gtfo-related-questions

[crystal blaze]

THERE’S ANOTHER CODE SEARCHER?

Oh yeah, the rotator

[civic wave]

but nah idk, it helps for cells section ig but it's not hard to get through with only one sentry and being selective

[civic wave]

just wait until you discover what those pesky speedrunners are up to

[prime musk]

but like it's never necessary

the 2nd bio is actually providing value

[crystal blaze]

Yeah, I know about the solo defenders

I hate those speedrunners, making my squad believe we can actually be good at this game

DAMN YOU, EVA!

[civic wave]

good at this game
EVA

somebody's going to be very upset about this

[crystal blaze]

Well no

Just that Eva’s content is pretty much the only speedrunning content I consume for GTFO

[hardy grotto]

shops at Walmart exclusively

Hasn’t gotten a taste of anything else

[crystal blaze]

Sam’s club*

[hardy grotto]

Don’t talk about sam

he’s a freak

[crystal blaze]

Oh shit

I’m summoning the scatter hater

[civic wave]

dude walks into a hardware store and has a breakdown over the fact they stock ladders

[hardy grotto]

sam when he sees a door (his flow has been ruined)

[crystal blaze]

I’m gonna pour concrete on the ladders to maximize the suffering

[frail heart]

Sam seeing a reddit post with a clear

[crystal blaze]

(They used sawed-off and scatter)

[hardy grotto]

gotta balance it out by posting 5 cat gifs to make up for that transgression

[civic wave]

open plan living is fuckin cool

[tardy ingot]

excuse me its Aldi

goes fast, has mostly everything and is somehow actually everywhere (even freakin america)

[crystal blaze]

I love when Aldi made Walmart fail in Germany

[hardy grotto]

Eva how do you pronounce lidl

[tardy ingot]

well how its supposed to be pronounced

[hardy grotto]

and how is that

[civic wave]

and that would be?

[tardy ingot]

lidl

[frail heart]

if you say aul-di then ur wrong

[tardy ingot]

[hardy grotto]

alright funny guy

[crystal blaze]

Aul-deez nuts!

[hardy grotto]

do you pronounce it like leedle or little

[prime musk]

li
dl

[hardy grotto]

this is important

[prime musk]

like little

[civic wave]

liddill

[prime musk]

there is no second i

it's just li dl

[hardy grotto]

Im a leedle enjoyer

Brainwashed by one of my teachers in my last few years of school

[civic wave]

wtf

but the adverts say

[frail heart]

never heard of lidl ngl

[hardy grotto]

And it’s never leaving me

[prime musk]

common frosty L

[frail heart]

sorry im not a dirty european

[hardy grotto]

Im waiting for eva to deliver salvation

tell me I’m right

[prime musk]

no you were to criminal and got deported to aus

[hardy grotto]

Owned

Epic style

[frail heart]

average british history

[tardy ingot]

its li dl

leedle is ???

[hardy grotto]

that’s insane

[tardy ingot]

you gotta hear me say it tbf

[civic wave]

"that's why we're big on quality, and leedle on price"

[hardy grotto]

I probably do need to hear you say it

Idk I still think I’m inevitably gonna pronounce it like leedle

It’s a brainworm at this point

[burnt inlet]

WHAT IS THIS LEVEL 😭

[prime musk]

r2c2 is the first error alarm level

[tiny wyvern]

you're doing r2c2 right

Is he solo or with group?

[burnt inlet]

I DONT KNOW HOW TO TERMINAL

solo

[tiny wyvern]

Oh good faqing luck

If you think this is bad wait till you see the ds

[civic wave]

this is where the warden mapper comes in

[tiny wyvern]

Actually I'm curious how the hell do you even solo r2d2

If you faq up any of the rooms you're basically dead

[prime musk]

r2d2?

[civic wave]

shoot waves with hel rifle/bc, apart from wave 10 because that is impossible

[prime musk]

or r2c2?

[tiny wyvern]

yeah

[civic wave]

standard reactor stuff

[tiny wyvern]

r2d2

[civic wave]

shoot good play good

[prime musk]

it's not that bad if you kite wave 9 and 10

you can kill wave 9 and 10 but need kiting to get the codes in before resuming shooting

[tiny wyvern]

that sounds awful

[prime musk]

nah it's pretty fine

solo by far the biggest chokepoints are code 5 and code 6

those 2 are both more difficult that anything else

[wild flare]

dont do r2d2 with bots if you are newish

[tiny wyvern]

is it worse than solo

like true solo

[prime musk]

no

[wild flare]

idk honestly, if you can manage to giant cap and kite maybe it is easier

[prime musk]

i mean

giant cap really only helps for wave 9 and 10

[burnt inlet]

this game is

[prime musk]

correct

this game is

[burnt inlet]

i think in total we got like 10 downs

and then the bots all decided to run into a giant

and i was cornered

in fog

with a turbine

and enemies rushing me

giants

[tiny wyvern]

r2c2 things

[burnt inlet]

im turning into war veteran car

heart attacking too

stamina things

uhm

im skipping this level

for now

[tardy ingot]

The next 3 dont get any better

[burnt inlet]

uhm

im skipping this rundown (its gonna get worse)

[prime musk]

nah r3 is one of the easiest rundowns

a lot easier than r2

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[prime musk]

r3c1 and r3d1 are perhaps more difficult than r2c2, but everything else won't be a step up in difficulty from what you have done

[errant dome]

r3c1 is wack 2 scale cause its 2 very diffrent experiences based on rng xd

[wild flare]

r3c1 unlikely

r3d1 is boosted r2c2 yeah

[weary heath]

hi guys ive been playing gtfo for a while and ive never become a good player, im playing alone with modded bots to help me out, can u guys give me advice on how to deal with tanks alone? the sniper sentries dont target tumors specifically, and since my bot mates always group on me, the tank's armor is just perma facing us. Any suggestion?

[fathom ice]

tank spin !!

but srsly if u have infinite time to kill him just shoot on screams

if not well erm

tank spin !!

[weary heath]

how do u spin a tank when he has aimbot that 100% hits you if ure not behind 3 walls

[fathom ice]

@humble night

can we have a tank spin guide

[grizzled patrol]

dont sniper sentries target excluivly tumors?

