#gtfo-related-questions

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tidal quartz
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So if i would ask about R1C1, I won´t get beamed into the shadow realm?

soft crater
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OG Rundowns. Alts are fine

tidal quartz
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Any tips on R1C1? After wathcing the wiki guide and failing 5 times on wave 8, I´m at a loss of words.

soft crater
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@digital mural I don't have the r1c1 copypasta

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Help

prime musk
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guessing the wave of hybrids + giants at end?

past mesa
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Could be lack of tool

tidal quartz
fathom ice
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bring 4 hel rifles

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and turn ur brain off

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it's free

digital mural
# tidal quartz Any tips on R1C1? After wathcing the wiki guide and failing 5 times on wave 8, I...

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

minor fractal
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Wave 6 is much harder than 8

past mesa
minor fractal
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so it's surprising if 8 kills you consistently

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but 6 isn't a problem

tidal quartz
digital mural
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Where are You holding

tidal quartz
past mesa
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What sentries do you have

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when are you placing them down

tidal quartz
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we had 3x burst

past mesa
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Nice

tidal quartz
past mesa
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Do you have them all down

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At the same time

tidal quartz
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all turrets are set, but like displaced a bit

digital mural
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Use 2 at the same time

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Not all 3 of them

past mesa
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Use the 3rd for wave 6 and 8

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other wise don’t use it

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The extract wave doesn’t matter to much it is 3 enemies like every 15 seconds

minor fractal
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It is just very surprising that wave 8 would overrun you, but literally none of the other waves would

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It sounds like something else is going on

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Like sentries running out because it's 3 down always

past mesa
chrome topaz
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how exactly do respawn rooms work? i know the enemies will respawn after you leave the room, but will it always be the same enemies, same amount, same location etc or does it vary?

fathom ice
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yes

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everything is same

digital mural
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Omg Sky

fathom ice
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they might roll their rotation

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but that's it

prime musk
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no'

past mesa
chrome topaz
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alr thanks

prime musk
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enemeis can both swap location and what enemy spawns where can change too

tiny wyvern
digital mural
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Sky misinfo
Crazy

tiny wyvern
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Ask about the scripted ones btw if you're confused

past mesa
tiny wyvern
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my english is not englishing today

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Perhaps I should go back to chinese

digital mural
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Good idea

minor fractal
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I think it might be limited to the same room or the same pod

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Same pod is more likely

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But it's very rare you will have a giant in a small pod in a respawn

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It's just not something that happens in the game very much

chrome topaz
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also, is R5A2 overload possible in same run as secondary? ive only found 2 bulkhead keys, and 1 dc to put them in

past mesa
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good luck

chrome topaz
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ah alright, objective stack was telling me to find a bulkhead key lol

knotty relic
tiny wyvern
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Spoilers:
||There are also secondaries that include main: i.e. doing secondary also does main, since those secondaries skip secondary, for those levels there will not be enough bulk keys to do all objectives as well.||

sinful quest
prime musk
digital mural
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A2

Has a pfp of B2

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🤨

sinful quest
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A2

sturdy dew
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Which guns are best for bots?

digital mural
minor fractal
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It might be DTR best, but it's hard to tell just from feel

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BC makes a major difference, though

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Enables them to fight bosses w/ you, gives them a ton of clear speed, etc.

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Good into all target types all around

sturdy dew
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i see i see

minor fractal
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In theory, Veruta might help them conserve ammo more

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But they will still spend ammo, and not do very much w/ it

tulip osprey
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choke mod sg for the one who carries biotracker always

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that's in my case tho, would love to hear any other suggestions

digital mural
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Dont give bots shotguns

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They are uuuuh

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Kinda dumb

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And friendly fire hurts a lot too

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So unless you want them to just spam shotgun and don't kill anything or get friendly fired to death it's on you

minor fractal
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Choke has the issue that they will use the full RoF

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But they don't get very good value from it

tulip osprey
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so shotguns is a no no
brr brr better🤔

prime musk
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how good is bot accuracy

digital mural
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Better than pubs thats for sure

prime musk
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like, why not give them hel rifle? ammo economy? with random pen even decent acc will be enough for decent ammo economy no?

digital mural
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In my opinion is mostly a ammo issue

ocean spindle
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same goes for every 30 dmg gun

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u dont notice at all the ff with a mg but u do with everything else

prime musk
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getting hit by the bots is a skill issue tbh

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like keep track of enemies and bots and don't be between them

digital mural
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FF is a lot more common than people think at first

ocean spindle
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but that follows my duo partner

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ff in duos is the most common thing ever

digital mural
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Even if You are not trying to get in front they sometimes get behind you and shoot you for no reason

ocean spindle
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specially in red scans

digital mural
ocean spindle
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in solos it is so uncommon u might not even lnow they have friendly fire

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on duos

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u get shot

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a lot

digital mural
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I have múltiple times where i'm waiting for a door to be broken
And uh oh fucking Dauda just melts my back

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even with a machinegun those fuckers are dangerous

ocean spindle
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the other half of not using hel rifle reasons is just they wont use pen but that is sort of a nothing sandwich, also it sort of affects their time to kill since they dont really shoot fast with it, and they will do the entire animation of the reload which is also a problem with the mg

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but at least then they have 60 bullets

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to kill some smalls

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if ur dropping into idk r5b3 then probs a hel rifles better but needs testing

