#gtfo-related-questions

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fathom ice
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well u mine wave 1 and shoot flyers

frozen estuary
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If I can't do a Brazil skip in this lifetime, why even play this game

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Y'know

fathom ice
digital mural
past mesa
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watch the brazil sPEEDRUN

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mines are bad

sleek drift
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ok r2 isnt that bad so far

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we cleared a-b2 so far with only b1 taking us more then 1 try

silent delta
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does he know?

sleek drift
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i know and am very excited to get railed by e1

crystal blaze
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If you don’t get railed by d2 first

sleek drift
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we'll see

frozen estuary
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I'm only curious why they didn't use mines on 1st wave to save ammo

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They're much more efficient that sentry at that point

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That's from eva's vid

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Didn't watch the other one

hardy grotto
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Watch the speedrun instead it’s way better

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the original clear was very rough

frail heart
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No cheese mines is ass

spare leaf
frozen estuary
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And I feel like mines could still be more useful

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Unless getting through to the door is illegal

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In which case 2 sent is understandable

hardy grotto
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In speeds you aren’t allowed to go out of bounds yea

frail heart
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^

frozen estuary
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I wasn't sure whether that classified as an OOB

frozen estuary
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What you can do instead is ignore it completely and just continue the mission

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It makes it much harder since not only do you get an alarm of charges for the rest of the mission, but you also don't get rid of Pablo

urban oriole
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i like E2 "brazil skip" instead of R7E1 brazil "skip" ArmlessBlob

frozen estuary
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One makes the level harder, another one makes it easier :P

urban oriole
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i think both are equally as fun

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albeit am bad at R7E1 that i dont think am ready to do fun activities such as making the level harder

native sun
frozen estuary
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That's what I was testing for

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Searching for some good mine placement

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There's a decent double-mine

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But I'm not exactly sure at what point it's more wasteful than sentry

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I think 1 mine should kill at least like 4-5 enemies to be more efficient 🤔

native sun
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Without bio sniper sentry kills 32, with bio it kills 45.

You need to kill more than 5.6ish enemies per mine to beat bio symbiosis sniper sentry.

frozen estuary
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Burst sentry*

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Mb

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Should've specified

native sun
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Burst is similar numbers, ~42 if it is getting two-bursts

frozen estuary
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Yeah, Sniper has better kill count

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Huh?

frozen estuary
native sun
frozen estuary
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You're counting for precision multi?

native sun
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Burst sentry can kill strikers with 2 bursts (6 bullets)

frozen estuary
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Each bullet is like 2dmg iirc

native sun
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256 / 6 = 42.67

frozen estuary
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So at least 4 out of 6 should be precision

native sun
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No, two are

frozen estuary
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Am I miscounting

native sun
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two headshots = 12.06 damage
4 body = 8.04 damage

frozen estuary
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Oh, wait

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It's 3x

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Not 2x

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Right

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Ok, fair

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So the goal would be at least 6 enemies with each mine

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  • it allows me to stay inside and spawn camp fliers and what not
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Might be doable

past mesa
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LOL

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If you have a set up for 6 enemies per mine without door

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Please drop it on chat

frozen estuary
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I'll test a bit more and maybe send it here if it works out

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Not at PC rn

sturdy glen
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what tf are we cooking here

frail heart
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The tech

frozen estuary
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Anyone got exact wave numbers?

tiny wyvern
fathom ice
tiny wyvern
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Or smth else?

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Jish might know them, but I've rarely seen much conversations surrounding it
So if no one knows it'll take some time to dig up

frozen estuary
frozen estuary
fathom ice
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oh

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nvm

tiny wyvern
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The wiki page lists the available spawns, but not the numbers cause not that useful for casuals
Maybe speedrun wiki would know

frozen estuary
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There's a speedrun wiki? :o

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Link?

fathom ice
frozen estuary
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shutup

fathom ice
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it's like

frozen estuary
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Calculator was invented for a reason >:(

sturdy glen
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would need to look at blocks

fathom ice
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20 + 2 + 20 + 20 + 2

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but that's just wave one iirc

native sun
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There's a discord server which has like, maps

native sun
frozen estuary
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Oh, I got the serv

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Never looked there lol

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I don't think it's actually 20, it feels like there's less

fathom ice
frozen estuary
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I can

fathom ice
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just pause and count every wave individually

frozen estuary
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But I'm not about to count every wave

fathom ice
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:3

frozen estuary
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Bruh

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If I was paid to do that - maybe :P

sturdy glen
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kill enemies tells you how many enemies it kills

frozen estuary
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Well. for now my setup consistently leaves 5 enemies alive in normal waves

frozen estuary
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I forgot I could do that for the whole wave

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13

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So ig it's an 8 enemy mine

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Yeah, it seems like there's 13 enemies in a wave usually

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Wave as in waves of enemies during a single reactor code sequence

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Is there a better naming convention for that?

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Reactor waves / enemy waves is an uncomfortable way to word it

native sun
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Wave 1:
12 points Striker (Fast) (+ Shooters)
3 points Hybrid
24 points Striker (Fast) (+ Shooters)
6 points Hybrid

frozen estuary
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How many points for each enemy tho? Cuz it's 13 smalls according to kill command output and 2 hybrids according to my eyes

native sun
# frozen estuary Is there a better naming convention for that?

Technically it is "Reactor High Intensity Test 1" which then has a few waves, but no one is going to call it that.

So wave 1 -> code 1 -> wave 2 -> code 2 is what we actually say. Probably just call the actual waves of enemies that spawn sub-waves or something.

