gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

really- lore is difficult, whatever u can try understand now keep on at it

[gusty aurora]

i suppose that's what the log from the radio host about the mandela effect is building up to

[ocean spindle]

and when u reach further ahead u might start getting questions answered

and if not u can always ask before starting R8- which is the lore heavy rundown

[ocean spindle]

teehee

[gusty aurora]

cool, thank y'all

a funny side note, there's that one log from gallus hammerstein about how he's so great and everyone else sucks, and then the next log misspells his name as gallius hammerstein 💀

[ocean spindle]

he just a silly billy :3

[wild flare]

D1 probably not

lvl is massive ( esp with secondary ), but not hard at all

D2 tho yeah

[hard nexus]

d2 with randoms is insane

d2 with a stack is fine like anywhere between 1st-3rd try

[modest monolith]

well

any level with randoms is beyond insane...

😳

[hard nexus]

its variable

[modest monolith]

unless you got some good randos

but it's super rare

[hard nexus]

its not super rare its super random who u get

usually i just friend cracked players or meet peeps in mm that eventually become cracked

r8b4 sec is the only completion i did in lfg

[modest monolith]

dang

[grizzled patrol]

Funny enough Out of all Missions, i completed D2 with ingame MM

[hard nexus]

same, but only main so far

[modest monolith]

r5d2 has no main btw

[hard nexus]

oh

sorry

my bad

[modest monolith]

r5d1, yes

[hard nexus]

i meant r8d2

pre r8 i had a stack we did all missions 2gether with

but i did happen to try r5d2 in mm last year

its pretty crazy

[grizzled patrol]

I will be free in Like 20-30 minutes, will Ping you for D2

[modest monolith]

r8d2 is kinda funny. Cuz it's not way too complicated but people tends to screw things up by themselves and complain how challenging it is.

[hard nexus]

8d2?

[grizzled patrol]

9D2 obv

[hard nexus]

fuck i gotta go poop then

[modest monolith]

let me clean your a*s

[hard nexus]

my ass is mine to clean

[modest monolith]

sadge

[grizzled patrol]

What are you going to do with that Vacuum cleaner?

[modest monolith]

clean out dirts from you ?

from top to bottom ?

[hard nexus]

Just like cx

[modest monolith]

666

36

29 ?

cx = s*x ?

[hard nexus]

R6cx

[modest monolith]

oh

my dirty filthy mind

forgive my rudeness

[hard nexus]

welp

matchmaking is dead

[halcyon current]

Hypothetically I could put one up but I'm still drinking coffee and idk if R4D2 PE is a morning vibe

[hard nexus]

its almost 9pm

[frail heart]

R5D1

[halcyon current]

5am here

[halcyon current]

Nah, not that far yet

[hard nexus]

r4d2 is honestly fine

cool level

[halcyon current]

I've never done it fwiw

PE fucked up or nah?

[hard nexus]

nah just dont grab the box after overload is done i guess

main gradually increases in fucked up

[halcyon current]

That sounds familiar, maybe I've fucked this up once before

[hard nexus]

if you are not in r5 idk how to describe it

[halcyon current]

I meant R4D2 PE fwiw

[hard nexus]

remember how in r3a1 if u put baby in it starts error

i know

[halcyon current]

Yeah

Box is same concept?

[hard nexus]

its like that but fucked up if u grab box

[halcyon current]

Yeah I defo did this before and just fucked it then

[hard nexus]

it increases spawns if u drop the box on the ground iirc

[halcyon current]

Cause I vaguely remember this whole set up being explained to me before

[hard nexus]

thats why u do everything except last main door

grab the box and get out

or i guess u could do last main door, just dont open it

[halcyon current]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

To be honest

Whatever happens happens

[frail heart]

No the error stays the same

[halcyon current]

I'll either kill em all or I won't, ykwim?

[frail heart]

For the whole thing

[hard nexus]

ok misinfo then

[frail heart]

Yeah you just clear everything then go back and grab it

[hard nexus]

its infinite error so no

[halcyon current]

It's only infinite till you extract

Then it stops

[frail heart]

That’s huge brain right there

[halcyon current]

Simple logic, really

I only gotta kill shit till I extract

[frail heart]

Enemies can’t kill you if you extract

[halcyon current]

Exactly

Just extract

[frail heart]

[halcyon current]

The mission is easy

You just extract and you win

[frail heart]

What about r8e1

[halcyon current]

Never done it but like

I've played a couple of missions in GTFO

And so far they're pretty simple, you extract and it's done

[frail heart]

Go play e1

[halcyon current]

I literally can't lmao

[hard nexus]

nah mate the fucking box is annoying

[frail heart]

Not with that mindset

[hard nexus]

every time i have to bring a fucking box

6c2 my beloved

[frail heart]

Luckily there’s no carrying in r8e1

[hard nexus]

well there is

[halcyon current]

Maybe a fun little R4C3 PE?

[hard nexus]

just not a box

7c3*

[frail heart]

No carrying needed when it’s c tier difficulty lmao

[halcyon current]

I think I am a fan of R4 overall

It feels like The First Real Rundown

R1-3 sans like R2E1 felt like one giant tutorial in comparison

[frail heart]

R4 is a weaker rundown

It has some good levels

But some not good ones

Same with r5

[wild flare]

r4 is too dragged with all of those PE

[halcyon current]

Tbh I've gone in order thus far, so having PEs is a nice way to freshen things up tbh

I conceptually like having optional side OBJs that make the game drastically more interesting

[hard nexus]

ud be surprised

u dont press matchmake

[frail heart]

Ur not helping ur case

[safe cradle]

Not sure what you guys are talking about

R4D2 IIRC does spawn chargers if you drop the box

Of course unless shadows spawncap already

Or perhaps was it the extraction alarm that spawns chargers? Cant fully remember and I did that shit like 3 times PE.

To be fair there ain't much reason to drop the cargo, the shadows are not much of an issue even with 3 people shooting instead of 4

[wild flare]

no

extraction alarm spawn chargers

i doubt, that dropping box increases spawn of shadows, its just they spawn so fast so it doesnt matter anyway, i got downed omw to extraction at least once, got 1 or 2 extra error waves because of it, because need some time for reviving

[hard nexus]

i remember reading that somewhere

either misinfo from here or wiki at one point

[frail heart]

dropping the box literally does nothing

[safe cradle]

#gtfo-related-questions message

[ocean spindle]

mustve been only the og

oh

i was right lets go

[dawn star]

Is there any point in using the choke mod shotgun over the scattegun?

[sturdy glen]

no

[dawn star]

or any of the other shotguns that arent the scatter?

combat, normal shotgun.

[errant dome]

shotgun and combat shotty are both solid

not as broken as scatter but they arent bad, normal shotty is a flex weapon (can wave clear and also decent boss dmg), combat shotty is pretty solid wave clear

[modest monolith]

choke mod can fire from mid->long range. But its usage is quite limited and there are far better options

On the scale of D->A, I'd rate the choke mod as a B-tier special weapon

[errant dome]

choke mod just doesnt rlly have a good defined role, its trying to be a flex like shotgun but frankly its not rlly that great at either

[modest monolith]

The biggest question mark on the choke mod is the damage. Like it can fire mid->long range. But if you miss just 1 or 2 pellets, it could be a disaster.

To bring choke mod to good use, reduce total ammo and buff damage seems to be the best one

[errant dome]

that would at least make it a good boss kill ya

[modest monolith]

and there's another problem

it can kill boss with 1 shot now, yeah

but what about sniper and scattergun

💀

[errant dome]

i mean if you want actual balance scatter needs to be either removed or completly reworked

[modest monolith]

it creates a vicious cycle

remove scatter gun: good one

rework: more bullets ,less damage ?

