Ah now I get what you mean
#gtfo-related-questions
prime musk
zone 8
fathom ice
the key one?
safe cradle
wait huh there is a giant zone
the one that wants the key
prime musk
ye
safe cradle
has like 2-3 giants per room, it's a beeeg zone and has chance of hybrids IIRC
fathom ice
i'd just go long with triple surge on my tail ngl
prime musk
yeah maybe
prime musk
i solod with boosters once and never again
safe cradle
I can’t let you have one
What about Maddox?
tardy ingot
also this rarely happens even in the first few days 
ill probably do it tmrw after uni since im done with the tough stuff for the week then
fathom ice
also this rarely happens even in the first few days <a:Onikara_Error_500ezgif:12...
ty
saw u chatting so
had my dopamine rush now i just want to sleep
tardy ingot
contrary to popular belief, verifying isnt just clicking the button 
i do actually "have" to watch the video
fathom ice
partially? depends
ye that seems right
tardy ingot
ill usually check at least for some smaller things basically whether its actually the run you posted, same key and whether the finishing time matches up
fathom ice
yeah that's fair
errant dome
ah right i forgor its per session
fathom ice
ye
errant dome
ye aint no way im reading 100+k of dat shit unless i get paid for it lul
fathom ice
ye aint no way im reading 100+k of dat shit unless i get paid for it lul
it's usually 150+ resets
so
errant dome
oh trust me i know
i love rng!
jokes aside rng is the main reason why i rarely attempt any speedruns
errant dome
ive played enough gachas to realize that spending hours resetting is not how i want 2 spend my time 💀
errant dome
then u spend 10 mins into an r2e1 run and reset because you got ungodly shit scan rng :p
smthin like r8a1 i'll admit is mostly fine since scan rng is smoll, and u have more than just 1 key option
tardy ingot
R8A1 is way heavier influenced by straight up rng than R2E1
you are far more likely to reset an R8A1
scan rng changing 5-10 seconds in a run matters more when the run is a simple 5 min adventure over a chaotic 18+ min one
it also comes down to optimization and if you just wanna beat your pb or wr
many people aim only for record and dont run for fun and pb improvement
errant dome
i just personally really dont like rng when it comes 2 speedruns shrug idm rng when you can do fine with skill (like random enemy spots in gtfo, even with "bad" spawns just git gud and ur chilling). Speedruns tho? you have very lil leeway with rng, TECHNICALLY you dont need 100% perfect but its a very tiny leeway, anything else is reset, regardless of your skill, and I just dont like that.
But ofc, Its just my personal opinion on it, i simply dont like getting fucked by smthing i cant control.
errant dome
R8A1 is way heavier influenced by straight up rng than R2E1
i just used r2e1 as an example cause it was the 1st lvl i thought of with very volatile scan rng xd
minor fractal
then u spend 10 mins into an r2e1 run and reset because you got ungodly shit sca...
Tbh it's not that optimized rn
cell is the main RNG
But I'll agree the variance in how good/bad your time can be w/ the same performance is kind of stupid.
R5E1 and R7E1 are the most optimized E-tiers rn.
errant dome
cell is the main RNG
makes sense
errant dome
i just used r2e1 as an example cause it was the 1st lvl i thought of with very v...
i mean tbh im not 2 familiar with r2e1 speedrun, i used it as an example primarily for this 👆
tardy ingot
R5E1 and R7E1 are the most optimized E-tiers rn.
pff, easily r8e1 
minor fractal
isn't cell rng just first and last cell
Second cell is the most variance in a single roll.
tardy ingot
^
tardy ingot
theres a good few levels with minimal rng (which will only rly matter once you perfect most of the rest in the level)
R8A2sec is such a level
minor fractal
Last cell would be a lot of variance if not for baby carry, you have to spend a certain amount of time there anyway.
tardy ingot
it has 2 alarms that pose variance, but their time difference is for the most of it not that impactful yet
plus no key rng
tardy ingot
Last cell would be a lot of variance if not for baby carry, you have to spend a ...
its all gonna be doomed when you would need to bank on last room cell and leave baby at the start of the zone to get carried to the door during the cluster scans (not that it would ever happen in such an insane way)
sturdy glen
its all gonna be doomed when you would need to bank on last room cell and leave ...
atp we would probably have reverted back to ladder foam
and would not be fighting enemies
tardy ingot
Yea
native sun
Let spawn surge, down the person going back for cell, res them, no enemies aggro'ed on them now
mental bay
Is the pdw a good weapon? Or is it only good for shadow levels?
fathom ice
Is the pdw a good weapon? Or is it only good for shadow levels?
niche
mental bay
just because of the thermal im guessing?
fathom ice
pmuch
it works on levels without shadows
but u wanna bring it into shadows preferably
mental bay
alr alr
minor fractal
Autos in general are quite bad.
silent delta
wHaT aBoUt HeL sHoTgUn
past mesa
Hel shotty is an expectation
minor fractal
When you carve up the weapons
digital mural
Hel auto pistol?????
prime musk
you never really fire hel shotgun full auto anyways
silent delta
you never really fire hel shotgun full auto anyways
only if youre a COWARD
silent delta
precision rifle is the best full auto in the game
minor fractal
They are more like each other than what is meant by autos, bursts, or semis.
digital mural
precision rifle is the best full auto in the game
Short rifle*
silent delta
all you need is 30cps to get the best weapon in the game
can't click that fast? skill issue
minor fractal
Macro
Bottom Text
silent delta
i have a friend who can butterfly like 25 cps
minor fractal
I encountered a macro user in the wild, and it further confirms my belief that this just makes the gun worse.
