gtfo-related-questions

[prime musk]

im not doing shadow zones + double boss fight solo just for a main only run

[errant dome]

i dont think weeks is enough

ngl

[fathom ice]

why would u want a 5 hour long kite sim

[prime musk]

sky

you kite the surge and the class 6 at the end

that's literally all the kiting

[tardy ingot]

Because clearly thats a true skilled experience

[fathom ice]

okay what about no cheese sec

[prime musk]

it's like, less than 40 minutes of kiting total in the entire run

[fathom ice]

did u get past first part

i mean tank error

[prime musk]

i have it theorycrafted and have done testing

jadiepop did it with a very similar strategy to what my plan is

[frail heart]

win

[prime musk]

(which again, only kites the surge)

tbh i think the surge is doable without kiting and i will test further on that

[fathom ice]

jade used frame limiter

[prime musk]

not for error

[fathom ice]

jade played more solo than my playtime zed

[prime musk]

im aware jadie is good

the strats aren't very difficult for error section, just somewhat rng dependent

[fathom ice]

idk if u doorbug it's lame

so just don't do it

[hardy grotto]

All these strats for sec are cringe

[fathom ice]

ye

[hardy grotto]

The strat that ppl theorised was like

Giant capping from bulkhead key zone or smth

[prime musk]

there is no non cringe secondary solo strat so if it's going to be cringe anyways im taking the least painful option

[hardy grotto]

And getting them all to use their scream

so you’re never at risk of waking moms

But it’s still fucked

[fathom ice]

in ideal world u just kill 4 moms

[hardy grotto]

yeah good luck

[fathom ice]

and they're like at the opposite corners of the room

yeah exactly

[hardy grotto]

Ok but why not just do main only

[prime musk]

because it's harder (genuinely)

[fathom ice]

ookay

[hardy grotto]

you win those

[fathom ice]

so reactor is free ur saying

[prime musk]

i mean yeah pmuch

[fathom ice]

main is literally

stealth

[errant dome]

if u doorbug abuse it is xd

[fathom ice]

then class 6

then boss fight

[prime musk]

secondary gives res + cfoam trip

the cfoam trips are huge

and the ammo and meds is really nice for just shooting shadow zones

[hardy grotto]

idk if I just value my time more but the idea of doing sec solo makes me want to uninstall this game and never look back

[fathom ice]

LMAO

[fathom ice]

have u thought of stealthing

it makes u kill like

0 enemies

if ure playing for a clear

[prime musk]

no because you pretty much need to kite tank + pmom + class 6 through the shadow zones

you have to clear the path

[hardy grotto]

And that’s coming from someone who ran r3d1 for like 10 hours a day the last few days

[fathom ice]

just bait melee tank kek

[hardy grotto]

Honestly yeah

[fathom ice]

like u could figure smth out

[hardy grotto]

I thought about doing a main only clear where I do that

[fathom ice]

but that's fastest way

and u don't need to think about pmom

[prime musk]

and get hit by random fucking pmom birth snipe crossmap and die after 2 hours no thanks

[fathom ice]

u just

kill birth

anywhere

[hardy grotto]

you can play pillars and you’ll have relatively decent cover

[prime musk]

with live tank not really happening in those tiles

[hardy grotto]

the only scary part is if she pushes up top

[fathom ice]

that's fucked

[hardy grotto]

It happened to me and bread I think

Or it happened to me and someone

idr honestly

[fathom ice]

wait u can just

kill tank on screams

it's like what 2 minutes

[prime musk]

bottom line i just don't think you have both the space and the resources to fight pmom + tank without either taking supply boosters or doing sec

[fathom ice]

maybe more if pmom screams instead

[hardy grotto]

the other runs ran sniper yea?

[fathom ice]

if ur kiting sirge

surge*

[prime musk]

yes, and supply efficiency

[fathom ice]

u have like a spare 6 uses of ammo

and a lot of meds

[hardy grotto]

well we have scatter

and sawed off

[fathom ice]

and doors

[hardy grotto]

My hunch is it’s doable

my expert opinion if you will

The question is does anyone want to

[prime musk]

that's fair

[hardy grotto]

and my answer is nah I’m good

solo is boring

[prime musk]

idk even if boss fight is doable it leaves extract big chargers

[hardy grotto]

hard to say

[fathom ice]

worst case u just go long ig

even tho it's scary

u shouldn't be out of ammo i feel like

[hardy grotto]

I haven’t watched the solo runs so I don’t know how tight their ammo was with provisions

[prime musk]

if you're going long you need to have cleared out shadow zones, and main only without supply boosters you just don't have the ammo

[hardy grotto]

but assuming ammo isn’t a problem

[fathom ice]

not that

long

[hardy grotto]

you can sit at the very back of scan and stagger tongues then
scatter them

Idk why there’s

You know whatever

but I’d have to see how tight sniper was with prov

Cause if it’s actually tight still

Then it’s a prov angle

[fathom ice]

honestly soloing r4e1 is just bad

like if u have that much time to spare should've played samdown !!

or idk anything fun

[prime musk]

samdown doesn't interest me all that much right now
weapons just seem scuffed to me

[fathom ice]

like what

[prime musk]

like all of them

[frail heart]

still better than vanilla

[hardy grotto]

Clearly it’s a chaddown angle then

[frail heart]

TRUE

[fathom ice]

TRUE

maybe I shouldn't have ghosted his r4e1 offer

[prime musk]

team if rundowns are named like [creatorname]down why isn't it 10cdown

[hardy grotto]

Cause run made it not 10cc

Clearly

[fathom ice]

we should've got 10 rundowns

cuz 10cc

[prime musk]

who is run and how do i sue them for lost wages due to mental incapacitation

[native sun]

You can also giant cap with giants who have all already screamed

[hardy grotto]

I said this

[errant dome]

admitting to ghosting smh

[native sun]

My b, I'm skimming

[fathom ice]

listen

they were making fun out of me

for like 6 hours

during r3d1 speeds

i was trying my best !!

