Probably not
#gtfo-related-questions
hardy grotto
native sun
<@233838146901508097> would you know anything about this
Sadly not. Best guess is that it is an old texture/shader. Don't know if there'd be any way to recover it.
ocean spindle
i would imagine it was part of the light rather than individual
low radish
It looks more like an object modeled inside of the booster
ocean spindle
It looks more like an object modeled inside of the booster
thats still in the game
u can clearly see it with the thermal
or with a thermal rather
low radish
Yeah you can
wwhich is why i think it's modeled inside the booster
or artifact really
tired nacelle
how do people know how many artifacts, and what types there are in each zone inside each rundown? Is there a list somewhere or a wiki?
urban oriole
thats the neat part, you dont
tired nacelle
huh 
digital mural
how do people know how many artifacts, and what types there are in each zone ins...
the wiki says about 30 can spawn each sector but it depends on level, rundown etc etc
but honestly
people dont even pay attention to that
we just pick whatever we find
digital mural
pretty much yeah
urban oriole
you collect them and thats it
crystal blaze
Nah nah, the GOATed strategy is to say at the beginning of the level you DON’T want any artifacts and the level will spawn in 200 brazillion to spite you
When in actuality, you wanted artifacts the whole time
urban oriole
whuh
crystal blaze
You gotta socially engineer the levels
digital mural
Nah nah, the GOATed strategy is to say at the beginning of the level you DON’T w...
ah yes
reverse psychology
tired nacelle
oh i see, i just get confused because some people just say stuff like "there's 1 more bold artifact and 2 more muted in this zone", and they were right and there were no more artifacts in that area
are they just like guessing?? xD
digital mural
oh i see, i just get confused because some people just say stuff like "there's 1...
HACKS
jk
tired nacelle
LOL
urban oriole
if its not hacks, they just looked
digital mural
guys theres a muted artifact below the Tank :3
urban oriole
also hacking for artifacts is a level of brains i cant reach
tired nacelle
if its not hacks, they just looked
no they say that before we find them, sometimes we spend a really like time looking aswell but usually we always find them
crystal blaze
oh i see, i just get confused because some people just say stuff like "there's 1...
I know that there are “logs”’people use to determine certain RNG elements to a level (like where power cells are, fog turbines, etc.) so maybe artifacts apply to that? No idea
digital mural
why would you even farm for artifacts
crystal blaze
why would you even farm for artifacts
Glowstick power
flat oar
imagine using hack but all what to do is just look for how many artifact left
urban oriole
even so this is such an odd thing to bring up; anything related to findign artifacts
hardy grotto
im pretty sure you can see in logs how many artifacts are in a zone yeah
tired nacelle
why would you even farm for artifacts
cuz some boosters are really nice to have
urban oriole
imagine using hack but all what to do is just look for how many artifact left
pretty much what am saying
hardy grotto
but people probably do learn artifact spawns ngl
digital mural
logs? thats kinda cringe
urban oriole
cuz some boosters are really nice to have
you get crucified for using boosters half of the time here
tired nacelle
but people probably do learn artifact spawns ngl
i was gonna say, because early on it did seem pretty consistant, not where they spawn but the number of the types that do spawn
crystal blaze
only one booster is allowed
GLOWSTICK POWAAAAA
tired nacelle
yeah lets go with that
what about, fart repellent
urban oriole
._.
tired nacelle
crystal blaze
The GTFO fart mod
tired nacelle
The GTFO fart mod
wait no that's actually a mod no?
flat oar
why is it real
tired nacelle
its where the players fart randomly, and wake up sleepers
tired nacelle
teehee ur puns are mine
mortal tide
how do people know how many artifacts, and what types there are in each zone ins...
i saw a spreadsheet sometime ago but I dunno how up to date it is
tired nacelle
... ig ill just start documenting artifact numbers from now on :')
digital mural
arknights player spotted
tired nacelle
i saw a spreadsheet sometime ago but I dunno how up to date it is
may i havent dis spreadsheet? :3
mortal tide
I am trying to find it
flat oar
there's no arknights players here
tired nacelle
lmaooo
tardy ingot
they literally just spawn randomly
Theres a system and you can check this via logs funnily enough
tired nacelle
Theres a system and you can check this via logs funnily enough
spill ur beans
||yea what he said||
mortal tide
trying to find the sheet but it seems like it was made pre-alt rundowns and you'd have to find each one individually
urban oriole
Theres a system and you can check this via logs funnily enough
oh so it is related to logs thingy, ty for confirming eva
hardy grotto
I SAID ITS IN LOGS
urban oriole
i only trust red suits
urban oriole
( i apologize :c )
hardy grotto
i only trust red suits
you would
tired nacelle
i like red suits :(
urban oriole
its not actually a "red suits" thing btw
but i still think i should apologize for my goofyness
tired nacelle
i just like suits and red is a cool colour idk what you're talking about
they be so famcy
crystal blaze
i only trust red suits
Red suits my beloved 
urban oriole
i regret using that phrase
crystal blaze
You were referring to the ambassador role, no?
urban oriole
thats orange lul
crystal blaze
Shit
tired nacelle
You were referring to the ambassador role, no?
no the creator program role i think
crystal blaze
Man, I ain’t saying allat
urban oriole
is oki
crystal blaze
Ambassador but better™️ role
urban oriole
some may mention eva character red suit
tired nacelle
Ambassador but better™️ role
you tellin' me getting ™️ is easier than typing our creator program
crystal blaze
you tellin' me getting ™️ is easier than typing our creator program
It literally is just : tm : but with no spaces
Get with the time ambassador
crystal blaze
Get with the times
crystal blaze
:)
urban oriole
he's part of the elite now
tired nacelle
nah im not that cool
crystal blaze
i bet ur older
According to Discord I’m like 745 years old approximately
tired nacelle
i knew it
crystal blaze
So I guess you win
tired nacelle
im only 744 years old
crystal blaze
Get older
safe cradle
they literally just spawn randomly
For your interest
I remember faintly someone running numbers on OG R5A2 and it was something around always 1 aggressive per zone then 3 bold and 5 muted
But I'm not entirely sure of it, nor if it changed
I'm pretty sure that if a zone CAN spawn artifacts, it's always no more than 1 aggressive per zone.