[errant dome]

not necessarily, scatter is in a position where it so far above every other weapon (other than maybe sawed-off) you cant possibly go wrong with removing it or reworking it (unless you somehow manage to rework it to a more broken state ig)

[modest monolith]

one of my mentor used to tell me

if you can't solve a problem

solve the one who creates the problem

[errant dome]

if only it was that easy all the time xd

people cant just be "solved"

[wet bear]

Make choke grenade launcher with revolver drum

[modest monolith]

with money, everything is possible

☕

[errant dome]

it is precisely money that usually causes these problems funnily enuf, after all why bother doin smthin if it doesnt bring u money is quite the common mentality

[modest monolith]

money money money

always sunny

[errant dome]

smthin like that

[wet bear]

Why am I playing this shit, I never got paid for it :(

[errant dome]

what am i not paying for then smh

[urban oriole]

soulsniper

[urban oriole]

perhaps college

[modest monolith]

when will I have access to golden hammer, emerald scattergun and japanese speaking sleepers...

[errant dome]

Mayhaps

[errant dome]

lmao

All in the upcoming BP soon TM

[modest monolith]

Nico nico nii...

what i wanna hear after i bonk a sleeper

[urban oriole]

perchance

[urban oriole]

unironically i want a bonk sfx mod now

do we have one

[wet bear]

Nope iirc

[urban oriole]

awie

[heady igloo]

not sure if this is the right place to ask but are there checkpoints in all mision types (besides e missions from my understanding)

[wet bear]

There's no checkpoints until R6, R1A1 is exception

[heady igloo]

i see been slugging my way through the game slowly on my own so was just wondering

[wet bear]

Checkpoints are curse upon game

[heady igloo]

i agree, mainly was asking since some friends refuse to touch more missions without checkpoints

[wet bear]

See, your friends already under the curse

[heady igloo]

exactly they are stuck on rundown 1

not that i got far playing alone with bots either

[wet bear]

Bots suck but sometimes better than some players

[heady igloo]

thats true currently im mapping out my plan for r2b1 died a few too many times on the end

[wet bear]

There's no too many times in GTFO

We all die

[little pilot]

one recommendation i can give is: if u ever feel stuck on a level try out new strats, even if they might not seem like the best. The main issue with checkpoints is they don't encourage this kind of behaviour but rather the opposite: bashing ur head into a wall until it somehow works out. This WILL lead to very bad habits if abused

[heady igloo]

yea im not a fan of the checkpoint idea either

my friends are just a bunch of scaredy cats

[little pilot]

the result: 8 hour clear on certain missions... on a mission where world record is 10minutes and it can be done solidly in an hour if u don't do any funny strats and take it at a moderate pace

[wet bear]

8 hours, still uncompleted, leave game for the night, wake up and start flaming people on discord for saying "your lobby is dead" because your lobby crashed

[little pilot]

try to make them think of it this way: most missions take at most about half an hour at a decent pace. A checkpoint all it does (if used properly which i seriously doubt happens sadly) is reduce that time from half an hour to maybe 10-15minutes

[heady igloo]

just get gud so you dont need a checkpoint

[tardy ingot]

Tbh scatter warps the whole game since it makes boss encounters far far easier while also being insane vs giants and strong burst wave clear

Sawed off stands out as a main but in context to guns as a whole its only slightly stronger than the balanced shotgun in the special slot (it just looks uber insane vs the mains)

[wet bear]

I guess checkpoints aren't bad if used few times to figure out the next part of the level so you can approach it with new knowledge after restart, but there's a thin thing between bashing head and getting new knowledge

[little pilot]

and getting through the first section of the mission for the first time does take longer but the more you play... the faster u get through it: for example r2b1 the level u played: maybe first time it is 20minutes to get to the alarm, but the 2nd time you know you need to do 2 blood doors, you know you need a key, you know where terminal is so you can query key and in 6-7minutes you are already at the alarm

[little pilot]

if used properly they are good, the issue is probably the only people who know how to use a checkpoint are people who are already good enough to complete the level first try

and modded content doesn't use checkpoints because of bugs mostly rather than them being bad

[heady igloo]

yea i have it mapped out to the point where i just gotta fix my ending i consistently cleared the alarms i just lose at the end

[tardy ingot]

The big thing for gtfo is that, while its still a difficult game, its far less the mechanics/skill thats necessary to best levels but knowledge on how things work

So its less git gud and more „learn lots“

[heady igloo]

[little pilot]

eva we definitely need a "how to speed up gameplay" video holy moly

[wet bear]

Not needed if you can just play better and save more res (saying a person who jumps on boss enemies with call to melee the reactor)

[tardy ingot]

And shinobu if you ever feel stuck or want to learn things then id recommend the https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/884816732936622110 channel

Theres many good (and often spoiler free) guides and videos of knowledge in there

[heady igloo]

yee

[tardy ingot]

If you are free (after r6d4 testing) we could get some footage and brainstorm

[heady igloo]

currently trying to watch as little guides as possible and tackle it how i would tackle bosses in WoW with my guild

[little pilot]

ye

[errant dome]

sawed-off is basiclly like slotting in a 2nd special instead of a main, all things considered i consider that to be quite broken

[tardy ingot]

oh it definetly is

but it doesnt warp the game as much as scatter, considering that the game is still balanced around specials existing

in a way scatter is like going from main to special again. So its like a UNIQUE GRADE

[errant dome]

i dont think sawed-off is that far off from scatter tbh, you can more or less hold most waves with just sawed-off.

[tardy ingot]

you can do so with many guns

[errant dome]

for a main gun that takes basically 0 skill its busted, u can accomplish the same with hel revo but its like 10x harder

[tardy ingot]

well yea, I partially meant specials aswell tho

sawed off is certainly overpowered. But its still within the regards of the balanced guns as a whole (as you said above, its basically like having another special weapon, similarly to hel shotty in a way)

scattergun, completely destroys that balance tho

[errant dome]

i just feel your understating the fact that its a main weapon, i wouldnt be saying this if it was a special weapon with the exact same stats

[tardy ingot]

sawed off itself doesnt trivialize encounters a special weapon wouldnt have been able to

having 2 special weapons is obviously insane

scattergun does smth no other gun can replicate

[wet bear]

Balance that meta that, start enjoying game without numbers, develop anime girls for GTFO

[tardy ingot]

less numbers and more scatter just shitting on things

[wet bear]

Like almost everyone know that outside of new players, but there's no balance patch on horizon so it's useless speeches idk

We never get sniper back, we never get actual 6 pierce on hel rifle, we never get scatter back into the river etc

[errant dome]

i mean if you read my essays from yday, im all for people just having fun with whatever gun they like using

[tardy ingot]

this also isnt about telling people to us scatter

and moreso that scatter is just game breaking

while sawed off is (imo) just unbalanced/overpowered since its a special in the main slot

[wet bear]

None of us telling people to spam scatter on every level just because it's star that shines while others not so bright

[halcyon current]

I think knowing how to use scatter also helps, cause normally when I see a new person use it they have like 80 percent scatter ammo and 5 percent main ammo lmao

[wet bear]

Actually how bad is full scatter sawed off R6D1?