[errant dome]

i still cant believe you stayed up for 30 hours for that

shouldve gotten sleep then you wouldve won

smh

[fathom ice]

I thought it'll be fun

ended up getting bullied

[frail heart]

kiting for 30 mins only for one giant to not have screamed

[fathom ice]

LMAO

[hardy grotto]

this is why you label your giants by breaking a different limb on each of them

[fathom ice]

ah yes giant left leg break 4

[errant dome]

actually thats a good point, there isnt any way to tell if one screamed already is there

[fathom ice]

nah

[errant dome]

well not like i intended on doing so anyways but now i extra dont wanna do that xd

[prime musk]

team given the choice between the strats "cringe scuffed and annoyinig af" and "cringe" ill take cringe every day

[hardy grotto]

I take none of them cause I don’t wanna do it

[prime musk]

see those are the words of a recovering gtfo player

im still in the "oh god it's getting worse" phase of playing gtfo

[hardy grotto]

am I recovering

I just played the same level for a week straight

[prime musk]

small setback

[hardy grotto]

very minor

[native sun]

You wake them one by one after having kited the rest far enough that you're guaranteed to get scream

[hardy grotto]

My idea is better

[native sun]

Alternatively you just wake them all and sit in a stuck spot for 6 hours

"No cheese!!"

[hardy grotto]

Go sleep and wake up and continue it

Ok it’d be really fucking funny if you slept for like 7 hours

[fathom ice]

minmaxxing

[hardy grotto]

Come back

And one still hasn’t screamed and it kills your run

[fathom ice]

LMAO

[prime musk]

and then die to moms waking due to an before this unknown quirk of enemy scream priority

[native sun]

Also @prime musk afaik pmom will always birth before screaming.
(Assuming birth LoS, distance, cooldown etc allow it)

Attacks have higher prio than screaming.

[grizzled sandal]

run a bunch instances of gtfo so you have multiple attempts after waiting for 10 hours

[native sun]

Surely you could write a macro that successfully long kites giants

[prime musk]

attacks clearly don't have higher prio always given hybrid melee bait is inconsistent and they sometimes just scream anyways, but i'll take your word for it regarding pmom

[native sun]

Because their cooldown is longer than their attack

So there's a window between attacks

And also because you might be failing the attack trigger requirements by being too far behind it

[prime musk]

makes sense ty

[native sun]

If hybrid is screaming you are messing up, it is 100% consistent

[prime musk]

??

[fathom ice]

oops

me when i spread misinfo

[native sun]

Hybrid goes punch -> barrage -> punch -> scream 100% of the time if you just stand in front of it in punch range

Cooldown is 2 seconds, their attack lasts like 1.8 or so

[hardy grotto]

Missed the occi…

[fathom ice]

LMAO

erm guys

[native sun]

The whole point of melee baiting hybrids is that you stagger to cover up the actionable window in between melees

[errant dome]

does birth count as an attack?

[native sun]

Yes

[prime musk]

i see ty

[native sun]

(That's why it requires LoS, it is reusing the same attack trigger requirements that every attack uses)

[errant dome]

i see

[native sun]

btw R8E2 kraken summoning flyers is also just a birth attack

Which is why hiding from it prevents flyer spawns

[tiny wyvern]

can you cull the birthing

[fathom ice]

finally los explanation

[prime musk]

is it specifically e2 kraken or is it all kraken

[native sun]

Afaik it should be all kraken, but I don't say all because we briefly tried it on r6d1 and had spawn anyway

But it could have just been us accidentally peeking

[errant dome]

i think the LOS is a bit more wack on the r6d1 tile

[native sun]

Never investigated it

[hardy grotto]

Gotta hide in the cave

[native sun]

Yeah idk where everyone was

[hardy grotto]

Not in the cave clearly

[fathom ice]

caveman moment

[native sun]

R8E2 kraken is super consistent for whatever reason though

[tiny wyvern]

cave strats are the best

[fathom ice]

tbf it is a different kraken

[errant dome]

also since we're on the topic @native sun do you know where exactly is the LOS check on moms? (as in which part actually needs to see you)

[hardy grotto]

the eyes

[prime musk]

ok new suggested actual nocheese r4e1 sec solo strat
pull moms
hide behind door
place 4 mines on door
blow up moms
take dub

[fathom ice]

in ur dreams

[prime musk]

rng yes
unrealistic no

[fathom ice]

u have more than one door !!

[errant dome]

this might be stupid of me but I cant tell if your being serious or not lmao

[fathom ice]

look mommy in the eyes

[errant dome]

no

[frail heart]

I dont think this is the case

and i just double checked

[prime musk]

so true!! (im going to bed it's """"late"""" (it's midday and i have been awake all night))

[frail heart]

no LOS was given and flyers still spawn

it might seem consistent because they get stuck very easily on e2

[fathom ice]

same

[errant dome]

the concept of decent sleep is just not in your vcoab is it

[fathom ice]

yes it is indeed not in my vcoab

[grizzled sandal]

gonna take abt faiv billion attempts for all 4 to blow up

[hardy grotto]

P sure it is actually true

[frail heart]

sorry meant to reply to this message

[errant dome]

i see

[tardy ingot]

Gotta add 2 things to r8e2 kraken

It seems to have a limited amount of spawns (per tumor/phase?)

And it can spawn flyers even with no LOS (tho that might be due to reactor tileset breaking its los as it could be outside the map? Unsure

[frail heart]

Na, all krakens can spawn without LOS

Just tested on r6d1

dont see why it would be different on r8b2

From my testing though, I believe all his attacks require LOS

[tardy ingot]

This matches up with the melee only

[frail heart]

Yeah

So avoiding LOS is still the safest way to play

but yeah flyers will spawn anyway

I wonder if its set spawns

[native sun]

Afaik it is indeed the eyes on her creepy head

[native sun]

I'll check when I'm back at my PC, but there's definitely something going on to make R8E2's not spawn

[wet bear]

Because there's limit on flyers and stucked one block spawn?

[frail heart]

^

they get stuck bc you are too far away from them i believe

[wet bear]

There aren't any kraken levels where flyers stuck except e2

[frail heart]

tech if you are far enough away the r6d1 ones can

[wet bear]

Sometimes there's 2/3 flyers in one spot staring into void

[frail heart]

it can be a whole wave

[wet bear]

Ye

[frail heart]

but yeah

[wet bear]

And you just don't have flyers for whole fight

[frail heart]

i dont think they are meant to spawn where they do in e2

because sometimes they spawn in the kraken

[wet bear]

I believe it's tied to height

In kraken over kraken

[native sun]

The bigger question for me is whether or not it is behaving like birth where kraken has its own individual cap

And so you can block flyer spawns with just one spawn being stuck

[wet bear]

R6D1 has plenty big cap then, and e2 lower

[wet bear]

Nope there's still flyers coming even if there's 3 of them stuck on e2

[native sun]

Yeah, different cap would explain the very noticeable difference

[native sun]

As in one whole spawn, not one individual flyer

[frail heart]

can we check data blocks for these things?

