gtfo-related-questions

[minor fractal]

85%

So maybe very strong?

Might be worth trying in E2 solo

But generally probably better to run other boosters if at all

[prime musk]

even with every wave far spawning it would just run out of ammo

[minor fractal]

You want sentry to answer tank tbh

in E2 solo

[prime musk]

if it is a hel gun angle then maybe hel auto cleaning up double bodyshot kills is worth

i still think it'd have ammo problems

hel gun seems less punishing to me just because you have to hit 2 shots anyways so getting bubble pirece on one of the shots is easier than doing it when you only get a single chance with hel rifle

[stable quarry]

Hi gues ! I've question, I try the R1C1 mission with the reactor. It's really complex, you've some tips ?

[prime musk]

@digital mural

[digital mural]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[stable quarry]

Oh okay I see

Thank for all tips

[stoic flare]

I love cap

Thank you cap

USA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[grizzled widget]

Is it just me, or do other people also have the instinctual urge to put their sniper sentry on top of the tallest stack of boxes or shelves they can reach?

-- I've done parkour to place my turret down before

[glad sun]

Yes, but I don't know if it does anything to how it shoots or not

My team yells at me to place it somewhere else

[grizzled widget]

It should make it more likely to hit the head rather than the chest since it is aiming downwards...

That's the justification I use, anyway

[grave obsidian]

Yes exactly haha

[knotty relic]

This is my favorite part of class!!!

[burnt inlet]

I’ve heard sentries haven’t been reliable on shooting at angles but idk if it’s true or not

[knotty relic]

I mean, they have to track a target running past them instead of at them.

But realistically I don’t think it really effects it.

[stoic musk]

does anyone now this weeks code for R8A2?

[prime musk]

@digital mural

[stoic musk]

thanks

[native sun]

Also https://andocas.com/gtfo/r8a2/ in case A2 ever wants to rest

[broken zealot]

yo guys, what should i use as my main, to easier explain what i want, i am bad at hitting headshots, want to kill from middle to long range, no hel guns

i can hit heads but i might hit 1 or 2 into the body

[tardy ingot]

Few questions

Why mid-high range?
Why no hel?

[broken zealot]

i like to play in the back line (behind everyone else, to kill a few to give my team more flexibility) and no hel because i cant line up for shit

[safe cradle]

Middle to long main without headshots... Carbine is short to mid if you want

[tardy ingot]

Well most mid-high range weapons want at least 1 headshot per enemy preferably

And hel (in this case rly only hel revolver since hel auto pistol and shotgun are short ranged) doesnt need line ups to be great, it just makes it go even harder.

Realistically high range guns include

Dmr (hs + bs for strikers, hs only for shooters)
Hel revolver (hs + bs for both)
Burst rifle
Carbine
Rifle (hs + 2 bs for strikers)

Double tap rifle kinda, but it isnt as easy on higher ranges and you basically always want to do a hs+bs combo

[broken zealot]

not without headshots, i can hit headshots but it might be a bit difficult

[safe cradle]

Just use carbine

Darkeva made a nice explanation tbh

[tardy ingot]

headshots in gtfo especially at high ranges are pretty simple since enemies move in a line

Overall carbine (burst rifle if you rly want extra range) are the simplest
I wouldnt force myself to play mid-high only, especially considering that most gtfo combat is low-mid range

[tardy ingot]

[safe cradle]

Why sad?

I said you nice!

[broken zealot]

hs = headshot
bs = backshot right?

[safe cradle]

bodyshot

[broken zealot]

damn

can you explain to me why the carbine is called a extremely good weapon

played with it

yeah it has good ammo effeciency but i dont get it

[tardy ingot]

cant believe you wrote Darkeva

Its so joever

[safe cradle]

I mean it's not extremely good it's just hard to use it bad

[tardy ingot]

Its ammo efficiency isnt actually good

its ok

it has high burst potential (shoots fast/kills pretty fast), „big“ mag size, fast reload, good or alright at everything but super high range. Easy to hit shots with and stagger

[ocean spindle]

d4rk3v4

[broken zealot]

oh so its like a jack of all trades assault rifle

[ocean spindle]

burst rifle

:D

[broken zealot]

ye

[ocean spindle]

well theres a gun thats called a burst rifle already but

u get what im saying

[safe cradle]

Take it this way, newbies take AR thinking it does what actually Carbine does.

Minus some range I guess.

[broken zealot]

im gonna try the rifle, dmr and carbine

[safe cradle]

I'd say DMR really wants hs

[grizzled patrol]

Slug + high cal

[ocean spindle]

dmr is pretty hs intensive yes

[tardy ingot]

carbine range is basically AR range sleepo

[safe cradle]

No I mean they expect longish range like AKs in most FPS

[tardy ingot]

it has 5 meters less max falloff

but higher dmg so its simply better (also far better recoil for higher range)

ah

[crystal blaze]

The scattergun is a better main

Trust

[tardy ingot]

tbh all non 20+ dmg semi auto guns want headshots

[ocean spindle]

i will buff ar give it 20 range high headshot damage and make the recoil bullpup style

and then eliminate bullpup

from the game

[crystal blaze]

I want to buff AR so it 1-shots tanks and has infinite ammo

[tardy ingot]

Weakest modded weapon

[safe cradle]

I now remember the guy with modded guns that had bannable names

[ocean spindle]

me when occlusions sawed off scattergun

:3

[fathom ice]

me when gtfr

double scatter goes hard

[safe cradle]

Okay

wait

go to #gtfo-media

[broken zealot]

when using the carbine, should i aim for heads until the head explodes then hit the body? or just hit the body

[ocean spindle]

me accidentally dropping my scattergun in the beginning of r4c2 and then going around the level trying to search it: Where did I put the Scattergun yo.

[ocean spindle]

aim for head till it explodes, should do in one burst

sometimes u can also hit the body and make the head explode by accident but shouldnt be a big issue

u just go full bs then

[broken zealot]

thanks

[burnt inlet]

wait you can drop stuff?

[wild flare]

Nope

[burnt inlet]

ok tyty

[low radish]

Guys what tools would be the best for R8C1

we are going duo

[tardy ingot]

main or pe

And actual duo or with bots

[low radish]

PE and actual duo

we took bio and c-foam for now but probably should've taken sentry

[tardy ingot]

it depends on what you personally struggle with I guess

[low radish]

Shadows

[tardy ingot]

And how you wanna play the level

[low radish]

i mean without bio we are cooked

so we want to more prevent the enemies from getting to us in the first place

[tardy ingot]

theres multiple ways to deal with shadows

(I presume you are finishing sec before doing overload)

A precision rifle can easily clear out the shadow waves and cfoam/mines (or similar) can cover the shadow alarm in secondary

Bio and sentry is more general shooting focused for that alarm, but generally makes the rest easier

[low radish]

yep sec first

[low radish]

yeah we have anti shadow weapons, bio and c-foam

we want to delay them as muich as possible

[grizzled patrol]

Does foam even Help in overload?

