#gtfo-related-questions
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OG Rundowns. Alts are fine
Any tips on R1C1? After wathcing the wiki guide and failing 5 times on wave 8, I´m at a loss of words.
How does wave 8 kill you?
guessing the wave of hybrids + giants at end?
Could be lack of tool
get overwhelming amount of enemies + the extraction alarm enemy spawns
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand
the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.
when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.
when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).
this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.
if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.
What part is overwhelming, what resources, etc.
Wave 6 is much harder than 8
Are you fully clearing the wave before you start running
basicly half the enemies breach the lines and overrun everyone, one by one
no chance to "clear" in order to run
Where are You holding
Running out of sentry or meds?
partialy yes
we had 3x burst
Nice
bcs sniper didnt target anything
all turrets are set, but like displaced a bit
Use the 3rd for wave 6 and 8
other wise don’t use it
The extract wave doesn’t matter to much it is 3 enemies like every 15 seconds
It is just very surprising that wave 8 would overrun you, but literally none of the other waves would
It sounds like something else is going on
Like sentries running out because it's 3 down always
I think they are running out of tool and meds
how exactly do respawn rooms work? i know the enemies will respawn after you leave the room, but will it always be the same enemies, same amount, same location etc or does it vary?
Omg Sky
no'
Same enemies roughly same position different stance sometimes less enemies depending on on the room
alr thanks
enemeis can both swap location and what enemy spawns where can change too
2 rooms away they respawn, different stances sometimes, r8 has scripted ones so they might be weird
Sky misinfo
Crazy
Ask about the scripted ones btw if you're confused
They don’t respawn 2 rooms away it is 2 rooms away and different zone
Good idea
never seen
I think it might be limited to the same room or the same pod
Same pod is more likely
But it's very rare you will have a giant in a small pod in a respawn
It's just not something that happens in the game very much
also, is R5A2 overload possible in same run as secondary? ive only found 2 bulkhead keys, and 1 dc to put them in
Overload opens when you pick up the cargo
good luck
ah alright, objective stack was telling me to find a bulkhead key lol
Yeah there’s a few levels where Overload/Secondary sectors don’t have key to open them. Generally if there isn’t enough keys to go around between all objective doors it’s pretty safe to assume completing your current objective unlocks new objective.
Unless things get funky passed rundown 5. I haven’t made it that far.
Spoilers:
||There are also secondaries that include main: i.e. doing secondary also does main, since those secondaries skip secondary, for those levels there will not be enough bulk keys to do all objectives as well.||
can I ask If I can sent clips of my gameplay and If yes where?
Which guns are best for bots?
Burst rifle/machinegun
Main is up in the air, but you probably always give them BC tbh
It might be DTR best, but it's hard to tell just from feel
BC makes a major difference, though
Enables them to fight bosses w/ you, gives them a ton of clear speed, etc.
Good into all target types all around
i see i see
In theory, Veruta might help them conserve ammo more
But they will still spend ammo, and not do very much w/ it
I get it tho, that makes two of us
choke mod sg for the one who carries biotracker always
that's in my case tho, would love to hear any other suggestions
Dont give bots shotguns
They are uuuuh
Kinda dumb
And friendly fire hurts a lot too
So unless you want them to just spam shotgun and don't kill anything or get friendly fired to death it's on you
Choke has the issue that they will use the full RoF
But they don't get very good value from it
so shotguns is a no no
brr brr better🤔
how good is bot accuracy
Good enough to hit most of their shots
Better than pubs thats for sure
like, why not give them hel rifle? ammo economy? with random pen even decent acc will be enough for decent ammo economy no?