[wet bear]

Idk

[frail heart]

id assume so

[native sun]

A lot of this stuff is not in dbs

Since it is part of the attack prefabs

[wet bear]

Time to enroll miners again?

Though we have like 4 kraken variants and 1 never used in game? Or 3 idr

[native sun]

3

[hoary mason]

r6d1, r8b-tier, r8e2?

[native sun]

Eh maybe 4 idr

[hoary mason]

Wasn't there one more or I'm misremembering

[native sun]

3 get used and they're all different

But there might be one unused idr

[wet bear]

There's not used kraken vs with like 1500 hp

[grizzled patrol]

Now that i think about it, are the Krakens in R8B2 even real or are they Just moving props?

Would make Sense If the early Design for it was to fight multiple Krakens with only 3 Tumors each

[wet bear]

Props

They don't have tumours and hp and ai and etc

[tardy ingot]

They can in r6d1

Also flyers in r8b2 only get spawned if you do the teamscan

So :)

[wet bear]

I didn't know about r6d1 because it's a rare occasion ( sorry I'm not a speedrunner that run level for 5 million restarts), second one isn't about flyers stuck it's more about them being tied to a trigger

[frail heart]

So the kraken isnt actually spawning the flyers, its the trigger that makes them spawn thats tied to the team scan

im guessing thats the case for every level

and why you have a team scan before each kraken

[wet bear]

R8e2 doesn't have it

[frail heart]

then its tied to the command

[wet bear]

It's like interpret into command

[tardy ingot]

its unique with r8b2 cuz kraken spawns on command use

[frail heart]

so does r8e2

but its like

the flyers and kraken on b2 have separate triggers

[wet bear]

Wack game

[tardy ingot]

Flyers spawn similar to the nightmares (only on scan complete)

[frail heart]

yeah thats what i mean

kraken and flyers spawn on different triggers

which technically means that the krakens arent spawning the flyers

like a mom spawns babies

[grave obsidian]

Does the kraken in R8B2 have less hp than the R6D1 one or did it just feel like that?

[frail heart]

yeah it does

considerably less

also only 3 tumors

[grave obsidian]

Yea I was so confused

Anyways thanks for the help

[dusty basalt]

Can I disable changing items with scroll wheel?

[low radish]

so that's why the R6D1 felt so unkillable

[wet bear]

Just bring actual weapons to the fight

[grave obsidian]

Yea thats what I thought too

But sniper just beat it pretty quick as well ngl

[burnt inlet]

is there a noise diff between melee vs killing with melee?

[low radish]

wdym

i mean if you do kill an enemy close to another they will wake up

or when the oher is glowing

but when you meele the air you do no sound

[wind granite]

Hi guys, my game is not opening, I'm facing an error "No internet connection available".

Although my internet is up

[low radish]

you can cancel your meele charge with right mouse button

[low radish]

you can ask in #1049599987878723635

people can offer more help there :)

[safe cradle]

You have an old game version

33805

For whatsoever reason

[grizzled patrol]

Are you using Steam in offline Mode?

[wind granite]

I don't think so

[grizzled patrol]

Any VPNs?

[safe cradle]

He has 33805

which is older than the newest and the newest is 1 year old

[wind granite]

So i just have to update it

[safe cradle]

There ain't much math to be done about it tbh

[civic wave]

did you try launching the game from the file directory? if so, that's never really worked afaik

[safe cradle]

For starters yes

[grizzled patrol]

I mean, old Versions should be still playable. Otherwise you couldnt Play OG

[wind granite]

Ok lemme try updating it

[safe cradle]

I think the stuff that does OG kinda does some rigging to make the connecting part of the game think it's up to date

There's no reason NOT to update anyway especially considering 33805 should be Alt R6 IIRC

[grizzled patrol]

It works even If you get it from Depot Downloader, so i doubt it

[civic wave]

you must launch old versions either by using a launch argument or by renaming folders, as launching it from the file directory returns connection error

this is why i asked about launching it straight from.the file directory

[burnt inlet]

meant more if i hurt an enemy

[burnt inlet]

yea quite useful cuz i do charge it quite a lot

[low radish]

not really

but if you move they will hear

[burnt inlet]

yea as in just if lets say i hs a giant with melee would it be louder than killing an enemy

[low radish]

nope

[burnt inlet]

aighty

[low radish]

it doesn't really do much sound

i mean it can wake up an enemy that's close to the one you are hitting

[civic wave]

sound wise hitting enemies doesn't make sound, but iirc hitting/killing an awake enemy has a greater chance of triggering long range aggro than hitting or killing a sleeping enemy - but ill refer everyone to the fast (d4rkeva) stealth guide to fact check that

[low radish]

that

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[civic wave]

we gotta program some more responses onto this thing

[low radish]

yeah

[burnt inlet]

huh

[low radish]

also moth

do you know about damage multipliers

[burnt inlet]

yes

back is 2x

back head is 2-5x

[low radish]

back of head is 4x

[burnt inlet]

oh

well same same kinda

[low radish]

6x

Front head is 4z

4x

[errant dome]

it depends on the enemy

[burnt inlet]

is it top back head thats 6x or sort of upper neck area?

[low radish]

some weapons will deal less damage if you do hit their head

[low radish]

occupit back

[burnt inlet]

i think i remembered that from giant

[low radish]

Yes

but it's usually like 2x/4x/6x

[errant dome]

the backhead multi is just the product of the back multi and the front head

[burnt inlet]

i can only reliably do it with melee

[low radish]

yep

[burnt inlet]

yea kinda what i thought

[low radish]

you will learn dw

[errant dome]

also this is not true, if you hit a head the dmg will never be lower than the base dmg of the gun

[burnt inlet]

as in if i sneak its easy with everything

[low radish]

wait really

[burnt inlet]

but melee is for some reason the one im best at

[errant dome]

yes

[errant dome]

giants are 3x shrug

and they're pretty common

[burnt inlet]

the gargling that sleepers do is it when their heart starts to turn redish?

[grave obsidian]

shooter x10 xd

[low radish]

WAIT REALLY

I always thought it's 2x

[errant dome]

their heads are 1.5 and their back is 2x

[burnt inlet]

giants are easy though (at least when theyre alone otherwise i do sawed off or scatter)

[grave obsidian]

look at the wiki, it tells you a lot

[low radish]

i do but i don't look at the multipliers much

[errant dome]

normal giants arent particularly threatning once u know how to deal with them yea

[low radish]

I swear i can never meele giants

i have such a skill issue

[burnt inlet]

isnt there a variant of shooters thats giants?