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Probably 12 points just gets rounding errored to 13 enemies

frozen estuary
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Lmao

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How is that a rounding error

native sun
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Hybrids probably 2 points, so 3 points spawn 2 and 6 points spawns 3

sturdy glen
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isnt it spawning weaklings for 0.75

frozen estuary
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That would be 9.75 points

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Way off

frozen estuary
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Or is there like an implicit +1 point

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Which would actually explain 13 smalls and 2 hybrids

native sun
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Probably spawns until it runs out of points

native sun
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(so no)

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Unless you meant special

sturdy glen
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nope, thought it was a diff population

native sun
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Very easy to write code that spawns 13 from 12 points

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And this isn't even rounding error

frozen estuary
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Rounding error would be completely wild

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That's why I was confused

native sun
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You could have <= and still get 13 enemies just because you're adding/subtracting floats repeatedly

frozen estuary
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It's obv you can write all sorts of exceptions to make it spawn that extra enemy

native sun
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0.1 + 0.1 != 0.2 moment

frozen estuary
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it's not even remotely close to the amount of operations done in the actual game

native sun
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All you need is a comparison though

frozen estuary
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Unless the system is somehow made in the worst way possible

native sun
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0.0000000000000000000000001 > 0 after all

frozen estuary
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Oh, you mean that

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🤔

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Yeah

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Fair

frozen estuary
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In which case rounding error wouldn't be an issue

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Or better yet, use int for points and just use higher point values

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It will still calculate faster than floats

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And no rounding error will ever occur

native sun
frozen estuary
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Yeah?

native sun
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Are you really iterating through every possible cost every time

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Tsk tsk tsk

frozen estuary
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Random enemy -> check if enough cost -> reroll if not / subtract if yes

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And then just stop when there is not enough points for the lowest cost enemy

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Smth like that probably

native sun
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Oopsie, we changed our points and chances a month later so now there is a 0.05 cost enemy that spawns 1% of the time, suddenly our code randomly hangs for seconds at a time

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Because you made a bad reroll loop

frozen estuary
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You can just put railguards around that. Limit rerolls and what not

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Still better than using floats for enemy points

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Or just wait for cost to go < 0

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That's fine

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But like...

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Why floats

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:P

native sun
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So we can finetune things a month later without having to rescale 6 values every time

frozen estuary
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https://imgur.com/a/0pZmnGq - this it the mine setup btw. It works semi-consistently but it often leaves ghost enemies. Idk if it's due to where I stand or it's exactly the same

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Either way it usually kills like 6-8 enemies for smaller waves

frozen estuary
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You can fine-tune ints if you just use a higher value as a base

native sun
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I agree, but the point is that you have to be pretty careful how you do it, have to carry around your base appropriately etc. etc.

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And devs don't write just one system that they try to make as perfect as possible, they're writing hundreds

frozen estuary
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But I see no reasonable explanation of how ints would be more complicated to manage

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Let's say you really want to fine-tune enemy costs

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And you want it to be countable to a thousandth

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Make base cost of "1" as 10,000

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And you won't ever have to change that

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Any change lower than 1/10,000th is arguably irrelevant

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No precision error will ever occur

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Do you have numbers for 3rd wave btw?

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4 mines is enough to clear pretty much the whole 1st reactor wave

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(gotta kill 2 hybrids and a couple smalls potentially)

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2nd wave is solo'ed by Hel Gun

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Now I'm wondering of what I can do for 3rd

native sun
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Me sees a pattern

frozen estuary
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I just need a writeup on which enemies spawn in what order and how many

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Thought it would be easier to ask

native sun
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Are you going to test the setup afterwards anyways?

frozen estuary
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Probably

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If you don't have the info on hand

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Then I can just kill command and record it somewhere manually

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Is there a way to cancel Reactor_SetIdle?

frozen estuary
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Are you sure this is right? 🤔

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I'm getting:

# Wave 1
Sub-waves:
1. 13 smalls
2. 2 hybrid
3. 26 smalls
4. 7 smalls
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From the kill command

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Can CConsole somehow mess up reactor waves by any chance?

native sun
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Assumed the last thing with 6 points was doing the force special thing to spawn hybrids, perhaps it does not

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idr if there is hybrids at the end

frozen estuary
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I mean

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There isn't on my screen lol

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The other numbers more or less add up

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Except for the 3rd wave having 2 more smalls than points instead of 1 more

native sun
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It is indeed not doing the filter thing, so there's 6 random points at the end

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Very odd

frozen estuary
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# Wave 3
Sub-waves:
1. 13 smalls
2. 2 hybrid
3. 7 flyers
4. 13 smalls
5. 13 flyers
6. 1 tank
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Check this one asw mb

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See if that disaligns too

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Is "disaligns" not a word or am I just grammatically incompetent

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Nope, discord just doesn't know that word xd

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I'll try to restart exped to see if maybe checkpoints caused any issues

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Only the 3rd sub-wave (1st wave) count was off. The 4th wave still has 7 smalls

native sun
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Wave 3
12 points Striker (Fast) (+ Shooters)
3 points Hybrid
6 points Flyers
12 points Striker (Fast) (+ Hybrids)
12 points Flyers
1 point Tank

frozen estuary
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This one seems correct

frozen estuary
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This is more or less my strat for the 1st wave.

