gtfo-related-questions

[fierce walrus]

Id say the game isnt exceptionally hard when it comes to these mechanics atleast

[craggy pier]

Look, man, we're not discussing the functions here or their usability. The point is, how are we supposed to figure these things out? By playing with the community and talking? Do I NEED to read the wiki?

[topaz anvil]

I have never opened the wiki

[livid stone]

by spending 1000 hours researching it through trial and error

[digital mural]

I learnt most of the stuff by just playing

[craggy pier]

Some games like Oxygen Not Include have no tutorial or are basic and it's up to you to figure out the intricacies by reading or learning from youtube videos, so no, the game isn't badly designed

[craggy pier]

good for you, next

[green bronze]

this game is overrated or underrated

[topaz anvil]

You just learn stuff, you pick up that the "heart attack" is actually just stamina, and if it changes colour, you know you won't be running as fast

[past mesa]

You don’t need to know most of these things

To play the game and beat every level

Dash doesn’t help you most of the time. Slide isn’t useful for 99% of players

Heart attack is you making shit up in your Brian

It is just stamina and it isn’t expressed the best

[topaz anvil]

Ammo balance really doesn't matter either, a good player would use similar amounts of ammo on both weapons, before being refilled

[past mesa]

yeah special gets more than main you just need to use special more it isn’t something we write down it is just something very obvious to notice in a game about tracking resources

[topaz anvil]

the only thing that does matter in regards to ammo is when you are near cap, you need to have a fully reloaded clip to reach 100% ammo, otherwise you lose some

[past mesa]

Yeah but that difference in ammo is never the reason you wipe in vanilla

[topaz anvil]

but you'll likely lose some anyway from overfilling

[tiny wyvern]

@craggy pier What does the heart attack do again?
Do you know?

[digital mural]

Hackett dies from a heart attack

Expedition failed

[past mesa]

no they just refure to the health bar going yellow

on max stam

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah does he know

what it does?

[past mesa]

no

[topaz anvil]

I told him earlier

[past mesa]

will now tho

[tiny wyvern]

I mean it's more of a convinient indicator more than anything

[digital mural]

Tbh most of the stuff You need for the game you learn it by paying attention

[past mesa]

No it is not a very good indicator

[craggy pier]

yeah it just slows you down and you can't run

[past mesa]

yellow health bar is maybe the worst indicator they could have chosen because it implies something is happening to your health

[digital mural]

Ah yes the "You take more damage" misinfo

[green bronze]

no no

[tiny wyvern]

No it doesn't
It tells you when your stamina is low enough that your melee charge speed and your sprint speed is slowed

[past mesa]

But I would argue this is correct reasoning

[craggy pier]

There are literally loads of people who are shocked by this information, and who thought that the heart attack affected life, BECAUSE THE GAME INDICATES IT, but you insist on saying that it's the player's mistake for thinking that

[topaz anvil]

well ye if its capped you can't run

[tiny wyvern]

You can still run
But you're faster walking

[topaz anvil]

nuh uh

[digital mural]

Bro thats not running

Thats slower than walking

[past mesa]

Yeah this is fair reasoning. But dash slide and everything else

Are so small in their effect

[tiny wyvern]

I mean you use dash on... one occasion?
And slide is more of min maxing

[soft crater]

Minmax :P

[past mesa]

Or they are actively detrimental

[topaz anvil]

do NOT bring up weapon numbers

[digital mural]

Why would You need to dash anyways

Like

Just why

[soft crater]

Idk where this is coming from

[green bronze]

wtf is dash

[topaz anvil]

back in the day, the dash was a convenient way to hide behind a wall 😍

[tiny wyvern]

shift and press directional key

To dash in a direction

[past mesa]

You have shit positioning or you are abusing black hop on max stam

[digital mural]

Walking is faster

[topaz anvil]

a natural progression from minmaxing

[past mesa]

It used to be better

[arctic marten]

im not saying that its bad design to not have a thorough tutorial, but gtfo is pretty heinous when it comes to not explaining shit

[soft crater]

It is what it is.

[digital mural]

Yeah i have heard about it

[tiny wyvern]

I mean I would've wanted a better tutorial more than anything

[past mesa]

GTFO main difficulty is not explaining shit

if they explained everything

[topaz anvil]

[past mesa]

This game wouldn’t be hard

[digital mural]

Wtf do You mean there back damage

-spiff (probably)

[tiny wyvern]

did he actually say that

wow

[soft crater]

Given what sliding does to pulse. If the majority knew what it did exactly would make them try to justify it more

[past mesa]

I mean tbh unless you think damage randomly goes up

[digital mural]

Nah but he didnt know there was back damage

[green bronze]

oh i thought they call it "dodge"

[past mesa]

The only purpose of slide is to get reloads

[topaz anvil]

can't believe spiff's team died just before the end of secondary again 😔

[digital mural]

Theyll get it eventually

[past mesa]

If you watch the wave 2 tank

You will understand

[topaz anvil]

simply skill better 😔

[digital mural]

Tbf that reactor can fuck You good in any moment

[soft crater]

Imean this in the aspect that vanilla. Your pulse is never dead accurate because of fluctuating numbers. But with accurate numbers. || Your pulse gain is paused during slides ||

[past mesa]

Yeah but the thing you don’t get it

Is so small

[soft crater]

But yeah slide tech is better use for it

[past mesa]

like

Pulse gain almost doesn’t matter

[topaz anvil]

only in R6C1 speedruns

[past mesa]

Mainly because if players take shit lines

[topaz anvil]

[soft crater]

Hence I said minmax. I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying ppl will use that fact to justify more

[topaz anvil]

my fingers still hurt remembering about it

[past mesa]

They lose all the steam

[digital mural]

Get better fingers

Duh

[past mesa]

