gtfo-related-questions

[frail heart]

ss?

cause those zones have res

[burnt inlet]

yea i looted 92 and i think i only started at 93

[civic wave]

or they already picked up all those resources

or the zone in question does not spawn anything under those search parameters

[frail heart]

you would have picked everything up

[burnt inlet]

aight, is all of 93 available before a security scan thingy?

[frail heart]

uhh idk what you mean but im gonna say yes

[burnt inlet]

cuz i only went until 93B

[tiny wyvern]

what level

[burnt inlet]

r1c2

[hoary mason]

[frail heart]

there are only 2 rooms

[tiny wyvern]

huh a pm sleeper

[frail heart]

if you type the list u e_93 and nothing shows up then you got everything

goes for other zones as well

[burnt inlet]

yea it was just if i wrote it wrong

guess i didnt

[tiny wyvern]

If you are unsure list the entire zone_93
If you think you're bugged and term's not showing you resources ask someone else to do it for you

[burnt inlet]

im playing with bots 😭

[tiny wyvern]

(I don't know why people sometimes say they can't find resources or smth but having another person do it seems to be fine)

[burnt inlet]

also i did and it showed nothing but i think i looted the entire thingy

god i dislike the slowmode for the media channel

[ocean spindle]

a space typo can do things

[burnt inlet]

if i do the scan for 92 will there spawn enemies in 92B or only 92A and to the west of me?

[frail heart]

you can post images in spoiler chat

[burnt inlet]

fair enough but i dont wanna clogg that channel up with support

and i dont think r1 is that much of a spoiler

[frail heart]

they will spawn in 92E and 91C

[frail heart]

the spoiler part is kinda useless

[burnt inlet]

i dont see 92E but not worrying about 92B is good enough for me

[frail heart]

its on the east

[burnt inlet]

long room north to south wise?

[hoary mason]

~~It's time to do competition for sunsetting spoiler chat ~~

[burnt inlet]

and also is it just me or when bots are chasing an active sleeper do the bots stop working if i move far away/diff region in a room? had the bots legit do nothing whilst i was above them

[hoary mason]

Not rly, bots are just stupid

sometimes

most of the times

[burnt inlet]

yea

bio is the only thing good about them

if i put two cfoam granades at one door will it extend the time it takes for it to breakdown?

like i put them at the same time

[civic wave]

nope, there's a limit to the amount of extra hp cfoam adds to a door
this amount can however be refreshed as the enemies start decreasing it by knocking on the door

[burnt inlet]

tyty

what is the enemy with the quite large spikes on its upper body/head called?

[frail heart]

charger

[burnt inlet]

they are larger than chargers

but i think its a type of charger

[frail heart]

uh

not in r1c2

[burnt inlet]

check media

[frail heart]

thats just a normal charger

[tardy ingot]

that is a charger

[burnt inlet]

oh

i thought the ones with the tiny spikes was a charger

[tardy ingot]

?

[digital mural]

This is like GTFO trivia

[frail heart]

they all have the same model

[digital mural]

I love it

[burnt inlet]

am i just thinking about sleepers

[digital mural]

Which sleeper

Every enemy is a sleeper

[burnt inlet]

the small ones with the mouth

[digital mural]

Strikers

[burnt inlet]

is chargers only found in and past r1c2

[digital mural]

Youll find chargers very often

[burnt inlet]

cuz i swear i thought the ones running towards you were called chargers

[digital mural]

The Big black sleeper with spikes are chargers

[burnt inlet]

also to what @tardy ingot said #gtfo-media message, i thought alarms spawned constant waves of enemies so youd want to do them asap?

[frail heart]

na

strikers

[tardy ingot]

defend generally means with tools (tho if you have multiple players having 1 defend waves can be a good strat)

[frail heart]

yeah they do

[burnt inlet]

i thought on r1c1 was a lot of chargers

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[tardy ingot]

easier to send pics of what you thought were chargers

[frail heart]

the ones that shoot a lot?

[burnt inlet]

no just the ones that run towards you to bite(?) you

the most common enemy during it

[frail heart]

they are just called strikers

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[frail heart]

the small ones that shoot are shooters

big strikers are giants

or big striker

[tiny wyvern]

Chargers are the headless spiky bois

[burnt inlet]

they annoying af

[frail heart]

Yes!

[low radish]

or frank

[frail heart]

or jugger 😈

[burnt inlet]

when i hit a giant in their head behind is it always the same direction they are going to turn?

[digital mural]

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[frail heart]

JUGGERRRRR

[burnt inlet]

cuz i swear ive only seen them turn circular anti clockwise

[safe cradle]

When enemies wake up their animation doesn't change their hitboxes

[low radish]

i think it depends from which side you hit them

[burnt inlet]

wait so their hitbox isnt where they move?

[safe cradle]

It doesn't update

[burnt inlet]

so their back is still towards me once ive hit them?

[safe cradle]

Like, you see the striker doing that animation where he turns around

But UNTIL the animation is complete, he's technically still facing the other way

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[low radish]

Yes it only updated AFTER the animation

[burnt inlet]

also this spawn rng wants me to die, theres two chargers right next to a giant

[tiny wyvern]

Just point and click with scatter

[burnt inlet]

yea forgor i brought it

[tiny wyvern]

(after the scout is ded)

[burnt inlet]

scout got taken care of like second thing i killed

aint nun better than running sawed off and scatter with bots 💀

[low radish]

how to get shot to death by a bot tutorial

[burnt inlet]

i meant i have that

[low radish]

i reclaim my words

[unique storm]

anyone know one how far someone as gotten solo in this game?

[digital mural]

Like 99% of the game

[low radish]

you can beat the entire game solo except a few levels

unless you use bugs or cheese them

[digital mural]

Some levels are impossible

[tiny wyvern]

Theroetically all are possible according to tru

[digital mural]

But even then you need hundreds of hours of practice

[low radish]

R4E1, R8E2 for example

[digital mural]

Theory is different from practice

[tiny wyvern]

Apparently they routed strats for them now

[digital mural]

Everything is possible in theory

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah I know that's why I didn't say that from the getgo

[frail heart]

you would have to game so hard and get good mom spawn rng for r4e1 solo

[safe cradle]

You all are starting with the assumption that Snow meant "solo" and not "solo with bots"

[digital mural]

Solo is solo

Not solo with bots

Sorry man

[safe cradle]

Not that it would mean that soloing with bots all the game a cakewalk but that's another story

[wet bear]

Door bug and have fun clearing reactor waves

[tiny wyvern]

Do you even need to with door bug

[digital mural]

Darksaid PTSD

[burnt inlet]

what is door bug?

