gtfo-related-questions

[grizzled badger]

is the mine launcher better than the burst sentry?

[urban oriole]

they have different uses

[grizzled badger]

yeah thanks mate !

but like

is it worth bringing over the sentry

[digital mural]

Depends

Is there doors You can use?
How many enemies are on the room?
Will you be pulling most of rooms?

How many alarms and what are the room layout?

Totally 2 different tools
Cant be compared

[digital mural]

In every level You want at least one sentry and one biotracker

[viscid zinc]

Is 1 charged attack from hammer in the head is enough to kill scout or it also needs to be a hit in the back?

[digital mural]

its enough

only bat and knife to the back of the head

[viscid zinc]

Thanks

[stiff hearth]

the tank spawn will be queued or just skipped during surge scan?

[grizzled sandal]

skipped iirc

[fathom ice]

i feel like it's queued

but error is skipped usually so

[civic wave]

surge will spawn cap the tank, then it'll do checks every minute to see if tank can be spawned iirc

if there's enough room in cap for tank to spawn, it will

[hardy grotto]

If 10 enemies are alive tank won’t spawn

If there’s less it starts a 20 second timer

So tank will spawn about 20 seconds after you clear most of surge

[civic wave]

advanced knowledge, nice

[past mesa]

Beth what if there was a way to get enemies stuck on like a ladder then the tank wouldn’t spawn anymore

[fathom ice]

god bless Beth knowledge

[sturdy glen]

every piece of gtfo knowledge ever can be traced back to tru...

[hardy grotto]

Actually ray was the one who looked for that I think

[sturdy glen]

ray is not real

[prime musk]

can you delay/prevent first tank by immediately pulling first room then?
or has the timer started already atp

[hardy grotto]

I think it’s just not enough enemies?

idk, this was discussed before in regards to doing the solo

but I don’t remember it being viable

For whatever reason

[prime musk]

ill try to find that discussion (was it in here or where do i go to read it?)

[hardy grotto]

No fucking idea

[prime musk]

sounds miserable as a solo strat anyways because you just get long kiting entire error, which isn't necessary as it can be cleared anyways

[hardy grotto]

it was somewhere

but I think you just don’t have time is the problem

[past mesa]

I think it doesn’t matter

How room enemies effect the first block of spawns is werid

Gtfr had some crazy issues with this

[civic wave]

possibly, eva and tgb were talking about it for doing the "0 tank" r4e1 run but you're not going to get enough enemies for it, at least not in alt

so the run was pretty lame using early drop and door bugs

[hardy grotto]

Thing is I feel like in og it was a lot more doable but I don’t think ppl ever did it

[prime musk]

no chance to pull C as well because time im guessing

[hardy grotto]

So ur probably right

[sturdy glen]

I mean you can probably pull enough enemies with stuck jump right

[hardy grotto]

TRUE

[past mesa]

I stuck jumped this girl last night you should have seen her face

it was all like &(&/$

(She hates when I early drop her)

[sturdy glen]

jish you ran r2d1 last night

there were no women

(that we know of)

[hardy grotto]

All the nights blend together

[past mesa]

Why do you think I was checked out

focus was else where

[hardy grotto]

did you guys win

[past mesa]

We had 3 downs every single run

but we beat the any% time

Everytime

[sturdy glen]

we did like 3 runs

[past mesa]

Almost as if

the any% time

Could have been better….

[hardy grotto]

I don’t remember our any% time jish

But yeah I assume it wasn’t good

[past mesa]

we over corrected on r2d1

To avoid the wipe we had happen

[hardy grotto]

oh I see

tragic

[candid juniper]

Hi, what's best ammo efficency guns right now?

[prime musk]

depends on what you're shooting at but generally scatter/hel gun/hel rifle

[civic wave]

As long as you hit your shots the efficiency of the gun doesn't really matter.
Aside from that, there's some guns that'll struggle with ammo more than others, like slug shotgun, the machine guns and heavy assault rifle

[candid juniper]

thanks

[past mesa]

Hel shotty sawd offf

Hel weapons in general

[rare briar]

hey is there any resource/guide for finding where logs are in gtfo? like if i am looking for CRW-EUH-3YU is there any way to know which terminal it is on besides the fact that it is in R2D2?

[tiny wyvern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/18fvxn4/gtfo_all_lore_logs_dlock_block_decipherer_steam/
Will this suit your needs?

[native sun]

This log tracker has the zone number: https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/

And these maps have lore logs highlighted in red (Hunter48RUS has a steam guide post for each rundown with these maps)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2549656173

[tiny wyvern]

thx tru

[zenith otter]

Hey! Is there a terminal code for the partial decoders? I know in the earlier versions of the game there was but I can't think of anything to put for the Partial decoder to find the zones they're in. I've seen Pdec and have tried that but it isnt working

[rare briar]

yes this is what i was looking for ty

[rare briar]

this is what i was after ty for the help

[digital mural]

use the LIST command

They You can use the QUERY command to see the zones they are in

[native sun]

If you just want to know how many are in each zone then repeating:
LIST PD ZONE_123
for each zone is probably fastest

[zenith otter]

Thank you all so so much!

[rare briar]

what counts as "beginner" for the purposes of LFG?

[digital mural]

new to the game new to the level

[fathom ice]

below 15k hours

[digital mural]

sky stfu

[fathom ice]

:3

[digital mural]

[rare briar]

i cannot tell if that is sarcasm or not.

[digital mural]

it is

[rare briar]

i have done the first 2 rundowns but i am not sure how much harder they get

so idk what counts as "beginner"

[digital mural]

have you done the E tier?

R2E1?

[rare briar]

ye

[digital mural]

ok you are not a begginer anymore

you are in the middle ground

doing the 7th hardest level in the game is a huge deal in this game

[rare briar]

thats the 7th hardest level?

[digital mural]

ye

[rare briar]

neat

[digital mural]

[rare briar]

i found it waaay easier than r2d2

[digital mural]

im fearing someone cheesed in the lobby

because E1 ISNT easier than D2 in any way

[rare briar]

nope just me an 3 of my friends

afaik we dont know any cheeses

[ocean spindle]

e1? easier than d2?

[civic wave]

it is kinda more straightforward and gives you more time to breathe than r2d2

and if you take bad loadouts into r2d2, if you need to take a break, whatever else there is

not having to deal with the fucky reactor mechanics that most people will not know about like global spawn push

[rare briar]

global spawn push?