urban oriole
patterns like that sound plausible
tardy ingot
if i rly cared id check with logs
But god
Artefacts lol
(There was a point in time where we memed about artefact related speedruns)
urban oriole
artihugs
crystal blaze
We should bring back the old R5 artifact audio mixing
I prefer my eardrums bleeding
Makes the experience more authentic
civic rock
Hey how many players max in a lobby
Also I heard that this game is insanely difficult solo? Is that true?
minor fractal
Hey how many players max in a lobby
4 w/out mods, but 8+ player is very buggy/unstable
mortal tide
4 players lobby
And well, depends on what you mean by "solo"
as true solo, without bots, yes, insanely difficult
With bots? More reasonable
civic rock
4 w/out mods, but 8+ player is very buggy/unstable
What about 5
minor fractal
What about 5
You can use a mod, but it's very unstable.
civic rock
I guess solo as in just by yourself
digital mural
Also I heard that this game is insanely difficult solo? Is that true?
Some levels are impossible solo
Without exploit or cheese
civic rock
You can use a mod, but it's very unstable.
So no difference with the mod for 5 or 8?
minor fractal
The fewest players you can have and play relatively normally is 2.
civic rock
The fewest players you can have and play relatively normally is 2.
Bruh
civic rock
I know nothing about the game
digital mural
Or to deal with a lot of enemies
digital mural
I know nothing about the game
You don't want to go solo then
minor fractal
So no difference with the mod for 5 or 8?
The 8-player mod lets you have 5, yes.
digital mural
Solo needs a decent amount of experience
civic rock
You don't want to go solo then
Damn
digital mural
And even then levels take a lot lot longer
civic rock
The 8-player mod lets you have 5, yes.
No no what I'm saying is since you said unstable, would it be more unstable with 8 players then 5? or will it be the same
minor fractal
Bruh
It's just built fundamentally to be a multiplayer game, and 2 players opens up a million teamplay options which you don't get as a solo.
civic wave
3-4 players is solid
digital mural
Thoughts on 3-4 players
Thats the normal way to play the game
minor fractal
No no what I'm saying is since you said unstable, would it be more unstable with...
Same instability so long as you have more than 4, game's not built for it and the mod needs some jank to work.
civic rock
Thats the normal way to play the game
I see
civic rock
Same instability so long as you have more than 4, game's not built for it and th...
Yikes thanks for the heads up
minor fractal
2-4 is the players you want for a normal experience, with 2 being brutally hard and 4 being quite a bit more relaxed (but still very hard if you're not particularly sweaty).
civic rock
Bruh
minor fractal
They are both horde shooters
civic rock
Any examples
digital mural
There really isnt
GTFO is a horde shooter yes but it plays really different from the other ones
civic rock
How come
digital mural
Stealth heavy
Extremely unforgiving
Tanky enemies for an horde shooter
minor fractal
Modded difficulty DRG is probably the closest thing, but it still plays quite differently.
civic rock
Stealth heavy
Extremely unforgiving
Tanky enemies for an horde shooter
There's stealth takedown?
civic wave
uhhh probably everything? the limitations of the game, the setting, the stealth capabilities, the resources, the somewhat set level design?
digital mural
There's stealth takedown?
No
civic rock
Modded difficulty DRG is probably the closest thing, but it still plays quite di...
What's DRG
civic rock
Oh
minor fractal
Deep Rock Galactic
civic rock
Oh
digital mural
You hit big enemies and they die
civic wave
i am starting to get a bit confused here
civic rock
So it's a stealth horde shooter
civic wave
a horde shooter with stealth elements, one might say
civic rock
Okay
minor fractal
There's stealth takedown?
Depends what you mean, a large portion of enemies start in a "sleeping" state, and you can maintain that sleeping state per room as you travel around.
civic rock
How much you guys pay for the game
civic rock
Depends what you mean, a large portion of enemies start in a "sleeping" state, a...
Oh so there are objectives
Is it like extraction?
minor fractal
R6E is a much worse game, tho, lol.
civic rock
You do an objective then extract
Yess okay
minor fractal
Rainbow 6 Extraction
civic rock
I mean extraction games in general
civic wave
i'm beginning to wonder if you've looked at the store page on steam before coming here
civic rock
Rainbow 6 *Extraction*
Haven't played it
minor fractal
Uhhh, I don't have good reference for extraction games
civic rock
Okay
minor fractal
if you mean Tarkov and Hunt: Showdown, it's not really like that.
digital mural
You have a specific map with an specific objective
You do an objective then You leave
civic rock
No I mean more like Helldivers 2
digital mural
No
minor fractal
Level structure is closer to DRG, but levels are not purely generated, they are intentionally constructed (although procedural generation is used) by the developers.
minor fractal
Unironically, yes.
civic rock
Lol
minor fractal
It uses a tiling system.
But it'd be like if a specific moon always had the same layout
Each level is the same
civic rock
How many levels are there
digital mural
84
digital mural
Some rooms are the same
prime musk
there's a lot of stuff being said here but i think them dropping into r1a1 with 3 bots will answer all of them better than this discussion
civic rock
But different objectives
civic rock
there's a lot of stuff being said here but i think them dropping into r1a1 with...