silent delta
its honestly scary
lmao i tried it once just cuz i was curious
the recoil is stupid and you spend 90% of your time reloading
and your ammo goes in 15 seconds
digital mural
i have a friend who can butterfly like 25 cps
HMMMMM
i wonder what his fingers can do
fathom ice
do u know how much 25 cps is
silent delta
its a lot for not macroing/dragging
prime musk
ill never tell
this implies you know
silent delta
😈😈😈
silent delta
i can get 10
when i was hard sweating bedwars i used to be able to butterfly about 15
hit 20 a couple times
its not worth it, just use a macro hypixel can't tell 🥰
prime musk
sweating bedwars
thank god you have recovered
silent delta
lmao that wasnt even the worst of it
fathom ice
tf is a butterfly
silent delta
i have over 1800 hours in hypixel skyblock
silent delta
tf is a butterfly
i feel like its equally likely that you dont know and that you're joking
which is it
silent delta
its a clicking style
fathom ice
instead of one
silent delta
yeah
fathom ice
oh
silent delta
pointer+middle, use both to left click
fathom ice
20 is free then
silent delta
eh it takes a bit of elbow grease
but yeah
you can drag like 50 if you have the right hardware
silent delta
i agree
why i never bothered learning
seems like such a pain
i have friends who like buy $300 mice that pros say are good for drag clicking, gloves, drag tape, the works
like bro just butterfly
silent delta
oh yeah i know
fathom ice
well not completely but u get the point
silent delta
you can get good at combat or you can just click faster
one of those requires much less brainpower
fathom ice
💀
silent delta
ive played against people who macro crazy cps, its fuckin impossible to pvp them
you get into melee range itss over
minor fractal
I'm like 8CPS apparently.
fathom ice
Ray ure old
topaz anvil
Fishing rod strats go hard
minor fractal
I think SR is mostly limited by aim, tho.
topaz anvil
Why cps 10.2 when you could do 4 like a normal person
native sun
Bind M1 to mouse wheel scroll down
minor fractal
We going back to CS:GO bhop
silent delta
boooooo macroer 🍅🍅🍅
minor fractal
bind mwheelup +jump
silent delta
doom eternal moment
prime musk
bind m1 to mouse moving forwards
silent delta
gtfo keyboardless when
past mesa
I wish someone would show me their 25 clicks pre second
silent delta
according to the internet 8-10 is about average
minor fractal
We need to reinvent rolling for the mouse.
Actually, I guess gamers don't even have the option
Because it's two-handed
silent delta
rolling?
minor fractal
Tetris mashing tech.
prime musk
originally was arcade cabinet tech
prime musk
the controller becomes the button
minor fractal
You put one hand on the movement key, and use the other to bump the controller with X number of fingers according to the number of inputs.
silent delta
so you could quickly rotate the tetris piece into the proper orientation, i imagine?
minor fractal
You'd use it for moving side to side at very high gamespeeds
Because mashing is faster than holding
silent delta
youve gotten me onto a video about thge history of sweating tetris
that makes more sense
minor fractal
I just watched Summoning Salt tbh
silent delta
You'd use it for moving side to side at very high gamespeeds
this does
based summoning salt enjoyer
so what im hearing is i should beat the fuck out of the bottom of my desk for faster clickin
minor fractal
Toe dexterity is the final skill prog of GTFO
Need your whole body to play SR properly
silent delta
optimal play is to do gtfo in VR and roll the controllers
digital mural
i have over 1800 hours in hypixel skyblock
Wtf
silent delta
pabl im like 99% sure ive told you this before
digital mural
No You didnt
silent delta
oh
well
i have over 1800 hours in hypixel skyblock
most of that was in one year 🥰
digital mural
Was it worth it?
silent delta
no
digital mural
Good
silent delta
hypixel skyblock is a prison
dont play it
ive spent at least 200 hours fishing in minecraft
vivid token
is it too late to get into this game i cant find a game to save my life
prime musk
it's never too late
tardy ingot
is it too late to get into this game i cant find a game to save my life
have you opened lfg channels on here :o ?
vivid token
is the matchmaking system in game dead?
prime musk
in game mm is maybe not dead but it sucks
vivid token
have you opened lfg channels on here :o ?
i just joined like 1 min ago
prime musk
mm on discord (in here) is a lot better
digital mural
i just joined like 1 min ago
.t lfg
uneven gulchBOT
i just joined like 1 min ago
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
tardy ingot
is the matchmaking system in game dead?
not dead
but most active players prefer the system on discord (its been around before the ingame matchmaking) and the matchmaking system also isnt too well done
vivid token
ah i just dont feel like joining a vc
digital mural
Mm ingame sucks ass
So discord is the only good way to find people
You don't have to talk in VC
prime musk
there's a decent amount of mute players and it isn't really looked down upon
digital mural
A lot of people use the ingame text chat
vivid token
ok just cause im in a vc with my friends and i dont wanna leave to talk to strangers
prime musk
...oh
tardy ingot
well 
vivid token
ah
tardy ingot
dats gonna be hard (not impossible, but hard) to find people then
digital mural
You can't just join the lobby
tardy ingot
Well, you need to join a VC to join an LFG lobby
you dont
sometimes people do it without
its usually just weird cuz theres less commitment for people
digital mural
Yeah i know but its the most usual thing
You don't see just a post that actually gets a full lobby like that
And if You do its every 400 years
prime musk
if you're in vc with your friends you should play with them tbh
vivid token
idk i wanna get into this game but i tried a solo with bots and spent an hour looking for cells and rage quit
digital mural
Cells?
vivid token
power cells
prime musk
r3a2 maybe?
tardy ingot
idk i wanna get into this game but i tried a solo with bots and spent an hour lo...
the game definetly isnt easy to get into (mechanics/knowledge wise) without having either
- multiple friends to learn and derp together
- watching guides
- having someone with knowledge teach
vivid token
i think mm put me into r5...
silent delta
i think mm put me into r5...
you poor soul
silent delta
matchmaking is horrible
silent delta
ive used it twice and both times everyone else in hte lobby only spoke russian
silent delta
Worst than 200 hours fishing in Minecraft hypixel
lmao idk about that much
silent delta
i spent at least like 500 hours of that mining
and i got a fully kitted mining setup, more or less
i could make like 30 mil coins an hour
prime musk
yes
digital mural
Buy it for them :3
prime musk
convince them to buy it
silent delta
this game is definitely more fun if you have homies to play it with
digital mural
Suffer together
Die together
silent delta
but peopel on this server are fairly chill
sudden nexus
Buy it for them :3
spread the pain love!
silent delta
great to fill up a lobby or meet new people you vibe with
tardy ingot
im in a vc with my bf who dosent have the game none of my friends do
do he/do they not want it
or do they just not have it?
vivid token
do he/do they not want it
or do they just not have it?