It starts to matter when there is nothing else to optimize

But given better rng

You won’t need to slide

hate to say it

[craggy pier]

You missed the point, cool, it's intuitive for 1 or 2 people, but for most it's not, oh dahs is useless IT DOESN'T MATTER, the question still hasn't been answered, how should players find out about these functions and how it works? because when I'm running and I have a heart attack, I'm in the middle of a mess and an alarm, I literally have no time to see if it's really taking my life or how many milliseconds it affects my speed and attack

[past mesa]

Yeah the heart attack is bad.

but slide and dodge aren’t that big of a deal

Most of the time they actively hurt you

[topaz anvil]

I can almost guarantee that everyone here learned by suffering from something first, then thinking about it after wipe, or talking to people on discord

[digital mural]

Dash uses like 40% of stamina anyways

[soft crater]

Game is fine played without ever dodging / sliding

[past mesa]

Nuggies YouTube guide

is how I learned

[soft crater]

(If you can get through without accidentally dodging that is.

[digital mural]

I learn most of the stuff by just playing

That included the stamina

[topaz anvil]

The game doesn't have to teach you every mechanic

[digital mural]

I learn about the dash in the patch notes

LOL

[soft crater]

Unironically same. I learned most tech from watching nuggies guide and streams

[past mesa]

I think it should teach you all mechanics needed to beat the game

[soft crater]

Outside of other vets

[topaz anvil]

it does

[craggy pier]

I learn everything talking with other guys, i have like: 300hrs of this game and never discovery anything, like heart attack

[past mesa]

Just wait till you discover global reactor wave push

Or scout bombing

or daisy chaining

[soft crater]

Funny part is it still existed before they brought it back with stamina nerf

[past mesa]

yeah it was just even more useless that it is now

[digital mural]

And no one ever talked about it since i joined back in July 2023

Jesus christ

[past mesa]

We did just it was trying to find uses for it

And there was none

every bit of tech was either ping dependent or you could just have better spacing

[soft crater]

After OG R6 essentially removed it. It was like a split second dodge but got speed limited. But that split second could still be dodgejumped off of back then

[topaz anvil]

Stuff like this is meta and an unintended consequence of the way they designed the game tbh xd

[past mesa]

Yeah but once you figured it out for some reason all reactors waves start behaving

[soft crater]

It's very rare someone actually makes good niche uses of Dodge/dodge jumps

[past mesa]

Also spiff died to spawn push

[past mesa]

R7c2 jumps

Are so fucking cool

[soft crater]

[past mesa]

It is a cell hop

3 times

On every side to quick plug cells

Tight as fuck

[upper ginkgo]

honestly I don't know how people clear this game if they live in an information bubble like spiff

[past mesa]

You could beat every level without knowing tech

[upper ginkgo]

I definitely wouldn't have figured out that you can double hit charger scouts

[upper ginkgo]

what's considered tech

not knowing how to reload cancel? sure

[neon gust]

Glowstick tec

[past mesa]

Back damage. Stam management, running

[neon gust]

Pretty unknown

[past mesa]

I will make it hard

[neon gust]

Even among vets

[past mesa]

Perma foam

[upper ginkgo]

not knowing about back dmg sounds pretty detrimental

or how to dodge tongues

[past mesa]

Scatter is in the game

[upper ginkgo]

yeah but you won't live long enough to fire those two shots lol

[green bronze]

tf is that

[tiny wyvern]

Well that's... sadly very common with these types of games

Like too common

It's like the long dark

Or games that don't usually get forthcoming with info like that

[upper ginkgo]

I think that gtfo is a wiki game

[green bronze]

sekiro

[tiny wyvern]

Not rlly
The stats are important

And so are mission details

But not to the extent that it's impossible for you to learn most of the mechanics on your own

(barring misconceptions that happen from time to time)

I still remember being told foaming giants is good though

which i mean...

[upper ginkgo]

I'll never forget foaming a giant in a beginner lobby

as a joke

and then the rest of the newbies followed suit without me saying anything

[neon gust]

Not really

You can easily find a lot by just natural gameplay

Tarkov on the other hand

🤮

Put the usb on your ass a shit it at this random ass coordinates

Thats a true wiki game

But gtfo if you do pay attention

You will.eventually the mechanics

[upper ginkgo]

fair I think I'm overestimating how much knowledge is required to clear the game

and I'm also hard crutching on exploits too

[neon gust]

Like actual in game mechanics.not just exploiting said mechanics or niche speedrun techs

Just the basics

[upper ginkgo]

yeah yeah I understood that

[neon gust]

Everything else its just learning curve

[neon gust]

Nah nah nah

You shall be crucified

😩

In my bed

Ayo

[civic wave]

what's required to scrape by is much lower than what's required to consistently clear

[neon gust]

🫦

[upper ginkgo]

sorry I'll atone by playing helldivers

[neon gust]

Freakdivers

[upper ginkgo]

anti-fun divers

[digital mural]

Omg is that the profesional GTFO player Black Dragon?

[upper ginkgo]

you're not professional unless you can solo hold r4e1 reactor

the warden said so

[neon gust]

I did that before some y'all even played

[digital mural]

You are not professional until You solo E2

[neon gust]

🗣️ill do it rayalots way

[green bronze]

my teammate is using cfoam in a reactor

insane

[neon gust]

Underated tbh

[green bronze]

hes literally delaying waves

...

[neon gust]

Thats literally what cfoam does

[green bronze]

...

[upper ginkgo]

no you're just not shooting the waves

he's an aoe slow caster

[neon gust]

Freezing some smalls in a wave to ley the bigs push trough its nice

[soft kiln]

I had someone cfoam cheese in R5B1 reactor once

[upper ginkgo]

and you're a dps that's not killing

[neon gust]

I dont know how i got that there

[green bronze]

shittt

add me on arknights <3

i love how people decide to install "qol" mods first instead of learning how a fucking tank looks like

[neon gust]

Whats a qol mod that shows a tank???

