gtfo-related-questions

[urban oriole]

its pretty close on bodyshot, so headshot should be easy

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah, range is about as far as you can comfortably aim with the pistol

[urban oriole]

thankfully

unlike chargers -. _-.

[prime musk]

if closer than like ~29m
(for reference it kill strikers with bodyshot from ~27m)

[fathom ice]

it doesn't kill body or I'm misunderstanding

[urban oriole]

you are misunderstanding

am saying based on the logic that high cal is close to killing on bodyshot, killing on crit is easy

[fathom ice]

it's not really close but fine

[urban oriole]

isnt it 30 damage out of 37?

[fathom ice]

back and head work ye

[fathom ice]

42*

[urban oriole]

ohhh

well 1.5 shots you could say

a crit or a back shot does push it over

[hardy grotto]

37 hp

for nightmare strikers

[fathom ice]

yes

[hardy grotto]

where's the 42 coming from

[fathom ice]

scout hp

[hardy grotto]

oh theyre on abt scouts not nightmare strikers

[fathom ice]

yeee

[hardy grotto]

been a long time since ive seen anyone not just call them scouts

[fathom ice]

everyone talks about their tentacles smh

[hardy grotto]

yea but scouts r old news

the new tentacle ppl are nightmares

[fathom ice]

ye fair

[errant dome]

Ofc they do what else do u expect

[soft crater]

Imean. I figured it would be scouts given nightmares basically don't have a head. (Technically they do but meh. Funny shrunken headass)

[plucky nacelle]

does that mini head have a multiplier

[topaz anvil]

Probably not and even if it did you ain't hitting it

[soft crater]

Even then. It's probably counted as body dmg like chargers

[hardy grotto]

someone has to grind for the nightmare striker headshot

It’s gotta exist

[soft crater]

Iirc

Nightmare Giant has a small one on top
.

At least from what can be seen with the hitbox models mod

[frail heart]

nightmare scout does as well

[soft crater]

While funny. I didn't manage to hit the N.Giant head :P

Well at least they aren't cursed looking like flyer hitboxes

[minor fractal]

30 out of 37 isn't close, and scouts have 42 HP.

If it were close, you'd expect one-shot on slight back damage, which HCP doesn't have

Sniper is actually close, and should one-shot from basically the side (1.05x multi).

[urban oriole]

with crits it is

[minor fractal]

It's not close on bodyshot, which is what you said.

[urban oriole]

i think you missed my point

i said that as in you can easily get the kill if you get crit

cuz more than enough damage

[minor fractal]

Your justification for your "point," that HCP overkills on HS, isn't very good justification of that fact

since HCP isn't very close to killing on body

[urban oriole]

what is close then?

[minor fractal]

Sniper, at 40 damage

HCP is more like slug shotgun than Sniper relative to scouts

[civic wave]

30/37 is 81% of the way there, so really you'd need a ~25% increase (specifically 23.3(recurring) %) damage increase for the kill

[prime musk]

can you sniper bodyshot and quickdraw knife to kill a scout

[civic wave]

maybe if you roll 0.5? no idea

[urban oriole]

if we'd tlak about boosters yes that is al ot

[civic wave]

couldn't do it must've been a bad roll

[minor fractal]

To be clear, you need a 1.4x multi to one-tap scout w/ HCP.

[civic wave]

Ah right yea for scout

[minor fractal]

which isn't too hard to get, but it's a lot tighter than 1.05x, and it certainly requires some effort to obtain.

[civic wave]

whoops, i am not a smart lady

+7 damage is just short of a DMR shot, +12 is just short of a precision rifle shot, if that reference is any helpful, so the base damage increase you'd need disregarding any multipliers would be akin to you firing from a 2nd gun

[prime musk]

so true
whatever it's a stupid question to begin with

[quiet kettle]

will i have any issues with not unlocking achievements/cosmetics if i install QoL/bugfix mods?

[livid stone]

no

[digital mural]

no

[mental bay]

Is there any weapon that I shouldn’t use? Or are they all pretty balanced compared to each other?

[digital mural]

Assault rifle, bullpup, burst rifle, short rifle and slug shotgun are the only ones i don't recommend

They are just

Straight up bad

[mental bay]

Any secondary weapons I shouldn’t use?

I recall the sniper being pretty bad?

[digital mural]

Short rifle

[digital mural]

Sniper is fine against big guys

BUT

It got nerfed hard

It still is fine but theres better options

[digital mural]

This gun is so bad

Low damage and really low stagger

No reason to bring it when everything else is better

(especially since its the special slot)

[mental bay]

Alright

I usually bring the shotgun or revolver for my secondary

[digital mural]

Those are really decent picks

[mental bay]

just wanted to make sure I wasn’t throwing lmao

[digital mural]

You can make the bad weapon works

[flat oar]

if a team still struggling killing wave sniper is bad.but if a team good at killing wave and make playspace sniper gonna make the game easier

[digital mural]

People cleared the hardest level with worst guns in the game

And honestly
Run whatever works with you

[mental bay]

True true

[crystal blaze]

No more Pablo pfp?

Sadge :(

[digital mural]

We got a divorce

[crystal blaze]

WHAT

Now I have to find someone else to babysit him now

Fuck

[minor fractal]

Burst Rifle is better than literally any auto

[digital mural]

Than doesnt really mean much anyways

Everything is better than Autos

And i didnt mentioned Autos specifically :b

[sturdy glen]

but you did mention burst rifle specifically

[digital mural]

Yes Chill dude

You have really good eyes

[sturdy glen]

damn did not realize you were a baiter, mb

[tardy ingot]

Burst rifle???

[digital mural]

Yeah
The one that goes brrrbrrrbrr and not brrrrrrrrrrr

[frail heart]

burst rifle is decent

[digital mural]

I have no one
Even new people
Use that gun

Absolute no one goes and says
"Oh yeah burst rifle time"

[urban oriole]

i use it :c

albeit am bad at it

[tiny wyvern]

I use it to punch things that are too far away for me to use melee

It's pretty good at doing that

[digital mural]

Punch?

[tiny wyvern]

Ye

[livid stone]

id rather use burst pistol

[tiny wyvern]

doesn't burst pis have less ammo

[jolly gazelle]

Hey, is gtfo peer to peer?

[tiny wyvern]

Yes

[digital mural]

It shoots faster so its easier to spam

[digital mural]

Yes again

[jolly gazelle]

Oh does it use steam routing?

