to play e2 when they would have been able to get there and clear it

[knotty relic]

More like a few levels lol. People seem to get up to R1C1, ask for help and are never heard from again 😩

[grizzled patrol]

omg 550 hours of R7E1?

[digital mural]

Yes

[grizzled patrol]

or 550 clears

[prime musk]

nah 1100 clears

brazil skip every time

[digital mural]

550 dates with Pablo

[strong vapor]

Uh oh. I'll be fine. Probably. Lol

[burnt inlet]

Maybe we should tell him about r1c1…

[flat oar]

bro can parry pablo tongue at that point

[burnt inlet]

You will be it’s easy once you know what to do

[knotty relic]

It’s just different. Not bad.

[strong vapor]

I'm not a coward. I also abandoned my ds3 sl1 years ago, so citation needed. Yipee.

[tiny wyvern]

The game is still hard even when you know what to do down to the letter

It's like death stranding

[errant dome]

getting 2 r8e2 you mean?

[fathom ice]

wow messages

[errant dome]

no way its 1k hours lol

[hardy grotto]

is it

[knotty relic]

You got this bro. Just ask people for info if you’re stuck and LFG when you need people.

[tiny wyvern]

(Cue some pub where even after you tell them multiple times to not put in a cell they still do it)

[fathom ice]

i think it depends

[prime musk]

the game can stop being hard but it never stops being punishing (except for when scattergun is slotted)

[fathom ice]

like look u can have dbi with 2k hours

[errant dome]

lots of messages

[tiny wyvern]

(And act surprised when things go bad)

[fathom ice]

let's be honest

[errant dome]

but we're talking about avg tho

[fathom ice]

i think it's lower

[errant dome]

like sure you'll have outliers with like 2k hours

[grizzled patrol]

R2E1 cell into the blood door genny goes hard

[errant dome]

on r2e1

or smthin

[glad sun]

My friends no matter how many times I tell them what the objective is

[hardy grotto]

There’s some execution required but like

[knotty relic]

Sometimes I want to try the pub experience just for the sake of playing more but all of you vets make it sound miserable.

[hardy grotto]

Map knowledge just kinda carries

[fathom ice]

^

[hardy grotto]

you know what to expect it gets a lot easier

[errant dome]

if you know how enemies path/funnel, sentries can unirnocally do most of the shooting for you in most lvls xd

[prime musk]

you need to know what to make of the map knowledge but yeah

[burnt inlet]

They just silly

[hardy grotto]

yeah I’m assuming you have a baseline knowledge

[civic wave]

gun skill may have been more important before we sleepwalked into a sawed off meta

[hardy grotto]

I wouldn’t expect a brand new player to know what to do

[strong vapor]

Placing a turret in a doorway and closing the door was peak comedy, I fully believe turrets can carry lmao

[prime musk]

it still matters when scatter isn't being slotted

[strong vapor]

Depends on ammo availability i assume

[prime musk]

which is like ok less than half the time in meta

[hardy grotto]

Ppl really gonna fear the day I start slotting sawed off scatter

[prime musk]

will swap to scatter and fire at a shooter 30m away out of habit

"where's my hel gun"

[hardy grotto]

yup

And yet the shooter will still die

Cause I win those

[errant dome]

get that rng spread

[civic wave]

yeah you still need to play well, it's more a matter of sawed off being so ridiculously strong that in a lot of situations you can avoid firing your other weapon at all and there is 0 punish/0 reason not to do it

and yeah you could do a similar thing with spamming other main weaps, but they are not strong to the degree sawed off is there

combination of ttk and reload speed, all that stuff

[strong vapor]

I assumed ammo efficiency would be the most important stat, given how many enemies there seem to be even in earlier rundowns?