[upper ginkgo]

don't go elitist on me simon

this isn't the way

[green bronze]

wtf

[green bronze]

ME AND YOU LITERALLY MET THIS GUY IN R4E1 LOBBY

"is this the mom"

[soft kiln]

3 games in a row I saw someone with perfect booster going full provision

very fun experience

[green bronze]

thats my alt btw

[upper ginkgo]

installing qol without knowing what the qol even does is so based

[green bronze]

embed fail

[soft kiln]

im kicking your balls

:)

[upper ginkgo]

sorry you gotta wait in line for that

there's a queue of 15+ people

[green bronze]

can u arrange me a meeting with badger first

want to kiss him so bad

[soft kiln]

can't do he's playing pd3 everyday

absolutely insane

[green bronze]

@uneven gorge do u mind if i long kite

we have no ammo

we will have to long kite

[upper ginkgo]

asking for permission before long kiting

how considerate

[green bronze]

yeah i successfully kited the surge

how insane we only have 2 ammopacks left on the intire r5c2 map

and no tool left

[civic wave]

How can you complain about ammo when you're the machine gun player

[green bronze]

no im using burst cannon to carry dps

[civic wave]

ok GEAR_MACHINE_GUN_BURST

[green bronze]

...

[topaz anvil]

[finite laurel]

anyon able to help im tring to play with my buddy fr the first time and it just says waiting for master everytime we try and join

[digital mural]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1281414730090811503

[sweet falcon]

every time i try to host a lobby my friends cant join and it says "waiting for master".

[tiny wyvern]

You were in the waiting for master thread
That's the same problem other people were having

Take a read and you'll see some solutions

If they don't work ask in the thread

I should be by to answer them... if I can

[digital mural]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1281414730090811503

[reef geyser]

does anyone the font of the gtfo logo(?)

you know the GTFO gtfo word and letter on the icon and banner

are any similar font or is there a gtfo font out there

[ocean spindle]

for the banner- the die together thing- it's fira code, which is a coding font, but share tech is the closest thing to it

for the actual like logo with all the ragged letters no idea tho

i imagine it's a personalized logo instead of a font so

i doubt it has any font similar to it

[light thistle]

Good afternoon, I'm sorry to ask this question here, but will there be a Roguelike mode in GTFO?

[tiny wyvern]

There's a roguelike mod somewhere out there

but outside of that development for the game is done

[light thistle]

Does the game support modifications? Have the developers stopped developing?

[ocean spindle]

the devs stopped the dev cycle yes but there's modding

[digital mural]

Theres mods from the community

[ocean spindle]

#hc-modded

[digital mural]

Modded rundowns, guns, enemies

[ocean spindle]

also randomly generated content exists in mods i think but

idk how it works

and i would not bother rlly

there's plenty mod rundowns to play

[digital mural]

When Will You play occlusion

[ocean spindle]

buy me a pc

[digital mural]

Bet

[lone mortar]

Watch out for that chair!

🪑

[ocean spindle]

chairs

[lone mortar]

Causes a high way car wreck

Chair’d

[digital mural]

Omg Gayser

[light thistle]

Thanks for the answers.

[soft crater]

[safe cradle]

I've the (perhaps wrong) idea that you dont understand what type of game GTFO is...

[soft crater]

Inb4 gtfo Randomizer

[safe cradle]

Still NOT a roguelike?

Doesn't a roguelike imply also upgrades and whatnot

[digital mural]

GTFO as a rougelike would suck

Like

[safe cradle]

or loot

[past mesa]

Tbh gtfo rouge like

Would go hard

[safe cradle]

It's... just NOT roguelike

[soft crater]

Lore wise it would fit. Each run is just a different worldline or smth

[past mesa]

You have to do 4 levels

Only weapons or upgrades you find in a b c and d can be used in the next level

Health and ammo is maintained.

[safe cradle]

I mean you could re-purpose the artifacts

[past mesa]

Secrets ending is an e tier

[safe cradle]

so every 3 artifacts you get the random boosters and it applies on the go

[past mesa]

Weapons

Are unlocks

[safe cradle]

and it stay towards subsequent expeditions

[safe cradle]

no

none of that stuff

roguelike means you and the enemies get stronger

I know that scattergun is better than short rifle or whatever meme gun but that ain't the point

Think like the roguelike modes in some Hoyo games

basically that just toned down so it doesn't become Kazuha steamrolling simulator

[soft crater]

Ppl actually play hoyo roguelike.

[digital mural]

Comparing GTFO to gacha games
How low has its fallen

[digital mural]

All of them sucks

They suck so bad

[safe cradle]

It's the closest example I can think of roguelike AND popular

[soft crater]

I would've mentioned like Remnant from the ashes

[digital mural]

no comments

💀

[soft crater]

Probably not as popular you'd like.

[safe cradle]

Beyond the point... I mentioned that and it applies

[soft crater]

There are more better known roguelikes out there.

[soft crater]

There are just better examples

[safe cradle]

Point is that you usually dont get "access to a better weapon" but more like "+10% main damage"

If all you boil it down is that

What's the point

that's bleak as fuck

No offense

[soft crater]

Depends how the game is set up.

[digital mural]

when someone says rougelike i think like Darkest Dungeon

not Hoyo awfully designed stuff

[safe cradle]

I think that it's ok for "fun" modes not to be balanced

Yay, +40% dmg on my Pistol

[digital mural]

+100% fire rate for the pistol

[safe cradle]

It'd be fun with a randomized map

[soft crater]

Hm

I never thought of zzz's dungeon system to be considered a rogue-lite

[safe cradle]

It's randomized to an extent, you get powerup and whatnot...