[tardy ingot]

@digital mural burst rifle is unironically good

Not the good of „broken“ or good of carbine/dmr etc

But its very much a good main

[digital mural]

No

[digital mural]

Yeah

Steam to connect to other people
Playfab to save progress

[digital mural]

If it's good
Then why i don't see people using it

[frail heart]

this is why ur bad

because bullpup exists

[digital mural]

I was about to say not even newbies touch that weapon (they prefer bullpup)

[tardy ingot]

pickrate is a shit metric

Vets rarely use burst rifle cuz they pick the actual strong stuff

Beginners/meh take the shit high pickrate stuff

[digital mural]

Burst rifle feels awful to shoot and the damage is mid and it's only decent against smalls

At least it has range

But thats about it

[jolly gazelle]

so it also uses steam feature to route my data to hide my ip?

[digital mural]

Yup

Even with your IP people can't do anything at all

[jolly gazelle]

I am asking because usually when I open the overlay it says that it is routing. (in other p2p games like drg) but not this game.

[jolly gazelle]

Yeah just as a precaution tho

[digital mural]

Dw

[digital mural]

Oh yeah i see this often in some games

But i don't think it's something to worry about too much

[tardy ingot]

Just no

Its a slightly worse carbine with more range

And carbine isnt rly known for being bad lol

[digital mural]

I definitely suck with burst rifle if its almost the same as carbine

I think its time to become a burst rifle main

[urban oriole]

you better do

do all burst weapons loadout

[digital mural]

BC is going to carry me

[urban oriole]

mhm

[jolly gazelle]

yeah but not on gtfo lol

[ocean spindle]

im sorry but burst rifle its literally carbine but u can oneshot a striker as client

so idk what ur going on about lmao

[civic wave]

it's a fine gun, but feels a tad sluggish with the reload

good range, good damage, good sight, good gun

mostly a problem of unfamiliarity probably

[ocean spindle]

gun has a big body it is automatically amazing omg

i was the only burst rifle player in any of my runs

sad

[tiny wyvern]

Better than being the guy with a machine pistol and burst cannon

[ocean spindle]

that would also be me

[young trench]

whats the best gun to use in a run

just a normal run of like

in general type beat

[tardy ingot]

Any of the top 3 mains and top 3 specials

pretty much

[frail heart]

uhhhh probably sawed off and hel rifle, hel gun or scatter

[young trench]

alright thanksies

[hard nexus]

slug shotgun and short rifle

[safe cradle]

I'm pretty sure you cant get someone's IP even with massive amount of trickery

What I KNOW is that there was a way of getting your STEAM ID but steam never really hides that.

[livid stone]

high cal and smg

[jolly gazelle]

With gtfo or with steam routing?

[safe cradle]

It's not that easy, for one, when steam crashes badly enough, the game boots lobby back to rundown menu.

You also dont really connect directly to a client anyway, it goes through nodes

Try to get like a site close to you and tracert it

it's not going to be a single jump but way way more

I'm sure there's people who are way more qualified than me in this server to talk about it but AFAIK it's not possible

[dire hollow]

How do I take out scouts without setting them off and waking up the room

[tiny wyvern]

Heatshot with certain loud weapons will wake room, but kills scout
Full charge hammer and spear melee to head kills scout
Full charge bat and knife melee to back of the head kills scout

precision rifle, choke mod/ special shotgun, hel rifle... we can go on

[dire hollow]

Awesome thank you!

[dire hollow]

Can giants be taken down with a full charge of the hammer to the back of the head

[tiny wyvern]

No

The strat is to break the head by hitting it with full charge melees and then break limbs

That will usually stagger them, making sure they don't hit you while you try to stealth them

[dire hollow]

Got it

[silent delta]

If you have drugs!

[soft crater]

Yellow Syringes. 3x melee dmg for 1 hit within 8 seconds

[frail heart]

how many different end screens are there again?

[flat oar]

og, normal, r8e1, r8c2, r8e2 ?

[frail heart]

r8a2 as well

[finite oracle]

how is r8a2 different?

[soft crater]

Imma find the Remove GTFO from steam library end screen

[frail heart]

it says "expedition completed" instead of "expedition survived"

for secondary

[finite oracle]

i never noticed it

[soft crater]

Team was just built different. They ain't struggle to survive. Kso objective stack completed.

[hybrid schooner]

how does key distribution works?

i tried several times to parse key spawning area with log

but i still dont understand

[tardy ingot]

parse?

[hybrid schooner]

yeah

with the key weight and random value

[tardy ingot]

are you trying to figure out how it decides where to spawn keys?

for that id ask, why
i have some basic understanding due to cell spawns. But It probably wont help much for that

[hybrid schooner]

actually which area like a b c

[tardy ingot]

oh just where stuff spawns?
theres maps for all of that and a guide with explanations on it

[civic wave]

for figuring stuff out for keymaps, using a DLL/file to spawn all boxes and output text correlating each box to an ri: number

[tardy ingot]

ri:

is what you search to get a number for a key spawn

[civic wave]

there is also spawn weight, which affects distribution a bit but i'm not sure that's what you're after

[hybrid schooner]

yeah but to get a actual area like a b c and location you need specific location data like json

[tardy ingot]

o.O ?

[hybrid schooner]

like warden mapper

[tardy ingot]

wardenmapper just takes known things from logs and puts neat little markers onto screenshots of maps

[hybrid schooner]

yeah that's it i also making other mapper

[tardy ingot]

we know ri: 47 in r1a1 is the first key in G for zone 50

and we know area: 15 is hsu in B

that would then get projected onto the screenshot

its just a unique thing for whatever you wanna find

[hybrid schooner]

yes but you need r1a1.json to get area

my goal is find area without json. that's why i was asking

[tardy ingot]

uuh im a bit confused

why do you need an r1a1.json

the game itself doesnt give a top down info for where a key spawns in the level

in the logs

[tiny wyvern]

what exactly do you want to do?

[hybrid schooner]

cuz the area G is in the json
without json it doesn't know the area

[hybrid schooner]

trynna get specific area with only log

[frail heart]

i dont think the game cares what area it is

just the locker id

[tiny wyvern]

You could probs ask a plugin dev whether or not that's possible

Around modding general

[tardy ingot]

why do you need the specific area?

for key the area doesnt matter, just the specific locker (as frosty has said)

[spark wolf]

it shows the weight of each area in the logs

[tardy ingot]

ya

[spark wolf]

and it shows the random value from 0-1 to determine which to pick

that is all you need to know the area

if A is a weight of 1 and B is a weight of 1

then < 0.5 is A

rest is B

[tardy ingot]

tho why do you need to know the area for keys

when we know specific location

[hybrid schooner]

i was thinking a while, that's right haha

[hybrid schooner]

i tried it but sometimes right and sometimes wrong

gonna check it again

[wet flax]

is the game possible/fun co op?