[digital mural]

No

Shut

[safe cradle]

Even Darksaid "pubbed" some maps with people

[frail heart]

Nothing

A meme

[wet bear]

Yes because they will constantly spawn cos reactor waves

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[frail heart]

?

[tiny wyvern]

Wait who is darksaid

[digital mural]

Not even the choosen one can deal with the bots

[frail heart]

reactor waves get capped out

[digital mural]

@wild flare

The one and only

[safe cradle]

Charge hammer hit door fully once, open door, charge hammer, quickly close door while hitting it

[wet bear]

Bad wording, I mean they will continue to spawn all queued enemies

[safe cradle]

Do it fast enough and the door becomes an unbreakable barrier for enemies

[frail heart]

yeah

[safe cradle]

DO NOT do it in lobbies cause it's shitty to do

[frail heart]

unless you just dont kill

or you are in e2 and use tp

[safe cradle]

It's basically cheating

[tiny wyvern]

It's a really bad cheese
And most people will hate you for it

It's very effective and gross mind you

[burnt inlet]

yea i wont do it

[wet bear]

I won't hate you for it

[digital mural]

Once a door bugger always a door bugger

[tiny wyvern]

Even the people that did it when i pubbed usually asked and made sure everyone was fine with it

[digital mural]

We are racist against them

[unique storm]

if you are solo with bots then whats the best way to do a reactor level

[frail heart]

TRUE

[safe cradle]

I play with 2 guys on R7C1 someone new drops in and asks me why dont I doorbug

[wet bear]

Doorb.... Get gud

[tiny wyvern]

Learn how to kite/ find good spots

[frail heart]

dont be a pussy and shoot

[digital mural]

Tools are your best tool

[safe cradle]

hope you shoot really well

[unique storm]

k thanks

ill try

[tiny wyvern]

If you are struggling look up on yt on how people solo the reactors

[ocean spindle]

kiting and reactors dont do much and with bots should have no issue

unless ur solo

[tiny wyvern]

And attempt to replicate

[ocean spindle]

but ur not solo ur runnin 3 bots

solo strats usually dont work with 3 bots cuz it banks on u havin to revive no one

[burnt inlet]

r1c1 with bots isnt that hard, might be because you can set up BTD6 sim on it though

[ocean spindle]

r1c1 is not the only reactor level out there

[burnt inlet]

ik

[tiny wyvern]

You literally sit on a slope and shoot the horde

[low radish]

R2D2 mm

[tiny wyvern]

R2d2 is when things get really bad

[ocean spindle]

but if ur strugglin on any other reactor, then the level is just generally not feasible with bots anyway

[digital mural]

Honestly? I think asking Darksaid would be a good idea

[ocean spindle]

d2 is feasible with bots

[digital mural]

LOL

[wet bear]

I love setting up 20+ sentries so room disappears from existence

[burnt inlet]

kinda what i meant with btd6 sim

[tiny wyvern]

10 faqing waves of sit still and wait

And sometimes crave an ammo pack

[digital mural]

Longest reactor btw

:)

[tiny wyvern]

I love the ten wave reactor
I sure hope there isn't an even longer one

[ocean spindle]

:]

[wet bear]

:)

[ocean spindle]

surely

;]

[digital mural]

Sureeeeeeeely

:)

[frail heart]

what is this

[ocean spindle]

:]

[digital mural]

Red name 🤮

[wet bear]

;(

[tiny wyvern]

Between that and the R8B3 charger surge sustain
i don't know which one I don't like more

[frail heart]

just say ur bad

teehee

[digital mural]

Im bad

I did it

Now what

[burnt inlet]

why rednam bad?

[ocean spindle]

cuz bad

idk

[frail heart]

kiss

[digital mural]

🤨

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[tiny wyvern]

nah they are essentially just speedrunners
dw this is just a joke

(I hope)

It's a recent thing

[wet bear]

Gtfo elitists too high thinking of themselves
:);(

[frail heart]

whatever daddy wants, daddy gets

[burnt inlet]

i thought that was a diff role?

[tiny wyvern]

#discord-announcements message

check link

[burnt inlet]

oh ok so they are bacisly just glorified GTFO players

[wet bear]

Nah

[tiny wyvern]

They're relatively good GTFO players

In comparison to normal pubs they're essentially gods

[wet bear]

Pubs still have better strats smh

[burnt inlet]

in comparison to me they are prolly the god of gods

[tiny wyvern]

"Hey guys there's a class 12 I'm sure this is meant to be pulled"

[burnt inlet]

anyways i am slightly curious if this strat actually is good #gtfo-media message

[wet bear]

Foam the ladder

[tiny wyvern]

You usually set up all sentries towards the ladder

And yes, you can foam the ladder

[ocean spindle]

no dont fuckin foam the ladder ksmdks

[burnt inlet]

but wouldnt the enemies just run away from the ladder

[ocean spindle]

gtfo players when they try to fix their ceilings

[tiny wyvern]

No they are uniquely attracted to ladders

[ocean spindle]

pathin doesnt work so much as so

[tiny wyvern]

They will ALWAYS want to go down ladders

Even the giants

[wet bear]

They use shortest path

[burnt inlet]

i meant when they got down

[tiny wyvern]

And the ||pablo jr.s||

Cfoam stops them on the ladder

[ocean spindle]

see what happens when u do ur funni joke now we have to explain it ksmdkm

[tiny wyvern]

Giving you time to do scans

[ocean spindle]

smh

foam ladder is an exploit

[wet bear]

Just get a few big blobs and don't kill foamed and chill on scans

[tiny wyvern]

It's a strat
A PUB strat

[ocean spindle]

fish me all u want i am the fish man

[ocean spindle]

not a strat is an exploit

[burnt inlet]

im so confuzed

[wet bear]

You are a taco

[tiny wyvern]

It's also
A waste of foam

[ocean spindle]

I CAN BE A FISH TACO

[tiny wyvern]

Dw about it

[burnt inlet]

i found cfoam granades and its the only cfoam i have

[tiny wyvern]

Don't then

[wet bear]

Not a strat not an exploit but an actual strategic maneuver, read arts of war

[tiny wyvern]

You shouldn't cfoam ladders unless you know what you're doing anyways

[ocean spindle]

not a strat [...] but an actual strat

[tiny wyvern]