[wet bear]

Just melee modded big chonks

[wet bear]

Yes

[low radish]

Big shooter

and hybrid

[burnt inlet]

took me 2 hours to beat r1c2

yea i hate those

cant melee them

[errant dome]

i dont quite understand what you mean btw

[low radish]

Hybrids have more health than giants

so they are harder

[errant dome]

no

giant shooters have more hp than giants yet they are a joke

[low radish]

but you can exploit their meele to kill them

[burnt inlet]

so sleepers make sound when theyre sleeping (sounds like gargling) and when they do is it a tell for when they start being alert?

[low radish]

i'm talking about hybrids

[errant dome]

the reason hybrids are more dangerous than giants is not cause of their hp

[wet bear]

More hp = harder, the visitor and overlord in lunar eclipse

[grave obsidian]

Can you change the text language ingame somewhere?

[low radish]

oh yeah reminds me that i do need to try that

[errant dome]

yes, but you using hp as the reason as to why they are harder is straight wrong, and i gave an example as to why xdx

[low radish]

mostly for me it's the aimbot but also the hp and my skill issue of dodging

[wet bear]

You can change game language in settings

[low radish]

i mean hp isn't the only thing that makes them hard ofc, but it does contribute somewhat

[wet bear]

2 charged hammers to the occy

[low radish]

yes

when they start pulasating you just stop

when they glow you also don't want to kill enemies around them

[grave obsidian]

oh yeah I found it thanks

[low radish]

they will wake up

[burnt inlet]

i meant when they gargle/snore is it also when they start to glow

[low radish]

nope

it's after if you continue to move

[errant dome]

it is the last stage before full alert essentially yea, when their hearts beat/when they are throbbing, if you do any soft trigger action (primarily moving or flashing them with your light) they will wake up

[burnt inlet]

i dont mean the heart beat

[ocean spindle]

it helps on the scary

[low radish]

you mean their overall sounds

yes

[burnt inlet]

yes

[low radish]

They do make them when they start glowing

[errant dome]

if they are just glowing you can still move but that will put them into the next stage (the heartbeat/throbbing) which if you do move during that they will trigger

[wet bear]

Just kill them

[burnt inlet]

ik, was more if their general snore or whatever you wanna call it is when they start to glow

[errant dome]

ah, ya it is

[burnt inlet]

pacifism

[low radish]

it is possible

I think D4RKEVA did it

with a few others

[burnt inlet]

i swear i see his name everywhere

[frail heart]

YEAH IT WAS ME

[burnt inlet]

everywhere i go

i see him

[frail heart]

AND HE DELETED THE RECORDING

im still uploading my pov

[errant dome]

well its part of the reason sure, but its nowhere near any of the main reasons lol

[burnt inlet]

bru

[wet bear]

There's no pacifism word in genocide of sleepers

[low radish]

is there love at least

[wet bear]

Yes, did you know that in terms of human......

[grizzled patrol]

Drop a Tripmine under their feet

[low radish]

yes i tested it

works 100% fr

[low radish]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-scout-gtfo-gif-5579442765134412140

..

NOOO EMBED FAIL

[low radish]

HEAR ME OUT

i like them

they're silly

[wet bear]

We all love them

[low radish]

don't want to hug a striker

or worse

[wet bear]

Especially when they corner you and punch

[burnt inlet]

the dogs are the best enemies

[grizzled patrol]

But BBCs are so huggable

[wet bear]

Yes

[low radish]

not if i keep shoving that striker

[grizzled patrol]

You can probably lift them If you hug them tight enough

[low radish]

i'd love that

where are the modders

[grizzled patrol]

/Suggestion let us suplex BBCs

[low radish]

1 malefic presence and 5 BBC's

[low radish]

imagine you walk into a zone and you see your fellow prisoner wrestle a BBC

[burnt inlet]

i just forgot my flashlight was on and was wondering why two giants were throbbing when i was standing still 💀

[grizzled patrol]

A Giant Monster is throbbing?

[burnt inlet]

💀

[low radish]

📸 😏 don't mind me

Go on with your day

[burnt inlet]

my horrible gameplay being captured

swedes worst nightmare

[low radish]

i don't want your gameplay i want the giant

don't worry i will uh

cut you out from the pic

[burnt inlet]

TBF im not ur main priority it seems

[low radish]

Exactly

I want the sleepers

[burnt inlet]

hackett just stole my ammopack

[grizzled patrol]

Ah you are scandinavian. That explains the "Throbbing" part

[low radish]

But seriously i want to hug them so much

[low radish]

meet bots

[burnt inlet]

that was a while ago

[grizzled patrol]

Old Habits die hard

[burnt inlet]

if you only knew the amount of tomfoolery theyve done to me

[burnt inlet]

nowadays we sit inside and play games like hoi4 and gtfo at very slow paces

[low radish]

trust me i've seen it all i played with bots a lot in the past

[grizzled patrol]

A scattergun shot followed Up by a Tee hee

[burnt inlet]

went near a door all three of them run into the room and then out the door like 2km on the right

[burnt inlet]

well i own the scatter in the lobby so

[low radish]

I once was doing the R6D4 scan

and we c-foamed a door and bishop went through it

when the alarm started he stayed there and we just wacthed 25 sleepers kill him

[burnt inlet]

as in theyve fased thru doors

[burnt inlet]

smth i would prolly do

funni tbf

[low radish]

no no he phased throught the door and foam

[burnt inlet]

💀

[low radish]

and stayed at the other side when the alarm began

[burnt inlet]

average bishop moment

[low radish]

the R2E1 special alarm too

[burnt inlet]

anyways for aprils fools they should make bishop travel diagonally only

[burnt inlet]

havent done anything outside of r1 yet so ill be glad to see bishop ruin my run

[low radish]

make the bots fly

[low radish]

i could join and ruin it instead

[burnt inlet]

bots can only travel through walls

[tardy ingot]

Obviously

I wish I had the r1b1 fails apart from your clip tho

[civic wave]

stupid bishop now he can only attack half the tiles on the map

[burnt inlet]

i dont need 5 throwers on my team (i count as two)

[low radish]

i mean you are new so dw

you will learn with time :D

[burnt inlet]

the amount of information that has gone in (and out) of my brain the past week has been quite a lot

[low radish]

sooner or later you will remember all of it

so no stress really

[tardy ingot]

You say that

[burnt inlet]

well im running two shotguns so

[tardy ingot]

But most people dont know that much even with hundreds of hours

[low radish]

I mean i don't know that much as you can see

I do know a few things but i am still learning

even if i did play the game for quite some time

[burnt inlet]

isnt like 5k hours "required" for completing r8 or whatever the last one is

[low radish]

no

I completed it like 200hrs in

or less

[burnt inlet]

oh

well

[low radish]

I mean i didn't beat one level but still

[burnt inlet]

that gives me slight amounts of hope

[low radish]

so nto really did i complete it 😭

[civic wave]

you can probably be good enough to do everything without getting carried by 1k hours

[burnt inlet]

bru

[low radish]

Yes

[civic wave]

5k hours is more than most top players right now have

[frail heart]

our r8a1 has been beaten 😔

[burnt inlet]

also is there a way to make scouts go to a spot?