[ocean spindle]

funky reactor spawning enemies

i dont wanna explain it i feel like im gonna be wrong lol

but from what i understand, if ur one room away from the reactor, the enemies wont spawn 2 rooms away [as they do for every other alarm in the game pretty much] but rather 3

its- i dont feel like im right but

oh well

[tardy ingot]

4th~6th arguably unless someone uses cheese like ladderfoam

[tardy ingot]

Yes
But r2d2 is like 25th hardest, its not even comparable

People who struggle on r2d2 wont have a good time doing r2e1. And they def wont find it „easy“

[rare briar]

idk we failed r2d2 probably 30 or 40 times but we got r2e1 after 5 i think

i dont think r2e1 is easy but r2d2 took us over a month

[sturdy glen]

wtf did you guys do on r2e1

[digital mural]

oh man

R4E1 sec will be fun for you

[flat oar]

you git so you gud

[hardy grotto]

r2d2 was the skill prog

[digital mural]

i heard if you smash your head into a wall, both will break eventually

[rare briar]

the reactor broke first in this case i am stubborn as hell

[flat oar]

I think r2e1 need more strategy than shooting compare to r2d2 maybe that the cause

then the surge💀

[digital mural]

surge are easy

[sturdy glen]

r2d2 shooting is not that bad

reactor shooting is never bad

[digital mural]

i find more the error alarm hard

[rare briar]

soloing the 5 scout room(s) got me almost every time

something about stealth on a timer does not agree with me

[digital mural]

yeaaaaah

you will deal with that a lot

i hope you enjoy it

[rare briar]

oh boy

well i am a lot better at it now than i was a month ago XD

[fathom ice]

i'll never get better i suck balls

</3

[digital mural]

who is balls and why are you sucking him

[fathom ice]

@granite bough

[grizzled patrol]

But can you Beat Goku tho?

[granite bough]

crazy

[upbeat epoch]

do you guys got any good tips or guides to using the biotracker?

[flat oar]

Dont use it with machine gun

[frail heart]

dont ping as soon as you can when fighting an alarm wait a bit until you can ping most of the wave

call out scouts

ping scouts

[past mesa]

Well

It depends what your goal
Is

With bio

The long short of it

[flat oar]

Use it with fast time to kill weapon.
in main or special weapon at least one weapon should be fast reload.
When do alarm focus to shoot just the leak enemy and let your team do the rest. maybe this is enough

[past mesa]

Ehhh

Tbh in good teams you just don’t get to shoot

High value weapons like scatter or sniper are probs your best bet

[flat oar]

Its can still use in modded haha

[frail heart]

bio is pretty much just focussing on keeping pings up and pinging every chance you get

[past mesa]

Modded modded modded omg I love modded

it is so hard

Almost as hard I get when thinking about modded

[frail heart]

me too

[urban oriole]

information is key

specially when u gotta stealth infection fog shadows

[grand bone]

Anyone know the fix to the black hole glitch?

The one where a black dot slowly expands then goes away

[past mesa]

hit o

you can see for a bit

while you wait for it to go away

[digital mural]

It lasts a couple minutes

Dw too much about it

[mossy aurora]

Tonmai balls

[flat oar]

not again

[short ice]

This is caused by the problem of game rendering, which can be solved by mod.

[neon gust]

Tjoma balls

[modest delta]

simple question does the difficulty of levels increase by letter or by rundown? like are all the a1's about the same or is r2a1 harder than r1d1

[urban oriole]

letter

rundowns are level packs

[modest delta]

ty

[grizzled widget]

if you want to be more specific, its the further both down and right the level is.

[digital mural]

A easy
E hard

[grizzled widget]

D1 way easier than D4

[digital mural]

But overall the rundown from easiest to hardest is
1 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 7 > 4 > 5 > 8

[grizzled widget]

C3/C4 probably harder than D1

[digital mural]

They follow the same A easy E hardest
But as Frostty said, there is exceptions sometimes

[grizzled widget]

nah, i'd say the 3/4s are pretty standard.

[digital mural]

R4C3 harder than R4D1 real

[grizzled widget]

like, some B4s would be on par with the easier d1s

its a scale

[digital mural]

I wouldnt go as far as that

[grizzled widget]

r1d1 might as well be a c-tier

[past mesa]

level scale doesn’t actually exist in any meaningful way besides chargers are c tier enemies

[tardy ingot]

Not rly tbh
Its at best loosely associated

especially if you consider that level tiers are based on mains and not with optionals

[topaz anvil]

3 is the hardest ||to stay awake in||

[tardy ingot]

Nah
decent A1, A2 and A3
B1
B2 is fine
C1 is bleh
D1 is goated

[topaz anvil]

I sentence you to forever broccoli no candy

[digital mural]

I didnt know 3 is the same as 4 and 5

[tardy ingot]

I actually rly like broccoli and dont like sweet stuff that much

[prime musk]

wait you get to not have to deal with infectious fog in r5b1 if you run secondary before overload?

wiki makes it seem like it?

[prime musk]

also are there maps for the keyspawns in r5c2 (i checked the steam guide but didn't see any)

[past mesa]

But you can’t open secondary and overload unless you do overload first

[prime musk]

wiki has great wording of that requirement, saying doing secondary after overload is recommended

oh well doesn't really matter r5b1 kinda sucks regardless

[crystal blaze]

You just said R1 is the hardest

[fathom ice]

he's not wrong

[prime musk]

jish you were correct
i one cycled code 5 (with far terminal) just now and then immediately died when cleaning up wave 6 but it's so doable i was just bad

[tiny wyvern]

It's the bait rundown that introduces the idea of:

--Frequent Checkpoints (R1A1 has one... the next one is in R6A1)
--Optional zones often contain lots of loot, so you should do them

[crystal blaze]

And then there's C1, my favorite chokepoint

[tiny wyvern]

It either kills everyone bcs they can't kill things (Suboptimal weaponry or just bad planning) or just learn to sit still

Then R2D2 comes around and throws all that out the window

[crystal blaze]

You just gotta use melee only, it makes you invincible

[urban oriole]

i always die in extraction, never before finishing reactor

[tardy ingot]

Not to my knowledge

[manic socket]

so, Can you guys suggest me some loadouts ?

my main loadout is :
main : DMR
special : High Caliber Pistol
Tool : burst sentry
Melee : spear

this loadout is just too good when you have some space/time to aim but It's kinda not efficent enough for (very) short distance

especially with the DMR, the zoom is just too much and I don't like hip firing it since it has low ammo (even though I have decent aim)

[urban oriole]

if you keep running the DMR, use a shotgun for your special ( not choke mod )

even the heavy assault rifle can work sometimes when tap firing

[manic socket]

I use DMR for small sleepers and the high caliber for the giants

on the other hand, other weapons feel like they don't have enough firepower

[urban oriole]

most of them require you to use them right, shotguns are more powerful DMRs at close range

[tardy ingot]

spear aside honestly a very solid loadout
guns are basically the "not best, but good" tier and burst sentry is usually safest pick

spear tho, not good

DMR is "low" on ammo, but realistically it doesnt rly matter
If you want smth to work for closer distances, shotgun and combat shotguns are great for that on the special side, or just pick hel revo which is easier to work with up close than dmr

[tardy ingot]

use high cal for smalls too
its gets more kills per ammo refill on smalls than dmr does anyway, so its not a waste

[manic socket]

I'm an "go for all-efficency" guy and believe it or not, I'm the one who gets the least ammo among the squad (I play with my friends)

[manic socket]

yeah when I'm in a pickle I use the high caliber for smalls too

[manic socket]

why is spear bad tho ? (I generally use the spear for scouts)

[manic socket]

what kind of shotgun would you recommend ?

assault ?

sawed off ?

or something else ?