  • 1 door hit on the 1st sub-wave
  • kill hybrids and double-mine
  • 3-4 hits on the 3rd sub-wave and clean up whatever is left
  • mine for the 4th sub-wave and it will probably kill at least 6-8 smalls
    I'm too tired to play properly so I kinda butchered the last step: https://imgur.com/a/fHhIr5K
frozen estuary
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Just wanted to find an efficient mine deplyer usage

fathom ice
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ammo save or smth

frozen estuary
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Yeah

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More than likely

fathom ice
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idk man idm both double sentry or mines

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u have ammo anw

frozen estuary
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Mines are more efficient here

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Although ofc it doesn't work for speedruns bcs OOB

fathom ice
frozen estuary
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And I also need to think about 3rd wave setup cuz it's practically just 2 mines if it goes as it does rn

fathom ice
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and u have enough tool psure

frozen estuary
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Mines work for 3rd wave too

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And you get to spawn-camp the flyers

fathom ice
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yea but ure likely to lose door

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on wave 1 anw

frozen estuary
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Yes

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You don't need door for wave 3

fathom ice
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so

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again why bother

fathom ice
frozen estuary
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Yeah

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I mean, in an ideal scenario

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Usually it's 6-8

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Sometimes it's even more

fathom ice
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not like the rest can lick u

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inappropriate

frozen estuary
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That's why you need door for wave 1

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There's a big sub-wave there

fathom ice
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what about wave 3

frozen estuary
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Just 6-8 won't cut it

frozen estuary
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Only small sub-waves

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Hybrids

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And flyers

fathom ice
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how much small are we talking

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3 or 4 inches

frozen estuary
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# Wave 3
Sub-waves:
1. 13 smalls
2. 2 hybrid
3. 7 flyers
4. 13 smalls
5. 13 flyers
6. 1 tank
fathom ice
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i mean u still have 5-7 smalls that can lick u

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if u mine

frozen estuary
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And you don't have to stand inside all the time lol

fathom ice
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yea but like

frozen estuary
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The only issue is that the mine is somewhat precise. You can place it too low and the laser won't show

fathom ice
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noby u can just

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hit 80% of ur shots and ur fine

frozen estuary
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You can also play without tool, just play better

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Bruh

fathom ice
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exactly??

frozen estuary
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It's not a reason to not try to min-max

fathom ice
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so why bothering w mines

fathom ice
frozen estuary
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Why bother playing the game then?

frozen estuary
fathom ice
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idk i dont

frozen estuary
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Crazy

fathom ice
frozen estuary
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Being nerd is trendy, wdym!

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So many nerds become milioners

fathom ice
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not rn..

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and yet ure not one of them 😞

frozen estuary
frozen estuary
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That's it

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Tonight I'm dragging you into my lobby

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We're gonna test the strats

frozen estuary
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4

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Not that much actually

fathom ice
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i have 6...

frozen estuary
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Who carried you?

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Confess

fathom ice
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me

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ppl make me go code hunt every game I'm sad

tardy ingot
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tbh r7e1 feels so boring nowadays Sad

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(Not like it was ever rly exciting)

fathom ice
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first time is fun ngl

frozen estuary
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It's always boring for that 1 person who babysits pablo lmao

fathom ice
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pablo crazy respawn rooms teleport and stuff

frozen estuary
tardy ingot
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Brazil skip would be exciting if the beginning wasnt snooze (and pablo sitting less of a chore)

frozen estuary
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Tbf, the WR didn't look like it had anything like that

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Since pablo babysitter was also defending charger waves

tardy ingot
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WR is cracked tbf

frozen estuary
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And the first alarm was insta-pulled

frozen estuary
tardy ingot
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thats not gonna be a casual run

frozen estuary
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Fair enough

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Although I wouldn't call Brazil skip casual anyway :P

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But I still feel like my strat could be more efficient for it

fathom ice
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is there a lot of brazil skips?

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or it's still like in single digits

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like clears

frozen estuary
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WR said there were like 3 clears in history?

tardy ingot
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i think theres like 3 or 4 teams that have done it?

frozen estuary
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The video description iirc

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That's why

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@fathom ice

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We're testing the strat

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Today

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Tonight*

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To prepare for the 5th clear

fathom ice
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no

frozen estuary
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Yes

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Disagreement is not an option

fathom ice
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I'll think about it

frozen estuary
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Unless you're 'botta get laid

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We're doing it

fathom ice
fathom ice
frozen estuary
fathom ice
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oh

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sb asked me to teach how to use logs for speeds

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other then that

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ntg ig

frozen estuary
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Seeds?

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Or wdym

fathom ice
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speedruns

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logs

tardy ingot
fathom ice
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noby

fathom ice
tardy ingot
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ah

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LOL

fathom ice
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I asked them to give me logs

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so i can upload

frozen estuary
tardy ingot
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game logs

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commonly used for speedruns in gtfo

frozen estuary
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For different seeds?

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I think I need to check the speedrun guide

fathom ice
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noby

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ur like

frozen estuary
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Idr what they are about

fathom ice
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idk

frozen estuary
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?