[fathom ice]

u can use elevation

[weary heath]

for me it wasnt shooting the tumors at all

[fathom ice]

so like if ure above the tank

u can see its tumors clearly

[weary heath]

maybe it has something to do with the mod that makes sentry accurate

making it less accurate

[grizzled patrol]

choke shotgun sentry? 🥵

[weary heath]

❔

[fathom ice]

art 4 malefic technique - confusion

[frail heart]

Ngl you shouldn't be scared of getting licked once from a tank to kill it

[fathom ice]

yes !!

[grizzled patrol]

while you are at it, give it a big hug

[weary heath]

u guys talking about this so casually feels so bad when one D or E mission for me is an entire week task to figure out

[prime musk]

go long for a door and play the door ig

[fathom ice]

oh right

u can play doors

[burnt inlet]

do wallsacks wake sleepers?

[fathom ice]

they advance their alert phase

[weary heath]

they woke a scout for me multiple times

[grizzled patrol]

if you moan after getting spit on

[fathom ice]

okay buddy

[grizzled patrol]

[burnt inlet]

tyty

[burnt inlet]

ofc ur name is freaky

[weary heath]

i mean the entire game is sus

licking monsters and tentacle men

[digital mural]

I love getting licked

[fathom ice]

good time to close this chat

[burnt inlet]

💀

idk about u lot but i do NOT like being infected

[frail heart]

infection is just a mind game

[weary heath]

maybe joining the official gtfo server to ask question was a bigger mistake than dying for hours

[frail heart]

it doesnt actually make the game harder

because you're at 20 all the time anyway

[burnt inlet]

yep

[tiny wyvern]

Nah it helps

Most of them are just memeing

[grizzled widget]

infection resist boosters might be your best friend.

[burnt inlet]

youd be disappointed at how i play then

[grizzled widget]

you can get to 100% with two and be fully immune

[burnt inlet]

i am resisting the boosters 🗣️ 🔥

[grizzled patrol]

you dont like being covered in thicc green liquid?

[frail heart]

dont use boosters to remove a game mechanic lol

[weary heath]

i love infection resist, infection is biggest cringe in the game

no vision, no hp

[digital mural]

Wow

Thats cringe

[weary heath]

cant see monitors

[frail heart]

just see

5head

[digital mural]

Open your eyes??????

[weary heath]

u cant see letter when infected

every 5 seconds u are able to see

cringe

[frail heart]

just use your eyes

or dont get infected

[weary heath]

no

yes

[digital mural]

This guy is going to suffer in R5E1

[grizzled widget]

is the code z05? x05? i guess we will find out!

[burnt inlet]

wait so uhhh

[grizzled patrol]

i love trying to read whether it is a 0 or a 8 that i need for the uplink with the wobblies screen ever

[burnt inlet]

you guys said that scouts can be woken up by wall sacks

[tardy ingot]

The what?

[burnt inlet]

uhm

[frail heart]

i cant tell between 0 and 8 anyways

[grizzled widget]

SAAAAAAME

[burnt inlet]

is it like the first one i trigger will wake up the scout?

[grizzled widget]

the uplink text on the hud is too small

font doesn't help

[digital mural]

Blind fucks

[weary heath]

Im not even going to do E1 because i cant get there

R5D1 tank invasion blocks my success

[grizzled widget]

just cheese

[digital mural]

DO NOT

[frail heart]

🐟

[tardy ingot]

R5D1 „tank invasion“

R5D1 barely has tanks you fight tho?

[frail heart]

1 mandatory

[tardy ingot]

like theres what, 1 mandatory fight?

[grizzled patrol]

if you keep dying to the tank, then die to the BBCs instead

[frail heart]

thats it

[grizzled widget]

*you can only bash your face against a wall so many times.
it is an option.

fun ALWAYS comes first imo.

[weary heath]

that 1 mandatory is bad enough alone

[frail heart]

cheese is not fun ngl

might as well just not play the game

[digital mural]

Use wemod

Duh

[frail heart]

just get skill prog

[weary heath]

how do u cheese a tank

[frail heart]

you wont beat the level any other way

practice

[grizzled patrol]

ask it nicely, or wait till he trips and falls down the stairs

[grizzled widget]

failing a level a dozen times after multi-hour attempts is not fun

[frail heart]

a good way to kill tanks it use doors

[frail heart]

that is literally just you being bad

[grizzled widget]

you can't just say "get good"

you don't know individual people's circumstances.

[weary heath]

+1

[grizzled widget]

and that is literally just you being toxic.

[burnt inlet]

so far r2d1 has been easier than r2c2

[weary heath]

some people just want to play the game their way

[grizzled widget]

fun ALWAYS comes first

not frustration

[frail heart]

so its either cheese or actually just get better?

[ocean spindle]

no lol

[grizzled patrol]

just say "get bad" so that the stack overflow into being good

[digital mural]

Cheese deez

[weary heath]

And the game is insanely hard, we're not talking about Game Journalist difficulty

[grizzled widget]

no. we are talking about someone being stuck

[weary heath]

being unable to progress is cringe

[grizzled widget]

there is a difference compared to someone cheesing on their first try

[frail heart]

Yeah, and instead of offering actual advice and strategies, i dont think saying "cheese" is the best thing

[grizzled widget]

some people can only improve so much

this game is hard

very hard.

you shouldn't exclude people because they can't meet the highest of standards

[frail heart]

learn and practice and it becomes easier :D

[weary heath]

Ive had my fair shair of "get gud" during my Dark Souls era, I do not want to sweat in gtfo too, especially because its an fps game, and Im not good at fps at all, not planning to be

[tardy ingot]

Yea but they are stuck cuz they arent good enough rn

[weary heath]

I jsut want to do every map atleast once

[digital mural]

You don't have to sweat in GTFO tho

[tardy ingot]

.

[frail heart]

telling them to cheese is not the way to go

[grizzled widget]

i know i suck at the game. I cheese occasionally. I don't care too much about the gameplay, mostly a fan of the story and environment.

[tardy ingot]

Why not play with people then?