There's even traps

[soft crater]

If it helps sleepo.

[safe cradle]

It's certanly closer to roguelike than just mixing GTFO's maps

[soft crater]

A sentry that targets players and sleepers. Does exist.

[safe cradle]

Tomoko always helps

[soft crater]

Next to defensive walls like the call of duty ones

Which never made the final cut

[safe cradle]

🤔

Just remembered about another example of roguelite if we want an FPS

[soft crater]

There's other things as well

[safe cradle]

there's Nightmare Reaper or whatever it was called

That's also "fun".

And the weapons you get have random stats and stuff

Like expl ammo or whatnot, it has been a long time I played it...

It gets boring after a while

[soft crater]

Though a Rogue-Like for GTFO Randomizer

I can see it being entirely possible

[safe cradle]

Yes

[soft crater]

Rogue-lite GTFO would likely be builds/boosters and etc

Which would need a bit more but it's whatever

[safe cradle]

You could finally give meaning to doing PE, you get an extra booster or whatever

[halcyon current]

Rogue like gtfo but the boosters you get infinitely stack and you'll eventually be 100 percent resistant to infection, projectile, and melee attacks

[safe cradle]

...wouldn't that be VERY hard? Even with 1 booster per map per player?

Unless you do like 10 maps

[soft crater]

It would likely be balanced to smaller numbers until you hit caps or enemies just get stronger

[halcyon current]

Probably, but this is all hypothetical anyway

[safe cradle]

I guess his point is that those work on the damage taken by % so it doesn't matter if the giant or the charger hit me, I'll take 0 damage with 100% reduction

[soft crater]

It would like be more akin to upgrading your boosters for higher values or maybe rerolling them

Not that inf power fantasy jake

[halcyon current]

Hey man

To me roguelike means hell upfront

Crazy power fantasy back end

[safe cradle]

I agree

But 100% resistance is too much

I guess you can streamline the amount of stuff gained

Like you gain 1 "booster" every sector completed

you've 6 slots BUT they're all of the lower booster tier

so worse case scenario... I think muted dmg taken reduction go to 12% so it'd be 72%?

[soft crater]

Tbf. I say power fantasy Jake in that it's not gtfo anymore at that point and just a perfect booster run

Custom boosters even

[safe cradle]

I'll say one thing... it'd perhaps be fun?

[soft crater]

GTFO boosters weren't exactly balanced in getting maxed values and beyond

[safe cradle]

I DO get the urge sometimes to install that mod and try it so I can try +200% damage Arbalist or whatever 🤣

Mayhaps just because I'm getting bored

[soft crater]

15 dmg arby

[safe cradle]

I'd do a joke but I'd get banned

[halcyon current]

Oh nah what I'm talking about is way beyond both tbh

I want infinitely stacking values to where you could hypothetically one shot Pablo lmao

I'm talking like

Hour and a half RoR2 run power levels

[soft crater]

Idk it's just ppl will often times throw buffs and boosters around not expecting a balance or limit

[halcyon current]

The way I see roguelike GTFO is like this

The boosters you find on the group are actually just boosters

[soft crater]

Ror2 has mechanics to reach those power levels earlier though

[halcyon current]

If you wanna use Artifact of Command that's on you, I think it makes runs less fun

[soft crater]

I never said anything about Artifact of command jake

[halcyon current]

Then I'm unsure what you're referring to tbh, Void,

Shop?

[soft crater]

Proc chains / trimping/ item interactions pairings

Character gimmicks

[halcyon current]

You'll have to forgive me, I know about TF2 trimping

Not RoR2

[halcyon current]

Bandits general existence

[soft crater]

Desperado stacking

Rex being shit in Eclipse 8

(Perma dmg/-50% healing) this hurts Rex's base kit in general

[halcyon current]

I'm ngl I don't think desperado is that good

I prefer the base kit ult resets, especially for longer runs

[soft crater]

It's because ppl stack it until it just one shots the bosses regardless of progression

[halcyon current]

I mean you can but like 9 crowbars and some other shit and you'll do that anyway yk?

[soft crater]

The point is Jake. It's not a item. That's just the character gimmick itself

Bandit doesn't need items to do that

[halcyon current]

Ask you something?

Why do you always refer to me by name?

[soft crater]

[halcyon current]

And no I agree, Bandit starts with 10 Glasses as long as you're shooting things in the back lmao, he is conceptually busted

[soft crater]

You set up your discord as JakeOhLantern

[halcyon current]

Yes

That's not my ask

It'd be like if I called you Sol in convo, I'm not asking you how you know it, I'm asking you why you do it

[soft crater]

Being direct?

[halcyon current]

Acceptable answer

[soft crater]

And ror2 trimping

Iirc Rex/merc can insta kill that one orb you can kill for a legendary

After destroying the eggs around the map

[halcyon current]

Oh yeah yeah

[soft crater]

Merc with dashes / Rex with ult iirc

[halcyon current]

I just never called that trimping

You can shove it into the killbox

You can do it with jellyfish too iirc

Anything that's not like "anchored"

[soft crater]

My memory is broken but

Trimping is the ramped surfaces Merc(i forgot who else can do this) can use to just be sent flying with whirlwind

I forget the name ppl use for doing physical interaction causing enemy insta death

[halcyon current]

It's a lot of inconsistent angle abuse until you get something that just let's you dash repeatedly

Like afterburner

Once you like, have dashes you can repeat on merc you can actually just shove stuff around

I'm not sure it had a name tbh

I always just called it killbox abuse

I find it difficult to do like, consistently tho

I think Loader can do it too, but Loader can also one shot everything anyway

[soft crater]

Me trying to get plasma shrimp the last 10 runs

But game is like No

It kept giving the corrupted Dio

[halcyon current]

I love Shrimp so much ngl

The sound it makes is so pleasing

[soft crater]

And the corrupted Band that ruins the 2 bands

[halcyon current]

I actually like that depending on character

[soft crater]

It's nice but overall weaker

Given if your character has like no cc

[halcyon current]

I think it works the more aoe death you have

I really like it on uhhhh

Void Fiend with the beam hand

It also works pretty well on merc ngl

Cause you can shift reset through thr horde repeatedly and it's hard to proc the other 2 with him anyway

[soft crater]

I would agree but Blackhole exists and can just be fuel celled

[halcyon current]

See, I'd rather the Missiles

The missile backpack active is simply my favorite lmao

[soft crater]

It's nice with ICBM

[halcyon current]

It's just nice. With the shells you can just have a brainless way to apply on hits while everything else you do is more involved, like it on Merc a lot

[finite oracle]

does each fully charged bat hit stagger a giant no matter where you hit at?