[storm needle]

yes

4 player coop

[wet flax]

oh i mean coop like 2 players

is it still fun then?

[tardy ingot]

2 players can still be quite fun yes

[storm needle]

u can do 2 players too

[wet flax]

alr but how possible is it

cause we both kinda suck lol

[storm needle]

oh

thats what u meant

u can manage

[tardy ingot]

the difficulty doesnt scale tho, so (i presume you are taking bots for at least a while) it will become a good bit more difficult on harder levels

you can work around this by learning more about the game

this game is pretty knowledge heavy for many levels

[wet flax]

ah

that sucks

[tardy ingot]

as in you can beat them with pretty meh mechanics

[wet flax]

how punishing are the respawn mechanics?

[tardy ingot]

but in return you can also go through with less knowledge (if at least basic) if you are insane at the game

[digital mural]

GTFO doesnt have checkpoints until R6

[tardy ingot]

respawn?

[wet flax]

ah

dang

[digital mural]

That means until then if You die You DIE

[tardy ingot]

if you as a player die then you can get revived tho
unlimited times

its just if the whole team dies

[wet flax]

and there's bots to fill the other 2 spots but they suck?

[digital mural]

Bots are decent in early levels

[tardy ingot]

they dont suck

they have weird quirks

which can suck

[wet flax]

ah

[tardy ingot]

but bots will perform better than most beginners for a good bit if you let them

again, knowledge of what to do will win levels quite easily

[wet flax]

how much levels are there?

[digital mural]

Bots are good at 2 thing than any other players
Biotracker
Stealth

[digital mural]

84

[tardy ingot]

well

83 + tutorial
theres optional objectives for a lot of levels tho, with some being entirely different ways to play the level

[wet flax]

thats neat

how long does the avg. level take?

[tardy ingot]

easily hundreds of hours that you will need to go through to beat it all

depends on your pace and skill level

[digital mural]

For new people anywhere from 30 mins to 1 hour 30 mins

Some levels 2

for new people

[wet flax]

damn

and if u die once you gotta restart??

[tardy ingot]

generally yes

[wet flax]

dang

[tardy ingot]

a good example for pace mattering is the first level tho

beginners often take 45-60 min on it

[wet flax]

well would yall reccomend it for 2 players?

[wild flare]

r1-r5 yes

[digital mural]

.t lfg

[tardy ingot]

when its a 5-10 min level, when crouching

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[tardy ingot]

if you like the idea of the game, yes
but you can also always try and find other beginners on here

or grab more friends for it

[digital mural]

I recommend trying the game first with a full team if possible

Just to start getting used to it

GTFO needs a lot of dedication, time and learning

So good luck

[wet flax]

A bit like ready or not

if any of yall ever played that

[digital mural]

Not even close

2 way different games

[wet flax]

they certainly sound alike

[wild flare]

i cant come with anything close to gtfo tbh

[tardy ingot]

they are pretty different

[digital mural]

Welp
They are not alike in any way really

[wet flax]

hard levels, lots of gunplay

[digital mural]

RoN isnt even hard

At all

[tardy ingot]

they also play very different
the stealth is just not the same, with it being a pretty appearant thing in gtfo to play around

[digital mural]

GTFO is a mix of stealth and action

[wet flax]

is the stealth hard? i kinda hate stealth

[digital mural]

If You make it hard yes

[tardy ingot]

not... rly i guess

people still make a lot of mistakes, especially beginners

so

[digital mural]

You don't have to crouch all the time
Or move slowly

[wet flax]

nice

[digital mural]

People that complain about stealth make it hard for themselves

(i Say this because i have seen ton of people saying GTFO is a crouch simulator)

[wet flax]

i see

well thanks for yalls responses

how much people do you guys usually play with?

[wild flare]

0 xd

[digital mural]

I have my team

[wet flax]

damn

[wet flax]

so 4 players?

[digital mural]

Ye

[wet flax]

alr alr

that puts it into perspective yk

[tardy ingot]

0-3 lol

or if actually different people, like a dozen or so

[digital mural]

We kinda suck at the game

So

[wet flax]

well i think ive made up my mind

thanks yall

it was either this or dying light 2

[digital mural]

Dying light 2

Easy pick

[tardy ingot]

eh

[wild flare]

bruh

[tardy ingot]

casual game vs in depth challenging one

dying light 2 is also... not unqiue

[digital mural]

But it's really fun

[tardy ingot]

its a preference thing in the end for that

[wild flare]

i heard that dl 1 > dl 2

[tardy ingot]

yes

[digital mural]

Yes

DL2 isnt a bad game
It didnt deliver what they promissed :b

But overall
Fun game

[wild flare]

for me it got boring rly fast ( dl 1 )

[tardy ingot]

getting into the main character is what I enjoy for stuff like that

[digital mural]

🤨

[wet flax]

wait, is it true the game is shuttiung down soon??

i read on steam articles the devs abandoned it and its gonna shut down

[tardy ingot]

no lol
tho id love to see that linked xD

[wild flare]

wat

bullshit

game finished = devs abandoned it xd

[tardy ingot]

the devs have stopped updating the game (its basically finished, with some glitches obviously) and theyll do patches for when major stuff breaks

[wet flax]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/493520/discussions/0/5756211305429803102/?ctp=2

[tardy ingot]

they are working on another game currently

[wet flax]

oh thats neat

[grizzled patrol]

shutting down? nah its still running. just not being updated anymore

[digital mural]

Bruh

[tardy ingot]

thats an article from when we didnt even have R8 yet

as in there were still like 3 of the currently available campaigns not even in the game

oh yea
ingame matchmaking is pretty iffy tho (for multiple reasons)

you either host lobbies with friends
or host/find lobbies on this server via the lfg system on here

[digital mural]

Game shutting down soon
1 year old article

Thats not soon

[tardy ingot]

1 1/2 year old

[grizzled patrol]

i think it was written during the times gtfo had problems with the playfab servers. it was their fault tho, not 10C

[tardy ingot]

that does fit as that happened while I was in canada (which fits with the time frame)

[wet flax]

mb

[lament tapir]

Hi, its been a year since I last spoke here, I've encountered a very very teeny tiny problem though, a work related accident involving a certain very fancy welder has left me with head trauma and permeant hearing loss in my right ear! Any mods or anything to add like indicators to where sounds are coming from?