[weary heath]

I'm a fan of the game and story but it can so quickly turn disgustingly unfair

[grizzled patrol]

then kidnap your friends and play as a 4stack, tanks are much easier to deal with if you are not alone

[frail heart]

I would recommend playing with people

[tardy ingot]

The game is so rarely unfair

[weary heath]

Dont have any friends willing to play , they call this game "self inflicted suffer"

[grizzled widget]

i feel like you are just completely ignoring what i am saying and are repeating yourself at this point

[digital mural]

I don't think its unfair, it has never felt that way

[frail heart]

It is considerably more difficult to beat the game with bots

[digital mural]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[prime musk]

idk man i enjoyed my r5c2 solo grind and those were all "die after 2 hours if you make tiny slipup"
if you can't enjoy the process of grinding a difficult clear then the game just might not be for you'

[ocean spindle]

if ur resources start to dim out and u dont want to lfg, or u simply wanna go alone and already limited ur pool of options, at the end its ur game, and technically ur singleplayer game

[digital mural]

Isnt the best part of GTFO the difficulty and challenge?
Removing that would remove all what GTFO has to offer

[ocean spindle]

the issue here being idk what cheese to apply to the tank lmao

[ocean spindle]

thats extremely subjective

[weary heath]

I dont want to remove the difficulty i want to remove the part where its uncompleteable alone

[ocean spindle]

"isnt the best part of gtfo the graphics/story/enemies/guns/difficulty?"

[grizzled widget]

I beg to differ. all gtfo offers to me is the universe. the gameplay really isn't great for my tastes.

[tardy ingot]

Well theres cheese
And exploits

Using doors to manipulate their ai for an easier kill is kinda cheesy

[digital mural]

Join an LFG

Or make your own team

[grizzled widget]

gtfo could be a book and i would love it the same, despite zero actual game

[prime musk]

(it isn't, it's just way more difficult)

[ocean spindle]

how using a door? like kitin or something?

[tiny wyvern]

It isn't uncompleteable alone
Not anymore
Someone routed possible ways of doing it

[prime musk]

you can't balance a game around 4p teams being hard and 1p team being not harder than that

[weary heath]

Killing a tank is harder than killing Malenia

a tank cannot be parried or dodged

[tardy ingot]

Close door
Tank walks up
Open door -> shoot
Close door -> reload

Repeat

[ocean spindle]

but it requires extreme skill and way extreme knoweldge

[digital mural]

It can be dodged

[weary heath]

how?

[tiny wyvern]

dodge mechanic and baiting melee

[tardy ingot]

It can be dodged (cover)
It can be staggered
It also dies super fast compared to malenia

[frail heart]

This is where asking questions is good. Learning how they work and good ways to counter them are the only ways you will get better

[grizzled widget]

its hard to explain. there are some good trainers on modded.

[weary heath]

How do u dodge in an open space

[tiny wyvern]

sideways

Go sideways

[ocean spindle]

tank is a hitscan unless blocking Line of Sight

[ocean spindle]

misinfo alert

:D

[prime musk]

gotta stagger it

[ocean spindle]

im pretty sure its a hitscan

[grizzled patrol]

ngl i wish the actual dodge were as good as it was at the beginning

[weary heath]

No matter what i do, it legit always hits

and it hits thrice

[tiny wyvern]

Are all tongues globally hitscan

[frail heart]

use cover

[digital mural]

Me when a super soldier runs out of stamina after making 3 sidesteps

[tardy ingot]

It does not

[ocean spindle]

no? they use a hitbox

[frail heart]

if you cant see it then it cant hit you

[weary heath]

it always hits thrice

[tiny wyvern]

I think I've stayed up for too long again

[digital mural]

It doesnt

[grizzled patrol]

shoot him. stagger him out of the attack

[grizzled widget]

its like a sugar crash except with a dozen drug cocktails

[digital mural]

Real

[grizzled widget]

lol

[frail heart]

learn

[tiny wyvern]

[[Tank]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Tank

[digital mural]

Alright guys now the real question

[weary heath]

and what is even the logic in tank AI

whats makes it charge

[digital mural]

Whats the best way to deal with a tank

[weary heath]

what makes it hide from my shots

[tiny wyvern]

Your distance away from it

If you mean the speed up zooming

[ocean spindle]

like melee attack? being too close
hide? just being pincered usually, it hides its back

[tiny wyvern]

If you mean the melee how close you are to it

[grizzled patrol]

not playing GTFO

[weary heath]

Its inconsistent af

but it always finds the best course of action

[tiny wyvern]

Which part the melee?

[frail heart]

It isnt

[grizzled widget]

getting above it.

[weary heath]

it chargess when no cover

it hides

when everyone is prepared

[digital mural]

You can wait for the tank to roar and then rush his back

[grizzled widget]

unironically, the high ground is great at fighting tanks

[frail heart]

^

[weary heath]

okay so

where do i find high ground

[tiny wyvern]

...Actually which Tank are you having trouble with

[weary heath]

in R5D1

[grizzled widget]

you can fight 2+ at once solo with a good tile like reactor

[ocean spindle]

in the donut room considering ur in r5d1, u could get the tank to be on the little hallway thats below ground floor and then shoot from above

or using the ladder thing

[tardy ingot]

litteraly in the rooms before you encounter it

[grizzled widget]

thats what PTC2 was designed around in my mod

[digital mural]

Omg Thermonuclear mentioned

[tardy ingot]

also why not just look to find people on here for example @weary heath ?

[ocean spindle]

theres also that apex door room yeah

[frail heart]

the tile before the warden door has a HUGE amount

[grizzled widget]

fighting tanks is very simple if you know how to take advantage of their weak spots.

[tiny wyvern]

Would you want one of us to show you how to solo one?

So you can learn?

[weary heath]

i dont wanna play with randoms because i will feel inferior to literally anyone else that plays this game i just want to complete it idk like with my own group of friends that occasionally join and myself

the moment I break i will look for people

[frail heart]

there are so many people at your level

[tardy ingot]

also question

[digital mural]

Not wanting to play with other people in a coop game doesnt mix together

[ocean spindle]

that caused me to not join lfgs for so much time i get u

[tardy ingot]

you are on R5D1, but I presume you skipped R4E1 (as otherwise you likely wouldnt have trouble with tanks)

[ocean spindle]

i understand

[grizzled widget]

eh. the game is over, that pool dries up by the day.

[weary heath]

but since once again im super bad at gtfo and fps in general, im having hard time

[tardy ingot]

it... litteraly isnt

we checked that just yesterday

[grizzled widget]

same. I mostly play RPGs and MMOs.

[digital mural]

900 players on average for the past year

????????

[grizzled widget]

who is we?

[weary heath]

i skipped it because i couldnt do anything with infinite tanks

[grizzled widget]

i wasn't a part of that convo

[tardy ingot]

playing a hard game designed for 4 people solo
playing a game thats majorly about your knowledge about the game, without most of that knowledge

no surprise you are having a hard time

[frail heart]

r4e1 with bots has never been done so fair

[ocean spindle]

to play lfgs- it is a thing of "getting over the fear" sort of, but u sorta have to mentalize urself that ur playing for fun, not for a clear, and it becomes a bit easier to join random people

and usually its nice

[weary heath]

In the previous parts where i had tanks i got super lucky Like in the C2 secondary, my sentry somehow mostly killed tanks

• i had sniper on high ground

[digital mural]

Sentry carry 🙏

[tardy ingot]

the people on discord
there was a discussion about it yesterday

playercount is as strong as ever basically, mostly because we are getting a ton of new people coming in

[grizzled widget]

from what? its not on sale, is it?