[errant dome]

I simply like to hear other's opinions and express mine, and personally I find it interesting (and sometimes frustrating but thats just how it be shrug) to see what other people's thoughts are. I dont actually expect a dev to read these msges and do changes ofc lul

[safe cradle]

Carbine

[wet bear]

That's just because people don't know how to balance their ammo, I can see people with any other weapons like that

[safe cradle]

The perfect newbie that isn't confident in aim weapon is Carbine

It's just decent even if shot from relatively middle distances

[halcyon current]

That's fair, I just see it happen a lot worse with scatter tbh

[safe cradle]

A lot of newbies tend to underestimate damage falloff

[halcyon current]

Carbine might be the most "it just works" gun in GTFO

[safe cradle]

Really, whenever someone asks me a "safe" weapon I just tell them Carbine

[halcyon current]

No crazy gameplay, no lining up shots, it just works

[errant dome]

not even bad lol thats how busted they be, sawed off especially has actual decent range making it decent for both flyers and damaging kracken, and depending on where you position yourself and tumor spawn you can do a fair amount of dmg with scatter

[safe cradle]

The correspective gun on special is perhaps HCP because you can just bodyshot everything anyway

You're supposed to phase both of those out when you get more confident of course

[halcyon current]

Tbh I love the HCP for the raw feeling of it

Very well designed gun

[wet bear]

My thoughts is that D1 kraken for that is mostly tumour dependent, cos most top would suck

[halcyon current]

Do think it falls off as levels get crazier tho

[safe cradle]

It's just that ultimately you might want to specialize more for a well, special, weapon

[halcyon current]

Tbh I just started using burst cannon cause I wanted to do even more damage lmao

[errant dome]

ya for d1 specifically it will depend on the tumor spawns alot prolly

[safe cradle]

HEL Rifle/HEL Gun to deal with threats and distance and to abuse pen, Scatter to fuck up anything, CS if you want a decent versatility, BC for range...

[halcyon current]

Burst Cannon is just such a weapon lmao

I kinda wish I got to use 5 shot one but

I imagine 3 shot is a bit more versatile

[errant dome]

5 shot one generally considred overall better

[wet bear]

You still can - mods/older/og rundowns

[errant dome]

but im not 2 familiar with the exact stats

[halcyon current]

I thought 5 shot one was considered nuts bordering on OP tbh

[halcyon current]

Yeah, I'm not doing that till I do every vanilla game level at least once tho tbh

[wet bear]

Just do them simultaneously

[halcyon current]

At least let a guy finish R4

I want that edgy gasmask real bad you have no idea

[safe cradle]

5 bursts was back when it could burst cancel

which did make it perhaps one of (if not the) strongest OG R4 specials

[halcyon current]

So burst canceling meant that it could also be 3 shot if you wanted it to

[wet bear]

You just don't know about amongus costume

[safe cradle]

Then they switched to ALT 5 burst but nerfed the damage

[halcyon current]

Oh I'm familiar

[safe cradle]

Then the burst to 3 and got the damage back so that it could onetap strikers

[halcyon current]

So now instead of raking 5 sleepers you rake 3

[safe cradle]

But burst cancelling 5 was really damn powerful

[wet bear]

You forget about recoil patch

[safe cradle]

Ah right

Damn BC went through some real balance when it was reintroduced

[wet bear]

After switching to 3 shots they did awful recoil on it too

[halcyon current]

Tbh I think the recoil on it is just something you learn to deal with, it's not like, a massive detriment

[wet bear]

But then patched that too

[safe cradle]

Just crouch after first shot to diminish recoil

[halcyon current]

The recoil is just the gate if you will

[halcyon current]

Just pull down on your mouse tbh

[wet bear]

Nah that shit was either you shoot space or sleepers

[safe cradle]

Eh I mean with 3 burst you kinda want to brush

[halcyon current]

I pull down and right most of the time cause CS

[halcyon current]

Ikwym

BC is fun tho

If I don't use BC I like Hel Gun

Or if I know there's gonna be Chargers The Level I'll bring Hel Rifle ig

To those of you that know better then I, what special do you normally pair with DTR?

I'd take DTR+HCP but like, idk. HCP doesn't keep up. DTR+BC is fun but the clear is rough sometimes.

[safe cradle]

The guns I take are 50% dependant on the level, 25% on what the rest of team has, and 25% on what I feel like I'll have fun using

Main and special I take are rarely a factor to each other

[halcyon current]

I tbh take one loadout till I feel like I need to change it

That loadout is Hel Shotgun+Burst Cannon lmao

Hel Shotgun+Hel Gun is very fun tho tbh

[civic wave]

Originally recoil change was ALT R4 i think, when it was still 5 burst

to make it a bit harder to use

the high recoil was introduced before the burst size change, not after

[cloud fox]

Is there a list somewhere of weapons sorted by rundown?

By that I mean

Weapons in R1: X, Y, Z
Weapons in R2: X, Y, Z
etc

[errant dome]

AFAIK no, there are tierlists for all rundowns, i recommend checking out ray's on the GTFO reddit as its fairly comprehensive. For the most part the tierlist wouldnt really change THAT much between each rundown

[cloud fox]

Bugger. Guess I just gotta look at old videos or something.

[errant dome]

oh wait its list not tier list woops

[cloud fox]

Yeah not tier list lol

[errant dome]

srry we talked so much about tiering lately my brain is stuck in that mindset

[cloud fox]

Fair enough :P

[errant dome]

i think there is a page in gtfo wiki that has what u want? let me see if i can find it

[halcyon current]

The wiki tells you when a weapon released on its page normally fwiw

[errant dome]

ya that, not sure if there is a page that combines this information into one tho

[cloud fox]

Far as I could tell it didnt and figured it would be faster to ask rather than have to look at every individual gun page

Either that or i mess about and install the old rundowns but that would take far too much effort :')

[halcyon current]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don't know of a list and there's not an insane amount of weapons

[cloud fox]

Ill just make my own list, with blackjack and Pablos

[tardy ingot]

it was 5 burst until R8 btw
and it was far and above the best R4 special

[wet bear]

My brain is rot smh, thanks for correcting

[fathom ore]

Is there any tips/tricks for secondary on R8D2 like weapons strats
(I already know to kill tank before doing scans)

[fathom ice]

do class 7

[tardy ingot]

Do class 7 if you want to beat the level

If you want to do class 9 (for fun or the challenge) then its rly just the typical strats for tank and nightmares

[fathom ore]

like change the alarm to a class 7?

[fathom ice]

yeah

just do a 67% or smth

it's good enough

[fathom ore]

how can you do that cause i didnt know you could

[little pilot]

for beating class 9 u gotta have: nightmare killing power, when tank shows up u HAVE to make sure u burst him down very quickly before the rest of the enemies come back

[fathom ice]

u literally get 3 choices when u type 'commands' into a term

[tardy ingot]

Sec has 3 choices

[fathom ore]

ohh

so the terminal gives you three choices before the alarm starts and you lower fog

[tardy ingot]

Class 9 = no more fog
Class 7 = basically no more fog (only relevant twice but foggies exist)
Class 5 = fuck theres fog everywhere

[fathom ore]

i see

[tardy ingot]

Class 9 is way way tougher than 7

[fathom ore]

got it

well ty for telling me so i know what to do next time i attempt it

one more question is there still a tank for class 7 alarm or no

[little pilot]

nope

[ocean spindle]

nopes

nor snatcher

[fathom ore]

oh wow so its much easier lol

[tardy ingot]

If you need any more help for R8D2, feel free to ask

The level is very solved in what you CAN do to make it easier

[tiny wyvern]

The last part is more likely to kill you than anything in the level

[fathom ice]

4/0 and mwp jump makes the level zzz in main

[errant dome]

whats 4/0

[fathom ice]

split for dual

[errant dome]

o

fair enuf

once u know how everything works its not 2 bad

[tardy ingot]

The first yea (especially if you then lower fog with flush command before finishing central scan)

The 2nd is an exploit

just do a 1-1-2 split and hold easily

[fathom ice]

it's not a glitch tho iirc

[tardy ingot]

it is

[fathom ice]

is it?