[urban oriole]

well its more of 2 choices
the shotgun and combat shotgun, scatter is not something i wish to talk about ( too op ) and choke is already not a good choice

i thought we're talking about keeping the DMR lol

cuz am talking about special choices

[manic socket]

nah I'm open on changing the main too, if it's similar to DMR it'd be ok

[tardy ingot]

efficiency is a pretty overrated stat in this game

But if aiming for efficiency, main weapons dont rly give you much room there unless you take penetration into account (dmr being the 2nd lowest efficiency on strikers at 7.63 vs the highest (but very unrealistic 11.84 from stuff like DTR and so on)

Real efficient guns in general are combat shotgun (vs most things, can 1 shot smalls for massive 22,5 kills/refill), any hel weapon that isnt hel auto pistol (or sentry lol)

[urban oriole]

you'd be doing an entirely different loadout in that case tbh

[tardy ingot]

slow movement
bad dmg breakpoint (needs headshots on smalls even tho it charges just as fast as hammer, also worse stagger dmg)

hammer/knife just stand out way more, spear is at best an awful crutch for beginners

[silent delta]

we need sniper for scouts

[manic socket]

that's what I'm afraid of but it is what it is

[urban oriole]

in other words you can be efficient just by aiming good lmao

[urban oriole]

thing is, you dont have to change the DMR

[ocean spindle]

the bottom line being dmr is fine high cal is fine ksmdkms

[urban oriole]

its a fine weapon if you work with it

[manic socket]

I mean I both try to pick efficent guns and aim good

[tardy ingot]

hel revo is probably most similar to dmr and also "better"

but dmr is completely fine unless you want smth better close range (which hel revo does)

shotguns arent rly similar if you want smth good/better. Sawed off is insane, but plays differently obviously

[urban oriole]

all weapons are basically equally as efficient when used well, besides obvious exceptions

[prime musk]

if you run burst sentry i highly recommend trying the combat shotgun over the pump shotgun, it has much better syngergy with the sentry imo

[urban oriole]

honestly i can see what you mean and yeah it would prob feel better to use

[tardy ingot]

in general unless you pick sniper and shoot smalls with it you will be doing fine efficiency wise

scattergun (kek op weapon) is a anti boss/giant gun, being the most efficient for it by far
but if you get 2 or even 3 kills per shot you are gonna be more efficient than even high caliber pistol on smalls (which is like straight decent overall)

[prime musk]

even if they don't, the much more efficient kills of bigs probably makes up for it when comparing with high cal

[tardy ingot]

peak efficiency is rly just "penetration gun (aka hel weapons not called hel auto pistol) or combat shotgun (scatter when bigs/bosses+)

[manic socket]

to be specific, I have completed the whole R1 and R2 'till D1 (5 generators mission)

but the thing is our scan guy's a little slow and I can't just shoot randomly into fog

[urban oriole]

use bio instead of them then lmao

[tardy ingot]

fog repellers

or that

[prime musk]

sawed off

[urban oriole]

slug shotgun my beloved

[tardy ingot]

but tbh man, your loadout is perfectly fine unless you wanna shift your job heavily (which would only rly come up in R2E1 or like later R4 missions)

so swap around if you wanna test stuff, but dont worry if you dont

[manic socket]

hmm

I mean the thing is it is perfectly fine when there's a corridor ahead of me

but if I'm just out in the open

[tardy ingot]

high cal

goes brr

[manic socket]

I kinda start choking with the DMR

[tardy ingot]

bodyshot city

[manic socket]

lol

I try to save my high cal for giants

[urban oriole]

i wanna use high cal more, but sometimes not 1 shotting bc of range is pain

[tardy ingot]

go for high cal first when somewhat close
you get more ammo effectively for kills with it (and your ammo is filled up quicker so you wanna use it more (% wise)

[tardy ingot]

dont

[manic socket]

💀

[tardy ingot]

thats only rly vs chargers

high cal is decent vs giants, but its rly an all rounder you use against whatever you see

[prime musk]

high cal gets 2.5 giant kills against bigs at peak efficiency in active combat
this isn't very good efficiency wise

[tardy ingot]

its also not bad ...

[manic socket]

you were talking about the hel revolver, would you call it strong ?

[tardy ingot]

unless you spec into a giant killer zed...

ffs

[urban oriole]

being 8 meters away from chargers is really that scary and dangerous

[tardy ingot]

its a top 3 main yes

[manic socket]

I mean besides penetration, Is its damage high ?

[tardy ingot]

even without pen its roughly as good as dmr

[prime musk]

i mean yeah but every team reasonably has 1 player with a giant killer weapon that can take care of them if team sticks together

[manic socket]

maybe I can switch to hell revolver and a shotgun ?

[tardy ingot]

more ammo than dmr
slightly higher dmg (effectively barely matters)
same kills scenarios unless you fight shooters (where dmr 1 shots on head)
less ammo/mag (8 instead of 12)
technically faster reload if both reload cancel by a bit

and well mega broken pen

[urban oriole]

the most all rounder loadout

u should be good on ur own with it

[tardy ingot]

yesnt

but it also just doesnt rly matter unless they have like 2 and are shooting giants (or a sniper who they steal headshots from, but tbh. Sniper lol)

[urban oriole]

i will say tho, you really need to try out all guns
you'll also slowly change how you feel towards certain guns

you'll eventually find your comfort zone

even if its not the "meta" loadout or anything top tier, if it works it works

[tardy ingot]

if you are interested in guns ratings and all id recommend

1. Rayalots reddit post about it (on the gtfo subreddit)
2. Sleeper Podcast videos (multiple different ones)

1st is more for maxing out stuff while 2nd is aimed at average to high gameplay, but they still massively overlap anyhow

try everything for fun tho!

[manic socket]

tbh my team kinda suck ass 💀

one guy has DMR that he doesn't even use and the thermal sniper

other guy has Sub(i don't remember which) + revolver (the biotracker guy)

one guy has PDW + Assault Shotgun

💀

[tardy ingot]

ah yes (friend?) teammates who dont shoot
always lovely

[manic socket]

lmao

[tardy ingot]

R2D2 will be rough with that team potentially

[manic socket]

they literally deplete our ammo 💀

[prime musk]

i was wrong please use the high cal against the giants

[manic socket]

it is

💀

[manic socket]

lmao

[tardy ingot]

always trust in beginner parties having the wackiest shit

you know zed, the funniest thing is my mind just going

"theyd probably clap with sawed off hel rifle"

lol

it just switches the ranged guns around and gives max value

[manic socket]

I have actually have watched/listened 2 eps of the Sleeper podcast

main and special tierlist vids

[topaz anvil]

Sleeper podcast
Discord misinformation

[manic socket]

I have been using my loadout since R1A1

[prime musk]

mb

[tardy ingot]

its a fine loadout
high cal is great for beginners especially

[urban oriole]

at some point i got good enough that if i gulp all ammo and tool i'll be fine without my team for most part

[tardy ingot]

i remember playing with a friend

[prime musk]

idt so
no waveclear
because begginer hitting pen is just rng

[topaz anvil]

smg short rifle 😍

[tardy ingot]

who just never shot
and I didnt realize until the 3rd rundown where we duod

and I had to solo shoot stuff

[manic socket]

I was like "this gun's powerfull damn" (after trying ofc lol)

and I have been using it with the DMR ever since

[urban oriole]

it is powerful

[manic socket]

the thing is, they just use too much ammo

[plain snow]

tell them to shoot less

[manic socket]

I tell them

like all the time

[tardy ingot]

tell them to take bodyshot guns

[plain snow]

for most levels and zones you can generally just melee clear until you hit an alarm, and even if you don't want to take the time to do so usually ammo is enough, are you guys picking upi everything you can?

