gtfo-related-questions

[hoary mason]

you had to get key from one of 2 zones

Then you'd have to go to one of 2 other zones for hsu

[minor fractal]

Alarms are normal in that level.

[hoary mason]

Ah fair

[burnt inlet]

Ooooh I remember

[crystal pilot]

how do i find the partial decoders fast?

are they all in the same room?

[burnt inlet]

Theres a route you can take

[crystal pilot]

zone i mean

[burnt inlet]

Nope they’re spread out

[grizzled patrol]

Sv_cheats noclip

[burnt inlet]

That command was NOT mentioned in scalers vid

[tardy ingot]

Terminals

[crystal pilot]

do i list and ping them?

[burnt inlet]

Query

List and query if you want

Could just do a couple to know where some spawn and go towards those zones

And clear out the zones towards those zones and after

Might have to run back if you do in wrong direction but time isn’t a worry

[crystal pilot]

when i list they appear?

[civic wave]

yeah if you list for them

[crystal pilot]

bro mine deployer sucks ass

what is it good for?

for alarms it sucks

for reactors it sucks

better off just bringing two sentries

[digital mural]

Mine a door

Close it and mine it

[ocean spindle]

suddenly the wave is gone

[digital mural]

You can kill most of a wave with a single mine

[crystal pilot]

that is if a door is closable

if it isn't it's useless

[digital mural]

Eh you can still place mines for giants or big enemies

Can be useful once in a while

[crystal pilot]

maybe it's because it's a charger only alarm?

[rare briar]

is there a rundown with a very early mother? trying to get rapid response with a friend

[crystal pilot]

i'm doing r1 with the aprtial decoders

[rare briar]

yeah that one mines wont help you

there are plenty of missions where they are good though

[ocean spindle]

r6d2

but its awake

[digital mural]

Mines + foam
Amazing combo

[ocean spindle]

for sleepinnnnnnn fuck, tbh u can speedrun a bit of r3b2

[civic wave]

r6d2, r6d4, r8e2 also has one i guess uhhh what other levels are there

[ocean spindle]

get there in 15 mins and its super easy

[civic wave]

ya r3b2 is a fine bet especially with scatter, simply 2 alarms and 2 cells between you and the mother

uhhh r7d2 is a thing too

but that one's a little funny

[ocean spindle]

that ones pretty far

both funny and far

[civic wave]

r3d1 has a mom but that's simply going to be worse than r6d2/d4

there is always r7e1...

[ocean spindle]

no yeah just do r3b2 kdmskm its the best option

[rare briar]

i was thinking od the one in r4b1

[ocean spindle]

that ones at the end if a reactor

like thats 20 mins

r3b2 is just 2 alarms

[civic wave]

it's still a fine bet

dependent on gameplay other levels may be faster or slower

[ocean spindle]

i mean reactors are usually not that flexible on time

but i guess

[rare briar]

yeah r3b2 seems like a much better idea

[pine zephyr]

is it me or is rundown 3 much harder than r1, and rd 6

[tiny wyvern]

Somewhat?

It depends on what levels you're talking about

most R3 levels are actually easier than most of the game

C and D are the only ones that would make trouble for you

[pine zephyr]

r3a1-r3a3 is much harder than r1a1-r1c1

[flat oar]

harder than 1 but i dont think it harder than 6

[tiny wyvern]

A2 and A3 mirror R2D1 and D2 so yeah i suppose it is harder than R1 in that sense

But yeah, probably not R6

If you suck at aiming that rundown actually sucks

[pine zephyr]

r3 or r6?

i like to think i have good aim

i like single shot weapons for that reason specifically

[pine zephyr]

high caliber pistols deletes meatballs

[flat oar]

on average r6 layout and light are easier to see

[tiny wyvern]

And if you miss three shots with high cal you cry

[pine zephyr]

i dont miss

the high cal pistol is my favourite weapon

very easy tii aim, and one taps against normal enemies

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah it's pretty nice

[pine zephyr]

clip size is subpar, but it kills a giant in one clip to the head and body, or 4 shots to the back

[flat oar]

HCP should 2 shots the back

you can even hammer occi and a HCP back shot to finish it off

nice gun

[tiny wyvern]

It's a deagle
Most deagles are good in video games

[tardy ingot]

Do not do this if its more than 4-5 things to look for honest to god

Listing all the zones is faster and you get extra knowledge
Seeing people query med/ammo or pd/ids is so sad to see

[tardy ingot]

Dont headshot giants with high cal (or honest any weapon that isnt sniper or precision rifle)

The extra dmg you get is not worth the potential miss and aim time
If you want a quick stagger from a limb break, ok. But you can also just 2 tap body for a stagger

[topaz anvil]

Query id_xxxxxxxx 9 times

[tardy ingot]

18 times

cuz r1b1 has to be fully queryd

[topaz anvil]

Of course

Imagine you could query and ping a zone instead of querying the security doors

[crystal pilot]

Im seeing a video on r1c2

And it’s telling me to use shotgun sentries lmao

[topaz anvil]

When was this video made

[tardy ingot]

Which?

[topaz anvil]

It's not a completely horrendous idea but if you are relying on them then xd

[tardy ingot]

Theres no worse choice that isnt legit trolling (like 3 foam, 3 mines or 4 bio)

[topaz anvil]

Nah you just don't know the tech

[tardy ingot]

@crystal pilot where are the answers

[crystal pilot]

2 years ago

[tardy ingot]

By whom?

or rather which video

[crystal pilot]

Professor scaler

I think imma do 2 sniper sentries next time

[tardy ingot]

oh gawd damn scaler

[crystal pilot]

But he says to c foam a lot of doors though

[topaz anvil]

💀 the alt r1 scaler tech

[tardy ingot]

that was the og strat for alt r1 since they were busted during that time

[crystal pilot]

And then says to bring bio and two sentries and mines

[hardy grotto]

you knew it was going to be scaler you just didn’t wanna accept it

[crystal pilot]

Bro how am I supposed to cfosm all the doors without the cfoam launcher

[topaz anvil]

Stop telling me the truth

[tardy ingot]

You can cfoam and mine doors decently well

The zone 93 alarm
The zone 100 alarm (if you safe the zone 94 doors for it aswell)

[hardy grotto]

truth hurts sometimes…

[tardy ingot]

Scalers guides are absolutely well done

but the shotgun sentry recommendtion is the 1 thing that he knows we will meme on

(Other stuff like „missinfo“ on r7d2 is just cuz we didnt know at the time)

[civic wave]

auto sentry... clears.... better than shotgun.....

sad........