[ocean spindle]

i dont believe so, but deaf gtfo gaming still is possible as demonstrated by a player called wyvernking, u could ask him about some strats and stuff :]

he be real cool at the gaming

[lament tapir]

Oh sick!

[digital mural]

The Legend himself

@eternal bridge

[ocean spindle]

the silly billy

:3

[past mesa]

There is a bio indicator mod that tells you when enemies are in the second phase

but realistically it is just a take bio tracker angle

bio gives you a lot of info

Which is sometimes better than sound

Sometimes worse

[eternal bridge]

Not a legend here but I’ll take it

[eternal bridge]

No worries! I can help ya out with some methods of soundless madness XD

Most of the strata usually involve being the Bio-guy

[lament tapir]

Lmao that makes alot of sense

[eternal bridge]

I mean, being deaf means you need as much visual info as possible. (Shadows are a real PITA tho)

I usually take a thermal wpn for it unless someone can be the “follow this guy” during shadow parts

I do have a soundless guide on steam

It’s still under the same name as I have here but look up Soundless as the text and it should be there with a no-sound icon

It kinda details my line of thought process in a robotic way

[silent delta]

Deaf strat bring pdw

[eternal bridge]

Used to be viable when R7 first came

Right now, it’s whenever if you feel like it

[lament tapir]

Thank you I will take a looksie

[silent delta]

It would be cool if there was some sort of mod to visualize sounds

Like that one fuckin game uhhhh

Lurkers?

[eternal bridge]

Idk

[silent delta]

Lurking

That's the one

You play with echolocation

[eternal bridge]

It makes sense but since I’m able to finish the entire game without sounds, I’m not really interested in sound visualization mod

Takes away a lot of the hard work and effort

[silent delta]

Were you a codehunter or a defender on r4e1 secondary

[eternal bridge]

I don’t remember

[silent delta]

Oh no I'm not meaning to discredit you, what you've done is fuckin insane lmao

I'm just saying it would be interesting in addition to soundless madman

[eternal bridge]

Well, a sound visualization was interesting back then but post completion: not so much but could be ideal for soundless noobies

[jagged shore]

and it would enable slightly less mad soundless people to do still experience stuff yeah

[eternal bridge]

I ran all the tools while soundless (takes awhile without bio tho)

What I’m trying to say is: if you’re running soundless, BE PREPARED to treat your own hearing as your own liability

[silent delta]

Maybe something simple

Like when a shadow is clicking there's some sort of visual effect

To make shadow stealthing slightly less hell

[tiny wyvern]

Well the other guy still has one ear I think

[past mesa]

There is a mod on bio for this

[tiny wyvern]

It's not going to be THAT bad

[eternal bridge]

Shadows are already hell, regardless if mods are involved. If they’re clumped together. It’s nearly impossible

[past mesa]

to show clicking

[eternal bridge]

I’m referring Full soundless

[past mesa]

But tbh every shadow room in the game can just be shot up

and you just ping

[past mesa]

There is a bio mod that shows clicking as a visual indicator

[eternal bridge]

There was a level that waking up a shadow room is a very bad idea and is a run ended

[tiny wyvern]

Betterbio

[past mesa]

Which one?

[eternal bridge]

I forgot which one. It’s been awhile for me too

[past mesa]

R8e2 is probs the only one

ngl

But you making it there

You have another buddy who can do the stealth

Or you can do scream cancel tech

[eternal bridge]

It wasn’t R8

[tiny wyvern]

R5D1

[past mesa]

I think if you go back to the room

You will be able to shoot it up

[past mesa]

Yeah you can shoot this up

[tiny wyvern]

Rlly?

[silent delta]

The last zone in r4e1 secondary?

[past mesa]

you shopt it up

Everytime

Stealthing it is troll

[silent delta]

I meant more if you get shit rng and multiple scouts spawn in the first room

I had a run where all four spawned in the first room

[past mesa]

R4e1 secondary last room

[silent delta]

Lmao shadows are bad enough when you can hear

[past mesa]

Rn only has 2 scouts

[silent delta]

Doesn't the zone for the sixth code have like 3 rooms and four scout?

[past mesa]

3 rooms 2 scouts

4 shadow giants

4 regular giants

10 -15 small shadows

[silent delta]

Idk I have literally never codehunted all I've heard is what my overstressed and tilted teammates told me

[past mesa]

LOL

yeah it isn’t that bad

[silent delta]

Listen man I'm a bio main, I hold wages

Waves

[past mesa]

Double bio level

[silent delta]

Autocorrect is fucking me rn

Oh yeah I know

But I'm like, the main bio

[past mesa]

Ah

[silent delta]

Most of my crew i run bio so often I'm the best at it

And one of em just tosses it on so they can ping scouts/the Fuck You Blood Door

[past mesa]

I am the 3rd worst player on my team so I get the bio

[silent delta]

We did have a run that made it to the sixth code, reactor waves were under control, everything was fine

My friend turns around to go put in code six

And then suddenly goes down

Jumpscare shadow giant from the codehunters no one noticed

[past mesa]

LOL

[silent delta]

Run died :(

[past mesa]

But actually

[silent delta]

Hm?

[past mesa]

Almost every room
In the game with shadows

Can just be shot

Like you ping scout

Shoot scout

Then kill room

[silent delta]

Silent shoot the scout 😇

[past mesa]

Not even talking about exploits

Yet

[eternal bridge]

No shit. But it’s the fact that shadows provide as little to no visual support that makes it rough. Thermal works but ONLY if it’s isolated

I’m a room full of shadows, it’s both pray, carefulness, and pray again

[past mesa]

Wdym only if isolated

[eternal bridge]

If it’s clustered and blocks your path, while others are around you

And wakeups are not ideal

[past mesa]

oh just force the correct wake ups

[eternal bridge]

And give it a chance to wake up the room? No

[past mesa]

forcing the correct wake ups

Is the safest stealth

in the game

Double kills are just safer than single kills because of long range

And controlled long range is the safest method in group setting above 3

Because it controls the only issue of single kills

[eternal bridge]

Not if it Bs long Afro

[past mesa]

No

You can fully control

Long range

With these two methods

Assuming you don’t ever hit an enemy twice

[eternal bridge]

Back now. Was driving home

[eternal bridge]

I won’t deny that. But wouldn’t using spears make that far safer to make that happen?