[tardy ingot]

you arent allowed to tp it up in glitchless

[fathom ice]

didn't u use it in glitchless

[tardy ingot]

no

[fathom ice]

oh

mb

[tardy ingot]

we carry it up

which is funny cuz mega mom is at the top

[fathom ice]

ikr

[errant dome]

do the snatchers even spawn lul

[wet bear]

When are we getting mega mom maunt?

[tardy ingot]

Yes you can only avoid them with bots

[errant dome]

huh how do bots make u avoid them

[tardy ingot]

you go down, do the voice message (so mwp becomes a pickup) have a bot tp down (once they decide they want to pathfind)

Then you walk up past the trigger and tell the bot to pick up the mwp

They cant set off the alarm trigger box

[errant dome]

oh its a trigger for the snatchers

i see

[tardy ingot]

And the nightmares

Theres no alarm otherwise

[fathom ice]

think auri has a vid on it or smth

[errant dome]

i probably shouldve figured it out since alarm only starts once u go up a certain amount xd

but i didnt rlly think about it till now

[tardy ingot]

auri has a video on the mwp jump to tp it up the bridge

[tardy ingot]

yea theres a "small" trigger box near the top part of the stairs

[fathom ice]

that too

if i remember they showed that if u use a snatcher u can dodge trigger boxes

or smth

[ocean spindle]

ah yes very intended for the mwp to teleport 50 meters up

[grizzled patrol]

But what If otherwise it would be in an inaccessable area? Afterall it tps to prevent that from Happening

[broken zealot]

in yalls opinion, what is the best feeling gun (not stats, just how good it feels in your hands, like the sounds, aesthetics and feel of it when killing)

[past mesa]

Hel rev

[errant dome]

hel rifle when getting 3+ pen feels amazing

[broken zealot]

for me, it has to be the bullpup

and for special it is the high cal\

bullpup just feels very smooth, low recoil, okay damage,

but for horde doors and chokepoints its 1000000% the hel shotgun

[tiny wyvern]

...Okay damage?

[broken zealot]

i havent played it in a long time, is it good or bad, i forgor... 💀

[tiny wyvern]

It has good handling sure but the damage is...
well, even the people who like it won't call it ok

[prime musk]

cool dude is this chill dudes long lost sibling

[past mesa]

Bullpup is great

Let me get you the clip

[past mesa]

#gtfo-media message

[broken zealot]

WHAT

then why are people calling it dogshit

[prime musk]

the bullpup did nothing in that clip

[errant dome]

it was an assisst hit marker, the thing that destroyed the giants was not the bullpup

[broken zealot]

oh ok thanks gang

[digital mural]

Bro

Bro.......

[broken zealot]

do yall recommend any automatic/semi auto rifle as a primary

?

[digital mural]

DMR

[broken zealot]

why the DMR out of everything else?

[tardy ingot]

automatics? no

[digital mural]

Because autos are garbage
And DMR is the only semi-auto rifle in main thats decent

[tiny wyvern]

Some autos are fine

[minor fractal]

HEL AutoPP is the only fine one

[digital mural]

Yep

[tiny wyvern]

They do suffer from lower damage in general and without pen they find it hard to stick

[tardy ingot]

dmr is good
rifle is decent

[errant dome]

hel autopp is the only one i could think of that isnt ass cheeks

[tardy ingot]

there also arent more than 2 semi auto rifles lol

[tiny wyvern]

(I use machine pis)

[digital mural]

Rifle feels weird

At least for me

[errant dome]

machine pistol is fine in theory but in practice u just miss too many bullets

[digital mural]

Autos in this game are made to be used in bursts

[tiny wyvern]

Not if you use it sawed off range

[digital mural]

Not full auto unless you are in a desperate situation

[tiny wyvern]

Where unless if you're finishing off a large group sawed off is infinitely better

[digital mural]

MP has insane recoil

Good luck trying to hit your shots

[errant dome]

yea

[minor fractal]

MP recoil is pretty controllable once you learn it, tbh

It's just the weapon still isn't very insane

[errant dome]

hm i can see that, the recoil was such a bother for me it made me insta hate the gun and never touched it again afterwards xd

[minor fractal]

It's definitely a cut above other Main autos

Along w/ PDW

[errant dome]

right i keep forgetting pdw exists

[digital mural]

:(

[errant dome]

well pdw and machine pp if your good with the recoil are mostly fine probs

[ocean lance]

pdw is goated cause with low graphics mod i can't see shadows

so it's my crutch

[errant dome]

u cant even see kraken tumors with that mod lmao

[ocean lance]

listen

just shoot in the general direction of it

[tardy ingot]

wha

[errant dome]

well the one time i tried it at least

[digital mural]

How Bad your computer has to be to have to use low graphics mod

My laptop has componentes from 7 years ago and its a fucking laptop

[ocean lance]

i want to have stable 60+ okay

[errant dome]

couldnt see kraken tumors on i think r8e2?

[digital mural]

And runs the game fine

[ocean lance]

have you played e2 with it on lowest graphics

last part with the explosions goes hard

[errant dome]

mightve been r8b1 i dont remember, one of those lvls

[ocean lance]

it's just yellow squares

[errant dome]

well my default usually is lowest everything other than shadow settings

[ocean lance]

oh i meant

lowest graphics on the low graphics mod

[errant dome]

only tried the mod once, either r8e2 or r8b1, i dont remember, but either way i remember wiping on kraken so i didnt experience last part of r8e2 with it no

[ocean lance]

aww

i'll get a clip of it one of these days

it's something lemme tell you

[errant dome]

i can imagine lul

i get like 20-30 fps on that bit with everything on low

[ocean lance]

oh i'm not the only one with gtfo on life support i see

[errant dome]

im laptop gaming so, kinda boned from the start

[fathom ice]

same !!

[ocean lance]

based

you can play wherever!

[fathom ice]

yes !!

[errant dome]

well as long as my laptop doesnt become a nuclear reactor i dont rlly mind that much anyways xd

ive become used 2 low fps gaming

[ocean lance]

i used to play with 30 fps

i recently, like some months ago, have "upgraded" my pc and get like stable 60+ on SOME levels

i swear it's like

such a big difference

all the hours i had before felt like the time chamber from dragonball

so much better now

[errant dome]

i mean, my first time goingh from 30 fps to 60 fps a few years ago was a similar experience

[ocean spindle]

iii like the machinegun, veruta specifically
the pump shottie feels so good
hel autopiss and the normal pisstol are nice
hel shottie :] teehee

anddd maybs har

[errant dome]

30 -> 60 fps is the biggest diff overall imo

[ocean lance]

i swear if i had stable 140+ i could solo e2

[errant dome]

anything more doesnt feel as impactful

ive tried a bit on some of my freinds good setups

not saying there is no diff

but 30 -> 60 is just a whole nother lvl

[ocean lance]

idk fake news

i used to be big on arena shooters

i guess it's faster there than gtfo

60 to 140 was like not even funny

like people thought i installed cheats cause i was so much more consistent

but gtfo doesn't need that much that's true

[errant dome]

i have thousands of hours on fps games shrug, thats just how it was for me, Maybe i'd change my mind if i stayed playing at said super high setups for longer, but for now thats how i feel about it.

