gtfo-related-questions

[silent delta]

so infuriating for them to constantly survive with 1hp

[upper ginkgo]

I just instinctively switch to my main after shooting once

[native comet]

how you kill the scouts that have those tentacles that alert hordes withought trigering them?

[digital mural]

Run at him and melee it

They take like 3 seconds to wake up once You touch the feelers

[civic wave]

Need to deal enough damage to kill them in one shot (in simple terms), which can be done with melees (different melees require full charges to different parts), or a powerful enough gun

[digital mural]

Hammer and spear need charged hit to the head
Knife and bat ls full to the back of the head

Or You can shoot it

[native comet]

ahh I tried hitting it when the feelers are not out and it never worked

[digital mural]

It works

Hammer and spear is just a charged hit to the head

If You have any other melee Is full charge to the back of the head

[native comet]

ahh ok

I didn't realize the back or front mattered

[digital mural]

You do more damage in the back

And more damage if its the back of the head

[civic wave]

if you're behind an enemy you deal 2x damage to them :) game doesn't tell you that ever

[native comet]

ahh ok

thanks

[digital mural]

Both melee and guns btw

[native comet]

good to know

[graceful hollow]

Anybody there? I need help with R2D2, one person will suffice.

[digital mural]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[dusty ember]

Whats the blue bar that fills up as you are downed?

[tiny wyvern]

That's infection
Some levels have it
It caps your max health

Don't stay in fog

[dusty ember]

But I dont have any infection 😮

[tiny wyvern]

Or near the blue puffs to avoid it

Hm

[dusty ember]

I'll get a screen shot next time I see it

[tiny wyvern]

Were you doing reactor

Or something with a timer?

The bar stays even though the words change

[dusty ember]

Oh yes I am doing reactor

[ocean spindle]

gun back damage scales with angle, but the melee back damage does so too?

i guess the knife multi doesn't, but what about the normal back damage

[native sun]

Yes, they use the same formula for working out the back multi

(Aside from knife backstab multi, which is either on or off, no smooth scaling)

[reef lintel]

hi. me and my friend wanted to try getting into gtfo, but it would only be us 2 (we dont feel comfortable with randoms), is gtfo still going to be possible in the later missions with only 2 people?

[civic wave]

Every mission in the game is possible with 2 players only without glitches or exploits, though it gets very mechanically demanding
There are bots you can use to supplement the empty player spots which are adequate for a good deal of the game, if you'd like to go that route

though you would need to play around the bots a bit more

[reef lintel]

would it be easier to learn with bots, then get rid of them later on?

[neon gust]

You wont get rid of them

Just trust me on that one

[neon gust]

R7e1 with bots

🥴

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[reef lintel]

ok, so me and my friend should get it even if its just going to be us? bc we've been eyeing this game for a while now

[tardy ingot]

if you think youll like it, sure

[neon gust]

You can get the game you will get hours and hours of game but its really hard

Specially starting out

So unless you have a strategic mind you will get frustrated

[tardy ingot]

Yea
The game doesnt tell you a lot. Youll either need to be willing to test stuff and be a keen observer or check out guides (that preferably spoil as little as possible)

but imo the learning and observing part were a ton of fun

[reef lintel]

frustration is part of the fun :]

[neon gust]

You say that right now but well see

[reef lintel]

lol

thanks for helping me friends :]

[neon gust]

Its always yeah i like frustration then never touch the game again

[tardy ingot]

id rather them say frustration is part of the fun than „challenge/difficulty is“

Weve had lots of people who want the prestige of beating a difficult game but dont actually want any challenge

so they dont bother learning and try to brute force

[neon gust]

^

[tardy ingot]

Then quit and flame/blame the game

BUT
This game is definetly fun

Between being new/scared
Learning the ropes and advancing through levels
And then understanding the game well to clear it all

[reef lintel]

ok, i'll tell my friend all of this so they have a heads up

[neon gust]

Also your enjoyment will really depend on your friend too

If you play with someone whos not used to play games like this you will both kill eachother pretty quicm

[tardy ingot]

tbf theres always the chance they try out the public lobbies here and enjoy that

[reef lintel]

ok, thanks for the info yall. i have to go to sleep now, but this info will be great to tell ym friend. thx

[tardy ingot]

[wet bear]

I love gaslighting my friends and they love gaslighting me for every mistake

[spark wolf]

all the early missions are boring even for new players if they were told how to use tools

its just permafoam all the time

you dont fight any enemies during alarms

[digital mural]

permafoam R1C1 strategy when

[green bronze]

yeah can we just go booster farming in r5a3

i need 180% of cfoam portion

i hope people (hange and art) dont call me a fatass loser

[wet bear]

Just doorbug

[silent delta]

With what door

[silent delta]

You don't even need to permafoam just bring halfway decent guns and don't beef

[civic wave]

ask eva, he knows

[silent delta]

Eva where is your secret r1c1 door

[spark wolf]

SORRY MOST NOT ALL

[wet bear]

There's doors you know

[valid wing]

so before r2e1 getting revamps or updated it has 1% success rate?

[wet bear]

?

[icy cave]

It's in OG R1C1

[tiny wyvern]

wuts that

[wet bear]

Alt also have doors, they're just in beginning

[icy cave]

Ofc OG is just more conveniently placed

[wet bear]

Yeah it is

[safe cradle]

what do you mean?

It had around that in OG I think

Now, who knows

While I wasn't around at the time what I've heard is that OG having that low was a mix of "game wasn't fully understood yet" and the lack of good guns (again, NOT my words since I wasn't playing during OG R2).

I'd say R2E1 is perhaps the easiest E apart from R8E1 but noone counts R8E1 as an actual E-tier level.

[wet bear]

Also less players than now kinda

[safe cradle]

Not entirely sure... it does sure help that now it's permanently avaiable.

I'd say the actual % of actual people who do it with the intend to win it is much, much higher than 1%

Especially counting stuff like 4 players and whatnot

[errant dome]

i feel r7e1 is easier

[wet bear]

The game was really not fully understood by that time, guns dealt lower damage, guns were ass

[safe cradle]

It's a weird metric anyway since 3 guys can carry the 4th anyway

What should be counted is accounts who did individually clear

[errant dome]

even 2 can more or less carry tbh as long as the other 2 are not just missing every shot

[safe cradle]

As in, Number of players that have at least 1 clear on it, divided by the Number of players that have GTFO

[wet bear]

I remember revolver dealing kinda around 7 damage on Beta

[safe cradle]

I dont really know I feel that R7E1 demands way more stuff than R2E1

R2E1 is just surges and hybrids, there's some shadows but that's kinda it.