both
tardy ingot
shame
digital mural
this game is definitely more fun if you have homies to play it with
👨❤️💋👨
tardy ingot
always should have a spare key or so around
vivid token
i work part time retail i dont have the money to throw out keys like that
silent delta
use disboard to find random servers, get a voice changer, pretend to be an egirl, get a dude to buy it for you
digital mural
Honestly i wouldnt buy the game for someone else Even if i had the money to
tardy ingot
the last time I made a groups day by basically giving them a 50% discount for the last 2 members 
silent delta
ts easy
digital mural
This game has a really low player retention rate
1/4
And most of them quit anyways really fast
silent delta
the r1c1 wall claims many victims
digital mural
Pubs got better since i first joined
Now they give up mid R2
tardy ingot
its crazy btw
tardy ingot
ive met like 4 people IRL recently who knew about gtfo
silent delta
really?
tardy ingot
one legit asked me when I wore one of the shirts
silent delta
like, who've played it, or who've heard of it?
tardy ingot
3 who heard, 1 who has it
vivid token
i just wanted to check it out cause im hyped for dow
digital mural
GTFO and DoW Will be very different games btw
silent delta
this game is definitely very unique, and its not for everyone
vivid token
i know that
silent delta
but speaking from personal experience, i love it
if they dont put pablo in dow im rioting
digital mural
if they dont put pablo in dow im rioting
We are
silent delta
We are
both of them
i want them to put you in the game and you have tank pablo as an alter ego
like the hulk
sudden nexus
they should add spitters to dow that would be so cool and noone would hate that as an idea
silent delta
as long as they add 
too
tardy ingot
imagine if spitters werent a dmg explosion
but fired a projectile if you were around
dodge simulator
silent delta
dont give the devs any ideas
i like the damage explosion, it means we can teamwipe to zits on r5e1
and its funny
silent delta
if i shined my light on them they actually fucking go to sleep
prime musk
shining big flashlight on them for 3 seconds actually means it is dead when i pass
tardy ingot
spitter hallway of death in r2b4
digital mural
God i could go past the same hall way for the 10th time and i always fucking forget they are there
tardy ingot
losing between 10 and 50% hp in speedruns
digital mural
I hate them
silent delta
that one fuckin room in r2d1
prime musk
do r2b4 speeds care about which zone turbine spawns in
digital mural
that one fuckin room in r2d1
Which one fucking room? Theres like 5 in that level
silent delta
lmao fair enough
the one im thinking of is u go through the first key door, take a right
that round room w the truck in it
literal wallpaper
prime musk
the one that always has a fucking scout in it
silent delta
real
prime musk
i had my friend die to the spitters while going for the scout kill
silent delta
did the scout go off?
prime musk
no
prime musk
they were just entering the room scout was on other side
"im going for the scout kill"
immediately dies entering room
prime musk
we then shot the scout and backtracked to find a huge flashlight
silent delta
the genre of clip of
"I GOT IT"
"man down"
is my favorite
prime musk
it's so good
native sun
we then shot the scout and backtracked to find a huge flashlight
You can shoot spitters to disable them for a lil while (they will explode when you shoot them though)
Flashlight good too ofc
prime musk
spitters really should be killable permanently with melee or something
hardy grotto
we're so fucking back
frail heart
Bazinga!!!!
Guys take this offer it wont happen ever again!!!!!!
@humble night for you
humble night
I GOT THIS
old mountain
frail heart
dont worry, hani will handle this
prime musk
dont worry, hani will handle this
(did you catch my reply?)
frail heart
(did you catch my reply?)
yur
hasty crane
any tips on r3d1
the constant alarm spawns feel random
sometimes they spawn behind us, other times in front of us, and sometime right on top of us in our room
flat oar
dont split apart more than 2 rooms it gonna spawn on top
if split 1 3 it gonna spawn on top of 1 person im not sure for this
prime musk
simplified slightly, every error wave will pick a player at random and then pick a room 2 from that player at random and spawn the wave there
staying either 3 rooms apart or more. or 1 rooms apart or less, ensures enemies never spawn on top
prime musk
any tips on r3d1
the constant alarm spawns feel random
sometimes they spawn behi...
do alarm asap
loot for ammo, get baby to blood door and mine it, and get alarm done
then just beeline to class 6 escorting neonate carrier - shoot up rooms and look for ammo/tool/med to prepare for the alarm. usually there is more than enough in the last 2 rooms in zone, but open anything you pass by
wait for error wave and then full send neonate through the mist
if key is in 389 it's in the small room down left 99% of the time and if it's in 390 it's in the 2 rooms up to the right 99% of the time (numbers not exact point is it's the vast vast vast majority of the time so you don't need to ping the key. just run to those rooms, check all lockers and get key and get out. looting these zones is definitely not worth it.)
hasty crane
thanks for the tips
grizzled patrol
any tips on r3d1
the constant alarm spawns feel random
sometimes they spawn behi...
There is Sometimes a Secret foam Nade on the left Side from the drop Point 
prime musk
is r5c3 known to have performance issues
im getting lagspikes/framedrops and i have never gotten it on any other expedition
low radish
im getting lagspikes/framedrops and i have never gotten it on any other expediti...
maybe the error?
the stiker one i mean
ocean spindle
shouldn't have any issues it is a pretty big but normal level
stiff hearth
shouldn't have any issues it is a pretty big but normal level
Back in the days i had an abnormal amount of crashes specifically in r5c3
ocean spindle
Back in the days i had an abnormal amount of crashes specifically in r5c3
in the day as in the same version that exists now cuz i don't think it's ever been changed
stiff hearth
in the day as in the same version that exists now cuz i don't think it's ever be...
idk how to use back in the days
dropped gtfo, now i play remnant II
prime musk
shouldn't have any issues it is a pretty big but normal level
it seems unrelated to size because i've been playing r4c2 all week and had no issues
prime musk
@fathom ice wdym
fathom ice
<@415225476131323915> wdym
ppl use perfect boosters since idk how long
fathom ice
average
prime musk
truee
soft crater
Based pub newbie
I still recall a guy who wanted us all to use Arbalist.
For a reactor
That has chargers/hybrids/giants/bbcs
prime musk
r4d1 moment
soft crater
I miss old Arbalist and when it still had a better reload cancel
prime musk
honestly if mgs had lower recoil and better reload i think they'd be fine
soft crater
Pre rework arby shot a bit faster but not as much dmg
Then they made it slow with 5 dmg per shot
prime musk
if they had better breakpoints it'd be nice too
arbalist getting 6.7 or something would make it like infinitely better
soft crater
I rather have that on HAR ngl
HAR has speed over Arbalist in the 5 dmg area but less ammo
prime musk
ig
fathom ice
solace would u always play HAR if it'd had double stock/clip
soft crater
solace would u always play HAR if it'd had double stock/clip
I'd need to calculate the ammo costs with that increase
fathom ice
oh my god not the math
tardy ingot
just give har its og r6 recoil back lol
fathom ice
ifo would put u in a grave
tardy ingot
While not good
It would be fun
soft crater
While not good
It would be fun
Pretty much the only reason I take HAR sometimes
For fun over efficency
mortal tide
The MGs in the base game are so frustrating to me
Especially after using the one in duo trials
ocean spindle
i no like most modded guns they feel very weightless
at least veruta kinda feels like ur doing something
meanwhile most mgs modded feel no recoil at all
or at least i've seen
soft crater
The MGs in the base game are so frustrating to me
Especially after using the on...