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i remember someone did a wholeee umm excel page with accuracy mod and 3 bots on r1c1 to check the best guns

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HAR ended up on top

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but that was like on alt r2 times

digital mural
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Bots with HAR would go wild if it wasnt for the ammo

ocean spindle
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eh for my experience they might be the first ones to run out but not that far behind an mg bot

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har has ammo issues but its not the ammo-drain-piece-of-shit it seems

digital mural
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HAR my beloved

ocean spindle
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har my beloved indeed

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r7c2 runs with har are fun

lone mortar
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you like men

digital mural
lone mortar
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u like women only if they represent men

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thats so gay of you

digital mural
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Damn

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They got me

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Fuck You Gayser

knotty relic
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Yeah as the babysitter of the bot on my team (we’re usually a trio) I can firmly agree that it’s mostly about hoping they can’t kill you. Bot with a shotgun is pretty cool except they don’t seem to actually use engagement ranges for guns? They waste ammo and then on scans they walk behind you for no reason and then shoot at an enemy that just spawned two rooms away, dealing like half your health bar for free.

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And then my second favorite thing is when you gove them a gun like Hel Rifle or some other low ammo combo they run out of ammo during scans an whatnot and now sprint at everything they see with a hammer so they can say they’re still helping out.

stable crescent
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does anyone know if the little red dots on the scanner are actually "senstive" sleepers or if its a visual bug? i've heard both

upper ginkgo
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visual bug

stiff summit
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how viable is it to play the game as a duo? i only have 1 friend and MM seems kinda low pop (and we are both new and dont want to grief anyone), especially on the lower rundowns

digital mural
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Duo in this game is really hard without prior experience

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Also we have LFG

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.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT
stiff summit
# digital mural Also we have LFG

my experience with MMO's,L4D, and PD2 has made me default assume that LFG is hostile to new/inexperienced players for the most part, is that not the case here?

digital mural
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No its not

stiff summit
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okay cool, last question. while playing R1A1 i had a big black blob cover 80% of my screen, i did a bit of googling and it seems that was something refered to as "the liquid bug" that seems to be more common for some people than others is that just something im gonna have to deal with or is there a known fix for it? i didnt see one while poking around forums

digital mural
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And no, you can't fix it

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It just happens

stiff summit
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damm aight

ocean spindle
snow spear
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is high caliber pistol good?

digital mural
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Yep

wild flare
digital mural
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Is a good choice for almost everything

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One shot smalls

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Decent against big enemies

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Even useful against scouts

halcyon current
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HCP is very versatile

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It's also very fun

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It's just not the best

digital mural
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Its the best if You want an all rounder thats easy to use

halcyon current
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I am inclined to agree

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You literally just have to make shots connect

frail heart
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slug shotty and HCP goes hard

halcyon current
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Fun quick swap loadout

digital mural
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Too bad i miss 50% of my HCP mag

snow spear
frail heart
snow spear
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no answers?

halcyon current
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I don't like it, you might.

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I don't like any auto in gtfo

snow spear
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i wanna use heavy submachine gun with combat shotgun

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i just like the sight

halcyon current
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Yeah that should be viable for at least most of early gtfo

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Your taste might change when things get harder

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CS is very solid tho

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People do like HSMG

snow spear
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but in harder floors it gets worse right

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so how do people deal with crowd control in harder waves

halcyon current
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Kinda sorta

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It's moreso the fact that Hel weapons just outpace most other weapons if you can use em tbh

snow spear
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and i dont like it aswell even if i can learn it

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i rather use dmr

halcyon current
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Like straight up Hel Gun? It's a headshot weapon tbh.

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If you can use DMR you can use HG imo

snow spear
halcyon current
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I love it ngl

snow spear
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the one on main

upper ginkgo
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solid main, but no one talks about it

halcyon current
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Burst Pistol is one of the only weapons I personally refuse to use.

snow spear
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not burst pistol

halcyon current
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Oh, Carbine?

snow spear
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yes

halcyon current
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Very solid, possibly the most effective "pick up and use" gun in GTFO

digital mural
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There is 4 burst guns in mains

snow spear
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carbine

digital mural
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Burst rifle, Carbine, DTR and Burst pisotl

snow spear
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CARBINE CARBINE CARBINE

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CARBINE

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phew

halcyon current
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Tbh I forgot to mentally classify DTR as a burst weapon

digital mural
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LMAO

snow spear
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i lost half of my breathe typing that

digital mural
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Yeah Carbine is a really good gun

halcyon current
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It's like, the easiest to use gun in GTFO

snow spear
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hmmm

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also whats the diff between hel shotgun and combat shotgun

halcyon current
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I genuinely think you can give Carbine to anyone and they'll do pretty alright with it.

halcyon current
digital mural
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Hel shotgun staggers and pen but has more spread

halcyon current
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It's as good at killing 20 dudes as it is at killing 2 if they're all close enough together

digital mural
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Combat shotgun doesnt have much spread but cant stagger as easily and cant pen

snow spear
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hmmmm

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weird

halcyon current
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Love Hel Shotgun, it's super super close range tho

snow spear
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im better at using combat shotgun than hel shotgun

halcyon current
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Most people don't like HelShotty till they get really comfortable with it

digital mural
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Combat shotgun is easier to use

halcyon current
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I don't know anyone who just picked up HS the first time and loved it tbh

snow spear
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it has different feeling than combat shotgun