[digital mural]

Game doesnt have 100k players = dead

[ocean spindle]

no but just the constant flow

some sponsors

[burnt inlet]

@tiny wyvern #gtfo-media message i do not have cfom

[ocean spindle]

some big youtubers sometimes

[tardy ingot]

the game simply isnt drying up in player count as people think it is

[grizzled widget]

tell that to singleplayer RPGs. player count numbers mean little.

[burnt inlet]

slendo i do not have doors #gtfo-media message

[tardy ingot]

its a mix of prior sales, spiffs videos and the like

[tiny wyvern]

There can be cfoam grenades that's why I mentioned it

[weary heath]

I am by no means a new player Ive been playing gtfo occasinaly for 3 or more years and now I came back to it to complete every map but Im bad and cant really get better. the stealth part I enjoy, but loud invasions with 99 tanks is just a joke

[ocean spindle]

THREE SENTRIES WHY

[burnt inlet]

havent found any

[frail heart]

this is where i recommend playing with others

[burnt inlet]

sentry cope

[grizzled widget]

if you wanna see dead, look up Guns of Icarus Alliance. that was the MMO i played just prior to getting into GTFO

[tardy ingot]

you arent forced to do that alarm
you can just skip it

[tiny wyvern]

Yes, I don't know if you'll look for more shit before you start, I can't tell from a screenshot

[frail heart]

you're just gonna drop the game at some point

[grizzled widget]

global playercount is like 2

[ocean spindle]

well 2 below one save it to move it with the scans and again, pray

[grizzled patrol]

imho there is a difference between a dead game and a dead Discord server. people have interest, but not everybody want to join and play in the discord server

[digital mural]

More bullets = more kills

[tardy ingot]

you can definetly easily get better

[ocean spindle]

its like 900

[wild flare]

r5d1 mandatory tank you say?

[burnt inlet]

yes buuuut kinda want the infection clear room thingy, but is it not worth?

[weary heath]

this is my mentality too

[tardy ingot]

its 900 unique players each day
oh you meant a diff game

[burnt inlet]

nah was gonna now

[ocean spindle]

should be enough disinfect on the map for 4 players with 100%

[digital mural]

900-1000 on average
It could easily be more

[ocean spindle]

i mean, it isnt cuz we see the numbers

like on the steam thing

[tiny wyvern]

Then just sentry top door and two bottom doors and 50% die

[grizzled widget]

now I KNOW you didn't read what i said

[tiny wyvern]

That alarm is shite

[ocean spindle]

oops maybe not

[grizzled widget]

guns of icarus has been dead since 2016

[ocean spindle]

sorryyy

my bad

[tardy ingot]

theres lots of disinfect on the map in packs and you have tons of fog repellers

[burnt inlet]

ok ty slendo and golden, this is gonna be a last resort if i cant find any more disinfect

[grizzled patrol]

like 80-90 % of them are MM users still stuck on R1 tho

[tardy ingot]

not rly the case ngl

[burnt inlet]

yea trying to find fog repellers tho, kinda used the ones i found liberally

[digital mural]

Time to troll

[tardy ingot]

no

[frail heart]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

80% ragebait

[grizzled widget]

why do people still use igmm? its astonishing

[digital mural]

Whats the other 20%

[tiny wyvern]

@weary heath is there anything we can actually help you with in terms of practical advice?
Just asking, because we can't exactly teach you how to deal with tanks or other enemies without something you're confused about.

[frail heart]

idk

[tardy ingot]

cuz they dont know better or want to suffer

[grizzled widget]

the place is filled with hackers banned from the discord and general trolls

[weary heath]

idk guys sounds like I either get better, get new stranger teammates or quit , kind of a dilemma

[grizzled widget]

fair

[frail heart]

huge opinion

[grizzled patrol]

fair enough, a lot of them are pbly playing modded

[frail heart]

so you dont want to get better?

[tiny wyvern]

You are playing solo in a team game, it will always be a shitshow

[weary heath]

I jsut wanted practical advice on how to solo tanks

[wild flare]

so if you are struggling with r5d1 mandatory tank with bots, there are ladder on right side before going into corridor and sec door, which spawn tank, you place 2 sniper turrets ( if you use them ) facing this ladder, go to sec door, open it, immediately climb on this ladder ( or staircase idk how to spell it ), resulting you having high ground vs tank, so you can shoot tumors from above and turrets hitting tumors from behind

[tiny wyvern]

^

[tardy ingot]

where is the dilemma

[digital mural]

Darksaid has came

[tiny wyvern]

There he is

[weary heath]

ill try this thanks

[prime musk]

yeah, high ground so you can see tumors even when it is facing you, or bait melee attacks (hard) or play doors

[weary heath]

but i kinda need a powerful targeted weapon no?

[wild flare]

sawed off + hel rifle

[digital mural]

Hel rifle
Scattergun

[weary heath]

but if i play snipers on secondary how am i gonna deal with tanks

[wild flare]

on bots use hel revo + bc

[digital mural]

Burst cannon

[weary heath]

*QUEENS

[grizzled widget]

no because each blister has its own individual health

[grizzled patrol]

machinegun trust

[tiny wyvern]

sawed off

[digital mural]

Use burst cannon

[wild flare]

bc on bots actually carries vs tank

[grizzled widget]

something like burst or scattergun

[digital mural]

You can kill everything with it

[grizzled widget]

not sniper

[prime musk]

burst cannon is very good into both tank and mom

[weary heath]

I scattergun for armored tentacle , queen and mother, i Have no problem

tanks have no weakness

[digital mural]

They do

[prime musk]

doors

[tiny wyvern]

Back, doors, elevation

[grizzled widget]

high ground

[tiny wyvern]

Or R7E1 strats

[tardy ingot]

???