[topaz anvil]

Who is Miss info and where can i get them

[tardy ingot]

Guess what the r1c2 speedrun uses 💀

[crystal pilot]

I will probably go two sniper sentries (since burst doesn’t stun chargers?) , bio and c foam

No mines

[civic wave]

WardenMapper

[tiny wyvern]

scaler probably won't ever update his video guides at this point right

Since it's been ages

[tardy ingot]

Dont run foam without mines

[crystal pilot]

How am I supposed to get two sentries then

[tiny wyvern]

Why do you need two sentries?

[crystal pilot]

R1c2 needs two

[topaz anvil]

2 sentries, 1 foam 1 mine

[tardy ingot]

no

[tiny wyvern]

Does scaler want to do double pull?

[tardy ingot]

not necessarily

[tiny wyvern]

I've never watched the thing

[civic wave]

really you can force any loadou to beat any level, but yeah

[tardy ingot]

you can do 2 sentries and mines

3 sentries

1 sentry, mine and foam

Always bio obviously

[pine zephyr]

Why do you need 2 sentries at r1 c2?

[crystal pilot]

We’re drooling tards

[topaz anvil]

Hype video. I should watch it

[tardy ingot]

R1C2 is one of those levels where most things are pretty equal tbf

[tiny wyvern]

No like
What strat are you doing that requires two sentries specifically
And a foam

That just sounds weird

[burnt inlet]

True forgor that part

[crystal pilot]

More sentries less chargers I figured

[tiny wyvern]

If you really want to no brain the charger section just perma foam the first charger alarm and ladderfoam the last one

[tardy ingot]

mines = less chargers too

or rather no chargers for a bit

[tardy ingot]

Dont

Recommend

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t ladderfoam considered cheese?

[tardy ingot]

Cheese/exploits

[crystal pilot]

What do you mean perma foam

[tardy ingot]

You can keep doors foamed

if you reapply foam when they do dmg to the door

[tiny wyvern]

I keep forgetting it's an exploit

sry

[tardy ingot]

about 2 blobs for every 3 hits on the door or smth

[crystal pilot]

How did I not know this bro💀

[tiny wyvern]

You never tried it

That's all

That combined with mines usually does the trick

[crystal pilot]

But does the door not break

As long as you keep putting foam?

[tiny wyvern]

You're essentially healing the door's hp

As you reapply foam

If you don't heal it fast enough and the foam completely disappears from the door

[tardy ingot]

Foam works like a shield

[tiny wyvern]

it will start to break

[tardy ingot]

if foam is on the door the door hp isnt touched

[crystal pilot]

Last time we lost on the last alarm

[tardy ingot]

Hence the „heal“explanation is bad btw

Cuz the door can stay at 1 hp and break the moment foam is gone

[crystal pilot]

I put so many mines I lost count

And they still easily got through

[tardy ingot]

Honestly that last alarm becomes so chill with a good hel rifle

[tiny wyvern]

That and camping the ladder

[tardy ingot]

Mines in the open dont do shit

[crystal pilot]

Mines in the doors

[tardy ingot]

Kill like 1 or 2 tops most of the time

[crystal pilot]

Both doors

[tiny wyvern]

Mining last alarm sucks

[tardy ingot]

You put 1 mine on a door

[tiny wyvern]

Cause there's three doors

[tardy ingot]

Closeable doors
Not security doors

[crystal pilot]

Only one?

I out like 5 on each last time

[tiny wyvern]

There's three doors from where you came and one door on each side zone

[tiny wyvern]

Why?

[crystal pilot]

On the two security doors

[burnt inlet]

Once kills most things you worry about

[tiny wyvern]

You single mine the closeable doors to make sure enemies group up before it explodes

[tardy ingot]

Unnecessary overkill

[tiny wyvern]

Don't mine open doors that does nothing

Unless you have more mines than you can count

[crystal pilot]

Even if I put the slightly after the other so they don’t explode at the same time?

[halcyon current]

Unless maybe you want to catch a giant with a mine

[tardy ingot]

Its also the reason why r1c2 doesnt need you to refill the mines that much

Just for alarms youd use 6 mines TOPS. Realistically only 5

[halcyon current]

That has been helpful to me before

[tardy ingot]

Then the one that isnt in the door frame is an „open“ mine and will only kill like 1 guy

[tardy ingot]

It does smth
Not much, but smth

[tiny wyvern]

That or you put it too close and waste the mine

Cause mine explosions trigger other mine explosions

[tardy ingot]

Dont
Put them
On security doors

[halcyon current]

It's niche but it does exist as a possibility lmao

[tardy ingot]

Its nice for solos where you have mines

[burnt inlet]

Except blood doors

[crystal pilot]

What about c foam on the floor of security doors

On entrances

[tardy ingot]

Well thats smth different but ye

[crystal pilot]

Tou slow them down

[tardy ingot]

Dont

[tiny wyvern]

Wastes foam

[tardy ingot]

floor foam sucks ass 99% of the time

[crystal pilot]

Bruh

[tiny wyvern]

Better used on mineable doors

[tardy ingot]

@crystal pilot do you know how alarm spawn rules work?

[crystal pilot]

I did EVERYTHING wrong last time lmao

[crystal pilot]

Yes they stop spawning when you complete the scans

[tardy ingot]

I mean where they spawn

[crystal pilot]

No

[halcyon current]

Is okay, learning GTFO is most of playing GTFO tbh

[burnt inlet]

Often times they also spawn two rooms away

[tiny wyvern]

...Do you want one of us to show you the mechanics before you continue
Cause it seems there's a lot you don't know

[crystal pilot]

Sure

[tardy ingot]

I send 2 guides in media

they should help a lot for stuff like this

spoiler free stuff aswell

[crystal pilot]

I learned:
no foam on the floor on security doors
No mines on security doors
Close doors behind security doors mine and c foam them

[tardy ingot]

You close doors that are inbetween where enemies can spawn and you

Those you can then mine (and foam)

[halcyon current]

Learning mine+CFoam on Doors bought me so much time in GTFO

Unironic bread and butter defense strat

[worn grove]

Best way to use cfoams is by single tapping it

[tiny wyvern]

Unless you have cfoam efficiency

Then you can hold it

[frail heart]

For refoaming yeah

[tiny wyvern]

I still don't understand why cfoam efficiency doesn't work on single taps

Can't it just u know
remember how much you used

[worn grove]

Yeah max cfoams can easily do up to level 5 security scan

Without them breaking it

[crystal pilot]

What is this

[worn grove]

More coom

[flat oar]

booster

[worn grove]

While using less %

[crystal pilot]

So the strat for r1c2 is?

[tardy ingot]

There is no „THE“ strat for r1c2

most are viable in a similar way

[crystal pilot]

Cfoam doors that are closable before the security doors

No c foam on the floor

And max one mine per door

This should do it

And turret positioning on one of the doors

[tardy ingot]

reapply foam to permafoam during the alarm if you can get to it after the teamscan

[crystal pilot]

In front of one of them maybe

[tardy ingot]

But you can also play r1c2 with 2 sentries and mines

[crystal pilot]

But there’s multiple doors

[halcyon current]

Outta curiosity, what melee you guys running?