[frail heart]

bio and sniper sentry is good

[tardy ingot]

for overload just know that

1. once first sequence is over you can calmly clear out the waves, then kill the other zones fully and loot up
2. you only have 4 possible terminal spots per run (they dont change inside each zone for that unique attempt you are doing). So you dont have to expect other ones in a zone
3. all main zone terms can be done by the person confirming the code themselves

[tardy ingot]

Yup

[tardy ingot]

Only rly for nightmare scout kil

[frail heart]

The level has a 100% chance for a cfoam nade somewhere

At least to my knowledge

[tardy ingot]

and you can simply shoot it last or even just trigger it

theres enough res

[frail heart]

yeah

one scout wave does not matter

[tardy ingot]

Honestly scariest points 100% would be 1st sequence and maybe shadow alarm

Everything else you just insta plug pretty much

[low radish]

why the 1st?

[frail heart]

zones arent cleared

so if you dont get mid term

you have to go through a zone with enemies

[tardy ingot]

You actually have to fight the waves for that sequence aswell

Since main term gotta run all the way up and down again

meanwhile for 2nd and 3rd you just have 1 guy upstairs in the middle waiting for which side zone it is

And if its center they probably reach the 1 semi upstairs one first aswell, while the other ones can be done by the person starting it

[low radish]

oh

i forgot about that part

dang

[safe cradle]

I dont know why it's apparently a liked map

R8C1 is way too weird with how you select stuff

[tardy ingot]

Its a command..

theres way better reasons to dislike the level

[safe cradle]

yeah but the whole game has bulk terminals

the performance in r8c1 isn't good

I find overload bizarre

[tardy ingot]

the borked fog mechanic
Secondary being barely anything
An automatic doorbug tile

[safe cradle]

automatic doorbug?

[tardy ingot]

theres a room where enemies (if you dont kill them) get stuck due to a door being borked for them

[safe cradle]

heh

[low radish]

ah yes

R8C1 the least bugged mission

[wild flare]

yeah, i watched t-nenpi video and saw only 2 giants on main room with terminals and was like wtf

turns out most of enemies got stuck on one of the previous zone sides

[frail heart]

literally just an automatically doorbugged door in that level

enemy pathing does not like that tile

[wild flare]

bots dont like that room too

[slender zenith]

is there a chance for scouts not to spawn in overload of r7d1?

[errant dome]

ya

not rlly sure if its a bug or intended but in my experience its about 50/50

[slender zenith]

yah we had 2 giants instead?

[errant dome]

that matches what i had when i didnt have any scouts

[ocean spindle]

might be intended then

funny

buty intended

[broken zealot]

what should i give the bots

main and special

[errant dome]

Heavy smg/Burst rifle for main, veruta or burst cannon for special

[ocean spindle]

melees are all the same for them, they hold the same values

[tulip warren]

hi guys

does anyone know th difference between the big white dots and the red little dots on the bio scanner?

[sudden nexus]

giving knife to bots makes them play better because knife is objectively the best melee

[grizzled widget]

the little dots are bugs.

ignore them.

[tulip warren]

oh

okay

thanks

[grizzled widget]

the only ones that matter are the whites, for sleeping, and reds for active/moving

[tulip warren]

so red little are like white ones

[ocean spindle]

red dots are just a lil bug

[grizzled widget]

yes.

[tardy ingot]

I love when beginners sometimes get confused and wonder how the "bug" enemy type looks like

as if they were actual bugs

[low radish]

The bug striker is my favorite enemy

[safe lantern]

ive never played before and only seen videos, do you guys think this game is worth the price tag even if i have like no friends? do new people still play? i dont klnow much about gtfo it just looked really cool and watned to know from people who like actually have played the game?

[low radish]

Yes

It's worth, the game managed to hook me up for 500 hours and I'm not letting it go anytime soon

I had no friends play it but I met amazing people around here

There's always someone who's up to play with you

And new people also still play

[safe lantern]

ok ill prolyl buy it then. I just gotta figure out this group system

[low radish]

I saw some of them around playing today

You can check #how-to-matchmake

For a rundown

Pun intended

[safe lantern]

thanks so much

[tiny wyvern]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1255623780706029588
For more info on red dots

[low radish]

No problem, if you ever need more help or want to play just give me a ping or dm. Have fun!

[soft crater]

[tulip warren]

how hard is to complete R4C1 alone with 3 bots?

[soft crater]

Yes

[low radish]

What was R4C1

[soft crater]

Playing solo with bots requires different strats vs 4man

[low radish]

I forgot

Wait did C1 have a surge

[tulip warren]

i've never player with 3 teammates

[low radish]

Or only C2 and C3

[low radish]

You should give it a try it's better than with bots

But R4C1 overall is possible with bots

I don't know how hard it is I don't remember that level

[tulip warren]

i'm in the final phase i think

[low radish]

Oh?

[tulip warren]

i couldn't

[low radish]

:[

You can always try again :3

[tardy ingot]

R4C1 main with 3 bots is easy. Having only 1 remotely challenging part

R4C1 with sec is a bit of a hassle... but also not "horrible"

[tulip warren]

i reached the final phase, dying while trying to reach the evacuation point

did well until then tho

[tulip warren]

i'll do, ty

[safe cradle]

Ehhh I'd say secondary is kinda bad because vanilla bots and chargers give me some PTSD

It's doable of course

Main is easy

[low radish]

I forgot what even R4C1 is

[safe cradle]

Secondary is like 11 codes uplink

[tulip warren]

i don't remember which mission was it, it had big chargers, THAT gave me PTSD

[tulip warren]

🥸

[safe cradle]

Main is Ball of Information Thingy and a tank with error

[low radish]

Oh wait two terminals

[tardy ingot]

1

its a 12 code uplink

its just long

[low radish]

Or not I think I've confused it with something else

Oh

[tardy ingot]

very bleh secondary

[low radish]

I haven't been on it for so long I only remember the tank

[tardy ingot]

R4C1 unironically is super chill and quick on main

secondary is just "terminals at the end of long zone" then super long uplink

[tulip warren]

is it with error alarm or just the uplink

[tardy ingot]

uplink

[safe cradle]

uplink is only uplink waves with chargers

[tulip warren]

i hatechargers

[tardy ingot]

uplinks generally end in an error if its the main objective

[safe cradle]

error starts when you pick ball up from ball thingy

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle is your friend

[tardy ingot]

when you put it in

[tulip warren]

yeah i saw that

[tardy ingot]

well after a bit

[tulip warren]

which gun do you guys use?

[safe cradle]

error is of normal enemies anyway

[tardy ingot]

R4C1 speedrun was fun (if only it wasnt 3 random ass blood doors of which 2 are noticeably slower)

[tardy ingot]

I love the 2 funny hybrids at the start

[tulip warren]

they were fun to kill

[safe cradle]

refer to the scattergun song

to trivialize most challanges in this game

[ocean spindle]

for bot runs u usually need to have the big power so probs somethin akin to a burst cannon or better even a scattergun to deal with the ending

as for ur main uh whatever works, sawed off, carbine, hel revo, etc etc

[tulip warren]

okay

ty guys

<3

[knotty relic]

Yeah I like that the tank is sleeping in that level. Much nicer to deal with if you nib the error wave so you can set up around the tank and erase him from existence.