[grizzled widget]

pablo mentioned

[tiny wyvern]

God I love the R7E1 strats

[weary heath]

what is the stronger high prio dmg weapon on primary weapon

[wild flare]

sawed off

[digital mural]

Sawed off

[grizzled patrol]

slug

[weary heath]

that doesnt work long range

[digital mural]

Use burst cannon

[tardy ingot]

1. most combat is low-mid range

[wild flare]

also, dont forget to look at tank, so he will not actually climb to staircase

[tardy ingot]

2. there is no high dmg primary thats rly long range

[weary heath]

tank is never gonna be low mid range

it kills me with 1 punch

[tardy ingot]

you can walk

towards tank

[tardy ingot]

?????

NO

it does not LOL

[digital mural]

What

[tardy ingot]

it doesnt even kill in 2

[weary heath]

by the time i get to him i have 40 hp

it instakils

[tardy ingot]

it does not

dude

[grizzled widget]

tank deals 32%

[grizzled patrol]

take a step back, he will miss

[tardy ingot]

watch how people fight tanks

[tiny wyvern]

dark what's your take on this

[digital mural]

You are probably getting licked and punch at the same time

[tiny wyvern]

are you even still here

[wild flare]

which one?

scatter bad?

[tiny wyvern]

Low health solo tank

[wild flare]

find high ground

[tardy ingot]

if you are 100% you can tank 4 licks and a punch

realistically you get licked once, maybe twice

[wild flare]

or cover

[weary heath]

ure extremely rude

[wild flare]

if you are on same height lvl as tank it is dead end

without cover

[wild flare]

no rly, you can watch tank fight videos

if you are strugglin

[tardy ingot]

lol

[grizzled patrol]

welcome to GTFO

[frail heart]

You arent taking any advice at all and just saying the same thing over and over again

[digital mural]

Maleficcccccxcc

[frail heart]

Theres no way to help you if you dont want to listen

[weary heath]

I am listening

[tiny wyvern]

Just try darksaid's strat and see if it helps

[frail heart]

But you are repeating yourself

[wild flare]

you can use mods, donwload cconsole and practice

[frail heart]

^

[tiny wyvern]

I don't think anything else would help you at the moment

[tardy ingot]

So why are you counter stating things that are wrong

and then implying that me telling you to watch how people do it solo is rude

[wild flare]

i did this when i was stuck on r4c3

[weary heath]

not that everything u said before was just you purely disrespecting me for not being a god at the game

[tardy ingot]

ok actually re-read what I said
the fuck

[frail heart]

No?

[tiny wyvern]

Well... half the people here are actually good
And they're trying to teach you how to do tank soloing
And since you're new, things are going to be hard

Not new in terms of game experience

[weary heath]

thank u guys for advices but this is enough of this server i have no business here especially because im just never gonna be good even after a few hundred hours

[grizzled patrol]

tbh you forced yourself into this position, if you are playing alone even with just bots, you better be good

[tardy ingot]

ngl
they still seem new in terms of game experience

but the standard for that on the discord is also pretty high

[wild flare]

[digital mural]

What a bad mentality

[tiny wyvern]

He's gone

[digital mural]

But eh

Whatever floats your boat

[burnt inlet]

if i get 100% infection does it mean that i will be at 1% health?

[tardy ingot]

yep

[wild flare]

yes

[digital mural]

If it isnt already flooded

[burnt inlet]

oh ok so i wont die?

[tardy ingot]

compare TT22_moth reaction to advice vs theirs...

[burnt inlet]

even if i run into fog

[wild flare]

you can suicide, when someone revive you you will be at 20%

[frail heart]

This guy

Lmao

[tardy ingot]

yup
just super close to death

[grizzled patrol]

spitters my beloved

[burnt inlet]

icl ive just been taking in advice and playing

[digital mural]

Plays Coop game
Doesnt want to join people to play

[burnt inlet]

even wallsacks?

[tardy ingot]

icl?

[tiny wyvern]

wallsacks deal damage

[burnt inlet]

"i cant lie"

[tiny wyvern]

They will kill you

[wild flare]

any sneeze will kill you

[tardy ingot]

hm?
yea even spittes can kill you then

(spitters dont just infect, they also deal dmg)

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[wild flare]

also, how the f Flanna on r5d1 and dont know how to fight tank

[tardy ingot]

skipped levels

[frail heart]

🤷‍♂️

[tiny wyvern]

Just doing all As?

[tardy ingot]

they rly seemed like they didnt want to get better (them saying they cant get better ...)

[burnt inlet]

also idk if this was a good thing or not 💀

[grizzled patrol]

he said he had modded bots. pbly 100% accuracy betterbots

[tardy ingot]

it is!

[digital mural]

You actually want to learn
The other guy doesnt

[tiny wyvern]

actually does betterbots even shoot them in the back

[tardy ingot]

they just nuke em aswell usually ngl

[flat oar]

betterbots can even dodge tank lick

[tiny wyvern]

...I don't get it, how is he encountering problems if he's using good equipment with busted bots?

[digital mural]

Wait

Real?

[tardy ingot]

lets not 100% act like he necessarily is running that

[digital mural]

Skill issue (not a joke)

[flat oar]

i think

[tardy ingot]

I dont think it was confirmed

[digital mural]

You have to change the mod settings for it to be OP

[burnt inlet]

if i kick a bot and it rejoins will it have the same amount of hp and that stuff? (i cant tell them to pick up objective item)

[tardy ingot]

but their reaction to advice and blocking off advice aswell as counterstating wrong things back while saying they cant get better is..

[tiny wyvern]

If you're in combat they won't pick stuff up

[flat oar]

maybe misinfo but it can survive quite long

[tardy ingot]

iirc they reset but @wild flare knows best

[grizzled patrol]

true, he might have normal better bots. still beter than normal ones

[burnt inlet]

not in combat

[tiny wyvern]

well darksaid might be more knowledgeable about that then

[burnt inlet]

unfortunate

[tiny wyvern]

They were probably just really frustrated about tanks

And we probably wouldn't have done much to help in that regard

...Oh well

[tardy ingot]

well there was lots of advice for how to deal with them

but immediatly saying "cant get close it 1 shots me"

doesnt rly make that possible

[digital mural]

The best advice was lowkey just get high ground

[digital mural]

I mean
I said it before
He was probably licked and then punch

Or sometimes the tank licks very fast so it gives the impression of a lot of damage per hit

[tiny wyvern]