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but i do love those kind of shotguns

halcyon current
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HS is a street sweeper tbh

snow spear
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if i use helshotgun with high caliber pistool is it goooooodddd?

fathom ice
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what is hs

digital mural
halcyon current
fathom ice
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oh my god why are u calling hel shotgun hs

halcyon current
snow spear
minor fractal
halcyon current
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^

digital mural
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Aint no way we are using highschoolers in GTFO now

snow spear
halcyon current
fathom ice
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no one calls hel gun hg

halcyon current
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I don't care

digital mural
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I was going to ask what does HG means

hardy grotto
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if only HS didnt conflict with other things

halcyon current
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You knew what it meant so like, clearly it didn't matter

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If only you had the higher brain power to contextualize a convo, damn

digital mural
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Chilllllll

snow spear
upper ginkgo
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beth you didn't control for long range aggro again

hardy grotto
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true

snow spear
hardy grotto
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shouldve done that

frail heart
halcyon current
frail heart
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just shoot and dont die

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easy

halcyon current
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Unironically if 3 people can shoot and 1 person knows the level you'll get knowledge carried

snow spear
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i play at random floors so i forgor what i was doing

fathom ice
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that's some weird takes

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ngl

snow spear
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i was told to carry a fusion battery and run

halcyon current
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Thanks, came from Eva

snow spear
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for the whole 30 mins

halcyon current
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It happens lmao

digital mural
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You just noticed it?

snow spear
halcyon current
digital mural
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WOW HEY

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not that Eva

snow spear
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we have many eva

halcyon current
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Should I know about this person

digital mural
digital mural
snow spear
digital mural
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Don't Google it

snow spear
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very famous actress

halcyon current
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Not famous enough apparently

digital mural
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Good content
But thats off topic

stiff summit
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do quick chat commands actually do anything for the bots? (like the synchronize/count down ones for stealth, IK you have to use the quick chat to tell them to use their gadgets)

halcyon current
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Yes

snow spear
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okay

digital mural
halcyon current
snow spear
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so whats the diff between hel revolver and high caliber pistol?
both gun are pewpew with high damage right

fathom ice
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no

halcyon current
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Very different tbh

upper ginkgo
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8 dmg main vs 30 dmg special lool

digital mural
halcyon current
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^

halcyon current
snow spear
upper ginkgo
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8 is bigger than 30 in modulo 5

snow spear
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the heavy revolver or the revolver

fathom ice
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??

halcyon current
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Hel Revolver is the primary

snow spear
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we have 2 revolvers right

digital mural
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There is only one hel revolver

fathom ice
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one hel revolver and one revolver

halcyon current
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The Revolver special is a bit like HCP but it favors headshots drastically

digital mural
upper ginkgo
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it's generally not a good idea to compare main weapons and special weapons first off

halcyon current
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Yeah, totally different niches

upper ginkgo
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it's better to compare mains vs mains

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and specials vs specials

errant dome
halcyon current
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What is "modulo 5"

errant dome
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remainder when u devide by 5

halcyon current
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Oh yeah nah, you can keep that stuff

snow spear
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okay can we do a comparison on high caliber pistol with hel revolver and revolver

frail heart
fathom ice
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no

halcyon current
digital mural
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2 specials and one main

fathom ice
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hcp is a giant/charger clear, revo is smalls wave clear, hel revo is universal

errant dome
snow spear
frail heart
digital mural
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Because comparing a Main and a special doesnt work

knotty relic
digital mural
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2 different types of guns

snow spear
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but pistol

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but but but

halcyon current
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HCP is also a good panic button if you can aim tbh, it will just delete 6 small enemies infront of you if you need it to

snow spear
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pistol

frail heart
snow spear
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i love panic button

knotty relic
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I only picked it because it doesn’t one shot my back.

snow spear
errant dome
snow spear
halcyon current
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You can unironically use both

digital mural
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:)

snow spear
# frail heart both

i just wnana see if i should use hel shotgun and HCP or hel revolver and combat shotgun

digital mural
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The rolling cylinder?

errant dome
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i dont remember tbh

digital mural
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The cilynder

knotty relic
snow spear
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but isnt friendly fire disabled?

frail heart
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this is why scatter is the best

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it one shots ur teammates

errant dome
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all guns will do double their base dmg to freindlies

snow spear
frail heart
errant dome
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in scatter's case thats over 300 dmg :3

snow spear
frail heart
fathom ice
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lf1 r4e1 duo

snow spear
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the one where i accidently killed 4 giants in 2 shots right?

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oh that one

errant dome
snow spear
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okay so whats so good about the normal shotgun?

fathom ice
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I haven't slept

snow spear
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me bored

fathom ice
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??

errant dome
frail heart
errant dome
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its a good flex weapon

snow spear
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since it requires skill?

frail heart
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na

errant dome
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good at killing normals and decent boss dmg

fathom ice
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???

