the first alarm uses your resources, but you shouldn't wake up the scout room
#gtfo-related-questions
peak tinsel
Right, that's probably what we should do, so many scouts though, and it's filled with big sleepers too, maybe we'll just have to git gud with stealth killing scouts, nevertheless thank youu
prime musk
failing to kill scouts in stealth is one of the most punishing mistakes, and it is a crucial skill in this game to kill scouts
tiny wyvern
If things get too hard you can always lfg/matchmake
Matchmake can sometimes get you people fresh out of R1A1
peak tinsel
If things get too hard you can always lfg/matchmake
Yeah we'll just have to work with that, the bots have terrible aim and do so much friendly fire
tiny wyvern
What guns do your bots have
digital mural
They dont have shotguns do they?
prime musk
the friendly fire is kinda a positioning issue, if you play around them it shouldn't be an issue
peak tinsel
They dont have shotguns do they?
Hahah we got rid of that a while ago, they go crazy with shotguns and friendly fire
prime musk
(doing so is kinda hard though)
tiny wyvern
especially the last part
when the uplinks happen
peak tinsel
Would you recommend specific guns or toold for this level? We're running 3 turrets(1 hel two shotgun) and a bio tracker
tiny wyvern
Don't use shotgun turrets
prime musk
yeah swap all turrets to burst sentries
tiny wyvern
Just take bursts all of them
Give bot the biotracker cause they can use it infinitely better than you can so long as you can see the enemies
digital mural
No wonder you are running out of tool
Shotgun sentries are a waste of tool for no value
peak tinsel
Okay thanks will do
I'm using a sawed of shotgun and a precision rifle, the thermal scope really helps and the sawed off kills big ones easily, any recommendations there?
prime musk
sawed off good
peak tinsel
Shotgun sentries are a waste of tool for no value
Burst sentries it is then
tiny wyvern
Not much
PR is weird, but it's not incredibly bad for that level
prime musk
pr not really necessary on cx, there are no shadows and not much darkness
prime musk
would suggest HEL Gun instead, it oneshots the flyers in the desert dimension
tiny wyvern
would suggest HEL Gun instead, it oneshots the flyers in the desert dimension
You do have a big boi at the end tho don't you?
Usually hel rifle does better against him
prime musk
You do have a big boi at the end tho don't you?
not in cX
tiny wyvern
Was d4?
prime musk
d1
peak tinsel
Alright hel rifle then, the flyers in themselves are not the problem, it's just by the time we get to them our resources are exhausted
prime musk
hel rifle is a good choice
digital mural
If you are low on res you can loot while you run at the terminal
tiny wyvern
Oh right wave rampup
We know it exists now
digital mural
Theres literally lockers everywhere
prime musk
do uplinks and loot inbetween to not need backtracking
peak tinsel
whats a wave rampup? lol im not aware
prime musk
enemies spawn in waves
digital mural
whats a wave rampup? lol im not aware
The more time you spend the more enemies they spawn each wave
digital mural
Oh right wave rampup
We know it exists now
We already knew a long time ago tho
frail heart
make sure to grab the resouces in the first zone there is a 4 use ammo
peak tinsel
right right, also how do you deal with charger scouts? its so difficult to stealth kill them we have never done it
digital mural
Shoot them
fathom ice
u can foam them
peak tinsel
back? does the hel rifle work?
frail heart
right right, also how do you deal with charger scouts? its so difficult to steal...
kill all the other scouts then shoot it
frail heart
back? does the hel rifle work?
yes in the back
digital mural
u can foam them
They are not running foam
fathom ice
oops
tiny wyvern
Pray for cfoam nade rng?
peak tinsel
would foam be useful in this level? cause lot of scouts, but 3 turrets help tho
frail heart
would foam be useful in this level? cause lot of scouts, but 3 turrets help tho
na an extra turret is better than foam
tiny wyvern
The last part wants three sentries
digital mural
would foam be useful in this level? cause lot of scouts, but 3 turrets help tho
Sentry > foam for CX
peak tinsel
The last part wants three sentries
okok
fathom ice
hmmm
peak tinsel
mines for what tho, scout kills?
fathom ice
I did it last time I played it felt pretty comfy
tiny wyvern
I did it last time I played it felt pretty comfy
yeah but for fresh clear it sucks
especially during the last part
fathom ice
I'd never trust my team to place 3 good sentries I'll be honest
frail heart
mines for what tho, scout kills?
you can mine for first alarm technically and if scouts go off
digital mural
Thats just trust issues
frail heart
theres also doors you can mine in the other dimension but eh
peak tinsel
theres also doors you can mine in the other dimension but eh
we didnt make it very far in the other dimension lol, will try with 3 sentries now
frail heart
3 sentries is good
fathom ice
wish cx would not be a thing
digital mural
peak tinsel
wish cx would not be a thing
whats the significance of the cx?
like why is it called that
digital mural
It was levels added after the Rundown came out
fathom ice
ext.
prime musk
weird all things considered
tiny wyvern
it used to be dx right before it alted
prime musk
r4 extension and r5 extension didn't get the Xs
fathom ice
shh
tiny wyvern
All the alts got shifted up a notch
digital mural
where did ax go
It went to ligma
fathom ice
balls
digital mural
Jobs
peak tinsel
thanks for the advice guys, will give it a try again
grizzled patrol
r4 extension and r5 extension didn't get the Xs
Ngl i still cant believe that we Got DX over R6E1
topaz anvil
r7e1 did it
Was r7e1 an extension?
fathom ice
no
topaz anvil
frail heart
Was r7e1 an extension?