Modded guns moment
floral acorn
prime musk
@civic wave maybe it's a skill issue but half my attempts die before even reaching the class 2 because of shit enemy placement
half of the remaining die because the class 3 kinda hard tbh
and half of the ones that make it there die because shit enemy placement in key zone
it's just rng im just not interested in grinding that shit
civic wave
enemy variance goes so fucking hard
there are days when most your runs die to the 10 thousand sleeping enemies in first alarm zone and you can't do shit but die
prime musk
it's genuinely mindblowing to me that it's unseeded gtfo speeds that are run
feels like seeded is much more interesting and skill based
civic wave
key zone can suck especially
you can get 2 giants and 6 sleepers on path or you can get 2 smalls in the entire room
the class alarm tile fucking blows but i've gotten so many attempts in that it's no bother anymore and i'm quite fine for the alarm
prime musk
it's pretty bad but burst sentry carries so hard that it's usually fine
combat shotgun is really fucking good
civic wave
ya combat shotgun goes hard
prime musk
i die when im hit with the "15 shooters somewhere in the fucking bushes that i can't hit"
civic wave
SO TRUE
prime musk
especially the ones that spawn in the room already
because they already surround you
yeah idk it feels like so much rng it's not worth it
maybe when i finish all the solos i want to get i go back to solo speeds
frail heart
feels like seeded is much more interesting and skill based
seeded runs would not be skill based
you get route -> you optimise it like a bot saving ms along the way
prime musk
frosty
did you know that's what speedruns are
in like every single game ever
(there are rare exceptions ig)
and whether it's skill based or not is kinda irrelevant tbh, the important part is that it isn't rng based
fundamentally if what is being competed for isn't best execution it's best execution + rng
tardy ingot
i die when im hit with the "15 shooters somewhere in the fucking bushes that i c...
THEY ARE IN THE TREES
tardy ingot
and whether it's skill based or not is kinda irrelevant tbh, the important part ...
sadly a huge amount of speedruns are rng based
solo gtfo just makes every little thing count twice as much
so it feels insane
frail heart
in like every single game ever
no?
prime musk
sorry, all speedruns that are run by more than 10 people total
prime musk
so it feels insane
no doubt rng matters less in duo/4man
tardy ingot
sorry, all speedruns that are run by more than 10 people total
You mean like cuphead, alien isolation, hollow knight, lethal company, hades, subnautica, stardew valley etc etc?
prime musk
since when is cuphead rng based
the rest of the games maybe idk but hollow knight seems to be like 0 rng at least from an outside perspective (i've never played it)
my point is that every game either is optimising exact execution to save ms or is on its way there
and making that ms execution grind rng dependent makes everything suck more for everyone who is trying to optimise shit
tardy ingot
since when is cuphead rng based
Have you… not seen cuphead speedruns?
they are super hard and rng
tardy ingot
my point is that every game either is optimising exact execution to save ms or i...
this is unironically quite rare
Mario is one thats hyper optimized by ms
speedruns specifcially can make the funniest things rng
Like alien isolation and face hugger tricks/kills
tardy ingot
i have not seen cuphead speedruns
Id recommend tomatoanus video on it
Its a great watch and shows how fucked it is (honest recommendation)
prime musk
ig i can watch it later before i go to bed
prime musk
this is unironically quite rare
Mario is one thats hyper optimized by ms
im bad at communication
either it's ms optimisation or it is rng, the latter of which eventually becomes the former once enough grinding has happened
tardy ingot
yea generally i can agree with that
Gtfo has 1 skill focused level
Which is the tutorial
where the top time is counted in milliseconds
tardy ingot
4:06.~7
its actually longer than a few levels in a full stack
but theres only absolute marginal rng
That being enemy orientation, movement once awoken and ressource locker distribution (which doesnt rly matter)
prime musk
i see
soft crater
where the top time is counted in milliseconds
Who has death speedrun wr?
I know you've attempted but who has the fastest millisecond
frail heart
also most games have multiple categories
seeded and unseeded
but games where rng is set dont need both
soft crater
I need to see if any level has a logless run
Just browsing. Everyone I've seen had logs used.
civic wave
I know you've attempted but who has the fastest millisecond
Ellda i think? idk check leaderboards
soft crater
Ellda i think? idk check leaderboards
At least on speedrun.com it's Eva unironically.
Ah wait
That's for a striker
digital mural
Omg Clownlace ia back
soft crater
Seeing that Eva did a Shooter death speedrun is hilarious
timber jackal
Could someone explain how the LFG system works? I tried looking for information about it in the welcome and info section and there was nothing there
oh, nvm, I'm dumb, theres a how to matchmake chanel in looking for group
tiny wyvern
Could someone explain how the LFG system works? I tried looking for information ...
#how-to-matchmake
Essentially, make a lobby, make a vc, follow the format in the #how-to-matchmake channel and vola
soft crater
.t lfg
uneven gulchBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
soft crater
slender zenith
if you foam an enemy will it wake up after? curious cuz it turned red on bio...
digital mural
if you foam an enemy will it wake up after? curious cuz it turned red on bio...
No
Only if You touch it/damage it
slender zenith
if you dont touch it should it stay white or red on bio
digital mural
Only enemies that move/wake up turn red
slender zenith
so that means it was touched if it turned red after foaming?
slender zenith
mm ok interesting
frail heart
Foam sleep enemy turn it red in bio
^
frail heart
Only enemies that move/wake up turn red
WRONG
frail heart
BAD AT THE GAME
digital mural
True
slender zenith
ty!
lone mortar
BAD AT THE GAME
No1 arguments are won this way
errant dome
Like alien isolation and face hugger tricks/kills
ah yes i remember watching a lil bit of those
pray that face huggers align so u can kill them with 1 shotgun shell
or get fked
safe cradle
Id recommend tomatoanus video on it
Its a great watch and shows how fucked it is...