[ocean spindle]

does someone kno fun facts about r4

[minor fractal]

OG had the weakest balance state of any rundown, w/ 12 damage Revo and Shotgun as the strongest two specials. Strongest Main was probably DMR?

And then the Alt added Sniper Sentry, 3-pen HEL Revo, and 5-burst BC w/ cancel

[hardy grotto]

it was 8 pen wasnt it

[minor fractal]

I think there's no way

If it was 5-pen, that's unhinged

[hardy grotto]

well it wouldnt have been 8 pen obvs

but

thats what i remember

[ocean spindle]

the alt? u mean the og still?

[hardy grotto]

he means extension

[minor fractal]

It looks like it was 5 pen

which is still crazy

no wonder it was OP

[hardy grotto]

i think there were a few other reasons that it was also op

[ocean spindle]

oh

[minor fractal]

wym?

Everything else was p bad, for sure

Like, DMR being runner up

is kind of insane

Considering I think it was still 10 mag

This is the world fnsrlwhoever wanted

[hardy grotto]

dmr had dogshit body damage too didnt it

[minor fractal]

idk

[hardy grotto]

ok im telling you it did

it was like 4 shot to chargers

maybe more??

idr

but hel revo also had like

2x stagger multi or smth

i remember being able to keep 2 big chargers staggered withi t while i was backed into a corner

unhinged primary weapon

[minor fractal]

2.2 stagger

huh????

[hardy grotto]

2.2 is crazy

og r4, the beginning of the end...

[ocean spindle]

r5 was funny times i guess

[minor fractal]

DMR doesn't have 3-tap body on strikers

and is 5-shot charger

It had 12 mag, tho

I do wonder what they were thinking

[ocean spindle]

being silly

[dusty basalt]

Does artifact heat actively decrease during a game when collecting artifacts or only after a run is completed?

[safe cradle]

I think only on run completion

But not completing it means artifact progress goes away

Long story short if you want to """farm""" artifacts for boosters: Don't, but if you really really want to choose shit you can get arts fast then blow yourself up (artifact progress remains IF you go back to lobby by dying).

[dusty basalt]

interesting

[grizzled widget]

the only time artifacts are worth it is if you are stacking to 100% inf resist

otherwise they are a crutch and not worth farming

[dusty basalt]

I just like geting that slight main damage boost for guarenteed DMR headshot kill and some people just ignore bold boosters

I supposed they might still ignore them for more artifact heat for aggressive

[grizzled widget]

i'd reccomend trying out the secondary revolver, it is designed specifically for headshotting minors

[safe cradle]

I mean I'm not like some people that scoff as soon as you slot in a +5% glowstick power, but they really aren't needed to finish an expedition

[safe cradle]

Heat is base indipendently from that

It's not a multiplier on art type

It's like heat from Payday 2

[grizzled widget]

as you complete an expedition you get less progress from that same expedition

it is meant to make you play different expeditions,

and not run r1a1 a dozen times

[digital mural]

`
Artifact Heat is a mechanic present on the Rundown UI. The number will dictate how valuable each artifact is within a given level.

At 100% heat, each artifact will contribute towards 0.15 Booster progress, or 15%. As heat decreases, so will its progress towards a Booster. Artifact heat will never reach below 20% (at this heat level, artifacts will increase the Booster progress by 0.03).

Artifact heat will decrease by 1% for every artifact collected in the current expedition regardless of type. Artifact heat will increase by 1% for all other expeditions every 3 artifacts collected. Artifacts will only be counted as collected when you complete a level, fail a level, or retire to lobby. Exiting the game or returning to the desktop will not grant you any artifact progression.
`

[safe cradle]

Now if you mean that taking only aggressives maximizes the heat reduction compared to taking multiple muted, I've honestly no idea

But I really doubt anyone ever makes those calculations when ignoring artifacts

Some just ignore them because they dont care, other because they hate boosters

[dusty basalt]

this is eaxactly what I meant

[grizzled widget]

cpu speed is fun with the sniper sentry

thats just about the only other thing i can think of

[digital mural]

Glowstick booster

[safe cradle]

I just slot in whatever shit I have that doesn't have horrible negatives like -meleedmg% and call it a day

[grizzled widget]

i instant delete any that have conditions to trigger

i can't be bothered

because as you said, they aren't needed

their entire purpose is to help a team that is REALLY STRUGGLING with an expedition pull through

[burnt inlet]

GTFO gods I have a question

[grizzled widget]

but honestly they don't even do a great job at that,

[grizzled widget]

because they are random drops

and have limited uses

[dusty basalt]

Do human proximity artifacts do nothing if you play 100% solo without bots?

[grizzled widget]

correct.

otherwise they'd always be active

because you are human

[dusty basalt]

Is human proximity by nearby human count or by how close an ally is?

[grizzled widget]

its a yes/no for any singular nearby human

[dusty basalt]

oh, that's good

what's the range on that?

[grizzled widget]

iirc between 10 and 20

i forget

meters

a couple dudes length away

closer to 10

[dusty basalt]

so basically human proximity artifacts is guaranteed if you play with bots

[grizzled widget]

pretty much

but you shouldn't really be relying on boosters

[digital mural]

But how wide is each dude?

[grizzled widget]

depends.

[dusty basalt]

I don't, I just really like that one shot headshot

I'll just use double tap otherwise

[grizzled widget]

seriously man, give the secondary revolver a shot. it's what it was designed for. in ogr1, i ran both the dmr and the revolver

it sucks at killing anything other than strikers and shooters. it is a horde clear secondary

like the minigun/veruta

it just focuses more on kills than stuns

[dusty basalt]

I can try it out again, but I didn't really like the revo last time I tried it. More of a high caliber pistol, but now I use hel rifle.

[grizzled widget]

hi-cal is a bit of a mix between the old r6 version of the sniper and the revolver

the revolver def takes a bit of practice.

because it's genuinely a headshot or nothing gun, like primary DMR

[dusty basalt]

Doesn't revo only have like 20 bullets though?

[gusty aurora]

has anyone seen a graphical effect where like, large distortion bubbles cover parts of the screen? is it a bug or is it representing something in-game?

[grizzled widget]

wdym? reserve is 46

max is 52 rounds

[dusty basalt]

hmm

[grizzled widget]

black spot bug. it's a very old bug related to blood splatters

just ignore it, it will go away after 1 minute or so

[gusty aurora]

aight

[grizzled widget]

(kinda hard to do if its blacking out your entire screen, but ik)

[gusty aurora]

its happened to my group twice now so i was curious bc it definitely could be mistaken for a sanity loss type thing

[grizzled widget]

hi-cal has 31

maybe that is what you were thinking of

hi-cal can kill giants and stuff

[dusty basalt]

I don't use special weapons for regular enemies anymore

Need some sort of high damage for heavy enemies

[grizzled widget]

there are a bunch of weapons designed specifically for that.