[tardy ingot]

just mining the door and having sentrys cover the entrances to the room once they break through

[worn grove]

Bonk bat

[halcyon current]

R1C2 was the first level I went "damn Hammer really is nice huh" tbh

[crystal pilot]

Bat

[tardy ingot]

its crazy that hammer has been meta for all of time

[halcyon current]

The more I play GTFO the more I just like Hammer

[tardy ingot]

its kinda funny to think that if bat did slightly more dmg to doors it would be meta for speedruns at least

[prime musk]

is it
it just has better breakpoints than everything else

[worn grove]

The real question is which hammer

[halcyon current]

[tardy ingot]

What is this question xD

„Is it?“
Then answering your own question

[halcyon current]

Mallet is my favorite

[tardy ingot]

Maul

Any other opinions are wrong sadly

[halcyon current]

Mallet is my favorite cause it's legit 2 pistons welded together

[worn grove]

The mallet is the only answer

[halcyon current]

You can make it in your garage

[prime musk]

"its crazy" "is it" -> reasoning for why it isn't

communicating is hard

[worn grove]

The only weapon meant for beating meat

[halcyon current]

You ever seen a Piston Hammer?

Fuckin heavy

Thing would infact wreck a sleeper tbh

Good edge on the piston too tbh

[tardy ingot]

ah
i read the „is it“ as „is it meta?“

And imo it is crazy in a way that it only got nerfed after someone pushed for it

And still was meta after

pre nerf hammer was even better than rn

[prime musk]

wasn't it only the stagger multi that was nerfed

[tardy ingot]

yes

Did you play before that?

[prime musk]

nop

[tardy ingot]

you just perma staggered giants with no skill

[prime musk]

i picked up game may 2024

[tardy ingot]

You perma staggered mom with no skill

[halcyon current]

Weapon balance in this game is all over the place tbh

[tardy ingot]

the stagger was better than bat ffs

[prime musk]

i mean tbf

realistically

[tardy ingot]

yes its a hammer

[prime musk]

a sledgehammer does stagger more than a bat

[tardy ingot]

but then you could also look at spear

why cant you sprint

Why does it charge so long

[halcyon current]

If you could sprint with spear I think I'd use it tbh

[prime musk]

all that spear needs to be fixed is a spearthrow atk

[halcyon current]

"Give Spear Javelins"

[hollow pollen]

technically you can 🤓

[halcyon current]

Can you?

[hollow pollen]

it is slightly faster walking speed

[halcyon current]

That's not sprinting lmao

[prime musk]

can't you bhop while charging spear at full speed

[hollow pollen]

true

[halcyon current]

I thought you meant a bug ngl

[hollow pollen]

I think they only added that so you could kill Scouts more consistently (they start feeling when you sprint near them)

[hollow pollen]

sliding too

[halcyon current]

Like as a genuine way to keep baby players from fucking themselves?

[hollow pollen]

maybe

idfk

they might've added it on accident for all I know

wouldn't surprise me

[halcyon current]

I be leaping off 2nd floor railings to slam a scout in the head with hammer, I don't need no sprint takeaway lmao

[tardy ingot]

Not accident

[halcyon current]

Assassin's Creeding scouts is genuinely some of the most fun in GTFO

Especially if you do it infront of new players

[prime musk]

gtfo should have mantreads mechanics with 2x stagger multi

[halcyon current]

GTFO should have the market gardener

[burnt inlet]

You tell them ”watch this” as you run into scout and miss the headshot😔

[halcyon current]

Imagine gtfo with tf2 guns lmao

[prime musk]

stickybomb launcher skull

[halcyon current]

It'd have the exact same reputation ngl

[grizzled patrol]

Eyelander in GTFO would be crazy

[prime musk]

eyelander and then teammate runs quickfix

[frail heart]

pretty sure some fucking zaero mod probably has it

[grizzled patrol]

Yeah the Berserk sword and a 1 Hand sword

[frail heart]

the only fun i had in zaero mod was that one fucking melee that hits at light speed and i was just running around whacking waves

[grizzled patrol]

OG FE1 weapons were truly peak

I want my Spitter on a Stick back

[soft crater]

The Hawk Tuah spit on that thang ahh weapon

[ocean spindle]

NOOOO

[crystal token]

Can you join a Host that selected a mission that you haven't unlocked yet?

[flat oar]

yes you can

[grizzled patrol]

Thats why you should Join the lfg Posts for E Tier Missions. Afterall E Stands for Easy

[burnt inlet]

average malefic moment

[digital mural]

Maleficcccccccc

[long nimbus]

What is the purpose of "foam stairs" is there some special advantage like it uses less plips? Or is it just since 100% of enemies will use the stairs they will all get foamed.

[prime musk]

enemies have collision. foaming a tight choke where all enemies have to pass makes it more effective since only the frontmost enemies will get foamed and block the rest, reducing the amount of cfoam used per unit time to keep the horde at bay

[long nimbus]

i see

[tiny wyvern]

That's why ladderfoam is an exploit

Cause the foamed enemy stops other enemies from going down the ladder

[tardy ingot]

And well

Foaming stairs is rly only used in 1 case. And its where you would prefer saving the door you would otherwise foam

Cuz stair foam (aka foaming a dense chokepoint) is still pretty inefficient

[wild flare]

I think r7e1 will still kick your ass with no matter how good bots will be

If only they could miraculously dodge lick attacks

[burnt inlet]

isnt that the brazil skip level?

[wild flare]

I just found this video on media and watching it 😅

[burnt inlet]

i understood about 2 things, i blame the low brightness i had when watching (was watching at night) and the bitrate/compression

[frail heart]

how tf the bitrate block any and all information from reaching your brain

[burnt inlet]

rather the blockyness

but i am still on r2 so i blame that

and was very tired

[wraith kindle]

Hey, quick question, in R4D1, is there any downside to doing the Secondary after you did the entirety of the Main?

[hoary mason]

Wdym downside?

[wraith kindle]

Like you HAVE to do the secondary between waves for some reason (you need the ammo from behind the bulkhead doors, or they just simply close up after the reactor, or if there is an infinite waves of enemies after the reactor, etc.)

[wild flare]

You complete reactor and no more enemies will spawn

Bulkhead key on last codehunting area

[wraith kindle]

Cool, ty, that is all I wanted to know
Seems like a chill level (we are stuck on R4C3 with my friends, and we wanted to skip ahead to get good before re-attempting R4C3 again, but reactor+||3 mothers|| at the same time seemed like a bit much)

[grizzled patrol]

You literally get the Key for the secondary at the end of the Main. If you have Balls and want chalange you Sure can Keep Looping Last Wave for Infinite fun

[wild flare]

Same energy as doing ov before sec on r4c3 xd

[wraith kindle]

Btw, I tried mining the ||tank|| in R3C3 Overload, but he didn't die after walking through 10+ mines that were on the top of the doorframe pointing down, is that just unlucky, or are you supposed to place them in a different way?