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Ah

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I see

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For verification

frozen estuary
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Go on

tardy ingot
frozen estuary
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That's what I was thinking about

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Someone made a tool for reading them iirc

fathom ice
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yeah

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wait fr

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i just use notepad++

frozen estuary
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I wanted to make my own version that doesn't have "download python" in the setup guide and would instead be a single executable that would output all the important info right away

fathom ice
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make it

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I'll give u a cookie

frozen estuary
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I have other things I need to do dpthsSob

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Maybe by the end of this year I'll get to it

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We'll see

tardy ingot
frozen estuary
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Maybe I'll secretly make it my grad project and kill 2 sleepers with 1 bullet so to say

tardy ingot
frozen estuary
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I don't have notepad

tardy ingot
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You should?

frozen estuary
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Oh no

tardy ingot
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isnt it a base thing on pc

frozen estuary
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I intentionally deleted it

tardy ingot
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kek

frozen estuary
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I use vim (btw)

tardy ingot
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We recommend notepad++ anyway as it allows cleaner useage

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but anything like that can work

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you just read the file

frozen estuary
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Hold on, lemme take a look at how it's written

tardy ingot
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you just search up specific terms in the file

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Such as

frozen estuary
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I know how to search

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I just wanna see how it looks

tardy ingot
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ri:
zone zone
area:

Etc etc

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0 item is still the funniest

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Because i think only like 3 people understand how to read it

frozen estuary
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I honestly don't even need to make a program

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I can just grep it once

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And then set up a keymap to repeat it

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But it would also be interesting to make smth like that

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That's guite a lot of stuff to parse

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Does shooting pablo actually help reaggro better?

past mesa
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Yes

hoary mason
frozen estuary
hoary mason
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@tardy ingot you know that my laptop broke and I was without any decent pc for like 2 months. TiredTalulah

tardy ingot
fathom ice
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after

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so never

fathom ice
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:3

past mesa
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So if someone wants to walk through Pablo los without getting them unstuck the stuck player shoots them

frozen estuary
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What about player los?

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When they look at pablo they can take the aggro too, right?

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And in both cases it should work I assume

past mesa
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they can if he doesn’t currently have los on the targeted player

tardy ingot
frozen estuary
# fathom ice ^

Sky, why are you linking something that doesn't answer my guestion bruh

fathom ice
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i thought it does

frozen estuary
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Read it again

fathom ice
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I'm walking outside okay my brain is freezing

past mesa
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It kinda does but noby players can take los

frozen estuary
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Heat it up

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Shove your head in a microwave. trust

past mesa
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But los isn’t enough to take aggro from the guy always

frozen estuary
tardy ingot
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oh btw jish

if vanilla
What do you think would be the most fun 3-5 level race?

frozen estuary
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Cuz I was asking about when a player looks at pablo (even if Pablo looks away)

tardy ingot
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Enemies dont „look away“

frozen estuary
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Oh

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So it's basically the same thing then?

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🤔

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That would explain it

past mesa
frozen estuary
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Yeah, i get that

past mesa
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unless blue drops los or purple takes targeting

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then you understand the entire thing

frozen estuary
past mesa
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It should be never minus some funny things with sentry, door boundary and los through walls

fathom ice
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sentry pmom aggro

past mesa
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Or if someone becomes and invalid target

fathom ice
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❤️

frozen estuary
fathom ice
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and not in uni

frozen estuary
past mesa
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Los through walls generally means the dude like sees you through geometry that looks solid but isn’t

fathom ice
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i've seen u ask questions at like 6 am

frozen estuary
fathom ice
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oh

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fine

frozen estuary
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Now I should probably go to sleep

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But I want to eat smth first

fathom ice
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me? 🥺

spark wolf
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like when a giant wants the dude thats 5 zones away and u just keep shooting the giant while he does not care

frozen estuary
tardy ingot
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giant goes noom

spark wolf
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also wtf is that thing where tank will look at a teammate but back up at sprint speed into another player

fathom ice
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aggro change?

fathom ice
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they just turn slowly

past mesa
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It is so funny

spark wolf
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horror game

past mesa
errant dome
spark wolf
frozen estuary
past mesa
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So I hit min distance or room barrier for charge then someone changes aggro then the guy runs into them

spark wolf
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like we had a giant on R3C1 glitch through a closed sec door

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because it meleed very close to it

errant dome
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melee ignoring collision makes for the wonkiest interaction sometimes

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bbcs especially xd

spark wolf
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enemy melee is op for door breaks

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but they can only door break if the door is already damaged

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if you get a charger to melee you next to a door you've tapped once

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the door almost insta breaks

errant dome
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wonder if u can use that in a speedrun

spark wolf
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have to be like solo to be worth the difference

errant dome
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true

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would only save u like a few seconds anyways

frozen estuary
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inb4 devs suddenly decide to add R9 and introduce reinforced doors

past mesa
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If you have more skillful lobbies more levels open up

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Some level need to have forced seeds

fathom ice
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c2 is a bit boring tho ngl

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or u can skip smth?

past mesa
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r6c2 would just be main

fathom ice
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oh

past mesa
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it is like a 12 min level

fathom ice
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ye main is pretty fast

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ig c1 main only too then?

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but it's like no fun then

past mesa
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R8c1?

fathom ice
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yea

past mesa
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Overload is faster potentially

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And secondary is lame

fathom ice
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mm

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i'd like r3d in 2nd route ngl

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instead of r6c1 mb

past mesa
fathom ice
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r3d1 instead of r6c1

past mesa
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Both are on the list

fathom ice
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yea but

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oh

past mesa
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R6c1 is one of the most ran levels has a really know run

fathom ice
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i thought u typed like 2 sequences of levels

past mesa
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Na out of order

fathom ice
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yea that's good choices then

past mesa
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My order is mostly harder levels or duo centric levels

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Because that is how we generally play race

spark wolf
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whats ur favorite race

tardy ingot
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R8C1 also feels like such a mean rng run in a race KEKW

frail heart
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1/64 for best rng 💀

fathom ice
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1/64 here we go

tardy ingot
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same for r2c2 tbh (just worse)