Just point the sentry at the foot of the ladder

[wet bear]

Always foam ladders if enemies goes that way

[burnt inlet]

WHY IS EVERYONE REACTING WITH FISH

[frail heart]

ladder foam is like level 1 cheese

[tiny wyvern]

Inside joke

[frail heart]

level 1 sigma

[tiny wyvern]

Dw about it

[wet bear]

Not tasty

[burnt inlet]

uhm

[wet bear]

[ocean spindle]

i will turn off ur heater

[burnt inlet]

mightve accidentally used the cfoam

is what it is

[wet bear]

You won't

Yes use it on ladder more

So they will be there for ages

[burnt inlet]

i didnt even use on ladder

[wet bear]

That's bad

[burnt inlet]

i used it on the floor

a million miles away from the ladder

[frail heart]

huge

itll stop the flanker

trust

[burnt inlet]

they dont flank

[hoary mason]

shame

[wet bear]

In vanilla :)

[hoary mason]

otherwise foam would work

[burnt inlet]

#gtfo-media message almost where the circle becomes arrow

[frail heart]

thats what they want you to believe

[wet bear]

In modded sleepers read an actual book of arts of war

[burnt inlet]

@tiny wyvern i used q and spammed middle to make them pick up their deployables, cfoam was top of that list

[tiny wyvern]

Solo things

Dw about it

[burnt inlet]

yep

also its sort of in between the forklifts if u know the map that well

so its not insanely bad

but yk

[tardy ingot]

why not have sentries where the enemies 100% will need to go through

[burnt inlet]

not great either

[tardy ingot]

theres 1 path (a security door) aswell as the ladder

[burnt inlet]

yea but wouldnt they run quicker than the sentries would kill?

[tardy ingot]

and how would that change down there

[burnt inlet]

cuz its running towards the sentries

more time to kill

[tardy ingot]

?

the same thing happens on the ladder or facing into the open security door

[burnt inlet]

isnt it less distance though? (also why i was sceptical with the ladder strat)

[tardy ingot]

on ladder they take their time coming down

[burnt inlet]

actually pointing towards security door is less objects in their way

[tardy ingot]

on security door you have a way better sight line

and you dont need sentries to kill the whole wave

its fine if they weaken a lot of stuff

well not rly for chargers if you were running smth like hel rifle, but for strikers def

[burnt inlet]

im running sawed off scatter

but thats a diff issue

[ocean spindle]

scattergun for a r1c2 run hum

[burnt inlet]

i mean it has saved me

2 giants next to 1 charger

2 charger next to 1 giant

average solo (with bots) moment

[ocean spindle]

i mean should be fine i just wouldve gone with sumn else

[tardy ingot]

in both those moments most guns can deal with that ngl

scatter is great, but in solo (especially for the early rundowns) you want wave clear usually

[burnt inlet]

i mean i just heard from fav strimmer that it was delete option

[ocean spindle]

in bot runs in general yes u need the heavy weapons but general heavy weapons

not just the heaviest

[burnt inlet]

rm f- (or whatever the linux command)

[ocean spindle]

even spiff massively struggled in r1c2 3 bots by usin scatter

granted it was an achievement run

but still

[hardy grotto]

that’s not a scatter issue tho

[burnt inlet]

so turns out, i was running the scan with 1 less sentry

still made it tho

[burnt inlet]

ik the sawed off is the issue

[hardy grotto]

Nah that’s fine

[burnt inlet]

did he even upload those to youtube?

[tardy ingot]

it partially is
hel rifle hard carries r1c2 no tool runs

if you do it with 3 bots

(hel gun does too)

[hardy grotto]

yeah it’s my preference too

But I think scatter can still work

[tardy ingot]

most can work

[frail heart]

its a krill issue

[tardy ingot]

but the point is that its harder

[hardy grotto]

It is a wave clear weapon after all

[tardy ingot]

and for someone new

[hardy grotto]

Ye

[burnt inlet]

woke up scout

kms

[tardy ingot]

scatter is burst wave clear not continous

this can get scary vs chargers

[burnt inlet]

uhm

turns out

dealing with a woken scout

is easier than i remembered

[frail heart]

yeah

[hardy grotto]

LOCK IN

STOP TABBING OUT

[burnt inlet]

its dead already

[frail heart]

dont think of scouts as insta wipes

[burnt inlet]

i mean i just placed down 3 sentries towards the door i just opened

and i shot one enemy

and the sentries did work

wait is the entirety of 99A cleared now?

[frail heart]

yes

[burnt inlet]

oh

W

[frail heart]

scout fully wakes the room it creams in

screams

[tardy ingot]

tbf it likely was not much inside

if its scout

99A and 98A are small rooms

[burnt inlet]

interesting choice of word

[frail heart]

gulp

[burnt inlet]

wait couldnt i just clear the next room same way then?

99B that is

well im gonna be sent back to the lobby soon

especially since im at 20%

but we schmove

[tardy ingot]

shooting? yes

but dont spam sentries for it

[burnt inlet]

why not?

[tardy ingot]

bad habit

[burnt inlet]

fair enough

[tardy ingot]

youll not learn how to deal with stuff
being carried by sentries until they suddenly dont do enough is a common issue on pubs

[burnt inlet]

ive placed the sentries as a backup, am sneaking though

[tardy ingot]

also tool spent

1 mine does the same as those sentries but far more efficient

[eternal schooner]

sorry to interrupt but am i correct in saying a scream/gunshot would wake up enemies across an arch, but an arch could count towards the 2 room enemy spawn mechanic?

[burnt inlet]

they all are on like full % and i dont run foam or mines

[tiny wyvern]

Just look at the lettering of the room
If there's a room div they have different letters

[tardy ingot]

screams dont
gunshots can (but with 20 meter less per open door/room divider)

and yes since a room divider... divides 2 rooms it acts like an open door

[eternal schooner]

i see i see thank u

[low radish]

guys me and a friend are duo-ing how are we constantly runing out of ammo?

Does it like scale with players, it shouldn't right

[burnt inlet]

Is it only deploy that I can tell the bots to do?

[low radish]

but we still keep running out

[hardy grotto]

It doesn’t scale no

[low radish]

Then how the hell

[hardy grotto]

What level are you playing

[low radish]

it's puzzling

R8C2 but we were running out on R6C1 C2 too

[hardy grotto]

Hmm

[low radish]

i mean my weapons don't have THAT much ammo so i understand myself

as i tend to hipfire

missfire*

[hardy grotto]

For the r6 levels I’m not sure tbh

[stoic musk]

And youre not skipping over any packs along the way?