Short Rifle, Combat Shotgun, Revolver, Veruta Machine Gun, Hel-Gun

[grizzled widget]

try the primary sawed off if you are running a mob-clear secondary

it can one-mag a giant

but most of the time i run mob clear on both slots

idk

its just never been a big issue for me

[dusty basalt]

DMR and double tap are my mob clearers

[grizzled widget]

but yeah, i'd say mix it up. some of the best secondaries are mob clears (looking at you veruta, you meta monster)

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[grizzled widget]

i mean one man can hold an entire horde with the veruta...

[digital mural]

Frostty

You are going to make half of the people angry

[grizzled widget]

am i OGr2 braining or something?

[digital mural]

😔

[hardy grotto]

this is gonna be good

[wild flare]

veruta scope sucks, arbalist is goat

[digital mural]

Scattergun has the best scope

[grizzled widget]

arbalist used to be the goat

they ruined it in r5

[low radish]

What is this veruta slander i'm hearing

[minor fractal]

Metagame is semis and especially pen tbh.

[grizzled widget]

it has never been the powerhouse it was in r1

[low radish]

how was it in R1

[grizzled widget]

double the damage it has now

practically an entirely different gun

slower fire rate, less max ammo

[low radish]

That sounds way better actually

as a wave killer

[grizzled widget]

they turned it into a clone of the veruta

just worse

since veruta was already the fast fire rate shredder

[low radish]

yep

[grizzled widget]

arbalist in og was only in r1 and r5. they replaced it with the veruta in r2

[minor fractal]

Its damage is close to unchanged, it just has a gimped breakpoint.

[low radish]

I always use veruta i like to just go srutututututut on waves

like i don't use arbalist if i have to pick

[grizzled widget]

Rundown 5: Replaced Veruta. Major overhaul, damage decreased from 2 shotting a striker to 3-4 shotting a striker, magazine size increased from 20 to 40 (Exact values require data mining from Rundown 1 or before)

from wiki

[hardy grotto]

the mg super backwalk goes hard

[grizzled widget]

though i have pics from ogr1 with 25 in the mag...

so idk what the wiki is talking about

76%
25 mag
56 reserve

[low radish]

you know guys what i need

burst pistol buffs

i love it but it's so shit

[hardy grotto]

It also got buffed a bunch in alt rundowns

so

Wiki isn’t really giving you much info

[grizzled widget]

according to my old pics, ogr1 arbalist had
100% ammo
25 mag
82 reserve

i used it practically every expedition... so happen to have a lot of pics with it in the top right

[tardy ingot]

Some of them are absolutely game breaking and can basically remove entire mechanics from the game

Others are mega useless tho aswell

Boosters arent well designed ngl

[tardy ingot]

If you are using hel rifle, pls also use it to wave clear

[low radish]

I agree

like 100% infection resistance

[tardy ingot]

supply efficiency
Cfoam
Bio scan speed
Specific guns with dmg boosters
Dmg resis
Even med efficiency/regen cap

[low radish]

Those too

[tardy ingot]

Wiki is legit wrong quite often

Specifically at parts that havent been overlooked and made up to date and well… parts where random pubs change stuff with missinfo

[low radish]

Like if you take supply eff on levels that give you less ammo on purpose it sort of negates the mechanic of you getting less ammo

like in R5C3

[low radish]

yeah which is why i also think we should change wiki

[ocean spindle]

guys remember the wiki can be edited by anyone

and also that if u dont want u can put it in wiki chat

if u see misinfo dont just let it stay there

[halcyon current]

Seriously?

[ocean spindle]

yipiies

[halcyon current]

If I see something blatantly wrong I'll change it then

[ocean spindle]

:D

[digital mural]

Time to rename Giants to Juggers

[ocean spindle]

time to kill u

[soft crater]

[broken zealot]

how do i stamina reset?

[carmine grotto]

As in getting your stamina back or maintaining it for longer periods?

[broken zealot]

both

[carmine grotto]

1: stop running

2: by crouching and uncrouching as you sprint you'll slide. This won't eliminate your stamina drain but extends it by a ton

[broken zealot]

alright thanks

[ocean spindle]

does it by a ton i thought it was a little

well as other general advice is taking shortcuts between tiles ot be able to walk for a second, thats about the msot helpful is to stop running

while still makin distance

and dont dodge it isnt worth it

[broken zealot]

is there a way to disable dodging? i accidentally dodge all the time

[carmine grotto]

Just stop holding sprint while standing still

[ocean spindle]

uhhh i dont believe so? gotta be careful with it

u can maybe find a mod to do that

but its also just conditioning urself to not do it

[broken zealot]

thanks gang

[civic wave]

use toggle sprint instead iirc

but really, just practice and build the habit of not doing it accidentally

[civic wave]

i recall someone (i think either tru or eva) saying something along the lines of for every 30 seconds you're running, sliding saves you 1 second

[tardy ingot]

⬆️

[carmine grotto]

Not 100% sure of the exact facts of it. Just know that I saw benefits and results after I got in the habit of doing it.

[tardy ingot]

it does change depending on whether you are in or out of combat obviously

[sturdy glen]

its not worth the extra inputs imo

[tardy ingot]

but generally stamina resetting well matters more than sliding while sprinting

[sturdy glen]

if you want a habit its fine

[sturdy glen]

this

[carmine grotto]

Too late, in the muscle memory of playing now lol

[sturdy glen]

as well as avoiding things like jumping

and dodge

[tardy ingot]

in context of speedrunning it does matter
in context of normal running its just a habit (which is fun for me since it makes running around less monotone)

[tardy ingot]

you mean like reload blackhops

[minor fractal]

It makes a surprisingly significant stam differerence, I think

[carmine grotto]

The 7 bhops in a row is crazy though

[minor fractal]

It might be a larger difference than back when it was a speed boost, even.

[civic wave]

blackhops are rng anyway, just like key spawns

[tardy ingot]

also its the first is just not using stamina (the exception is shoving) or charging your melee

if you charge your melee that stops stamina from regenerating

[sturdy glen]

I do it smartly most of the time smh

[tardy ingot]

out of combat, no
in combat the difference is probably slightly bigger

[tardy ingot]

[sturdy glen]

ive learned from whenever its hurt me when I shouldnt be doing it

[tardy ingot]

theres also the thing with slide running that nobody does it perfectly

you preferably would want to keep the slide for as long as your speed doesnt drop

and stop right before that would happen

but generally people stop it earlier (or mess it up and lose speed)

or even worse... accidental crouch because you did another one too early (or did one after airtime)

[carmine grotto]

Macro time

Or just download the older version on the game and boom, no stamina drain lol

[soft crater]

QoL Heroic Heart mfs be like

[craggy pier]

hi there, I want a something to ask about c foam

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/C-Foam

at this site, what is mean of glue torlerance?