[low radish]

I mean i wouldn't say hours = better

There are other things that also make players better

[civic wave]

the 4 man? doesn't bother me because I'm not the only one losing the record there lmaoooo

[frail heart]

YEAH BUT I AM

they beat it by 8 seconds

[soft crater]

[frail heart]

impressive

[soft crater]

I thought it was gonna be closer but crazy

[safe cradle]

Even less tbh

[civic wave]

it wasn't optimised.

[minor fractal]

You will naturally wrack up hours if you are taking the game seriously, which makes it hard to have less than 1k

[frail heart]

still impressive

[safe cradle]

There's technical knowledge, then there's practical knowledge like how to kite and stuff like that, then there's getting better at aiming

[minor fractal]

But you can also wrack up hours while not really pushing yourself, which can add up to quite a lot.

[safe cradle]

Of the three the last one is the one that takes longest assuming someone's a bad shot (I know I am)

[civic wave]

not impressive, simply the natural consequence of running nowadays

[soft crater]

Me when pubs last night all pointed out "speed" runner role I have.

[safe cradle]

Technical knowledge like how occiput works or how error alarm works or stuff like that is literally a 0-1 scenario most of the times

[civic wave]

the standard of gameplay required is not that high

[minor fractal]

Imo, there will always be some need to learn how to apply game knowledge.

And that will always require some IGT

if not a lot

[frail heart]

8 second improvement is impressive

idk what to say

[civic wave]

I reckon it'll be easy to match

[soft crater]

just beat it with a faster optimized time

[frail heart]

true

[minor fractal]

If you want to use occi properly, it takes practice tbh.

To get the right angle and charge % in situations where it's benefitting stealth clear in a meaningful way

and you have stuff like 180 flicking

[civic wave]

in a low stakes stealth scenario it's pretty easy, but when you're hammering 5 strikers at once I'll get gapped by other players hard

because I have less experience there

[burnt inlet]

activating a regular security scan doesnt make sound right?

[minor fractal]

All scans are silent

[safe cradle]

I mean the original context was

good enough to do anything without being carried

[minor fractal]

Uhh, it kind of depends on what is meant.

[safe cradle]

I'm sure everyone'll agree that finishing vanilla without cheeses ain't a pushover but neither a sweatshop

[minor fractal]

Vast majority of players struggle to pull their weight, ngl.

[safe cradle]

For me finishing everything is basically getting Sum Total

[burnt inlet]

i thought this game was one of the hardest fps games?

[minor fractal]

Idk about hardest FPS game

It's the hardest horde shooter out there

[past mesa]

I feel like some other max difficulty stuff gets close to being as hard

[minor fractal]

Modded DRG is probably harder, but it's hard to say

and I think if you include modded GTFO, then GTFO goes back to winning

But max difficulty you can push to literally w/e

[past mesa]

Hazard 5 without having gear

[grizzled patrol]

What Mission was it that spawns 5 use foggies? From what i have Heard it is a obscure R2 B Tier Mission

[minor fractal]

H5 no gear is not hard, ngl

[past mesa]

Pretty nasty but I am also bad

[minor fractal]

It's just annoying

Jish, this is giant capping energy

[burnt inlet]

imo if ur gonna rank it it either has to be all mods or no mods, no mix

[past mesa]

Oh

is it

[craggy pier]

outside of sch1z0id cbt difficulties modded drg is not harder than hardest gtfo missions

i know cos i played them :'3

[minor fractal]

That's probably true

H5+ max you can just out-coordinate or speed.

Popular modded difficulties are kind of chill if everyone understands how to play

[craggy pier]

with real people builds its very hard to make drg actually difficult

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-media message more so to keep the enemies coming from one direction (@wild flare)

[craggy pier]

@civic wave :3

[minor fractal]

I think getting Sum Total w/ 3 clones requires a large amount of skill prog, tbh

and this is on top of the game just being kind of long

[past mesa]

Space marines might be as hard Ray on max difficulty but it also turns my brain to mush

[minor fractal]

Like, if you're 2-trying everything, that's still like 200h up-front

[craggy pier]

the hardest vermintide 2 content is up there

fortunes and weaves

max twitch cata

not even modded

[minor fractal]

Tbh I think reasonable hours for someone that skill progs extremely quickly is gonna be like 500

[past mesa]

I think if you lfg GTFO

You complete it in 80 hours

Or less

[minor fractal]

No, lol.

If you roll into carries on every level, sure

But that's at best like 50/50

[past mesa]

This is a non zero chance

[minor fractal]

Most levels, you have to carry or you eat shit

[past mesa]

I feel like

[minor fractal]

Most things are non-zero chance, Jish

[past mesa]

Significantly non zero

[minor fractal]

I don't think so

[burnt inlet]

three sentries are carrying me thru a bit (tbf im still on the easy rundown)

[minor fractal]

I think there are not that many competent LFG carries

Like, there is a lot of "filler" content you can breeze through w/ the right people

[past mesa]

What are the walls in GTFO lfg

[minor fractal]

But there is a lot of very much not filler content where you need 2-3 reasonably competent people if you struggle to pull your own weight, and a lot of the "reasonably competent people" that show up in LFGs are not hard carries, they're just solid generally and might lose on some of the hard shit.

[minor fractal]

Most of R8, R4C3, R5E1, R7E1 probably

But Jish

Keep in mind that some people that LFG levels like R2D2

[burnt inlet]

is there one terminal per zone?

[minor fractal]

Are stuck there for like 30+ attempts

[past mesa]

Maybe

Sometimes no

[minor fractal]

Generally yes, but it's not a hard rule.

[burnt inlet]

aighty ty

[minor fractal]

And R2D2 is not a hard level

You just need 1 very strong or 2 fairly decent players

But people struggle to find that in LFG

You're experiencing sample bias rn

Because you are in all of the R2D2s you've ever pubbed

[livid stone]

fun level to parkour in

[burnt inlet]

if i do a back head spear melee on a giant can the bots one tap it with bc's or br's?