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shotguns do not need skill

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for the most part

snow spear
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i do

fathom ice
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who are you

minor fractal
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Lining up balls takes some skill

snow spear
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rushing towards 10 sleepers just to kill 1 giant

fathom ice
errant dome
snow spear
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then die for the most parts

fathom ice
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I'm dead tho

errant dome
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i mean im half awake

fathom ice
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I'll try not to fall asleep in reactor

errant dome
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perfect combo right

digital mural
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Why are we talking about balls?

frail heart
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i still need a better r4e1 duo for my yt

fathom ice
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ur aussie

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i'm sorry

frail heart
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ill carry ur ass

fathom ice
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not on 350

hardy grotto
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frosty i'd offer but last time i did a reactor with tru

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it didnt go well

frail heart
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lmaooo

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i can code hunt on ping

fathom ice
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u like have to predict so much more

hardy grotto
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the 300ms defense would be sick tho

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NAH NAH

frail heart
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its pretty easy

hardy grotto
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ur defending

frail heart
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NOOOOOOOOO

errant dome
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prediction mod

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trust

frail heart
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anyway can someone visit me on FMV

fathom ice
frail heart
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im chilling

fathom ice
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i'm sorry for ur loss

errant dome
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i still cant believe you were playing abberation on that kind of ping

fathom ice
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it was less

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who was host again

frail heart
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im so used to knowing how to dodge licks

fathom ice
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hafu?

frail heart
fathom ice
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o

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its like 200

frail heart
fathom ice
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mb less

fathom ice
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is she UK or smth

hardy grotto
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no

frail heart
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denmark

errant dome
fathom ice
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ah damn

hardy grotto
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uk is better than denmark for sure

native sun
snow spear
fathom ice
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yeah that's crazy

frail heart
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but i usually play F1 on 300 ping

fathom ice
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chad bullied me for not having a sub hour r4e1 duo

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i feel sad

errant dome
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maybe i just suck 2 much i cant play on that ping xd

frail heart
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ur too used to no ping

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if ur aussie you are just built different

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idk what to say

errant dome
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apparently

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i mean i can handle 150 and less

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200+ i fall apart

fathom ice
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okay white name

frail heart
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150 feels like a christmas miracle

hardy grotto
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LOL

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wow sky your ego really grew by 10 times when you got that role...

errant dome
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smh

fathom ice
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LMAO

hardy grotto
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starting to think im a bad influence

fathom ice
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i had to okay

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frosty did this to me first

errant dome
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smh

frail heart
fathom ice
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OL

errant dome
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ok so frosty

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is the bad influence

frail heart
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Get scouts are friends then talk to me

fathom ice
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i'm not messaging mods

errant dome
digital mural
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So Frosty is the one that throws runs by not killing scouts

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Makes sense

frail heart
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they had cancer anyway

fathom ice
fading rune
fathom ice
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they are friends

frail heart
fathom ice
errant dome
fading rune
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amount.

frail heart
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COCKS?

fathom ice
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LMAO

errant dome
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i am now regretting my choice of words

fathom ice
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that gives off funz vibes

frail heart
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that guy is bad

digital mural
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This is so gay

fathom ice
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you are gay

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anw time to go rewatch Ray placing mines with a knife

digital mural
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gay and lesbian

lone mortar
fathom ice
lone mortar
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you carried

fathom ice
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who

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when

lone mortar
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ur mom

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:3

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heh gotem

flat oar
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sky should be blue not red

fathom ice
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oh well

sturdy glen
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sky u need to assemble your speed team

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your team captain

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choose from the masses of unsigned speed players

fathom ice
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making a static grrr

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I can't complain that I don't have a static then

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that's no fun

errant dome
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smh

frail heart
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😔

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its a sad sad day

flat oar
flat oar
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Not good enough to find a static team

tiny wyvern
frail heart
grizzled patrol
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@lone mortar Love you pookie

lone mortar
grizzled patrol
carmine egret
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dumbass question, but is there a consistent way to dodge lick attacks, still figuring stuff out and I've been struggling the most with those

flat oar
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walk sideway pretty consistent when you are host

safe cradle
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host really makes a lot of stuff easier to be honest

crystal blaze
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Except scattering mothers

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And tanks

prime musk
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i can't believe r3d1 solo speeds are miserable

reset to get 389 so half runs are dead before starting
get no ammo or med in the class 6 room so forced to backtrack because rng sucks
get to class 5 and get fucked by close/split spawns

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the class 5 is def the chokepoint of the run but error is just inconsistent because resource rng

prime musk
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390 is infinitely worse especially solo

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390 fucks scans so enemies path through the middle or the room and shit

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getting the key is just worse too because it's an extra room deep

tardy ingot
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the extra room doesnt rly matter

prime musk
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ehhh it has advantages too in a sense but in my experience it'

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just isn't worth it

tardy ingot
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as long as you dont go into 390 E you are same speed overall and you avoid just as many enemies as you would in 389 usually

prime musk
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avoid enemies nah everything is waking

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like it's kinda unavoidable solo

tardy ingot
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ah yes

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390 E waking up

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(thats the ending room which youd need to get an error to spawn inside in for that to happen)

prime musk
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maybe 390E doesn't wake but it's like irrelevant

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every room you are running through is waking is my point

tardy ingot
prime musk
#

it does because you can't really open doors and fight at same time

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maybe it's my skill issue

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i just can't push through rooms and open doors

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without killing first

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whatever the case the bigger reason is the alarm

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alarm to 390 is just worse

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significantly worse

ocean lance
#

i prefer 390 lol

prime musk
#

interesting

#

you run sawed off burst cannon right

ocean lance
#

yeah sawed off bc mines

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cause on 390

#

you just mine the doors behind you for waves

prime musk
#

i see

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i have been running sawed off bc burst sentry

#

390 alarm doesn't really have any good sentry spots

ocean lance
#

oh no

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mine cause sentry is slow

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sentry is free but slow z_sad

prime musk
#

wdym

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sentry is slower for like the blood door and that's it

ocean lance
#

pmom skip

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i doubt you can get like a 34 with sentry

#

idk

prime musk
#

oh you just full send through pmom and don't kill her even?

ocean lance
#

well you have to

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it's a speed

prime musk
ocean lance
#

idk

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hani got a 34:something?