[manic socket]

ah I forgot to mention, one of them took MG later on 💀

[tardy ingot]

1. DMR (good, but needs aim and appearantly he doesnt use it either) - precision rifle, unless hes headshot king just dont. If they need the thermal (or say that they do) force them off so they can learn to stealth without. If they want to kill scouts and be helpful, hel rifle it is

2. sub? If its an auto, oof (they mostly just all not good) - revo (make them pick high cal)

3. pdw is eh, same for dude 1 on Precision rifle but its also a main so - id guess you mean combat shotgun which would be fine

[manic socket]

they literally don't melee and just shoot

they only melee when we are still in stealth

[urban oriole]

i like pdw in levels where i bring hel rifle

i wont shoot often at that point so i can use utility

[tardy ingot]

this is honestly why I love this game

you can shoot up most shit but also stealth a ton depending on your pref (usually)

[urban oriole]

you can also take stealth or shooting on ur own pace

[tardy ingot]

ya

[manic socket]

I see, I'm the one who generally takes out scouts actually (if it's a melee kill)

[manic socket]

otherwise he gets like a golden retriever and shoots at the scout

[tardy ingot]

spear 💀 (its ok, but honestly learning hammer should be more fun and better ngl)

[urban oriole]

if spearing for 30 mins beats rhe level as mucu as running around with a hammer, then hell yeah

[plain snow]

what level are you guys struggling on tho

[manic socket]

R2D1 💀

[plain snow]

ah

[manic socket]

please kill me lmao

[urban oriole]

i will point out again, only time i use spear is when high ping or any sort of lag that i cant do shit to begin with

[tardy ingot]

R2D1 is very much about knowing how to play the game on non perma crouch manner (pulling enemies from when they in fog)
how to use fog repellers
how to place sentries for alarms

and which path to take

[plain snow]

welcome to trifecta r2c2, r2d1, r2d2
and a fatality finisher r2e1

[urban oriole]

idk when i said this first time

[tardy ingot]

honestly id prefer hammer for that, you dont need aim

[plain snow]

[urban oriole]

if it works it works

[urban oriole]

isnt all of this after threshhold

or is it another rundown

i cant keep track

[tardy ingot]

wat

[prime musk]

threshold is r3b1

[plain snow]

it's the 3 levels that every single new team struggles the most on when they start the game

[tardy ingot]

oh the level name

I was like what threshhold

[urban oriole]

okay then nvm

[manic socket]

bro they literally couldn't complete R2C1 💀

then I got mad at them for being dumb ahh and solo'ed it myself

then they got mad at me for finishing it myself 💀

[urban oriole]

a level i never beaten for some reason and i left it at 56% heat

[tardy ingot]

R3B1

[urban oriole]

i just never came back to it

[plain snow]

sometimes you gotta take a different approach on levels

[prime musk]

with or without bots because without is kinda insane without the cheesy tricks (compared to anything else you have cleared)

[urban oriole]

i cant tell if this is a group not scheduling properly moment or just the pain of finding dedicared plauers

[plain snow]

when I started the game I didn't know about difficulty too much of rundowns, my team just pushed from r1 A to E and so on

my first r2d2 clear was with omega subpar guns

[tardy ingot]

og r2 with shotguns was peak ngl

[manic socket]

yo btw I actually realized that you are that one speedrunner I have been watching on yt lately 💀

[plain snow]

yet probably one of my most beloved clears

[tardy ingot]

(not rly but certainly is funny compared to nowadays hel rifle gaming)

[tardy ingot]

[manic socket]

lmao what a pleasant surprise

[urban oriole]

very cool person!!!

[tardy ingot]

chaos is often very fun (not the level lol)

[urban oriole]

[manic socket]

XD

[urban oriole]

what about the person ( if you even know them )

[prime musk]

i think my first r2d2 clear was with sniper and 2 machineguns needless to say it was a rough clear

[tardy ingot]

inter smh (im kiddin)

[urban oriole]

idk what this means

[tardy ingot]

you watch other game speedruns or just gtfo btw?

[plain snow]

me and my team were running smgs, assr, snipers

[urban oriole]

snipers W

[manic socket]

I was watching GTFO stuff (like Rundown guides etc.) and yt started to recommend me GTFO speedruns (generally your vids lol)

I have been watching your speedruns for like 3 days now

[urban oriole]

i went from watching scaler to EVA

[plain snow]

same tho I still watch scaler more than Eva

sry eva

but it is what it is

[tardy ingot]

tbf unless you are coming upon the E tier runs (tru/chill/jish and ray) about 90+% of them are mine

[tardy ingot]

scaler does do far better editing (and actually uploads since my internet is currently fuckin killin me)

[urban oriole]

lul

if i had internet i'd stream to twitch rather than discord

until then idk why i dont upload on yt and record normally

[plain snow]

I generally don't speedrun that much in any games so I don't watch it that much either

[tardy ingot]

id want to do more speeds, pacifist runs and upload videos if I could

tho tbf im very busy until january now

[plain snow]

and I like long form content

at least the ones that have more commentary

[tardy ingot]

you might be happy when (if) I upload the pacifist crusade

[urban oriole]

should i highly anticipate future uploads

[plain snow]

r1 to r8

all pacificst

[tardy ingot]

it rly just depends on if feel motivated enough (with internet) during next year while I work on my thesis

[tardy ingot]

kinda yep

[plain snow]

69h video

[tardy ingot]

it would just be explaining strats, showing clips and what the issues and stuff are

[urban oriole]

i like that kind of stuff c:

[tardy ingot]

about 15+ levels are doable no kiting/glitches for sure

the rest the idea is to not kite and use as little glitch related stuff as necessary

[plain snow]

how are you supposed to keep up with alarms

[tardy ingot]

running to next alarm
foam floor, foam door

[urban oriole]

will you cfoam every level

[manic socket]

I don't have img perms (yes, I have just realized that smh 💀 )

yesterday I was watching your R8C1 WR speedrun

[tardy ingot]

or if glitch, doorbug

[urban oriole]

lol

use shove!!

[tardy ingot]

nobody but mods/admins have or smth like that

[tardy ingot]

ya

[plain snow]

I read that as shovel

[urban oriole]

this is truly a R6C1 stealth alarm moment

[plain snow]

where my shovel at

[manic socket]

tbh I was just watching your R1A1 speedrun (before asking recommendations for my loadout) and I was like "hmm, this guy's name and pfp look kinda familiar" 💀

then I realized

[urban oriole]

xD

[manic socket]

XD

[urban oriole]

it be like that sometimes

[manic socket]

fr

[tardy ingot]

nah just weird coincidence

[prime musk]

i genuinely wonder how to do r2e1 even with doorbug
ig kite everything into sideroom and then doorbug to trap for enemy cap? because there is no way shadow zones are doable if enemies are actively chasing you

[manic socket]

lmao

[tardy ingot]

door bug first alarm only door

stand in spawn -> spawn cap

then you kite blood door into a room you door bug -> stealth rest

[urban oriole]

R7C3!!

[manic socket]

so anyway

should I switch the spear or ?

[urban oriole]

yes

[tardy ingot]

if kiting wasnt banned for the challenge this is just free lol

[tardy ingot]

ya

[manic socket]

with sledgehammer ?