...that's quite the nickname.
mortal tide
Fun fact, for AGDQ they had to rename him to TomatoAngus
tardy ingot
Who has death speedrun wr?
Ellda (mines)
topaz anvil
He's cracked
safe cradle
I always get Edhellas and Ellda confused
topaz anvil
Ellda is the cool one
civic wave
i know (of) multiple elldas
soft crater
There are multiple Goats as well. Though all the other Goat named players seem to have left / stopped playing gtfo
wild flare
Only one true Goat left 👑
hasty crane
Can you c foam a mother with the gun? I have only seen it done with grenades
hasty crane
My team is on r3d1 and the constant alarm ends with spawning a mother
I just wanted to know if we could c foam the stairs up to us and she would get stuck on the way
digital mural
Can you c foam a mother with the gun? I have only seen it done with grenades
yes
1 and a half charges needed
unless you stack blobs
hasty crane
Thank you guys
low radish
My team is on r3d1 and the constant alarm ends with spawning a mother
I just wan...
You could try it but she wwould need to run ovver them first
It's better to use a grenade, if you wwill find one keep one
Actually keep twwo for the finale
digital mural
My team is on r3d1 and the constant alarm ends with spawning a mother
I just wan...
i dont recommend doing that
moms dont usually push you and dont spawn babies unless they have line of sight
deal with the enemies first and push her, some people can take care of the babies while the other run at her
low radish
I recommend hel shotgun for babies for example
Or a machinegun or different shotguns
If you havve issues wwith babies
digital mural
someone with scatter or BC can take the mother with no problem
tardy ingot
My team is on r3d1 and the constant alarm ends with spawning a mother
I just wan...
Its rly not worth it tho
she might not rush up for a while (and theres gonna be other enemies coming up still)
do you know how to deal with a mom?
aka 1 or 2 guys clear babies with applicable guns and then 1 other scattergun goes pew pew
low radish
Yes scatter is generally the best for mini-bosses
tardy ingot
scatter is always the best unless ||kraken ||
topaz anvil
Scatter? I prefer Soul Sniper 😔
hasty crane
i dont recommend doing that
moms dont usually push you and dont spawn babies un...
If we push her then we have to fight blind in that infection room
We've wiped on mom twice after dealing with the alarm
low radish
You can wwait on top of the stairs in the HSU room, walk back towwards the room (make sure you have no Los) and she should come onto the stairs
hasty crane
Scatter? I prefer Soul Sniper 😔
Solo trials mentioned
low radish
Solo trials mentioned
And pretty much a lot of other mods
low radish
You can wwait on top of the stairs in the HSU room, walk back towwards the room ...
Then just run and kill her
tardy ingot
If we push her then we have to fight blind in that infection room
We've wiped on...
fog repellers
- bio tracker shows where she is
topaz anvil
Solo trials mentioned
Visitor actually 
digital mural
tank the infection
hasty crane
Visitor actually <:Nerdge:1048235343230533632>
Damn I'm washed
digital mural
i like to do that
tardy ingot
tank the infection
i guess they are more worried about the visibility and not the infection
digital mural
i guess they are more worried about the visibility and not the infection
biotrackeeeeeeer
topaz anvil
only og weapons allowed
low radish
I mean if you get 100% infection you wwill die from a baby
digital mural
only og weapons allowed
AR and shotgun
low radish
There is a disinfection station though so it shouldn't happen
topaz anvil
AR and shotgun
smg 😍
tardy ingot
I mean if you get 100% infection you wwill die from a baby
if you stay in the fog for 5 minutes maybe
digital mural
unless you are already at like 60% before going into the fog you should be okay for the most part
low radish
There's the station
digital mural
hasty crane
Yeah most of us are on low enough health getting there that the infection doesn't matter
tardy ingot
why machine pistol
topaz anvil
hel pp 
hasty crane
why machine pistol <a:Onikara_Error_500ezgif:1236711267356639264>
Cause we have put 4 hours into runs and I'm trying stuff out. It works decently well
tardy ingot
well
hasty crane
I'm the runner that needs to open doors and sprint into rooms
tardy ingot
then especially machine pp isnt that great
tbh all full auto mains are pretty weak (hel pp kinda being an exception due to its stagger focus + pen)
topaz anvil
Sniper is a good choice 
hasty crane
Normally I like the base pistol or hel revolver
But I need a bit more ammo
tardy ingot
what?
minor fractal
Normally I like the base pistol or hel revolver
But I need a bit more ammo
Chances are you are net losing ammo on MP.
tardy ingot
r3d1 has so much ammo
minor fractal
^
tardy ingot
also what ray said
machine pp is only efficient in theory
you will just not get that ammo effectively
minor fractal
If you just need something you can unload on things
tardy ingot
hel revo even without pen is most likely more efficient
minor fractal
probably sawed-off is better
hasty crane
I am a big fan of the sawed off
tardy ingot
probably sawed-off is better
the "probably" unironically gets me ray xD
prime musk
if you're scared of fighting mom in the fog just have everyone stand at the back of the neonate room and she'll walk up the stairs
tardy ingot
if you're scared of fighting mom in the fog just have everyone stand at the back...
it might take a minute (or 5) but yea
learning how to deal with the mom in the fog is good tho
prime musk
ye
disinfecting and medding up before and rushing mom even without foggies is fine, you'll likely take chip negating any loss from infection anyways
hasty crane
Where is a good spot to pull the charger room to afterwards?
Cause we burst cannoned the charger scout and got overwhelmed trying to hold the room entrance
tardy ingot
and even if you just go to 20% theres an overflow of ressources in the level
tardy ingot
Where is a good spot to pull the charger room to afterwards?
Cause we burst cann...
you can hold the enemies coming on the staircase, you can fall back further down the small hallway, you can fall back even further yadda yadda
hasty crane
Makes sense
tardy ingot
depending on what weapons you have it can be easier or harder
holding that room with say arbalists and sniper is gonna be rough
prime musk
you said you had burst cannon so it'll be fine
tardy ingot
it will always be fine
but imagine if burst cannon + 3 arbalists
or burst cannon and revolvers
prime musk
i don't have to imagine i pubbed r3d1 me holding burst cannon and everyone else holding mg (one guy was holding revo but revo also sucks for that room)
that holding worked fine
hasty crane
it will always be fine
but imagine if burst cannon + 3 arbalists
Thanks for the help
Also a fan of your speedrun videos, that stuff is cool
Have a great day
prime musk
(given rayalot mg play might be cracked)
topaz anvil
Fellas the cheese strats are crazy today
tardy ingot
thats what I mean
if you are good enough any gun will do
zed ive done 4 snipers + melee only
and revo only
both full clearing the rooms (no tools for either)
prime musk
ye ive seen the videos
tardy ingot
but if you are struggling on the level it will make a noticeable difference
like people dying on r1c1 can clear with hel rifle over some weak gun they dont perform well on
minor fractal
i don't have to imagine i pubbed r3d1 me holding burst cannon and everyone else ...