I mean that it was a tier “1” level not apart of story
Like r6
topaz anvil
o
burnt inlet
is there any "hidden" commands for terminals or are all commands listed with "command"?
tardy ingot
There are hidden commands
Scaler made a video about them
I made videos about them (using them) in runs
They should be on the wiki probably?
burnt inlet
interesting, could you link the wiki?
grizzled patrol
They should be on the wiki probably?
i dont think it so. dunno if it even should be on it, since beside the first one the rest of them were datamined
tiny wyvern
That's the link for scaler's video
...Try not to grief new people when you use it
The last thing I need to hear from a fresh pub again is
"Oh R1A1's super hard the fog comes up after do the HSU team scan and some spiky enemy starts spawning"
frail heart
i dont think it so. dunno if it even should be on it, since beside the first one...
the devs wanted people to find them
burnt inlet
https://youtu.be/WLcof_vzsl4?si=0IheqYDcU5RXL_rz
tyty
tiny wyvern
They sort of annouced the existence of light test
I remember seeing an annoucement about it
grizzled patrol
the devs wanted people to find them
yeah i remember red teasing them, but it were for the second wave of the codes wasnt it?
frail heart
docred
grizzled patrol
easier to type for me idk
hardy grotto
shoutout to beep ruining it
by just replying with the entire code docred was trying to type out
hardy grotto
a hero
grizzled patrol
and beep is...
another banished soul 
soft crater
burnt inlet
The last thing I need to hear from a fresh pub again is
"Oh R1A1's super hard th...
trolling friends go hard 🗣️ 🔥
grizzled patrol
silent shooting clueless friends is priceless 
burnt inlet
you can silent shoot?
tiny wyvern
When you're not host yes
Although it's hard to do as far as I'm aware
grizzled patrol
as a client yes. but its bug abusing, so point and laugh at them if they do it to scouts
tiny wyvern
as a client yes. but its bug abusing, so point and laugh at them if they do it t...
Silent shot scatter for Mom
burnt inlet
theyll silent shoot me with scatter
grizzled patrol
When you're not host yes
Although it's hard to do as far as I'm aware
hate it when it hapens when i try to pull the room
tiny wyvern
Pulls room with scatter and silent shot
manage to kill 2 shooters and aggro a giant who promptly licks you, downs you
your teammates thought you pulled successfully so they go and cfoam and mine door (They're pubs)
The mine blows the giant's head off
then the rest of the room wakes up
burnt inlet
just play with bots they can silent shoot 24/7
grizzled patrol
@tiny wyvern i dont remember if its vanilla or betterbots, but they can also burst cancel dont they?
grizzled patrol
fuck burst canceling BC. i want to burst cancel Douple tap for a shitty DMR
tiny wyvern
<@429598493460660225> i dont remember if its vanilla or betterbots, but they can...
I recall them burst cancelling in vanilla
But then again, i haven't played with bots for a long time
Hirnu should know
burnt inlet
im pretty sure thats the reason you play BC with them, they can two tap and stop shooting (at least if the advice given to me is right)
errant dome
<@429598493460660225> i dont remember if its vanilla or betterbots, but they can...
its vanilla
tiny wyvern
thx star
errant dome
they will only use 2 bullets on a charger for example
its one of the main reasons why bc is gud on bots
soft crater
they will only use 2 bullets on a charger for example
Mistakes were made. The bot started full autoing it into my back.
errant dome
just dont stand in front of the bot!
hoary mason
...Try not to grief new people when you use it
Only host can input them rn.
tiny wyvern
Only host can input them rn.
Yeah...
That didn't stop people from trying
And if I remember correctly, the fix didn't work at first so better safe than sorry
kind shadow
do i have to get passed with R1 to be able to do other maps?
tiny wyvern
do i have to get passed with R1 to be able to do other maps?
No, Each Rundown already has an A1 unlocked
You can join any level, but joining something far beyond your capabilities isn't going to end well
As and Bs should be fine for most beginners
kind shadow
ill try my luck lol
tiny wyvern
Just refrain from Ds and E levels before you get a good grip on the game
You can always look for your own lobby by making your own vc and invite link
In the lfg chats
Do keep in mind we're on weekdays and I believe most of the EU US folks are off, so you might have some trouble finding people
Be patient 🙂
kind shadow
i wouldnt expect anyone in the us to be on rn since its 3 in the morning
wild flare
Basically your journey probably will be something like this:
- Maybe Stuck on r1c1
- maybe stuck on r2c2, later r2 lvls are even harder, so you could skip them and go to r3
- whole r3 is easy, except last lvl (and ending of r3c1)
kind shadow
ima try it one more time with bots becuase i did go far with them once
wild flare
Also dont do r1c1 with bots 
tiny wyvern
If you want to I'm sure dark can give you some pointers on how to make bots work better
He's the bot solo expert
grizzled patrol
Basically your journey probably will be something like this:
- Maybe Stuck on r...
R3D1 is pbly going to be carried by pros Not knowing that Poster is a beginner lmao
kind shadow
i managed to find some people lol
tiny wyvern
on matchmaking?
burnt inlet
Also dont do r1c1 with bots <:SantonianWhatElse:813148031867158548>
r1c1 with bots ain’t that bad
wild flare
Not enjoyable experience for new players
burnt inlet
I mean once you get the loadout fixed it’s not that bad
kind shadow
on matchmaking?
yes
bitter verge
r1c1 with bots ain’t that bad
did r8b2 main with bots, sweet mother of Jesus.
horrible.
wild flare
What exactly was horrible? This lvl is not so tough
R8c1 is FAR worse due to rng if you want to try it with bots
fathom ice
R8c1 is FAR worse due to rng if you want to try it with bots
how's ur r8b4
wild flare
how's ur r8b4
I have to work overtime for whole week, so i could try it only on weekends
bitter verge
scans are all over the place, bots can t shoot for shit
fathom ice
^ did u do main only
burnt inlet
did r8b2 main with bots, sweet mother of Jesus.