[past mesa]

If you hit head/back every time

Yeah

but hammer has sprint which makes it better for saving broken stealth

[eternal bridge]

Spear has sprint now tho? (Slower yes)

[past mesa]

spear sprint should mostly be considered worthless

[eternal bridge]

Gotcha

[past mesa]

The most useful part about it is alerting scouts

so they stop moving

Or small extensions of the swing

[eternal bridge]

Spears makes scouts easy unless it’s Chargers

The room that I had the most issues beforeR7 was d3 overload

Trying to snipe that shadow scout was a 50/50

[past mesa]

r6d3 overload?

[eternal bridge]

Yea

[past mesa]

We had this discussion

There is a line up with sniper

to make it more consistent

3rd line on the bio ping

then small adjustment due to height

[eternal bridge]

Yea. But that’s why I say it’s still 50/50 cuz based on where shadows are in that room, you can either try it and end up hitting the shoulder that’s blocking that line of shot

[past mesa]

Most of the time

3rd line on sniper hits

[native sun]

HEL Rifle moment

[eternal bridge]

I was referring Pre-R7 where Hel Rifle wasnt in OG R6

[sick locust]

Can the first level of the game have cfoam?

Or is it unable to spawn

Nvm I answered my own question

[safe cradle]

it can have foam nades in the res zone

not sure if before

I know for a fact that tripmines can spawn in the starting zone

[flat oar]

starting zone can spawn c-foam

[sick locust]

Yeah, I just got 2 trip mines but no foam

I’ve gotten 2 foam on one attempt

Died to a scout

Two scouts spawned at the same time

[safe cradle]

It's always two there

They either are in different or the same room

If you're doing it 100% solo no bots you can cheese the clear by just stealthing shit, bringing foam and luckshit 2 tripmines, 1 for each alarm.

[sick locust]

Btw, is the hell gun any good? I’m running spear, smg, and hell gun right now

[sick locust]

I’m doing complete solo

[safe cradle]

It's fine if you're good at aiming

[sick locust]

Oh and I’m using the shoty turret

[safe cradle]

HEL Rifle's more lenient since you can bodyshot most shit

[sick locust]

I’ll probably swap to that if I die again

First time ever playing this game

[safe cradle]

That depends a lot on where you place it and the situation, I'd just take burst sentry tbh

[safe cradle]

Just so you know, if you're doing this because you think it's easier without the bots, it's not.

[sick locust]

Yeah, but I just watched markiplier and so now I wanna try

The extent of my knowledge is the first 7 episodes + both solo episodes of mark

So far the furthest I’ve gotten was the alarm of the key door

Died to that

[frail heart]

I wouldnt take what markiplier does/uses as them being good

That was OG

And also they didnt have gun knowledge

[sick locust]

Oh, I didn’t take what guns I thought were good from them, I looked up “what are the best guns in gtfo”

By the knowledge from mark, I meant the stealth knowledge

And weak point knowledge

[civic wave]

ah nice, what'd you find?

[sick locust]

Smg was the main one

Said it was probably the best gun in the game

The Van Auken LTC 5 SMG

[civic wave]

it's the gamerant article isn't it

[sick locust]

Yep

It’s serving me pretty well so far though

[civic wave]

i'm so sorry, but that article is complete garbage, you may ask players in the community what the best guns are - there's a consensus, or you may read one of rayalot72s reddit posts, or a podcast style video by d4rkeva which is a tad outdated but still relevant

its not a bad gun by any means but definitely on the weaker side

[sick locust]

What would you recommend as a main gun?

[sturdy glen]

Sawed off

[topaz anvil]

That post is so fucking funny

Gamerant can be such comedians

[hardy grotto]

I had forgotten about it until now ngl

[civic wave]

Depends on a mix of comfort and strength
Sawed off is indisputably the best
Hel autopistol if you want an automatic gun (or perhaps pdw for the utility of thermal scope)
Hel revo and dmr if you like single shot weapons
Hel shotgun is probably a bit too niche

[sick locust]

What is good for solo running?

[sturdy glen]

Sawed off

[sick locust]

Ok, I’ll give the sawed off a try once I die (cause I’m definitely gonna die again, this run isn’t going well at all)

[sturdy glen]

Gl

[sick locust]

Thank you

[civic wave]

i guess carbine is also a thing, easy to use and relatively strong for the basic weapons (by which i mean the "standard" guns that have no special quirks or features)

[sick locust]

I’ll give the sawed off a try, and then if I die again, which is likely, I’ll try the carbine

[hardy grotto]

Recommending hel auto pp is insane ngl

[sick locust]

Is it not good?

[hardy grotto]

Worst weapon to recommend to a beginner I think

It’s a gimmick weapon

[sick locust]

Ah

[hardy grotto]

and it’s also not good

[sick locust]

That’s fun

[civic wave]

mhm guess so, remember hearing "best automatic weapon" a bunch which would be the explanation

[sick locust]

Gotta love 4 dudes sitting together in a scout room

[native sun]

Worth mentioning, while good guns are generally going to be good in most situations (this is generally what makes them good), there is still some amount of picking the right weapon for the situation

[native sun]

Bonk scout and come back for them

[sick locust]

Probably should’ve done that

Died already tho

Is shoty turret good or should I swap it?

[native sun]

It is the worst turret in the game

By like, a lot

[sick locust]

Oh

[native sun]

For R1A1, burst is generally going to be your best option

[sick locust]

Guess I shouldn’t have trusted mark

[sturdy glen]

Mark had the right idea, just 4 years ago

Actually is it 5 now

[native sun]

Mark is a capital G Gamer, but he also played ages ago and was very insular, by which I mean he developed his own opinions about what was good which don't necessarily reflect what the community settled on being good

[sick locust]

Ok, so burst is best?

[native sun]

For R1A1, yeah

[civic wave]

for what you're doing, yes

[sick locust]

And is it a good idea to place turret outside door facing across it and then foam the door

[native sun]

If you just want the clear though, you can also permafoam the alarm and rely in finding a consumable tripmine

[native sun]

No

[sick locust]

Ok so what do, it has gotten me through the first alarm pretty well

[native sun]

Enemies will stack up on the door faster than turret kills them, and then when it breaks you'll have to fight 10 at once and die

Place turret inside with you, leave door open, you can close door if there is a terrible scan that is by the door

[native sun]

But still this though

[sick locust]

Ok

So what do I do for the key door afterwards though?