[tardy ingot]

spear is a handicap

try out the rest

[prime musk]

makes sense

[urban oriole]

what is the plan on paper for R7C3

[tardy ingot]

theres only 1 level as of right now that I am not 100% sure how to pacifist even with glitches, but we do know of smth that isnt 100% confirmed yet

[urban oriole]

hmm

i think i will ask about the elephant in the room
what will u do to ||kraken|| fights?

[manic socket]

I have only tried the knife and you know what ? I freaking love it

I was just butchering up those waves in R2C2

but idk if the sledgehammer's better

[urban oriole]

knife is fine up to somepoint

[tardy ingot]

||you can skip 2 and 3rd is the currently unconfirmed thing||

[urban oriole]

sledgecan more consistently deal with basically every enemy

[tardy ingot]

since kiting is banned -> stealth into door bug

[urban oriole]

its sometimes less ideal for sleeping smol enemies, but hammer is better in many other scenarios

[urban oriole]

i am reallt curious on how that would look out, and how other levels will ^^

[tardy ingot]

technically is
but knife is very viable unless your aim is giants (or you want most reliable scout kills (which both are hammer)

[urban oriole]

hmm

[manic socket]

hammer it is then

[tardy ingot]

the idea is to abuse glitches as late as possible so its not just "stealth and door bug 24/7" and no glitches if kiting isnt necessary

R6D1 might be such a stupid way to avoid the "issue"

[plain snow]

hammer is just good with no real downsides

it basically does everything without being crippled at anything

[manic socket]

it'll take a while to get used to it since I have been using the spear for just too long

[plain snow]

the only thing that cna be better is if you have a scenario with a lot of smalls and knife can just shred

[urban oriole]

can you elaborate on why it might be a stupid way to avoid the "issue"?

[urban oriole]

connor paradise

[tardy ingot]

no as its not confirmed as of now and intended to be a funny secret for the vid (it rly wont be of use for normal runs)

[plain snow]

it's better to get used early than late

well better late than never

[manic socket]

yeah

[plain snow]

once I got used to hammer after spear I never touched spear again

[urban oriole]

just so you know i have no ides what youre talking about but i will wait regardless to see for myswlf

[manic socket]

I should try to get used to hammer then, because spear's movement speed actually bothers me

[tardy ingot]

||well the idea is to not have to fight it, but you need to have it die anyway lol||

[plain snow]

yea

[prime musk]

learn hammer because once you get hooked on knife there is no going back

[plain snow]

like I'd say

even bat is better than spear

but I'm just biased against movement crippling weapons

[urban oriole]

ohh hmmmm

[manic socket]

scouts don't get alarmed by spear btw (or I couldn't alarm them)

like I want the to stop

[tardy ingot]

it is lol

[urban oriole]

will there be any checkpoint shenanigans? like is there cp related bugs

[manic socket]

so I hit somewhere random

[urban oriole]

bc spear hits infront of you and not the floor, which covers less area over all

[manic socket]

hmm, makes sense

[tardy ingot]

🤐 (but tbh man i rly dont know yet, its still research ish)

[urban oriole]

it literallt pokes rather than swinging

[tardy ingot]

uuh what

[urban oriole]

i see

[manic socket]

soft alarm thing

to stop scouts

[tardy ingot]

dont hit the ground o.O

thats a hard trigger

you just sprint tap

[manic socket]

I saw that on a vid tho

like if you can't move

but if you are covered

they just hit a nearby wall or something

[tardy ingot]

if you hit smth in a 7m radius shit will just insta wake up

(as in wall/ground etc)

[manic socket]

damn 💀

[ocean spindle]

misinfo times :D u got baited

[tardy ingot]

there do be a full stealth guide cough cough

[manic socket]

💀

I'm kinda just eyeballin' everything

maybe it's time that I read those guides and such

[ocean spindle]

just b careful with spoilin urself if u look at some enemy guide or something

[fathom ice]

watch eva guide

[manic socket]

I should lol

[urban oriole]

you cant do that and make up things

[manic socket]

I didn't made the bat thing tho

I really saw that on a vid

lemme see if I can find it 💀

[urban oriole]

yeah not that

bat is just silly

[manic socket]

💀

[urban oriole]

i really think its inoffensivr

since it can take down scouts and giants

allthough am not sure if bat can take down scout without the occiput

[manic socket]

idk

[urban oriole]

what really makes it silly is that bats tend to solo giants with the bat

[manic socket]

what

[urban oriole]

they will break limbe and stagger the crap out of a giant until they're low health

sometimes*

[manic socket]

same thing with spears

[ocean spindle]

nuh

[urban oriole]

bat charges faster and actually staggers

[ocean spindle]

it need occi hit

[urban oriole]

spear is eh

[urban oriole]

sad

[ocean spindle]

spear is great for soloing bigs tho but that niche appliance does not make it worth it

cuz when u do need to solo giants

this is a 4 player game

[manic socket]

me when there's a female giant 💀 (I will run out of limbs/miss and die miserably)

[ocean spindle]

just hit it nonstop its the easiest enemy to melee

it shoots very slowly

and it doesnt have a melee

so u can just, bully it

[manic socket]

but spear has a long ahh charge time 💀

[tardy ingot]

they are free anyway, litteraly 0 danger

also with spear (or mostly any weapon) you just go for head after an occi hit

[manic socket]

don't mind me asking but what's an occi hit ?

[urban oriole]

it is, but once i learned to kite and baits limbs and hit the back i wouldnt take spear to kill giants outside of idk R7C3 lol

[manic socket]

limb ?

[tardy ingot]

head from behind

[manic socket]

oh

[urban oriole]

its the part on the back of ur head

so we refer to the back of sleepers head as such

[manic socket]

I see

[ocean spindle]

occiput in spanish its so funny
occipucio

[urban oriole]

wai is it funny

[ocean spindle]

i i i literally wrote it

cube it is right there

[urban oriole]

i know

am not blind

but it sounds like a normal word to me

[ocean spindle]

:[

[urban oriole]

el dorado

[ocean spindle]

el dado

[urban oriole]

el do

[manic socket]

anyways thanks for everything, I'm off to try the sledgehammer now

[ocean spindle]

:D

[manic socket]

also after my finals I'll watch some stealth guides 💀

[urban oriole]

good luck prisoner

good

[manic socket]

I mean I watched one actually

but just the basics

cycle and stuff

anyways I'm off, cya!

[ocean spindle]

buhbyee

[stiff hearth]

Occipicio in PT-BR
But I literally never saw anyone say that word

[ocean spindle]

occipicio

omg

10/10

[stiff hearth]

Where do enemies spawn in the last error alarm of R6D4?

[fathom ice]

everywhere

its a surge

pmuch

[sturdy glen]

its from elevator

[fathom ice]

?