[tiny wyvern]

[[C-Foam]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/C-Foam

[ocean spindle]

is the amount of units of foam to freeze an enemy

[tiny wyvern]

Glue tolerance means how many blobs of cfoam an enemy needs to be frozen

[ocean spindle]

well not

[tiny wyvern]

??

[ocean spindle]

apparently each blob has 3 units

reading the same page

Each blob from the C-foam launcher is 3 units

[tiny wyvern]

Ok well I just woke up so stuff like this happens sry

Slendo should be right

[ocean spindle]

its ok i made the exact same mistake

[craggy pier]

so charger scout is need to use 4 bubbles

however that page says a 10\

is that right?

[ocean spindle]

10 units, each blob being 3 units, 3 x 4 =12

[fathom ice]

gaslighting is in the air

[ocean spindle]

so yes 4 blobs should be enough

[craggy pier]

oh

got it

[ocean spindle]

maybe i am but i didnt write the section of the wiki

i just trust

[tiny wyvern]

Sky if we're wrong do correct us

[errant dome]

says the gaslighter

[tiny wyvern]

I don't think either of us run cfoam enough to know

[fathom ice]

I'd never

[tiny wyvern]

I can ask tru if the data is accurate

[fathom ice]

it takes 2 or 3 blobs sometimes

[errant dome]

it is 3 units per blob of c-foam launcher

[fathom ice]

as of why I got no idea

[errant dome]

its a bug i think

i was playing with hange one time

he was able to c-foam a NS with 1 blob

[ocean spindle]

same as how sometimes it takes more than 4 cuz the blobs collide and u lose units along the way

[fathom ice]

ye that too

[errant dome]

but it would only be foamed for like 2 seconds lol

its wack

[fathom ice]

my favourite game

[errant dome]

as for why that bug happens

i have no idea

[fathom ice]

star why are u up

it's 5 am

[errant dome]

cause its ramadan shrug

[fathom ice]

what is

[errant dome]

you prolly dont even know what that is lol

look it up

[fathom ice]

it's like a holiday or smth

[tiny wyvern]

@native sun Do you have a moment for cfoam questions?

[errant dome]

actually kinda curios what google would say lol

[fathom ice]

fish

[ocean spindle]

happy day for u :3 i do not kno enough about it to do any other remarks

but

🎉

[errant dome]

eh not rlly

what comes after is the holiday technically

[ocean spindle]

its reflection but

🎉

[errant dome]

xd

thx

[errant dome]

also u say that

isnt it 4am for u

[fathom ice]

just woke up

ehehehe

[ocean spindle]

spray

[errant dome]

nice sleep schedule

[fathom ice]

ty boss

[errant dome]

well better than not sleeping at least i suppose

[fathom ice]

ig

[prime musk]

has altr5a3 changed maps

as in not changed between og and alt

but changed between different versions in alt

[ocean spindle]

uhhhhh no i dont believe it has changed

did u found one of those funny prop change rooms

[prime musk]

no

the map of alt r5a3 supplied by hunters steam guide is wrong

but it is also different from the map he supplies for og r5a3

and it is also very clearly r5a3 still

[dusty basalt]

Does random sea foam ever despawn or anything? Like if I have like a million tool kits, could I just make a large area of sticky ground?

[prime musk]

it despawns after a few minutes

[dusty basalt]

😔

[prime musk]

(but cfoamed doors stay foamed forever)

[native sun]

I wrote the cfoam units stuff on the wiki and haven't looked at anything cfoam related in a long time. If the stuff on the wiki doesn't answer the question I probably won't be able to.

[tiny wyvern]

ok, thanks for the reply still

[crystal blaze]

I’m pretty sure it despawns after 5 minutes

If it’s on the ground

As for doors, it could be the case that they stay cfoamed forever, I’ve had cases where I’ve cfoamed doors in the beginning of a mission and an hour later I come back and the door is still cfoamed

[molten cipher]

anyone else experience a bug where like black ink slowly spreads on your screen til it covers it up?

[tiny wyvern]

Void bug

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1208344829096886284

[molten cipher]

on a r2e1 run, and there isnt a cell in 598 or 599

queried, and theres only cells 600 and bbeyhond

[tiny wyvern]

Even when you LIST CELL?

[molten cipher]

yeah

[tiny wyvern]

Are you playing modded?

[molten cipher]

topmost is 600 and beyond it 600+ rooms

no

[tiny wyvern]

How many cells are in the list?

[molten cipher]

we left already but there was like 5-6

[prime musk]

this can happen to the fog turbine where a fog turbine just doesn't spawn

[molten cipher]

we cleared both 598 and 599

[prime musk]

so ig maybe the same bug can happen with the cell?

[jagged shore]

it can definitely happen to cells in other contexts so that tracks i suppose

[fathom ice]

reset time !!

and that's why u check on term where is the cell

[tiny wyvern]

Haven't seen that happen for cell before

how does that happen anyways

[fathom ice]

if I'd had to guess

a box spawned on the place of cell

so it despawned

[errant dome]

are we talkin about r2e1

[fathom ice]

ye

[errant dome]

i think turbine and cell spawning in the same place can also cause it to despawn

but not sure tbh

[low radish]

wait is that even possible

what the hell

imagine doing the surge and the cell just despawns

[fathom ice]

i mean turbine despawns

[low radish]

imagine doing like R5D1 and the turbine despawns

I love this game

[fathom ice]

it despawns once u load

it can't despawn after

[low radish]

yeah

[fathom ice]

and it's like for very specific levels

[low radish]

Which ones not counting R2E1

out of curiosity

[grizzled patrol]

It happened to me once in one of my attempts, a slight inconvenience LMAO

[hazy wasp]

how are you supposed to deal with the massive backlog of enemies in the later stages of r2d2? we’re trying to sneak through scout rooms but it’s impossible when enemies are coming after us multiple minutes after the wave ends

it’s the main thing preventing us from beating the level

[tiny wyvern]

Don't push enemy spawns

[civic wave]

there's some rules/mechanics in reactors at play that are somewhat modifiable, which can help you not have stragglers late into the code searches

though sometimes enemies do get stuck regardless and it takes ages for their pathfinding to start working

[hazy wasp]

right now we’re defending round 4 and in the room adjacent to the reactor behind the class 4 alarm

[prime musk]

yeah that's a classic

[civic wave]

firstly, reactor waves will always spawn the same amount of enemies - if enemies cannot spawn due to the enemy cap being reached then they will be queued to spawn, and spawn whenever there is space in the enemy cap

this means that you can avoid late spawns by killing faster

[prime musk]

it's not reactor so it will have latespawns

[civic wave]

secondly, the further away you are from reactor the further away the enemies will spawn, meaning that by holding outside of reactor it takes longer to kill the enemies, and you'll deal with more late spawns

this part you can fix by holding in reactor, or most people hold on the initial bridge to reactor and don't run into too many problems