That or... well, he was using weird mods

That could be a case
No idea what type of modlist he has

[tardy ingot]

well yea
but as I said you can survive 4 licks and a punch

[wild flare]

if you kick and re-enable bot 1 time, he will lose all consumables and resources
if you kick and re-enable bot 2 times he will restore ammo and tool to lvl start amount

hp will not reset

[flat oar]

bruh it just tp to player make it survive longer than vanilla bots

[burnt inlet]

tyty

[prime musk]

in terms of getting clears, gtfo is one big knowledge check. getting that knowledge is hard and the game hides a lot of it, but that doesn\t change

that if you\re not taking in as much knowledge as you can, it will be a struggle

[digital mural]

Yeah but also

Not wanting to join an LFG

In a Coop game

[halcyon current]

The knowledge check gets a lot easier in lfg when you're gambling someone knows something instead of you know nothing

[digital mural]

God i love this nitro

[prime musk]

i wonder if you have enough health that you can 1v1 a tank without any cover

with melee baiting that is

[digital mural]

If you are fast enough yes

Still i wouldnt recommend it

[prime musk]

ok im going to try it for a bit

[fathom ice]

bruh what happened

i left to get food and there's +150

[grizzled widget]

a newbie got chased out of the server

[fathom ice]

BASED

[burnt inlet]

i can see why people wouldnt want to but atp they cant complain about how the game is setup (as a coop)

[grizzled patrol]

with scastter defo. with other guns you might need to bait a lot aof punches

[flat oar]

why so toxic smh

[grizzled widget]

typical gtfo elitism

[tiny wyvern]

Well he was frustrated about tanks

[grizzled widget]

"get good"

[burnt inlet]

RAAAAH GTFO PLAYERS ARE BEST

[tiny wyvern]

...I don't think I could've softened much up

Perhaps I could've

[fathom ice]

tbf they're playing with better bots

[frail heart]

LOL

[fathom ice]

their opinion doesn't count

[tiny wyvern]

...Don't think he'll enjoy beinng here even if I do

[prime musk]

oh yeah it\

[frail heart]

they literally did not want to listen

[prime musk]

s super doable

[fathom ice]

tanks is like that one moment u need to turn ur brain on

so

oh well

[burnt inlet]

icl i tried betterbots and i felt like they made the game worse to play

[grizzled patrol]

"wdym you cant kill the tank. just do the dicbreaker spin strat"

[fathom ice]

they have perfect accuracy

[digital mural]

They do everything for you

[grizzled widget]

even so, you don't have to be an asshole, you know that right?

[digital mural]

Quite literally everything

[frail heart]

was I?

[tardy ingot]

there was a ton of advice in the comments lol

[burnt inlet]

you can disable it (which i did)

[fathom ice]

i don't think they did tho

[burnt inlet]

they didnt pick up tool refills

[grizzled patrol]

its off by default

[digital mural]

Thats a blessing honestly

[tardy ingot]

no, not rly

[fathom ice]

oh well

[burnt inlet]

nah i like them to distribute stuff

[digital mural]

Top 3 things i dont trust my bots with:
1-Cells
2-meds
3-everything

[tardy ingot]

cfoam

[flat oar]

i tried betterbots with aimbot on once it can handle r8b4 error while im carrying datasphere 💀

[halcyon current]

Last time I gave a bot a neonate they managed to lose it through the floor and I decided to never let them carry anything again

[digital mural]

LOL

[tardy ingot]

R2E1 has been beaten with better bots

with the player no shooting once

[digital mural]

It's on YouTube btw

[halcyon current]

I imagine better bots just tweaks their AI to some unreasonable degree?

[grizzled patrol]

bots with butterfingers? based

[burnt inlet]

i wanted it to carry a cell cuz i was gonna run thru fog but turns out it didnt wanna carry shit that match

[digital mural]

Do betterbots bots carry stuff in combat?

🤔

[flat oar]

they drop and pick it up once they finish shooting

[digital mural]

Holy moly

[prime musk]

ok just did it

will throw recording in media in like 2 min

[burnt inlet]

from looking at zeds recording i can determine that cfoam is a must in the future 💀

[prime musk]

??

this is like the worst strategy

[burnt inlet]

i mean wouldnt it be best to cfoam and spray with scatter in their blobs?

[prime musk]

i mean yeah

[fathom ice]

only ctrips

or double nades

[prime musk]

if you can cfoam trip it and then scatter

[burnt inlet]

oh you cant get near it with cfoam to straight up shoot it?

[fathom ice]

so sum up
cfoam consumables
melee bait
scream
door

[prime musk]

you can, but it isn't enough cfoam

[flat oar]

ngl i never use door strat on tank only use on mom tho

[burnt inlet]

oh ok, well ill research it more when i see one

[fathom ice]

pub

[flat oar]

true

[prime musk]

ok wtf the stupid strat is like

not that hard

i just have to be very aggressive with scatter shots

[fathom ice]

0 cover plays stupid

if u cover for reloads its free

[prime musk]

yeah with cover it\s ez

without cover is kinda fun though

[burnt inlet]

are sentries in fog worse than sentries out of fog?

[prime musk]

nop

they don\t care about fog

[burnt inlet]

aighty tyty

[prime musk]

ok my conclusion is that scattergun is stupid

[burnt inlet]

does hel rifle 1 shot scouts?

[prime musk]

yes

normal scouts to head or back

shadow scouts head or back

charger scouts back

[burnt inlet]

aighty

for r2d1 which main weapon is good combo with hel rifle?

[prime musk]

sawd off

[tardy ingot]

what a surprise

meta is good

[burnt inlet]

[prime musk]

literally doesn\t matter what special you would have said the answer would have been sawed off

[fathom ice]

what if i'm soloing r1d1

[prime musk]

it\s still sawed off

[fathom ice]

ammo economy on hel revo is better trust

[burnt inlet]

they know i solo

i can see why its recommended to not solo

[prime musk]

eh

solo is kinda fun

[burnt inlet]

it is, but as a first timer prolly shouldnt

[civic wave]

we've had people do it before

Elbowguard will be missed 🕯️

[upper ginkgo]

zed is elbowguard's reincarnation ngl

[prime musk]

i can't tell if this is an insult or not

[upper ginkgo]

mfw my intent is always assumed to be rude

[prime musk]

red name must be elitist so checks out

[crystal blaze]

Zed shames me for being skill-deprived and using mines and a second sentry on R4E1 :(

[prime musk]

second sentry yes mines no

if im pubbing r4e1 im taking mines

[hybrid pine]

how do we kill the ||Charger Scout|| in R3 D1 without waking it up? we get so close and this is the only thing stopping us

[ocean spindle]

two main ways, foam it and beat it to death or big gun goes pew

[hybrid pine]

i used slug shotgun and that woke it up

[ocean spindle]

theres a lot of guns that can kill it, all 30 dmg guns can from the back [hel rifle high cal chokemod]

slug has 21 dmg

[hybrid pine]

ah

ok

[ocean spindle]

other big guns like scattergun burst cannnon can from the front

[prime musk]

a charger scout has 60 hp and its only weakness is that it takes 2x damage to its back

[tardy ingot]

slug shotgun is ...