R7E1 you kinda need to know the strategies IMHO

[wet bear]

Og shadow giants = F1 racers

[safe cradle]

R2E1 I can totally see 4 players that know the game well and shoot well just wing it on the first try

[wet bear]

If you start from R1 now and so on, by the time you get to R7E1 it really can have easier impression on you than R2E1 in the beginning of journey

[errant dome]

well the way r7e1 is there is pretty much no way u win first try without prior knowledge (unless all 4 have alot of experience then MAYBE) i dont think that necessarily makes it harder tho. Because once u get a rough idea of what 2 do, i think executing it is much easier on r7e1 vs r2e1

[safe cradle]

"much easier"

I think the good majority of the pubs I played R2E1 with

the perhaps nearly entirety of the runs died at the first surge during the error

R7E1 with pubs I reached reactor like 3-4 times in a week of tries I think

[wet bear]

Imo first surge during error is one of the hardest parts

[errant dome]

its the straight up hardest part imo

[safe cradle]

I think it's THE hardest part, really

I dont think I ever failed after managing that

I've like 3 clears on R2E1 or something like that

[wet bear]

You can fail at last surge if you foam badly or don't save doors etc

[safe cradle]

R2E1, for example, doesn't require MUCH stealthing.

[errant dome]

also sorry if im misunderstanding smthing but i dont quite get the point ur making

[safe cradle]

If you said "easier" I'd just disagree but "much easier", in my opinion it's really exhagerated, no offense.

[errant dome]

mayhaps

also no offense taken no worries

[hardy grotto]

Knowing either level makes it really free tbh i dont see how that’s really an argument for r7e1

Personally I can solo carry an r2e1 but r7e1 has more potential for fuckups that are harder to recover from

[wet bear]

Respawn rooms pulled on R7E1 hits hard

[safe cradle]

I'd say there's a difference between knowing how surges work and where to go compared to Pablo, stealthing the cocoons, the reactor, flyiers, fog, shadows...

[hardy grotto]

I wouldn’t say it’s drastically harder than r2e1 but there’s definitely a gap

[cursive grove]

friendos, I just completed rundown 1 once every exp, is there any other thing I should do it in there? I see a number in brackets with more slots to add numbers but I don't know if its secret sectors, I read that there are not secundary obj in there but, just to make sure if im not missing anything

[digital mural]

those are optional objectives

you wont see them until rundown 4

[cursive grove]

ah ok no need to revisit untill 4

thanks my man

[digital mural]

if the bracket doesnt have a number that means there isnt an extra objective

[cursive grove]

gotcha tks

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

[somber nest]

Thanks, sorry

[digital mural]

deleting the message wasnt necesary

but yeah, you can use the technical support chat to seek help

[somber nest]

Much appreciated, thank you. I just didn't see it.

[tepid cloud]

is the game currently getting more content liek more rundowns or is this all atm?

[digital mural]

game is already finished

no more official content

[civic furnace]

No more official content but modded rundowns exist

[safe cradle]

What modifications would be required to make the game A LOT more like what newbies think stealth is?

I cant think of a better way to phrase it

[civic wave]

Uh let's see
Bigger attack hitboxes
Maybe more attack damage
Sleepers have damage reduction if they've been woken from sleep (with exceptions)

Just stuff that makes it fucked up if you wake rooms

Less tool, less ammo, no foam

[safe cradle]

I'd also say enemy animations go much faster

[civic wave]

And other stuff that leaves you with less resources

Because the new player stealth thing is "there's not enough resources, we need to stealth to save them"

[safe cradle]

I'm not capable enough to create a mod but if I would be, I'd like to do some sort of GTFO Survival Horror edition intended for solo play

[wet bear]

Just do every level no tool no ammo no medi so people stealth it

[tardy ingot]

No sprint

at all

[safe cradle]

I'd still think most people would just kite and hammer

[tardy ingot]

also make enemies wake up from walking immediatly (like sprint)

boom
Newbie stealth

[wet bear]

No sprint, make them take damage from stamina hitting cap

And make cap it around 100 so they take damage every time

(Accidentally pressing shift and doing dodge makes you take damage from enemy)

[safe cradle]

Perhaps you could exchange all scouts for zoomer scouts or something like that

[keen path]

if one enemy wakes up, the whole room wakes up. no second animation to alert the others, just immediate wake

[safe cradle]

tbh a scout wave of 12 pumped up strikers would be devastating in those conditions

[wet bear]

And also make a jammer so you can interrupt sleeper communication the fuck? And give them paigers

[wet bear]

12 potatoes scout waves hits hard in room where you can't kite em, soundbug, flash alert, death alert my beloved

[safe cradle]

Alarms would need to be drastically revised or just modified to have less enemies spawn

or just removed at that point

[wet bear]

Special forces assault inbound, sleeper tank with shotgun sentry on hands walks out of door

[tardy ingot]

So
what are the things that keep us from playing slow stealth

1. being able to shoot
2. being able to melee waves
3. being able to fast stealth since enemies waking up is slow
4. being able to fast stealth since only 1 enemy wakes up at a time

Mix some of the above things

1. less ressources
2. no sprint anymore
3. walking basically insta wakes
4. all enemies wake up immediatly upon one waking up (or just make them insta scream rly fast if woken up, works better. Also remove scream cd)

[tardy ingot]

by changing those things you dont need to change alarms

Ressources would be tightly defined for alarms. Stealth for everything else

not a good change obviously tho lol

[wet bear]

4- no cd = enemies just stand and scream at you

Get enemies screams do damage

And see urself die to screams

[safe cradle]

The idea I was going for is also to have less enemies but more dangerous

[tardy ingot]

i clearly meant general cd
Not singular enemy cd

[wet bear]

Lockout3 A1 ovl, multiple mothers+dads all rooms almost, no ammo/tool full zone, immortals in the dark etc

[tardy ingot]

youd have every enemy scream once

but it would be super fast (could even do it where they have an animation that stops attacks/mocement)

[wet bear]

I'm still waiting for upsidedown mother bomber plane flying at ceiling and dropping kids as bombs that explode upon contact

[safe cradle]

wasn't there that meme enemy that was bugged in a modded rundown

giant generator or whatever

I remember reading about it a long time ago

[wet bear]

Yeah it generates small giants that run at you and explode

It's basically a striker sitting upon flyer

[safe cradle]

The complex... has changed.

[wet bear]

Also their dead bodies bugs and explode too

While being throwed upon room

So you never safe

[tardy ingot]

Make potato spawn nightmare babies that explode

unique design

Based

[wet bear]

We have bigger P-mom that birth exploding enemies

Play more modded, get scared by it or by crawling emp tank

That also births enemies

[tardy ingot]

most of it just seems so meh

charger reskin x100

Theres some gems

[wet bear]

More of vanilla seems so meh

[tardy ingot]

but a lot is just not gtfo feel

[wet bear]

It's still GTFO feel

Even better because you can have fear from some of them

Vanilla enemies doesn't do fear anymore

[tardy ingot]

you are just modded pilled

theres good stuff for sure

[wet bear]

You just too closed person, you need to be more open for new stuff

[tardy ingot]

Oh i am

i think design wise visually the best enemy was greg scouts

so much looks kinda ass or unimaginative

Its incredibly hard to build stuff tho id guess, so no blame

But modded just usually doesnt fit vanilla that much

[wet bear]

Most of them are built from parts of vanilla enemies (greg scout too) because yeah

[wet bear]

But modded is modded for being modded and not vanilla

[tardy ingot]

The biggest/best thing from modded ive seen are tilesets

(Ignore fix mods)

[wet bear]

Like I can't say that sex mods for sims fit vanilla sims, same for modded enemies, they're modded for being modded enemies and do their role there and not in vanilla

[wet bear]

Tilesets are good thing of modded, I really like most of modded tiles, they're really good imo

[tardy ingot]

Im gonna argue this in a similar way to gun mods (arsenality iirc)

Theres a few interesting gems in there. And then a ton of stuff that just doesnt need to exist

[tardy ingot]

Yea
Theres some i insanely sick ones and its a shame that they arent in vanilla cuz they fit the feel

[wet bear]

Arsenality is strange being of modded guns for vanilla game but yeah it's just exist for people to use it if they like it

I mostly hate people trying to get rundown mods to work in vanilla and play mp with other people without it, especially when they new to game and I just see "guys how to get weapon in tool slot working so I can play with other people"

[ocean spindle]

can i mod in tacos

[wet bear]

You can create taco mod so it replaces medi with taco

[ocean spindle]

amazing

[wet bear]

No you

[ocean spindle]

no u

[twin shoal]

Which mission had Hearsay archives?