[silent delta]

yes*

[finite oracle]

can the same thing be said about hammer/spear?

[digital mural]

for a giant you need to hit the limbs to stagger it or the head

[soft crater]

Bat has a higher stagger multiplier than Hammer and Spear but lower base dmg

[finite oracle]

ok

[past mesa]

To back yes but breaking a limb offers longer stagger than the light stagger either way

[finite oracle]

ok

[somber adder]

LIFT TAKING FOREVER

[ocean spindle]

we see u it's ok

i responded u don't have to put it across all chats

either someone's taking 20 mins to load cause slow machine

or try again

[manic island]

Hi all! I just downloaded GTFO and tried it for the first time, unfortunately i keep having mini lag spikes that cut my audio which doesnt come back unless i close the game. I have upgraded my RAM to 32gigs and updated GPU driver. Is there anything else i can do to fix this problem?

[digital mural]

#1049599987878723635

[manic island]

yeah i posted my question and looked there but i cant find a relevant older post to help

google hasnt been much help either

[past mesa]

Yeah google won’t really help

Can you run the game well

Cause this game is pretty brutal to computers.

[manic island]

for the most part yes, but then i have a small lag spike and suddenly the audio is gone

[past mesa]

Do you open and close the map a lot

Or alt tab?

[manic island]

nah i was just going through the tutorial, walked up to a door then lag

[past mesa]

okay well it might be the game can’t run on your shit then

Ik you can lag out your sound with the map or alt tabbing

but idk about without that

[manic island]

i have all the system requirements that the steam page says i need

[past mesa]

Ngl

I just looked at the requirements

And it is really really funny

[past mesa]

I think that used to be how the game was in EA

Ever since 1.0 it has been a decent amount more taxing than what they suggest

At least for anything above 30 Frames on full lowest settings

[manic island]

do you know what the current requirements are to run the game or where i can find that info?

seems like the requirements shown in discord are the same as steam

[soft crater]

required specs mean practically nothing if the game is unoptimized

[manic island]

is it that badly optimized? i waited till after EA to try an avoid all that

[past mesa]

I mean

The recommended specs are kinda not very modern

Idk if you could optimize the game with those specs for 60 fps on the lightning engine no matter what

solace look at the specs

[soft crater]

if it helps. I'm a active GTFO player with basically right at Min specs

idk cpu wise

[past mesa]

no way

Zero chance

[soft crater]

but gpu wise. it's 1030

[past mesa]

Did you look at the specs

[soft crater]

I have a 1050 (Laptop version)

[past mesa]

They are suggesting a 660 gpu solace

Wait nvm

I am on bad spruce

[manic island]

so is there anything i can do? i mean its not like i have a bad computer, its not the most modern but its not ancient

i have a 3060

[past mesa]

That is way above specs sorry

I thought you were implying you were matching specs

[past mesa]

Have you downloaded or played the game before?

[manic island]

no first try today

[manic island]

nah nah i just dont know much about my pc so i had to ask my husband XD

hence why its so weird that im having these issues

he thought it might be ram since that was the least updated part of my pc but even after getting an upgrade its still a problem

[last bison]

does anyone know what the small red dots on the bio scanner mean?

or are they just glitched markers?

[ocean spindle]

its enemies- it's just a bug with the spawning for saving memory

there's a fix in the modding community i believe

cuz it can make scouts not pingable

[last bison]

ohhh thx ❤️

[ocean spindle]

it's okeeee

[silent delta]

if you get the bug, just know that they are supposed to be white dots

[past mesa]

Maybe try lowering the specs and closing some background apps

[manic island]

just finished trying that even capping FPS at 60

thank you for trying, if i dont get any responses in the tech support ill probably just get a refund

[tiny wyvern]

Um I just woke up what the hell happened

[frail heart]

I would recommend looking at the game optimisation guide(s) by voidspace

[tiny wyvern]

that or running a dxdiag

Usually that makes things apparent if it's not a game issue

And i can't think of much this game can do that would do that

[ebon horizon]

hey guys, me and a friend are trying to do R8A2s secondary, but we just can't access it

what should be a bulkhead door is just a standard sec door and it doesnt unlock with the command on the hidden terminal

you know anything about that?

[tiny wyvern]

You gone too far into main

The moment you checkpoint and get into that zone

Is when you get the code in

[ebon horizon]

thats what we did

[tiny wyvern]

Well did you get the right code in

[ebon horizon]

we entered the eval_init command

[tiny wyvern]

And type the command?

[ebon horizon]

nothing happened, lockdown sec door

[tiny wyvern]

Did you reset a couple times before that happened

Like did you reset your mission

[ebon horizon]

no reset

all in one go

[tiny wyvern]

Did the command return any response?

It should

[ebon horizon]

we tried twice, usually we play with mods and we tried without in case some QoL mods we got broke anything

nah we typed the command and nothing happened

but the terminal didnt say command not recognized or something like that

it was in the list

[tiny wyvern]

Well either you found the wrong term or you typed it in wrong
Or you term bugged

[ebon horizon]

i'll try again

i reset to checkpoint, entered the command

it said executing command until 100%

thats all

it is how it's supposed to go?