[ocean spindle]

is 21 dmg :D

[tardy ingot]

its kinda just a gun for small enemies

[prime musk]

slug shotgun is fun but that's about it

[tardy ingot]

best ||flyer|| answer

[hybrid pine]

i only brought slug to kill the mother

[tardy ingot]

Yea…

[ocean spindle]

its 21 dmg

[prime musk]

im afraid you have made a poor choice

[tardy ingot]

Slug isnt good vs mom

[prime musk]

can't wait for the 4 slug shotties in r6cx speeds

[tardy ingot]

Honestly it would probably not be the worst pick ngl

that level sadly is very hard to full send

[ocean spindle]

sends these nuts in ur mouth gottem

[prime musk]

im guessing the problem is the zone with like 5 scouts + alpha one that's hard to full send?

is it resource constrains or

[tardy ingot]

a mix of multiple things

Res are tight unless you get rly lucky or spend some time

tp uplinks are pretty fucked at times

(Pure chaos)

4 scouts + cscouts and giant zone with stealth scans right after an alarm is just shit

We basically gotta have someone clear wave and the others fast stealth to stealth scan pull

then its another enemy packed zone after the 2nd alarm and the scout roll zone

at least that one feels rly good if you get through quickly

[ocean spindle]

4 foaam launchers strat

[tardy ingot]

and foam what?

[prime musk]

oh yeah and if you don't roll foggies you're stuck with infection after stealth scans too

[tardy ingot]

or 2nd alarm

[ocean spindle]

yes

[tardy ingot]

realistically you can probably get a sub 17 playing well

we had a ~17:30 if we didnt throw badly

sub 16 with full send probably

[prime musk]

idea
have sniper carrier be person with worst ping and have them silent shoot stealth scan room

it's faster than meleeing the giants at least

[frail heart]

Discord threw that run 😔

[frail heart]

Not allowed in glitchless

[prime musk]

?? ok

fair enough then

[tardy ingot]

nono I mean stuff like tgb putting in the wrong code for an uplink

[tardy ingot]

yea silent shots are only for glitched

[prime musk]

a lot of the category rules make little sense to me but im not going to argue about it because it's not very interesting

it's good enough

[tardy ingot]

id be surprised by what rules make little sense

[prime musk]

im like 2 seconds from falling asleep but i can dm my thoughts when i wake up

[pastel quartz]

Sniper sentry hello?

[halcyon current]

What's the exact halfway point in GTFO?

[tardy ingot]

time wise or level wise

[halcyon current]

Level wise, I imagine timewise it varies heavily by person

[ocean spindle]

level wise taking into acc gtfo is 82 [?] missions its 41 so r5b4

was it 83 or 82

[halcyon current]

I thought it was 84 ngl

[civic wave]

83 i think, or 84

[tardy ingot]

theres 83 levels
so 42 is halfway point

So its R5B4

[digital mural]

Who are You?

[tardy ingot]

with tutorial its 84

[ocean spindle]

no r6b4 is if 41

[halcyon current]

Neat, thank you both very much

[ocean spindle]

6+10+7+12=35, thats up to r4

[tardy ingot]

tutorial

[ocean spindle]

mhh :^

[tardy ingot]

I did cut my comment in half above

might notve been the best play

[halcyon current]

So, once I finish R4E1 and get about halfway through R5 I'll be halfway done GTFO

Give or take

[tardy ingot]

well

yesnt

in levels yea

[halcyon current]

In levels.

Timeline wise who knows

[ocean spindle]

tbh for me halfway through is about half of r4 considering u skipped r2d2/e1, the point ur fine for B missions, ok-ish on C and it gets hard on D

[halcyon current]

Personally I've skipped nothing except 2 PEs in R4 so far

On R4E1 rn, which I imagine will take a bit

[upper ginkgo]

if you p*b it, you'll probably first clear it pretty fast ngl

[tardy ingot]

pubbing is gambling

[halcyon current]

Yes

[tardy ingot]

some people just have stacked odds

[ocean spindle]

lets go gamblee!!!!
[slendi joins]
aww dangit

[upper ginkgo]

eh there's like the same 4 people playing r4e1 p&bs

you'll get one of them probs

[halcyon current]

I would also prefer not to be carried through it ngl, I've heard stories about R4E1 I'll be disappointed if it doesn't live up to it

[upper ginkgo]

like you're gonna have an easier time getting the r4e1 clear than r4c3 tbh

[pastel quartz]

Then you better go fetch codes yourself

[halcyon current]

R4C3 PE wasn't actually that bad tbh

I think it took 4 attempts pubbing?

Maybe 5

I'll probably start going for R4E1 PEs tomorrow

[upper ginkgo]

glgl

[halcyon current]

Thank you

[midnight gazelle]

timeline wise is weird because technically

||im pretty sure the ALT levels were running at the same time as Rundown 7 (and the OG team) since ALT really means alternate dimension and difference in voice logs (mainly with schaeffer). but if we are talking pre-alternates (basically early access) then lore wise its still half-way through GTFO lol (other than the lore that is before the timeline of the game)|| but idk, i dont pay too much attention to lore lol

[halcyon current]

Oh, that's tbh not what I meant at all, but I still appreciate it

By timewise I assumed they meant X number of hours until completion.

[whole grove]

I think it's possible to have 4 brand new players, who play together only for what I imagine to be part time, to complete GTFO within 100 hours.