[safe cradle]

More or less, I think 4 people that are already good at fps and 1-want to learn 2-learn the right things, are going to take at most 500 hours to get Sum Total, yeah.

[burnt inlet]

reactors dont spawn unlimited enemies like alarms do right?

[safe cradle]

They have set spawns but if they go higher than the spawn cap they queue until the slots are free

So you want to kill enemies as fast as you can so you dont get late spawns

[burnt inlet]

im guessing i should kill all enemies before inputing the verify thingy

[safe cradle]

You CAN stall the input verify until like t-3 or something like that

putting the code ASAP is just detrimental unless you want to do the map as fast as you can I guess

[crystal blaze]

R4E1

But yeah, what the FUCK was C3 all about?

[minor fractal]

I think "at most" is entirely mistaken, though. It seems like it would be "at least" given that GTFO makes unique demands as a horde shooter.

[low radish]

R5C1 respawn room

[low radish]

Generator with class IV, spitters everywhere

level is covered in fog

giants in the fog

[burnt inlet]

yea cuz i remember once i inputted the verify code too early and died cuz of it (r1c1), also thought r1d1 was gonna be the same thing

[low radish]

Also overload is an HSU spawning chargers every 30 seconds or so

[crystal blaze]

I think the charger sustained alarm is also a pretty bad choke point

Because there’s no easy doors to block

[low radish]

Yes

You are right

[low radish]

nope it's different

similiar but not the same

[burnt inlet]

yea realized that when i was running to my sentries and saw "scan"

[low radish]

The objective is also similiar

that's what i meant

[crystal blaze]

But I think R5C1’s difficulty is pretty much mitigated if you learn to SHUT THE FUCK UP in the beginning and run a scatter

[low radish]

later in the game you will have a lot of levels that have scans before reactors

Actually all of them from now on

if i'm not mistaken

[burnt inlet]

yea, i thought i wouldve needed to input verification codes like on r1c1

[low radish]

There are a few where you have to make a marathon to the reactor

[burnt inlet]

but finally done with r1 (yippie)

[low radish]

this is impossible for pubs

[low radish]

nice!

[burnt inlet]

thats gonna be fun with bots (if its like r1c1 where you have to loot and put in the code)

[low radish]

Goodluck with R2 it will show you a lot more

[crystal blaze]

Real

[wild flare]

bruh

[low radish]

you will see how hard it will be from now on in the next reactor

[burnt inlet]

well i wasnt expecting invisible enemies already

[low radish]

It only gets worse

[burnt inlet]

unfortunate

[low radish]

the next reactor is the longest in game

[wild flare]

next reactor will crush you with bots

[low radish]

so have fun

[burnt inlet]

cant wait to spend 1 week on 1 reactor alone

[low radish]

Yes

If you need help with it i could join or others could

[wild flare]

speaking from experience xd

[low radish]

also darksaid while you're here

[burnt inlet]

bru 😭

[low radish]

what levels did you not complete in this game

with bots

[low radish]

10 long and hard waves

also marathons

[burnt inlet]

as in if im hardstuck with bots i might consider it

[civic wave]

omg hiii

[low radish]

Also because it's the longest doesn't mean it's the hardest

[low radish]

I can always join if you need someone

just ping or dm me

[burnt inlet]

also think i got a guy to play with me, wouldnt surprise me if the combo of us would be worse than bots

[burnt inlet]

will keep in mind if i remember your name (think i will)

[low radish]

you can always try and get more expirience that way

[low radish]

you can also just friend me

[burnt inlet]

fair enough

[low radish]

ye

Also how is the game so far?

[burnt inlet]

fun

its the second "horror" game that ive been able to play

and its quite addicting

[low radish]

Another GTFO addict raised

[burnt inlet]

💀

[low radish]

My bingo card is getting better and better!

[hardy grotto]

I forgot this game has the horror tag

Ngl

[burnt inlet]

nasa is gonna accept you now you got that on ur resume

[low radish]

wdym it's so scary when you see a giant behind a corner

while you're running around with a knife

forgetting about the sneak part of this game

[wild flare]

this is the list:

r1c1 ( i was new and did it in pub, i will re-do it with bots tho )
r2d2 ( gave up, but again, i had not enough experience and bad weapon choices, i will re-do it also )
r3a3 ( same as r1c1 )
r4e1 ( near impossible with bots, i will not try to re-do it )
r7e1 ( same as r4e1 but even worse, probably worst lvl to do with bots )

rn i am at r8e1, so idk about second half of r8, but yeah, that is the list

[low radish]

and then you die

[burnt inlet]

didnt even look at it, only game ive been able to play has been until dawn but its kind of a movie more than a game so wasnt that bad

[low radish]

R8E2 will be difficult

i think the biggest issue is reactor and that one scan

[burnt inlet]

the amount of times ive just stopped caring about sneaking and just walked and hit sleepers is measurable

[low radish]

Also i can imagine R4E1 is impossible with bots or near impossible

[low radish]

same

[wild flare]

yeah, tank is worst bot enemy and tank error... rip

[low radish]

Also imagine R8D2 secondary

[burnt inlet]

the instagram reels brain

[low radish]

From the beginning of the expedition there will be an error alarm spawning a t-

wait i wonder

why is R7E1 so hard

is it because of friend

[wild flare]

yes

[craggy pier]

yeah ur friend is bad

[wild flare]

but i can imagine reactor is hard also

[low radish]

isn't it possible to kite him oh wait the alarm

[wild flare]

tight on time, respawn zones

[low radish]

you can't just leave the room

[wild flare]

also 2 tanks

lvl designed against bot clear xd

[low radish]

actually there's more

[wild flare]

i mean on reactor alone

[low radish]

Last wave of reactor oh

I understand

i thought yu meant that blood door

[wild flare]

i tried r7e1 few times

but i cannot event clear first alarm

no chances

[low radish]

You know what concerns me

R8A2 sec

[wild flare]

MAYBE if i sweat my balls of i can do some progress on r4e1

but on r7e1 it is near impossible

[low radish]

Yeah friend is uh

[wild flare]

when you just straight up die on first alarm

[low radish]

hard with bots

sicne you need to co-ordinate to actually get him away

wait what if you let the bots get downed

and revive them for team scans

or leave 1 bot alive

to like minimize the amount of players friend will follow

It might not be possible that way but might be more managable

i mean if you have 3 sentries they should keep enemies away for long enough

[tardy ingot]

this is not an issue (but no spoilers)

[low radish]

(should is the key word)

[wild flare]

i doubt it will work

[low radish]

I see

wouldn't terminal levels be hard too

[tardy ingot]

I will give darksaid advice should they struggle

but R8D2 is pretty free with bots

if you know how

[low radish]

wait R8C1...