In my opinion is mostly a ammo issue
cuz they will pen through u with the hel rifle probs
same goes for every 30 dmg gun
u dont notice at all the ff with a mg but u do with everything else
getting hit by the bots is a skill issue tbh
like keep track of enemies and bots and don't be between them
FF is a lot more common than people think at first
tell that to the bot that isnt even following me
but that follows my duo partner
ff in duos is the most common thing ever
Even if You are not trying to get in front they sometimes get behind you and shoot you for no reason
specially in red scans
Yep
in solos it is so uncommon u might not even lnow they have friendly fire
on duos
u get shot
a lot
I have múltiple times where i'm waiting for a door to be broken
And uh oh fucking Dauda just melts my back
even with a machinegun those fuckers are dangerous

the other half of not using hel rifle reasons is just they wont use pen but that is sort of a nothing sandwich, also it sort of affects their time to kill since they dont really shoot fast with it, and they will do the entire animation of the reload which is also a problem with the mg
but at least then they have 60 bullets
to kill some smalls
if ur dropping into idk r5b3 then probs a hel rifles better but needs testing
i remember someone did a wholeee umm excel page with accuracy mod and 3 bots on r1c1 to check the best guns
HAR ended up on top
but that was like on alt r2 times
Bots with HAR would go wild if it wasnt for the ammo
eh for my experience they might be the first ones to run out but not that far behind an mg bot
har has ammo issues but its not the ammo-drain-piece-of-shit it seems
men and women*
no u dont
u like women only if they represent men
thats so gay of you
Yeah as the babysitter of the bot on my team (we’re usually a trio) I can firmly agree that it’s mostly about hoping they can’t kill you. Bot with a shotgun is pretty cool except they don’t seem to actually use engagement ranges for guns? They waste ammo and then on scans they walk behind you for no reason and then shoot at an enemy that just spawned two rooms away, dealing like half your health bar for free.
And then my second favorite thing is when you gove them a gun like Hel Rifle or some other low ammo combo they run out of ammo during scans an whatnot and now sprint at everything they see with a hammer so they can say they’re still helping out.
does anyone know if the little red dots on the scanner are actually "senstive" sleepers or if its a visual bug? i've heard both
how viable is it to play the game as a duo? i only have 1 friend and MM seems kinda low pop (and we are both new and dont want to grief anyone), especially on the lower rundowns
I recommend using 2 bots
Duo in this game is really hard without prior experience
Also we have LFG
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
my experience with MMO's,L4D, and PD2 has made me default assume that LFG is hostile to new/inexperienced players for the most part, is that not the case here?
No its not
okay cool, last question. while playing R1A1 i had a big black blob cover 80% of my screen, i did a bit of googling and it seems that was something refered to as "the liquid bug" that seems to be more common for some people than others is that just something im gonna have to deal with or is there a known fix for it? i didnt see one while poking around forums
It goes away by itself
And no, you can't fix it
It just happens
damm aight
id just recommend always making sure that everyone in ur lobby is in ur vc even if muted, and always ask to not be carried
is high caliber pistol good?
Yep
Use dtr/hel revolver and veruta/bc on bots
Is a good choice for almost everything
One shot smalls
Decent against big enemies
Even useful against scouts
Its the best if You want an all rounder thats easy to use
slug shotty and HCP goes hard
Fun quick swap loadout
Too bad i miss 50% of my HCP mag
which one is slug shotty
main slot
i do
i wanna use heavy submachine gun with combat shotgun
i just like the sight
Yeah that should be viable for at least most of early gtfo
Your taste might change when things get harder
CS is very solid tho
People do like HSMG
but in harder floors it gets worse right
so how do people deal with crowd control in harder waves
Kinda sorta
It's moreso the fact that Hel weapons just outpace most other weapons if you can use em tbh
im bad with helgun
and i dont like it aswell even if i can learn it
i rather use dmr
Like straight up Hel Gun? It's a headshot weapon tbh.
If you can use DMR you can use HG imo
yeah i dont like the sight
I love it ngl
solid main, but no one talks about it
Burst Pistol is one of the only weapons I personally refuse to use.
not burst pistol
Oh, Carbine?
yes
Very solid, possibly the most effective "pick up and use" gun in GTFO
There is 4 burst guns in mains
carbine
Burst rifle, Carbine, DTR and Burst pisotl
Tbh I forgot to mentally classify DTR as a burst weapon
LMAO
i lost half of my breathe typing that
Yeah Carbine is a really good gun
It's like, the easiest to use gun in GTFO
I genuinely think you can give Carbine to anyone and they'll do pretty alright with it.