I’m not that far into it but I could imagine 😭
bitter verge
did main only because I had to go to uni
burnt inlet
scans are all over the place, bots can t shoot for shit
And weird bot pathing
bitter verge
I ll go back for secondary
bitter verge
Almost did secondary s first VI s1(?) Door with absolutely 0 PREP
fathom ice
and it's just easier
bitter verge
No sentry, no foam, no mines
fathom ice
u dropped ur 👑
bitter verge
had a bit of luck on scans I guess
burnt inlet
No sentry, no foam, no mines
I run all bio for the bots and I (lies I cope with burst sentry at every door and room)
bitter verge
it replaces last stage with smth else
Last stage from main?
wild flare
I’m not that far into it but I could imagine 😭
Dw, there are far far harder lvls, if you want to do it with bots, i would rate r8b2 as 5-6/10 on difficulty scale
burnt inlet
And what would you rate r2d2 with bots?
bitter verge
Dw, there are far far harder lvls, if you want to do it with bots, i would rate ...
Yeah it s not that difficult, with players it would be piss easu
wild flare
Rn it would be 7-8/10, back then it was like 9/10
burnt inlet
Well good for me I got people to run it with😭
wild flare
Reactors with bots sucks
bitter verge
isn't it a t scan or smth
You talking about last stage as in last door before extract or last data cube stage
fathom ice
data cube
bitter verge
what does it replace?
burnt inlet
Reactors with bots sucks
Yep, r1c1 (or whatever that one was) was just running back and forward
bitter verge
boss fight w?
fathom ice
not spoiling obv
bitter verge
i ve faced most bosses
fathom ice
u can go get it then
wild flare
Yep, r1c1 (or whatever that one was) was just running back and forward
R1c1 havent codehunting, so it is easier
burnt inlet
R1c1 havent codehunting, so it is easier
Yep
bitter verge
squidward house
bitter verge
Epic
fathom ice
it's free ye
burnt inlet
Id rate r1c1 like a 5/10 on my personal scale where r2c2 (or whatever the error alarm is called) is from the limited info I got from quitting it 10 mins in is 8/10 and r2d2 is 10/10
frail heart
Id rate r1c1 like a 5/10 on my personal scale where r2c2 (or whatever the error ...
have fun with the e tiers
bitter verge
There are crap ton of resources before boss fight
dunno how stuffed secondary is post first scan
wild flare
Id rate r1c1 like a 5/10 on my personal scale where r2c2 (or whatever the error ...
Welp, r4 and r5 have a LOT of error alarms on it so
bitter verge
have fun with the e tiers
Finished r4e1 yesterday
wild flare
R2c2 would be a joke compared to them
burnt inlet
Welp, r4 and r5 have a LOT of error alarms on it so
Future me problem
burnt inlet
have fun with the e tiers
Ignorance is bliss
wild flare
I feel like r2c2 is first real knowledge check in how to use terminal fast and efficient, also preparing your route
Cause you dont need to go into all zones
tiny wyvern
Cause you dont need to go into all zones
wait you don't?
burnt inlet
I feel like r2c2 is first real knowledge check in how to use terminal fast and e...
Im not good at either
tiny wyvern
Isn't there only barely enough IDs for you that if you get bad rng you are supposed to go to all zones?
wild flare
Quite often you can skip 1 zone
burnt inlet
I thought about just running into all the zones
wild flare
Well, back in time i reset this lvl, until i got good rng xd
civic wave
you can always skip one zone iirc, but there is also the thing of you RNG roll something that requires you going into 2 zones instead of one, prolonging the level
wild flare
I just reseted, until i could skip zone, where you need another cell to access
burnt inlet
I might do it with a terminal god then, I forgot how to open logs yesterday which was interesting
(Was trioing r2d2)
wild flare
you can always skip one zone iirc, but there is also the thing of you RNG roll s...
I think you mean to always skip zone with resources (and another cell iirc) ,but personally i went there and just restock
Spend a little time, but amount of resources inside is fair
burnt inlet
The one thing I like about bots is that they can find the objective item as long as both of you are in the room
Picking it up is a coin flip
wild flare
I am double checking Scaler guide, you need 7 ids, there are total 9 in 4 zones, it can be 1-3 ids per zone, so with good rng you can skip 1 zone
wild flare
Picking it up is a coin flip
It is not, they cannot pick items, while alarm is up
bitter verge
@fathom ice how terrible is r8c1?
native sun
Best part of R8C1 is when secondary starts a fog cycle where every few minutes the map gets covered in fog so you're encouraged to AFK for a minute or so everytime it happens
bitter verge
not doable with bots
Not for bots, with players
fathom ice
it is free
wild flare
Best part of R8C1 is when secondary starts a fog cycle where every few minutes t...
But fog cycle is always on lvl, no?
bitter verge
Gonna need to lfg it
frail heart
But fog cycle is always on lvl, no?
yeah
civic wave
ya
native sun
But fog cycle is always on lvl, no?
idr I never want to touch that level again
civic wave
omg misinfo kill this man
wild flare
😂
jagged shore
yeah it happens on opening up the first sec door lol
wild flare
Same
fathom ice
misinfo by tru goes hard
frail heart
kind of a banger speed
civic wave
where is the real tru
jagged shore
secondary just does pretty much nothing
wild flare
It affects ov
civic wave
what have you done to him
jagged shore
yeah
pretty much nothing, that's what i said :)
native sun
I guess I must've just been fast enough to complete secondary by the time the first fog cycle started 💪 😎 💪
bitter verge
What about r8d1?