We had choke and HCP
They just... idk what they were doing.
prime musk
oh in previous attempt they had revo and mg
also ty for r5e1 clear it was a very humbling experience
maybe weapon restriction is why i felt not very helpful but idk there's a long way to go still (positive motivation)
minor fractal
HAR is very bad for it, low ammo pool and doesn't super fulfill any roles besides baby clear and being nice on surge.
We'd done it previously trying to go fast-ish, but we had slug+short rifle instead.
(our MG was choke, also)
prime musk
maybe should've taken pr instead i just wanted something that deals damage even at cost of shit ammo
minor fractal
SR genuinely goes hard, having someone that can clear error wave efficiently is quite nice.
I'm not sure how to feel about PR there tbh, it felt really nice when we went fast, but there's a lot of time I spend not doing things because PR is expensive to shoot.
prime musk
what do you even shoot with pr?
tank mom and small?
base damage per refill kinda low so throwing it into chargers/bigs seems bad
minor fractal
If I need to kill a hybrid w/out chill, or we're fighting a mix of giants and hybrids, otherwise yeah it's just mom/tank that it's for.
But it's also just a wave clear gun that I can shoot at bosses.
minor fractal
If you ban Scatter/BC, it genuinely has pretty high burst.
prime musk
it has decent breakpoints too, 3 shot on hybrid is good
minor fractal
Oh yeah, I guess it does answer hybrids half-well.
prime musk
it's equivalent to 2 burst with bc in terms of ammo efficiency
unborn sundial
Can someone explain to me how the Fog Mechanic works in R4B2? When my team played it and we were doing the overload, all of the rooms were so foggy we couldn't see anything despite us plugging in 3 cells into the generator cluster since the wiki said plugging a cell lowered the fog... which didnt happen for us
carmine grotto
dont plug the cells till youre ready to go
the main will be foggy asf but youll save yourself from the overload fog
minor fractal
Can someone explain to me how the Fog Mechanic works in R4B2? When my team playe...
Fog "lowers" with each cell inserted
2nd cell, iirc, flips the fog so that instead of being above you and extending upwards infinitely, it is below you and extends downwards infinitely.
Overload is in at a low elevation, so if you flip the fog that entire objective is fucked
It's best to insert no cells at all.
civic wave
^^ you "lower" the fog from the top to the bottom
so yeah, lower it and overload is foggy
tiny wyvern
You CAN still complete it though you'll probably run into some surprises along the way
Killing the error usually is fine enough
sturdy glen
Oh yeah, I guess it does answer hybrids half-well.
ngl we probably couldve just run 2 choke mods 2 snipers
hardy grotto
Where’s the fun in that
civic wave
Choke my sniper baby sniper baby
jish i am having a stroke trying to read the second half of this message
it's worse than buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo
sturdy glen
is that supposed to be whistle
topaz anvil
yes
past mesa
jish i am having a stroke trying to read the second half of this message
If you ask nicely I can maybe give you guidance and teach you the ways
sage wren
is it important to find people to play with, or is playing with bots fine?
tiny wyvern
is it important to find people to play with, or is playing with bots fine?
Define 'fine'
If fine is a generally pleasing experience, that generally holds up for the earlier levels
They aren't stupidly op like pd2 bots, and their logic and bugs break your hopes and dreams sometimes
But they can work
not for certain levels
If you dislike playing with others just play the levels with bots for as long as you can and when you hit a wall lfg
sage wren
ight
sage wren
If you dislike playing with others just play the levels with bots for as long as...
many thank to you
crystal blaze
Choke my sniper baby sniper baby
Are you trying to parody that one song?
crystal blaze
https://tenor.com/view/josh-hutcherson-josh-hutcherson-whistle-edit-whistle-2014...
Embed fail
Laugh at this idiot
digital mural
:(
crystal blaze
:)
soft crater
upbeat epoch
Do knife's bonus back stab charge mults scale with partial charges? or is it all or nothing type thing?
prime musk
i believe it is static and does not scale with charging
tiny wyvern
Do knife's bonus back stab charge mults scale with partial charges? or is it all...
Back multi only depends on the angle
prime musk
not the knifes bonus backstab multi
it's always 1.7x
(for the 180 degrees for which it applies)
oh nvm it does scale
(with charge)
upbeat epoch
oh nvm it does scale
So like if i charge up 50% it would increase the back mult by 1.35?
prime musk
So like if i charge up 50% it would increase the back mult by 1.35?
if im reading wiki correctly it scales cubically
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/xoqiwm74ow
like this as i understand it
(y is back multi, x is charge in fraction, 0 being nothing at 1 being full)
upbeat epoch
alright thank you
prime musk
both the precision and sleeping multipliers scale the same way (just replace the 1.7 with 1.5 in the desmos and you get their scaling graphs)
hasty crane
My squad encountered a glitch during an alarm where the c foam and turrets were going through a closed door while enemies where beating it down
And so we could not re-c-foam it for the alarm
Any idea what causes this and how to prevent it from happening again?
hasty crane
Ty
knotty relic
2nd cell, iirc, flips the fog so that instead of being above you and extending u...
Bro this is the only thing I read and the first thing I thought of was Variscite because my team had like 9 attempts on that level before we got our first win. Probably 5 or 6 attempts before we figure out how the fog actually works pertaining to the Overload.
mental bay
For the Controlled response achievement, am I able to use a sentry or is it just my pistol/revolvers?
Complete any B-tier expedition alone with only pistols or revolvers equipped as main and secondary.
turbid horizon
For the Controlled response achievement, am I able to use a sentry or is it just...