Hel Shotgun penetrates enemies
Hel shotgun staggers and pen but has more spread
It's as good at killing 20 dudes as it is at killing 2 if they're all close enough together
Combat shotgun doesnt have much spread but cant stagger as easily and cant pen
Love Hel Shotgun, it's super super close range tho
im better at using combat shotgun than hel shotgun
Most people don't like HelShotty till they get really comfortable with it
Combat shotgun is easier to use
I don't know anyone who just picked up HS the first time and loved it tbh
no its the hipfire that makes it weird
it has different feeling than combat shotgun
but i do love those kind of shotguns
HS is a street sweeper tbh
if i use helshotgun with high caliber pistool is it goooooodddd?
what is hs
I thought i could kill a scout with a single bullet at a semi short distance
Missed most of my Pellets and then hated on the gun for like my next 100 hours
Hel Shotgun
oh my god why are u calling hel shotgun hs
I like it, fun loadout.
highschooler
Yes, it's a half-sweaty half-comfort loadout
^
Aint no way we are using highschoolers in GTFO now
balanced as things should be
Same reason High Cal is HCP, and BC is BC, and HG is HG
no one calls hel gun hg
I don't care
I was going to ask what does HG means
if only HS didnt conflict with other things
You knew what it meant so like, clearly it didn't matter
If only you had the higher brain power to contextualize a convo, damn
Chilllllll
Highgschooler
beth you didn't control for long range aggro again
true
do we need a brain in this game
shouldve done that
no
It certainly helps but no, only 1 person per team of 4 needs a brain.
Unironically if 3 people can shoot and 1 person knows the level you'll get knowledge carried
i play at random floors so i forgor what i was doing
i was told to carry a fusion battery and run
Thanks, came from Eva
for the whole 30 mins
It happens lmao
Sky
We have been having weird and shit takes for the past month
You just noticed it?
Eva Elfie?
Nah, you'll see em around at some point
we have many eva
Should I know about this person
Not that one
No
an actress
Don't Google it
very famous actress
Not famous enough apparently
Good content
But thats off topic
do quick chat commands actually do anything for the bots? (like the synchronize/count down ones for stealth, IK you have to use the quick chat to tell them to use their gadgets)
Yes
okay
She is pretty famous
Tbh I'm kinda out of uh, knowledge base on most of that genre of actor/ess
so whats the diff between hel revolver and high caliber pistol?
both gun are pewpew with high damage right
no
Very different tbh
nah
8 dmg main vs 30 dmg special lool
With bots You can only tell them:
Use a tool
Follow someone
Pick up an OBJ item
^
You'll never guess based off these numbers which is better
wdym
8 is bigger than 30 in modulo 5
wait which hel revolver is good?
the heavy revolver or the revolver
??
Hel Revolver is the primary
we have 2 revolvers right
There is only one hel revolver
one hel revolver and one revolver
The Revolver special is a bit like HCP but it favors headshots drastically
Yes
2 revolvers
One is the hel revolver
And the other is a revolver
it's generally not a good idea to compare main weapons and special weapons first off
Yeah, totally different niches
but what if it was golf rules
What is "modulo 5"
remainder when u devide by 5
Oh yeah nah, you can keep that stuff
okay can we do a comparison on high caliber pistol with hel revolver and revolver

no
You can compare HCP and Revolver better then if you also include Hel Revo
2 specials and one main
hcp is a giant/charger clear, revo is smalls wave clear, hel revo is universal
with revolver yes, with hel revo no
why
hel revo is a main and others are both specials
Because comparing a Main and a special doesnt work
I think I normally use Hel revo and HAR on bot loadout but I can switch HAR.
2 different types of guns
HCP is also a good panic button if you can aim tbh, it will just delete 6 small enemies infront of you if you need it to
pistol
sold
im gonna piss on you
i love panic button
I only picked it because it doesn’t one shot my back.
i just wanna see if im gonna use hel revolver or HCP
both
revolver and pistol are not the same akshually 🤓
wdym by doesnt one shot my back
You can unironically use both
Whats the difference
:)
i just wnana see if i should use hel shotgun and HCP or hel revolver and combat shotgun
The rolling cylinder?
something about the way the rounds are loaded
i dont remember tbh
The cilynder
It was about the guns that bots use because they are probe to shooting you if you’re in their way.
but isnt friendly fire disabled?
no
this is why scatter is the best
it one shots ur teammates
all guns will do double their base dmg to freindlies
the 2 ammo shotgun right?
yes
in scatter's case thats over 300 dmg :3
the fuck everything infront of me gun right?
yes
lf1 r4e1 duo
crazy
okay so whats so good about the normal shotgun?