[prime musk]

for r2d2 having 1 or 2 people stay behind and be on straggler duty while the others clear forwards is completely valid too

[hazy wasp]

yeah the problem with that for us is the full team scan needed to open the security doors

[prime musk]

yes, you do the teamscan and then some people go back to hold remaining wave

[hazy wasp]

they usually catch up to us right as we do the scan, and or get shot by turrets and alert the whole zone

[tiny wyvern]

Just have bio be on the lookout for them when you do scans

Else you'll have them crawl up on you and kill you

[prime musk]

yeah they catch up and then you kill the wave and push up away from security doors

there is no way you're being pressured enough that you're backed up against the door with reactor stragglers

[hazy wasp]

alrighty

[tiny wyvern]

Besides in two scout room you usually don't want everyone in it anyways
And in scout room strags should be long dead before you get anywhere deep

[prime musk]

nah the stragglers in r2d2 can be extremely fucking nasty

that's the case for anything anywhere tbh but especially r2d2

like i have had enemies that are 4 minutes late on wave 4

where there are no siderooms enemies spawn from

(they all come from elevator and i hold on bridge)

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah that's true

[hazy wasp]

yeah it usually ends up being just me in there

[prime musk]

flip it

it should be everyone except you in there

you just hold the remains of the wave in 196B guarding the big door to 196D

[hazy wasp]

how come? we haven’t gotten to code 8, do we need the donut room cleared?

[prime musk]

do you want spoilers?

[hazy wasp]

i just wanna beat the level 😔

[prime musk]

alright

you will need to clear donut room.

[hazy wasp]

😦

[prime musk]

it's fine - just stealth until 1 scout is dead and shoot the second one

[tiny wyvern]

That or cut loses and just shoot one

[digital mural]

Shoot all scouts

[prime musk]

with 3 people going in as soon as wave over, timer shouldn't be tight

[tiny wyvern]

Normally I'd agree
But you don't actually have enough ammo that way

Especially first clear

[digital mural]

Yeah ammo might be a problem

[prime musk]

it adds pressure on straggler defense which i just wouldn't advise

[tiny wyvern]

You do what a buffer for poor weapon choice

[digital mural]

But if you are struggling it's worth to try

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah but better than having three people getting boxed in sometimes

And one person having to deal with two scout waves

[prime musk]

i suppose

[tiny wyvern]

Sometimes if the team isn't skilled enough cutting loses and save time is better

[prime musk]

when i solo it i just do that and shoot 1 scout and back out but i kinda wouldn't recommend it

[digital mural]

In my first clear we ended up waking all of the scouts
And we still had enough ammo

"enough"

[tiny wyvern]

It should still be tight, especially the fun zone near the end

[ocean spindle]

its not the ideal

[tiny wyvern]

If you get lost in there you get faqed in terms of ammo health

...R2D2 is a shitshow if you are on first clear anyways

[digital mural]

Shooting one scout should be good enough

[tiny wyvern]

You could also have one training their gun on one of the scout in case stealth goes bad

[prime musk]

if you wake 5scout zone ammo actually gets tight, especially if you don't shoot well

[tiny wyvern]

usually the strag clear guy

Either way good luck to you @hazy wasp
And don't get discouraged if you die there often

We certainly did

[hazy wasp]

🫡

[broken zealot]

why is the combat shotgun ranked higher than the choke mod shotgun?

[low radish]

well choke mod has 4 shells in mag and a 2.7 reload or something

[civic wave]

choke mod has been role crept pretty much

[low radish]

it's over 2 sec

[civic wave]

other guns do the same thing but way better

combat shotgun still has incredible ammo econ

[low radish]

also because combat is better at everything

does the fact that combat is automatic also make it better

[prime musk]

choke mod is role compression and that's about it

[hard nexus]

because combat shotgun shreds

[prime musk]

the prec multi makes it nice against hybrids ig

[hard nexus]

but different weapons tbh

[grizzled patrol]

it has better CC and ammo efficiency on smalls, if you need to kill a giant, just sawn off it

[hard nexus]

and when sawn off is empty mag combat shotgun has insane stagger

[broken zealot]

alright thanks gang

[frail heart]

sawed off shotgun is just a main weapon choke mod but better reload

[prime musk]

how consistent is choke mod 1tap on chargers

[hard nexus]

from what i recall its good

[tardy ingot]

if you hit in range

It kills

[frail heart]

idk i use good weapons

[grizzled patrol]

its slightly more accurate than hip High cal if i remember correctly, without the annoying falloff

[tardy ingot]

It works well enough for chill gameplay

But you cant do shots where you only clip them like with high cal/hel rifle or gun

[humble night]

It's bc combat shotgun is the best tank spin weapon

[fathom ice]

yes !!!

[tardy ingot]

Hel auto pp

[humble night]

Both top tier

[civic wave]

shotgun plays better

autopistol bad

[tardy ingot]

fair
4 hel pp tank fight is fun

very derpy

[civic wave]

shotgun no recoil

[frail heart]

just use spear

[humble night]

I'm watching ur stealth clip again

[frail heart]

make sure to subscribe

[tardy ingot]

Thank you

[tardy ingot]

Yes :^ )

[fathom ice]

hit that like button

[tardy ingot]

Statistically speaking only XX% of you are subscribed

You might think you are, but you likely arent!

[fathom ice]

i am

[tardy ingot]

I find these youtube reminders at least somewhat ok

Far better than
„Remember to like, comment and subscribe“

Altho appearantly that does work…

[prime musk]

idk i just don't subscribe ever

all my subscriptions are from fatfingering it when going into comments to read them and not bothering to unsub because it's a creator i like

[burnt inlet]

should i run r2b4 before r2c1?

[ocean spindle]

yis

in b4 u see a big item that u wont recognize if u go into c1

i got fished

i die

[burnt inlet]

aighty tyty

also what is fished?

i just saw fish in name

i fish

[ocean spindle]

fish :3

🐟

[burnt inlet]

🐟

[burnt inlet]

terminal 🗣️ 🔥

[ocean spindle]

"WE NEED A FUCKING TERMINAL!" - Woods [man of god]

[burnt inlet]

does knoife do same dmg as spear?

[ocean spindle]

uhhh no
its hard to determine cuz knife does like 5.5 per full charge but has a fuck ton of multis to make up for it including back dmg, sleeping enemy and precision

spear is more straightforward with it just being 17.5 i think alongside prec dmg

[grizzled widget]

spear can do front of the head scout... knife cant, so no

[burnt inlet]

oh ok, should i run spear or knoife as newbie?