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rest seem good

tardy ingot
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2 double uplinks 💀

frozen estuary
frail heart
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you want all central terms so you dont have to do any team scans

frozen estuary
#

And you u can't know it in advance through logs I presume

#

True restart simulator

tardy ingot
#

yup

frozen estuary
#

Unrelated but is there a known reason for why sometimes certain supposedly guaranteed items don't spawn? I.e., I was playing r2e1 not too long ago and we got only 1 fog turbine at the start even tho there's supposed to be 2 of them, 1 in both zones

tardy ingot
#

bug goes brr

frozen estuary
#

At least wiki suggests it's guaranteed to have 1 in each blood door

frozen estuary
spare leaf
#

just out of curiosity, is there an easier way to check which levels I still need completed other than starting up the game and opening each rundown

livid stone
#

by writing it on a notepad

digital mural
#

It's called: "taking notes"

spare leaf
winged mango
past mesa
#

or roughly accustomed to order

#

like all that you can do in r1 then all you can do in r2 then you just remember where you left off

#

But unfortunately there is no real tracker

spark wolf
nocturne hill
#

wahts teh ranking for difficulty

digital mural
#

E hardest

nocturne hill
#

thank you

digital mural
#

if you want rundowns from easiest to hardest its
R1 > R3 > R2 > R6 > R7 > R5/R4 > R8

frail heart
sleek drift
#

How big is the jump in difficulty from the b missions in r2 to the c missions?

upper ginkgo
#

not that big

#

c to d is bigger imo

#

and d to e is even bigger

sleek drift
#

D2 looks tricky

upper ginkgo
#

eh it's mostly a gun skill check

sleek drift
#

I hate timed stuff, just watching the number tick down makes me stressed 😭

upper ginkgo
#

and testing for fast stealth and whatnot

#

time pressure is gonna be a common occurrence so get used to it :(

sleek drift
#

We can clear but not fast

#

Any advice for going fast?

upper ginkgo
#

uh just understand how stealth mechanics work in general

sleek drift
#

Shoot that reminds me, I still gotta watch the stealth vid lol

upper ginkgo
#

"fast" stealth is just an application of slow stealth knowledge

#

clear as a group

sleek drift
#

We do that

#

But it just feels slow

upper ginkgo
#

keep charging your hammer

#

and just walk towards the enemies

sleek drift
#

When they start pulsing you stop r

#

Or ig smack them if ur in range

upper ginkgo
#

nah you just hammer it

sleek drift
#

What if there’s like multiple of them

upper ginkgo
#

if another guy wakes up you have 3 other teammates to deal with the domino effect

sleek drift
#

Ah

upper ginkgo
#

keep hammering?

sleek drift
#

So the team should spread out?

upper ginkgo
#

mm just be in close-ish proximity to each other

sleek drift
#

K ty

upper ginkgo
#

it's not really a hard rule

sleek drift
#

👍

upper ginkgo
#

just kill as much as you can quietly before there's a scream

#

afterwards you can just shoot

sleek drift
#

How dangerous is infection btw? Ik it caps ur max hp but can’t kill you

sleek drift
upper ginkgo
#

umm not really detrimental until you reach max infect (85%)

sleek drift
#

Aight

unborn glen
#

anyone know the best B mission to grind the Controlled Response achievement?

past mesa
#

Only one forced alarm and the rest can mostly just be stealthed

unborn glen
#

yeah thats what i figured, but ive only done b missions in R1 and R2 so i thought id check

urban oriole
#

is there any challenge achievements tied to E tier missions?

flat oar
#

no booster

prime musk
#

completing rundowns and sectors

spark wolf
frozen estuary
#

You can heal over it

#

And hp will slowly go down to the "limit" that the infection sets

#

And if you're actively getting infected you can go to 100% infection (1hp effective)

#

But then it will go down to 85% if you go out in an uninfected area

#

Not too bad if you're going fast but if you're taking your time you should avoid getting infected as much as you can

halcyon coyote
#

Who knows how to get "trigger discipline" achievement? I tried it on R1A1 using only melee, but I held PDW for a few seconds without aiming or shooting, but I didn't get the ach after completing the expedition

errant dome
#

did u by chance have bots in ur team? bots shooting means u wont get the acheivment

digital mural
#

If bots shoot that counts as shooting

#

Lol

halcyon coyote
digital mural
#

You can use tools

#

Also yeah
You either go solo or go with a full team

halcyon coyote
#

Now I understand why only 0.2% has it

digital mural
#

Yeah but

#

Achivements were added not too long ago

#

Thats why they have such low %

hardy grotto
#

Not too long ago is coming up on a year

#

but in the grand scheme of the games lifetime yea

digital mural
#

Not too long ago when this game is like 5 years

#

😔

halcyon coyote
errant dome
halcyon coyote
tardy ingot
#

but that achievement is very easy tbf

#

r1a1, melee and tools is a quick 10 min adventure

halcyon coyote
tardy ingot
halcyon coyote
tardy ingot
#

you dont rly need to talk
Just let people know that your aim is the achievement via text

halcyon coyote
#

So, I will just force two more of my friends to spend 900 rubles and buy the game without telling them what exactly GTFO is about

digital mural
#

Dont worry

ocean spindle
#

:3

#

me when

#

me

#

my face when

#

teehee heehee

swift flame
#

Hey does anyone have any videos of someone doing the Pure Will achievement? I looked it up a bit and didn't find anything

swift flame
#

R8D1 with no heals and disinfection

past mesa
#

Oh yeah it isn’t that bad besides the disinfectant station

#

I think a bunch of the first clears will do it

#

They just won’t say it

civic wave
#

there isn't anything too special about the gameplay for that achievement, be very careful around the disinfectant station and don't use medipacks

swift flame
#

I see, just thought it would be good to watch a successful run before doing it

past mesa
#

You can probs just do it

#

Just try to save your health and don’t take infection

#

but that is generally how the games goes

#

It is why it isn’t the most notable achievements if you can make it to late r8 you can do this no issue

swift flame
#

Alright, thanks

noble maple
#

does completing secondary/overload give you extra cosmetics?