[low radish]

no

[hardy grotto]

I guess what guns are you using

[low radish]

We are checking everything

[low radish]

sawed off / precision
sawedd of / revolver

[hardy grotto]

R8c2 has always felt like it’s had fairly tight ammo parts but it’s been a while since I’ve touched it

[low radish]

so yeah i don't have that much ammo

[civic wave]

tools?

[low radish]

but even when he had like Hel rifle we were still running out on R6C1/C2

[low radish]

bio, sentry

and he said it's very weird and i also think so because usually in 4 man he didn't have ammo issues

[hardy grotto]

Probs just overshooting I’d guess

You don’t usually have more ammo issues in duo I feel like

Than 4 man

[civic wave]

yea it does feel strange

[low radish]

yeah we should have more ammo than we need

logically

[civic wave]

maybe overshooting, maybe taking so long to do alarms that you're bleeding out a lot more resources

[low radish]

and i like do misfire but it's one in 6 shots

[hardy grotto]

are you just pulling lots of rooms

[low radish]

that could be an issue too, we did have like a lot of giants last class VII

[low radish]

no we aren't pulling any

we are shooting some BBC's though

but like 3 of them and each died after 2 sawed off shots

[hardy grotto]

Can’t say for certain what it is

I’d have to see gameplay

[civic wave]

^

[hardy grotto]

r8c2 with PR revo sounds kinda scuffed tho

[civic wave]

mhm

[wild flare]

yes, you can command only to use tools

and pick up items like cells, turbine etc

[low radish]

i love revolver a lot

and i can click heads so no issue

[burnt inlet]

yea ping them

but i meant more if there was anything else i was missing

[hardy grotto]

Revo goes hard

But only really for small clear tbh

[low radish]

It's my favourite gun, i'm the best with it really

[wild flare]

no only those 2 i listed

[low radish]

other guns than shotguns i tend to misfire a loty

but yeah we will update you guys for now back to gaming

[hardy grotto]

Gl

[low radish]

thank you

[burnt inlet]

once ive gotten all of the PD's will an alarm play like after you get the DNA from those HSU thingys?

[low radish]

okay now we are way better on ammo

the charger blood door went smoothly

[wet bear]

No

[tardy ingot]

when enemy has no head :^ )

[hoary mason]

Guess you'll have to find that out by yourself

[burnt inlet]

guess i will, i have a clue cuz leonardo is fishy icl and he said no

[low radish]

sawed off:

back multiplier:

[hardy grotto]

noooooo the overdamage

[low radish]

i see an enemy revo won't kill go sawed off

well not always

but you get the drill

i use sawed off for more health enemies

[burnt inlet]

ran back to spawn cuz i thought i had to do that

the zone 100 part

did NOT read that

anyways that was the most tense run back ive done

died on last part

pain

[low radish]

okay now we have way more ammo

which is weird considering we woke up 2 scouts

[low radish]

Guys the final stretch of R8C2

wish us luck

[tiny wyvern]

Nevermind my brain is currently degrading in real time

Good luck

[low radish]

Thank you

[versed thunder]

Me and my friends were doing R2C1 did one of the terminal uplinks but in the mission it didn't cross it off so is the mission gonna be completable still or not?

[tiny wyvern]

Did it finish

If it finished it should be fine?
I don't think Uplink Bug looks like that

[ocean spindle]

sometimes it fucks up but it still does cout

its just a bit messy

but it does keep counting

[civic wave]

it is likely that the GUI doesn't properly update for clients (but should be fine for the person hosting the lobby) - as long as you've properly completed the uplink there's nothing to worry about

[versed thunder]

Okay that's good to know

Thank you for the answers

[digital mural]

Funny GTFO shenanigans

[tiny wyvern]

Up bug doesn't even let you start the uplink so it should be a okay

[ocean spindle]

she up my link until i ip adress

[turbid meadow]

question: what is the spawning mechanic of an error alarm in case that team splits up (for example 2 and 2)?

[tiny wyvern]

two rooms away from one of you

It will not check if there's someone in a room already

It WILL spawn on top of you

[minor fractal]

2 away from nearest player to alarm start, extended by daisy chain (players in adjacent room push spawns one futher out on that side).

[turbid meadow]

So if two groups are 3 rooms apart, the spawn happens in the middle?

[minor fractal]

Yep, 1 room away from either party

Although they can happen far from whichever side is closest to error start

[turbid meadow]

nice

thank you

[turbid meadow]

wait, whad do you mean error start? The player spawn, or the room that you start an error alarm (error alarm starts after opening the door).

[tiny wyvern]

I believe he means the scream?

I could be wrong

[turbid meadow]

the screams indicates the direction of spawn that already happened

[minor fractal]

The place where you pull the alarm

Unsure about start of level, probably just closest player to elevator

[turbid meadow]

the alarm starts in the middle of the level

[past mesa]

The the distance between you and that course node

[safe cradle]

Just say which level it is

it's faster

[turbid meadow]

R6 D?

[past mesa]

r6d1?

[turbid meadow]

I think

two tanks

[safe cradle]

R6D1 doesn't have an error

[past mesa]

r6d3 is a spawn point error

It spawns from the elevator zone

Forced

Then spawns from the shadow zone on the back end

Forced

[safe cradle]

R6D3 is the only one with an error unless you count R6D4 start and ending or R6D2's charger path

[turbid meadow]

then it is R6D3

there is a spawn room in the overload/secondary? with 2 tanks

[safe cradle]

Overload is based on the starting room like Jish said

And Main one is based on that particular room/zone with shadows

[safe cradle]

Respawn room

Or cocoon room

also called Barracks in that particular case

[minor fractal]

Overload error is from elevator direction
Shadow error has special spawn points near where you pull it, in an adjacent zone.

[safe cradle]

I've no idea how the "timeout" of end of reactor error alarm works tbh but I doubt you're talking about that (the one when you finish reactor)

[turbid meadow]

R6D3: we're doing overload and already finished reactor shutdown. Proceeding to take the bulkhead key.