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like 15

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i was about to get a 34

#

died to pmom

grizzled patrol
ocean lance
#

yeah that's what i meant

ocean lance
prime musk
#

maybe i have a skill issue

#

sentry carries me hard during class 5

ocean lance
#

yeah that's completely a skill issue XD

prime musk
#

carries is maybe an overstatement but i'd struggle without it i think

ocean lance
#

yeah the alarms are pretty rough solo without sentry

#

but you're not gonna get a better time with sentry than with mine that's the thing

prime musk
#

the class 3 and class 6 are probably fine if i have the ammo

#

but man the class 5 fdsksdf

ocean lance
#

class 5 you mean

#

ah

#

yeah

#

i pretty much either get there with a 5 use ammo

prime musk
#

might try running hel gun just to make alarms better

ocean lance
#

and almsot full ammo

#

or you don't complete it

prime musk
#

ye

#

it is a carry big ammo start with ammo or death alarm for sure

grizzled patrol
ocean lance
#

with sentry 3 use iis probably enough

ocean lance
prime musk
#

3 use is enough if you don't get close spawns several times

ocean lance
#

you know what's fucked?

#

apex alarm for charger room

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without sentry

#

close spawn and scan is on the first big door?

#

you're fucked

prime musk
#

mine the door before pulling alarm or what?

ocean lance
#

yeah but you can get MULTIPLE

#

close spawns

prime musk
#

yeah

ocean lance
#

my worst was a big red in front of door

#

with 3 cloe spawns

#

close*

prime musk
#

1 close spawn is fine multiple is awful

ocean lance
#

no 1 is fine

#

multiple is just a reset sadly lol

prime musk
#

also im assuming charger zone is just stealth?

ocean lance
#

p much

#

im guessing that's what people do to get a good itme

prime musk
#

worth taking hammer for the occasional charger kill or just knife

ocean lance
#

idk

#

i just go bat

#

or knife

#

what are you running sawed off bc?

prime musk
#

i have been yeah

ocean lance
#

yeah

#

hani did too

prime musk
#

i initially wanted to run sawed off scatter but the shooters

#

the fucking shooters

ocean lance
#

shooters is jsut shooters yeah

#

i want to run that more

grizzled patrol
ocean lance
#

but mine is miserable thats true

prime musk
#

giving up sawed off for scatter is just not worth

#

(as in taking main that can kill shooters)

ocean lance
#

i got 2 decent runs that were on pace for 35

#

die to pmom cause she justruns into me

#

for no fucking reason

ocean lance
#

sawed off king

prime musk
#

ye

#

did you record you run

#

if so can you dm me link

ocean lance
#

only the sentry ones

#

i still haven'tg otten a decent mine run

prime musk
#

unfort

ocean lance
#

my best was a 34 but died on scan

prime musk
#

mm

ocean lance
#

but im so tilted by that run

prime musk
#

i can see that

#

i get tilted from getting close spawns during class 5 so

ocean lance
#

lmao

#

sometimes i swap to hel gun

#

and then i cry

prime musk
#

im going to finish a run with sentry before swapping to mines i think

ocean lance
#

i guess yeah see what time you can get

#

my sentry one is 38_40

prime musk
#

probably forced to pmom kill which is like 3 minute timeloss or something but eh

ocean lance
#

i had a lmao

#

on that run i only made her birth once

#

thought was insane

sleek drift
#

hi guys

#

me and my squad have been stuck on r2d2 for a long time now...

#

we currently hold on bridge with hel rifles but that only works for a few waves

tardy ingot
sleek drift
#

also we have 2 people on hel rifle one on the left and one on the right

hard nexus
#

Hold reactor

sleek drift
#

is there a specific area we should hold down or just the reactor area in general?

tardy ingot
sleek drift
#

how would you manage a 3 way? i don't know if my team can take that many sleepers at a time

tardy ingot
#

waves coming from behind shouldnt rly be too bad on bridge
you have 3 sentries so you can have 2 down forward, 1 backward. 1 person backwards and 3 forwards (2 go back if waves spawn from behind)

sleek drift
#

i see

tardy ingot
#

If you arent running out of ammo and dying due to that

#

but simply being overrun

#

then its just getting better at shooting

#

but its still up to what you are being overrun by

sleek drift
#

i don't think our shooting is that bad

tardy ingot
#

smalls, giants, hybrids?

sleek drift
#

we don't miss too many shots

sleek drift
tardy ingot
fathom ice
#

just split 2/2 on bridge

tardy ingot
# hard nexus yea, so?

many beginner groups are not fine holding an angle alone and their rotation game isnt great

sleek drift
fathom ice
#

with all sentries facing spawn

sleek drift
#

we have a person on burst cannon/sniper for the big guys and another on veruta mg

tardy ingot
sleek drift
#

for?