[icy cave]

A lot

[twin shoal]

I got the answer, I meant "project insight archives"

[icy cave]

Aaaah R8C1 ovl

[twin shoal]

yep

[icy cave]

👍

[silent delta]

Average Mexican

[ocean spindle]

:]

[neon gust]

there were like a total of 2 enemies in modded history that where actually good and well made

and that was the shapeshifting enemy from sector 21 i think

and another one that i dont remember

the rest are just shitty jank

or something uncreative shit from fatal

thats not even properly balanced

Now i will say

i do miss breaktrough

😭

it was so good

[green bronze]

bruh

[neon gust]

like if you need to do a whole animal planet excel sheet for you "enemy" variety i think you are delulu in thinking whats good

[green bronze]

its possible to glitch through most of small bulkhead door ig

[neon gust]

i wish i had more stickers like this

[tardy ingot]

only in afaik?

not out

[green bronze]

yeah

you can still do the first full team scan

but you will still be useless until your teammates open the door

we should try to find a way out

so that we can actually exploit this

🤑

[frail heart]

ON GOD

"guys 100+ enemy variants"

"this one shits and cums everywhere I just made it cause i wanted to"

[twin hamlet]

I hate to break it to you, but that was kind of the point of fatal experiment

Did you think it was supposed to be super serious or something

[frail heart]

Yes

ITs still ass tho

[silent delta]

cant believe they added borderlands to gtfo

[frail heart]

ONG

bro added mf terramorphous

[wet bear]

Dam people think that mods should be serious and have storytelling and voice acting idk I thought mods were for fun mixed with fun

[silent delta]

no

pmom scout is very very serious

[frail heart]

Still ass

Not very fun imo

Now lockout 3

THAT was amazing

[wet bear]

I mean, you also ass like everyone here including me

[frail heart]

I do

Howd you know

[wet bear]

Which one

[frail heart]

Lockout 3

[wet bear]

I see the mario kart one

[frail heart]

Yes

[wet bear]

Fun for 20 minutes summed up across different parties

[twin hamlet]

womp womp

[hardy grotto]

I should play inferno again

[twin hamlet]

Inferno is way too much lmao

[hardy grotto]

it is pretty unhinged

idk if I ever beat an alarm in that

[twin hamlet]

Fatal 2 is tame compared to inferno

[hardy grotto]

If I did it would’ve been a really short one

[twin hamlet]

Because the guy who made inferno just took all the boss enemies from fatal and just stuck them wherever

[wet bear]

And gave every mob regen/emp/speed/damage variations

[jagged shore]

"these are what i believe ALT should have been." btw

[wet bear]

Loading in menu for 5 mins fr

[twin hamlet]

Yeah I'm not 100% sure what the plan was

Random tier 3 enemies mixed in with trash lol

[wet bear]

Imo the problem is balance between those enemies and weapons that do not enough damage/clear sometimes

Like I remember launching first surge on R5E1 and getting stomped by enemies with 1k+ life and regen while being dragged by hybrid shooters grapplers

[digital mural]

1k

[twin hamlet]

Christ I didn't realise it was that bad, I didn't play it for long because of the insane load times

[wet bear]

I think I only completed R1A1 and R2A1 but redone by him, and R2A1 only main because sec is warden survive objective for 30 mins with constant waves

[past mesa]

I wish

[wet bear]

And guess how gameplay looked like when you have mg that deals 2 damage but has 1300 bullets in mag

[past mesa]

I could plug gtfr into inferno

[wet bear]

That's even more cursed

[past mesa]

It would be so funny

[wet bear]

Getting alarm of gnome emp tanks

[past mesa]

well GTFR randomized individual spawns

So you would basically get a wave of unique sleepers down the line

Which is very silly

[wet bear]

Tbh inferno spawns in rooms are randomised but they have some like I guess limit from what they can spawn

[past mesa]

yeah well they spawn based the population groups

[wet bear]

Because I remember restarting one level and sometimes I got new enemies

[past mesa]

yeah sometimes that happens due to enemy being locked out from spawning

because I think only 50 enemies can spawn per room

Think r7d1 scout population

but I forget why that one happens

[wet bear]

GTFR inferno would hit hard not only pc but players psychic state

[past mesa]

Tbh all I need to build it would be a list of all the enemy IDs

in president ID form

[wet bear]

I love that I can't even see them all and spawn test via console

[past mesa]

XD

[wet bear]

They just don't fit in enemy list in console

[jagged shore]

Readme said like 1400 enemies
So yeah a lot

[twin hamlet]

holy shit

[jagged shore]

Seems a bit overcooked to me

[past mesa]

100%

But it is so funny jarhead

you just run into a shadow tank

Randomly

Or you run into a giant hybrid

[wet bear]

And then you find a fucking shadow mega mom that birthed snatcher

[jagged shore]

Jish if you want I can actually get you an enemy id list in a little bit, it's really not that hard

[past mesa]

I mean yea

[jagged shore]

I'm sure you could do it yourself if you really wanted lol

[past mesa]

The other problem is I would want to order them based on health?

[jagged shore]

I can do that I'm pretty sure

[past mesa]

Yeah it wouldn’t be to bad

There is so other things that can go poorly

[twin hamlet]

Order them based on Persistent ID surely

[past mesa]

I mean flyiers in stealth break

[twin hamlet]

Ah right yeah

[past mesa]

So other enemies break in stealth

Scouts break in waves( the sound is very annyoing)

[wet bear]

Iirc some of them have like 1000001 ids lmao

[twin hamlet]

lol

[past mesa]

but other than that there isn’t to many issues

[wet bear]

Also love that scouts doesn't work in 90% of inferno I think

[jagged shore]

Lol
Lmao even

[wet bear]

They just scream

Or they are stuck in floor

Sometimes I just idk wtf is happening there, my friend become deaf after holding lmb with mg with 1300 bullets in mag for 4 mins on hsu scan

Bro became Hel auto sentry

[hardy grotto]

i just remember doing an alarm and suddenly everything became pitch black and my bio didnt work

and then like a ton of other random ass enemies showed up and it was kinda just over

didnt have the gamesense required to win...