[grizzled patrol]

Mines Not high enough. He Has to Like Touch the mines with the Tumors and Not the Armour

[wild flare]

His tumors hitboxes are inconsistent, i cannot recommend mining his ass, i tried this A LOT on r4c3

[long nimbus]

just do what i do and run 3 sniper sentries. its a smart idea. i promise

[frail heart]

there is a consistent mine placement for tanks on doors, but you're just better off taking a scattergun

[wild flare]

Yes, correctly placed sniper turrets melts tank

[long nimbus]

wait its actually smart?

[wild flare]

I did this on r4c3 and basically on almost every lvl with tank

Well, i play with bots, so i cant just circle around him

[long nimbus]

Same

[wild flare]

With players you just scatter him

[frail heart]

with bots its probably not a bad idea

[wraith kindle]

Are there any resources for the mine placement? I'd like to learn

[frail heart]

^

[frail heart]

Not really

Uhhhhh

Ill make a video and send it to you in a couple hours

[wild flare]

I am curious too about consistent mine placement btw

[wraith kindle]

That would be extremely generous, thank you!

[wild flare]

Idk, i tried every possible positions on r4c3

[civic wave]

it can be hit and miss

sometimes tank takes 3 damage

sometimes he takes 997 damage

sometimes he just dies

[wild flare]

Yeah, i got like 20% chance to kill him with mines on my tests

So i gave up on mining strats

Sniper sentries more reliable

Even 1 sniper sentry + hel rifle is good

[prime musk]

r4d1 is honestly quite chill if you and your friends are comfortable playing hel rifle. moreso than r4c3pe. i wouldn't worry about secondary tbh, there are good chokes for first mom and second mom can be killed before it wakes up, so it is only 1 real mother fight.

[tardy ingot]

As everyone has said tho
Its generally not worth to mine the tank if you are playing with other people. A scattergun nukes the tank easily

The only thing to learn is that

1. a non scatter play has to take aggro by shooting him anywhere
2. scatter has to rush in and blast him from behind

Taking marginal chip dmg from tank licks in the process (if any at all) shouldnt be too bad

[wraith kindle]

We'll try that as well, but I'm not the scatter player (I'm the host, and to the best of my knowledge that's not a good combo), and I'd like to improve myself and offer a possible solution to the team that I can practice separately

[tardy ingot]

Yea host scatter isnt quite the strat

[wraith kindle]

We mostly kill mothers with Foam + Scatter, I presume that would work here
(we also had our only super mother kill with a mine stack)

[tardy ingot]

the point with mines not being the thing you should try is that tank combat will become more of a norm later down the line

And mining them is basically never a strat thats available

[tardy ingot]

ngl same here
you can generally just spare the foam. Scatter deletes mom from the game
Have 1-2 people on baby clear duty (likely you as host) and you got it!

Also killing pmom with mines is unironically very rng.
(Did it work first attempt?)

[wraith kindle]

As far as I remember it did, yeah

[tardy ingot]

luck was on your side

[hoary mason]

[tardy ingot]

but yea

I recommend learning to fight bosses earlier rather than later

Scatter honestly memes on them. Stupidly broken weapon

[wraith kindle]

We did do the one level where there was a tank alarm, and it took us a few tries with sniper sentries

But honestly, if we can just get that one W for the morale boost, I'd take the mine cheese for now

[prime musk]

tank alarm? do you mean r4c1 or like whar

because there is no way you cleared ||r4e1|| and are scared off r4d1

[wraith kindle]

I don't remember the level, it was a big rectangular platform with shelves, with 3 zone doors that opened for waves, and tanks that just kept coming one after another

[prime musk]

oh

r5b3

[tardy ingot]

r5b3sec

yea

[wraith kindle]

Ye, that must be, it we did all As and Bs with PE

[tardy ingot]

100% practice scattergun

You would just delay your suffering

scatter is strong on r4c3pe anyway

as it deletes bbcs

[prime musk]

^

it's still good into charger hordes

[wraith kindle]

the whats?

[prime musk]

big chargers

[hoary mason]

unironic gtfo term

BBC

[wraith kindle]

I'll pass it along, but I'm the only person who can't scatter, so I can't do too much about it

[prime musk]

host scatter is better than no scatter

[tardy ingot]

yea
but client scatter makes host scatter look balanced

[prime musk]

it's actually crazy

[wraith kindle]

It's a pretty funny way to have "roles" :D

[tiny wyvern]

The only time you kind of have to mine tank is when you somehow run out of ammo
...I've had that happen twice now

[sick mauve]

but it is really satisfying mining a tank

[digital mural]

You know whats satisfying? Backshots tank

[crystal blaze]

I just tell the tank to stop screaming after I give ‘em the juiciest backshots

[wild flare]

• you used all mines vs tank;
• tank took 3 dmg cause he ate explosion with his body, not tumors

satisfying 🙃

[hollow pollen]

the humble Scattergun:

[sick mauve]

skill issue

[tiny wyvern]

@sick mauve Is rifle really bad?
I always assumed it to be a longer range pistol

[prime musk]

rifle is just pistol but slightly different

[tardy ingot]

Its not

both pistol and rifle are kinda fine

[prime musk]

they have good stagger but suffer when actually trying to kill

[burnt inlet]

is there a mod that brings back the old voicelines?

[wild flare]

if you did it, can you send video to me too pls

[tiny wyvern]

Chatters give you more voicelines

Maybe those include the old ones?

[frail heart]

ngl i forgor

also i tested and on r4c3 it just isnt consistent

[tiny wyvern]

Trying spots for funni mines?

[wild flare]

ikr, i think it is because door is small

[burnt inlet]

Ok ty ty, it’s more so that I want the ”OG” experience but with the current patch, heard that the lore was considered ”forced” on people and that’s why they removed it and quite frankly I want it bacc

[tiny wyvern]

If you have actual lore inquiries regarding what has changed, you can go to #gtfo-lore and ask frostty

[burnt inlet]

Aight ty

[crystal pilot]

guys I get that scattergun is really good and I think so too but i don't like the playstyle, I wan't something with more range but for giant killing power as well, what do you recommend?

besides hel gun

[prime musk]

burst cannon

[grizzled patrol]

choke, BC, HC, hell rifle

[frail heart]

choke is a wild suggestion

[crystal pilot]

what is BC and HC

[grizzled patrol]

magdumping it is fine if you have ammo and cover for reload

[glad sun]

Burst Cannon/ High Cal I think

[prime musk]

burst cannon / high cal

high cal is probably not a good pick tbh because it's so susceptible to falloff

but it's still better than most specials if you shoot main if giant isn't dead after 4 shots

[frail heart]

just take BC

[grizzled patrol]

just take scatter smh

[frail heart]

bro wanted range smh

[crystal pilot]

what about a good special weapon that can be used both for wave clearing and giant killing?