hard nexus
#

ive seen so many people being overrun on bridge

tardy ingot
fathom ice
#

anything

tardy ingot
#

stagger shooting and thus also reloads

fathom ice
#

it's just a bad gun

sleek drift
tardy ingot
#

it is

sleek drift
#

would a shotgun be better?

fathom ice
#

u want to kill stuff and not fc

tardy ingot
#

the veruta hate is overblown

fathom ice
#

cc

tardy ingot
#

but veruta is also at best support for when the hel rifles dont wanna shoot at smth

hard nexus
#

reactor tile is just very good

tardy ingot
#

so if your veruta player is randomly trying to go RATATATATA while hel rifles are getting shots in they are just wasting ammo

sleek drift
#

for sentries is it better to take 3 burst or 2 burst 1 sniper by the way?

sleek drift
tardy ingot
fathom ice
#

idk why but I want hcp

#

for some reason

hard nexus
#

hsp

sleek drift
fathom ice
#

das crazy

hard nexus
#

there is a scenario where 1 machinegun holds bridge on their own

tardy ingot
#

again sky
veruta isnt actually throwing

#

its how people play it that makes it throwing

hard nexus
#

and u guys hold reactor

fathom ice
#

it is borderline

tardy ingot
#

its not

#

shooting smalls with sniper is

fathom ice
#

grrr

fathom ice
tardy ingot
#

machine gun isnt great tho for r2d2 unless you are very smart with how you use it. But theres just many many better choices for the 1 job its ok at here

fathom ice
#

if u avoid damage it's worth trust

sleek drift
#

for veruta should you fire in bursts or sustain?

sleek drift
tardy ingot
#

veruta is basically only firing if stuff gets into close range

fathom ice
#

usually bursts

tardy ingot
#

realistically you can run other choices that are simpler to understand and do the same but easier/better

#

like high cal, combat shotgun -> as support to hel rifles killing most of the wave

#

but tbh it depends on your teams shooting skill

#

like if 1 guy with hel rifle can hold 70% of the wave alone

#

then the rest just need to cover + kill giants

sleek drift
tardy ingot
#

but if everyone is struggling with 30% of a wave its harder

tardy ingot
#

ammo balance well obviously

sleek drift
#

is there a way to funnel all the smalls into one line on bridge?

tardy ingot
sleek drift
#

we can reliably kill 2-3 smalls a shot with collats but i still feel like we're losing value

hard nexus
tardy ingot
hard nexus
#

in matchmaking there was a run with chinese dude who held spawn with shotgun sentry

tardy ingot
#

honestly you never know if people are cheating in MM

hard nexus
#

and we completed that without wipes

sleek drift
prime musk
#

i think i can hit a 37 or something maybe

hard nexus
#

he wasnt cheating

#

i ran like a few levels with him beforehand too, i was like dont takee shotgun sentry, he was like wdym ill show u

#

and show me he did

tardy ingot
#

yea

#

that doesnt rly sound well for them

prime musk
#

also this was with hel gun and hel gun is infinitely comfier for class 5

tardy ingot
#

shotgun sentry can unironically pop off randomly (ive seen it do good 1 in 20 cases)
but its inconsistent af and when it doesnt wanna do well, it legit doesnt do shit

hard nexus
#

i guess that was 1 in 20 case

#

because for the first 3 codes we held spawn and i shot my hel rifle like 3 times

#

pretty much after code 4 he was holding spawn on his own + 1 guy helped him, the other guy helped me hold reactor

#

it was like the smoothest r2d2 ive ever done

ocean lance
#

think i lost time on blood door

#

ah nvm on alarm

#

also pmom can be like not even one minute

safe cradle
civic wave
#

Does a wholesaler (the legitimate wholesalers/suppliers used by pharmacies) count as a drug lord?

safe cradle
soft crater
tardy ingot
soft crater
ocean spindle
# safe cradle

hey do u kknow about nicola samori? nicola samori is a painter that actually destroys his works to give them a new sense of depth and meaning it its actually really cool

jagged shore
# safe cradle

i've made a couple jokes to streamers and they briefly believed me
the first time i was trolling them on purpose, the other it was just a pure joking sarcasm and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but they did
first time, it was newbies on r1a1 kinda planning for the extract run after grabbing HSU, one of those ambient noises played where it sounds like a rock falling in the distance, and it startled them and they continued on. then i said "oh yeah if you're in the level too long it'll eventually cave in." and the guy thought for a little bit that they were on a real time crunch
the other time i was playing with people on r6d3, for some reason one of them seemed to not be taking fall damage when another was when taking the same paths and such, and i said he's got the feather fall boots on. i think they asked if that was a real thing and i said "yeah some pants cosmetics make you take less fall damage"
and next time we were in lobby they were asking which ones it was

tiny wyvern
# safe cradle

Does being baited into a stream and proceeding to absolutely melt down count?

burnt inlet
#

hey, quite new to GTFO and im playing with bots, is there a way to tell the bots to charge up a heavy attack/attack a big sleeper (dont know what they are called but require several heavy attacks) at the same time as me?

tiny wyvern
#

Also their melee choices don't matter

#

They'll always do the same attack

burnt inlet
#

oh ok ty

tiny wyvern
#

Their shots don't wake anything up btw

#

So Even if they shoot you can still stealth kill giants

burnt inlet
#

and if i shoot?