[past mesa]

Yeah it spawns from elevator

[safe cradle]

They spawn as close to the starting room (elevator) as they can

Leave two people in B with melees

or 3, whatever

[turbid meadow]

how do you know that. It is written somewhere or it is experience?

the spawn from the elevator

[safe cradle]

Does it matter? The shadow error the game DIRECTLY tells you with some fluff text (biomass from zone whatever)

[turbid meadow]

ohhh

[past mesa]

It tells you in the warden text

Top right

[turbid meadow]

i see

thx

[burnt inlet]

is lock melters 100% quiet or can they get poxied?

[prime musk]

they are 100% quiet

[burnt inlet]

aighty tyty

do you have any tips last objective r1c2?

[prime musk]

r1c2 only has 1 objective?

do you mean the last alarm?

[burnt inlet]

ye

[prime musk]

and to be clear we are talking about the big apex door alarm

[burnt inlet]

ye

after u get the pds

[prime musk]

so there are 2 other alarms in that room righjt

you only need to do 1 of them for the key to the big alarm

[burnt inlet]

yep did that last run

also its good to mention im running with three bots

[prime musk]

yeah so you do the one you need and cfoam + mine the door up in the first room there

[burnt inlet]

and we got three burst sentries and one bio

[prime musk]

then cfoam + mine the doors in front (the other direction)

[burnt inlet]

bottom of the tall stairs?

[prime musk]

the one up the stairs

[burnt inlet]

wait dont they spawn in the stairs room?

[prime musk]

(i assume you're aware of how cfoaming doors work?)

[burnt inlet]

yep

[prime musk]

no, all enemies (with a few rare exceptions) always spawn 2 rooms away from you so if you're in a room it's 1 full room between you and where enemies spawn

[burnt inlet]

i thought it was the 2nd room from me

well thats a relief

[prime musk]

anyways you're definitely taking one of each tool with a sniper sentry

for the class 3 (small alarm) in apex door room just open all doors in previous zone to make sure none are broken

[burnt inlet]

and sniper sentry cannot be swapped for burst?

[prime musk]

then for apex door alarm you close and cfoam mine all of them

[prime musk]

it can, but since most enemies during alarms in r1c2 are chargers sniper sentry performs a lot better

[burnt inlet]

oh ok, also im running sawed off and scatter which is horrid for this level ive heard

[prime musk]

sawed off is good

but take hel rifle or high caliber pistol

[burnt inlet]

rather use hel rifle ive heard

[burnt inlet]

yea

[prime musk]

hel rifle is the best weapon against chargers.

but if you're inconsistent at hitting pen, high caliber pistol might be better

[burnt inlet]

yea ik from r1c1 that hel rifle is really good due to its "overpen"

[burnt inlet]

im decent at it, just line up and shoot

[prime musk]

then sawed off + hel rifle

i think r1c2 is likely a hel rifle level for bots too

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[prime musk]

like there is a single alarm that isn't chargers

that has a 50/50 chance of not being needed

[burnt inlet]

most alarms im setting up in a decent way so they rarely get past my sentries and when they do i just sawed off

check media for my current runs loadout

also is it fine that i put the bots towards resource management?

[prime musk]

im not super knowledgeable with bots but i'd be inclined to think you want to give bots hel revolver + hel rifle for r1c2

burst cannon is def not the play

[burnt inlet]

prolly a fair take

i just know that its an overall decent loadout

[prime musk]

give me like 25 minutes im going to actually do a bot run of r1c2

(i did solo it without bots but idk how bots play)

[burnt inlet]

uhm

i wouldnt do it for me

[errant dome]

u never wanna give bots hel rifle

[burnt inlet]

cuz im going off after this one

[prime musk]

yes but what else do you give them into charger spam

id rather gamble on them killing shit than be sure that they don't

[errant dome]

bc

[prime musk]

burst cannon into chargers sucks

[errant dome]

hel rifle on bots is just begging for you to get tked

[burnt inlet]

check the loadout in media if you have any input

[burnt inlet]

scatter on bots

[tardy ingot]

reminder that they shoot 2 bullets to kill one

they dont shoot 3

[prime musk]

oh

hm

[tardy ingot]

or just go mgs and shoot yourself with hel rifle

[errant dome]

xd

[burnt inlet]

i enjoy scatter but i feel like i dont use it that much so its prolly good to swap it

[burnt inlet]

(a guy thought i actually did that)

[prime musk]

im going to try it with hel rifle
i refuse to believe the friendly fire is as bad as you people make it out to be <-- clueless

[burnt inlet]

btw can someone say the order of kills i should focus on in diff rooms?

like the scouts => whatever

[errant dome]

i mean it may not necissarily happen every single run u give them hel rifle but 1) unecessary risk, and 2) while hel rifle is still good without pen... thats assuming bots hit their shots, not uncommon for them to miss, which is rlly not great for hel rifle

[burnt inlet]

and only way to fix both is with a mod that i hate due to bots not picking up those tool refils

[errant dome]

it really depends, scouts are pretty much almost always 1st prio. After that your prio is often whats about to hit you (and if multiple things are about 2 hit you, you prioritize what does the most dmg)

[burnt inlet]

rn i do whatevers closest after scouts

and if its two where one might be a giant i pull out my scatter

[errant dome]

thats usually fine but you need 2 also keep in mind enemies like giants can hit u from a decent bit away

[burnt inlet]

yea ik

which is why i either only do singular ones or scatter the giant then whatevers next to it

or line them up (idk if it does anything)

for alarms should i try to delay the waves as much as possible?

[errant dome]

if you mean with scatter it doesnt have pen, tho trying to hit multiple enemies with the spread is usually good

[burnt inlet]

so its not like "overdamage" gets "transferred" to another enemy behind it?

[errant dome]

no

[burnt inlet]

unfortunate, still usually a mag is more than enough

[burnt inlet]

like for zone 92C alarm i usually have one door open to the south so that enemies go into the sentries i use to cover it (they also almost cover the east) and for the east i usually dont do anything

[errant dome]

depends, are you using foam/mines? if so usually yes, you stall the wave with foam then let it all blow up on the mine, without that it depends. Usually without foam/mines you aim for a funnel where sentries can do most of the work for you

[burnt inlet]

nop 3 burst sentries

thinking about running foam/mines but id need one more person thats better than me and if i had that i wouldnt run bots 💀

[errant dome]

foam + mines is kinda wack with bots ya

[burnt inlet]

check media if you dont understand my explination fully

[errant dome]

that seems fine yea

also worth noting that 2 burst sentries should prolly suffice

you can save the 3rd for later

[burnt inlet]

i mean i usually do this so its around equal distribution of used ammo

and i wanna be more safe than needed

[errant dome]

2 burst sentries can unirnocally solo hold most alarms by themselves

[burnt inlet]

most alarms that i would encounter is prolly worth clarifying

and the last alarm on r1c2 is quite hard even with 3

[errant dome]

well most is prolly a bit of an exaggeration but they can hold a not insinficant amount of alarms

[burnt inlet]

yea

[fathom ice]

just bring 3 sniper sentries

trust

[burnt inlet]

just bring all foam trust

[fathom ice]

honestly it's free with all foam

[burnt inlet]

the amount of gaslighting ive received from this community prolly wins over the amount ive received outside of this community

[fathom ice]

okay whatever u say

[burnt inlet]

do i not need to go all the way north in r1c2? could i just skip north and advance east?