I haven't slept
??
i can tell
...
just a good general weapon
its a good flex weapon
since it requires skill?
na
good at killing normals and decent boss dmg
i do
who are you
Lining up balls takes some skill
rushing towards 10 sleepers just to kill 1 giant
ig
also are u actually serious i cant tell
then die for the most parts
i mean im half awake
I'll try not to fall asleep in reactor
perfect combo right
Why are we talking about balls?
i still need a better r4e1 duo for my yt
ill carry ur ass
not on 350
u like have to predict so much more
its pretty easy
ur defending
NOOOOOOOOO
idk i feel pain on 200 already
i've played 1500 hours of 300 ping
im chilling
i'm sorry for ur loss
i still cant believe you were playing abberation on that kind of ping
eh its wasnt bad
im so used to knowing how to dodge licks
hafu?
na we had hani host
i get 400 ping on hafumi host
mb less
no
denmark
craaaaaazy
ah damn
uk is better than denmark for sure
We go for sub hour
can i get carried
yeah that's crazy
well it wasnt unplayable but idk
maybe i just suck 2 much i cant play on that ping xd
okay white name
150 feels like a christmas miracle
LMAO
starting to think im a bad influence
smh
L
OL
Get scouts are friends then talk to me
i'm not messaging mods
ive seen you kill scouts your role is a lie anyways smh
im putting them down
they had cancer anyway
trust we don't kill scouts
what she said
they are friends
INCHES?
okay white name
execuses
COCKS?
LMAO
i am now regretting my choice of words
that gives off funz vibes
that guy is bad
This is so gay
gay and lesbian
sky carry when?
never
sky should be blue not red
oh well
sky u need to assemble your speed team
your team captain
choose from the masses of unsigned speed players
making a static grrr
I can't complain that I don't have a static then
that's no fun
smh
i have a static for all speeds except e tiers and the shit people dont wanna run
😔
its a sad sad day
Unfortunately im a pub
Not good enough to find a static team
(Are e tiers just volatile, or do people just don't like them?)
not a lot of people run them
Better than a static Team with 3 Trolls and a drunkard LMAO
@lone mortar Love you pookie

dumbass question, but is there a consistent way to dodge lick attacks, still figuring stuff out and I've been struggling the most with those
walk sideway pretty consistent when you are host
host really makes a lot of stuff easier to be honest
i can't believe r3d1 solo speeds are miserable
reset to get 389 so half runs are dead before starting
get no ammo or med in the class 6 room so forced to backtrack because rng sucks
get to class 5 and get fucked by close/split spawns
the class 5 is def the chokepoint of the run but error is just inconsistent because resource rng
why do you reset for 389 
390 is infinitely worse especially solo
390 fucks scans so enemies path through the middle or the room and shit
getting the key is just worse too because it's an extra room deep
the extra room doesnt rly matter
as long as you dont go into 390 E you are same speed overall and you avoid just as many enemies as you would in 389 usually
ah yes
390 E waking up
(thats the ending room which youd need to get an error to spawn inside in for that to happen)
maybe 390E doesn't wake but it's like irrelevant
every room you are running through is waking is my point
yea but then this doesnt rly apply no?
it does because you can't really open doors and fight at same time
maybe it's my skill issue
i just can't push through rooms and open doors
without killing first
whatever the case the bigger reason is the alarm
alarm to 390 is just worse
significantly worse
i see
i have been running sawed off bc burst sentry
390 alarm doesn't really have any good sentry spots
oh you just full send through pmom and don't kill her even?