[grizzled patrol]

oh mb. short rifle it is then

[prime musk]

burst cannon

burst brushing/dragging kinda hard though

hel rifle is more tilted towards waveclear and burst cannon more towards giant clear, but both fill the role

[crystal pilot]

and if I don't care about range is the combat shotgun a good option?

[prime musk]

i mean if range isn't a concern scatter all day but cshotty is good yeah

not great for giants in terms of ammo but it is pretty fast at killing when close

[crystal pilot]

combat shotgun as more shots though

would be better for waveclear than the scatter

[prime musk]

kinda

scatter killing 2-3 smalls per shot is pretty good

cshotty gets 0-1

[fathom ice]

unironically u can kill more with scatter in a clip sometimes

[prime musk]

combat shotgun is good nonetheless

[crystal pilot]

how do you avoid friendly fire with shottys?

especially scatter

[prime musk]

dont shoot others

bot friendly fire is what it is

idk man
not shooting others is like
don't press m1 when others in crosshair

are you asking for how to coordinate to get shotgun value while still allowing full team to contribute

[crystal pilot]

basically

[prime musk]

basically

don't step between an alive enemy and your teammate

wait isn't this explained in the shooting guide

uhhh there are spoilers but gerz has a good video that i think explains this

[fathom ice]

shooting guide !!

[prime musk]

sky when are you releasing shooting guide pt.2

[fathom ice]

why me

[prime musk]

you use guns and shoot in the game

[fathom ice]

everything is already explained

[prime musk]

if shooting guide is so good why haven't you made pt 2 yet !!"!

[fathom ice]

ask Beth or Hani for tips and tricks

i'm a pub

[prime musk]

red name says otherwise

[fathom ice]

it's even worse

i'm a carried pub

[frail heart]

Genuinely I think that Hani is the best player in the world and if you wanted to become a god you go to him lmao

sorry meant ppub

[prime musk]

ok genuinely

[fathom ice]

he is the best pub

[prime musk]

does someone have a recording anywhere

of hani playing waveclear/not scatter

[fathom ice]

I've seen him play hcp in samdown

that went hard

[prime musk]

samdown doesn't count

[fathom ice]

ok

[frail heart]

i feel like thats where it counts the most

since its the most opppressive environment

[prime musk]

eh that's actually fair

[fathom ice]

he was playing e2 solo

with hel gun iirc

he died on last scan for class 6

[prime musk]

team hani might be a little good at this game

[fathom ice]

good morning

[prime musk]

good evening

[frail heart]

wait fr?

i need to see this

[fathom ice]

it's not a recording afaik

Beth said it in vc a while back

[civic wave]

there's the solo speed vids but those might not be the greatest

still crazy

god hani's so fucking good at the game

[prime musk]

that's fair they're kinda crazy

[glad sun]

Question: why is choke mod seen as worse than the other special shotguns? (scatter is obvious)

[prime musk]

slow reload. small clip

[civic wave]

low uptime really, it doesn't do much per magazine and has a substantial reload
plus it's been role crept

much better guns around nowadays

[crystal pilot]

how do you reload cancel?

[glad sun]

I like my shotgun with a higher range than pistols and some rifles

[frail heart]

when the mag visual updates, hotkey shove and switch back to weapon

[tardy ingot]

combat shotgun is great in terms of ammo for giants compared to anything not giant killer

[prime musk]

ok that's fair

it is same as high cal

[tardy ingot]

no

slightly higher

[prime musk]

basically same

[tardy ingot]

you basically have 1 extra shot

[prime musk]

because you're probably needing 9 shots rather than 8 to actually get the kill

[tardy ingot]

of high cal

as dmg

[prime musk]

yeah but i think getting the 8 shots to kill on giant with cshotty is optimistic

it involves missing 0 pellets and suffering very little falloff

[prime musk]

i am going to lose it i died on extract on r2d1 again

[crystal pilot]

how come hel shotgun takes 3 shots to kill a striker?

is my aim ass?

[prime musk]

because you aren't aiming properly

it should take 2

[crystal pilot]

one headshot one bodyshot?

[prime musk]

two good bodyshots is enough

but the more damage one shots deals the worse the other can be

[crystal pilot]

so i should not aim for the head with it?

[prime musk]

aim for center mass

the spread means aiming strictly for head will have pellets miss

[ocean spindle]

realistically hel shottie should oneshot but only if u barrel stuff all the pellets to the center of the striker i think, so just aim bodyshots and group enemies up

thats rhe best use for hel shottie

big groups

[prime musk]

what do you mean it should oneshot

it oneshots only on client if everything hits head at point blank

[ocean spindle]

prec dmg is 9.9 x 3 strikers head multi

it has 13 damage in general

i dont think client matters much

[prime musk]

doesn't matter you need 7 bonus damage from head

[ocean spindle]

or does it

[prime musk]

which is more than you get

because head breaks before that on hots

[dapper kestrel]

client one shots because the head popping take a bit longer to register no?

[ocean spindle]

but for pellet shotguns i swear the difference was non important

[crystal pilot]

are there glowing cosmetics in the game?

[ocean spindle]

it mattered for burst weaponry

[tardy ingot]

no

hence scattergun

[prime musk]

it is specifically for pellet weapons that it matters

[ocean spindle]

the only talk of scattergun client i ever see is tumor one but i guess headshots too

[tardy ingot]

Also matters for burst
But ping will need to be worse for strong impact

[ocean spindle]

man i swear i oneshotted strikers with hel shottie but i gues im delusional

[crystal pilot]

if there are no glowing cosmetics then what is this

look in media

[digital mural]

Mods

Also that quality is really good

[crystal pilot]

yeah

3p

[digital mural]

I can even count the pixels!

[tardy ingot]

is that a 5 pixel pick of my cosmetics in lockout 2?

cuz that would match with the eva end of that name and the green

[digital mural]

That image looks so good out of context with that low quality

[crystal pilot]

i put one with better quality in there

[tardy ingot]

modded

should be in the video title or description

[digital mural]

Modded content is so good people don't know the difference between vanilla and modded

[hasty crane]

Do nightmare scouts take 2x damage on their back bubble?

[native sun]

Yes

[hasty crane]

Thank you

[crystal pilot]

Is there something that the burst sentry does better than the sniper sentry?

[past mesa]

Striker efficiency

[grizzled widget]

general efficiency. they are two sides of the same coin really. sniper sentry one-shots sleepers in hordes, but less frequently, so you end up fighting less total sleepers when they get to you. burst sentry does chip damage, weakening most sleepers in hordes and killing some, so you end up fighting more total sleepers, but the average sleeper in that horde is easier to kill/finish off.