[ocean lance]

idk depends on games

gtfo really doesn't matter that much

as much as i hate valorant and cs:go and shit like that

60 hz and 144 hz is insanely different

same as like osu, idk if you play it or know anything about it

but 60 to 144 is like cheating i swear

[errant dome]

it was on valorant btw where i played with the superior setup (only a few hours tho, so not exactly a big sample size lul)

[ocean lance]

yeah no if you get used to it you start to notice it a lot

for osu it was instant for me

ar10 on 60 is so hard to start out

[errant dome]

but llike to me 30 -> 60 was instant noticable diff for me which is why i feel its a much bigger deal

[ocean lance]

ar10 on 144 is like child's play lmao

[ocean lance]

mhm i agree that 30 to 60 is a pretty big gap yeah

it goes from unplayable to playable 💀

anything above is just slightly better

[errant dome]

ya thats more or less what im trying to say

[halcyon current]

I think once you get used to a certain FPS going back is fucked up

Whether it's 30>60 or 60>120 or 120>240

[ocean lance]

ye then i agree absolutely

like whenever i see gerz's streams on 120+ i'm like mindblown

that shit looks so juicy

[errant dome]

i think its somewhat exaggerated because usually it wont take you that long to get used to your old fps (the exception being 60 back to 30), but otherwise ya. For some time you'll defo be feeling the diff lul

[ocean lance]

120 to 60 is not THAT bad

[errant dome]

ya

[ocean lance]

like even after getting used to 120

[errant dome]

like i see people acting like going from 120 to 60 is unplayable xd

[ocean lance]

it's okay to go back to 60

[errant dome]

which is why i say exaggeration

[halcyon current]

It's not unplayable but it is less nice lmao

[errant dome]

oh less nice i 100% agree with lul

[halcyon current]

Nah tbh I personally don't like anything under like 45 ish FPS, that's like "unplayable" to me

[ocean lance]

tell me about it

i played my first 1.7 hours of gtfo on 20-40

only the last 300 have been above that

[halcyon current]

I didn't start playing gtfo till I had a real PC tbh

I've heard some of the later levels are optimized like garbage anyway tho

[ocean lance]

me when plants

[errant dome]

unfortunately yea, not much u can do about it

gtfo isnt as impacted by fps tho which is why idm

[minor fractal]

Crazy statement

[errant dome]

(that and also me getting used to shit fps lol)

[ocean spindle]

if i played gtfo at 6 fps and got 5 out of 6 r1 levels

u can play at 30 perfectly fine

plus 3 bots

[digital mural]

Guys the human eye cant see beyond 30 FPS

[ocean lance]

trust me you'd be like almost twice as good as you are with 60+

[ocean spindle]

i i was sort of

i mean thats confirmed by every science ever

more fps means ur react time is faster

thus u play better

[ocean lance]

what about farm merge valley

can i play it with 5 fps

[ocean spindle]

probs

[ocean lance]

will my skill be lower

[ocean spindle]

how bout candy crush

[errant dome]

sure

[ocean spindle]

503 fps on it

[digital mural]

It doesnt matter how many FPS you have in Candy crush
You wont be able to beat the moms at level 100000

[ocean spindle]

:[

[errant dome]

what about tetris

[ocean lance]

i have no clue, i dont play tetris

[errant dome]

i dont either

~~it was just the first thing i thought of ~~

[tiny wyvern]

Unless you're going for death screens it shouldn't be a factor

[keen path]

Tetris is frame dependent

If you're going for high scores

Better to see it before it lands on later times

[errant dome]

the more u know

well i imagine you get to a point where the diff is negligible, but not sure how much fps that would be

i mean surely assuming you have a remotely modern device you shouldnt have issues running tetris at gud fps

[dire hollow]

Does r1 b1 not have checkpoints?

[civic wave]

Checkpoints are only in missions in Rundowns 6, 7, 8, and a lone one in R1A1

This means that starting R1B1 to the end of rundown 5/start of rundown 6, there are no checkpoints

[tardy ingot]

No checkpoint for 45 levels is always very funny ngl

[tiny wyvern]

(no it really isn't)

(especially when you pub r1a1 so much you have to explain every time there's no checkpoint for a long while)

[jagged shore]

yeah
i wish they either full sent on adding more checkpoints when they added them to r1a1, or just, never added one to r1a1

[ocean spindle]

there was just no good option any way cuz both are up to debate

[crystal blaze]

I think they should just get rid of checkpoints

Honestly, just throw new players into the fire (I’m delusional and way overestimating my ability)

[halcyon current]

They should get rid of the orange circle for scans, make it invisible

[ocean spindle]

gtfo no visor challenge, no hud, no bioscans visible, no objective pings or descriptions, nothing when approaching a door

[fathom ice]

it spawns 3 chargers every wave but every minute that amount increases by 1

[past mesa]

Spawn distance

depending on the room

Errros feel awful or fine

[tiny wyvern]

The bad side has weird distances right

[past mesa]

Yeah

[tiny wyvern]

It can either be really close or miles away

And you don't know when to anticipate it

(unless you've done that level tens of times)

Besides that's a spot where you'd sometimes go in with bio and leave two people without bio to defend against error

I'd like to say it's 20 but I can't remember for sure

[digital mural]

The biggest one

[steel grotto]

Will there ever be an update for the utilities and ui? Like dropping utilities in an empty slot in a locker or stacking them, using right click or other keybinds to use them on others instead of yourself, different biotracker shapes for different kinds of sleepers. Most of the qol stuff like these already exist as mods, it wiuld be so nice if they were official.

[tiny wyvern]

game done

No more updates

Unless for really really bad bugs

...Honestly, this stuff has been asked for for so long, long before I was here

i doubt asking now would make any good difference

The only thing that isn't a mod is different bio shapes

[frail heart]

most of those are just intentional game mechanics

[tiny wyvern]

I mean betterbio's already really good imo

To the point it feels like cheating

[steel grotto]

game done 😭

Seems fair. The game has everything and is mostly bug free

There are a lot of games that keep making updates even though the community js against it

So this is much better

[wild flare]

Well, some bug fixes would be appreciated, especially in checkpoints part

[modest monolith]

terminal bug fixed ? I must be living on Utopia

[safe cradle]

spitteraudio isnt fixed in vanilla

and it's THE worst damn glitch this game has

There's plenty more

but spitteraudio crashes the damn game

[hard nexus]

iirc 17

[safe cradle]

big is bad because they can spawn inside and if a scout is in the farthest room, well, it ain't plesant

On the other hand I think the best scenario is big, scout first room so you pop it fast, then abuse doors with mines (as in, pull the room).

What i'm trying to say is that I feel like big is better IN THE SCENARIO (very lucky) that you never get inside spawns

[hard nexus]

tbh i dont remember

its been a while

[safe cradle]

The other zone has no doors IIRC and the 3 rooms are connected in such a way that you just need to be in A for it to only get back spawns

The tradeoff is that you need to toast scout and wake the room, unless you get two people 1 room away with guns bombing the charger waves

TBH I never put much thinking into my R3C1 clears

I just shoot scout, clear room, get to terminal and ping HSU

[hard nexus]

ye pretty much

[safe cradle]

It works even with vanilla bots

[hard nexus]

tbh i never put much thinking into gtfo

i just press matchmake

if anyone new and "any level is fine" i put r4b3pe/r5b2pe

if no one is new i put r8d2

[rapid bay]

Hey how rare is it to have 30 odd bigs in R1B1?