[ocean spindle]

spear has the overall most dmg, not in the game thats still the hammer

[grizzled widget]

i'd unironically rec the hammer

[ocean spindle]

spear is a learning clutch, teaches u to kill scouts n shit but thats it

[grizzled widget]

spear behaves much differently. you can't sprint while charging

[ocean spindle]

then u can change to something else

[grizzled widget]

either learn hammer or knife

[burnt inlet]

oh ok, i told someone i ran spear and they told me go knoife

[grizzled widget]

spear and bat are derivative

[burnt inlet]

i might do hammer then

[ocean spindle]

yeah hammer/knife is really about the top melees

[burnt inlet]

[ocean spindle]

knifes real good for smalls and stuff and can be used for giants and scouts once u kno how it goes

hammer is just universal

[burnt inlet]

also might be fair to say that im running solo with 3 bots

[ocean spindle]

ok hammer then

[burnt inlet]

aighty

[grizzled widget]

bat is knife but stun and more base damage at the cost of sprinting like a maniac

[ocean spindle]

make ur life easier when battling bigs/scouts

[grizzled widget]

spear is more range than hammer but no sprint

[ocean spindle]

bat is tbh not bad for bot runs either

bat defo makes killing giants even easier than hammer with 3 bots as u can get two hits in

u just need to kno how to kill scouts with it

[grizzled widget]

don't all bots do the same melee regardless of what is equipped?

i swear i heard that not even a week ago

[ocean spindle]

yes, but as in bat u hit the giant and before it has a chance to slap the bots u hit it again, staggering

[burnt inlet]

they havent been so bad so far, i usually get two hits with spear and bots do remainder dmg

[ocean spindle]

bots then rush in with their default melees

[ocean spindle]

i mean its an option too its just that thing of getting the timing

and it is an easier timing with bat

but if u can do it hammer or spear is no issue then

[burnt inlet]

ima run hammer then

[ocean spindle]

:D

[burnt inlet]

i bonk da eeper

[low radish]

Become a knife enjoyer

[ocean spindle]

i [SANTONIAN_HDH] the [GALLUS REPTUS]

[low radish]

Like me

I mean knife is fun you can kill small enemies easier, but giants and scouts might be a problem for you

but with enough practice you can kill these too no issue

it is just harder than with spear and won't always work

[ocean spindle]

the knife player seeing the giant do the 180 stagger animation:

:[

[low radish]

I actually just hit the arms then

get that stagger

or i just run behind them, it takes practice but i learned to kill giants that bug into walls

it all takes practice

[burnt inlet]

first shot wins imo

[low radish]

?

[burnt inlet]

meant one shot

damn

brain working overtime

[low radish]

i mean

let's not pull all of the rooms in the game

[ocean spindle]

i mean its the same thing u need 2 3 knife hits

[low radish]

because it's hard to keep a gitant

[low radish]

yeah that's what i mean

if the giant spins around and i can't get behind him to hit legs i just hit arms

to get a stagger and then move behind it

so it doesn't meele me to death

[ocean spindle]

i mean its really the exact same but if u no get hit it works so it works

[low radish]

well yeah

i mean legs are also closer to eachother

so you can hit them faster than go one side to one arm and then the other side

idk for me what i stike it's a matter of the situation

[grizzled widget]

burst rifle
burst cannon
burst sentry

[burnt inlet]

im guessing someone needs to hold the turbine for it to function?

[low radish]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

yes

[low radish]

It will turn off after you leave it on the ground for some time

[grizzled widget]

it has a cooldown when you drop it

~5 seconds

so if you absolutely need to you can juggle it

it's probably best for the biotracker user to carry it because of this

[burnt inlet]

yea id dropped it before and heard it spool down so

[grizzled widget]

carry drop ping pick-up carry drop ping... etc

[burnt inlet]

yea but im running 3 bots and id need to command them everytime

[grizzled widget]

ah, i wouldn't do that with bots lol

too much micro

[burnt inlet]

yep

guys i think my game bug

[grizzled widget]

how so?

[burnt inlet]

brought fog machine to 763

and yk

did not do anything

[grizzled widget]

which expedition?

[burnt inlet]

no update to main objective

r2b4

no scan

[grizzled widget]

wanna check a terminal rq to see if there are multiple turbines?

[burnt inlet]

its the wrong turbine

[civic wave]

always the case

this gets so many people

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-tweak-tweaker-tweaking-freak-out-gif-16108345590627731463

bruh embed fail

[grizzled widget]

warden be like: NO, NOT THAT ONE, THE OTHER ONE!

[burnt inlet]

FUCK DA WARDEN

[grizzled widget]

starting to sound like schaeffer

[burnt inlet]

schaeffer right side no?

[grizzled widget]

OG schaeffer.

not ALT:// schaeffer.

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[grizzled widget]

both are very different characters

[burnt inlet]

i thought right side and left side was the diff not ALT

[grizzled widget]

you only see OG schaeffer in r7 and r8, because the og rundowns were removed

[grizzled widget]

oh, of r8...
left is ALT:// right is OG

[burnt inlet]

ooooooh ok

yea cuz spiff explained it like that

[grizzled widget]

r7 is the only playable OG worldline rundown. the others were removed over time

there are a lot of minor, a few major, differences between the two main worldlines.

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[wild flare]

is there any site with all possible 4-digit codes combinations?

[grizzled widget]

too many.
brute forcing isn't worth it.

[wild flare]

welp, i just did, code 2 out of 4 letters xd

[grizzled widget]

the english language has 3,996 four letter words

[wild flare]

i mean not ALL words, i have 2 symbols

[grizzled widget]

some, probably removed for profanity reasons. like fuck.

[grizzled widget]

what two letters do you have in what positions?

[wild flare]

.no.

it was snow

[grizzled widget]

oh, well there you go

[wild flare]

yeah, i just found nice site

[errant dome]

i dont think gtfo includes all 4 letter

tho its still not rlly worth guessing from scratch xd

[grizzled widget]

^

[errant dome]

oh i didnt see that mb

[burnt inlet]

wait you can play wordle in gtfo?

[grizzled widget]

some terminals are password locked.

[burnt inlet]

oh

[grizzled widget]

of those terminals, most have you go find the password on one other terminal

some have that password split between two or up to four other terminals

[burnt inlet]

interesting

[brazen storm]

what happend to most of the voice lines? I found youtube videos with all the voice lines from the characters and a lot of them i have never heard in the game. Were they removed?

[grizzled widget]

this is going to sound like a stupid response, but it is true

[stoic adder]

does it make sense to wait for players in team selection?

[grizzled widget]

the majority of the community complained about the story being forced on them, so the devs removed them in the rereleases

for example, all but one of the audio that would play mid-expedition in r6 was either moved to terminals, or flat out deleted

all of it is still canon to that worldline, but now harder to access.

us people that care about the lore/story are the minority here.

[brazen storm]

Kinda sucks because i would love to see more character interactions

[tardy ingot]

@wild flare if im not wrong its about 733 or so words

@little pilot has a tool that has all

[grizzled widget]

yes. if you invite players to your game mid-run it tends to cause bugs

[wild flare]

oh nice

[grizzled widget]

part of it is a side-effect of the game not really having a story prior to r5

i mean it had lore, very little of it, and what it had was extremely hidden

back then the lore channel was mostly theories with no substance

[grizzled widget]

*OGr5, not the alt://rerelease

[little pilot]

https://github.com/Tgb03/Logger/releases/tag/2.0.0 in settings turn on the code guesser and u will be able to see all possibilities automatically

[wild flare]

tyvm 🫡

[little pilot]

np

[burnt inlet]

is uplink always gonna spawn enemies?