[turbid horizon]

holding shorter hallways too

[prime musk]

striker efficiency when not having bio tracker symbiosis

[grizzled widget]

this too. sniper sentry demands long sight-lines.

[turbid horizon]

sniper can’t always acquire targets in time

yeah

[grizzled widget]

preferably up high on a shelf or pile of crates, and in the corner of a room or long hallway

i don't know the exact time to acquire and fire a single shot, but its something like 2.5 or 3 seconds'

each

and the sleeper has to be in view of the turret the entire time, while it is sprinting away from said turret, and towards you.

[frail heart]

if the level is very charger based with long sightlines or nightmare based then sniper sentry is good af

burst sentry is actual dogshit on e2 class 6 alarms

[grizzled widget]

yep. sniper sentry, though its AI doesn't prioritize it, is best used against chargers and giants.

it kind of requires pre-knowledge of what an expedition has you facing to take advantage of this fact, though

but both sniper and burst are good.

auto is a bit mid but has its niche against an overwhelming horde to stun them,

the shotgun sentry hasn't been good for over half a decade.

and it was mainly only good back then due to a bug

[civic wave]

its niche is more of being a set and forget tool to decimate a wave in a short hallway, but ya more or less same thing

[edgy veldt]

Chat is R2E2 possible solo/with bots

[tiny wyvern]

Yes

[edgy veldt]

Is there a recorded run of this?

[livid stone]

is there proof of this ?

[grizzled widget]

i mean r7e1 has been solo'd without bots, so

probably

[tiny wyvern]

There's videos on yt

you can find

[edgy veldt]

This level has quite the silly factor

Makes me want to uninstall

[tiny wyvern]

No just 'bots not wanting to listen to you' factor

Especially when they drop their stuff when you walk through error

Always fun

[edgy veldt]

Me telling a bot to use c-foam on a door that’s about to be broken only for them to say “no”

[digital mural]

Dont let them use foam

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah that's the solution to that problem

[digital mural]

You should be the one using it

[edgy veldt]

I’ve learned that lesson lol

[tiny wyvern]

@wild flare can give you some pointers
As well as some of the other vets

But yeah if you have trouble with certain sections ask

So we can help out

[edgy veldt]

Tempted to go to lfg beginners again but idk if I’ll find anyone wanting to do an E tier level lol

[digital mural]

You can use the other LFG chats

[edgy veldt]

Oh

I can’t see them?

[digital mural]

Go at the top of the channel list

And click "channels and roles"

Select the LFG chats

[edgy veldt]

Ty

[wild flare]

Foam on bots good ONLY for setup without active fight

But even then, they will use 3 more blobs iirc, cause they use full charge (12 blobs) instead 9 blobs to fully fortifying door

[tardy ingot]

Only with glitchles (exploits)

[tardy ingot]

Well people already search for E tiers in lfg beginners

But you could realistically also expand to normal lfg chats

[tardy ingot]

oh nice A2 explained it

[wild flare]

Flyers cap for reactor and/or doorbug is only way to solo r7e1 iirc

[edgy veldt]

So am I wasting my time trying to do Crib with bots?

[digital mural]

R2E1 is possible with bots

[wild flare]

It was about r7e1

[tardy ingot]

R2E1 has been done with bots (no mods)

I dont remember if this is before of after they stopped carrying objects during alarms tho.

[tardy ingot]

Realistically
Yes

Its just unnecessary pain

[wild flare]

I did r2e1 with bots, although i cannot recommend it

[prime musk]

it has been completed in latest patch by at least 2 people (darksaid and goat)

[edgy veldt]

Dang ok

The most difficult part of the game

[tiny wyvern]

The suffering most likely won't make you better at the game

[edgy veldt]

Friends

[tiny wyvern]

Just lfg

[wild flare]

Lfg exist

[edgy veldt]

True true

[tardy ingot]

@wild flare oh damn you did?

I only remembered you doing R5E1

sick

[wild flare]

No, i did r2e1 too, i was heated af after it

[edgy veldt]

People probably can’t speed run this level lol

[wild flare]

I did it after doing r4 b tiers iirc

[tardy ingot]

Hm?

[prime musk]

you'd be surprised

[tardy ingot]

R2E1 has been done in ~18 min

[tiny wyvern]

eva is a speedrunner

so um... yea

[prime musk]

the skill ceiling in this game is actually insane and it is part of what makes it fun

[edgy veldt]

Lfg experience usually is some guy joins with no mic and does the level for you while I watch from a distance 😅

I try to get some attempts before I go to lfg

[wild flare]

You can ask to not be carried

[tiny wyvern]

Not that you'll get carried much in R2E1

Everyone kind of needs to do their best

[edgy veldt]

I do, people don’t really listen

[edgy veldt]

Fair

[wild flare]

But players attempting r2e1 should have decent experience ig

[edgy veldt]

Exactly

[wild flare]

So yeah, not a lvl where you can be heavily carried

[edgy veldt]

mb if I’m bogging down the question chat btw I can move to gtfo chat

[wild flare]

Np

This channel used for speedrunners talks too apparently 😂

[tiny wyvern]

I mean we're currently having some sort of debate in gtfo chat

[prime musk]

ok let's be fair

[tiny wyvern]

You can stay here

[tardy ingot]

I mean if you join r2e1 realistically you should be good enough that a carry isnt happening

Most people arent and have to get carried tho

[prime musk]

this is just gtfo chat 2

[tardy ingot]

We just chat about stuff here and there now considering the channel is read only xD

[tardy ingot]

Gtfo chat 3*

Spoiler chat is 2

[prime musk]

gtfo chat 4

[wild flare]

Rip speedrunners chat 🫡

[prime musk]

general is number 3

[hardy grotto]

Gtfo chat 3 but it’s always the same people in all chats

[tardy ingot]

No

Thats weird territory

[hardy grotto]

Having multiple convos

[prime musk]

least schizophrenic gtfo players

[tardy ingot]

So true

[errant dome]

there are only 10 people in this server we know this

[tardy ingot]

you and the 9 pitsky alts

[fathom ice]

i saw u launch

and i knew you'd join

[errant dome]

im bored man

ive just been mostly studying lately

[fathom ice]

r4e1 but ure the wave clear less go

[errant dome]

i love exams

[errant dome]

time to die

[prime musk]

sky
r4e1 duo except we both play bosskill and codehunt and kill moms

[fathom ice]

no

[past mesa]

We love you too

[prime musk]

why do you never say yes to my terrible ideas

[hardy grotto]

Jish im tired

[past mesa]

Yes

[past mesa]

Hi tired I am jish

[prime musk]

ok i host im not putting up with 300 ping

[hardy grotto]

hi jish

[upper ginkgo]

all I see are red names

[tardy ingot]

Hi

[digital mural]

Hi

[wild flare]

If you REALLY want to try it, you can watch this, it inspired me to do bot clear after almost giving up when i just started trying

https://youtu.be/f4W6W9kzfCc?si=6eDWcFzGA_JvUy3K

[frail heart]

whos fault is that

[hardy grotto]

Hani’s

[edgy veldt]

Ooh yes thank you

[errant dome]

but im not red :(

[edgy veldt]

I’m not great at the game yet so I’ll probably try lfg at some point but hopefully this helps a bit

[fathom ice]

should've payed more attention in class

[errant dome]

no

[wild flare]

Yeah, do not rush it, i left after r2d2, cleared whole r3 and r4b tiers and then returned to r2e1

[low radish]

Is R8B3 a 10 code uplink or 12

[frail heart]

10

[noble folio]

is modding allowed in this game?