tiny wyvern
r8d1 is stealth orientated
fathom ice
it's free
native sun
Epic level, I love The Pit
wild flare
I am actually a bit pissed about secondary r8c1, command on terminal was air ventilation or reset ventilation or somethinh like that and turns out it does nothing on fog
tiny wyvern
So you should be fine
fathom ice
a bit tedious
bitter verge
Ah, on topic of stealth
I visited r8b1 secondary, yeah, I love a room full of 30 mobs
native sun
One of the best zones in the game
civic wave
I visited r8b1 secondary, yeah, I love a room full of 30 mobs
it is an old way of life
native sun
Wish we had more like that
wild flare
I visited r8b1 secondary, yeah, I love a room full of 30 mobs
I almost choked on this room
bitter verge
I did choke halfway
wild flare
I didnt expect THAT much enemies inside
native sun
NOT WITH BOTS
25% fewer players to make a mistake? Sounds easier to me
bitter verge
Lost a lot of doors stupidly
civic wave
25% fewer players to make a mistake? Sounds easier to me
25% fewer players means you have 3 quarters of the players you originally had, thus 3 players instead of 4
this definitely isn't the real tru0067
civic wave
trickery is afoot
fathom ice
tru is gone 😔
native sun
25% fewer players means you have 3 quarters of the players you originally had, t...
I count as 9 players
So it goes from 12 to 9
civic wave
nothing gets past these eyes, always scanning the horizon line
native sun
for like 10 months?
R8E2
pine zephyr
is the diifference that big?
burnt inlet
isnt that the one astral spiff did?
I think he spent on r8 total like 1.5 years (could be wrong tho)
And that was no community help
native sun
is the diifference that big?
Yes.
pine zephyr
can anyone explain how exactly teh difficulty curve works? is every rundown harder thann the last? is R8A1 miles harder than R1A1
native sun
Hardest level in the game vs probably like 30-40th
burnt inlet
can anyone explain how exactly teh difficulty curve works? is every rundown hard...
R3 is easier from what I’ve heard than R2
R2 was kinda just a grind for a person who finished R1 with bots (at least in my experience)
(Still on R2)
native sun
can anyone explain how exactly teh difficulty curve works? is every rundown hard...
For levels within a rundown:
E > D > C > B > A and generally 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
(So C3 is generally harder than C1 etc.)
Adding extra objectives generally adds some difficulty, so B3 PE (all objectives) might be harder than C1 etc.
As for rundown vs rundown, generally no, not a crazy amount
tiny wyvern
They do get more complex as you go though
So do keep that in mind
native sun
R7A1 is one of the easier A tiers while R1A1 is one of the harder
burnt inlet
Also once you get going it’s not harder just more complex imo
pine zephyr
R7A1 is one of the easier A tiers while R1A1 is one of the harder
really???
thats a huge surprise
burnt inlet
More time spent prepping
native sun
Statements like "R3 and R1 are easy compared to R2" are generally just secretly saying "R2 has an E-tier and a D2 while R1 and R3 do not"
pine zephyr
R1a1 wasnt hard - i just took it really slow, stealthing every room entirely, with the exception of the 2 alarms
again. 1.5 hours
native sun
R4A1 and R5A1 are harder if you do their secondary objectives, but yeah, R1A1 isn't slouching
pine zephyr
that being said, i didnt clear the zone 52c room
native sun
For levels within a rundown:
E > D > C > B > A and generally 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
(So C...
One exception to all this is R8. The "left side" of R8 is generally pretty easy, while the "right side" is generally pretty hard.
So R8E1 is abnormally easy for an E-tier, while R8E2 is the hardest level in the game.
burnt inlet
R1a1 wasnt hard - i just took it really slow, stealthing every room entirely, wi...
Slight spoiler for upcoming level ||R1 has an error alarm after picking up HSU which can be fixed via a command, ”fried_chicken.exe”. If you don’t input this command a couple of giant shooters will shoot infectious shots at you (don’t input the command as I am lying🤭)||
pine zephyr
this is perfectly random enough to sounds like something that would be incldued ina videogame, while also being sufficiently outlandish for you to have jsut invented that. love it
pine zephyr
i should be going to bed
burnt inlet
Don’t expect to beat it though
pine zephyr
its 4:20 here
pine zephyr
im fnishing my before bed tea
tiny wyvern
Slight spoiler for upcoming level ||R1 has an error alarm after picking up HSU w...
...What did I say about trolling pubs?
burnt inlet
...What did I say about trolling pubs?
I said I’m lying
And you only said smth about the fog command
Not fried chicken
fathom ice
me when i cope
tiny wyvern
(didn't I link you the video)
burnt inlet
(didn't I link you the video)
(Yes)
tiny wyvern
(ok)
pine zephyr
is it possible that we at some point see the entire game cleared solo?
where are we on that front?
fathom ice
it's impossible without cheesing as of now
native sun
it's impossible without cheesing as of now
Which level is impossible without glitches?
fathom ice
or only in theory
was it r7e1?
and r4e1 is also rough
without frame limiting or smth
my b
native sun
Yeah, without cheese is accurate
fathom ice
yee
burnt inlet
What does even frame limiting do?
fathom ice
do not think
frail heart
What does even frame limiting do?
current use rn is to make ladder foam 100% consistent
burnt inlet
Oh ok, I don’t even do that so🤷♂️
frail heart
Oh ok, I don’t even do that so🤷♂️
good lol
civic wave
current use rn is to make ladder foam 100% consistent
was also used for an r4e1 giant kite in reactor
burnt inlet
Would you kite the giants to just not waste resources on them or is it that you just can’t kill them quick enough?
fathom ice
ure sentenced to play the game for 300 more hours ^
and then think about question u asked again
burnt inlet
ure sentenced to play the game for 300 more hours ^
Was gonna anyways
But fuh u mean😭
fathom ice
you'll figure it out
burnt inlet
Is it like that one warden scan after apex door in r1 where like four giants come
But way worse?
tiny wyvern
Is it like that one warden scan after apex door in r1 where like four giants com...