[wet bear]

Emp trait mob, there's like a fucking ton od them

[hardy grotto]

yea

[twin hamlet]

Emp is a cool mechanic but not if spammed lol

[hardy grotto]

i had no idea at the time

[wet bear]

Iirc I have a clip where I shot my teammate during emp because he came from enemies direction

And I saw him because weird shotgun had permanent flashlight that doesn't turned off but it was like cyan colour

[tiny wyvern]

is emp a modded sleeper

or just a mechanic

[wet bear]

Yeah this fucking thing
#short-clips message

[wet bear]

Mechanic

But you can put it on sleepers kinda and that makes a modded sleeper

[twin hamlet]

Disables all flashlights, bio and sentries and shuts off nearby lights

[twin hamlet]

this clip is great lmao

[wet bear]

Iirc that was like 3 am for us at that moment lmao

We beat A2 after that by taking 4 mgs with 1300 bullets and just holding lmbs but we didn't do secondary fully because fuck it, holding for 30 minutes with constant spawns of brawlers emp and other stuff

While you have nothing to do or even walk somewhere, it's R2A1 map but with adding 1 sec door zone and that's all

And the sec zone is literally 1 room the storage room from R1A1 Zone E with hsus or R1B1 before third alarm for example, thank god extract shows up the moment you pick up 2 cargos

[safe cradle]

what the hell is the deal with those weapon names

"wish ender sentry", "queenbreaker"

[wet bear]

Destiny

[digital mural]

Wish Ender bow

Queens Breaker is a sniper i think

Yeah
Sniper in D1
Linear fusion in D2

[wet bear]

I think all weapons/tools names in inferno are destiny weapons names

[digital mural]

Do You have the list

I'm curious to see which ones did they picked

[wet bear]

No, download it and load into menu and see urself

[digital mural]

I can't open inferno

I literally cant

[wet bear]

Does it crash your ssd like daks level do@

[digital mural]

It freezes my computer instantly

[wet bear]

Lmao

[digital mural]

:)

[wet bear]

I'm not home so yeah no list, but iirc they're all destiny weapons from d1 and d2

[soft crater]

I can't wait to just kill a wave with Gjallarhorn

And then whip out the Timelost Fatebringer

(No I haven't played Inferno myself)
My waffle maker would likely crash as well

[wet bear]

Lmao

For me it just takes around 5-10 min max to load in menu

[digital mural]

💀

Thats really bad

[wet bear]

Nah it's fine

[digital mural]

Bro at 5-10 mins im already dropping into a level

(in vanilla)

[soft crater]

[wet bear]

Vanilla, and I'm talking about inferno, in terms of inferno that's ok lmao

[soft crater]

I'm sitting here just looking at the console load up all the assets

I sat here waiting then checked and I just see asset after asset after asset

[wet bear]

In inferno you can watch it for eternity, very depends on pc

[soft crater]

I wanna say

5minutes?

[digital mural]

So inferno is just a bunch of random shit glued together

[wet bear]

It's funny that they looks almost same with same yellow colour, sometimes makes you think you stuck in loop

[wet bear]

Mostly yes

[soft crater]

Yo

Gjallarhorn is actually here

[digital mural]

IS IT?

Send picture

[wet bear]

Imo most of weapons are shit there

[twin hamlet]

yes

[digital mural]

Just send the whole gun name list

[digital mural]

Quality glue or cheap glue?

[soft crater]

I don't think it's an actual rocket launcher. Just in name

[twin hamlet]

Cheap glue

[digital mural]

Damn

Damn x2

[wet bear]

There's just names mostly

[soft crater]

Malfeasance (Submachine gun) LOL

[twin hamlet]

The trouble is, half the enemy set is Fatal enemies, but they're all just used whenever they felt like it, so high tier enemies just show up randomly

and roll you

[soft crater]

Hand cannon =/= Smg

[wet bear]

Yes

[soft crater]

Funny rundown but idk if I'll ever actually play it

[prime musk]

is there a checkpoint bug that breaks flyer/kraken projectiles specifically for client

rephrased: i got a bug whereby as client specifically flyers/kraken could not deal damage when i was on highest floor in r6d1
is this caused by checkpoint reset or something else entirely

[sturdy glen]

that would be shooter bug

unrelated to checkpoints

[prime musk]

and it would only affect individual players (in this case me) rathee than being teamwide?

[sturdy glen]

ye

its caused by unculled objects on your client

fixed 100% by restarting your game

its also the cfoam flying through doors bug if you know that

same bug

[prime musk]

yes

bugs are bugs but why did it unbreak when i descended the structure

[sturdy glen]

swapping your gun loadout fixes it if the unculled object is a magazine (which it is most of the time)

[prime musk]

ah i worded myself poorly

[sturdy glen]

oh like when you werent on the top floor you mean?

[prime musk]

i was shooting the kraken in r6d1 and noticed i was taking no damage
i was standing and the highest "floor" in alpha dimension
i descended 1 floor to get a better shot at a tumour
then i could take damage
when i went up it stopped working again

[sturdy glen]

gotcha

[prime musk]

eg why does changing player y position affect this

[sturdy glen]

the projectiles not hitting when you have shooterbug also has smth to do with the angle its shot at you (or something like that I dont know for sure)

basically its not fixed but sometimes youre positioned in a way where you get hit anyways

[strange jolt]

yeah difference in elevation lets projectiles hit you even when shooter bugged

[tiny wyvern]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1255620392660238458
Maybe this would help?

[strange jolt]

so ig you were "level" with most flyers and the kraken while at the top floor

[prime musk]

i see
feels absurd that somehow 0 projectiles were at the proper angle to damage for several minutes uptop but it makes sense

[tepid cloud]

does the game run off of the host connection or mine?

some groups i have no problems at all and other i just cant

[tiny wyvern]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1281414730090811503

[strange jolt]

both matters, if your connection to a certain player sucks theres just nothing the client can do about it

im sure someone else can explain better but host should also have a stable upload and a decent cpu to process whatevers going on in the level

[whole loom]

Is there any way to lower the settings or setup gpu culling that you can run this on intel integrated graphics

Or any special commands etc this looks like an awesome game shame about the potato laptop

[icy cave]

Probably not.

But try #1049599987878723635

[whole loom]

What about lowering the resolution?

Ahh ok thx

[icy cave]

You're talking about intel integrated graphics. that is really really pushing it for a game like this. ut who know meaby a miracle can happen

[whole loom]

Maybe maybe but prob no

[north vault]

guys look... im lowkey kinda slow. Where do I paste the lobby ID, I cannot find the red clipboard button

[icy cave]

Did you copy the code? you don't see a red lobby button appear in the rundown screen?

[north vault]

Coppied the code for the rundown i want to join and still no red buttons in the rundown selection screen or in the actual level selection screen

[icy cave]

that'd not how it works. lobby codes are to join a specific person.

You copy the code paste it in lfg and then others can join your lobby directly

alternatively you copy a code from lfg and join that specific lobby

#how-to-matchmake

[tardy ingot]

(Also you cant be in a lobby yourself)

[icy cave]

he figured it out.

[native sun]

There's also LowSpecGaming mod

[whole loom]

Eh?

Oh the YouTuber right?

[wet bear]

The mod for game that makes it kinda potato

[whole loom]

Ah but do you think it can run

With the mod

With intel integrated

And i5 11 gen

[wet bear]

Idk never tested it with integrated

[whole loom]

Hmmm

[wet bear]

Game can't run smoothly on some good PCs so you never know

[whole loom]

Dang then it’s prob not gonna happen

Btw how good are the bot teammates?