[errant dome]

ok nerd

[burnt shore]

I've read on the internet that there are more apparels than there are missions, thus some random outfits forever remain out of reach for players, is that info still true? Or has there been a change? (I'm not talking about limited event and early access ones)

[burnt inlet]

what signifies room changes? is it changes it the letter for zones?

[digital mural]

It's still true

You cant get all cosmetics

You will miss around 5 or so

[burnt inlet]

can bots pick up objective items?

[halcyon mango]

map markup:
https://imgur.com/a/tYSTMOj

basically

1. do class 3 alarm in the north (should get 2-3 pd's)
2. go east, find key, then do the zone in the south (no alarm) (should get you to around 8 pd's total)
3. go north, find which door has the key for the warden door (4), and do that door (class 3 alarm).
4. once you have the key and all pd's, do the warden door alarm (class 4) for extract.

[restive kraken]

Still in the game-date.Maybe the devs can unlock them in the future for everybody.

[digital mural]

Q
Pick up

[digital mural]

Devs wont do anything anymore for this game

They are done

Also there is mods that unlock all cosmetics

[burnt inlet]

kinda what im doing currently, tyty tho

[burnt shore]

Do other players see them without the mod though? Or does only the user of the mod see them. Because, well, the point of them is being seen in them

[digital mural]

Everyone can see them

It just unlocks the cosmetics that are in the game

It doesnt do anything else

[burnt shore]

ah, nice, they remain unlocked for as long the mod is installed i assume?

[digital mural]

Yep

[burnt shore]

does it also unlock the limited ones?

[digital mural]

Yes

[burnt shore]

thats super cool. good to know. I'm extremely bothered about stuff I can't unlock, as I'm a completionist. Guess I'll just use the mod if and when I manage to legit beat all missions.

[digital mural]

If You are a completionist you should play the OG rundowns too so you can get the full painful GTFO experience

[burnt shore]

How do I do that? Have they not been removed?

[burnt inlet]

should i clear out the route i have to do for step 3? or do they not go towards me when ive activated the alarm?

#gtfo-media message how have u done this in quicker time than ive done half 💀

[civic wave]

there is also the alarm into 91 pretty soon into the level, which does not spawn chargers

[prime musk]

hel revo hel rifle and the bots could basically solo hold all the charger waves idk what people are talking about

[burnt inlet]

taken me like two days on this alone

[civic wave]

so it would be 2 alarms

[prime musk]

fair it's 1 mandatory that doesn't do chargers

[prime musk]

i recorded ill dm you link when it's up

[burnt inlet]

remember my skill level lmao

[prime musk]

nono im saying

the bots could solo hold all the waves

[burnt inlet]

no im saying im trash

so like yk

[prime musk]

solo is the wrong word here

but i could basically not shoot and it would've been fine

[burnt inlet]

i thought it would take u a bit longer but nop

[prime musk]

nah i esitmated 25 min at first and i could probably do everything in 25 minutes if i really pushed it

[burnt inlet]

ima watch it tmrw prolly i have class in like 9.5 hours

[burnt inlet]

damn and to think it takes me like 4x that

[prime musk]

i'd recommend you just shoot giants and stuff instead of meleeing as i did in some cases because it's safer to shoot

and also shoot scouts ig

[burnt inlet]

i can do giants and scouts if theres nothing around them

otherwise its wiser to shoot

actually i might watch the last part

[prime musk]

i didn't timestamp but i did alarms kinda in the middle and then looted pds afterwards

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

i meant the like last alarm and setup for it

and if you cleared rooms that you went into

also i did list u e_99 and it showed a key so im guessing i only have to go there?

[prime musk]

well you go there first

and then do apex door

[burnt inlet]

also icl i have a harder time with the chargers (i think theyre called) rather than giants

which is weird cuz chargers are one shot

(i mean the ones with giant spikes)

[prime musk]

first alarm prep at 8:20 second alarm prep at 20:55 apex alarm prep at 29:45 last alarm (no prep) at 36:30

for second alarm remember to open all the doors in previous zone ot save them for apex alarm and it'll be fine

[burnt inlet]

uhm

i did not remember to save one of them

well

this is gonna be fun

but i think i could maybe be smart about it

[prime musk]

if you're lucky it doesn't matter but ideally you save all

it's just about remembering

[burnt inlet]

i might do that one cheese strat where u put cfoam on the ladder

and then a mine after

[prime musk]

don't

[burnt inlet]

and be very passive with my sentries

[prime musk]

it's really not needed

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[prime musk]

and it's also not very effective against chargers

[burnt inlet]

fair enough

considering i only have one cfoam and mine its not THAT deep that ive lost a door

#gtfo-media message only if i need resources?

[prime musk]

kinda yeah

even

even if you need the resources just get to terminal and ping them

[burnt inlet]

i only need toolrefil

and there is none

so ill just dipp

[prime musk]

yeah good call

[burnt inlet]

should i even close the doors or will they not care?

[prime musk]

closing doors behind you when leaving is a good habit

if you're not clearing rooms as you pass through them closing them behind you when entering is good too

[burnt inlet]

yea i always when im not clearing them (i usually do still

im guessing cfoam door 99A to 99C?

and mine it

[prime musk]

it's 99a to 99b but yes

[burnt inlet]

didnt realize those were two separate rooms

[prime musk]

learning to recognise room dividers isn't super easy

[burnt inlet]

arches no?

[prime musk]

yeah it's almost always some kind of arch

[burnt inlet]

i mean i dont look up so respawn rooms will come as a surprise

also last tool refill is in 98 so im guessing i wont have that

[prime musk]

not until you do alarm to 98 no

[burnt inlet]

and i dont need to

[prime musk]

(which is the last alarm you do)

[burnt inlet]

so

i wont no?