[wild flare]

i even tried fasterbotcheese mod on r7e1 and actually cleared first alarm... to instantly die on next room xd

[low radish]

Ah yes GTFO

Wait is R8C1 possible solo

you need to cheese right

[tardy ingot]

yes

[wild flare]

i did it so

possible

[low radish]

because with bots it's the same thay can;t terminal command

Ah i see

[wild flare]

well, i used cheese

[low radish]

i suppose it depends on luck too

[wild flare]

i tried to do this legit

[low radish]

with the terminals

[wild flare]

but you know what? rerolling for rng is not fun

so i kicked bots and used cheese spot

[low radish]

i mean what are even the chances for the 3? i think it was 3 terminals to be in the same room as you and close

i did have one attempt with 4 man where it happened twice

[wild flare]

this lvl have some stupid mechanic

[low radish]

but the chances aren't that favorable

[wild flare]

where it choose 1 terminal per zone

so you always have 25% chance

and you need to do it 3 times

[low radish]

wait so it picks one terminal in the entire zone

[wild flare]

you can survive 2 extra waves from my experience, if you fail timed sequence

yes

[low radish]

and then it resets and picks again

[low radish]

the 3rd one is the worst

isn't it like a big boi

wait what was the 3rd punishment wave

first was strikers right

[wild flare]

there are no punishemnt waves

[low radish]

i mean as in if you fail sequence

[wild flare]

enemies just will not stop spawning until you succsesfully finish time sequence

[low radish]

wait but doesn't it also spawn bonus enemies if you fail the sequence

[wild flare]

so first wave is endless wave of giants

[low radish]

Giant alarm real

[wild flare]

second wave will spawn extra snatcher in the end

[low radish]

and third a tank

[wild flare]

third wave probably spawn extra tank in the end

not sure about it

[low radish]

OH WAIT so that's why more of them spawn when you fail

[wild flare]

punishment waves are on r7d1

[low radish]

because the wave goes over and over

[wild flare]

yeah

which sucks

[low radish]

i am sure it does i remember going 1 v 1 on it in overload

[wild flare]

on r7d1 you can survive wave and have some time to restock

[low radish]

in that really small room

[low radish]

This is R8 everything is miserable

[wild flare]

well, first part of r8 was chill tbh, except r8c1 and r8e1

i am still on r8e1, but with Goat advice from yesterday i will cheese it xd

[low radish]

goodluck!

I think R8B4 should be easier with bots

[wild flare]

where you activate sec scan, but not finish it, then go to main

[low radish]

because they don't get infected

and you get like no disinfection

[low radish]

there is no ||station|| in it

but i might be mistaken

but i don't remember a ||station||

I do remember the ||25 circles reactor shutdown though||

imagine if it would all be ||normal scans and not cluster||

p a i n

[wild flare]

spoilers 🔨

[low radish]

sighs and begins to mark it

[wild flare]

just realized, that all of those lvls have reactors and i hate reactors, xd

[low radish]

i think i'm seeing a pattern here

what about R5D2

[wild flare]

one of the most painful lvls i did

i was stuck on it for a week iirc

[low radish]

well at least you're after it

R4D1 too and R5B2 overload

[wild flare]

this particular reactor was horrible

[low radish]

ths short wave

[wild flare]

r5b2 havent reactor

[low radish]

oh wait B1

[wild flare]

actually it was one of the few reactors i liked

[low radish]

for me it's a nightmare

i cannot dodge hybrids

it's a skill issue i have

[wild flare]

no codehunting, ton of resources

sniper turrets carried

enough tool refills for whole reactor

r4d1 was interesting too

[low radish]

meawnwhile R4E1

[wild flare]

r4e1 was fun

[low radish]

you want a code? hahahahaha here's the room

[wild flare]

when i did it through lfg

[low radish]

i mean it's always fun in lfg

but bots-

[wild flare]

naah, not r4e1

[low radish]

i had my friend somehow c-foam with one tripmine like 3 ||mothers|| in it

by luck

or it was 2 don't remember

[crystal blaze]

So this is how you clear mother room in R4E1

[ornate cape]

whats the suggested loadout for r2c2? We’ve been doing that stage for almost god knows how many times 😂

[hoary mason]

Honestly in terms of guns almost anything, tool is bio, 2 sentries and mines.

[tardy ingot]

bio, mines are the 2 "mandatory" things

then a sentry and whatever (either other sentry or foam, depending on your strat for first alarm)

1 giant killing gun (aka scattergun) can help a lot for blood door hybrids and the gaints

other than that its rly just how you play it

[hoary mason]

If you want specific guns, then something that you can run and gun with in terms of guns(sawed-off/slug shotty/hel revo and specials might be hel rifle/hel gun/precision rifle and how Eva suggested some giant killing)

[tardy ingot]

precision rifle certainly is a recommendation for r2c2 lol

[hoary mason]

Still can do some job

[tardy ingot]

yes

but its neither run n gun nor very valuable

for the level

[hoary mason]

It just has decent ammo pool for special

[tardy ingot]

its ok

[hoary mason]

vs it's damage

[tardy ingot]

you are required to headshot to get that value

but at that point revo is better

[hoary mason]

and most of enemies on level are just regular sleepers.

Oh fair forgor about special revo

[tardy ingot]

also just high cal

[hoary mason]

hical/revo

They dissapeared from my brain for a solid moment

[ornate cape]

aha okay, so anything run and gun

[hoary mason]

When I was trying to come up with semi-automatic guns.

[ornate cape]

but how does the mine usually come into play? sorry, we’ve been running 3 sentries + bio on all maps so I dont really know how to play with mines

[tardy ingot]

put mine on door -> door break -> mine go boom

same for blood doors

horizontal around shin height

[hoary mason]

Close door - place mine, enemies stack up on other side of the door, they break door -> boom, no wave.

And you can also use mine on blood doors.

Same concept

[ornate cape]

ohh okay, got it, will try on our next run

thank you so much!!