Not like you can stealth past alarms, sadly

[prime musk]

well it matters

but because game design is hard

the strongest weapons in firepower also get the most ammo

[digital mural]

BP

[errant dome]

while not an irrelevant stat, most lvls give you more than enough ammo

[strong vapor]

Really? Got it, I'm missing my shots, lmao

[hardy grotto]

that’ll happen if ur new

[burnt inlet]

Tryna hit a giants head with hel rifle be like:

[strong vapor]

I learned guns are hitscan but man those graphics made it look like projectiles, that threw me off during r1a1

[burnt inlet]

I did not know they were hitscans icl

[errant dome]

also note that, since the way alot of stuff works (alarms and errors) the longer you take, the more enemies show up, therefore more ammo use. Which means weapons that can kill faster can actually be more ammo efficient despite the stats saying otherwise

[strong vapor]

Don't trust me lmao, pretty sure I read that on the wiki

[burnt inlet]

If the wiki has it it’s true

[prime musk]

no

[errant dome]

not neciessarily

there is alot of stuff wrong on wiki

[strong vapor]

Ahh, good point. Dude with high fire power saves everyone ammo if they push the dangerous alarm spots quickly and w/o losing health

[prime musk]

the wiki has old information that is no longer correct, in some places

[digital mural]

GTFO wiki is full of weird stuff

[burnt inlet]

For basic stuff no?

[digital mural]

A lot of incorrect info too

[errant dome]

nah even that

[burnt inlet]

Bruh nvm then

[strong vapor]

Here's another one: the team is all at 20% health and roughly even ammo. A 4-charge medkit is found. How to distribute? Evenly? All on one? Another way?

[errant dome]

the main reason is cause people who think they know how the game works change the wiki with their misinfo

[digital mural]

And since Wiki can be edited by anyone

[burnt inlet]

Fair enough

[prime musk]

it depends but generally hold on to it until alarm is reached

[digital mural]

[flat oar]

if 4 use 1 each if 5 bio got 2 uses

[ocean spindle]

just depends on ur needs

maybe the big gun u need for a section needs to live

so more hp to them

gotta just think it through but yes usually med before an alarm

not for stealth

[errant dome]

also tbf cant completly blame them, sometimes it happens because people use mods in their lobbies but they think its vanilla

[strong vapor]

So feed whoever's going into more danger if they need it, otherwise Bio assuming they're being aggro to get scans, otherwise evenly?

[burnt inlet]

Also just in general GTFO seems like a information game and people might not realize how things really work

[errant dome]

confirmation bias happens often yea

[prime musk]

just hold on to it until the next forced loud section, where priority is lowest health > bio > most valuable gun for specific section

[flat oar]

bio is the team eyes. if you can shoot without bio you can give to others otherwise save bio

[strong vapor]

Gotcha gotcha, makes sense

[flat oar]

normally best player in the team pick bio

right?

[strong vapor]

I'm hard carry 🥳

I've enjoyed the agency Bio gives, I'd feel naked equipping anything else

[digital mural]

Freaky GTFO

[strong vapor]

No comment

[burnt inlet]

Bots on bio is also a good idea when you eventually need to run a three man (🤨)

[prime musk]

yeah

[strong vapor]

imagine playing with bots, all my homies just wing it w/o

We got annoyed even if the AI isn't actually terrible, just not human

[burnt inlet]

I hate the bots icl

But I need the firepower

Ain’t no way I’m doing levels without them

[strong vapor]

yeah, I tried to solo r1a1 for the memes and I simply didn't have enough gun for the alarm and therefore died instantly

Shocker, sub-10 hour can't solo the 4-player game lol

[prime musk]

as you improve you'll increasingly feel like there are fewer and fewer enemies (even though there are just as many or more as before)

[strong vapor]

What's the par for # of sleepers I should be able to take out via knife, solo, in a row? Record w/o fucking up is 2 at the moment. In the case of highly grouped enemies specifically, not loners

[prime musk]

in stealth?