[prime musk]

well what i did and would recommend

[burnt inlet]

as in i got key

and pds

shouldnt i just do last alarm as to not open up another flank

[prime musk]

is doing alarm to 94 (mandatory)
then alarm for key (98/99)
then alarm to 100 with key
then other alarm (98/99)

but if you have enough pds you don't need to do the last of those

[burnt inlet]

yea i have enough

[prime musk]

yeah then just do alarm to 100

[burnt inlet]

should i put all sentries on the door 95 to 94?

[prime musk]

you have how many sentries?

3?

[burnt inlet]

ye

all burst

[prime musk]

place 2 downstairs in 95

facing the ladder but from different sides

and one upstairs in 95 in the middle facing the door to 99

[burnt inlet]

on the arch im assuming?

[prime musk]

can be on the arch

if not on the bridge, slightly further back

[burnt inlet]

should i go back and get another cfoam granade for the mined door?

[prime musk]

if you want to be extra safe yes

it isn't necessary but it will help

[burnt inlet]

i think i can partially trap some in 94D if they spawn there

cuz i still have that ones doors

both

all three actually

[prime musk]

you only need to cfoam/mine and care about the doors to 94B

[burnt inlet]

but closing those doors would it help?

[prime musk]

the status of other doors literally don't matter

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[prime musk]

enemies spawn 2 rooms away right, so 94 A/D and 99B

[burnt inlet]

yea i can encircle 94D

[prime musk]

and they path through the least amount of rooms possible (not the actual way it works but this is how it works 99.9% of the time)

so they'll never go between 94D and A when you ar edoing alarm in 95

[burnt inlet]

oh rite cuz they focus on the door even if its closed

cfoamed doors can they be opened?

[prime musk]

no

once any cfoam is on a door, it cannot be openend

[burnt inlet]

aight

[prime musk]

it has to be broken to pass through
player can do that with melee

[burnt inlet]

yea im not gonna break down any

ok well here goes nothing

warden scan

YES

fckn finally

tyty

end screen said 2 hours 💀

[prime musk]

congrats

[burnt inlet]

tyty

ty for helping

icl the amount of help ive recieved with this level (except for actually playing with someone) is insane

also im running fov on 90 should i increase it more?

[prime musk]

there is an objective advantage to higher fov.

[burnt inlet]

yea ik, coming from siege its what i run there

so just auto chose it

[prime musk]

it does feel a bit weird at first, and judging distances becomes harder with higher fov, but it's absolutely worth.

[burnt inlet]

i feel like that would just be better for me cuz i get kinda into knife range for enemies

so running spear it would make it quicker an dat

[digital mural]

Yes

200

[prime musk]

take hammer or knife. spear is never the play.

[burnt inlet]

It should be 360

[burnt inlet]

Aight

Well tyty

[grizzled patrol]

Take a bat, be the outlyer

[prime musk]

@wild flare #gtfo-media message
what do you think of giving bots hel rifle into chargers

[grizzled patrol]

On nightmares it Could be whack

[wild flare]

I think i tried it once or twice and i swear i got a feeling, that bots cannot oneshot chargers with it🤔

[prime musk]

that's just not correct they sure did that for me

my experience is literally limited to that clear but i was impressed by the bots shooting

they cleared the alarms easily

[wild flare]

Yeah i think i just missed something

[grizzled patrol]

Pbly missed a lot

[wild flare]

Yeah, as long as you keep enemies away from close range

Maybe i should try hel rifles for r8e1

There are so much enemies

I tried yesterday few times, beginning of lvl is hard

[prime musk]

on paper i think hel rifle is really good for bots at least

kills anything it hits at any range

is good into bigs

doesn't have any real pitfalls save for ammo economy maybe

[grizzled patrol]

They have already fixed the exploit, havent they?

[wild flare]

Which one? Idk about it

[grizzled patrol]

Secondary

[prime musk]

previously you could activate secondary after finishing main

[grizzled patrol]

You were Not required to do it at the beginning

[wild flare]

Oh right, yes, i got a very good rng with bulkhead and colored key, finished main scan first, OPENED door, then went to secondary and after putting command terminal got error

So i couldn't finish secondary and reset

[grizzled patrol]

Wait what Tools do your Bots have? @wild flare

Normally people Run Double foam, but with Bots it doesnt Sound viable

[prime musk]

definitely not, it's probably just double sniper sentry or 1 sniper sentry 1 burst sentry

[grizzled patrol]

At that Point might as well Go Triple sentry If Mine wont get that much value

[wild flare]

I tried bio+2 mine deployers on bots, foam on myself

At first i tried bio + sniper turrets on bots and mine deployer on myself

But with all that running and slow ass turret deployment from bots it is not worth it i think

Maybe i should use hel turrets for stalling xd

My pb after few tries was second door, which required colored key card, i didnt knew about this and died

[grizzled patrol]

If you Ran fast enough, you can Just hold for Like a Minute in the Donut room

[burnt inlet]

I might go with knoife

[frail heart]

on r8e1?

[wild flare]

Yeah

[frail heart]

only need 1 mine deployer you can just close doors behind you and run

cfoam on you is probably a good idea tho

[wild flare]

Yeah, thats the problem, i have to babysit bots to be sure, they are on my side of door

[frail heart]

they will tp through them if you get far enough away

[wild flare]

I hope i can do this in time, so bots have time to clip through walls to me, i will grind lvl today

Btw, since there are crap ton of enemies spawning, do i even need mine deployer?

Since i can run away

[prime musk]

it's probably nice to have at the last door so that when you stop running you get the fast spawns instead of full spawncap of shit thrown at you immediately

[wild flare]

Or i guess for zones with keycard i need it to buy some time

[placid sky]

what's the difference between mom and big mom

[tardy ingot]

Hp
Stagger hp
Size
Babies spawned
Baby spawn cooldown

[prime musk]

wait are the wiki numbers correct? in that pmom has 2500 stagger hp (and also 2500hp?)

nvm i just realised yes im just stupid stagger multiplier is a stat that exists

[fathom ice]

💀

[prime musk]

team this is why short rifle is best mom kill weapon

it has low enough stagger multi that it can'tt cause moving birth

[grizzled patrol]

Thats why you should Always Hel PP the Mom and scatter the Babies

[sturdy glen]

wait till you find out which gun has a lot of it

[stoic hedge]

What's up with spitters sometimes spitting at you despite you successfully flashing them a second ago?
is it just some latency issue or host vs. client jank or is there some sane reasoning to it

[frail heart]

latency prob

[fallen kite]

sometimes ur flashlight isnt long enough

the orange/yellow ones have really short ranges

and sometimes ur falshlight isnt at the right angle to hit the spitter

[fallen kite]

which is bs i hate that shit

[safe cradle]

No I know what Snowball means

You flash the spitter, it does both the animation and the noise

[fallen kite]

ohhhhh

[safe cradle]

Yet it spits anyway like the second after

I'll always chalked it up to desync

[fallen kite]

latency

[safe cradle]

I guess you can avoid that by keeping the light on it for a second more

[fallen kite]

mb

[fallen kite]

it'd have to be earlier no?