Maybe I should move to chat?
minor fractal
Lots of levels are pretty mid, but plenty of levels are alright and there's standouts in there.
civic rock
Also, I have not got the game yet
minor fractal
I would get it on 20 USD sale if possible
civic rock
How much did you get it for
minor fractal
40
civic rock
Dollars?
minor fractal
yeh
digital mural
I think 30 for me
civic rock
Do you think it was worth it
fathom ice
rip ray wallet
minor fractal
I have 6k hours, so yes.
civic rock
Okay def worth it
fathom ice
oh my god
civic wave
i certainly got my money's worth (i was a broke teenager and bought a steam key don't murder me)
digital mural
The Game takes about 300-500 hours for a newbie to complete on average
minor fractal
But I'm a giga-sweat that's been playing since it came out in EA
civic rock
The Game takes about 300-500 hours for a newbie to complete on average
Damn
Wait what about a pro
digital mural
What about A2
Yesnt
civic wave
whether i spent £15 or £30 i got my money's worth
civic rock
i certainly got my money's worth (i was a broke teenager and bought a steam key ...
That is fine
I am going to do the same
digital mural
I love this game
But it has so many shitty and stupid stuff
civic wave
i have added value to this game by tormenting the community for several years
minor fractal
Wait what about a pro
WR is like 22 hours. If you do all objectives, it's closer to 70 hours.
digital mural
How many hours
About 600 in total
civic rock
WR is like 22 hours. If you do all objectives, it's closer to 70 hours.
World Record?
civic wave
yes
civic rock
About 600 in total
Also def worth for you
prime musk
hey im just over 1000 in and have a solid 35% left not played because of all the extra challenge that isn't just "clear the level"
there is as much content as you are willing to put yourself through tbh
civic rock
hey im just over 1000 in and have a solid 35% left not played because of all the...
So does that mean option objectives make up a fair bit of the gameplay?
digital mural
Also def worth for you
Most of the people here have 500+ hours
prime musk
when i say extra challenge i mean duo/solo
digital mural
Most of the people here have 500+ hours
Since they are the only ones to stick with the game
civic rock
What do you mean?
digital mural
Very rarely people stick with it
minor fractal
Development is over, so people that come and go are only going.
civic rock
Also, another question if you guys don't mind, what is the difference in stealth vs loud?
civic rock
Development is over, so people that come and go are only going.
Oh what
Does this mean no more updates?
urban oriole
I love this game
But it has so many shitty and stupid stuff
more to love about the game
minor fractal
No more updates.
digital mural
Does this mean no more updates?
No more
past mesa
Also, another question if you guys don't mind, what is the difference in stealth...
Weather you shoot your gun
civic rock
How come?
past mesa
Or you aren’t shooting your gun
civic wave
they're working on another game
digital mural
The game already ended
civic rock
Ohhh
past mesa
new game
digital mural
We got an ending
urban oriole
Also, another question if you guys don't mind, what is the difference in stealth...
are you coming from payday?
civic wave
hi jish
digital mural
They moved on
civic rock
are you coming from payday?
No
urban oriole
aight
digital mural
Yup
civic wave
.t dow
uneven gulchBOT
Learn more about Den of Wolves, the next title by 10 Chambers - a techno-thriller heist game.
civic rock
I see
digital mural
DoW is their next game
civic rock
Is there a gameplay trailer?
digital mural
Yes
minor fractal
wym?
minor fractal
Not out yet, no.
civic rock
Yes GTFO not den of wolves
civic rock
Wait, regarding what mountainman said, how come shooting is the only difference
Unless I didn't understand what he fully said
civic rock
No DLC shit
Nice
minor fractal
Depends what you were asking.
civic wave
Unless I didn't understand what he fully said
they*
minor fractal
Gun = loud
civic rock
Yh what's the difference
Wait does this mean you can complete a mission fully in stealth?
digital mural
Wait does this mean you can complete a mission fully in stealth?
Nope
Theres action parts
minor fractal
No, there's forced combat in every mission.
minor fractal
It's still a horde shooter
civic wave
at the top end, you're either mostly running around with melee killing stuff, or using guns to kill stuff with about the same efficiency
civic wave
No, there's forced combat in every mission.
aaaaand now eva comes in with his pacifist runs
minor fractal
Failing stealth is just extra combat, but there are sometimes reasons to get through stealth quickly and so it's better to be shooting, but that costs resources (although this becomes less of a factor the better you are).
past mesa
Failing stealth is just extra combat, but there are sometimes reasons to get thr...
Every level has infinite resources
urban oriole
the game is dyanmic with stealth and loud
civic rock
Hmmm
minor fractal
Every level has infinite resources
Melee is always infinite*
civic rock
Odd question, but you could guys telling me what pros and cons you think the game has
minor fractal
Big cons are long and hard to get into.
It's not accessible
or particularly casual
civic rock
Big cons are long and hard to get into.
What do you mean? are there specific issues?
minor fractal
I mean
digital mural
Odd question, but you could guys telling me what pros and cons you think the gam...
Pros: is "unique"
Cons:
A lot of bugs
Bad weapon balance
Not for casual people
civic rock
It's not accessible
What do you mean
past mesa
What do you mean? are there specific issues?
Games will tend to be about an hour or two
minor fractal
and the game is hard to get into
urban oriole
yeah game is harder than anythong else
civic rock
Pros: is "unique"
Cons:
A lot of bugs
Bad weapon balance
Not for casual people
So people who want a serious game
past mesa
40 mins in
civic wave
Odd question, but you could guys telling me what pros and cons you think the gam...
Big con i feel is that new player perception is very far disconnected from the standard gameplay experience of intermediate+ players so they struggle a bit with that
civic rock
Games will tend to be about an hour or two
How is it that long?
past mesa
How is it that long?
It isn’t
digital mural
How is it that long?
Stealth
civic rock
On the first few levels
Understandable
civic wave
and then also the game does not tell you much with regards to mechanics
past mesa
You are just playing poorly
But learning how to play well without help
Is not accessible
digital mural
People make it long and blame the game
Thats why You see a lot of people saying GTFO is a crouching simulator
civic rock
yeah game is harder than anythong else
Damn, but does that mean there is a high skill required?
digital mural
They dont know how to play
digital mural
Damn, but does that mean there is a high skill required?