[tiny wyvern]

Give me a few, I'll be with you

[tardy ingot]

@ebon horizon are you at the actual secondary bulkhead door in the first zone or the one in the zone where you input the eval_init

[ebon horizon]

right now im in front of the hidden terminal

id have to go download the keys all around to go further

but everytime i got to the door it was a lockdown sec door

no bulkhead

[tardy ingot]

earlier in the level…

first zone

You missed the door

[frail heart]

In the first zone there’s secondary bulkhead

[ebon horizon]

oh my

are we this dumb

goodness

we are

thing is right before extraction there is another door that leads to a zone 70

so we thought it was this one

[tiny wyvern]

So you just... missed the damn door to sec

[ebon horizon]

yes

[tiny wyvern]

Oh come on

[ebon horizon]

yes

[tiny wyvern]

It's a bulkhead door

wtf

[ebon horizon]

because we were sure it was supposed to be a door right next to extract

well problem solved

thank you guys

[tardy ingot]

Look at the zone nrs on doors
And explore all rooms before continuing unless under threat

[ebon horizon]

we usually do explore everything

it was just one door we never bothered to

it is a recurring theme during our playthrough with my pal that we are just blind

extremely blind

[tiny wyvern]

btw is r8a2 solo with bots a good idea

[civic wave]

Don't think so

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah I thought so
Do they even shoot at immortal

Actually nevermind, they probs won't even aggro on him

[ocean spindle]

the immortal can attack them but i think they don't shoot it

but u don't even have to do anything with that

the entire issue is more so foam, cuz u cant in the alarm or u don't have enough for the rest, and the run back

which is like kinda way too hard

is one of those things i think r easier full solo cuz u can kite freely and have foam boosters

[civic wave]

Boss kill too, and the 4 scouts

[ocean spindle]

while with bots even with the boosters u gotta re-add them for the scans

[ocean spindle]

boss kill rlly isn't that bad tho

i mean ur bots can go down

but it's a rlly easy enemy anyways

[civic wave]

Fighting a tank on flat ground with no support

[ocean spindle]

ah

u meant that

[civic wave]

Handily doable but still miserable

[ocean spindle]

yeah i mean it's just kinda letting the bots die and rushing tank if u can
is more of just a solo tank than anything

that goes for every other enemy like that

[simple briar]

Hey guys! Do you know why some players have their names in yellow? I usually see players with green, blue, pink and purple

[pastel verge]

it's modded

[digital mural]

Funny mods

[simple briar]

lol

ok, ty

[tardy ingot]

tbf you can get flat ground, just clear mom blood door first

[shy barn]

how do you move

please answer quick the monsters are coming

[cedar loom]

guys when i launch gtfo i get network error: no connection

what shud i do

[past mesa]

Go to Sweden report the bug

[icy cave]

Try looking in #1049599987878723635

[safe cradle]

Left the server

Perhaps pirate copy?

[hard nexus]

Probably

[icy cave]

Probably, most of the time it's a pirated issue

[lone mortar]

sleeeeeeepooooooooo

[finite oracle]

what is the r5e1 cell skip and how does it work?

[lone mortar]

you take cell from class III door

but you keep going from there on

not touching any of the first zones (required to turn off the error)

fight mom zone & tank zone

[finite oracle]

doesnt that make it much harder?

[errant dome]

ya

people do it either for speedrunning or extra challenge for fun

or both sometimes

[lone mortar]

well

you save a ton of time

like

a ton of time

[errant dome]

i wish there was an acheivment for it

such a missed oppurtunity i feel

[civic wave]

an achievement for r6d1 reactor skip and r7e1 brazil skip could also be there i guess

[lone mortar]

well

[civic wave]

brazil skip funny

[lone mortar]

seeing that ppl like @tardy ingot already broke R7D1

its likely just a community thing to do

various skips

[finite oracle]

how do you skip reactor on r6d1?

[lone mortar]

you fight alarm

you dont do any side zones leading to reactors

[civic wave]

nothing stops you from immediately doing the class 6 alarm on cehckpoint door

[lone mortar]

you just get down there and do class VI

[civic wave]

it's a bit rough with the fog

[finite oracle]

wait so

[lone mortar]

kinda easy to do with close up weapons

[finite oracle]

can you just go down there at the start of the game

[lone mortar]

but you fall off tryna fight kraken

[finite oracle]

and just instantly do the door

[lone mortar]

theres this thing called stairs

very helpful

[errant dome]

Well idk if it was intended as an option or not (specifically talking about r5e1 btw) but the devs should be aware of it by now and its not like its abusing some bug or oob either so I personally feel they couldve just turned it into an achievement for those who want extra challenge, just my take on it tho

[lone mortar]

you think they do this just for 12% of the active players

and 4% that do this regularly

but yes i feel you on the "them mfs need a medal" thing

it does make a difference

[errant dome]

i mean ya thats pretty much what i mean + it also gives people who may want an extra challenge but dont look at the discord another way of finding out about it (through steam achievements)

[safe cradle]

yes

In that room I'm pretty sure enemies always spawn on the top floor while you do the scans

[strange jolt]

dont they spawn a floor away from you, not just above?

so you could get bottom/top spawns when you start at the middle, and only get middle spawns while youre at the bottom

someone correct me on that jic

[tiny wyvern]

Can't follow, which scan?

[strange jolt]

"Scan 6" r6d1

[tiny wyvern]

The surge team scan for gate portal?