[topaz anvil]

my bigs are always even so idk

[prime musk]

it happens in every run, enemy spawns are fixed per zone

[civic wave]

i can't remember the zone numbers but it's normal for 2 of the zones

well, normal for them to be very full of bigs

additionally there's one zone with a few of them around

[safe cradle]

You never got THE big in R1C1?

[civic wave]

yeah, zones 39 and 40 are always like that, and zone 42 will have a handful

[safe cradle]

For some reason, VERY rarely, there's a giant or a chicken in R1C1's path to reactor

[civic wave]

sometimes instead of getting 2 giant spawn you can get 1 giant 1 shooter

[minor fractal]

Certain group settings allow enemies to "promote," by rolling to be a different enemy type.

And in those places, you can get random single giants

[safe cradle]

Weird, why is that even there?

[minor fractal]

It used to be more common, in R1-R5 this was the case for all small groups, and bigs could also roll to be ~7 strikers.

With 2 or more people, you take turns breaking limbs to maintain heavy stagger

[civic wave]

you can finagle the bots to be stood near the giant, hit the giant to wake it up and the bots should start hitting it after a short delay

[minor fractal]

Stall by soloing and waiting for bots to get their melees in

[civic wave]

for this you'll want to break a limb for long stagger - back of head is ideal for most damage

[minor fractal]

Or you just shoot

[safe cradle]

Bots like to pretend they can wake shit up, so they'll try NOT to move when an enemy close is pulsating or whatnot

But make sure they're kinda close to the giant before starting

TBH if there's more than 1 giant just prepare to shoot

[soft crater]

Better yet. You see the rare instance a bot solo melees a giant

I've only seen it twice myself

Every other time they fail or start shooting.

[wild flare]

hit occiput and pray, that bots will finish/stagger giant OR you have enough time to charge your weapon to break another limb and kill him

sometimes giant can do sudden 180* turn and smack everyone with melee, be aware of this

[fallen kite]

i hate this fucking animation

where the FIRST THING THEY DO IS THE FUCKING SWING AROUND AND PUNCH

😢

[grizzled patrol]

just dont break the head first and use it to reset the animation if this happens

[fathom ice]

just melee bait

[grizzled patrol]

#gtfo-media message

[prime musk]

how far behind the player does the knife hitbox come out?

even when like, on top of an enemy i can't get a hit to register

[grizzled patrol]

doesnt it come from the sides?

[prime musk]

i've been told is from behind the player, at least enough that you can get back multiplier in front of an enemy

[exotic depot]

is there any way to silently take out the tall dudes?

[ocean spindle]

melee takedown, 3 hits to the back with hammers should kill it- to be sure u can always hit the occiput

it is also possible with bots but admittedly risky

[hoary mason]

It is silent if there's no one else left who can hear his scream

[crystal blaze]

Scattergun

It’s very silent trust

[native sun]

EnemyHitboxView -> DisplayPlayerMeleeHitboxes

[prime musk]

ty

[dusty basalt]

I'm new to this game and I'm having a hard time with the foam launcher. It seems to just not goop up doors like the foam grenade. Another door I was shooting, the foam went through the door out onto the other side on the ground.

Is this a glitch? This is my first time using the foam launcher..

I had another door only take 4 little goop spots and not take any more.

[prime musk]

these sound like shooterbug

having everyone in the lobby restart their game (closing it fully and launching it again) will fix the issue

[dusty basalt]

I'm fully solo ;-;

[prime musk]

how long have you been in game

[dusty basalt]

over 6 hours

[prime musk]

yeah that's shooterbug

just restart game

[dusty basalt]

this bug happens often?

[prime musk]

it is caused by time spent since opening the game kinda

[dusty basalt]

any way to save my run?

[prime musk]

not actually but restarting the game periodically prevents it from happening

[carmine grotto]

Good practice to reset game every hour and a half or so to avoid it

[prime musk]

no fixing without exiting to lobby screen at the very least

[dusty basalt]

;-;

ok, thank you

[carmine grotto]

There is always the forbidden use of doorbugging but using it is heavy frowned upon here (except for like 2 people who need it for clears)

[digital mural]

DID SOMEONE SAID DOOR BUG?

[dusty basalt]

oh noes, this run is so dead. The foam nade bounced off the door

[carmine grotto]

Mentioning it is better than practicing it

[slender zenith]

and now we wait ahh comment

[digital mural]

You must not say such things in here

[carmine grotto]

It is better to warn of the dangers of doorbugging early : Doorbugging, not even once

[slender zenith]

once a doorbugger always a doorbugger

[carmine grotto]

As the great "Dry (Martial Cute)" said

[past mesa]

you can clutch the run

without foam

tho

best way to foam the door is to make the colliders as vertial as possibler

being close to damage door

then foaming as up as possible

[knotty relic]

Sleepo did you change your name?

[past mesa]

I did

I think this one represents me more

[knotty relic]

Nooooo I loved you’re other name. I always imagined a little anime chibi character with a snore bubble when I read sleepo beepo in the chat

You’ll live on with me forever

[civic wave]

rip sleepo beepo gone to the land of forever sleep

[fathom ice]

this is insanity

[tiny wyvern]

did his account die again

[past mesa]

What’s wrong guys

[past mesa]

Yeah mods banned me quite Unfo

[crystal blaze]

:D

DOORBUG

[sour crescent]

Quick question
When a locker is opened, I've noticed that when you come back later after leaving they sometimes vanish

Are the bots fucking with me or is there consumable/item despawn? If so how in Gods name does it work?

[hardy grotto]

bots are fucking with you

or you got visited by purple dauda

[sour crescent]

Appreciated, definitely shooting them just before I exit the run down now

[hardy grotto]

wise choice

[tiny wyvern]

purple dauda?

[hardy grotto]

you havent seen him?

lucky...

[tiny wyvern]

you mean bishop?

[frail heart]

hes the herobrine of gtfo...

[hardy grotto]

no bishop is not purple dauda

are you dumb

[tiny wyvern]

yes

I do bugs not urban legends

[hardy grotto]

well i hope you dont encounter him

[sour crescent]

[safe cradle]

... no?

🤣

[fierce walrus]

well, its about time you start doing those too

[hearty anchor]

If there is a sleeper on the ground floor and another one positioned at a higher elevation, do they have a line of sight to each other? Can one waking up trigger the other or not?

[grizzled patrol]

Is the Floor Solid? No

Is it a catwalk with holes? Yes but there is a small Chance of no

The only Thing they Could Always hear is noise If you smack on the ground

[knotty relic]

What the fuck?

I’ve been had!

[fathom ice]

realisation hits hard

[crystal blaze]

It’s just a burning memory

[safe cradle]

@past mesa Exactly what happened?

I'm curious 🤣

[past mesa]

Wdym

sleepo my Alt

[safe cradle]

Nice, can I send you my bills too?

[past mesa]

Well

if you want them paid I would recommend not

[past mesa]

It isn’t my fault that my favourite gtfo YouTuber recognized me as the wrong name

I had to get favour

[safe cradle]

wait what

[past mesa]

What are we saying here

Is this not about me posing as you

[safe cradle]

Someone called you sleepo?

[past mesa]

LOL

[safe cradle]

lel

[past mesa]

Yeah my name changed because the mods abused me

And then hung me up as some type of trophy

[safe cradle]

bad mods

[past mesa]

They are gay as all mods are

[past mesa]

Am I wrong soy you are called soy

Like soy boy which is just a conspiracy jump away from gay

[tardy ingot]

wat

[sturdy dew]

youre half wrong

[past mesa]

.