Does the word giant surge incite any fear in you
(It doesn't exist, I just want to know)
burnt inlet
Does the word giant surge incite any fear in you
(It doesn't exist, I just want ...
Kinda if there’s no way to stealth them/not open area
tiny wyvern
Would you kite the giants to just not waste resources on them or is it that you ...
You kite during solos to keep making distance while you shoot your enemies
That way you can kill them while not tanking insane damage
burnt inlet
Fair
I thought kiting was some sort of wizardry but is it just maintaining distance?
burnt inlet
Is that literally all?
tiny wyvern
You lead them on a wild goose chase
burnt inlet
I thought it was like
Some weird tech
Where you just like make them attack
Dodge it
And then run
Or sum like that
Sum hard
But no I’ve been kiting my entire career 😭
tiny wyvern
The others do it more often so they might have better advice on how to do it
I usually am the first to die so I don't know much about kiting
All I know comes from Medic
burnt inlet
Na but like I thought it was some like room specific requirement where you had to like parkour or sum
burnt inlet
I usually am the first to die so I don't know much about kiting
I would say same if my bots didn’t get stuck 24/7
tiny wyvern
Eh OOB stuff is only really good if you're a hide and seek player
burnt inlet
Fair
tiny wyvern
usually they're the folks that know weird spots to camp in
that usually doesn't make things better
Unless you need them to improtu solo they aren't going to come into play much
burnt inlet
Some weird place 10 meters away from any spots opps can be in
tardy ingot
was also used for an r4e1 giant kite in reactor
didnt that one lower it below the base 20 fps
civic wave
more like 7-8 iirc
wild flare
was also used for an r4e1 giant kite in reactor
How it affected giant kite? They whiff lick attacks?
civic wave
basically slows them down (especially on doors) so you can get more distance from them before starting reactor waves to clear 512 and mom zone before they get to you
wild flare
Huh
grizzled patrol
They receive less Game Updates, so it Takes more time between actions Like breaking a door or jumping down the ladder
wild flare
Is there any cfoam products on r8b4 btw?
burnt inlet
I forgot there were checkpoints in levels 😭
wild flare
You will meet them on r6-r8
glad sun
When doing the achievement for clearing a C level with no tool, does having bio out and left clicking with no enemies invalidate it? 
Because that's what it seems like happened
frail heart
When doing the achievement for clearing a C level with no tool, does having bio ...
Yes
bc ur using the active ability of the tool
tardy ingot
well you can carry a bio tracker, just dont ping
burnt inlet
bc ur using the active ability of the tool
So with just scanner open but not clicking is it invalidated?
frail heart
no
burnt inlet
Everyone on bio (except bots i presume
tardy ingot
tbf you could also just take cfoam or similar on a level where its not worth to use
like if you do r1c1 without tool
then you just take 4 foam
burnt inlet
Does meleeing the air make my stamina drain?
frail heart
Does meleeing the air make my stamina drain?
only if you charge
burnt inlet
So just tapping doesn’t do anything?
burnt inlet
W’s
frail heart
check out the wiki
tardy ingot
@sturdy glen honestly the biggest time save is simply full sending the error path and dark mom path (hence the 5 hours of runs, gotta be clean, survive and get res. And then survive more)
The only consistent time we get is from also pulling the other blood door in mom zone (grab key into insta pull)
I personally think the consistent strat for R6% or full game wouldnt go into dark mom zone sadly
sturdy glen
I think we always played those 2 safe but I didn't think it was that safe lol
I did blood door so I had no idea ig
frail heart
I think we always played those 2 safe but I didn't think it was that safe lol
i full send the 2 mom 2 cscout zone solo in 20 seconds haha
sturdy glen
Yea we never do that shit cuz it was for fun lol
tardy ingot
yea
frail heart
yeah we just wanted a decent run
tardy ingot
the stupidest thing
frail heart
with a fun strat
tardy ingot
frostys full send is the most consistent one
LOL
we have more deaths on bbcs for me and tgb getting railed by error
tardy ingot
I did blood door so I had no idea ig
error path or mom blood doors?
frail heart
error path or mom blood doors?
mom
sturdy glen
Ah you guys send 2 for error?
sturdy glen
error path or mom blood doors?