[wet bear]

Not very but can do some work

[whole loom]

That’s one of the features right

[whole loom]

Ahh ok ic

[icy cave]

can't finish the game with them (legit vanilla)

[whole loom]

Dang ok ok

[icy cave]

Bots were added as a last resort for teams to fill up the last or last 2 slots. 1 person 3 bots is just not doable. you can finish up a lot. but not everything.

[whole loom]

Yes that true, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this but are there any similar extraction shooters which can run on my gear? Game looks goated but I’m prob not gonna be able to play it

[icy cave]

Ooof I have no clue. GTFO is kinda it's own thing

[tardy ingot]

With the lowspecgaming mod tru mentioned it might be possible

[safe cradle]

Maybe, but it's really pushing it with an iGPU

There's also more to videocards than just the performance

Like, let's take the GTX 980

a good 10% better than a 1060

But it's perhaps (I'm just making an example) not going to run GTFO simply because the drivers for that series stopped being updated

It ain't the case in question, but it's more complex than the GPU not being fast enough

[craggy pier]

Which integrated gpu?

@whole loom if you have a game that you can run with 30-45 fps, then I suggest that you get lsfg and double the frames using it.

The only caveat is the input lag

[tiny wyvern]

Low spec just let's you tune every texture to your liking

It doesn't have to be absolute potato

[whole loom]

Tbh idt this game will even run at 30-40 fps

I might just try it out and see how

Maybe I could just make everything nearly flat colors and it would run

Not sure if that’d be worth it though

Since it’ll look like 🤮🤮🤮

[craggy pier]

You should try but if you are not getting decent fps and visual experience then maybe play some other time when you have a a good pc.

[soft crater]

I need ps2 potato level graphics

[craggy pier]

You can make a good rig with gaming capabilities on ryzen 5 apu, it's very cost efficient and gives the performance of GTX 1650, 760m Integraged GPU

[silent delta]

Need to give the shooters PS1 triangle boobs

[tiny wyvern]

Of all seriousness though, if it doesn't work you could easily refund

[whole loom]

👍👍

[soft crater]

Or fall into the sink hole gtfo is and be 2k hours deep and still be bad

Don't be like me

[finite oracle]

do c foam boosters apply the bonus if you shoot 1 blob at a time?

[wet bear]

They only affect the total % of foam spent per charge so 1 blob always will eat 1% kinda

With stacked up boosters you better be doing full charges so you spent less than 20% per full charge

[safe cradle]

I did some super basic tests a long ago and basically it's better if you charge up

basically it was something along the lines of it being efficiency (like described), you dont shoot MORE foam, you USE less "foam ammo".

[prime musk]

if there are enemies alive when a checkpoint is saved will said enemies still be alive when reloading?
as in, suppose im chased by 4 strikers when i finish checkpoint scan and then die
will there be 4 strikers on checkpoint scan when reloaded

[civic wave]

yea should be

[ocean spindle]

yeah it happens a lot in r6c3 i think

and r8e1 and stuff

[red flax]

How does closing the floodgates work in ||R8D2||? Can you close all 3? We only seemed to be able to close 2 at which point the third terminal didn't have the command

[digital mural]

its better to just close 2 of them

and then run to the sec door with the key

[civic wave]

yeah you can do all 3 but it may be a bit tight on time

speedrun does all 3

[red flax]

What does it do exactly

[jagged shore]

they remove/lower certain enemies in the coming waves

[red flax]

Until the error stops or earlier?

[carmine grotto]

prevents larger waves from spawning over the next few errors

^until error is turned off

[digital mural]

also a tank each "big" wave

[red flax]

Tank in resource room makes it seem not worth atm for us

[digital mural]

you do the resource room after the error alarm

you can nuke him easily

[red flax]

That's the plan so far yeah

[red flax]

He nukes bots easier :(

[digital mural]

use them as shields

also D2 with bots is really painful

[carmine grotto]

solid strat

[tiny wyvern]

As long as you don't run INTO tank they should work fine as shields

[digital mural]

but the bots are the ones that run into the tank

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah
If you're quicker to the chase you can run into them first

[twin hamlet]

If you do secondary you can kill the tank before you start the error part

Since the resource room is unlocked

[ocean spindle]

only if u don't have the res room open

[ocean spindle]

if u open the XII too but that's admittedly equally hard

[twin hamlet]

isn't it a class 9

[digital mural]

nope

its a class 12

[twin hamlet]

Wow I don't remember that lol

[digital mural]

No one does it anyways

[twin hamlet]

Wait we are talking about the 99% fog removal right

[digital mural]

No

[twin hamlet]

Oh right that class 12 lol

[digital mural]

Yeah the first alarm door

[twin hamlet]

Yeah idk why you'd do that unless you're speedrunning

Didn't know it opened the resource room door though

[past mesa]

It is slower

Unfortunately

[twin hamlet]

Oh fr?

[past mesa]

Yeah

[twin hamlet]

damn fair enough, I guess the other path is pretty fast

[past mesa]

you can just sprint to the door

Sprint into the room

The sprint back

[twin hamlet]

skips 8 classes of long ass scans

[past mesa]

As long as that took less time than 8 scans you save time

[twin hamlet]

yeah sounds about right

[past mesa]

yeah

Probs there is some variation of seed that makes it way better to do the class 12

[twin hamlet]

Plus you get some foam stuff too

[past mesa]

but you just reset

[past mesa]

You could especially if your doing the funny secondary but I think the strat for that is just to not do the big scan

The level is kinda funny

[twin hamlet]

Speedrunning 100% sounds annoying

[past mesa]

It is

[ruby condor]

what does nrv probe reaction mean?

[native sun]

Just flavour text

[ruby condor]

meaning?

sorry im smooth brain

[native sun]

It doesn't mean anything, it's just there for vibes

[ocean spindle]

it's fancy to add depth

[native sun]

"flavour"

[ocean spindle]

seasoning

[ruby condor]

same with the metal?

[native sun]

mental? ye

[ocean spindle]

the metal

the metal music

[ruby condor]

yeah yeah

[ocean spindle]

:D

[ruby condor]

thank you, just started playing a few days ago

[ocean spindle]

hope ur enjoying the gameee

[ruby condor]

thank you ! defiantly different from most games ive played! enjoying for sure

[ocean spindle]

very gtfo :] very cool

[sand birch]

question for the world: is there any "proper" way to play R6? R6AX unlocks after beating B1, so it's making me wonder if you're intended play that mission after, considering it's also story

[grizzled widget]

Originally the extensions always take place after the rundown they released during. I do not know if that is still the case, but given these levels are still 'X', I would assume so.

It's only a little strange that their placement was changed. (From bx cx dx to ax bx cx)

[jagged shore]

imo it's best to treat the X levels in r6 as a mini campaign to be done after r6 proper

[frail heart]

Tbh can do whenever. Imo AX is b tier difficulty, BX is c tier and CX is d tier

[icy cave]

The X levels were originally an Xtension, added to R6 5-6 months after original release and they cover their own small story bit. You are better off doing them one after another when you unlocked them all 3

[safe cradle]

I think X levels were just called that because they wanted people to do them in sequence, since it was also when they started the idea of doing relatively connected levels from a lore point (R6C1 teases the ending of R6D1).