[sick mauve]

yes but not publicly in this server

[digital mural]

Only Quality of Life

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[noble folio]

ohh thats nice

[sick mauve]

🙂

[noble folio]

i got my buddies now that want to play the game and we are like 5-8 people wondering if we can mod it then play all together
thanks for the info 🫡

[digital mural]

There is a 8 player lobby mod

[raven birch]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[sick mauve]

it’s a little jank sometimes but much fun

[tardy ingot]

There is a mod for more players

But:

1. it might break the game in some cases
2. it completely breaks the games balance. It basically makes it a meme to play with 8 vs 4 people

[wild flare]

Iirc there are at least 1 modded rundown designed for 8 players

[frail heart]

pretty sure tartarus is the only one designed around 8 players

[little pilot]

there is another mod, i don't remember the name

[wild flare]

I want to watch this shitshow on yt now 😂

[tardy ingot]

it also isnt even remotely balanced for 8 new players

[frail heart]

yeah obv

[noble folio]

thanks for the inputs again we gon try it anyway seems more fun with the boys
we got 2 linux users already and they are having fun already just using those terminals

[wild flare]

Okay, i watched some reactor lvl on tartarus mod, holy shit, waves are insane

[frail heart]

i shouldve recorded my clears on it

its pretty fun

[wild flare]

Immediately almost spawn cap, giants, hybrids, Tank, nightmares

On first wave, fun fun

[frail heart]

i think the spawn cap is doubled

[wild flare]

Oh shit

[fathom ice]

u have 8 ppl so

and guns are buffed i think?

[frail heart]

i dont think so

[fathom ice]

idr honestly

been a while

[frail heart]

pretty sure they are fairly close to vanilla

apart from like scatter

[little pilot]

spawn cap is around ~2.5 times vanilla

scatter does not exist in tartarus

it is a lie

[frail heart]

ripp

[wild flare]

Bruh, surge alarm go crazy

[sick mauve]

i’ve been playing rundownX with lobby expansion, it’s not balanced for it but also really good use of it

class 80 goes hard

[wild flare]

Excuse me wat

[frail heart]

whoever the fuck made this should never make a modded rundown again

imagine putting time and effort into that dogshit

[sick mauve]

rude

[wild flare]

I hope it is 80 1 circle cluster scans?

[sick mauve]

they all appear at once for the record

[frail heart]

oh damn

tbh thats not as bad ngl

[wild flare]

Ah, like r8b4 sec

I legit thought it is 80 different sets of scans

[tardy ingot]

isnt that just an omega extreme cluster then ?

[sick mauve]

play it for yourselves

[wild flare]

W8, how big room should be? Or scans just literally touching each other filling all free space?

Or it appears on long corridor like room

[digital mural]

I'm surprised no one has done a level that is just a class 100 with a ton of freaky enemies

[wild flare]

💀

Well, if you have hp/ammo dispensers it is just endurance test

[low radish]

Imagine a mother alarm

[sick mauve]

god forbid

[low radish]

baby surge

[wild flare]

Babies genocide

[digital mural]

Thats a thing already

[low radish]

Scout surge

[burnt inlet]

r2c2 solo any specific tips?

[digital mural]

Projekt Thermonuclear has one

Baby surge

[wild flare]

True solo?

[digital mural]

In a bridge

[sick mauve]

just an average day in modded

[burnt inlet]

bots solo

[low radish]

💀

[low radish]

what level

[wild flare]

Oh boy

[tardy ingot]

use hammer for 1 easy 1 shots or knife for easy error melee

be prepared to shoot and loot

surviving first alarm is generally the hardest part personally

[digital mural]

@grizzled widget can tell you
I forgor which

[wild flare]

I have map with written route by myself just for this lvl

[burnt inlet]

goddamn it i have to give up spear 😭

[digital mural]

Good

[tardy ingot]

and check with term if you need to go into Zone 116

if yes, welp gl
if no, avoid it

[burnt inlet]

welp

[tardy ingot]

(you need to go into 116 if theres more than 2 IDs in it iirc)

[burnt inlet]

is it gonna be worse than r2d1?

[tardy ingot]

not rly

R2C2 if you dont get stressed out is honestly quite chill

first alarm is the one part that requires some decent play

116 just drags the level out

by a lot

[burnt inlet]

0 ids

[little pilot]

initially i wanted to add a surge to tartarus but i quickly realized that 60+ enemies alive constantly is a very bad idea

tho there are moments where the enemy count is well above 50

[digital mural]

If Gaggleland taught me something
Is that GTFO shits itself if theres more than 50 enemies at the same time

[tardy ingot]

tgb

when baby blood door

with 200 babies

[little pilot]

no

r6d2 full speed is enough

[grizzled widget]

b1

[halcyon current]

Hel Shotgun go brrrt

[burnt inlet]

took me 10 mins to die 😭

i blame wrong loadout

had mines instead of burst

[tardy ingot]

you definetly want mines

[burnt inlet]

oh

[tardy ingot]

also you rly dont wanna take 10 minutes to get to the first alarm

but now you should roughly know where to go

so it should take less

👍

[burnt inlet]

i mean i was running as quickly as possible (had furthest cell spawn and i ran with fog thingy for like 1 min)

[burnt inlet]

ive opened it before so first few rooms ik what to do

[long nimbus]

Do foam portion boosters affect door foam in any way?

[tardy ingot]

uuuh

no?

you shoot the same amount

but it costs less if you do a charge of foam

[long nimbus]

So it does increase efficiency when foaming doors? I can't tell if it's supposed to just be more blobs when foaming the ground

[tardy ingot]

its neither

you just have access to more foam

since you use less when charging

you can foam doors for longer

but tbh, not necessary to bring

[digital mural]

Charging foam and shooting costs less foam ammo

Thats all it does

[long nimbus]

Oh that is very good then. I can fully foam a door with 6 ammo instead of 8?