Mom
tardy ingot
1 goes and helps (quickly) with clearing dark mom entrance (before stleaht scans pop) then goes for mom blood doors as they are both already pulled
the other 2 do stealth scans. once finished 1 goes to extract, other rushes inside
sturdy glen
Makes sense
frail heart
and i literally kite as long as i can in that zone so kenny doesnt get 2 moms and a shit tonne of enemies
sturdy glen
Logs helps a bit too ig
tardy ingot
tbh logs help more with starting mom blood door
as it enables pulling the other blood door quickly aswell
tardy ingot
the bulkhead key is very easy to get with or without (obviously faster with)
tardy ingot
How tf do you guys always end up on a cshotty btw
babies
a million babies
ive unironically been thinking about worse stuff
HAR 💀
we dont need charger clear
sturdy glen
Scatter baby clear ngl
tardy ingot
about 80% of our wipes are on starting blood door
frail heart
Scatter baby clear ngl
no joke like 100 babies
tardy ingot
Scatter baby clear ngl
works, if it isnt 80 at once
we have 80 active enemies most of the time when blood door is pulled
the frames
leave the building
tardy ingot
yea
sturdy glen
Ok that's fair actually
tardy ingot
we are already playing that safer than id want
frail heart
and we gotta clear that shit FAST
tardy ingot
but we use 5 seconds (1 mag of hel shotty) to push the brunt away
honestly that blood door is crazy in a full send
theres like 0 way you do everything thats necessary without someone dying unless you have 20 fps aimbot
frail heart
cause its like 53 babies from blood door + packed room + packed mom room + maybe half mom birth
sturdy glen
I'll have to watch it but I suspect scatter would clear there
tardy ingot
- get key (and get out to pull big blood door)
- get and move cell
- KILL MOM
- kill enough so nobody dies
- get ammo/tool and (med)
frail heart
I'll have to watch it but I suspect scatter would clear there
i can send a clip if you want
tardy ingot
smh
frail heart
fair
tardy ingot
I can stream in a vc if you are available 
sturdy glen
That is even worse
tardy ingot
frail heart
ill see if davinci wont crash trying to import a 3 hour recording
tardy ingot
ill see if davinci wont crash trying to import a 3 hour recording
it wont
frail heart
it wont
it freezes then goes to crash for anything over like a couple hours
but it fixes itself eventually
prime musk
are the hybrids in r2d1 extract dependent on heat ie they just don\t spawn unless crazy rng because heat bug
sturdy glen
Ngl I didn't think the run was bad enough for you guys to spend time on it rn but I was wrong
prime musk
(sorry to crash in)
sturdy glen
What's even left on the list
tardy ingot
Ngl I didn't think the run was bad enough for you guys to spend time on it rn bu...
oh it was less about yours being bad
frosty and me just looked at what seemed fun (and checked out the old run)
frail heart
Ngl I didn't think the run was bad enough for you guys to spend time on it rn bu...
i thought it could always go to sub 10
frail heart
i thought it could always go to sub 10
i also really wanted to run it again
tardy ingot
R1A1, R1B2, R2B2, R2B3, R2C1, R2C2, R2D2, R3B1, R3C1, R3D1, R4A3, R4B1sec, R4C3, R4E1, R5C1, R5C3, R5D1, R5D2, R6B2, R6D1 cycle skip, R6D2 (rn), R6D2 100%, R6D3 100%, R7B2, R7C2, R7C3, R8B1, R8E1, R8B3, R8C2
I think thats the current total list?
sturdy glen
Holy fuck
sturdy glen
You know what's funny
tardy ingot
ngl R6D2 maybe saving 2 min will help towards the last hour mark
sturdy glen
I look at this list and my brain picks out r7b2 specifically and goes ew
tardy ingot
I feel you
frail heart
I look at this list and my brain picks out r7b2 specifically and goes ew
btw the clip i sent is with a VERY good mom spawn but we die
frail heart
im glad i dont remember the level
tardy ingot
you know the worse thing is HOW MANY of those levels with highish priority are uplink missions
tardy ingot
Fully put us off running the category
understandable
sturdy glen
LOL
frail heart
but guess what
sturdy glen
R5d1 main will be cool once it's done
tiny wyvern
How would r7c3 100% look like
frail heart
aussie host for uplink levels 😈
tardy ingot
How would r7c3 100% look like
already done
sturdy glen
Running it will suck tho
tardy ingot
R5d1 main will be cool once it's done
its one of the big 4 left
frail heart
the big 4 goes hard
tardy ingot
Running it will suck tho
💀 yep
tardy ingot
How would r7c3 100% look like
you rush main, get bulkhead key once the timer starts and go back to secondary shooting it up
then finish overload and book it for extract
sturdy glen
I want to try r8c2 but we have other stuff in line first
tardy ingot
same
frail heart
r8c2 sounds so fucky ngl
sturdy glen
Yea...
frail heart
we usually run like twice a week
tardy ingot
and usually not 5 hours
tardy ingot
I want to try r8c2 but we have other stuff in line first
whats your next lvl?
sturdy glen
R4e1 sentry strat or gauntlet if we have time to even try a run
frail heart
R4e1 sentry strat or gauntlet if we have time to even try a run
what is sentry strat btw
frail heart
what do you do about tank?
sturdy glen
Doesn't spawn
frail heart
how
sturdy glen
Don't need foam
frail heart
just closing doors?
tardy ingot
if you get to last surge fast enough it blocks the spawns right
frail heart
it would make sense
sturdy glen
We do wave manipulation still
frail heart
you just gotta pull surge
sturdy glen
And yea doors are enough
frail heart
ohhhhh and 3 sentries for surge is cracked
sturdy glen
Plugging cells sucks
sturdy glen
Second alarm also ass without pen
frail heart
ah
sturdy glen
Insane loadout
sturdy glen
I wanted sniper over bc but
tardy ingot
I miss better sniper
tardy ingot
oh
btw
R6 is like 1 min away
from a sub 3 hours
(any%)
cycle skip being done right to push it over would be sick (ngl we need cycle skip for record anyways)
tardy ingot
probably just tgb no
frail heart
its either tgb or eva tho
tardy ingot
weve had absolutely horrible scans that make it... not likely tho
but the more common ones are all very similar
key rng is also minimal for time (mostly fucked for having to clear more stuff)
frail heart
bros host and still cant type a command quick enough 😔
sturdy glen
Could be a future comp rn tbh
tardy ingot
yea
tardy ingot
we will see
frail heart
surely sub 10
tardy ingot
its noticeably harder than R3D1
sturdy glen
Prolly 10:30
sturdy glen
I think 4 hours should be a rough time for getting gold medal
frail heart
sub 10 is just full sending the ENTIRE thing
like no ammo is just a rip
you take the L
halcyon current
weve had absolutely horrible scans that make it... not likely tho
Is there a way to manipulate scan rng or is it just totally random
frail heart
Is there a way to manipulate scan rng or is it just totally random
random
halcyon current
I've seen scans appear literally a foot from eachother and I've seen them go across room for every scan
tardy ingot
good for you. R6D2 has low scan rng
frail heart
I've seen scans appear literally a foot from eachother and I've seen them go acr...
yeah its just based on the seed
tardy ingot
biggest is stealth scan
next biggest is a cluster alarm thats usually not too bad
halcyon current
yeah its just based on the seed
Neat, til
Seeds make sense but I've never really thought about it tbh
frail heart
im there for 1/3 of it
tardy ingot
1 person gets the term and loots and scans
frail heart
cause im getting term
tardy ingot
the other 2 scan and loot
halcyon current
What're yalls favorite rundowns overall?
tardy ingot
the last double red is done by all
halcyon current
Vanilla game ofc
tardy ingot
What're yalls favorite rundowns overall?