soft crater
#

no

noble maple
#

thanks

sleek drift
#

how good is arbalist

errant dome
#

not good

past mesa
#

Mg and automatical weapons in general just don’t have very good match ups

#

Into like anything

soft crater
#

I just use Har for fun

past mesa
#

They are fun

errant dome
# errant dome not good

veruta (the other mg) is more or less just better (but note that even that weapon is not very good)

past mesa
#

Mg has a good baby match up

#

mb

errant dome
#

its good baby clear ya, but then again if you REALLY want baby clear, hel shotgun exists xd

past mesa
#

This is probs the biggest issue with the gun

#

Hel shotty is just kinda very power crept

fathom ice
#

gun is bad because other one is better

#

we've been spoiled by good guns

digital mural
past mesa
sturdy glen
#

when one gun is a main

#

and the other is a special

#

and the main is the better one

past mesa
#

tbh sky I don’t know if we have been spoiled by good guns rather than

#

Some guns they just don’t know how to balance

sturdy glen
#

we have but this is not the case

upper ginkgo
#

mg players are playing the harder game

past mesa
#

lol

upper ginkgo
#

semi players are playing baby gtfo

fathom ice
#

difficulty multiplier

sturdy glen
#

insert hel shotgun joke

past mesa
#

I will give you my multiplier

urban oriole
#

i think autos would be okay as staggering sprat and pray guns if not for hel guns

sturdy glen
#

thats unironically a good name for it

#

it makes sense

errant dome
# fathom ice gun is bad because other one is better

tbf to the weapon its OKish at wave clear but it requires u not to unload all ur bullets to the floor or giants, and i feel like most people that end up playing mgs think they need 2 hold down left click xd

past mesa
#

Pen

#

Was a mistake

upper ginkgo
#

ngl i have mad respect for mg players now

past mesa
#

sturdy glen
#

pen was not a mistake

sturdy glen
#

pen is amazing

turbid horizon
upper ginkgo
#

i'm so autopilled

#

semi autos dont require aim

errant dome
fathom ice
past mesa
#

It doesn’t fix it

fathom ice
#

it makes it worse

past mesa
#

Hate to say

fathom ice
#

ikik

upper ginkgo
#

if anything autos are way more aim intensive

fathom ice
sturdy glen
#

not with the way bloom works in this game

upper ginkgo
#

you ever try to track a shooter head with heavy smg from 20 m away

soft crater
upper ginkgo
#

shit is so hard

sleek drift
urban oriole
upper ginkgo
#

meanwhile hel gun players just shoot in the general direction and kill like the entire wave

errant dome
upper ginkgo
#

wake up semi sheeple

#

you're the ones playing the easy game

fathom ice
#

its just funny how u mag dump a wave from mg and hel gun

#

and mg kills nothing and hel gun kills everything

upper ginkgo
#

omw to become the best mg player in na

fathom ice
#

i thought ure the best dtr player vozy

urban oriole
hardy grotto
#

youre gonna quit the gun before that day

#

but also theres not really any competition

upper ginkgo
#

fuck you you're a doubter

hardy grotto
#

im always a doubter

urban oriole
#

non believer*

hardy grotto
#

think of it as encouragement

errant dome
upper ginkgo
#

I bet you also doubt that chaos can't solo r8e2

soft crater
sturdy glen
#

nah real mg players hit the 2+2 on every enemy

hardy grotto
#

if i doubt you you'll be more inclined to do it

hardy grotto
upper ginkgo
#

get therapy beth

urban oriole
upper ginkgo
#

bully

fathom ice
urban oriole
#

R8E2 "CHAOS"

soft crater
urban oriole
#

dw i'll help him

sturdy glen
#

as long as bro still thinks the stealth is even remotely the hard part of the level

#

hes not clearing

hardy grotto
#

stealths gotta be the cakewalk honestly

#

just a little stroll through the zoo

fathom ice
#

fr

errant dome
#

is it even doable without boosters?

sturdy glen
#

no

hardy grotto
#

no

sturdy glen
#

straight up

errant dome
#

ya thought so

urban oriole
#

i mean after warm up, i got to stealth scan during my one and only short session trying

sturdy glen
#

you cannot bring enough res into the room to do class 6

hardy grotto
#

well actually chill

#

there's this little trick i found

sturdy glen
#

hear me out

hardy grotto
#

where i was able to put all the resources into 1 locker

sturdy glen
#

QOL doorbug

soft crater
sturdy glen
#

all the doors come pre bugged

#

(it makes my life smoother)

hardy grotto
#

would you even have time to put all the rss in 1 locker actually

#

surely not right

sturdy glen
#

no probably not lol

upper ginkgo
#

just smuggle a 5 use ammo from r8d2 smh

sturdy glen
#

you could get like

urban oriole
#

that sounds like a funny game mechanic you could mod in or generally program

sturdy glen
#

6 uses in a locker

hardy grotto
#

that's where the extra time in e2 qol mod comes in

sturdy glen
#

and hold 3

errant dome
sturdy glen
#

if you had like A ammo in bypass, ammo in second stealth scan room

#

and got the ammo in class 6

soft crater
#

commits ~ ammo command

hardy grotto
#

unironically if someone did it no boosters like that i would have to be impressed