[past mesa]

Yes

Essentially you just want to full charge

The c foam launcher

[wild flare]

you need 9 blobs for fully foaming door

without boosters

idk why full charge on cfoam launcher consume 12 tools instead of 9 tbh

[hard nexus]

lmao

this is the first time i see a giant stuck on top of something

[wild flare]

i saw that multiple times on r8c1

on alarm at ov door

[wet bear]

You wanted to say baby shooter blood door right? 🤔

[errant dome]

its specifically to make bots be terrible with c-foam obviously

bots are prisoners, they have no rights as schaffer said

[wild flare]

[errant dome]

tho tbf even if they only shot 9 shots at door idk if it'd be worth giving em foam

maybe on some specific missions

[north fractal]

guys what is the big blob at the ceiling at one of the rooms of the r1c2''dont look up ?'' lore wise

[digital mural]

No one knows

[north fractal]

thx i guess

[sick mauve]

the goop

[frail heart]

my shid

[sudden nexus]

so when two sleepers love eachother very much...

[agile loom]

hello got a question regarding a achement my group is trying to get, the demolitions expert achievement after getting 20 kills do you need to complete the level ? or if your squads wipes do you still get it ?

[digital mural]

You still get it

[crystal pilot]

do chargers not have a heashoit multiplier?

[digital mural]

Nope

[crystal pilot]

it's still worth it to shoot the head for stagger though right?

[tiny wyvern]

Just do limb breaks

For that

Just imagine the chargers lacking heads of any kind

[crystal pilot]

why?

[tiny wyvern]

stagger?

[digital mural]

For easy stagger

[crystal pilot]

isn't breaking the head the same thing?

[tiny wyvern]

They don't have a goddamn head

That's their entire gimmick

[tardy ingot]

they do

its just not a crit spot

you can still break it and get a limb break

[tiny wyvern]

wait wut

[tardy ingot]

but idk why youd need a limb break on a charger

just kill it @crystal pilot

[digital mural]

I was going to say that

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah but he did ask for stagger
...Isn't the head like really small?

[digital mural]

Its decent size

[tardy ingot]

its unironically quite big

but like

why

[digital mural]

Big head small brains

[tardy ingot]

you get a soft stagger before head breaks

and it likely dies if you are able to break head easily

[minor fractal]

It is easier to break head while going for lines tbf, but it's not like it's very impactful

You just assume a limb might break when you shoot.

[prime musk]

it matters for if you're meleeing ig

with hammer it kinda doesn't matter though

[crystal pilot]

what do secondary objectives give you?

[digital mural]

Nothing

[glad sun]

Skill

[digital mural]

Its an extra challenge

[crystal pilot]

no palletes?

[prime musk]

no extras cosmetics

[digital mural]

No

[crystal pilot]

bruh

i need ma bling

[prime musk]

it just gives you the completion screen and completion number on expedition select

[hard nexus]

achievements if u do them all

[crystal pilot]

Guys I still think the hel shotgun is ass

[hard nexus]

smh misinfo

[prime musk]

yeah eventually you'll come around to it. took me maybe 200 hours in game to get it and start playing it even vaguely correctly

[native sun]

Roll the tapes. Show this prisoner a HEL Shotgun clip

@crystal pilot #gtfo-media message

[digital mural]

Sleepyboi take

[sick mauve]

you get 0.2 more gamer cred

[hard nexus]

correct

[crystal pilot]

are the altr rundowns the same as the original rundowns?

[grizzled widget]

yes and no and no.

they are mostly identical to the originals gameplay wise, barring some tiles and enemy encounters, as they had to rebuild the levels in the new engine (so they couldn't just use the old levellayout variables)

in terms of story/lore, they are a different universe.

[digital mural]

Spoilers

[crystal pilot]

i already know the spoilers its ok

[grizzled widget]

alt://r6 is entirely different storywise to ogr6, and this is mainly why alt://r7 doesn't exist.

alt://r6 schaeffer doesn't declare war against the warden, so R7, the rundown where schaeffer is waging war against the warden, doesn't happen

r8 is these two universes, OG and ALT://, and a dozen others merging into one big plate of 🍝

the reason for this is related to the matter wave projector, and its continued misuse by humanity, dating back to when it was first discovered.

[crystal pilot]

also where is the destination?

is it on mars?

do we get tped to mars?

[grizzled widget]

destination is a planet in the butterfly nebula, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_6302

[crystal pilot]

oh

[grizzled widget]

however, it also is not in our own universe.

the destination we travel to is in a universe where time as a constant, flows 85x faster than our own.

during the OG universe's EF01 expedition, bishop was "gone from earth" for a period of 2 weeks, but he spent/experienced two years on destination

[digital mural]

Then they died

[grizzled widget]

all but bishop, yes.

[crystal pilot]

so when we're tped and we spend 5 mins there we spent 85x5 minutes in our dimension

as an example

[grizzled widget]

if you spend 5 minutes in gameplay on destination, the warden was waiting for 5x85 minutes for you to get back to issue your next order.

[crystal pilot]

i haven't reached those missions

why do we get tped?

[digital mural]

If only the warden knew how to do his job
We would not get stranded in Destination like 8 times

[digital mural]

Sometimes by accident
Others by using the MWP

[grizzled widget]

sometimes due to malfunctions with the matter wave projector, sometimes intentially.

[grizzled widget]

using project insight's reverse-engineered collector teleporters

[grizzled widget]

destination is first introduced in rundown 6.

[zenith garden]

the game wont let me and my friend start a game, anybody knows how to fix this

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

[grizzled widget]

do you both own the game?

[digital mural]

Pinned thread

[crystal pilot]

I saw a video in which the characters are all left to die

which ending is that?

[digital mural]

R8E1

Thats the ALT team

OG team survives

[crystal pilot]

wtf happened?

[grizzled widget]

that is the ending of r8. the ALT:// squad are left to die as OG steal the data cubes and leave to the clean worldline.

[digital mural]

That happened

[digital mural]

Also there is only one ending

[crystal pilot]

but what were the alt team hoping for?

[digital mural]

Survive

Go to a clean worldline

[grizzled widget]

schaeffer had intended for all of them to leave together, but OG killed one (or both) schaeffers, and impersonated him over the hearsay network to trick ALT://

[crystal pilot]

oh but the original dudes got there first?

because they were both in the same dimension

is this it?

[digital mural]

They got first to KDS Deep and betrayed the ALT team

[grizzled widget]

we both arrive at the teleporter in KDS-DEEP, on different sides of the same door.

[zenith garden]

yea we're in the lobby, made our kit and everything but the game wont launch. when i press to drop it just does nothing

[crystal pilot]

that lore is so cool ngl

[grizzled widget]

r8 as a whole has ALT, OG, and a ton of other worldlines/universes physically merged together

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635
First thread

[crystal pilot]

why did they betray them though?

or was it a situation when only one of them could survive?

[grizzled widget]

it's hard to say. OG isn't exactly a trustful bunch, neither are they morally "good"