[tiny wyvern]

ABD
(Always Blame Desync)

[fallen kite]

like you flash it earlier

[safe cradle]

Nah just keep the light on the spitter even if it "shrieked"

[stoic hedge]

yeah I meant cases where it was successfully flashed on your end with the squeak and retraction, but then it spits at you a second later anyway

I figured it's most likely a latency/client jank kind of issue but hoped maybe there's some consistent explanation

[knotty relic]

I am a fan of Carbine flashlight v Spitters. Very bright and long range. Means it’s easier to accidentally wake sleepers though.

[native sun]

Yeah, it's just already successfully exploded on the host's end before you as client tells host that you've successfully used your flashlight on it.

Same as staggering an enemy but their attack has already succeeded on host's end so you get hit anyway.

[dusty basalt]

Are there any levels with a lot of heavy enemies only with easy access? I want to practice fighting them, like my melee. Giants, big shooters, hybrids, chickens, scouts.

[ocean spindle]

giants, r2b2, chickens- uh pray they spawn

same level

hybrids im actually not so sure cuz they are pretty hard to find sleeping in the wild

[dusty basalt]

I'll try it

[dusty basalt]

Does the sniper one shot head shot all these enemies?

[prime musk]

r5c1

solo first alarm, and then kill the scouts, and you have access to a respawn room with just giants and hybrids

ig lack or resources isn't optimal because they are kinda inaccessible without stealthing and clearing sideroom stuff

[ocean spindle]

yeps but its overall not the best option

oh scouts u can just go into r1a1 theres 2 after the first alarm

[past mesa]

R6b2 go left two giant,scout, smalls, without much trouble decent population has a chance for chickens

Hybirds is harder probs r6d1 giant respawn room is your best bet for them

[dusty basalt]

I'm trying r2b2 I don't have r5c1 or r6b2 unlocked yet

[past mesa]

R6b2

[dusty basalt]

I'm all the way back at r2d1

[past mesa]

It is gated by one level

R6a1

[ocean spindle]

and b1 no?

[past mesa]

I think maybe it is two

Oh fuck

[dusty basalt]

Lol, I got an achievement for soloing a giant with a melee weapon

[ocean spindle]

omg gamer

🔥

:D

[dusty basalt]

It may be stupid, but I'm using knife

[ocean spindle]

ok pro gamer

[tiny wyvern]

Trying with the knife isn't stupid
Getting good with the knife on giants and chickens is fine
Being convinced that you can actually consistently solo one with a knife when you play with a group is, imo, the stupid thing

[dusty basalt]

Is there any way to stealth kill multiple giants if they're right next to eachother, or can that only be done multiplayer?

Maybe not with knife but anything?

[tiny wyvern]

Bat juggle sorta kinda

It's a toss up, you usually leave them for last and just shoot

[dusty basalt]

makes sense

[past mesa]

Yeah

Scream cancel and luck tho

Honestly never worth the risk

[dusty basalt]

What's the minimum damage increase artifact I need for a DMR to always 100% chance headshot kill strikers?

[ocean spindle]

yes

:]

[dusty basalt]

I know 10% but I have a 6% one

[ocean spindle]

any % will make dmr oneshot strikers

[dusty basalt]

1%?

[ocean spindle]

it leaves them at stupidly low health

like 0.0XX something

i think

[dusty basalt]

ah, so just that tincie bit so it's not a heavy meta

[ocean spindle]

oh found it its 0.4 :D
yeah i mean most mains are sort of made to be general clear without being as powerful as specials

so it has that but can be just bypassed easily

[dusty basalt]

good balance

if no artifacts, hel auto sentry should cover the rest pretty well

[prime musk]

will pmom prioritise screaming over birthing if both actions are available or is it rng

[fathom ice]

isn't it always scream first anw

since she doesn't need los to scream

u never get that situation pmuch

u could force scream by backing up into multiple rooms ig so scream and birth are both off cd

[prime musk]

the specific scenario i have in mind is cfoam tripping pmom

[fathom ice]

then even in los psure she'll scream first

[prime musk]

the cooldown is off and she has los when cfoam runs out

[fathom ice]

depends when u foam her

psure she'll scream if it's available

[prime musk]

ok i have competent player confirmation it works like i think it does which is all i need ty

[fathom ice]

if u want it to be guaranteed just hide when foam runs out

[prime musk]

i am looking for consistent no birth pmom kill solo

[minor fractal]

@past mesa

[fathom ice]

with what loadout

[prime musk]

cfoam tripping when by hiding around a corner and then getting scream immediately when unfoamed gives scatter enough time to kill without birthing

[fathom ice]

client?

[prime musk]

host

[fathom ice]

just bring bc honestly

[prime musk]

with ranged options you can just have high ground with cover and peek every scream

[fathom ice]

if u can line up tumors scatter kills when ctrip ends

psure

u just get 2 free shots on scream

maybe even reload

ctrip

and 4 more shots

[prime musk]

ye

we'll see what i end up going for if i do end up committing to the grind

[fathom ice]

what are u grinding

[prime musk]

i have done one (1) attempt so far

r4e1w/sec solo

[fathom ice]

ew

another 6 hour clear yawn

[prime musk]

i would doorbug reactor and drain queued waves once code 6 is in

would probably be a 3-4 hour clear

[fathom ice]

do main only first

[prime musk]

main only is harder

(if you doorbug reactor)

[fathom ice]

sec is literally not doable without baby cap

[fathom ice]

exactly

[frail heart]

it is

you just have to literally be a god

so its only in theory

[fathom ice]

exactly

[prime musk]

listen

[fathom ice]

zed

[frail heart]

a good enough player would have to grind for weeks