R6 or R8
prime musk
isn't there timesave is 2 people just leaving and sending mom zone
frail heart
What're yalls favorite rundowns overall?
r8 prob
frail heart
isn't there timesave is 2 people just leaving and sending mom zone
there are team scans
halcyon current
I assume R8 has a bunch of shit actually going on then
prime musk
right the fucking teamscans
frail heart
checkpoint + bulkhead + mom zone + main door
tardy ingot
checkpoint, bulkhead, dark mom door, main extract door
frail heart
I assume R8 has a bunch of shit actually going on then
best designed levels
digital mural
What're yalls favorite rundowns overall?
R6
frail heart
wish the whole game had that quality
digital mural
Not that hard but not easy either
sturdy glen
The hub zone teamscan experience
digital mural
Also really fun levels
halcyon current
best designed levels
Makes sense, most time to refine their craft by R8
frail heart
yep
halcyon current
So, look forward to R6 and R8
frail heart
then they ended it
halcyon current
Lmfao yeah
sturdy glen
R7 still peak
halcyon current
Tldr the back half of the back is overall better
tardy ingot
R7 is rly good for first time experience
but a lot of the levels have a meh gimmick thats annoying on replay
R7C1 cell walk
holy fuck
frail heart
Tldr the back half of the back is overall better
r6-8 are the best
tardy ingot
R7 is most likely my 3rd fav tho
grave obsidian
R8 is objectively really enjoyable
frail heart
and then the white boy hits too many blackhops and gets DQ'd
just run lawless 5head
halcyon current
R7 is rly good for first time experience
Tbh I've just felt like the rundowns I've played so far are kinda gimmicks?
If that makes sense
frail heart
in a way yeah
grave obsidian
R2 is ||Fog||
Dont forget the spitters
frail heart
r4 is kinda the error rundown
halcyon current
Dont forget the spitters
I guess ||infection|| might be the best way to put it
grave obsidian
yup
tardy ingot
R2 is ||Fog||
thats not what I mean with gimmicks
thats just new mechanics (optionals for R4, infection for R2) being a bit overused
frail heart
they introduced r2b4 as the first level
tardy ingot
R7 levels have a bunch of things that are just gimmicks for replay stuff
halcyon current
thats not what I mean with gimmicks
thats just new mechanics (optionals for R4,...
Tbf that's what I mean by gimmicks
New mechanic that is heavily featured or used
sturdy glen
Shipping r2b4 to markiplier was a terrible marketing decision
halcyon current
It's not bad persay
frail heart
Shipping r2b4 to markiplier was a terrible marketing decision
they didnt even complete it 😔
they did r6c3 main tho
halcyon current
Which level was R2B4?
sturdy glen
Turbine intro
halcyon current
Was that Mark's intro to GTFO?
tardy ingot
no
frail heart
na they did all of r1 except r1d1
halcyon current
Okay, I thought it was being implied they just sent him into R2B4 blind lmao
sturdy glen
Nah they just sent the worst r2 level to showcase their new rundown
tardy ingot
is it the worst 
tardy ingot
theres worse stuff in R2 and stuff that shows of R2 worse no?
frail heart
yeah ngl
i would not have enjoyed the time where you only had hack locks and open boxes
tardy ingot
I have noteable hate for R2C1
frail heart
hack locks SUCK
tardy ingot
R2C1 also shows off R2 badly
halcyon current
I have noteable hate for R2C1
R2C1 is burned into my memory cause pubs were not good at it
Tbf I probably wasn't great either at that point, but it's burned into my memory regardless
frail heart
ngl
tardy ingot
sturdy glen
Need to fix the marathon run mental
frail heart
huge
sturdy glen
I can definitely see the argument for r2c1
frail heart
the argument is bigger for r8b3
sturdy glen
At least b4 is short
tardy ingot
B4 biggest positive is it trolling pubs
frail heart
lmao
sturdy glen
Frosty
tardy ingot
12 codes uplink
sturdy glen
And me and Tru can't host
frail heart
play as an aussie
tardy ingot
or other reason
frail heart
and you will never complain again
frail heart
what ur d/u now?
sturdy glen
Like 8 and 0.2
Download is ok but my upload is why I can't host
I can just barely stream while playing
burnt inlet
goddamn
rapid warren
bro 💀 0.2 upload is wild
tardy ingot
hey at least you arent on mobile hotspot
sturdy glen
Cuz a lot of ppl are always using it
sturdy glen
hey at least you arent on mobile hotspot
True
frail heart
Like 8 and 0.2
HOLY
WHAT THE FUCK
thats worse than when i lived out in the bush
had to use my phone data to play at stable ping
sturdy glen
its why my stream quality like
fluctuates constantly
cuz my upload is NOT consistent
makes my host rly bad too
like no one dcs but everything desyncs constantly
tardy ingot
oh yea
@sturdy glen
we had at least 5 runs die to desync on the checkpoint cuz randomly tgb host craps itself
(like all 3 of us dont get through)
one of those runs was still sub 10 pace somehow
sturdy glen
Crazy
civic wave
i know we had fuck off amounts of desync on r1a1 checkpoint but past that i can't remember if there was any desync on my host
civic wave
mhm
i can sleep soundly at night with my 800+ down/800+ up and the sounds of my flatmates letting doors slam shut
civic wave
it's ok, i'll be moving over the summer and maybe lose the insane internet (but it's still modern city centre living so how bad could it be)
when i'm done with uni i may be screwed lmao
frail heart
i dont think australia could comprehend internet that good
best ive ever seen is 350 down
turbid horizon
copper wire go brrrrmmm
turbid horizon
guys its cheaper!!!!!!
wasn’t it not cheaper in the end?
frail heart
wasn’t it not cheaper in the end?