[hardy grotto]

if it was from everywhere youd get spawns in front of you when going to extract or in front of the person grabbing cell

[fathom ice]

yeah fair

my bad

[primal arrow]

anyone know how to fix the bug when you try to give packs to teammates / sentries, it will say give it to yourself? (tried closing mods, restart game, restart pc )

halp ;-;

[civic wave]

it sounds like you enabled the "Separate Use Keybinds" option which gives you an interact button for yourself and one for your team

so youll want to check your settings and disable that, then you can use the same key for both

[primal arrow]

thank you thank you

[tawny herald]

hey, do yall have any idea if/when GTFO's multiplayer servers are getting shut down? I'm just getting back into it after a few years and I'm trying to convince some friends to get it, but I've read all this stuff abt it being abandonded

also accidentally put this in the wrong chat, sry

[tardy ingot]

Theres no real „gtfo servers“ since the game works peer to peer which runs over generic steam servers

So whenever steam shuts down

[urban oriole]

its joever

[tawny herald]

ok good, ty

[silk radish]

It’s ‘abandoned’ in the sense that there are no more content updates planned and the devs are working on another game right now

Aside from maybe a couple of bug fixes, don’t expect any updates to the game

[finite oracle]

is there a mod of somesort that allows me to play the original rundowns/older version of the game?

[ocean spindle]

something to go look for in #hc-modded

[finite oracle]

ok

[civic wave]

there are videos on youtube for it

doesn't require you to install mods but your friends will need to install the same version of the game to play with you

[finite oracle]

alright

also was there only 1rundown available before alts became a thing?

[digital mural]

Technically 6

Rundown 1 - 6

But only one at the time

[neon gust]

hes gonna be shocked to see how different this one room is from the alt version

[finite oracle]

and which room is that

[digital mural]

Room 3026153759

[finite oracle]

i cant tell if you are shitposting or this is some sort of room id

[tiny wyvern]

Someone on the steam forums is complaining about obs problems
...Should I ping one of the streamers and ask for help?

[digital mural]

Can You post what he says here

[tiny wyvern]

i got some issue that while im stream with obs, the map is normally on my screen but blur in game capture scene, you guy can see this in this one
somebody can help mee fix that please?

There's a drive link to his photos

steam://openurl_external/https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fdrive%2Ffolders%2F1I49J3hqPIgtQKnNPv-KBYQqhT4OUVsOj%3Fusp%3Dsharing

Essentially his obs capture is just black in the center of the map screen

[digital mural]

What the fuck

[sturdy glen]

oh

this happens to jish

I dont think theyve looked into it tho

I dont get the issue so idk

[digital mural]

its only the map right?

not in actual gameplay

if its only the map then eh

why bother with it really

[neon gust]

we are shitposting

the alt vs og rundowns not that crazy different

aside from gun balancing and bugs

[civic wave]

so that's what it is

i was wondering what fucked up settings they had in game

[past mesa]

Not my issue

Some weird obs thing

[tiny wyvern]

any idea on how to fix it

[past mesa]

Probs set up obs correctly

[neon gust]

captain obvious over here

[past mesa]

Hey I mean

like

We probs both set something up incorrect

Probs has something to do with how it is capturing the window

But this is like no duh

[topaz anvil]

Record on phone camera instead

[past mesa]

^ would fix the issue

[digital mural]

2010 style

[topaz anvil]

Unregistered hypercam 2

Bro wtf the world just started shitting on me

0 to 100 torrential downpour in seconds

[digital mural]

remember 2025 is a wtf year

the last wtf year was 2020

:)

[ocean spindle]

yummy

[digital mural]

next year will be a great year for everyone

be ready to get shitted on

[ocean spindle]

ill just die the 31

easy way out

[digital mural]

nuh uh

not until we make a carnita asada together

[ocean spindle]

:[ but also :]

i bring
tortilla

[digital mural]

[topaz anvil]

Back to 0 no rain hours

[supple tangle]

yo does anyone know if gtfo can run on a MacBook Pro m2?

tryna run some with my friends and one of them has a mac

Tryna make sure before we cop

[alpine mural]

you cant run GTFO on mac

as far as im aware

[ocean spindle]

by pure being Mac no, but if it has a windows partition...

let me see which one was that

2022- should beeee... fine? I mean not great but fine for most levels i think?
i played with a mac air from like 2014 and i had 6 fps so i imagine the 8 years mustve done something to it

its just hard to really know

specially for the partition thats needed

can always try and refund in case of not being able to- or use geforce now

[supple tangle]

gotchu, how does GeForce now work?

[digital mural]

Basically cloud gaming

You chose a Game and a cloud server runs the game for you

Your computer just shows You the image

[supple tangle]

ah i see I’ll try that out. thank you 🙏

[urban oriole]

yortilla!!!

[flat oar]

Whisky Game Porting Toolkit supported GTFO

[prime musk]

i am i need of emotional support

i just lost my r5c2 solo due to missing scout kill in extraction zone

[urban oriole]

[low radish]

[urban oriole]

you got it, Zed

[prime musk]

actually im reviewing my death
how long after hearing a gunshot does a scouts tentacles retract

[fallen kite]

Like

Frames

Probably

[urban oriole]

somewhere between 0.1 and 0.2 seconds

wait

[fallen kite]

Tis tight

[urban oriole]

thats how long the tentacles retract

its more like 0.5 seconds

only reason you can hammer a scout after touching its feelers when close enough

[urban oriole]

pretend this is zoomer scout numbers lul

[fallen kite]

Yeah but if the scout hears a gunshot i dont think its tentacles matter

It’ll jus

Scream

like instantly

[prime musk]

im trying to figure out if mom screaming or my gunshot woke the scout

[fallen kite]

Did you wake mom then shoot scout?

[urban oriole]

youre using replay reviewer, right?

[prime musk]

i was shooting 1 of the scouts during door opening

[fallen kite]

Ah right

[prime musk]

and the mom and scout woke

because i missed my first shot (skill issue) and hit the second one

[fallen kite]

It wouldve been ur gunshot then

[prime musk]

it feels like the mom close range aggrod on scout kill and screamed though

[fallen kite]

Doesnt really make a difference

Dont miss the ahot nezt time

[prime musk]

it does because it either means my second shot was too late or that it wasn't

[fathom ice]

zed how are u doing thunderdome

[lucid orchid]

any tips for R8D2, secondary. Terminal command FORCE_VENTILATION_EXTREME . It has IX alarm that makes diffuclt while fighting with nigtmare thingys. and tank

[urban oriole]

do 2nd most difficult alarm

no snatchers(?) and no tanks

guys confirm me plz, only the hardest alarm has snatchers right?

[fallen kite]

Foam and mine big door in the second room, foam and mine small door in alarm room. Try permafoam small door for as long as possible after first team scans using nades and launcher l. Bring pen weapons to deal with the gigantic waves and make sure you have adequate boss kill weapons to kill snatchers and tanks quickly.

[fathom ice]

just do class 7

if u need a clear

[fallen kite]

Or be a bitch

[fathom ice]

much easier

[fallen kite]

And do class 7

[fathom ice]

there are barely any fog

[urban oriole]

being a bitch is less stressful, surprisingly

[prime musk]

giant kite 😔

[fallen kite]

Womp womp

😔

[prime musk]

im afraid to inform you it's all kiting except secondary and 3 alarms of main

[urban oriole]

dont you ever love kiting

[fallen kite]

Inb4 4 hour clear

[prime musk]

hey i died at 4:04

[fallen kite]

Jesus christ its real

[urban oriole]

._.

[prime musk]

i spent a lot of time i didn't have to because i was looking for consumables

[fallen kite]

Doing secondary solo properly is still v impressive

Wp

[prime musk]

realistically if things go slightly better i also don't have to spend forever looking for shit because i won't need it

[prime musk]

ty

[lucid orchid]

Nah gonna for hard one.