[strange jolt]

the set scan locations one

is it a surge? doesnt feel like it

but yes, before portal

[tiny wyvern]

Oh that one

Well they always spawn up top

At least that's what I remember

Usually when i do bio there I only scan them coming down
But I'm known to be blind sometimes
So I might be wrong

[lone mortar]

Haiii sado

[safe cradle]

I'm 99% sure when I do that alarm they spawn above, top floor, same room

[strange jolt]

tested it and youre correct

they spawn on the edge of the staircase on the top floor

either side

no matter where you are

[cinder lance]

should i be using my scattergun more for the sake of filling up ammo from ammo bags?
sometimes giants arent around and so it's mostly stocked while my hel revolver is low
niche but it's powerful

[civic wave]

you can (and should) absolutely be firing scattergun into groups of small enemies for the purposes of ammo balancing

[tiny wyvern]

it's not only a giant killer after all

Unlike sniper it can crowd clear

Just make sure that you understand that the cone is large

And your teamates are squishy

[digital mural]

scattergun is good at killing waves too

[errant dome]

just try to not also kill your team along the way

speaking from experience here

[tiny wyvern]

Scatters a 'sleeper'
turns out it was sleepo

[errant dome]

funny u say that cause i think everytime i was in a lobby with sleepo i was running scatter lmao

tho i havent shot him... i think, i have goldfish memory so who knows

[cinder lance]

their life for democracy the company 💪

[silent delta]

WE WILL BE VALUABLE ASSETS TO THE COMPANY

[tiny wyvern]

Don't they literally take your ship away from you when you miss one callback

[carmine crescent]

Is the choke mod any good?

Is there any circumstance in which I should take it over another shotgun?

[sturdy glen]

no

[noble sierra]

If you hate a charger scout

[sturdy glen]

every niche it has is overtaken by already better guns

[keen path]

only if you like choking

[upper ginkgo]

can we name one use case for choke mod where it's the best option

[native sun]

For close range mag dump boss DPS it has been massively superseded by scattergun.

For long range giant/boss kill with some utility into smalls it has been superseded by BC, and BC is generally solid enough in close range DPS as well.

[noble sierra]

Charger scout facing you, 16 meters away, facing you, 10+ babies in between. And you need to kill the charger scout right now.

[sturdy glen]

burst cannon

[keen path]

getting "Close Quarters" achievement and reliably not getting shot at by teammates with scatter

[upper ginkgo]

true !

[noble sierra]

"16 meters away"

[native sun]

Why would 16m matter

[noble sierra]

BC dropped off

starts from 15m

[native sun]

But it has 22 damage

It's dealing 20 damage out to 20.9m

And are you really hitting enough choke mod at 20m to kill

[strange jolt]

guys what if i specifically need to hit a striker for x damage from x meters away and also its facing me and all of my other teammates special weapons aren't realoaded

[noble sierra]

Them I can't think of a choke mod single best situation.

[upper ginkgo]

tbf i did say to name one use case where choke mod is the best option

so people are free to make up whatever scenario

[carmine crescent]

Does it one shot charger scouts to the front?

[strange jolt]

dont care, i cant read

[upper ginkgo]

my bad, keep flaming

[sturdy glen]

I wonder if you can shove cancel hel rifle perfect enough to front kill a cscout

[upper ginkgo]

shove cancel to shoot fast enough to double tap cscout?

[sturdy glen]

yea

[upper ginkgo]

how long is the stagger anim anyway

maybe with latency it's super doable

[strange jolt]

i think thats more of a ping question no?

[sturdy glen]

you can get it pretty fast

it might always be doable

[upper ginkgo]

wake up babe new skill expression

[ocean spindle]

yes

30 dmg guns

but choke is so spammable

u can just click twice

technically not a oneshot but- it's the same thing

[carmine crescent]

So just double shoot as quick as possible

[past mesa]

Yeah

[carmine crescent]

How much time do I have until it wakes up

[ocean spindle]

like uh 0.1 seconds but it's RLLY easy to do tbh

just spam ur click and if ur unsure magdump 4 shells into it

[past mesa]

A lot of time

Just break a limb

[upper ginkgo]

definitely not 0.1 seconds if you can double tap cscouts with like 3 cps

[ocean spindle]

oh yeah scouts can be staggered

i completely forgot

[carmine crescent]

Bruh wut

I had no idea

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[past mesa]

Have you seen the bread clip

[ocean spindle]

nope

[upper ginkgo]

"the bread clip"

there's a bajillion of them

[past mesa]

#gtfo-media message

The funny charger scout stagger

that lasts like 5 seconds or longer vox

[ocean spindle]

lol yeah

i seen it with hel shotgun i think

it just works weird

but yeah u either way don't need that stagger for chokemod

[green bronze]

voxy...

[past mesa]

He won’t ping you stop trying

[green bronze]

you did ping me

[upper ginkgo]

omg hiiii simon sweetie~~~

[green bronze]

Koko is so mid btw

[digital mural]

@green bronze

[green bronze]

lock your door tight tonight

[digital mural]

Why

Are You going to visit me?

[green bronze]

yeah

on a random ass day

[digital mural]

:D

Yipeeeeeee

[green bronze]

r7e1 when

[digital mural]

Why are You so mean

[green bronze]

idk I like sending random ass shit

[digital mural]

Why You don't send deez

Gottem

[past mesa]

Very weird post

[sturdy glen]

pretty average tbh

[digital mural]

I have seen worst in this server

[past mesa]

Fine….. you win….. you can have my kid.

[digital mural]

What the fuck

[sturdy glen]

yea that shit is getting donated

anyways

[past mesa]

Have you not seen the funny post

[digital mural]

Yes

I have

[past mesa]

well then this is a great reference

although I leave out the insane racism part of it

[green bronze]

wtf is that

what did I miss

[past mesa]

No idea

[digital mural]

The usual

[past mesa]

Women(bread)

Money

R7e1 time

[green bronze]

fucking true

[past mesa]

All things I am missing

[digital mural]

Just find them

?