Without a turret I think I’d die pretty quick

[native sun]

You have a door again

You do the same thing

[sick locust]

I don’t think I’d have enough foam for 2 doors

[native sun]

(You also don't need to permafoam the first alarm, it is doable with just shooting, you can even ground foam to make it easier)

You bring the foam launcher

And you use the tool refill packerinos

[sick locust]

So just kinda pray I get trip mines with that strat?

[native sun]

Ye

[sick locust]

Ok

I’ll do like 2 more attempts and then try that strategy

[native sun]

Trying with sentry is very cool, and you'll learn a lot more trying to hold with sentry

But it is a lot harder (I remember needing many many hours to be good enough to do it)

And you don't want to bash your head against the wall

[sick locust]

Yeah, I’ll probably actually play with friends once they actually have the game and then all my problems will be both solved and multiplied

[native sun]

If you've beaten the first alarm true solo then you'll be big chilling with team mates

[sick locust]

Yeah, but brain cells go down when playing with friends, so that’s the problem multiplier

The more I use glow sticks the more I like them

[native sun]

Glowsticks are unironically very good in solo

[wild flare]

make glowticks permanent, not 1-2 mins

[urban oriole]

i dont think they need to be permanent

but they def need to last an actual amount of time for their value

[safe cradle]

I kinda agree even thought I like HEL autopistol

It's certanly not a weapon I'd use soloing, especially

On the other hand I also wouldn't recommend sawn off either

Mainly because of all the newbies I've seen picking it and using it like shit

It's just NOT as intuitive as Carbine and that's why Carbine's my go to whenever someone asks me for a good/reliable main

[hardy grotto]

Eh it’s fairly easy to use

It’s just a shotgun

[safe cradle]

Yeah but consider missing

[hardy grotto]

I mean that can happen with any gun

If you’re expecting a beginner to be good with any gun it’s a little weird

[safe cradle]

If you miss with sawn off that's 25% of the mag down the drain

[hardy grotto]

with a really fast reload

[civic wave]

with sawed off you can still get partial hits and stagger

so in some ways it's more forgiving

[hardy grotto]

It’s just a massively overtuned gun that you can’t really go all that wrong with

but carbine isn’t a horrible recommendation either

[civic wave]

of course missing will hurt a bit more than a gun with more in the magazine, but that's just how it goes

misses should be considered by how much they threaten your stability than how big of a % of a magazine 1 bullet is

[safe cradle]

Dont really know if this will make sense but my take is as such: if you dont know most or nearly anything about the game, you'd be better off with Carbine.

[hardy grotto]

I mean you don’t really have to know about stagger to get use out of it

[safe cradle]

It's not really an hill I want to fight on since I agree using sawn off decently ain't rocket science

[civic wave]

yes because you won't know about engagement ranges or avoiding attacks which will likely make a gun that lets you blanket an area with bullets more effective than a shotgun

[hardy grotto]

you’ll either shoot from too far and get stagger or you’ll whiff half the pellets and probably still stagger

[hardy grotto]

Coward smh

[safe cradle]

Oh come on!

[hardy grotto]

it’s not really a gtfo discussion if we don’t argue for hours and hours

[civic wave]

come down london right now mate ill fight yous instead

[hardy grotto]

Both weapons are just very simple to use

[civic wave]

gerz wins every time btw

[hardy grotto]

Which is good for beginners

[native sun]

I think a beginner would be better at using Goat, but once you understand how to dodge then Gerz gets a lot better

I think Sawed Off beats Carbine in a fight as well

[hardy grotto]

How hard does sawed off beat carbine by

is it worth going to watch or is it over instantly

[sturdy glen]

Sawed off kills on the first shot, dumps the last 3 for fun, then tbags the corpse

[hardy grotto]

sounds about right

[tardy ingot]

I loved reading the first sentence of this

Cuz it was my exact thought when i read smg xD

[ocean spindle]

gamerrant my beloved r5a1 top 10 hardest levels of the game

[topaz anvil]

🔥

[sick locust]

What do the tiers of matchmaking mean? Is A or E the lowest?

[ocean spindle]

A is the easiest, E is the hardest, u can check by clickin a rundown how they go top to bottom

[sick locust]

Oh

[ocean spindle]

mm is still not recommended tho

[civic wave]

It refers to the tier of level - but you are advised not to use matchmaking

[ocean spindle]

much better to use the LFG channels here

[sick locust]

I used matchmaking and assumed E was the lowest, makes more sense why I got put in a team of people who didn’t stealth at all and just ran through

[ocean spindle]

the funny

[tardy ingot]

can you even matchmake for E tiers when you are new ?

[sick locust]

Yep

[civic wave]

matchmaking has 0 safeguards

[fathom ice]

my first mm was r2e1 💀

[sick locust]

Mine was (just now) R7E1 I think

[fathom ice]

oof

just use

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[sick locust]

Ok, thanks

[sick locust]

Thoughts on the Hel Auto Sentry?

[digital mural]

Niche

Not bad not good

It's not something i would always carry

[sick locust]

How is it at horde clearing?

Compared to burst

[digital mural]

Burst and sniper are just better in every single way

[digital mural]

Bad

[sick locust]

Ok

Thanks

[digital mural]

Auto sentry isnt made to kill hordes

[sick locust]

Trying to solo the first level with no bots

[digital mural]

Ah

If it's solo bring mines then

[sick locust]

Ok

Thanks for the advice

Mines worked really well

Thanks

[tardy ingot]

its either pretty bad or situationally goated
its the only sentry that does extra dmg if it hits enemies from behind (this is a bug, sentries arent supposed to do this) + pen

so if its placed in a super tight choke it can do well at killing. its just neither efficient nor otherwise consistent, so burst it is

[sick locust]

Ok

[grizzled patrol]

clearing? no

[prisma ivy]

is sitting in one of the dumptrucks considered cheese?

need an opinion

like sitting in the back

[ocean spindle]

ummm which trucks? like the one in r1c1?