You can use any tool
turbid horizon
As long as you have only pistols/revolvers, you can use any other equipment
personally recommend R1B1 for it
you only need to do 1 class II alarm
But if you want to go with another level, go for it
tardy ingot
R6B1 is a fun one
turbid horizon
Yeah
2 class 4’s with good funnels and a class V with a split
difficult but fun
turbid horizon
difficult but fun
(For newer soloists)
mental bay
What about for the achievement for the A tier. Can I use tool for that one?
Complete any a-tier expedition without using main or secondary weapon
turbid horizon
I don’t remember but as long as it doesn’t specify no tool, probably
mental bay
alr alr
turbid horizon
What about for the achievement for the A tier. Can I use tool for that one?
@tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
can we get a nighterlev guide for this
mental bay
I don’t remember but as long as it doesn’t specify no tool, probably
what level would you reecomend? Im doing it solo
turbid horizon
what level would you reecomend? Im doing it solo
No idea, i never got that achievement legit
modded broke and gave it to me
so i never tried
mental bay
oh okay
turbid horizon
but probably R7A1
has some cfoam nades iirc
And is like the easiest level
also i think it has melee syringes for big guys
mental bay
Okay ill try it
tardy ingot
what level would you reecomend? Im doing it solo
i would recommend not doing it solo
bots dont work sadly since they... shoot
the issue with solo is that you probably would need to cfoam cheese alarms, long kite or go MEGA ham with knife
mental bay
oh
mental bay
bots dont work sadly since they... shoot
Yeah unfortunately
turbid horizon
bots dont work sadly since they... shoot
oh yeah i forgot that part
prime musk
i feel like running knife might fail just because a giant shows up and it's just over
forced kiting or something
at the same time running hammer is doomed during alarms because stamina will run out immediately
mental bay
I just shot my gun instinctively 😭
mental bay
at the same time running hammer is doomed during alarms because stamina will run...
What about the bat? Or is stamina the same problem?
prime musk
less of a problem, but it really doesn't do well enough against giants to make a difference
wet bear
Just get good 👍
tardy ingot
you rly just dont solo melee alarms unless you kite
and at that point
why even bother
prime musk
when i did some r8a1 solos i full meleed the class 2 a couple of times
though that alarm is kinda special because you finish scans before first enemy shows up ig
i might try r8a1 knife only seems like it could be fun
tardy ingot
i might try r8a1 knife only seems like it could be fun
THEY ARE IN THE TREES
prime musk
so true
wet bear
THEY ARE IN THE TREES
Giants on trees💀
turbid horizon
it’s more likely than you think
wet bear
It became russian speedrun joke after one runner claimed that there's a giant but no one could find it
Ptsd is real
wet bear
it’s more likely than you think
Tgb even posted a suggestion for bbcs on trees on modded
safe cradle
British Broadcasting Company's good?
candid heron
Somewhat
prime musk
i might try r8a1 knife only seems like it could be fun
it went ok and then i got hit with a giant at extraction
went long and got hit by another giant running up stairs and died
prime musk
it's ok we gamble and go again
hardy grotto
i love gambling
prime musk
gtfo
ocean spindle
why do enemies on r1b1 go through the door below
is it cuz they dont see the elevation change as see it as closer
past mesa
I think he does mean the class 3
prime musk
the answer is no one fucking knows because the pathing is super scuffed
enemies can and will path through extra rooms to get to you sometimes
ocean spindle
i never seen that happen
prime musk
in fact ive have enemies leave the room im in to path through a different room to enter again through a different door
minor fractal
why do enemies on r1b1 go through the door below
It is physically closest to the entrance to the room
tiny wyvern
There's like a small gap I think they think is passable
I'll try to draw it out, give me a sec I'll grab the map...
minor fractal
Like, if you draw a straight line between the zone door and the metal door
The lower door is way closer
ocean spindle
I'll try to draw it out, give me a sec I'll grab the map...
no i know which one but they cant go through it
only players
ocean spindle
It is physically closest to the entrance to the room
so it is what i thought
thank uuuu
god gamer
unborn glen
whats the general ranking of hardest missions? like, the top ten
digital mural
whats the general ranking of hardest missions? like, the top ten
R8E2, R4E1/R5E1, R7E1, R5D1, R2E1, R4C3, R5C2, R8D2
unborn glen
tracks that the E missions are on the upper end
frail heart
R8E2, R4E1/R5E1, R7E1, R5D1, R2E1, R4C3, R5C2, R8D2
ngl r5d1 isnt hard its just long
digital mural
ngl r5d1 isnt hard its just long
I didnt made the tier list
Tru made it i believe
Its somewhere in media i just saved the image
digital mural
Nah it's not
frail heart
above r2e1 is crazy
digital mural
Just boring af
unborn glen
long missions are a different kind of difficult
digital mural
Difficult at staying awake
And also wasting a lot of time when wiping
That can be painful
digital mural
Sometimes i feel R4/R5 throw so much shit for no reason
So instead of being difficult fun it becomes difficult annoying
unborn glen
tbh glad to see that R4C3 is on the list bc oh my god did we struggle for prisoner efficiency
good to know it was not us being bad, its just genuinely difficult
wild flare
deserved
ocean spindle
Sometimes i feel R4/R5 throw so much shit for no reason
only the first rows really, and there's exceptions with some being actually kinda fun like a2 cuz funni
the C D and E tiers are pretty fine
safe cradle
good to know it was not us being bad, its just genuinely difficult
It's perhaps the hardest C in the game
grizzled patrol
Sometimes i feel R4/R5 throw so much shit for no reason
i love that random mom in R4C2. truly one of the why not? moments
crystal blaze
i love that random mom in R4C2. truly one of the *why not?* moments
At least she was sleeping in the room (R4D1 and R5A2 flashbacks)
digital mural
the C D and E tiers are pretty fine
R4D1 and R4E1 are really fun so yeah in that i agree
ocean spindle
in r5
digital mural
And R5E1 is only one i find fun really :b
ocean spindle
u goof
safe cradle
sleep is for weak
take that back
crystal blaze
I feel like a dehydrated man watching a man drown to death
thin gazelle
can we get a nighterlev guide for this
lol why are you talking about me here
fathom ice
LMAO RAY
hardy grotto
jish
hardy grotto
in an r4e1 recently
past mesa
What up Beth
hardy grotto
i limb broke a giant and immediately tabbed out to respond to ray with "ye"
while staying in melee range of giant
wild flare
giant tabbed out too
past mesa
That is going in the style guide
hardy grotto
NOOOOO that makes me a style player
past mesa
Beth I think it is time to make a style guide
Now that you taught players to shoot
It is now time to teach them to throw
minor fractal
That's Chill's burden
Just like the stealth guide is my burden
And the Scatter guide is your burden
sturdy glen
I eated it
hardy grotto
I’ll make the alt tab guide
Best places to tab out
at security doors, after clearing a wave, after checking bio
During enemy scream
errant dome
During stealth scans while the rest of your team does it for you
hardy grotto
A classic
errant dome
I still dont understand the point of stealth scans ngl xd
like r5c1 is the only lvl i can think of where i wouldnt just shoot regardless (and even then if its pubs good chance someone wakes up the room anyways)
tardy ingot
to give players the option to avoid killing
this wasnt actually too bad in some cases when you encountered the level in the rundowns order
see R5C1, R5E1
R6C1
and then theres litteraly stupid stealth scans
like R4E1 or R8E2
minor fractal
at security doors, after clearing a wave, after checking bio
I think there's room if you're swinging melee and know it will hit
You can tab out while you wait for the swing to connect
errant dome
see R5C1, R5E1
R6C1
fair enuf about r5e1, but wasnt r6c1 stealth scan the scout room? maybe im just 2 used 2 killing scouts but i feel like its not needed there
errant dome
im gonna wake scouts doing this
just tab in, 1 tap the scout, tab out while enemy is screaming/winding up 2 hit you
profit
tardy ingot
fair enuf about r5e1, but wasnt r6c1 stealth scan the scout room? maybe im just ...