[tardy ingot]

also hopefully you arent using shotgun sentry or hel auto sentry

[ornate cape]

our runs have always been 2 bursts 1 sniper 1 bio, with the sniper shifting to burst if needed 😅

[tardy ingot]

mines gain a lot of value once you leave rundown 1

R2 has a lot more levels where mines and foam can completely shut out alarms and delete massive waves (or simply blood doors)

[ornate cape]

Ooh I see, I only got the chance to use cfoam to clear out r2c1 but never used mine or anything else other than burst sentries

[tardy ingot]

(you dont rly use foam without mines pretty much)

[grave obsidian]

What strategy or loadout would you recommend for R2D1? I have been struggeling a lot with friends

[safe cradle]

Bio 2 sentries and mines or 1-1-1-1

At start check if 611 or 613 has cell

If 611 has it then the other one doesn't

If it's 613 they only come from direction of generator cluster for alarm

ALWAYS go for res zone since it needs 1 cell but gives 1 cell back

[tardy ingot]

bio, mines, 2 sentries (likely burst)
pull (and then either shoot or melee) rooms with enemies in fog (which you "have" to clear), dont use foggies to stealth
use foggies to quickly traverse cleared rooms and safe them for alarms

1st alarm could use sentries, but dont have to
2nd alarm have sentry on the stair case close to 1st alarm.
3rd alarm is also rly just putting down both sentries together in a decent spot

after getting alarm cell you can plug it into the ressource zone gen (you get a cell back and lots of res)
do both blood doors (get the key)
then get the cell from the key door up north and you are done after gen cluster alarm

better to shoot a scout and fight a room than trigger a scout and the room

[safe cradle]

You can always skip 1 zone between Dis station key zone, 611, 613, and the two blood doors

I usually skip Dis station key zone

Putting cells in lowers fog

So try to do zones that ARE NOT fully fogged yet and if you need to you can commit 1-2 people to either stealth those, if you get lucky the cells are in not fucked up places and it's very easy.

Putting last cell starts alarm, which also makes fog go up UNTIL you finish it, so keep some foggies for the last alarm

Extraction scan is longish so dont fuck around while you extract

[grave obsidian]

Ok thank you guys for the tips.

[grave obsidian]

How long is the affected range of the "SR Sentry Damage" Booster?

[knotty relic]

If you do zones/cells in correct order can’t you eliminate most of the fog?

Oh never mind my bad. You explained the exact thing I was thinking about already.

[soft crater]

Put your mouse over the text and it should tell you

[ornate cape]

Sorry to ask again, but is there like a summary of what to do first in r2c2

[tiny wyvern]

Which part are you finding trouble with?

You're supposed to go through the only door you can and find a cell and fog turbine for the fog door

(also this is the brief stretch of missions that will have puzzle elements in them, they'll get dropped again soon)

[ornate cape]

which is door 119 right? is there a way to find all the id's on the first terminal? because we find ourselves running around in circles looking for them in lockers

[tiny wyvern]

List the entire zone and you'll find that the first door you can open has ABSOLUTELY NO IDS

Make a habit of doing that, the term is right next to the door

Wait a minute how do you even get into 119 at the start

The first one you go in is 113

119 needs a color key

That you get from somewhere else

[ornate cape]

thats what I mean, we were really all over the place for the round. even after few runs still all over.
What we had done is trigger the objective to get the key card for 119, which makes us run all the way to 115 but to get to 115 we had to go somewhere again to find a cell to power up the generator. So along the way we kinda missed the initial objective of looking for personal id's

[tiny wyvern]

So what part are you confused about?

The order is after you get the cell for the door you do that side
Clear All the doors there, you don't have enough IDs if you dont
Then get the IDs in the fog area on your way back to the 119 door
Then grab the remaining IDs

If it still isn't enough wiki/ scaler vid should explain things better

[[ALT://R2C2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/ALT://R2C2

[ornate cape]

ooh oki! thank you!

[tardy ingot]

You are not „triggering“ a objective

You just found a door that needs a key

Theres 4 zones with IDs in R2C2.
114 (mandatory), 118, 119 and 116 (sucks)

118 doesnt need anything to open
119 needs a key from 115
116 needs a cell from 117

At the start of the level (tho id recommend the terminal right after the sec door in 113) you can have 1 person go on a terminal and just list where the ids are

Figure out where to go zone wise. Clear out everything, then grab the ids

The error can easily be melee killed if you rly feel like you dont have good ammo conservation

[grave obsidian]

Thats what I thought, but it just tells you it has "increased damage in short range"

[tiny wyvern]

[[Boosters]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Boosters

[tiny wyvern]

I wonder who made this wiki bot

[grave obsidian]

"Sentry guns placed by Subject will deal more damage at short range." on the wiki xD

[tiny wyvern]

have you tried scrolling down to the conditions section?

Subject must be within 5 meters of an enemy for booster to be active.

[grave obsidian]

But thats the distance of the player to enemys, also booster isnt equal to condition

[tiny wyvern]

Weren't they the same?
@native sun Would you happen to know?

[grave obsidian]

I mean it could be, but it doesnt say it anywhere

[tiny wyvern]

Why do I recall someone telling me the damage increase only happens when you stand close to the sentry?
...I need to go to bed

[tardy ingot]

@grave obsidian the easiest thing would be to

Not use boosters

dont have to have a headache about what X booster actually does and how Y works

tho tbf close range sentry booster specifically is… just not rly worth it

[grave obsidian]

Ok honestly I just wanted to know if it was worth it, so that answers my question

Thanks

[native sun]

Apparently the threshold range is 0m for all sentries...??

As in, enemies have to be closer than 0m...

I assume that is incorrect

[grave obsidian]

Interesting, 0m sounds like a good perk

But for real I have not really used it at all so idk

[native sun]

idk if anyone has ever actually tested if those boosters are functional

um

[tiny wyvern]

Would jish know

[native sun]

no

[tiny wyvern]

who tf would actually know this

[native sun]

Probably no one

I will test, but if I don't have any sentry boosters

I have no sentry boosters

[grave obsidian]

I would have some, but I dont know a good way to test it

I would rather leave it to you pros

[native sun]

Yeah not expecting you to

[native sun]

Okay, short range boosters definitely do something

But I have no idea what range

[tardy ingot]

That would very gtfo of the booster

[past mesa]

Is tru doesn’t know

There is little chance I know

Tru actually looks up info

[tardy ingot]

we simply dont use boosters

so theres a low chance people checked

[minor fractal]

Of the boosters strong enough to run, SR damage also isn't one of them (or at least it's very niche compared to obviously strong picks)

It would be a way to make HEL Auto OP maybe, I'd have to see what you can get it to