[lucid orchid]

thx let me try

[urban oriole]

good luck

[fallen kite]

And try not to be too far away from your teammates when fighting the waves so that the enemies dont spread out a lot

[fathom ice]

nickle being nice challenge impossible

[upbeat epoch]

I was wondering when do bots use ammo pack on players? Like what are the conditions.

[past mesa]

That the ammo will fit

And your close by I think

That all they need

And probs not doing an action

[upbeat epoch]

I was wondering about that cause they kept filling up my ammo when my scattergun was at 75%

Which I’m pretty sure loses an ammo

[past mesa]

A bullet probs it is like mostly that it can fill up

so 25% on both even tho special guns get 30% or something

[ocean spindle]

that ur under 80, thats it

on both guns

same for hp infection and tool

well- infection that ur over 20 rather

[fathom ice]

for scatter u need to be 63 iirc

to not lose anything

[viscid zinc]

On missions with permanent alarms like R2C2, will the next pack of enemies spawn if you just keep stunlocking the last one?

[prime musk]

scatter gets 5.something
most of the time you're fine taking at 68% (9 shots reserve)
but 63 is always fine

[ocean spindle]

yes- the spawn cap of enemies is around 25 i believe, so if u get staggering the 3 of the wave it will fill up until u have the 25 around
then it will stop spawning enemies but its... hard to keep so many enemies alive at once in a situation like that

actually, if u noticed that went u run away u get 6 or more enemies in a single group is cause u got 2 3 or more waves stacked that u just ran away from, so they grouped up

[viscid zinc]

Thanks

[stiff hearth]

Today I was thinking

The chargers in the R5C1 shadow striker error is intended or a bug?

[ocean spindle]

theres chargers?

[civic wave]

stuck enemy from one of the uplinks perhaps?

[stiff hearth]

yes?

Always when i do secondary, theres chargers after sometime

in the error alarm

[upbeat epoch]

Do doors lose their ability to completely block sounds after being interacted with?

[ocean spindle]

no, if u close it back up again it should be the exact same

and if its damaged it should be the same too

[tough lichen]

Hi, does anyone know if i also need to tag all sleepers that got summoned by scout n sec door for the biotrack achievement o-o?

[digital mural]

Yes

Every
Single
Enemy

[tough lichen]

Ah, okayy tyy

[last ore]

Is the controller stuff still bugged per reddit posts 11 months ago? Just picked up the game and my friend I wanna play it with refuses to play Mouse and Keyboard so I'm doing some controller tests to hopefully streamline his experience

[digital mural]

you need to rebind every single controller input

some inputs dont have a key

so you gotta do it yourself

this game has 0 controller support

[native sun]

Scouts go invulnerable after being alerted after a randomized delay between 0.25 and 0.5 seconds (uniform distribution). The feelers take 1s to retract before alerting the scout (so touching feelers gives you between 1.25 and 1.5 seconds).

Side note specifically for shooting through doors though. Sounds 'linger' on the player for a little. So if you shoot as door is opening while outside the room and then jump into the room, it can count as a gunshot inside the room. You want to stay outside while door is opening for a little bit after shooting.

[last ore]

I've got steam input enabled and it feels alright, especially using some community configs. Definitely might need to rebind some stuff but other than no stick acceleration, it seems fine

it doesn't seem like 0 controller support, definitely wish there were glyphs but not the end of the world

[digital mural]

by the way

[past mesa]

There is also terminal issues

[digital mural]

keyboard is mandatory

so make sure he has one close to him

[last ore]

yeah I'm aware keyboard is mandatory for terminals and tbh I feel like me or our other friend will be the terminal people in most situations

he has a keyboard near him if need be tho

[past mesa]

Probs

[digital mural]

you cant really be sure about that 100% in GTFO

things can go south really quickly

[past mesa]

But it does force the split

[last ore]

he usually plays on his laptop hooked up to his tv so he has a wireless mouse and keyboard at the ready if needed

I'll let him know

[digital mural]

tv gaming

based

[last ore]

except that he can't play mouse and keyboard cause he's on a couch lmao

limits what we can all play together to stuff having controller support

[digital mural]

keyboard on one leg and a support and mouse in the other

[last ore]

he also never got good at keyboard controls for FPS games so

[past mesa]

It comes pretty quickly

[digital mural]

Good luck for your friend

[past mesa]

but hope you enjoy the game

[last ore]

his FPS skills are all built out of black ops on the xbox

he's actually really solid with a controller

but black ops also has controller support

I can't controller aim for fucking shit

I'll let him know all this ahead of time though

[digital mural]

me when aim assist

[last ore]

I need aim assist or I die

[past mesa]

Aim assist is required for most controller games mainly because the input isn’t the best method

[last ore]

yeah definitely stiff without it

[viral spruce]

Is the lore terminal in R5B2 Z317 bugged?

I cant get the log for it

[ocean spindle]

bugged in what sense

does it just say the log doesnt exist

[viral spruce]

doesn't let me read it even if its 100% correct

im certain

unless im blind

[hard nexus]

It has an 8 and 0 or O

[digital mural]

make sure the 0 its not an 8 and viceversa

[ocean spindle]

seeing the log names it seems extremely easy to mistype

[hard nexus]

Which are easy to confuse in this game

[ocean spindle]

its like 008

and 80k

[viral spruce]

7JR-T7U-780 right?

im reading it from the log tracker

[ocean spindle]

7JR-T7U-78O uh seems corrent

[viral spruce]

not from the terminal

ive been sitting on the thing for like 5 mins

[digital mural]

its O

[ocean spindle]

mightve been an extra space or something that just didnt let u

[viral spruce]

im loosing my mind

[digital mural]

its an O not a 0

[ocean spindle]

its O

[viral spruce]

...

bruh

[ocean spindle]

good eye pablo

:3

[viral spruce]

that explains lot

thanks bro

[digital mural]

i had to literally put my face on the screen

LOL

[ocean spindle]

lmao

well but the 0 ingame has a line ksmdkm

[viral spruce]

anyway

i just wiped bcs i was tiping on discord

lol

[ocean spindle]

damn

[viral spruce]

rip

[hard nexus]

The skin

[prime musk]

this sucks because then i think i lost to long range aggro
0.5 seconds after i fired the last shot the scout was still extending feelers, and won't begin retracting until nearly half a second later
which means it was mom scream which means my scout kill aggrod mom with long/short range (i think long range because the idiot i am had flashlight on)

oh well

reactor sucks stragglers feel like complete rng and determine entire reactor run pretty much

[native sun]

Enemies can't scream for the first 1.5 seconds after they wake up, so you still had minimum 1.75 seconds after killing the first scout

[prime musk]

huh

i can't explain it then ill dm clip later

[crystal blaze]

Actually that’s apparently how GTFO does 0’s compared to O’s, they put a slash through the center

I fucked up a wave during R2D2 because of that

[flat oar]

Guys help me! How to not throw the game

[grizzled patrol]

Throwing is Not a Playstyle. Its a Lifestyle. You cannot Just Not throw

[past mesa]

Continue throwing

It is more fun

[frail heart]

Jish is the best at it listen to them

[urban oriole]

chaos can confirm probably

[tiny hare]

Is there a way to turn the green screen thing(when you aim) off? (Yes, I don't play a lot of fps game.)