Idk ngl but at the time it was
sturdy glen
My up is so bad man FUCK
faint musk
any idea why i cant host R4E1 when i've completed R4D1 and R4D2? do i need to clear ALL missions in R4 before E1?
digital mural
any idea why i cant host R4E1 when i've completed R4D1 and R4D2? do i need to cl...
Yes
All the missions
sturdy glen
You're not
fathom ice
another day of epic embed fail
fathom ice
You're not
did u sleep btw
sturdy glen
I took a 4 hour nap
ocean spindle
pain
civic wave
I took a 4 hour nap
how dysfunctional are you after only 4 hours sleep?
i'd have slower/duller cognitive function on a good day with that
civic wave
i think i was similar, 5.5-8 was more or less equivalent
but now i am on medicine that makes me sleepy and exhausted
burnt inlet
If it ain’t 10 hours then it’s not quality 🗣️🔥
carmine grotto
had a scout go off 2 rooms away on a broken door. no one by it and no sounds made. thoughts on how this occurred?
replay shows that it touched a broken door and then went off
soft crater
had a scout go off 2 rooms away on a broken door. no one by it and no sounds mad...
scout bombed
slender zenith
^help plz
digital mural
had a scout go off 2 rooms away on a broken door. no one by it and no sounds mad...
Scout bomb
@slender zenith @carmine grotto
slender zenith
sadge thanks
past mesa
had a scout go off 2 rooms away on a broken door. no one by it and no sounds mad...
UNFO
carmine grotto
was a sad ending to an already unlucky attempt
past mesa
r7e1?
digital mural
was a sad ending to an already unlucky attempt
You could say it was a "clusterfuck"
carmine grotto
He said the thing!
past mesa
He said the thing!
yeah but scout bombing is unfo
it is pretty east to stop all things considered
if you want to close the door
past mesa
yeah but you had to close it at some point
for the bug to happen
that is how you save the position for the scout to aggro
carmine grotto
would have been better to leave it open then?
past mesa
if there is no scout in second room
you dont need to close
if there is a scout in second room you just have to be aware of the ghost positions
while we were doing r7e1 pub runs the 4th code runner would open close the door
after everyone was in the other room
carmine grotto
sad times lol
past mesa
or you could kill the scouts
in A
respawned enemies dont save the position
only enemies kept alive which is why this bug happens in r7e1
SO often
wraith kindle
What is a strong and complementary main weapon to pair with the High Caliber Pistol?
frail heart
sawed off
hardy grotto
hel revolver
prime musk
dmr
wraith kindle
sawed off
That's one I have not tried yet, thank you!
(Sadly I am addicted to the HCP, so all my main choices revolve around that)
ocean spindle
rlly high cals so flexible it doesn't matter what u pair it with
it just works with everything
sick mauve
burst pistol final answer, locked in
ocean spindle
much as a joke as it is it still works for it
crystal pilot
anyone have any good updated recent weapons tier lists?
tardy ingot
anyone have any good updated recent weapons tier lists?
anything from december 2023 or later works rly
tiny wyvern
burst pistol did get a minor tuneup
...keyword on minor
rich oyster
camera movement affect the infected senses?
tiny wyvern
camera movement affect the infected senses?
you mean the sleepers?
I don't think so
Your WASD movement, melees, crouching and uncrouching (as well as bullets)
All make noise
tiny wyvern
Here, the section on actions tell you all the things that alert sleepers
[[Enemies]]
gray rapidsBOT
digital mural
camera movement affect the infected senses?
No
Sleepers detect you from sound
Moving the camera doesnt make sound
crystal blaze
Farting makes a sound
tardy ingot
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Enemies
unironically, for that id just recommend the stealth guide instead
tiny wyvern
Yeah but i don't remember the name or the link these days
So I just link the wiki
You're right tho
tardy ingot
yes
young olive
idk bout u but on my game its a loud assanimation so i assumed it would wake them
tardy ingot
lock melters are also loud but silent
young olive
fair point
tiny wyvern
Na
Btw throwing objects like glow stick don't alert anything as well
tardy ingot
Yeah but i don't remember the name or the link these days
its in the guides n reviews section
tho it could potentially be linked in the wiki (considering other guides are)
young olive
ur compared plastic glowsticks weighting few grams to two metallic pieces rubbing and clicking one on another
if u tried reloading gun irl u know that sht can wake ur neighbor
tiny wyvern
ur compared plastic glowsticks weighting few grams to two metallic pieces rubbin...
To be fair fog repellers are also metal cpu fans
And throwing them doesn't wake anything up
young olive
yeah i figured i was wrong all along
digital mural
Me walking with a turbine in front of a sleeper
tardy ingot
ur compared plastic glowsticks weighting few grams to two metallic pieces rubbin...
glowsticks being thrown across a room onto usually metallic or rock floor
make lots of noise
young olive
glowsticks being thrown across a room onto usually metallic or rock floor
bro they dont weight anything:D
at least the ones i used irl