[prisma ivy]

^

yes

to me it is 100%

[ocean spindle]

i mean not really, tongues can still get to u from what i remember and shooters are the exact same

plus theres like so few of them that are useful, the one in r1c1 is just to see enemies better

but i dont remmeber if u can get hit on one

[prisma ivy]

ok

[hardy grotto]

depends

its a cheese spot if tongues cant get you

but it also depends on if ur sitting there to avoid tongues

if ur just sat there to get height and shoot enemies from a distance then its probably fine

[prisma ivy]

sure

[safe cradle]

It kinda depends, I usually get down from there if enemies get really close, but the elevation helps kill shit with PR and DMR from that height

If you stand on that just some further back you cant get tongued by strikers

Giants I think can still hit you

And unless you're shooterbugged so can shooters and hybrids

[civic wave]

i can't believe that this was 50/50 if you disregard my vote for gerz, she'd kick my ass every time idk why people expect me to be able to do anything

[minor fractal]

The E-tier records are calling

[civic wave]

that reads ominously

not sure whether an inside joke, trying to recruit me for speeds, or input on why gerz would beat the shit outta me

[tardy ingot]

D - all of the above

[forest phoenix]

Is there a list explaining utility and usefulness of all of the weapons? That's up to date?

I've been pretty stuck with the Shellings, both. Fantastic guns, the pistol and heavy pistol.

[tiny wyvern]

Tru has a spreadsheet
Does that count?

[forest phoenix]

The numbers don't really mean a whole lot to me.

Something like "Gun good at crowds bad at giants" and "Good at Giants bad at Crowds" type deal.

[tiny wyvern]

Both pistols are fine enough in practice, when you get overrun it hurts slightly
The burst pistol can work fine in crowds, machine and hel pis both do well against the crowds

[forest phoenix]

And I was hoping if there was a defining list for.. everything.

[meager lotus]

probably hella outdated but the core reasoning for each weapon still accurate

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=german&id=1935982937

[digital mural]

Crowd control: shotguns, hel pistol, Hel shotgun, hel revo, carbine, MGs, hel gun

Giants/bosses: burst cannon, scattergun, sniper, hel rifle, Hel gun, sawed off

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah that one you shared is fine

[forest phoenix]

Yeah, yeah. Like that steam link you posted.

Thank ya.

Question. Folk don't like the bat?

[digital mural]

Bat is fine

But hammer is just superior

[forest phoenix]

I really do not find myself liking the hammer.

[digital mural]

The only good thing about it is the stagger

And being able to break locks in one hit

And thats about it

[tiny wyvern]

You can use it for quick clear like the knife if you really want to

[digital mural]

(Im talking about the bat)

[tiny wyvern]

Hammer's a good all rounder for damage

And mobility

[digital mural]

We don't talk about spear

[tiny wyvern]

(You need either that or spear for hybrid stealth effectively)

[forest phoenix]

Why not Spear?

[digital mural]

Spear sucks

[tiny wyvern]

You can't run

Mostly that

[ocean spindle]

and the speed

and the animation :D

[tiny wyvern]

So against crowds you're a sitting duck

[digital mural]

Can't run
Mediocre damage
Long charge time

[forest phoenix]

I keep hearing about Spear being a great thing..

[digital mural]

No

[tiny wyvern]

Waiting to get triple licked to death

[ocean spindle]

u in the wrong circles :[

[digital mural]

Spear is just trash

There isnt nothing good about spear

[tiny wyvern]

In the right context it's aight
Like most melees

And guns

[ocean spindle]

ermm ermm
the stinger is cool

design

wise

[digital mural]

Yeah design wise is top tier

I love it

[ocean spindle]

knife on stick :3

goes hard

[tiny wyvern]

Aside from sniper and short rifle
This game has very little "bad" weapons

Hell, the pistol can stick around until late R8 before you need to take something else

[digital mural]

Whoever designed the spear clearly knew what he was doing

[ocean spindle]

pistol my beloved

[forest phoenix]

My experience with the Spear is that it's been fantastic for safe giant clear.

[tiny wyvern]

Yes

[forest phoenix]

But that's... about it.

[tiny wyvern]

Then you get swarmed and die

[ocean spindle]

thats fair but with people u dont rlly need it either

[digital mural]

You can do the same with hammer

[lament tapir]

Does C-foam do anything to enemies while its layed on the ground? Like does it slow them or stop them?

[ocean spindle]

freezes them

[digital mural]

Yeah

[tiny wyvern]

Sorta, the blood freezes them

[forest phoenix]

Hammer's not as safe for quiet Giant clear.

[ocean spindle]

depending on the enemy it might do for less or more time

[ocean spindle]

gotta full charge and hit a limb, same as spear

but with a team it gets easier

u dont rlly need to go by soloing bigs

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah, but it's not that bad
compared to knife stealth ginat

[ocean spindle]

unless achievement

[forest phoenix]

Knife vs Giant scares me.

[ocean spindle]

silly :3

[tiny wyvern]

[[c-foam]]

[forest phoenix]

I love Knife. Feels very good.

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/C-foam?action=edit&redlink=1

[ocean spindle]

RIGHT i need to use this

[forest phoenix]

Knife feels like a constant safe experience for me.

[tiny wyvern]

[[C-Foam]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/C-Foam

[tiny wyvern]

There that one works

[ocean spindle]

it the fun weapon

but i am a bat

[lament tapir]

The sniper isn't bad, its really good to use it as a anti-tank weapon, it can one shot giants, hybrids, and scouts

[digital mural]

Scattergun

[ocean spindle]

yes but also others can do so

[digital mural]

Burst cannon

[forest phoenix]

Bat has saved the party a few times, knife has kept me alive more times than it should have being able to quick swipe with low stam costs..

[digital mural]

Sawed off even

[ocean spindle]

i mean 30 dmg u couldve said any 30 dmg

[lament tapir]

Its has a scope though, you can snipe shit while outside the room so you can lead enemies that awaken into turrets

[ocean spindle]

i mean so does the hel rifle tbf ksks

[digital mural]

Burst cannon
Hel rifle

[tiny wyvern]

I mean you can precision rifle

[ocean spindle]

prec rifle for scouts is good too

and hybrids kinda kindish sort of

[tiny wyvern]

Sniper overdamages tumors if I remember right

Right?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

by a lot

[forest phoenix]

You are a bat?

[lament tapir]

Does the hel rifle instantly kill bigger enemies?

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah so you lose damage

[tiny wyvern]

No

[ocean spindle]

no but it does pen

like hit through more than one

[ocean spindle]

i am a bat :3

[forest phoenix]

Bat.. main?

[digital mural]

You get more use overall with Hel rifle compared to sniper

[ocean spindle]

bat

[forest phoenix]

?????