[urban oriole]

what is "the green screen thing"

[low radish]

The water visor bug?

Maybe?

[tiny hare]

Like, some guns when you right click, a screen pop up? I think it help aim(as some have like circle in the middle)

[urban oriole]

you mean

the iron sights/scope?

[tiny hare]

But that make it hard to see for me who's not used to the game

[low radish]

That's your scope

Like in tech man veruta

[urban oriole]

depending on the weapon, thats the point lmao

[tiny hare]

Ok, is there a way to not turn on the scope

[low radish]

It's what you aim with

[urban oriole]

you tunnel vision to get more accuracy

[low radish]

Nope

It's a function of the game

Some weapons have it

[tiny hare]

So i have to just avoid gun with them

[urban oriole]

thats the wrong way to look at it

[low radish]

Veruta, airbalist, slug have it for sure

Short rifle too I think

But they're not bad guns

It's there to help

For example the machine guns have them but they're good

It doesn't really hinder the weapon

[urban oriole]

again, you tunnel vision to get more accuracy

[low radish]

Saying this as a techman veruta fan

[urban oriole]

some scopes are silly and have like scratches effect

[tardy ingot]

Lol

[low radish]

SHH I LOVE ALL THE BAD GUNS

[tardy ingot]

Listing those guns and saying that is certainly smth :^ )

[urban oriole]

dont say anything

[low radish]

I make everything work 😭

Even the shelling nano

My beloved

[urban oriole]

dont invalidate them

[tardy ingot]

everything works

E2 has been cleared with 4 AR, 4 Sniper, 4 bio and 4 spear

[low radish]

Yeah

[tardy ingot]

they still arent good

[urban oriole]

i dont like it when you put it that way either

[low radish]

I Play with whateve- ...

;-;

[urban oriole]

eva no, not everyone uses same guns

and not all guns are made equal yes

but still

[low radish]

I love my veruta and pistol

[urban oriole]

you cant just be meanie like that

[tardy ingot]

veruta is nice for beginners tho and while its definetly not a great weapon its good for simple holding down value (combat outvalues it hard tho)

[urban oriole]

i still cant use combat shotgun as well as veruta

[low radish]

I never used combat

[urban oriole]

there is better options, but not for everyone

[low radish]

I use Buckland

[tardy ingot]

Im not mean
Im realistic

i dont mind people playing with them, but ill give better options if asked
Just dont call them good

[urban oriole]

also especially for newbies
they should experiment with all guns

[low radish]

I am the best with whatever I like

[tardy ingot]

You mean shotgun

[low radish]

Yes

[tardy ingot]

Theres like 3-4 bucklands

[urban oriole]

like hel rev might be best main weapon but for me its one of the least good to use

[tardy ingot]

Mostly 4 fun and seeing them
But yes

[urban oriole]

not just for fun

i genuinely was and still unable to use some guns that are considered "good"

[low radish]

GRRR shelling nano IS good!!!!

/hJ

[urban oriole]

whether cuz they're not for me, or i prefer other things that can be used to be equally as good

[tardy ingot]

from the bottom

[urban oriole]

i dont even use shit guns like shelling

[low radish]

😭

[urban oriole]

am sorry

[low radish]

I love my shelling....

Why are my favorite guns bad

[urban oriole]

bad for others, not you

[low radish]

Veruta, shelling, chokemod

[urban oriole]

i will say

most levels really dont have infinite chargers or surges

or many mini bosses and giants

[low radish]

I remember when I used shelling on R4D2

Pain

[urban oriole]

sometimes its not worth the suffering lmao

[tiny hare]

Ok, so i should try them and see which one i like. Should I just stick to it, or is it better to be good with at least 1 of each type?( I use play with friends, some of them already good at sniper, etc.)

[tardy ingot]

No well
Still bad for them

fun doesnt necessarily correlate to good

[urban oriole]

try them all, and i cant deny that u should stick to objectively good guns until you find ur comfort between alright and best guns

[tiny hare]

((We are stuck at R1C1 and I think its my fault 🥲))

[tardy ingot]

Decent, fine, slightly subpar

[urban oriole]

i never used fun as a factor here

[low radish]

Use veruta lol

[urban oriole]

and if u ask me
its fun to kill things comfortably and a lot

[low radish]

I stick to whatever guns I like

[urban oriole]

its one of the levels where specific loadouts are usually a must

[tardy ingot]

What are you struggling on?

Dying cuz ammo runs out?
Getting overrun?

[tardy ingot]

for beginners it helps

But its super easy to clear eith whatever

[tiny hare]

Too much mobs, they overrun yes.

[urban oriole]

just to emphasis, i cant do that with a hel revolver or a combat shotgun as examples

[grizzled patrol]

Yeah there is. Try Out the Clean scopes Mod. It Just removes the glass Part leaving only the reticle

[tiny hare]

Usually because sentry run out and we aren't killing them fast enough

[urban oriole]

at least get the standard tool setup xP

[tardy ingot]

What tools is your team running?

Where are you defending?

What special guns is your team running?

[tardy ingot]

Even beginners have cleared with mines and foam sometimes

but ye bio + 3 good sentries helps lots

[tiny hare]

Thank you! I will look that up.

[urban oriole]

well the best way to put this and the clearing E2 with snipers and whatever is "just because you can, doesnt mean you should"

its also hard to sometimes argue when things can be subjective, and i am somewhat arguing on the ground that there is a balance between objectively good guns and subjectively comfortable ones

[tiny hare]

We try 4 sentry.

We already try to have 1 running back to put in codes. And 3 pushing forward for resurce, but we probably aren't fast enough so we still ran out of sentry.

We look up some reddit post and are going to try 2 burst sentry and 1 sniper sentry tonight.

[urban oriole]

thats what i call standard loadout for R1C1

[tardy ingot]

For tools:
1 bio tracker (ping the enemiesj
3 sentries (probably 3 burst sentries, but only put down 2 unless you can see giants spawn)
1 sniper and 2 burst works too tho

Defend on the bridge, near the hole. It puts you closer to ressources (same room, but also far away ones) and is a better holding spot
-> someone can run to out code in once the actual combat phase is over, they dont have to leave before that

Take good waveclear and a giant clear weapon if you want easier odds. This means:

hel rifle: penetration body shot gun. Kills smalls super well and giants too
Burst cannon: anti giant gun. 2 bodyshot bursts kill a normal one, 3 a hybrid

[tiny hare]

Is bio scan tool necessary? We think its useless bc every mob will run toward us anyway

[tardy ingot]

There is
A shotgun can have more value for a player than a burst cannon cuz they struggle with 1 and are comfortable with another

Comfort is important, but doesnt make a gun objectively better

[tardy ingot]

Its the best tool in the game

Actually knowing when enemies are dead, where they are at all times etc

Is invaluable

[urban oriole]

just to be clear yes it doesnt make it objectively better, and for the record never said it does

[urban oriole]

+bonus efficiency for sniper sentry
++ you dont benefit much from having 1 extra sentry given there is lots of tool

[tardy ingot]

Usually when people say things can be subjective is when they try and tell me „bullpup/sniper/shotgun sentry/spear are actually good“