And I would have left the names like what they were just to avoid confusion instead of renaming them to be 1 tier up.

[icy cave]

1 tier down*

[safe cradle]

AX is up compared to BX? I always called those that way since it goes down in the rundown screen

E being at the bottom and A being at the top

[icy cave]

I meant in terms of difficulty. So then it would be a tier down in diff.

Anyways seeing it your way it works

[safe cradle]

Yeah I'd guess in terms of difficulty it'd be down

[icy cave]

so I have said nothing

[finite oracle]

in r2e1 whats the time interval between the error alarm wave spawns

[safe cradle]

Not sure but should be 30 seconds 3 strikers then it ramps up every 4 mins adding one striker

Or something like that

[errant dome]

sounds about right

i think max it ramps up to was 10

[trail carbon]

so quick question, ive kinda hated it but see it everywhere, is the HEL shotgun actually good? I tried playing around with it a bit and it felt okay-ish

[minor fractal]

One of the most broken weapons in the game, kind of carries wave clear on any loadout.

[native sun]

It is very very very very good in situations where there is a whole bunch of enemies right up in your face all at once.

And that situation is generally one which gets you killed if you're on any other weapon.

[trail carbon]

honestly fair enough, ive always gravitated to the HEL revolver because obv

me and a buddy are going back through the rundowns and actually doing the PE's so figured id give it a go lmao

[native sun]

HEL revo is much better in 90% of situations, but those are also the situations which are generally less threatening, so it kinda doesn't matter to be good at them.

Of course, if you can completely avoid the bunch of enemies in your face all at once situation then you won't miss hel shotgun

[trail carbon]

fair

Weve backtracked currently to doing R2E1 and you know... it will probably be mildly useful there lol

[native sun]

That is a level where the bunch of enemies in your face all at once situation is fairly common

[trail carbon]

god bless Surge alarms

but yeah its one of those weapons I kinda wrote off like the combat shotgun for a long time while going through the game

[native sun]

HEL shotty + combat shotty HEL autopp + MG is probably the best loadout on R2E1

So I think you'll find some use for them there

[tiny wyvern]

You also use it to pierce mom
And kill babies

[ocean spindle]

probs clarify not as in damaging tumors

just as in going through the enemy itself

but the damage it's just 1x no matter the pen for tumors

[red flax]

I know pierce can only hit one tumor, but does pierce go through the rest of the enemy to get to a tumor if you missed?

[twin terrace]

like through the front of the tank ?

[native sun]

Nope, you deal damage to the first part of the enemy that you hit

[silent delta]

eight shotguns. who needs range anyway

what hybrids

[sturdy glen]

only need 1 pellet to stagger the hybrid

[digital mural]

Slug shotgun *

[hardy grotto]

I wonder why he thinks this…

[native sun]

fixed it...

[hardy grotto]

NOOO

[soft crater]

Which MG. Will we ever find out?

[hollow plaza]

hey im thinking about getting back into gtfo but how hard is it solo? i dont have much friends that play it but i sometimes do like playing solo more

[ocean spindle]

solo solo is a challenge more than a feasible way
with 3 bots it's feasible, but up until difficult levels or very team play based levels- which there's a couple of

so there is a section of this game- mostly C or D tiers- that need people

[digital mural]

Solo is impossible

[ocean spindle]

smh ur late

[digital mural]

Some levels need exploits or bugs

[digital mural]

Who is late

[ocean spindle]

but well yes u would eventually need friendos

[ocean spindle]

ur nuts

[soft crater]

[digital mural]

Ligma?

[soft crater]

who the fuck is "late"?

[ocean spindle]

i'm joking

[digital mural]

No

Who is it

Tell us now

[ocean spindle]

ur late >:O

[digital mural]

WHO

[ocean spindle]

u

[silent delta]

never seen pablo this late

[rotund linden]

guys any tips for clearing r1c1?

its the nuclear reactor one

[green bronze]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[rotund linden]

ok thank u ! mainly the sentry wave placement is the problem we put all 4 day at start so is a waste

[crystal blaze]

3 biotrackers and 1 HEL autosentry

[grizzled patrol]

3 tripmines and one Shotgun sentry

[valid wing]

Is it okay to play public games with mods? I wanted to do the mod where you can put back resources

[hard nexus]

Should be okay but ppl might call out skill issue

[tiny wyvern]

Most qol mods are 'fine', the put back one is 'technically' fine
Some people might not like it, in which case you can stop using it

[hard nexus]

Orr stop playing with them

[valid wing]

the qol putback mod i think is best for r2d2

so you can just stack them in one place

[hard nexus]

Git gud is best

[tiny wyvern]

Like PB is the quintessential border of qol mods
Anything more than that is going to get you flack

[silent delta]

Does PB stand for put back or perfect boosters

I feel like either of those work

[hard nexus]

Precision 🅱️ifle

[silent delta]

Real

[valid wing]

i was able to play r2d2 yesterday with someone using putback mod and the game still beat us reactor 8/10

[silent delta]

What guns are y'all using

And is it choke mod, mr chokies14

[hard nexus]

Machine pistol Machine gun

[valid wing]

i was using hel revolver and machinegun with charge

[hard nexus]

Close enough

[silent delta]

I see

And what were y'all dying to?

[valid wing]

we have 2 sniper sentry 1 burst

the scan on the 8/10 i think

[silent delta]

The class V?

[valid wing]

the room where they are coming from the top with ladder

[silent delta]

Lmao idk make sure ur bio is on top of their game and giving callouts

[valid wing]

we were not able to redeploy the sentries

[silent delta]

If you're not running out of ammo that alarm is usually fine

Ah

[valid wing]

because there was a scan that you had to go down the ladder

lol

2 noobs and 2 who finished r2d2 i think

[silent delta]

Always always pick up your sentries when you're done with the wave and codehunting

[valid wing]

me and my friend wre the 2noobs hahah

[silent delta]

Yeah for that alarm idk, either just hold onto the turrets or set then up at one of the two doors

Rely on guns for that alarm

[valid wing]

im still enjoying the game wiuthout any mods

i just think the putback mod is best for r2d2

or probably were the item ping stays on

resource helper

[hard nexus]

U don't need anything for r2d2 just patience

Even if u know the level even a little tomfoolery can help throw

[tiny wyvern]

Scout room pull
Still remember someone thinking it would be a good idea

[valid wing]

is it better to use hel revolver + choke mod

im still thinking if its best to have a machine gun

[hard nexus]

Hel revolver and hel gun

[frail heart]

choke mod is pretty bad

[hard nexus]

Issok

[silent delta]

Choke mod is ehh

It's pretty good on paper, but small clip+long reload hurts

[valid wing]

hel gun is the sniper one?