[digital mural]

bat

[forest phoenix]

I like the bats.

[ocean spindle]

:D

[forest phoenix]

Their design is nice.

[lament tapir]

I like being able to snipe the bigger stuff and instantly have them dead, over penetrating doesnt really matter if you are aiming far above everyone elses head

[tiny wyvern]

Except bbcs exist

[ocean spindle]

i mean it kinda does tho but well

theres also other options as burts cannon but shure

sniper is like, fine until the deeper missions

[tiny wyvern]

And all the other bigs in the game

[ocean spindle]

i do like sniper

kinda

it is fun for some missions

[tiny wyvern]

Sniper's fine

You just... really can't fight queen with it

[lament tapir]

Idk its just what I've been doing and its been working for me

[ocean spindle]

i mean it is not that fine but

[tiny wyvern]

Or a mom

[ocean spindle]

a

[ocean spindle]

maybs in the later levels u need sumn more flexible but just have it there

in the back of ur head

[tiny wyvern]

Sniper works with a team that can crowd clear for you

And if you can manage the ammo balance

On normal missions without large crowds you don't suffer much, 2 rounds per mag still hurts though

That and the reload

(I mean I use revolver and machine pis as an actual build, it's inefficient as hell but it still works, sniper would too)

[ocean spindle]

ah the piss

[digital mural]

Hel pistol + combat shotgun

[hardy grotto]

Wdym when you say queen

pmom?

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[hardy grotto]

Or bigger one

sniper into pmom isn’t that bad lol

[ocean spindle]

oh right it exists the other

[hardy grotto]

I think sniper into normal moms is dumb tho

Shoot your 2 bullets and honestly just leave it at that

unless you need to balance hard

[tardy ingot]

#guides-and-reviews message

i figure this is partially what you are looking for

[hardy grotto]

wait for the shooting guide

you’re NOT gonna wanna miss that

[tardy ingot]

also bad dmg for its charge time aswell as uncharged
bad stagger

[tardy ingot]

so can scattergun
(and for scout so can 10 weapons xD)

sniper def isnt good, considering that unless you face hybrids or ||kraken|| its just a liability most often

[tardy ingot]

litteraly the slowest weapon to kill one solo

but ye its quite decent into pmom, especially with how pmom usually shows up when you fight it (somewhat far away)

[frail heart]

i prefer hammer

very ammo efficient

[tardy ingot]

im moreso a knife guy into pmom ngl

[frail heart]

okay scaler

[tardy ingot]

nah knife unironically the pmom melee goat

[hardy grotto]

scaler wouldn’t last a second in London tbh

[topaz anvil]

does this mean im better than scaler

[hardy grotto]

At knifing people yeah

it’s kinda in our blood

[tardy ingot]

tbf

what makes you think scaler wont show up with a gun to a knife fight

[hardy grotto]

well I can’t know

[topaz anvil]

Guns aren't allowed typically in the UK

[frail heart]

wait gerz is a brit?

[hardy grotto]

But I’d hope he wouldn’t

Why do so many people ask that

Is it not obvious

[topaz anvil]

shocked me too tbh

[frail heart]

I thought you were american

[hardy grotto]

wtf

No

[tardy ingot]

you dont run around with knifes all day

[frail heart]

I heard no accent

[tardy ingot]

smh beth

[tardy ingot]

wtf

[topaz anvil]

the americans can claim you :D

[frail heart]

tbf i think i just compare all people to goat

[tardy ingot]

honestly the only thing pointing to american is beths sometimes absolute wonky sleep schedule

[frail heart]

and no one has an accent compared to goat

[topaz anvil]

Goat is built different in accent i swear

dialect more like but

[frail heart]

id never heard that dialect before tbf

[topaz anvil]

neither 💀

living in the genuine middle of nowhere

[frail heart]

im surprised isolated towns in australia dont speak a different language

[civic wave]

thanks i guess

I'm not a good benchmark but i can go scouse if you'd like

[tardy ingot]

you are from down under tbf

[tardy ingot]

just go to germany (again)
theres a fuck ton of differing ways to speak german

[topaz anvil]

or go to belgium and understand nothing

[frail heart]

me when our country has like some of the most diverse dialects/languages in the entire world if not the most

[humble night]

I live in china

[frail heart]

speak chinese

[tardy ingot]

you live in duckburg, dont lie

[humble night]

Wo de zhongwen ren

[hardy grotto]

bro thinks hes fooling someone

[hardy grotto]

ive heard this before too

i think ive also been molded by the people i hang out with to pronounce stuff the way americans do

chewsday is erased from my vocab

[topaz anvil]

[hardy grotto]

it is quite tragic

[topaz anvil]

I will weep for you

[humble night]

Shooting guide pls 🥲

[hardy grotto]

soon

[fathom ice]

^

[urban oriole]

how to line goobers for hel gun shots guide

[topaz anvil]

Word. Someone tell me this and I'll finally use hel revo

[urban oriole]

with hel gun* smol eepy typo

[topaz anvil]

Hel gun is unviable you see. Anything other than 0.1 chargeup is unplayable

[urban oriole]

your reaction time is slower than 0.1

[prime musk]

i mean same as for hel rifle? except also aim for head?

[urban oriole]

its supposed to be like a joke yt title

and i was gonna say hel rifle instead of hel gun but i wanted to not

[ocean spindle]

why u wanna line up me smh

[urban oriole]

test pen :3

[ocean spindle]

wanna see if it goes through walls testin on chairs smh

[urban oriole]

does the game have destructable chairs ( destructable anything (no) )

[topaz anvil]

Padlocks

[ocean spindle]

omg so true

[plain snow]

your team8s bodies that u use as a chair at 3am

[urban oriole]

the

[unreal lynx]

I've played recently with a person who had an axe as a mele weapon. If some one could tell me more about this weapon i would be grateful.

[digital mural]

#hc-modded people there know

Its a custom weapon

You have to mess around with the files of the game and stuff

[past mesa]

It is a essentially a hammer skin probs

[digital mural]

Yes it is

[unreal lynx]

thanx yaall

[tiny wyvern]

Quick question, cause I have no idea about og stuff, when was the light system reworked?

[frail heart]

Full release I believe

So OG r6 release

I think they also did some stuff on r8 release

[tiny wyvern]

Someone in modded asked whether or not the old reflections(?) on the artifacts can be remodded in, and I'm trying to figure out if that's even possible
Or tied to the old system

Would anyone around here in particular know ANYTHING about this