grizzled widget
tiny wyvern
#

With melee of course, your shots are loud

#

veruta or hel rifle

burnt inlet
#

isnt the scatter gun quite OP?

tiny wyvern
#

Well... bye bye

#

Usually for big clear bots get burst cannon

burnt inlet
#

true, currently i only have it equiped to me

tiny wyvern
#

Least likely to have collateral damage that way

burnt inlet
#

aighty tyty

tiny wyvern
#

You can tell them place down tools btw

minor fractal
#

Ngl

tiny wyvern
#

In case you didn't know

#

In the voice command section

minor fractal
#

Bot friendly fire is over-talked

#

Bots just aren't good at scatter

tiny wyvern
#

They're usually too far away right

minor fractal
#

Their AI has a huge affect on weapon effectiveness

burnt inlet
grizzled widget
tiny wyvern
#

The only ones they follow are the tool ones and glowstick throws I think

minor fractal
#

MP is probably not that bad tbh

burnt inlet
digital mural
#

With bots You can only tell them to
Follow someone
Pick up an OBJ item
Place a tool

minor fractal
#

I'm not sure what a bad bot Main would be, maybe slug or HEL Shotgun

#

They're not differentiated enough for there to be crazy outliers, I think.

grizzled widget
#

or do they spam it?

ocean spindle
#

mains that are bad for bots are anything short range as they go on line of sight

#

so they just end up wasting ammo

#

pistol should be fine

#

it staggers ok

burnt inlet
#

if i stealth kill a sleeper is it 100% guaranteed to not wake another one or how does that mechanic work?

fathom ice
#

if the other one is glowing it's a 50%

#

depends on melee

minor fractal
#

I'm leaning HEL Shotgun, because I would guess they don't aim the weapons very well, and it has big falloff

fathom ice
#

if they're too close to each other you'll get proxied

burnt inlet
tardy ingot
#

wtf

fathom ice
#

was it 40

fathom ice
#

idk what are u on about

tardy ingot
fathom ice
#

its 30 knife 40 spear/bat 50 hammer iirc

#

and if u don't kill it's 100% or smth

tardy ingot
#

knife is unique

fathom ice
minor fractal
#

You want to learn to chain kills, it's how you deal w/ proxy, and it makes stealth much safer if you learn how to force long-range and play around it properly.

fathom ice
#

tl dr hit head or back of the head

#

and keep slaying don't wait !!

minor fractal
#

Proxy and long-range both cause slow wake, and slow wake is even longer if you're behind the target (+ flanking gives you bonus damage).

burnt inlet
#

wait what loadout should i give the bots?

ocean spindle
#

bots work best with burst rifle, and for their special u can go a couple ways
u can have an mg which is the 'default' for them [preferably veruta], a burst cannon for more dmg but danger if ur on a duo or so for friendly fire

#

and if the levels very tight and corner-y u can give them shotguns but i would personally not

#

but some people swear by it

#

other guns as hel gun or HAR work ok

ocean spindle
#

on tools, bio is the best for bots as they ping amazingly, sentry is nice as its simple, they work ok for mines and kinda bad with foam

ocean spindle
#

nice to know

#

before getting 80 hp away

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
#

thats also fair, if ur starting out its nice to now that info, but do try to learn stealth as it is too and hear enemy screams for wave directions

#

eventually ull give a bio to a bot and u will be happy

burnt inlet
#

yea, currently i am decent at stealthing but i feel like coordinating with bots to hit giants is a bit iffy

#

im guessing melee doesnt matter that much?

ocean spindle
#

its funky- its a matter of practice to be able to stagger the giant as soon as possible, which does just kinda come from solo-ing giants urself and practicing
also cuz- i used bat but thats admittedly a niche option

#

uhh melee on bots doesnt matter, urs does

#

in bots it has the same numerical values no matter the melee

#

i give them knifes

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
#

yeah- tbh if its the only thing left, i just tend to shoot
in bots runs u are usually always the heavy weapons person as they dont do well with big dmg guns, so u usually have a hel rifle, a burst cannon, a high cal etc etc etc
so i pew

tiny wyvern
#

Don't do it from the front if you can help it

ocean spindle
#

if im not clear

tiny wyvern
#

Burst or sniper

#

Sniper needs long sightlines to compensate for long aim time

#

Burst is the best

#

Both are good

#

The other two not so much

ocean spindle
#

burst is the all rounder and the standart, the snipers good for long hallways and big enemies, auto is niche as it is the only one with back dmg and pen so it can be useful sometimes

#

shotgun exists

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
#

yeah thats usually my move

minor fractal
ocean spindle
#

dtr?

#

why dtr?

minor fractal
#

Long range, good breakpoints, bot burst cancel

#

Main argument against is just low body damage

#

All of the burst Mains are probably fine on bots in general, BC is the major difference in power.

ocean spindle
#

i feel like they would miss quite a bit, and also reload constantly as one of the problems on dtr is the low mag but- maybe its fine

#

i never tried it

burnt inlet
#

currently i have burst rifle, machinegun, burst sentry for two and the other one changes the special to burst canon and bio tracker

minor fractal
#

You don't want them dumping everything.