In later levels yes
minor fractal
How is it that long?
The worse you are, the more players tend to take their time with things, and things can drag on. Saving time requires some amount of know-how to not run out of ammo, understand how to stealth quickly, etc.
digital mural
You need to be good or You won't make it
past mesa
Damn, but does that mean there is a high skill required?
Na if you are gold in valorant it isn’t harder than that shooting probs even sliver
urban oriole
if youre figuring out stuff or taking ur time, it really takes a long while
but if you know what youre doing; most long levels take 30 mins usually, while typicslly they're 15-20 mins i think
civic rock
Big con i feel is that new player perception is very far disconnected from the s...
So hard in standard terms will be medium here?
urban oriole
Damn, but does that mean there is a high skill required?
patience and knowledge are enough for most levels
civic wave
Damn, but does that mean there is a high skill required?
depends on how good you want to be at the game
civic rock
Is not accessible
I see
civic rock
and then also the game does not tell you much with regards to mechanics
So learn on the go?
civic rock
In later levels yes
Okay
past mesa
So learn on the go?
Yeah
urban oriole
but you gotts still have competencr snd play a pve first person shooter well
civic rock
The worse you are, the more players tend to take their time with things, and thi...
So in game knowledge
past mesa
So learn on the go?
And try not to learn the wrong lessons
civic rock
Na if you are gold in valorant it isn’t harder than that shooting probs even sli...
Oh okay so not a big difference
past mesa
Like many players start to do
minor fractal
Yes, GTFO is extremely knowledge-heavy.
urban oriole
dont use spear moment
past mesa
dont use spear moment
You can use spear
civic rock
patience and knowledge are enough for most levels
Alright I'll keep that in mind
past mesa
You can shouldn’t do some things
civic rock
And try not to learn the wrong lessons
Lol
civic rock
Yes, GTFO is extremely knowledge-heavy.
Hm okay
past mesa
Lol
This is the big issue tbh
People will make the wrong connections
Then get doomed
minor fractal
There is a lot of play in early levels that seems "bad," because it makes the mission a bit harder/there's more risk involved
But you need to learn to play that way
because it becomes rewarded or necessary in harder content
urban oriole
having someone to help you is def a good thing
thats why people here are always open to help at least questions wise
minor fractal
And then you have stuff like weapon feedback, where a lot of bad guns can "feel good" when they're dead weight.
digital mural
Bullpup
civic rock
Then get doomed
Connections as in lessons learned?
minor fractal
That clip went so hard
civic rock
because it becomes rewarded or necessary in harder content
I see
civic wave
poor tomato
urban oriole
the game doesnt really tell you things that you should know to improve
civic rock
Kinda ruins the point of the game
Helping you in what way, knowledge or like carrying you through the game
digital mural
Carrying sucks
civic rock
the game doesnt really tell you things that you should know to improve
Yeah that makes sense
digital mural
You won't learn anything
past mesa
Helping you in what way, knowledge or like carrying you through the game
Once you have knowledge
civic rock
You won't learn anything
True
past mesa
Carrying is not to hard
civic rock
Okay
Alright
Thanks for your help guys @past mesa @digital mural @urban oriole @civic wave @minor fractal
Hopefully I can convey this to my friends and see if they are down to get the game
urban oriole
np bud
past mesa
1/4 retention rate
urban oriole
gl getting others down ti hrll with you
past mesa
Which one do we get to keep
uneven gulchBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
civic rock
gl getting others down ti hrll with you
Lol
urban oriole
if you dont get anyone else, be me and play alone
civic rock
1/4 retention rate
Probably my collector friend
minor fractal
@past mesa Sometimes you learn the right lessons by being isolated, tho
urban oriole
and die bc i can barely do some levels solo with 150 hours
minor fractal
Like that impromptu R1C1 duo.
past mesa
<@325636095067029507> Sometimes you learn the right lessons by being isolated, t...
Sometimes
100%
civic rock
If You are interested but your Friends arent You can get into LFG
Alright
fathom ice
if you dont get anyone else, be me and play alone
ngl ur opinion is rejected here
urban oriole
you shouldnt bc its a niche within this niche and harsh game
urban oriole
ngl ur opinion is rejected here
i am not being serious
past mesa
But when I first played the game I thought ||scouts|| couldn’t be killed because my friend told me they shot it in the head
native sun
We thought you couldn't melee them and that only Sniper could kill them
fathom ice
so true!!
past mesa
We thought you couldn't melee them and that only Sniper could kill them
It happens
urban oriole
game is much better that way
past mesa
but you gotta afterwards seek proper info
Cube
This server
Is just a pit of miss info
That sounds correct
urban oriole
i didnt say where to get the info from
digital mural
Prisioners have a bomb collar
urban oriole
well i am speaking in general
i was gonna mention how i dont spoil anything for myself bc of that
like if i were a newcomer to anything and heard something i would never be able to change my thought about that thing
past mesa
Yup
native sun
And then feeds you miss info
Luckily I was the Sniper player 😎
tardy ingot
~~aaaaand now eva comes in with his pacifist runs~~
bruh
(also its still combat, you just dont fight back)
urban oriole
But when I first played the game I thought ||scouts|| couldn’t be killed becaus...
i could get stuck here forever cuz i wouldnt try options afterr being told that i cant murder
past mesa
i could get stuck here forever cuz i wouldnt try options afterr being told that ...