[silent delta]

What

[tiny wyvern]

Not hel rifle

There's something actuallly called hel gun

[valid wing]

okay i found what the helgun is now

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Omneco_EXP1_HEL_Gun

[silent delta]

Yeah that one

Also quite good but slightly less brain dead I think

[hard nexus]

Not as long as bullpup

Or pb

[silent delta]

dont mean its not still painful

a regular missile will cause less damage than a nuclear warhead but itll still fuck up your day

[digital mural]

Bro
Everyone can survive a regular missile

[frail heart]

do it then

[digital mural]

Send me a missile then

[hard nexus]

It's totally fine idk

Skill issue

[worldly stirrup]

I think gtfo has filtered in my country 🙂 why?

[topaz anvil]

could be for any reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[safe cradle]

Well it depends

I think some countries ISPs really DO NOT like P2P routing or things like that

If you're referring to being unable to connect to certain hosts

But to be honest, P2P being what it is, it's hard to tell between that and just P2P being bad

Sometimes I've troubles connecting to people in Northern EU for no reason for example

While Host in East US is fine

[glossy horizon]

what is artifact heat?

[digital mural]

`
Artifact Heat is a mechanic present on the Rundown UI. The number will dictate how valuable each artifact is within a given level.

At 100% heat, each artifact will contribute towards 0.15 Booster progress, or 15%. As heat decreases, so will its progress towards a Booster. Artifact heat will never reach below 20% (at this heat level, artifacts will increase the Booster progress by 0.03).

Artifact heat will decrease by 1% for every artifact collected in the current expedition regardless of type. Artifact heat will increase by 1% for all other expeditions every 3 artifacts collected. Artifacts will only be counted as collected when you complete a level, fail a level, or retire to lobby. Exiting the game or returning to the desktop will not grant you any artifact progression.
`

[glossy horizon]

so the more i run the same thing the less boosters I get ?

[digital mural]

Basically
Yes

[soft crater]

-# Artifact Heat is a mechanic present on the Rundown UI. The number will dictate how valuable each artifact is within a given level.

-# At 100% heat, each artifact will contribute towards 0.15 Booster progress, or 15%. As heat decreases, so will its progress towards a Booster. Artifact heat will never reach below 20% (at this heat level, artifacts will increase the Booster progress by 0.03).

-# Artifact heat will decrease by 1% for every artifact collected in the current expedition regardless of type. Artifact heat will increase by 1% for all other expeditions every 3 artifacts collected. Artifacts will only be counted as collected when you complete a level, fail a level, or retire to lobby. Exiting the game or returning to the desktop will not grant you any artifact progression.

I hate that this text stuff gets used to scam ppl

[minor fractal]

wym?

[prime musk]

what are the chances game says fuck you and just doesn't spawn a fog turbine behind the blood door where the cell is in r2e1

[tardy ingot]

Unfortunate bug

[prime musk]

it's alright we died on alarm anyways so we never need the turbine

but ok it isn't super rare then

actually is it just caused by game trying to spawn fog turbine and cell in exact same spot

[tiny wyvern]

Oh um...
Double cell spawns on one side
And turbine on the other

No idea why

[prime musk]

no, there was just one cell

[tiny wyvern]

Never seen that before
So Idk

Maybe I remember it wrong

It was around Feb so yeah, probs remembered the wrong stuff

[prime musk]

it's whatever but interesting

[soft crater]

-# this
this

Some ppl none the wiser would believe some texts inputed like that believing it's legit.

I had to tell my ex a dm with similar stuff that it was a scam.

Often times with a hyper link as well

[indigo jungle]

friends are insistent that auto sentry is the best sentry for anything and everything, i think they're wrong and burst is the best overall-allrounder. I understand that they all have their niche applications (except shotgun). What is the best sentry?

[sturdy glen]

burst

[past mesa]

burst unless nightmare or charger spam

[tiny wyvern]

Do your friends have their reasoning behind why they think so?

[indigo jungle]

"the auto sentry has penetration rounds making it viable during sitatuins where there are large swarms of enemies"

[past mesa]

so the easy answer to this is it just misses

most of its shots

[civic wave]

every sentry will still shoot during large waves, and in fact burst sentry will end up dealing more damage than auto sentry in said situations

and lasting longer

so it shoots more enemies

[digital mural]

That would be right
If the sentry didnt miss 90% of its bullets

[tiny wyvern]

And its ammo consump is... awful

[civic wave]

auto sentry is low damage bullet spam, it's very good in specific situations (which require you to abuse the fact that it deals bonus damage to enemies' backs), but burst is better in the vast majority of circumstances

[digital mural]

Now show your friend this small convo

[tiny wyvern]

If they have more questions, we can help answer them

Especially with sentries

[indigo jungle]

already a step ahead ofme

[tiny wyvern]

Is burst more accurate than sniper, or is it the other way around

Assuming bio symbio

[civic wave]

afaik base game neither of them will miss any shots unless the enemy the sentry is firing at dies at the right moment

but i've never scienced it

[past mesa]

it is

the same as burst

if it didnt miss

....

[prime musk]

in r2d2 for soloing
i need to kite 12 or more giants for wave 9 and 10 to fill spawncap right
can i get away with shooting up the entirety of zone 199/200 depending on where key is and just get giants from the other zone or do i need to save some from zone with key

[tiny wyvern]

cap is 25, giants count as 2

so one licker/ shooter can fit in

[prime musk]

sure i need 13 giants

[silent delta]

13 hybrids

optimal

[prime musk]

i mean stragglers are so funny i get hybrids during both of the class 4s in r2d2

[silent delta]

arent tanks like 1.5 or something

[silent delta]

immense skill issue

[prime musk]

i mean

it's hardly my fault when a hybrid on wave 4 just shows up 4 minutes late

4 minutes after everything else has arrived an i have had time to shoot up the entirey of 194

and go back

and start alarm

and get half of alarm done

[silent delta]

yeah skill diff

just need a better gaming chair tbh

[prime musk]

this is true im on a kitchen chair right now

[silent delta]

theres ur problem

[prime musk]

i also had like 4 minutes worth of stragglers after wave 8 but that doesn't actually matter because there's still infinite time to get key and do alarm and get code

i just need to shoot better tbh

[sturdy glen]

you cant outshoot wave 10 unfortunately

[prime musk]

yeah but shooting better sure would help with not having stragglers

[prime musk]

bumping

[silent delta]

i mean if you're good enough im sure you could get away with shooting the sleepign zones

theres certainly plenty of ammo for it

what guns?

[prime musk]

the problem isn't shooting them

the problem is that you use the sleeping giants for spawncapping for wave 9 and 10

[prime musk]

sawd off hel rifle

[silent delta]

yeah you'll be fine

[prime musk]

listen if i can clear wave 8 i think i know what im doing with guns and shooting well enough

i've just died to stupidity every time i have cleared wave 8

[green bronze]

that's cheating mod actually

[soft crater]

Learning what is and isn't "QoL" is interesting for newbies

[tiny wyvern]

I mean most people don't quite get 'cheating' in gtfo

Since there's always those murky waters

I haven't seen anyone use putback in ages tho

[past mesa]

Am I cheating if I up my fov in the setting folder above 120

[tiny wyvern]

Will the game even process that

[past mesa]

Ye

Up to like 170 or something

It can allow you almost to look straight up while reviving

[tiny wyvern]

I suppose it's limited by unity rather than the game itself

[past mesa]

Ye

[green bronze]

wtf

ok I gotta try that shit out on a ultrawide monitor

[digital mural]

Yes

[past mesa]

How about changing my shadow settings

[green bronze]

5120x1080 + 170 fov

[past mesa]

To be able to see shadows

[safe cradle]

What if someone cheats some cfgs in Battle Royale FPSes so they do not see grass at all?