#

but i still dont know if you have enough rss

urban oriole
sturdy glen
#

would still have to shoot mega good

fathom ice
#

you need near perfect rng

errant dome
#

tool would have 2 be sniper sentry right? otherwise tanks 2 scuff?

fathom ice
#

u have to shoot in potentially A, B and C

errant dome
#

or ig u could maybe mine them but idk how reliable that is

fathom ice
#

wait

#

A, B, D

#

so wasting ammo

sturdy glen
#

its sniper sentry ye

urban oriole
sturdy glen
#

for clearing class 6 ONLY foam is probably better if you roll a mine

#

but its scary

#

stabilizing from door breaks is awful

upper ginkgo
#

sniper sentry and pray all spawns go through A

sturdy glen
#

however boosters are massively more effective at buffing foam than sentry

sturdy glen
urban oriole
#

so wait, how far can you go with seeded?

sturdy glen
#

cuz sentry runs out

hardy grotto
#

SHUT UP

#

GO AWAY

fathom ice
#

xD

urban oriole
#

lmfao

upper ginkgo
#

sarahtool...

hardy grotto
#

peter really fucking fell off huh

soft crater
errant dome
urban oriole
hardy grotto
#

idk man

#

probably pretty far if its seeded

sturdy glen
#

doesnt rly help with reactor

hardy grotto
#

is reactor rlly that hard though?

sturdy glen
#

unless you seed all the enemies getting perma stuck

fathom ice
#

wave 3 beth

sturdy glen
#

youre fighting 6 million shadow giants and 3 tanks with hel rifle or hel gun and a sniper sentry

#

its gonna be fucked

hardy grotto
#

id win

urban oriole
hardy grotto
#

honestly chill i think 2nd class 6 is the worst part

#

but i imagine you just cancel it

sturdy glen
#

someone based

sturdy glen
urban oriole
#

question is

sturdy glen
#

its a fuckin solo who cares

hardy grotto
#

me

urban oriole
#

whats the minimum doorbugs required to win

sturdy glen
#

1

fathom ice
#

1

hardy grotto
#

1 but you can doorbug all the other ones for the bonus objective

upper ginkgo
#

yeah only losers watch solos to see good gunplay

hardy grotto
#

you get a fancy icon on your clear i hear

sturdy glen
#

can I get a checkpoint icon on my clear

hardy grotto
#

my fucking goat

fathom ice
urban oriole
#

which door to doorbug is it bc i cant think at midnight behind chat's sarcasm

fathom ice
#

any

urban oriole
#

just to cap spawn?

fathom ice
#

usually it's 2nd zone A to B iirc

#

that's what i saw at least

sturdy glen
#

you need to be able to clear the spawned enemies to get kraken to spawn

#

but youre doorbugging so yeah you can just do the oob at that point

urban oriole
#

cuz i imagine if you cap spawn and let nightmares spawn, its as simple as typical E2 stealth

urban oriole
#

a silly speedrun

#

am more so curious on how the OOB floor looks like bc it looks so goddamn precise and partially blind

upper ginkgo
#

brb flooding the speedrun leaderboards with lawless trio runs

urban oriole
#

whuh

sturdy glen
#

the best category

upper ginkgo
#

do not talk to me unless you have 5+ world records

sturdy glen
#

fuck

#

the russians really did ruin everything for me

hardy grotto
#

LOL

#

is lawless trio the worst category

sturdy glen
#

nah

#

4 man is worse

#

youre dragging an extra person into glitched

hardy grotto
#

true

#

but like youre just trying to see how fast you can go with a full team with all glitches

#

lawless trio is like youre trying to mimic that

#

but you dont have enough friends to do it

urban oriole
keen seal
#

not enough victims

hardy grotto
#

victims is a better word youre right

urban oriole
#

lmfao

soft crater
#

go from victim to survivor

upper ginkgo
#

idk it's kinda impressive to have 3 other people that want to run lawless

hardy grotto
#

trios is jsut the "ah fuck our 4th cant show, what do we do now?"

upper ginkgo
#

biggest wall in this game is having 3 other friends

sturdy glen
#

ok but 5 player runs clear

hardy grotto
#

for sure the most disappointing sized group in gtfo i think

sturdy glen
#

history has shown

urban oriole
#

i wish i have 3 others to play things like bo zombies easter eggs eith let alone speedrun

hardy grotto
#

5 player runs go so hard

urban oriole
#

many wishes a smol coob has

soft crater
upper ginkgo
#

I'd watch the 5th person pov for Brazil skip

sturdy glen
#

GTFO pro

urban oriole
hardy grotto
#

whats the 5th person doing

sturdy glen
#

all you need

sturdy glen
#

😂

hardy grotto
#

can we run a brazil skip with 8 people

hardy grotto
urban oriole
#

do you guys like babysitting pablo

sturdy glen
#

fuck no

hardy grotto
#

no i like playing the game

soft crater
#

chat
I need duo pablo hold. too hard

urban oriole
#

lmfao

#

i'd be able to babysit pablo if i were to text on discord half of the time

hardy grotto
#

8 person brazil skip dedicates 4 people to holding pablo

sturdy glen
#

the brazil skip trio would go hard

urban oriole
#

which is basically not playing the gake

hardy grotto
#

like theyre containing an scp

upper ginkgo
urban oriole
#

gtfo scp goes hard

hardy grotto
#

i alt tab way less these days

upper ginkgo
#

character growth 🥹

hardy grotto
#

coincidentally my gtfo playtime has also decreased drastically these days

sturdy glen
#

2 bad habits reduced

#

huge

hardy grotto
#

actually winning

upper ginkgo
#

retire already

hardy grotto
#

no

#

i need to start shooting guide

sturdy glen
#

were taking the r4e1 back

#

youre neverl eaving

hardy grotto
#

if you guys take r4e1 back you can honestly have it

#

im so over speedrunning 4 mans

#

but also ik ur ass is lying

#

u would never go back

sturdy glen
#

yeah were never touching that again lol

#

r5e1 on the other hand...