#

BC is their main killing power

minor fractal
burnt inlet
#

aight

fathom ice
#

burst rifle > rifle !!

ocean spindle
#

omg so true and real

#

i personally never got the bc hype but its been so long since i played my opinion on thats not worth it

#

i did it when it was 5 so with 3 i imagine they are a hella lot more consistent

burnt inlet
#

wait which one is BC?

minor fractal
#

Burst Cannon

burnt inlet
#

oh burst canon

ocean spindle
#

br burst rifle, bc burst cannom, har heavy assault rifle and dn deez nuts

#

:3

burnt inlet
#

is the heavy smg any good for me? (coming from r6)

minor fractal
ocean spindle
minor fractal
ocean spindle
#

its the best auto apart from a couple special cases

#

but its also not that far

prime musk
#

do bots even try to brush or is it just rng if it hits more than 1

ocean spindle
#

they burst cancel

prime musk
#

bots can burst cancel?

minor fractal
#

I think they do brush, it varies a lot.

#

They brush and cancel, yeah.

#

They're OG R4 pros

ocean spindle
#

can they brush my teeth

prime musk
#

why am i not allowed to cancel asdfkjldasfjk unfair

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
burnt inlet
prime musk
minor fractal
ocean spindle
#

but thats what bots are for

#

and u can always stagger a hybrid from afar

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
#

pro gaming tip, a hybrid staggers with ANY dmg once it starts shooting

#

so uh use that to ur advantage

minor fractal
#

^

#

Also helps Main shotguns

#

You just fire a shell off after attack starts

#

and look elsewhere

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
#

yeh its gaming

ocean spindle
burnt inlet
#

level*

ocean spindle
#

if level- no u havent

#

ksmdk

#

u will see them soon tho

#

sorry for spoils

prime musk
digital mural
#

SPOILER

ocean spindle
#

i didnt meant to i thought u were like after r1 KMSDKM

#

my bad

burnt inlet
ocean spindle
#

ah

#

i dont feel bad anymore

#

yayyy

burnt inlet
#

also im not one for stories except for like two games (until dawn and fnaf)

ocean spindle
#

fnaf the funny

burnt inlet
#

ok so BR + BC + burst senry for two bots and the other one DTR + BC + bio tracker

ocean spindle
#

shure
and u can rotate between mines or sentry, for most of r1 u dont need foam anyways

#

in r2 u can probs give mines to a bot and keep foam if needed

prime musk
#

br + bc + bs for 2 and dtr + bc + bt for the last one yes ( don't use these shorthands it's just funny that everything starts with b)

burnt inlet
#

foam im prolly gonna do myself, when i had one on the bots i never saw them use it

ocean spindle
#

i mean gotta use Q to do that

#

as per usual

burnt inlet
#

fair enough

#

also am i gonna encounter respawn rooms on the second level?

ocean spindle
#

nah

#

those come in way way later

#

u will forget they exist for a while

burnt inlet
#

oh ok, thought one of the rooms respawned

ocean spindle
#

on b1? probs didnt cleared it or forgor an enemy

#

or some other shenanigan

burnt inlet
#

prolly, i got that typa brain

#

is there a way to reliably hit two sleepers with one hit?

ocean spindle
#

uhhh yes? sort of

#

not very useful but eh, its just very weird to do as the hitbox of the melees do kinda what they want

#

u dont notice cuz hit goes kill, but it works weird

burnt inlet
#

aight

ocean spindle
#

there is a guide somewhere on youtube- i never watched it so im not sure how it is

#

i just know it exists

burnt inlet
#

yea i heard spiff or his friends do it

ocean spindle
#

double hits? oh one time out of an accident right

digital mural
#

Make your melee hitbox hit both of the enemies hit box

ocean spindle
#

eh u can do it "consistently" in stealth but its useless lmao

digital mural
#

Its not that useful ye

ocean spindle
#

well not useless just yeah not very good

#

like if u fail u can still kill the other anyway

burnt inlet
#

if i tell the bots to place down sentries and the sentries never shoot do they still reduce the % thingy?

hoary mason
#

why would they?

digital mural
#

They didnt shot

#

Ammo doesnt go poof

burnt inlet
#

fair enough

burnt inlet
hoary mason
#

Schrödinger's ammo lmao

burnt inlet
#

the artifacts are they for the story?

hoary mason
#

Not realy, you just collet them for boosters

burnt inlet
#

oh ok

hoary mason
#

.t boosters

digital mural
uneven gulchBOT
#

Boosters are chemical cocktails injected into your brain, that you might earn from The Warden by collecting artifacts of different rarities. They are temporary boosters that are meant to increase your chance of completing expeditions in The Complex. Some boosters require nothing to be activated, while others might have conditions that the prisoners must meet in order to reap its benefits, and other boosters might give you disadvantages in certain aspects. The worth of a artifact is determined by the so-called "artifact heat", which is different for each level and each person. The more artifacts you collect in an expedition, the more the heat will decrease, which means that replaying the same level will make the artifacts of that expedition less valuable for a while. Heat will automatically increase by playing another expedition.

digital mural
#

That took a long time

#

Wtf

hoary mason
#

which commands does bot even have hmm

burnt inlet
#

im guessing i wouldnt need it for the entire r1?

hoary mason
#

No you can complete all levels without equiping any boosters

tardy ingot
#

They exist solely to be an accessability feature for people who feel hardstuck/feel like they need the help

digital mural
#

Booster sometimes break entire levels gimmicks
Like R7C3 or R5E1

burnt inlet
#

meant more that a newbie shouldnt need it for r1

digital mural
#

Nope

grizzled widget