[green bronze]

uhhhh

they will not see the grass?

[safe cradle]

IMHO changing things that are not intended to be changeable by the ingame settings menu IS cheating

Ingame you can change you FoV so you can shoot and revive and other "neat" things like that

I personally, no hate, think that it's a bit cringe if you play with fisheye lense effect JUST to be able to have those advantages but you do you

[green bronze]

yeah but playing with higher FoV means having more information to process

[hard nexus]

Fellow fov90 pleyer?

[safe cradle]

I assume with curved monitors certain high FoV look less weird than they do on mine but whatever

[safe cradle]

ehhh cant remember what FoV I have set on give me a sec

[hard nexus]

I have different than yours because I'm 16:10

[safe cradle]

cfg says FoV 84

[hard nexus]

Who is cfg

[safe cradle]

GTFO_Settings

cant be bothered to run the game

[hard nexus]

Hold to inject

You know you want to

[safe cradle]

Do I?

[hard nexus]

Of course

Press matchmake

[safe cradle]

I've been thinking of just deleting GTFO tbh lately

[hard nexus]

I've jumped on again with the sale

And after sale mm is not dead yet

So is aight

[safe cradle]

I cant be bothered to do R8D1 without disinfection or get all logs so achievements I dont care about

[hard nexus]

So just play game

[safe cradle]

and I already did Sum Total so what's the point?

[hard nexus]

Who cares about achievements

But as of today yes there are better things to do

Darktide, metaphor demo, remnant dlc

[safe cradle]

ZZZ

I meant the game

[hard nexus]

Yeah

[green bronze]

how do i get that 170 fox

my settings file doesnt work

[safe cradle]

ehhehe

[green bronze]

oh nvm

its working now

[safe cradle]

That's a big fox

[green bronze]

omg

this is so good

[safe cradle]

170 fox

[green bronze]

omg

omg

omg

this is cheating

[safe cradle]

get higher go full 360 view

FoV of 200

[green bronze]

#gtfo-media message

wtf is this dumbass shit

[safe cradle]

"Ehi, where did my cocaine supply go?" -Schaeffer

AFAIK it doesn't actually make you go faster

[green bronze]

yeah ik

[safe cradle]

it's just an illusion

but it looks so fucking silly

[green bronze]

tru

im trying out uhh 200 fov

i may do it on my desktop when i have free time

well its unplayable

i dont even think anything above 120 is necessary

[tiny wyvern]

Can you even get to 200

Unity might have a cap on it

[green bronze]

you can even get to 300

[red flax]

Only reason I don't play at max fov is because the flashlight being so small makes it hard for me to focus in dark rooms

[soft crater]

The funny part is. It's only visually small.

[silent delta]

skill issue

[lunar rain]

110 i think is mine

Or 120

[soft crater]

100

[past mesa]

150 fov player here

[topaz anvil]

[lunar rain]

^

[past mesa]

Come at me mods!

Stop me from cheating

[sturdy glen]

sounds like qol

[past mesa]

It is

[grizzled patrol]

At that Point that Point what is stopping you from getting 360 fov?

Motion sickness? Just get gud

[grizzled patrol]

Personally i use it Just because everything feels faster + weapons feel better since it makes spread on full Autos appear tighter

[past mesa]

Above 180

You can’t see anything

It becomes a single plane for the entire game

[grizzled patrol]

[sleek cliff]

Ugh, is there any kind of setting/mod that turns off melee for bots?

Why is there even a logic of them going melee during a horde where everything is awoken, when they are full on ammo DURING ALARM?

[strange jolt]

no setting but betterbots probably does that

(its a mod)

[sleek cliff]

I understand

... can't even enjoy this game without bots ruining everything

[strange jolt]

also changes a lot about them outside of that combat ai ofc, there shouldn't be a problem using it if its for yourself

[strange jolt]

not a fan of lfg-ing?

[sleek cliff]

Not a fan of people lagging due to my bad internet

[strange jolt]

fair, but dont be shy to just have a different person host the level if you ever try it out again

gl with the bot adventures

[sleek cliff]

I would lag and ruin everything for others 😄

I already tried, this is why I am desperate to just un-ruin bots

[sleek cliff]

Just for some context

Me and a group of newbs barely did R1A1. Every single door opened for me 2 minutes! after it was opened for everyone else. For me, every single enemy was a headless body standing still for 2+ minutes before they actually dropped dead on my screen

[grizzled patrol]

Just dont Play with bots

[digital mural]

How do they ruin everything

They work well for early and some mid levels

😔

[sleek cliff]

Quite simple. There is an alarm/incoming group of enemies from the room that was alerted by a scout.

What bots do? They pull out melee, go into the middle of all the enemies trying to smack some poor sod and they get eaten

[topaz anvil]

Bots have 1 mission and 1 mission only

to bonk the heretics

[sleek cliff]

Tbh even Darktide bots would be better at surviving 😄

[grizzled patrol]

Sounds Like they were dry on ammo

[noble sierra]

Yeah, basically you can only rely bots to 1. carry tool 2. carry heavy object in this game

[sleek cliff]

80+% on all weapons

[grizzled patrol]

On machineguns?

[sleek cliff]

On all weapons they had - Assault rifles, machineguns, SMGs

And yes, I am sure that they were full - I personally refilled them before starting the alarm

They didn't even shoot their machineguns, a few brrrts from other guns and then full melee afterwards

[grizzled patrol]

At that Point Just Play solo lmao

[soft crater]

The moment you stop fighting. The bots just crumble dead.

[sleek cliff]

Not always. Sometimes they can clutch and get you up

[grizzled patrol]

I Love it when you die on a Giant and they all try to Pick you Up, Just to be smacked by him

[sleek cliff]

Or better yet - use melee to smack the giant

[silent delta]

single mindedly wanting to massage your corpse like a good bot should

[rancid valve]

Do enemies take the shortest path or the path of least risistance during alarms.
Like does the amount of closed doors in a row facter into their pathfinding or do they just find the shortest route regardless of there being 1 or more closed door

[tardy ingot]

path of least resistance
being
rooms to cross > door to smash > distance to cover

[tardy ingot]

try moving away from enemies with bots
they go into melee mode when enemies get rly close (which is pretty stupid tbf)

[rancid valve]

Thank you :)

[tardy ingot]

beware tho
they can be "sucked" onto closed doors if they get to close and a player they are aggrod on is on the other side

[noble sierra]

Least number of areas need to travel then weighted shortest path whithin the area.

[silent delta]

unless they decide ykw fuck you im breaking down that one door you need and then turning around and going the other way anyway

[soft crater]

random pub that keeps opening and closing doors that need to be opened or closed etc.

The last pub I played actually kept worrying about doors not relevant to the alarm we were doing.

[green bronze]

ok my pub is spending like 10 mins for choosing boosters

i wish...

[soft crater]

10 minutes for boosters

[silent delta]

fidget toy

[upper ginkgo]

you need to run instadrop mod homie

[green bronze]

wtf im client

dumbass