Sniper is the gun that tried
urban oriole
its a valid first option
fathom ice
i mean
fathom ice
besides scatter it is
soft crater
fathom ice
but it's silly ye
tardy ingot
People will make the wrong connections
use shotgun sentry
see it shot a lot
assume it means it killed a lot
assume its good due to that
use shotgun sentry most of the time
run out of tool (because you also dont shoot too much and dont loot that well)
die
repeat from step 5
tardy ingot
That clip went so hard
omg the bullpup clip, where is that again?
past mesa
use shotgun sentry
see it shot a lot
assume it means it killed a lot
assume its ...
It is like almost logically sound tho
it is so close
tardy ingot
yea
its why people fall for it
same with hel auto sentry
nobody does the shit some weird people go through
aka dropping into a level, aggroing a zone and dropping a sentry
urban oriole
use shotgun sentry
see it shot a lot
assume it means it killed a lot
assume its ...
ngl i am not stupid enough to realize that there is lots of enemies coming to me and the shotgun sentry is empty
tardy ingot
cough cough (i did that in r4a1 back in the day as a newbie)
soft crater
same with hel auto sentry
Me when the other day. Guy mysteriously couldn't find tool for their hel auto.
me and other guy with 100% sniper and burst sentries
urban oriole
i still havent used shotgun sentry actually, so i dont have any actual thoughts about it
past mesa
ngl i am not stupid enough to realize that there is lots of enemies coming to me...
But the sentry is empty
urban oriole
nor do i have a reason to usw it
past mesa
surely that means it did things
Why would a tool in the game
Exist
To do nothing but waste sentry ammo
urban oriole
surely that means it did things
run out of ammo while i run out of ammo
past mesa
Burst is good so therefore shotgun must be great
urban oriole
also, on the video eva shared on poopy shotgun sentry
tardy ingot
i still havent used shotgun sentry actually, so i dont have any actual thoughts ...
check the recent media clip
fathom ice
:3
tardy ingot
youll have a good time
prime musk
it should be mentioned that the shotgun weapons are actually good
so thinking shotgun sentry is that but it aims for you isn't unreasonable
urban oriole
also, on the video eva shared on poopy shotgun sentry
eas about to get into that lmai
tardy ingot
it should be mentioned that the shotgun weapons are actually good
so thinking sh...
well
most beginners assume shotguns arent good
urban oriole
it looks like it really needs a proper position to work
tardy ingot
cuz of
"low range"
"low ammo"
"dont kill well"
tardy ingot
it looks like it really needs a proper position to work
the only thing tru couldve rly dont better is place it in a super tight choke
urban oriole
i wouldnt believe thst the latter is an actual thing a newbie would say
prime musk
honestly the biggest issue with long range weapons i have come across is that the visibility just sucks too much to utilise it for most of the game
tardy ingot
so enemies dont move to side and it misses only 70% instead of 90%
tardy ingot
Low ammo is such a crazy tag
nah beginners focus on it so much
shotgun/high cal etc ONLY HAVE 27 rounds left!!
i need to shot my 100 bullet smg (dont worry that the % are like 15/90)
prime musk
i think this is a general intelligence issue
past mesa
gun shoot longer thus ammo last longer
prime musk
rather than a game understanding issue
past mesa
i think this is a general intelligence issue
You might
Be right
Based on my marvel rival teams
tardy ingot
i think this is a general intelligence issue
yes
thats the issue
people dont think
or rather
they assume things
with barely any thought
urban oriole
i think this is a general intelligence issue
i wanna say, i cant take someone's word as legit or worth mentioning when thats the case
tardy ingot
this isnt just a game issue (with games handholding a ton)
but a general people issue
tardy ingot
i wanna say, i cant take someone's word as legit or worth mentioning when thats ...
hm?
past mesa
this isnt just a game issue (with games handholding a ton)
It is a schooling issue
urban oriole
like no way most people act like this
past mesa
some of these people need
past mesa
To be in primary education still
urban oriole
at least ones that genuinely want to get into the game
civic wave
with barely any thought
this is simply the world we live in nowadays
civic wave
oh thank god i'm not the only one slandering
past mesa
Me
tardy ingot
- random nobodies who dont even know who to spell it
tardy ingot
you dont mean that
civic wave
yeah these people need to develop their brains instead of getting garbage wired straight into their brains with no effort
tardy ingot
cuz its based af
past mesa
it is like cemist
tardy ingot
no
past mesa
And that is lame
tardy ingot
fuck chemistry
civic wave
stupid geology
past mesa
I spelt it correct
tardy ingot
i work with fossils
civic wave
geology is just chemistry with rocks
tardy ingot
geology is just chemistry with rocks
my subsection doesnt rly use chemisty
tho its a common thing yes
imagine hating on dinosaurs
cringe
🚪 👈
past mesa
Dinosaurs couldn’t even build a missile defence system
urban oriole
i like my ocean creatures fossils
past mesa
kinda weak
civic wave
i get to have uhhh like anatomy/physiology with chemistry/biology, pharmacology, and communication
urban oriole
Dinosaurs couldn’t even build a missile defence system
animals build some other fascinating things, ngl
sometimes can do things we cant do
tardy ingot
Dinosaurs couldn’t even build a missile defence system
thats what you think
shame, uneducated stranger
past mesa
thats what you think
shame, uneducated stranger
Yup 100%
civic wave
cringe
dinosaurs themselves are cool, but common hobby/hyperfixation, would be a treat to hear people find something more novel
civic wave
that being said i have also enjoyed watching videos of an old canadian guy poking down rocks/fossils from cliff faces to see if he can find anything good so...
tardy ingot
dinosaurs themselves are cool, but common hobby/hyperfixation, would be a treat ...
tbf i prefer some other things
but i dont expect many people here to know (or enjoy) that part
tardy ingot
If you can find an old dinosaurs version of gtfo
ark but gtfo?
past mesa
No it has to be made by dinosaurs
tardy ingot
tardy ingot
that being said i have also enjoyed watching videos of an old canadian guy pokin...
finding goated fossils is a lot of fun ngl
ive found some nice stuff
digital mural
Do You taste the fossils tho?