idk what splits are but i pulled class 5 at 19:30 on my best run
You Just clear the Babies, the cooldown is Long enough to extract
yeah that's what i meant
idk sentry is just slower in general
yeah that's completely a skill issue XD
carries is maybe an overstatement but i'd struggle without it i think
yeah the alarms are pretty rough solo without sentry
but you're not gonna get a better time with sentry than with mine that's the thing
the class 3 and class 6 are probably fine if i have the ammo
but man the class 5 fdsksdf
might try running hel gun just to make alarms better
Imho sentry is better for your mental health, since you dont have to Deal with Billion shooters
with sentry 3 use iis probably enough
yeah but you're not getting a better time than mine
3 use is enough if you don't get close spawns several times
you know what's fucked?
apex alarm for charger room
without sentry
close spawn and scan is on the first big door?
you're fucked
mine the door before pulling alarm or what?
yeah
1 close spawn is fine multiple is awful
also im assuming charger zone is just stealth?
worth taking hammer for the occasional charger kill or just knife
Wdym? Just shooter cap
i have been yeah
👍
but mine is miserable thats true
giving up sawed off for scatter is just not worth
(as in taking main that can kill shooters)
i got 2 decent runs that were on pace for 35
die to pmom cause she justruns into me
for no fucking reason
unfort
my best was a 34 but died on scan
mm
but im so tilted by that run
im going to finish a run with sentry before swapping to mines i think
probably forced to pmom kill which is like 3 minute timeloss or something but eh
hi guys
me and my squad have been stuck on r2d2 for a long time now...
we currently hold on bridge with hel rifles but that only works for a few waves
why only for a few waves?
also while hel rifles are obviously rly strong, stacking (and shooting at the same time) is realistically just overshooting into the same targets
when we go into other zones for codes the wave starts to come from behind because of the open doors
also we have 2 people on hel rifle one on the left and one on the right
Hold reactor
is there a specific area we should hold down or just the reactor area in general?
this is an option, but you will have to start a 3 way hold after code 4
how would you manage a 3 way? i don't know if my team can take that many sleepers at a time
waves coming from behind shouldnt rly be too bad on bridge
you have 3 sentries so you can have 2 down forward, 1 backward. 1 person backwards and 3 forwards (2 go back if waves spawn from behind)
i see
If you arent running out of ammo and dying due to that
but simply being overrun
then its just getting better at shooting
but its still up to what you are being overrun by
i don't think our shooting is that bad
smalls, giants, hybrids?
we don't miss too many shots
yea, so?
usually it's when we are reloading or go to refill turrets
Well, if you are dying with 2+ hel rifles and team fire + sentries then... probably not that good
just split 2/2 on bridge
many beginner groups are not fine holding an angle alone and their rotation game isnt great
what other 2 weapons should we take?
with all sentries facing spawn
we have a person on burst cannon/sniper for the big guys and another on veruta mg
burst cannon is nice for giants/hybrids. But R2D2 sniper CAN work if your sniper guy does hit heads (specifically for hybrids its a nice choice)
swap veruta
for?
ive seen so many people being overrun on bridge
honestly it really feels like your team is just shooting at the same targets at the same time
anything
stagger shooting and thus also reloads
it's just a bad gun
ah, thats probably what's up
i thought it was pretty good for cc no?
it is
would a shotgun be better?
u want to kill stuff and not fc
the veruta hate is overblown
cc
but i think i agree
but veruta is also at best support for when the hel rifles dont wanna shoot at smth
reactor tile is just very good
so if your veruta player is randomly trying to go RATATATATA while hel rifles are getting shots in they are just wasting ammo
for sentries is it better to take 3 burst or 2 burst 1 sniper by the way?
i see so veruta should shoot when hel rifles aren't
it is
2 really strong lines and south is also ok to be held
hsp
i mean, our veruta person is pretty interchangeable, it's just that we find veruta usually delivers the best results
das crazy
there is a scenario where 1 machinegun holds bridge on their own
again sky
veruta isnt actually throwing
its how people play it that makes it throwing
and u guys hold reactor
it is borderline
grrr
ngl not always
machine gun isnt great tho for r2d2 unless you are very smart with how you use it. But theres just many many better choices for the 1 job its ok at here
if u avoid damage it's worth trust
for veruta should you fire in bursts or sustain?
alright, what would you recommend?