[burnt inlet]

Yea, I’ve been having troubles with mostly r1c1, r2c2, r2d1, r2d2 cuz I’m running with bots instead of actual players (though r1c1 is average to be stuck at)

[tardy ingot]

With knife its a bit wonky

In a cluster at least 3

[prime musk]

in proximity aggro if there's more than 2 that wakes from a kill triple kills are inconsistent, unless knife

[tardy ingot]

Skilled hammer players can get 3+ in a cluster in stealth alone

[tardy ingot]

Triples arent inconsistent

unless ping

[prime musk]

but if it is just doubles and singles it should be infinitely many in slow stealth

[tardy ingot]

goes hard

[tiny wyvern]

Spear is bad so maybe 2-3 if you're lucky

[strong vapor]

so I should confidently handle 2, 3 with perfect execution and no random variables in the way?

fair enough, that's been my experience

[prime musk]

with hammer i have issues where if i can't get occiput on one of the followup kills i just don't have the time to kill 3rd before it screams

[tiny wyvern]

Well if something is above or below you things might get bad fast

[prime musk]

maybe skill issue idk

[tiny wyvern]

But yeah

[tardy ingot]

[prime musk]

i see time to practice ig

[strong vapor]

is their hearing in a cone? or a circle? weird terminology I know, some games handle vertical detection weird ("cone"-like)

[grizzled patrol]

shove is not real. we are not playing L4D2

[flat oar]

spear get precision multi only on full charge or also get during charging?

[prime musk]

the prec multi scales with charge just like the dmg

[tardy ingot]

@strong vapor
As @tiny wyvern said earlier. Id recommend checking out the https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/884816732936622110 channel.

Theres lots of spoiler free info there that isnt quite as jumbled as the answers here tend to be xD

[tiny wyvern]

Just know they can extend beyond floors
And know things can go bad

[digital mural]

i love how i said it first

[prime musk]

like yes. but all of this requires movement which is sometimes not allowed if there are other enemies nearby that wake if i walk around to shove and kill etc

[digital mural]

Yet Golden take all the credit

Smh smh

||this is a joke btw||

[strong vapor]

yeah it's probably right tbf, will be doing so soon™️

[burnt inlet]

Smth smth the one that says the joke loudest gets all the cred smth smth

[grizzled patrol]

positioning issue smh

[prime musk]

kinda but sometimes it's just not allowed without stealthing around all the other enemies around

whatever time to practice

[knotty relic]

We love chasing Feelers up the stairs with a hammer 🤣

[frail heart]

aint no way

[burnt inlet]

bruh is catching strays

[frail heart]

na eva was talking about the other frosty

dont compare me

[topaz anvil]

Ain't ever seen you in a room together

[sturdy glen]

thats the blocking for you

[hardy grotto]

ill refrain

[sturdy glen]

LOL

[topaz anvil]

[frail heart]

dont

i wish MM was here

[sturdy glen]

but beth

the +1 mod mail

[hardy grotto]

ive already upset one person today i cant do anymore

[frail heart]

i think the mods all probably let out a fat sigh when they see these mod mails come in

[hardy grotto]

im hard limiting myself

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[sturdy glen]

can confirm for at least 1 mod

[hardy grotto]

who you wont name

[frail heart]

ah, im glad you're in cahoots with ch0

[sturdy glen]

always have been

who do you think pays them

[frail heart]

i forgot

we are just sheep

[topaz anvil]

Which of you 3 are gonna be mods for dow

[sturdy glen]

ill be caught dead before moderating a discord

[hardy grotto]

do you think theyd accept me if i applied like 2 years from now

as a hypothetical

no way im doing it

[frail heart]

sure sure

[topaz anvil]

I'll put in a good word

[hardy grotto]

im like an instant deny at this point in time

[sturdy glen]

who is this jerz who appleid for mod?

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[sturdy glen]

then we fork over 20 to tru to say idk

[hardy grotto]

tru happens to be on vacation at the same time

for a few days

so hes not able to provide any input

[hardy grotto]

first tihng im doing as dow mod is banning you

[topaz anvil]

Talk directly to docred

Only thing anyone wants to do

[frail heart]

😔

[hardy grotto]

i'd put in a good word for beep

[topaz anvil]

Get fody in too

[hardy grotto]

shut the fuck up cheese spot

[pallid hearth]

new player here: which rundowns are considered old?

[frail heart]

technically r7 is the oldest rundown in the game

alt rundown 1 -6 are all rereleases of older rundowns tho

[tardy ingot]

if you are thinking about the rules
do not worry about it, its for the original rundown 1 - 6 which arent playable anymore

[grizzled widget]

two answers.