tardy ingot
no
digital mural
Lame
digital mural
Wheres the fun in that
past mesa
<:musicmommyLickL:1020778301251395614>
This emot
digital mural
You are supposed to taste everything for the ultimate taste tier list
tardy ingot
digital mural
<:musicmommyLickL:1020778301251395614>
"mommylick"
Sus emote
I didnt know You were into that
But eh
Who i am to judge
past mesa
Idc about some music mommy
digital mural
Eva is into some really weird stuff
past mesa
Eva is into some really weird stuff
Did you hear his striker scream only a certified freak could make that noise
past mesa
LOL
digital mural
It has been to long
Dont worry
Im going to launch a depth investigation of Eva
sturdy glen
you guys should hyperfixate on project moon content instead
past mesa
you guys should hyperfixate on project moon content instead
Gonna hyper fixate
On your moms nuts
Excuse me
lament tapir
Why are normal melee sleepers showing up as tiny tiny red dots on my radar?
digital mural
Why are normal melee sleepers showing up as tiny tiny red dots on my radar?
Thats a bug
lament tapir
Thats a bug
Lmao I will just pretend the sensor is going bad or somethin
ocean spindle
Lmao I will just pretend the sensor is going bad or somethin
pretend they are camouflage sleepers :D
past mesa
Why are normal melee sleepers showing up as tiny tiny red dots on my radar?
You open the bio and it has seen enemies 3 rooms away
These enemies have an issue with them
Then they will become tiny red dots
native sun
how do I officially get in contact with one?
DM the @uneven gulch bot
cyan stag
Thank you!
chrome topaz
is there a way to lower the fog in R3A2? i hoped putting in the cells in the gen cluster would lower it a bit but i got all the cells before heading down to the blood door at the ladder but its just impossible to see anything, the infection is tolerable but i the vision is awfull
tiny wyvern
[[Alt://R3A2]]
gray rapidsBOT
tiny wyvern
nope that doesn't work huh
@chrome topaz
So if the wiki is to be believed, once the cells are all in the fog rises back up to the original level and you have to run back to extract
After the scan
No way of lowering it, as with most missions
minor fractal
is there a way to lower the fog in R3A2? i hoped putting in the cells in the gen...
Most likely desync or an issue related to plugging cells too quickly.
You are 3/4, correct?
The fog will also still cover your feet at 3/4 in the low elevation zone.
chrome topaz
i had 3 cells in there, but when i was down the ladder to zone 125 even when jumping i wasnt above the fog
minor fractal
Are you host/solo?
chrome topaz
yeah solo
minor fractal
Sounds like it bugged.
or it is an issue of plugging too fast
Did you wait to plug them all?
Or plug them as you got them?
chrome topaz
i plugged them in as i got them
only thing that might count as unusual order is that i did both blood doors before getting cell 2 and 3
minor fractal
Shouldn't affect it.
chrome topaz
welp i guess it was just bugged, just put in the 3rd on my retry and now i can see the floor at the bottom of the ladder
minor fractal
No idea why that'd happen in solo tbh
tiny wyvern
No idea why that'd happen in solo tbh
Could be multiple resets or smth bugging the game
ocean spindle
if its memory leak thats the weirdest memory leak
urban olive
Hey guys, anyone know if they're planning on restocking their clothing from the merchandising store?
hasty crane
Question
My group just completed r6d1, but we did not receive the color pallet you get for completing all priority expeditions
what should we do?
tiny wyvern
Question
My group just completed r6d1, but we did not receive the color pallet y...
What color pallet?
hasty crane
What color pallet?
destination
i would post a screenshot from the wiki but I cant in here
it says "Obtained by completing
ALL Rundown 6.0
"Priority Expeditions"
(R6A1, R6B1, R6C1 and R6D1)."
tiny wyvern
That sounds like it's directed at og r6
that or it's really outdated
since it's before r8 realease
Also, isn't main reward a helmet
according to the wiki
And not a color pallet
hasty crane
yeah but that was all main sectors
which we have not beaten the other d missions
I see the difference cause the color does not say alt rundown 6
thanks for the clarification
native sun
What's one level for each environment
Storage/Refinery/Digsite Lab/Datacenter Floodways/Gardens
prime musk
Do i know all of the environments
R1B1/R1C1/R3B1 R3A1/R4A1 R5A1/R7B1
safe cradle
I think tru wants it to have all of those divided in the three groups
As in, a level that has storage, refinery and digsite
And a level that has lab, datacenter
And a level that has floodways and gardens
floodways gardens I think is R8A1, right?
End of Main is gardens IIRC
lab, datacenter R5B2
storage, refinery and digsite is R6D2 - CORRECTION: R6D3 (main is storage, overload is refinery, extreme is digsite).
@native sun those correct?
And let me know if my interpretation of your question is correct too, thanks.
native sun
I just wanted to be able to drop in to each environment
Nothing that specific
Though fun interpretation
sturdy glen
yup
prime musk
I just wanted to be able to drop in to each environment
destination has doors too, only reachable ones im aware of are in r6cx though
ocean spindle
theres some in r8b2/r6ax
hardy grotto
It’s the secret r6d2 digsite tile
safe cradle
I swear I need to triple check those damn fucking D tier R6
hardy grotto
You’d know if you knew the code for the secret term
safe cradle
They blend together name-wise
hardy grotto
I remember them p well but I’ve played a lot of r6 generally
safe cradle
I remember them well but I always need to remember which is d2 and which is d3 and which is d4
tardy ingot
They blend together name-wise
what 
safe cradle
I remember them individually but always get the names blended around
safe cradle
what <:d4rkevThink:1258912823954640966>
well let's say number wise
d2's crossways or whatever d3 is power hungry and d4 is cryptomnesia
tardy ingot
ya
safe cradle
but I sometimes end up saying r6d4 and thinking actually of crossways
tardy ingot
and remembering which level is which isnt too hard there
They are rly distinct
safe cradle
and remembering which level is which isnt too hard there
They are rly distinct
You're misunderstanding me
Lets put it this way
I say "Lamborghini Murcielago", you think about the Veneno, they're both completely different and your mental image is correct, it's just the label on the two that gets swapped
chrome topaz
any reccomendations for where to hold the reactor on R2D2 in the later rounds when enemies can come from more than the entrance bridge?