[minor fractal]

No, but you should always assume so

There's only one example I can think of

[past mesa]

I can’t think of it

Off the top of my head

R7c3?

[minor fractal]

ye

[burnt inlet]

so you mean to tell me, that i just completed the last uplink mission (r2b whatever the uplink was) after being (ever so slightly) stuck, which i ran out of ammo on my succesfull playthrough, that im gonna do that three more times (r2c1)

[jagged shore]

it still makes you think it does though no?

[burnt inlet]

nvm i one waved the first uplink this is ez

[burnt inlet]

this might sound dumb but can you reload the mine gun with a mine you just find in the level?

[jagged shore]

no

[civic wave]

further to that, consumable tripmines also deal less damage than those from the mine deployer tool (though the difference isn't so significant that it'll matter in most cases)

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

from how far away can i tell the bots to pick up their sentry and them doing it?

[tardy ingot]

Pretty much anywhere

[burnt inlet]

when do they say "cant do that"? i just got that voiceline

[tardy ingot]

Tbf in a way that behaves completely different from other uplinks anyway

In wave size, spawn position and not having an error upon objective completion (main)

R8B3 doesnt have spawn rule either but it fits the other points

[past mesa]

And it was the curropted uplinks

for overload

[minor fractal]

^

[tardy ingot]

Hm?

[errant dome]

is that even intended btw

[tardy ingot]

The corrupted uplinks dont start an error no?
They just spawn a wave of chargers once?

[errant dome]

smthin like that

[errant dome]

this was the og question i think this is the only uplink that only spawns a wave once or twice

[tardy ingot]

well I saw this question as „do they always start an error/enemies once it completes“

The answers would boil down to

• if it finishes the main objective (so if theres multiple its the last one) with the r7c3 and r8b3 exceptions
• in some cases on optionals (r5b2 sec for example)
• double uplinks do it too if main objective

[past mesa]

After the uplink is done they spawn chargers

[errant dome]

i read as when the uplink is going

[minor fractal]

They start an error on a 2min delay

[tardy ingot]

There that instant charger wave yea

but ive not seen chargers as an error?

[minor fractal]

There is a charger error

[past mesa]

You can cancel it

By accident if I remember

[minor fractal]

I don't think you can cancel it?

You can cancel everything else

[errant dome]

its after the 2nd uplink i believe? so i dont see how you'd be able 2 cancel it

honestly not sure my experience with r7c3 has been a rather buggy experience for the most part xd, not even sure whats intended or not

[minor fractal]

It would have been able to spawn in 100% fairly sure, so you can check that vod

[minor fractal]

If you understand what's happening, it makes more sense. I think the global uplink cancel is def not intended, tho.

[errant dome]

probably, tbf most of my playtime on r7c3 was back when my knowledge on the game was not alot (it also didnt help that a few times it was with people using cheat mods so i wasnt sure if stuff was caused by their mods or it was vanilla)

[tardy ingot]

Hah! Nice try ray

Im (for now) ignoring that runs existence for verifying
Uuuh, so tru can learn with it surely

[past mesa]

Ray we should splice some 100% together

So Eva has to find them and reject them

[tardy ingot]

it would get a ban after the first one
altho I will delegate stuff to tru (if hes actually active)

cuz im not gonna solo verify 100% full game during my bachelor thesis work

[past mesa]

Lucky for you I am being /s

For serious

[ocean spindle]

garfield are u /srs or /hehim!!!

[tardy ingot]

110% /s

[ornate cape]

hellooo

whats the best special weapon for general use? I know weapons has to be varied depending on the rundown, but whats the best special weapon for medium range

[errant dome]

hel gun/hel rifle

[errant dome]

also weapon rankings dont change that much per rundown

[grizzled patrol]

Short rifle

[errant dome]

i'll never understand why people like 2 gaslight people asking genuine questions

[ornate cape]

oh is it? I thought they do, but in general for medium range hel gun/hel rifle would be best?

[errant dome]

There are some changes but for the most part the strong weapons are so strong they work into pretty much anything, but ya in general hel gun/hel rifle for medium range, burst cannon prolly as well but that one has a significantly higher skill floor and ceiling to make full use of in most situations. The best weapon overall is considered scattergun but its more of a close range weapon (tho its dmg is so high that it can still kill stuff from decently far away)

[tiny wyvern]

While the general best weapons are either scaatter, hel rifle and hel gun, the meta changes according to the level

Scatter is mega busted to the point where you can bring it to most anything with great effect

Hel rifle needs pen to compensate for ammo efficiency, even if it's just two or three
And hel gun needs precision or else the ttk might catch you off guard

[errant dome]

killing 1 enemy per hel rifle shot is still more amno efficient than most specials

[frail heart]

^

[tiny wyvern]

Does that still hold against bigs?

Just curious

[prime musk]

yes

most specials suck into bigs

[tiny wyvern]

Huh
I forgot how good hel weapons are I suppose

Forget about what I said then

[ornate cape]

ooh I see, thank you for explaining!!

[crystal blaze]

Scattergun my beloved

[burnt inlet]

should i run cfoam mines on r2c2? (am solo with bots)

[crystal blaze]

I wouldn’t recommend it since you need to be on the terminals and you can’t perma-foam the doors

[tardy ingot]

?

[burnt inlet]

i did r2c1 with foam

[crystal blaze]

That’s the uplink level no?

[tardy ingot]

no

...

[crystal blaze]

IT ISN’T???

[burnt inlet]

i edited the question mightve been why

[crystal blaze]

I’m trash

Ignore me

[prime musk]

mines are good on r2c2. but with bots it will be more difficult to utilise since bots placing mines is slow

[burnt inlet]

r2c1 is which i originally had it as

[crystal blaze]

OH, I’M SLIGHTLY LESS TRASH

[burnt inlet]

if i run mines i run foam rite?

[civic wave]

don't have to

[prime musk]

don\t have to but if you run foam, you should be carrying it

[civic wave]

mines 2 sentries is just as valid and in many cases stronger

[burnt inlet]

i do cope with sentries icl

[crystal blaze]

cough R4E1 cough

[crystal blaze]

The 4 sentry cope

[burnt inlet]

3 sentry*

[civic wave]

2 sentries is so boring though, much nicer to have 2 bios

[burnt inlet]

have to have a bio on these levels

[prime musk]

what is the purpose of second sentry in r4e1

[crystal blaze]

That’s cool and all, my squad is simply too unskilled

[crystal blaze]

Literally just extra firepower

[civic wave]

2nd code searcher holds it for no reason and never places it

[crystal blaze]

I’d imagine if you’re completing the level for the first time that 6th wave gets hairy