To me half way felt like completing all A to C levels, then the excitement peaks for D-E levels for a while longer

[ocean spindle]

100 hoursssss to complete gtfo no nah

[frail heart]

100 hours is pretty generous

4 experienced players doing all layers at a semi speedrunning pace took 38 hours

[crystal blaze]

“Experienced” = 4K+ hours and has beaten ever mission 45 times

[stoic flare]

Hell no

[frail heart]

Yeah

And it still took 38 hours

Also

Actually nvm

[whole grove]

Well, assuming you're going in blind probably not haha

I think most people at least watch or look up stuff anyhow

But to be all blind, all new, I would surely go back in time to play this game where no one knew a thing

[past mesa]

100 hours

Is crazy frosty if a new team beat gtfo in 100 hours

They are gamers

[upper ginkgo]

100 hours is kinda crazy

could see 250+ hours

how fast are people learning the game nowadays

[past mesa]

Well if they are isolated

Not in pubs

[upper ginkgo]

yeah i'm curious to know how fast people are clearing if they get all the knowledge they need

[frail heart]

I know that’s what I’m saying

I guess I worded it wrong

100 is kinda crazy for a new team

[ocean spindle]

what was the point here kmsdkm

[whole grove]

It takes a special type of 4 gamers to play together seriously and that long

The dream team

[ocean spindle]

would still need a ton of practice, i entered gtfo knowing a lot about the game and i still got stuck on r1c2 hard

and on r7b1

[upper ginkgo]

find a friend group of 4 that bought the game together and actually full cleared the game w/o losing anyone (impossible)

[whole grove]

challenge: overwhelming

[tiny wyvern]

didn't spiff do just that

[upper ginkgo]

they haven't beat the entire game iirc

so for now it's technically false

[whole grove]

what about groups that have been since beta?

I kinda wonder how quick they would get through R1-R8 if it was all out

Still prob 200 something eh?

[frail heart]

That it took a third of the time for people who know these levels and are experienced

You aren’t gonna first try every level

[ocean spindle]

they have all E tiers left along some D tiers and spiff had like 300 hours by the time he finished e2

so like

no

[ocean spindle]

everyone from beta probs stopped playing or turned into some vet and idk if theres an inbetween tbh

[frail heart]

Also people having played in beta and such doesn’t mean they are good at the game

[past mesa]

They haven’t beat the game yet

[frail heart]

Idek how much they have beaten

[sturdy glen]

did you know they havent beat everything yet

[tiny wyvern]

They're missing some levels, but I think they're on good pace?

They're still together, so maybe they'll make it

that would be something to look forward to

[prime musk]

they'll struggle a bit with the remaining E tiers (especially 7e1 i think) but no doubt they get through it

[past mesa]

Are they still running the e tiers

Let’s go

[frail heart]

I’d hope so

[prime musk]

^ id very much enjoy 4 more gtfo videos, one for each E tier left

[sturdy glen]

we'll drop the gauntlet run before that happens

[crystal blaze]

400 hours is more reasonable, the game is just a tiny bit hard

[past mesa]

Sub 2:30 gauntlet

Before spiff clears r7e1

[prime musk]

doesn't that require like
never wiping

[past mesa]

And getting good times

[prime musk]

the times have to be good but in every level there will be a few minutes of leeway compared to wr

[past mesa]

20 35 20 25 16:35 45

It gets close

Very quickly with okay ish times

[prime musk]

oh you are counting 8e1 in the guantlet

[past mesa]

Yeah

[prime musk]

i was counting without it

with it it's a lot tighter

[sturdy glen]

whjat

since when are we doing r8e1

[fathom ice]

what's happening

[past mesa]

It is part of gauntlet

we knew this

[sturdy glen]

broooooooooo

[past mesa]

All e tiers

In a row

Not *all e tiers

[sturdy glen]

ok were not doing sub 2:30 then lol

[past mesa]

Sub 2:30 we got for sure

I don’t think it is that bad

[fathom ice]

u need to play near wr pace psure

[prime musk]

jish this is like 2:41

[sturdy glen]

no its really bad jish

its doable without r8e1

[prime musk]

you need to save 2 minutes on each of the not 8e1 times
and getting 18 33 18 23 ew 43 is like barely worse than wr for every level

this is like within scan rng variance

[sturdy glen]

man I thought gauntlet ignored r8e1

that sucks

[prime musk]

it does jish just has a bad opinion

[past mesa]

Our run won’t be verified on SRC

Chill

NOOOO

[sturdy glen]

oh noooooooo

what a shame

just splice a fuckin r8e1 in there

[prime musk]

jish needs validation from a tier runner

[past mesa]

It is doable

[sturdy glen]

fuck it

[past mesa]

Ngl

[sturdy glen]

CRAZY comment

LOL

[fathom ice]

I mean there's place to cut corners ig

brazil skip is almost required

and every seed has to be decent

[prime musk]

no it just is required
you'd have to have insane runs before running 7e1 to consider skipping brazil skip

[sturdy glen]

the reasonable times are sub 20 40 20 25 50

and a lot of those are fucked

[past mesa]

I think

[fathom ice]

ye

[past mesa]

Sub 37 r4e1

[sturdy glen]

jish you have to remember we get no rolls for rng

[prime musk]

is this counting r4e1 secondary or main only

[sturdy glen]

you have to play bad rng

[sturdy glen]

im ngl the rules are not clear enough on SRC

imo it should be secondary included + no r8e1

[prime musk]

which e tier has biggest variance in time based on rng

[fathom ice]

either 2 or 4

[sturdy glen]

probably 4

[fathom ice]

yeah

[sturdy glen]

idk id much rather do a cool gauntlet run for fun

than do an SRC compliant one

[fathom ice]

so true !!

[sturdy glen]

no point in doing the autoscroller r8e1

in a category nobody is gonna run anyways

[fathom ice]

I think sub 3 hours would be gut

[past mesa]

But chill we could save

[fathom ice]

including r8e1

[past mesa]

One second

By walking

[sturdy glen]

sub 3 wiht r8e1 would be the goal

[past mesa]

It isnt an auto scooper

There is a trick

[prime musk]

sub 3 hours is just "don't wipe"

[past mesa]

There is time save

[past mesa]

Yeah

don’t wipe cell skip

Don’t 3 down

[sturdy glen]

dont wipe with our strats

its not THAT easy

[past mesa]

na sub 3 hour is free chill

[sturdy glen]

you cut out hte strats on like

r5 r7 and r8

[past mesa]

30 40 30 25 55

[sturdy glen]

bc theyre all too dangerous

[past mesa]

The only forced thing is cell skip

[prime musk]

i mean just run r5e1 first for sub 3

[past mesa]

Na

Based do it in order

[prime musk]

do it in order and wipe on cs/brazil skip an hour into running

glhf

[fathom ice]

they'd never

[sturdy glen]

thats why you dont do brazil skip...

[past mesa]

Brazil skip isn’t worth

Unfortunately

[prime musk]

this is why sub 3 with 8e1 is boring

[fathom ice]

oookayy

[past mesa]

It saves one min

[sturdy glen]

I dont think you understand lol

[past mesa]

And adds a 90 wipe chance

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