wild flare
Bridge is still fine
1 guy defend closer to beginning of lvl, 2 guys close to reactor room, 1 guy rotates between both sides and help
chrome topaz
im solo with bots.. currently put down a sniper sentry at the opposite end facing reactor, a burst aiming towards the spawns where i hold, and a sniper facing behind us in later waves
wild flare
Bruh, do it with real people
Trust me as a player, who cleared almost all 7 rundowns with bots
chrome topaz
i would, if i had a group
fathom ice
i would, if i had a group
.t lfg
uneven gulchBOT
i would, if i had a group
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
wild flare
I have all rights to say this, cause this lvl is torture with bots and i gave up on that
chrome topaz
yeah ik, ive played with ppl in there, but its hard to find a group to play more than 1 round with
past mesa
We’re bots all along
past mesa
yeah ik, ive played with ppl in there, but its hard to find a group to play more...
Find one person
to play more games with
wild flare
Even with 1m player it will be so much easier
past mesa
Follow them respectfully and don’t be werid
chrome topaz
i know, i ve been trying to find ppl who want to form a lasting group
wild flare
98% lvls are doable with vanilla bots, so if you stuck, you can look for party in lfg channel for this particular lvl
tiny wyvern
I have all rights to say this, cause this lvl is torture with bots and i gave up...
Is it the holdouts or the code find portion
wild flare
Holdout is fine, but code hunting is awful, cause resources ending quickly and you have little time to search for those while code hunting, esp obe of the first codes hunting sections, while you have to find keycard, then do lvl 4 alarm, THEN look for code in big ass zone
Timer is rly tight
sturdy glen
it is not that bad
it is hard for new players but its hard for them with 4 real people
wild flare
Yeah, now with more experience i feel it will be easier, but at that time i just gave up
My pb was 6(?) Code hunting, when you have to do lvl 4 or 5 alarm
I just had almost no resources at that moment and died
But as newer player do this lvl with bots is highly not-recommended
flat oar
i once complete r2d2 with betterbot but guess it doesnt count
wild flare
Betterbots is really BETTER
flat oar
ngl it the only round that i have space to use sniper before any striker leak to lick me
wild flare
Better bots is huge improvement, if only we had some of the mod features in vanilla
Like carrying items on alarm, not trying to revive you mid-fight, not trying to melee enemies, if they are in close range
wild flare
If it is without aimbot it is not
neon gust
this is so sad
wild flare
It is close
neon gust
can we please add trus rebalance to the game
wild flare
I think the only weakness bots have with this mod is multitasking, no spreading and still suck vs tank
wild flare
flat oar
at least better c-foaming door
urban oriole
i honestly wouldnt mind having to do dual uplinks myself if they make it feasible solo, but i'd still want to position them better so i can safely do so called uplinks
wild flare
Yeah, dual uplinks are rough in solo
wild flare
🤢
tiny wyvern
Yeah, dual uplinks are rough in solo
Can you even make it back in time for duals
The confirm has so little time tied to it
wild flare
Yeah, i did r7d1 first try
No checkpoints
I failed wave with snatchers 2 times, but other waves got great rng
Basically you have 5 terminals, which you can reliably do in solo - 4 in main room and one in east or west zone (on same height as main room)
Other one in West or east zone, which is on high ground was too tight in time, i was short of 1-2 seconds
It is possible, but very very tight
(Actually i also failed second wave 2 times too, but you have enough resources to recover from this)
tiny wyvern
Sometimes I forget you guys are insane at this game
modest monolith
sometimes i forget rule 7 exists and therefore, restore faith in humanity
tardy ingot
The confirm has so little time tied to it
You are thinking of initiate sequence, not double uplink
tiny wyvern
You are thinking of initiate sequence, not double uplink
are they different?
I always confuse them
Isn't the one in R8C1 ov called that?
tardy ingot
..
double uplink
= 2 people uplink
initiate sequence is whats in r8c1ovl and r7d1
double uplink is in r8c1main, r5c3, r6d2sec, r7c3ovl
tiny wyvern
ok thx
wild flare
Double uplink AND timed sequence in r8c1? Shit 
tiny wyvern
Double uplink AND timed sequence in r8c1? Shit <:BabyShooter:693532344866308116>
You do either main or secondary, so not all in one go
tardy ingot
You do either main or secondary, so not all in one go
… not quite right
tardy ingot
Double uplink AND timed sequence in r8c1? Shit <:BabyShooter:693532344866308116>
It works a bit differently dw
finite oracle
is r8c1 the only level that has a full team extraction scan
tiny wyvern
is r8c1 the only level that has a full team extraction scan
There's R8A2 sec scan
That's full team
finite oracle
ok
errant dome
r8c2 technically as well
flat oar
r8e2
tiny wyvern
The last three scans ye
...Damn I didn't really want to remember that levle
(R8E2 beginner runs 🙂 )
ocean spindle
speedrun it :3
tiny wyvern
speedrun it :3
Can you even solo speedrun on R8E2
tardy ingot
is r8c1 the only level that has a full team extraction scan
R8C2 technically as the only other one
R8E1, A2sec and E2 all have unique settings and arent actually extracts in that regard
tardy ingot
Can you even solo speedrun on R8E2
You cant rly solo it lol
its only been done with glitches (as seen by ray, void and me)
errant dome
the class 6 alarms be 2 hard
lone mortar
You cant rly solo it lol
its only been done with glitches (as seen by ray, void ...