5 scout room yes
for beginners going into r6c1 it was a good thing to have stealth scans. but they also had the option to foam them with the lots of cfoam grenades available
wet bear
5 scout room yes
for beginners going into r6c1 it was a good thing to have steal...
Or pull and shoot them
native sun
The R6C1 stealth scan is perfect, my beginner group sent one person to stealth past the scouts and we were horrified when those green circles popped up
topaz anvil
The R6C1 stealth scan is *perfect*, my beginner group sent one person to stealth...
Exactly what it should do
tardy ingot
yup
digital mural
It's effective against hordes of enemies
Or medium size groups
And if You use it against single enemies then make sure to be really close
tardy ingot
Its not like its bad against singulars
digital mural
Eva
tardy ingot
but yea short range
digital mural
For mother it would be to kill the babies
Sawed off is way better against the mom
You can use Hel shotgun against the mom but i think it's way better and more safer for You to take care of the babies and then your team of the mom
hard nexus
You can use Hel shotgun against the mom but i think it's way better and more saf...
counterpoint: hel shotgun bad
ocean spindle
i'm curious on how the limb breaks and stuff works on the animations
is it like it swaps model when u deal enough damage, or is it that the mode just has "breakable" parts that disappear when you deal the damage?
like if u remove the upper off a striker, does it change model or is it the same but making the part disappear
flat oar
idk about it but when giant shadow limb break if look it with thermal sight that bodypart completely disappear including legs.it look like it floating
ocean spindle
yeah, thats cuz only the skin is like textured so if u see it with the light it also just looks like it has nothing
so with the thermal they probs thought to not change it anyway cuz why bother
or maybe its to make the same effect as the normal light idk
alpine mural
so im prolly going to put this in tech support but is R2D1 just currently impossible?
after putting in the 3rd cell the game simply breaks completely; audio stops working, interacting with a terminal results in a softlock, and the game will simply crash if you idle for two long
anyone else having this issue?
prime musk
just to double check, this has happened exactly as you put in the 3rd cell at least 2 times?
prime musk
r2d1 is definitely clearable in current game version (i and many, many more have done it) so it has to be some weird bug or local issue
alpine mural
r2d1 is definitely clearable in current game version (i and many, many more have...
ill verify game files rq just incase
prime musk
(also was the game restarted between the occurrences?)
alpine mural
(also was the game restarted between the occurrences?)
yes
prime musk
oh no
errant dome
so im prolly going to put this in tech support but is R2D1 just currently imposs...
thats... odd, its best if you put follow the instructions and put the logs in #1049599987878723635 yea
prime musk
so im prolly going to put this in tech support but is R2D1 just currently imposs...
on second though this sounds like host is crashing and host migration is failing?
alpine mural
yes
i am the host
and my game would crash
interestingly, rejoining resets the fog
tardy ingot
how long into the run until those issues come up?
alpine mural
but the second instance resulted in a failure of host migration
alpine mural
how long into the run until those issues come up?
about an hour or 2
im running a duo so we cant clear fast
tardy ingot
yeaaa..
so the issue with this level (and a few minor others) is that if you take too long the spitters stark breaking stuff
this can lead to an audio bug which at some point will freeze your game and then crash it
the way to not get that is to play faster, the longer you take the more likely it happens
the other way
tardy ingot
is to get a mod that disables that
there is a mod that does just that (muting spitters and cocoons)
with that mod you should have no more issues
prime musk
isn't this hardware dependend
errant dome
yeaaa..
so the issue with this level (and a few minor others) is that if you tak...
oh i forgot spitters exist in r2d1
prime musk
and does this reset on new elevator drop or game restart
alpine mural
so spitters cause this bug on all levels i assume
prime musk
yeah but the severity is higher on r2d1 because it contains more spitters than anything else in the game by far
alpine mural
yeah but the severity is higher on r2d1 because it contains more spitters than a...
that was my next question
does the quantity of spitters cause this issue
minor fractal
so im prolly going to put this in tech support but is R2D1 just currently imposs...
This is a memory leak related to spitters, has no relation to cell plugs but rather time spent in level.
tardy ingot
ive only rly personally encountered the bug on r2b4 and r8e2 other than r2d1
once for the first and twice for the 2nd
minor fractal
Opening map causes the freeze/crash
errant dome
so spitters cause this bug on all levels i assume
lvls that have them yes, there is also something else that can cause this bug but you wont have to worry about it till r5 assuming your doing lvls in order
tardy ingot
Opening map causes the freeze/crash
it also happens without map opening btw
map opening just makes it happen earlier and at some point everytime
minor fractal
Fresh boot helps, but otherwise you just have to close anything besides GTFO and pray.
Isn't there a mod that helps w/ this, btw?
alpine mural
thank yall tho this helps a lot
minor fractal
Or does it not work for spitters?
tardy ingot
Isn't there a mod that helps w/ this, btw?
yes
ive already said that above
errant dome
Isn't there a mod that helps w/ this, btw?
there is ya
minor fractal
kk
tardy ingot
muting spitter and cocoon audio