hardy grotto
#

gl

#

ok trust chat this next week

#

i will start the shooting guide

#

i know i said the last 3 weeks i would

#

but ive got a really strong feeling about this one

fathom ice
#

one week later

soft crater
fathom ice
sturdy glen
#

onemore...

hardy grotto
#

i set myself the goal of finishing it before christmas

sturdy glen
#

thats a crazy goal

fathom ice
#

so like in a month we'll have a guide

#

'maybe'

hardy grotto
#

probably

upper ginkgo
#

my p*b clear rate better skyrocket after the guide drops

hardy grotto
#

ill take no responsibility for if it nosedives

#

but if it skyrockets, it's all because of me

sturdy glen
#

sounds fair

soft crater
#

after that guide surely I'll only hit headshots with revo

sleek drift
#

imma be fr i warm up on aimlabs pre gtfo

upper ginkgo
#

idk I think it's overkill

sleek drift
#

my aim is dogshit

upper ginkgo
#

you can have "better" aim just by waiting for the correct animations

civic wave
#

honestly, just play gtfo

upper ginkgo
#

enemies stand still when they attack

civic wave
#

^^

upper ginkgo
#

you literally just pop them

sleek drift
#

yeah but its just helpful for me

upper ginkgo
#

no one is gonna go for strafing shooters

civic wave
#

my aim is awful but i get by

sleek drift
#

takes me like 5 minutes

upper ginkgo
#

cross hair placement in this game is also pretty easy I think

sleek drift
#

tbh i think it's just cuz i like doing aimlabs every day and gtfo has become a everyday occurance for me atp

fathom ice
jagged shore
#

can someone confirm or deny this
sentry noise distance is 40/20/0? i don't remember for sure

upper ginkgo
#

just shoot all 5 of them

sturdy glen
#

depends on the sentry

fathom ice
past mesa
#

shotgun sentry is just 10 then 0 or 20 then zero

#

the rest are all 30 10 0? but i could be insane

jagged shore
#

oh, whacky, alright

past mesa
#

shotgun sentry is diffrent tho

jagged shore
#

they're all 0 after 2 rooms though?

past mesa
#

it actually a viable stealth tool

#

YEah

jagged shore
#

ok, just wanted to confirm something for my brain

fathom ice
#

chat i want scripted r4e

sinful lake
#

Can people join through matchmake in already started game?

dim viper
#

The quest 3s is about 300 bucks right now. Might be cheaper over the holidays. I have not used it. It’s supposed to be a slightly downgraded version of the quest 3, which I do have. My advice is to save the way I did. Eat out less, eat cheaper. Don’t blow money on booze and other wastes. I lost some weight I wanted rid of, and half my socks have holes in them, but I got a 4080 super and a kickss vr headset to play with. 😆 Totally worth it. Game is good flat, amazing being in the game.

ocean spindle
#

does someone have the rundowns descriptions
like when u press "info"

digital mural
#

gay

ocean spindle
#

i is that the card im askin for

#

"open funny"

mental furnace
# ocean spindle does someone have the rundowns descriptions like when u press "info"

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# ocean spindle does someone have the rundowns descriptions like when u press "info"

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[STATUS] OBJECTIVE STACK REITERATION 7.0. <COLOR=RED>PROBE DEEPER.</COLOR=RED> PRISONERS TO RESUME DESCENT AND EXPLORE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.



[SUBJECT EVALUATION] ALL NEWLY AWOKEN PRISONERS SHOULD GO THROUGH <COLOR=RED>TRAINING & EVALUATION.</COLOR=RED>



[BOOSTERS] BOOSTER MODULES WILL BE DISPENSED TO PRISONERS THAT <COLOR=RED>RETRIEVE ENCASED ARTIFACTS.</COLOR=RED> OBJECTIVE STACK UPDATED.

Rundown 8

[STATUS] ERROR. OBJECTIVE STACK CORRUPTED. PRISONERS TO RETURN TO HYDROSTASIS PENDING COMMAND ORDER RESTRUCTURING.

[APPAREL] ERROR. OBJECTIVE STACK CORRUPTED. PRISONERS TO RETURN TO HYDROSTASIS PENDING COMMAND ORDER RESTRUCTURING.

[BOOSTERS] ERROR. OBJECTIVE STACK CORRUPTED. PRISONERS TO RETURN TO HYDROSTASIS PENDING COMMAND ORDER RESTRUCTURING.

[ADDENDUM] PRISONERS WILL OBEY ALL OBJECTIVE STACK UPDATES AND <COLOR=RED>IGNORE PREVI0US ORDERS</COLOR>. WARDEN PROTOC0LS ARE N0 LONGER VALID. ADDIT10NAL RES0URCES WILL BE PROVIDED TO STACK C0MPLIANT PRISONERS.
ocean spindle
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qwq omg jesus fuck ando

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thank u so much skmdkms

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_>

fathom ice
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what does skmdkms mean

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it a keysmash like a "lol" but femboy

fathom ice
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so ure a fembot

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y