veruta is basically only firing if stuff gets into close range
usually bursts
realistically you can run other choices that are simpler to understand and do the same but easier/better
like high cal, combat shotgun -> as support to hel rifles killing most of the wave
but tbh it depends on your teams shooting skill
like if 1 guy with hel rifle can hold 70% of the wave alone
then the rest just need to cover + kill giants
for hcp and shotguns, should those be used to kill smalls that get past hel rifles?
but if everyone is struggling with 30% of a wave its harder
thats the idea yes
ammo balance well obviously
is there a way to funnel all the smalls into one line on bridge?
if machine gun holds bridge then the player could also just more easily do so with hel rifle ngl
we can reliably kill 2-3 smalls a shot with collats but i still feel like we're losing value
i mean idk im just reciting runs ive had
you arent
hel rifle only killing 1 enemy per shot is still standard efficiency rly
in matchmaking there was a run with chinese dude who held spawn with shotgun sentry
shotgun sentry lol
honestly you never know if people are cheating in MM
and we completed that without wipes
i don't think our team is anywhere near as good lol
woke first charger room while walking from scout didn't really have a choice, time was like 26 min i believe? 27 maybe?
alarm is 3 min pmom 4 min and i have a little bit of leeway for rest of charger + looting
i think i can hit a 37 or something maybe
if you are looking for it, its very noticeable
he wasnt cheating
i ran like a few levels with him beforehand too, i was like dont takee shotgun sentry, he was like wdym ill show u
and show me he did
also this was with hel gun and hel gun is infinitely comfier for class 5
shotgun sentry can unironically pop off randomly (ive seen it do good 1 in 20 cases)
but its inconsistent af and when it doesnt wanna do well, it legit doesnt do shit
i guess that was 1 in 20 case
because for the first 3 codes we held spawn and i shot my hel rifle like 3 times
pretty much after code 4 he was holding spawn on his own + 1 guy helped him, the other guy helped me hold reactor
it was like the smoothest r2d2 ive ever done
i open apex at around 24:50 on my run
think i lost time on blood door
ah nvm on alarm
also pmom can be like not even one minute
Does a wholesaler (the legitimate wholesalers/suppliers used by pharmacies) count as a drug lord?
Depends on if the wholesaler is a noble.
Where's the "Wow. Toxic"

hey do u kknow about nicola samori? nicola samori is a painter that actually destroys his works to give them a new sense of depth and meaning it its actually really cool
i've made a couple jokes to streamers and they briefly believed me
the first time i was trolling them on purpose, the other it was just a pure joking sarcasm and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but they did
first time, it was newbies on r1a1 kinda planning for the extract run after grabbing HSU, one of those ambient noises played where it sounds like a rock falling in the distance, and it startled them and they continued on. then i said "oh yeah if you're in the level too long it'll eventually cave in." and the guy thought for a little bit that they were on a real time crunch
the other time i was playing with people on r6d3, for some reason one of them seemed to not be taking fall damage when another was when taking the same paths and such, and i said he's got the feather fall boots on. i think they asked if that was a real thing and i said "yeah some pants cosmetics make you take less fall damage"
and next time we were in lobby they were asking which ones it was
Does being baited into a stream and proceeding to absolutely melt down count?
hey, quite new to GTFO and im playing with bots, is there a way to tell the bots to charge up a heavy attack/attack a big sleeper (dont know what they are called but require several heavy attacks) at the same time as me?
No
Also their melee choices don't matter
They'll always do the same attack
oh ok ty
Their shots don't wake anything up btw
So Even if they shoot you can still stealth kill giants
and if i shoot?
what is the most obnoxious weapon to give the bots?
isnt the scatter gun quite OP?
Yes, but it shoots in a cone
If you give it to a bot
And you are in the cone
Well... bye bye
Usually for big clear bots get burst cannon
true, currently i only have it equiped to me
Least likely to have collateral damage that way
aighty tyty
You can tell them place down tools btw
Ngl
They're usually too far away right
Their AI has a huge affect on weapon effectiveness
i mean i use stuff in the sneaking section but i wasnt sure if they actually followed any orders
machinepistol?