[sturdy dew]

also this name came from the moistcritical song

[safe cradle]

Liberator got the name wrong (weirdly it isn't the first time he think he quotes me but it's actually someone else 🤣)

[hardy grotto]

I hope you know he didn’t create the word soy

[sturdy dew]

oh yeah ik

[past mesa]

Actually

I made up the word soy

[sturdy dew]

but at the time i enjoyed his song

[safe cradle]

The dark red color really hurts my eyes on dark theme

[past mesa]

Solution

Change to light theme

[safe cradle]

Cant find an "horrified" emote

Light theme would bombard my eyes with energy

I already have not-very-good eyesight

[paper summit]

Can sniper 1 shot Giants and Hybrids in the head with no boosters?

[tardy ingot]

yes

[paper summit]

Is the wiki info wrong then? Cause it would take like 2-3 shots for them according to wiki

Unless I'm misreading

[errant dome]

you are prolly calculating it wrong

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[errant dome]

unless some wiki page says it would need 2-3 shots tho i dont remember reading anything like that

[prime musk]

this guy does not know about precision damage

[paper summit]

Wiki says the giants have 120 hp and Hybrids 150 hp, sniper deals 40 dmg with no boosters and dmg multipliers, while headshots on those 2 enemies specifically with headshot mutlipliers are 1.5x and 2x more then normal dmg, which would mean sniper would deal 80 dmg to Hybrids and 60 to Hybrids.

[wild flare]

"The PR 11's greatest strength is its ability to one-shot Scouts, Big Strikers, Big Shooters and Hybrids over very long ranges with headshots."

literally first sentence on wiki

[prime musk]

i called it

[cold yoke]

is there any way for me to matchmake on my rundown mission? every time i do matchmake it puts me in r3 and above

[civic wave]

poor fellow doesn't know about the precision multiplier on guns themselves

[wild flare]

use lfg on discord server for this, in-game matchmaking is bad

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[cold yoke]

k thx

[tardy ingot]

hybrids have 2x headshot multi
giants have 1,5x

so 80 on hybrids, 60 on giants

but sniper has a 2x head crit multiplier by itself

so its 160 and 120 dmg

[tardy ingot]

yikes

[paper summit]

Oh, I get it now. Thanks Eva.

Since it's crit, I'm guessing it doesn't always 1 shot or maybe it always 1 shots and crits if you hit the enemy in a certain spot?

[wild flare]

there is no % chance to crit, if you hit weakspot you will always deal more dmg

[paper summit]

Ok, thanks Dark.

[knotty relic]

I’ve been pranked. Now I have to figure the name out…. Was that Rip Mountainman? Everyone’s pfp changes so much I never remember.

I’m just a dude, wading through a pool of speed runners called things that aren’t their profile names.

Actually I guess that’s not true. Only like 2 of you have different names.

[crystal blaze]

It’s okay Liberator_2033, I shall be a constant in your voyage through the GTFO discord server

(As I change my profile picture tomorrow)

[soft crater]

Gtfo with crit chance %💀

[safe cradle]

I still need to roll a Veruta with Phys damage, Crit Rate, Crit Damage

I mean, some spreadsheets call the multiplier Crit instead of Precision, so the confusion is justified

[soft crater]

Gotta roll the crit++/pen++

[safe cradle]

I could use the ticket to select it but then the RNG will be about what gets upgraded

[soft crater]

[safe cradle]

Imagine rolling SSR Dauda on ZZZ

What would he say, I wonder

[soft crater]

"This place is BEEG"

[grizzled patrol]

"this place is fkn amongous"

[knotty relic]

Finally! Someone has my back around here. I always needed an adult to hold my hand through this place 🙋‍♂️

[past mesa]

No one would ever prank you baby girl

I am sleepo

[knotty relic]

I’m so fucked

I don’t know what’s real

[past mesa]

Don’t listen to the other sleepo they are an imposter

[tardy ingot]

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[dusty basalt]

I was told the holding a hacking tool during a scan makes it go faster, but I can't find this on the wiki. Is it true?

[upper ginkgo]

you were lied to

it's a community joke that holding the hacking tool makes the scan goes faster

[dusty basalt]

balls

literally in a video about solo tips, damn

[ocean spindle]

i think there was a booster of it like, 3-4 years ago but it only lasted like nothing

so either the video is really trying to gaslight people up lol or it is from that time and also wrong lmao

[hard nexus]

there was a booster

no longer

[sudden nexus]

too many red names 😭

[soft crater]

This came out around r1-r2 when mfs though crouch spamming and spinning made it faster

Then the booster for eq tool bio scan speed later came out in r4?

No r5

Yeah

[long atlas]

Does anyone know if the terminals display items on a list completely randomly or not? As in, if an item were in zone_10a, would it be in a different place on that list than if it was in zone_10b?

Trying to make R2E1 easier potentially playing solo with bots

[soft crater]

resources can spawn relatively anywhere in a Zone within it's areas

sometimes combined packs or split packs

[long atlas]

Right, but if a list displays something like
Medpack
Terminal
Generator
Would it be in a different order if the medpack was in a different room on a different attempt?

A different order like:
Terminal
Medpack
Generator

[soft crater]

Terminals are fixed positions for the most part besides certain level

obj positions / resource positions etc can swap around between different runs yes

this varies more depending on the level

[long atlas]

That's not quite what I'm asking about though, specifically when it comes to how lists on terminals are generated. It's a really niche question so I understand if no one really knows

[soft crater]

you mean listing order?

if so then idk

[long atlas]

Yeah, I don't think anyone's particularly explored it, so nw, I might have to dig into it myself

[soft crater]

more experienced players I imagine are used to filtering out the list command for specifics

[soft crater]

probably has been looked into at one point in time. but idk if anyone has particularly pointed it out

[long atlas]

Yeah, I was trying to see if I could predict a cell's location in R2E1, the one in the zone after the error alarm initiates if you're familiar. But I was trying to predict it using just the listing order of that one zone, since it's different every time

[civic wave]

I don't believe terminal lists go off areas of zones nor is it something i'd investigate more deeply right now (I could go into cconsole and logs and find which room generates as ##_AreaA etc etc and cross ref that with terminal list)

however, if you list generally it goes from smallest to largest zone number iirc
so if you LIST AMMO and there's 3 ammopacks, one in each zone, the one for zone 1 would appear first in the list, followed by zones 2 then 3

[long atlas]

I see, that could very well be part of why it was so inconsistent when I was testing. So there's probably no method to predicting a cell's location without digging into logs

[civic wave]

actually no it might've been listed in order of proximity to the terminal

not bottom to top zone number

[frail heart]

Get one yourself

[frail heart]

It’s quite a complicated process that only a few people understand. A few levels with cells have been mapped

[hard nexus]

can you confirm or deny the team 979 top player bio

[civic wave]

different goat

• i don't know any of these players idk how i can rate one as being the best biotracker player of the bunch

[long atlas]

I mean if there's resources out there for the deep intricacies of the game, I'd love to read it if that exists. Like I said I'm doing a terrible challenge run playing solo with bots, and I'm super close to beating R2E1, I've beat 59 other levels including all extra objectives so any edge I can get matters

[civic wave]

ah, r2e1 with bots is most funny

i've no tips to suggest for terminal utilisation or finding shortcuts, but hope you get the run hammered down eventually

[past mesa]

So you aren’t entirely wrong

But the main problem you will probs run into is generation order.

You can determine what key goes where from the list

But idk if you can do the same thing with the entire list it works for objects of the same class th

[long atlas]

If I just list everything, would that give me a better insight as to where things are spawning in a given level? Or is it deeper than that?