Stream when?
grizzled sandal
is r8c1 the only level that has a full team extraction scan
r5e1 as well
tardy ingot
r5e1 as well
??
soft crater
civic wave
so wrong, but technically not too far off
R8A2 sec has full team extract
r8e2s final scans are team but technically not extract scans
soft crater
Man I've been doing much modded which typically has team extracts.
Some vanilla levels would be different if they were team extracts
grizzled sandal
sorry, got them mixed
just remembered that there is a full team at the end
little pilot
R8A2 sec has full team extract
technically r8a2 is not full team extract either as it doesn't complete level upon finishing scan but merely triggers a condition which says u win once u die, same as r8e1, however r8e1 also has a timer
tardy ingot
R8A2 sec has full team extract
This is arguable in a way since the actual scan doesnt extract you, but is a trigger to allow you to
tiny wyvern
Nevermind I don't think it was
grizzled patrol
If you down your entire Team, technically it is a full Team extraction 
prime musk
@native sun why is it that the scout waves in r6d2 never spawn in?
long kiting and waking up the 6 cscout room, the scout waves should be queued. but when i kill off the giants one by one, the scout waves never show up and combat music ends when final giant is killed
past mesa
<@233838146901508097> why is it that the scout waves in r6d2 never spawn in?
lon...
Do
You do the uplink
or the error alarm section
prime musk
wdym i do everything at the same time
past mesa
Deactive alarms
prime musk
error section, 6 cscout and secondary
civic wave
uplink alarm cancel woah
past mesa
uplink alarm cancel woah
Uplink scout wave cancel
Based
we use it in the r2c1 speedrun
civic wave
ya
prime musk
i though it cancelled alarms not alarms and enemy queue
civic wave
i remember trying to do the same when running r2% with eva and hani
prime musk
this game is so broken
past mesa
*the what*
I think the only thing that sometimes breaks
Is reactor waves
Because they sometimes
Have built in delay
prime musk
are there even levels with both uplink/deactivatable error and reactor that are accessible at the same time
past mesa
I don’t know how delay interacts with wave cancels
past mesa
are there even levels with both uplink/deactivatable error *and* reactor that ar...
Modded levels
prime musk
if you do main to reactor with it going
past mesa
if you do main to reactor with it going
You can also have r5c2 overload
Plus reactor going on
It has a deative alarm events on overload completion
civic wave
lf r5c2 duo partner you host lobby i take scatter for ovl
past mesa
As well
prime musk
any level with uplinks has funny alarm skips
frail heart
i remember trying to do the same when running r2% with eva and hani
im just not important 😔
civic wave
tbh i couldn't remember if it was you in those runs or not
past mesa
Side character
civic wave
baby speedrunner
past mesa
lil bro
frail heart
i got very mad in that session
past mesa
It is fair to get mad
sturdy glen
you guys mustve had a mindset issue ngl
civic wave
i don't think i was too happy about the runs either
frail heart
it wasnt at the game 
past mesa
you guys mustve had a mindset issue ngl
^^
civic wave
we were majorly trolling chill
past mesa
Time lost on a tiers almost doesn’t matter
civic wave
couldn't get anything right
sturdy glen
wait they did???
frail heart
we did not?
civic wave
we were running everything in order
past mesa
Then why didn’t you complete
past mesa
If your on good pace into r2d1
civic wave
and then idk at some point we just stopped playing
sturdy glen
did you guys ever even practice r2d2 or r2e1
civic wave
nope!
sturdy glen
yeah that was just doomed then
past mesa
LOL!
civic wave
mhm
past mesa
I think there was a good chance
civic wave
r3% (ray hani eva goat) we started with r3c1 and then went in order i think
past mesa
Of getting like a 35 without practicing r2e1
past mesa
r3% (ray hani eva goat) we started with r3c1 and then went in order i think
This is what I am remembering
My bad
and in r1% right?
civic wave
r1% was in order
past mesa
so much more based
“Jish will remember this”
But like
Even if you get all insane times on a b and c tier
And you lose 10 mins
On e tier
What is the point
frail heart
you get all the ladies
tardy ingot
r3% (ray hani eva goat) we started with r3c1 and then went in order i think
tbf
R3C1 sucks
plucky nacelle
does it suck for a particular speed run reason
civic wave
heavy rng variance, one hsu zone is significantly slower
tardy ingot
awful rng
and if you get bad rng you cant full send without res (even on good rng you need res)
tardy ingot
heavy rng variance, one hsu zone is significantly slower
Same for keys
both also mean fighting more shit
civic wave
coloured key as well, and then it's a rough mission
tardy ingot
Potentially its a sub 7 mission
realistically a 10 min is great for rundown%
civic wave
on the topic of speedrunning, notepad++ keeps using the old account name on my PC which is funny, and wardenmapper isn't working since I changed the account name lol
slightly funny
prime musk
will scouts that respawn respawn if either A) enemies from their wave are alive or B) enemis from their wave are still queued
or does it just respawn if it's dead and you get far enough away (and out of the zone)
civic wave
my intuition is that there'd be no special condition and they'd simply respawn once you get far enough away (and have killed them, same as any other enemy, won't respawn into the room unless it's dead)
i can test it i guess in r5d1 with cconsole
minor fractal
will scouts that respawn respawn if either A) enemies from their wave are alive ...
There's nothing that tracks this, if the scout dies it can respawn.
(assuming it's not blacklisted)
prime musk
mm
im weighing my options for boosterless r5d2 solo
kiting respawn zone feels like a requirement (code 3) so that kinda sucks
but ig ill never kill off so it doesn't matter for that
but i was hoping i could kite respawn zone for class 10 but that is very dead if scouts will continually respawn
civic wave
ya
prime musk
yeah but feels unstable with horde of giants behind