The only ones they follow are the tool ones and glowstick throws I think
Choke and Revo are p bad on bots.
MP is probably not that bad tbh
oh ok, im guessing there isnt a way to tell them to search a room once its clear (for stuff like supply closets)?
With bots You can only tell them to
Follow someone
Pick up an OBJ item
Place a tool
I'm not sure what a bad bot Main would be, maybe slug or HEL Shotgun
They're not differentiated enough for there to be crazy outliers, I think.
normal pistol for dps reasons?
or do they spam it?
mains that are bad for bots are anything short range as they go on line of sight
so they just end up wasting ammo
pistol should be fine
it staggers ok
if i stealth kill a sleeper is it 100% guaranteed to not wake another one or how does that mechanic work?
I'm leaning HEL Shotgun, because I would guess they don't aim the weapons very well, and it has big falloff
if they're too close to each other you'll get proxied
am using spear and usually heavy attacks
was it 40
literally long range
idk what are u on about
@burnt inlet #guides-and-reviews message watch this ngl
knife is unique
it's the least just having it in mind ig
If enemies are very close, proxy aggro will always happen.
It's RNG for long-range, unless you force it to wake and then it's 100% for long-range.
If long-range occurs and no proxy has occured, it will wake the nearest glowing sleeper with LoS within 13m. If there are none, then nothing happens.
You want to learn to chain kills, it's how you deal w/ proxy, and it makes stealth much safer if you learn how to force long-range and play around it properly.
Proxy and long-range both cause slow wake, and slow wake is even longer if you're behind the target (+ flanking gives you bonus damage).
wait what loadout should i give the bots?
bots work best with burst rifle, and for their special u can go a couple ways
u can have an mg which is the 'default' for them [preferably veruta], a burst cannon for more dmg but danger if ur on a duo or so for friendly fire
and if the levels very tight and corner-y u can give them shotguns but i would personally not
but some people swear by it
other guns as hel gun or HAR work ok
im playing solo
on tools, bio is the best for bots as they ping amazingly, sentry is nice as its simple, they work ok for mines and kinda bad with foam
yeah but just in case if u ever get a teammate via lfg or something
nice to know
before getting 80 hp away
i have it for me so i know where stealths are
thats also fair, if ur starting out its nice to now that info, but do try to learn stealth as it is too and hear enemy screams for wave directions
eventually ull give a bio to a bot and u will be happy
yea, currently i am decent at stealthing but i feel like coordinating with bots to hit giants is a bit iffy
im guessing melee doesnt matter that much?
its funky- its a matter of practice to be able to stagger the giant as soon as possible, which does just kinda come from solo-ing giants urself and practicing
also cuz- i used bat but thats admittedly a niche option
uhh melee on bots doesnt matter, urs does
in bots it has the same numerical values no matter the melee
i give them knifes
yea, i can do giants alone if im behind them but if im in front im a bit iffy
yeah- tbh if its the only thing left, i just tend to shoot
in bots runs u are usually always the heavy weapons person as they dont do well with big dmg guns, so u usually have a hel rifle, a burst cannon, a high cal etc etc etc
so i pew
Don't do it from the front if you can help it
if im not clear
whats a good sentry?
Burst or sniper
Sniper needs long sightlines to compensate for long aim time
Burst is the best
Both are good
The other two not so much
burst is the all rounder and the standart, the snipers good for long hallways and big enemies, auto is niche as it is the only one with back dmg and pen so it can be useful sometimes
shotgun exists
was in a situation where two were having their backs towards each other, tbf shouldve left them for last and jsut scatter them
yeah thats usually my move
DTR + BC or Burst Rifle + BC
Long range, good breakpoints, bot burst cancel
Main argument against is just low body damage
All of the burst Mains are probably fine on bots in general, BC is the major difference in power.
i feel like they would miss quite a bit, and also reload constantly as one of the problems on dtr is the low mag but- maybe its fine
i never tried it
Reloading is good
currently i have burst rifle, machinegun, burst sentry for two and the other one changes the special to burst canon and bio tracker
Just give them all BC, ngl.
aight
burst rifle > rifle !!
omg so true and real
i personally never got the bc hype but its been so long since i played my opinion on thats not worth it
i did it when it was 5 so with 3 i imagine they are a hella lot more consistent
wait which one is BC?