I imagine there's some consistency somewhere in the listing function but I don't know where that consistency is

[ocean spindle]

if u list everything- u get to see every resource and objective item that there is on a level, but that really isnt that useful
really what brings the most out of that command is listing individual zones

like u get to see the resources on them and if they have objective items before u even get in

but it depends on how u play

i usually just tend to list the zone i am in to check if im missing any resources, and sometimes i list zones if im unsure if its worth to go into them

[wild crow]

Hey i'm not very familiar but when you do reactor based missions, does the reactor count as a player to stop spawn locations?

I just want to make sure

[past mesa]

@native sun

do you have a write up for this on the wiki

[native sun]

Welcome from the Spiff video, the description of "reactor counting as a player is a bit misleading", but the explanation in the video of enemies spawning X + 2 rooms away from reactor, where X is the furthest player from reactor is correct

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Enemy_Spawning#Reactors It's in detail on the wiki

[wild crow]

You figured out where I heard it from :D
yeah it was from spiff, thanks for the confirmation and wiki page too

[craggy pier]

I shot at a scout and now he is stuck being blue and spamming the alarm audio.
I cannot kill him and it osunds like a windows bsod.
Is there smth i can do to get rid of him?

[frail heart]

infinite scream bug rip

[sturdy glen]

throw some foam on it

[craggy pier]

umm

all the enemies on the level are geeked

i can just run through them

[tardy ingot]

infinite screaming scout breaks the game yes

be aware that it might crash your game if you keep it up for too long

[craggy pier]

In my case the bug happened a few minutes before i could extract and i tried completing the rundown but after completing the extraction scan, it disappeared and i was trapped in the map.
After returning to the menu the rundown did not count :/ oh well.
Also the game crash is caused pc-spec wise or just a fatal error?

[tardy ingot]

yea it doesnt let you extract unless you do one of the somewhat scuffed "fixes"

[tiny wyvern]

Did a lot of people come from the spiff video

[wild flare]

no, i watched random video on yt, where there were a lot of shadows, players were spamming c-foam and went for extraction, while one person died

i found it interesting and original and bought game

[prime musk]

i watched spiff thought to myself "there is no way it is that hard, i can do better" and then proceeded to buy the game and confirmed that it was in fact not that hard and that i could indeed to better

[wild flare]

youtubers not always are good gamers 🙃

[tardy ingot]

Spiff is good tho

[wild flare]

never watched this guy so i believe you

[tardy ingot]

they just avoided outside information as well as they could and didnt spend the time trying to learn everything they could

[tiny wyvern]

I'm surprised they knew how to deal with spagetti dimension

[tardy ingot]

well spiff in general is pretty good at video games

hes now pretty good for gtfo, at the start of their R8E2 runs they were a lot worse tho

[prime musk]

when i watched the e2 video it was so weird

because comparing the clips at the start of the video to those at the end it doesn't look like the same player, the skill diff is huge

[tardy ingot]

it do be a multi month gap

[digital mural]

6 months?

Or was it more

[dusty basalt]

What main weapons can effectively always take out strikers in 1 shot from a distance? I've been using the Hanaway PSB double tap rifle, but I'm curious at what other options there are.

[tiny wyvern]

Sleeping or awake?

[dusty basalt]

both

[ocean spindle]

from mains not too much, slug shotgun at a distance but thats hitting headshots and it is not very worth it as it works better in short range really
DMR will oneshot any small with any % dmg booster

i think hel revo need like a 13% to also oneshot

something so

[tiny wyvern]

For sleeping ones there's more, but ye what sleepo said

[ocean spindle]

on specials, a fuck ton ksmdk really anything long range will probs oneshot

[tiny wyvern]

Double tap doesn't one shot with base, doesn't it?

[ocean spindle]

ah yes me the sleepy i mean sleepo

[ocean spindle]

it does if u hit the head and then the body with the burst

[dusty basalt]

head then body with the 2 shot burst

[tiny wyvern]

Huh I forgor

[ocean spindle]

thats why its pogchamp

oh i think burst rifle will oneshot if the entire burst hits the head but thats more as client

[soft crater]

Double tap has one of the highest ammo efficiencies in the game if you could one burst strikers/shooters consistently

[tiny wyvern]

it breaks the head before it kills most of the time

[dusty basalt]

Well, what if we ignore headshots, any main guns that always two shot strikers on the body from a distance?

[soft crater]

Slug at 7m

[ocean spindle]

two shot... dmr, carbine

hel revo

thats it really

sawed off is close range so

[errant dome]

what?

[tardy ingot]

imo the big question is

why are you looking for a 1 shot/2 shot (at distance?)?

[soft crater]

Dmr and revo need head

[dusty basalt]

I'll try the hel revolver, I don't think I've tried that one yet

[ocean spindle]

i guess burst pistol but thats also close range

[ocean spindle]

oh right

oops

i always think its 2 bodyshots on hel revo

[dusty basalt]

because I like semi auto guns and I have very high accuracy

[tiny wyvern]

eva asked something rather nice
cause unless you're on large tiles long range doesn't REALLY exist

It's more like mid range

[ocean spindle]

u can just use any semi on main really they are all good pretty much

sawed off is great

[grizzled patrol]

is it only me or double tap doesnt kill crawling strikers from the front?

[ocean spindle]

hel revo is too

[ocean spindle]

it does

[tiny wyvern]

male are you on host?

[ocean spindle]

its actually very easy to kill crawling strikers with dtr

[grizzled patrol]

idk always for some reason the 2nd bullet just gets deleted

[dusty basalt]

also, I'm doing completely solo no bot runs and I need a way to consistently take out swarms of strikers when I only have so many shots to reload

[tiny wyvern]

do solo runs even use dtr?

[hoary mason]

then sawed off/hel rifle

[ocean spindle]

sawed off its still a very good option here

[minor fractal]

Only DTR

On client, sometimes Carbine and Burst Rifle

[ocean spindle]

ur spending more time reloadng dtr than u would beee sawed off, but there is also a lot of good options-

[civic wave]

so for killing at distance the best gun would really be DMR, though no main at base will one shot from super far away (aside from DTR 1 burst if you manage to land that)

[minor fractal]

Oh right, Slug

[ocean spindle]

really if u care about winnin yes hel revo and stuff but otherwise, go at it with that u like idk

[civic wave]

it's also a question of what you're doing, why you want to kill from far away, how far is "far", and all that stuff

[tiny wyvern]

What main does solo no bots usually use?

He says he's doing that

[civic wave]

sawed off, because it's fucking sawed off

[minor fractal]

But you shouldn't be caring about whether or not your Main one-shots enemies very much, lots of Mains are stronger than DTR w/out it.

[tiny wyvern]

I see people solo with pdw/sawed off most of the time

Can't for the life of me do it myself

cause I'm bad

[hoary mason]

pdw not rly a decent solo gun lmao

[tiny wyvern]

eh I don't really know much of solo stuff

That's why i ask

[civic wave]

PDW would mainly be for thermal scope, but does thermal scope really offer much compared to the incomparable power of sawed off

[tiny wyvern]

one melts everything and fourshots giants

The other lets you see things in the dark sometimes

[ocean spindle]

but does make nice sounds

:3

[little pilot]

pdw lets u get feet pics of shadows

[whole grove]

Challenge sage?! Elite GTFO players? heh?

[little pilot]

get sub 11 on r3d1 and u get the role too

sub 16 gets u "speed"runner role

[whole grove]

lmfao really...just R3D1 sub 11

[little pilot]

#discord-announcements message have fun

[tidal quartz]

According to the rules, its basicly illegal to ask for help on old rundowns?

[hard nexus]

Several years ago yes