Burst Cannon
oh burst canon
is the heavy smg any good for me? (coming from r6)
Tbh I'm not sure if it's changed much since BC has also received ammo nerfs, but it does prevent situations where bots miss a burst and fire all 5 shots at nothing.
its fine
It's not a good weapon, no. Sawed-Off is generally the way to go for solos.
do bots even try to brush or is it just rng if it hits more than 1
they burst cancel
bots can burst cancel?
I think they do brush, it varies a lot.
They brush and cancel, yeah.
They're OG R4 pros
can they brush my teeth
why am i not allowed to cancel asdfkjldasfjk unfair
sawed off and scatter? dont i lack in medium/long ranged encounters?
:3 be a bot
frame one rez incoming
i am equivalent in skill but it doesn't help
It doesn't matter, Sawed-Off provides a huge amount of power, and if you really need to fight something far away you just dump ammo until it dies.
enemies run to u so unless u have a hybrid in the very back of a wave u dont really struggle ever
but thats what bots are for
and u can always stagger a hybrid from afar
fair enough
fair, could also let bots handle it
pro gaming tip, a hybrid staggers with ANY dmg once it starts shooting
so uh use that to ur advantage
^
Also helps Main shotguns
You just fire a shell off after attack starts
and look elsewhere
dont know if ive encountered one yet, only on my second rundown
yeh its gaming
rundown or level?
level*
first appearance is r1c1.
SPOILER
i watched all of spiggs gtfo vids 💀
also im not one for stories except for like two games (until dawn and fnaf)
fnaf the funny
ok so BR + BC + burst senry for two bots and the other one DTR + BC + bio tracker
shure
and u can rotate between mines or sentry, for most of r1 u dont need foam anyways
in r2 u can probs give mines to a bot and keep foam if needed
br + bc + bs for 2 and dtr + bc + bt for the last one yes ( don't use these shorthands it's just funny that everything starts with b)
foam im prolly gonna do myself, when i had one on the bots i never saw them use it
oh ok, thought one of the rooms respawned
prolly, i got that typa brain
is there a way to reliably hit two sleepers with one hit?
uhhh yes? sort of
not very useful but eh, its just very weird to do as the hitbox of the melees do kinda what they want
u dont notice cuz hit goes kill, but it works weird
aight
there is a guide somewhere on youtube- i never watched it so im not sure how it is
i just know it exists
yea i heard spiff or his friends do it
double hits? oh one time out of an accident right
Make your melee hitbox hit both of the enemies hit box
eh u can do it "consistently" in stealth but its useless lmao
Its not that useful ye
well not useless just yeah not very good
like if u fail u can still kill the other anyway
if i tell the bots to place down sentries and the sentries never shoot do they still reduce the % thingy?
why would they?
No
They didnt shot
Ammo doesnt go poof
fair enough
make it so that u cant just deploy them everywher
Schrödinger's ammo lmao
the artifacts are they for the story?
Not realy, you just collet them for boosters
oh ok
1% artifact progress = booster
Boosters are chemical cocktails injected into your brain, that you might earn from The Warden by collecting artifacts of different rarities. They are temporary boosters that are meant to increase your chance of completing expeditions in The Complex. Some boosters require nothing to be activated, while others might have conditions that the prisoners must meet in order to reap its benefits, and other boosters might give you disadvantages in certain aspects. The worth of a artifact is determined by the so-called "artifact heat", which is different for each level and each person. The more artifacts you collect in an expedition, the more the heat will decrease, which means that replaying the same level will make the artifacts of that expedition less valuable for a while. Heat will automatically increase by playing another expedition.
which commands does bot even have hmm
im guessing i wouldnt need it for the entire r1?
No you can complete all levels without equiping any boosters
Not a single level is designed with boosters in mind
They exist solely to be an accessability feature for people who feel hardstuck/feel like they need the help
Booster sometimes break entire levels gimmicks
Like R7C3 or R5E1
meant more that a newbie shouldnt need it for r1
Nope
max infection resist.