[green bronze]

you are missing what I'm missing

[green bronze]

life is not r1a1

it isn't easy

[digital mural]

It is if You make it easy

Run wemod

Cheat in real life

[green bronze]

lfg gf cheat mods

[shy barn]

why do the sleepers have such huge cake

[lusty canyon]

How do yo ujoin someone using the ID? The one in the run down?

[arctic marten]

copy it to your clipboard and a button will appear on the rundown screen to join

[deep crane]

Hi everyone i wondering if there a gtfo weapon stat sheet somewhere?

[tiny wyvern]

Exactly what stats do you need

Tru has all of them, but he's not around rn

[deep crane]

damage/ammo
damage fallofff? etc

[arctic marten]

mine is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CC_lsObUbvp7FrGt-MtQrcFvKQGsQ1FRLxIsREG6tu0/edit?gid=1423346086#gid=1423346086

and some other guy's is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit?usp=sharing

theres another one somewhere

[deep crane]

whoa yup this is it

thanks!

[strange jolt]

yours is better

[arctic marten]

take that haters, i got my monthly compliment 😎

[frail heart]

👏👏👏

[cinder lance]

how is hel revo? i hear high 'praisal though don't know if im using it right. feels similar to dmr but more epic cqc encounters
also what could you tell me about hel gun and hel rifle? please 😏

[hardy grotto]

u just click heads with hel revo

its high skill ceiling gun

and the reload cancel on it is rlly strong

[grizzled patrol]

The closest we have to railguns

[cinder lance]

used to not be a fan of reload canceling, tho eventually warmed up on vermintide. how do u reload cancel

[hardy grotto]

when you reload hel revo look at your mag number and see when it goes to 8

[cinder lance]

sounds likea freaky time

[hardy grotto]

and then you swap to like anything else

[cinder lance]

gotcha

[hardy grotto]

hel gun and hel rifle are also just strong pen weapons

hel gun probs best compared to a revo with bigger mag, but it also does more damage and is a way better matchup for many more enemies than just smalls

hel rifle has more pen and fires slower but does a lot more damage so your shots matter a fair bit more

[cinder lance]

regular revo?

[hardy grotto]

ye

hel gun has pen as well ofc

[cinder lance]

nice. i heard that one is good for hitting heads, though there are better competiton

yeah it looks like all hel guns have pen lol (haven't used the auto pistol)

[hardy grotto]

basically any weapon with hel in the name is gonna be good, hel auto pistol is the only exception as its kind of a gimmicky weapon

but it isnt terrible

[cinder lance]

yeah something like stagger right

[hardy grotto]

ye

[cinder lance]

idk why but i imagine it like a nailgun with a slow projectile lol

so hel gun is pretty versatile and hel rifle is a more pack a punch but slightly more punishing if u miss

[tardy ingot]

Its also good

Just not that good

[cinder lance]

i was gonna say "medicore?", but i think niche fits it better

[tardy ingot]

Its above average

its good, but niche

[cinder lance]

noted

👀 ** **

[signal cobalt]

Hi guys
I have a question
When I use MED Efficiency, I can heal more for me and my allies, right?

Or if I have Boost on, when my teammates heal me, will I receive more health?

Thanks a lot

[tardy ingot]

1st

[cinder lance]

i like having a giant slayer so like scattergun, tho i'll keep an eye out for the hels when i wanna spice it up

they sound pretty cool. thx for the info all 👍

[twin terrace]

burst cannon is also pretty neat

[cinder lance]

oh yeah i forgot about that weapon

it's just a burst that hits rlly hard right?

[twin terrace]

yeah

3 burst

[fierce walrus]

rip 5 burst, forever in our hearts

[cinder lance]

epic

sounds like it's more forgiving to use on hordes than scattergun

[sturdy glen]

(its not)

[cinder lance]

spoilers 😢 (oh alright lol)

[sturdy glen]

scatter is insanely busted

so its not cuz BC is bad

[snow flower]

Is the burst rifle any good?

[tiny wyvern]

Define 'good'

Genuinely

Cause that metric determines whether or not my answer is going to satisfactory for you

[snow flower]

Quick dispatching of smaller enemies

[tiny wyvern]

Sort of

[snow flower]

If it matters, I use the precision rifle as special weapon

[tiny wyvern]

Um giants

How do you deal with them

[snow flower]

Precision rifle

[green bronze]

true

[snow flower]

And focus fire from teammates

[green bronze]

i also use it for giants

[grizzled patrol]

Good, but outclassed by other options

[tiny wyvern]

Um that's... well, pres rifle sucks at damage once weak points are gone

So that's going to be fun

[snow flower]

What would you suggest otherwise?

[tiny wyvern]

Anything else rlly

Carbine

[snow flower]

That's why it's full auto :3

[tiny wyvern]

Eh

It's like using burst pistol

Using burst rifle

You don't do as much damage as you hope against the things that matter most

And you get shit on by crowds

Like if you need to hold a six spawn error

[snow flower]

What would be recommended for crowd control?

[fierce walrus]

burst rifle is so much better than burst pistol tho, is it not?

[tiny wyvern]

Yes

It has better falloff and acurracy

And it doesn't suck when you empty your full mag

[fierce walrus]

also what the fuck happened to your name

[tiny wyvern]

And see everything still alive

Oh I'm back in the UK

So um... Yeah

[fierce walrus]

on main slot? Prolly stuff like carbine, hel shotty if you learn to use it

[ocean spindle]

prec rifle is not a bad weapon it's just not made for bigs

but u have 3 other people

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah

[ocean spindle]

3 other people can have guns for bigs

[snow flower]

Noted

[tiny wyvern]

Unless you're soloing something on your own

It's fine

Most guns are fine in that regard

[snow flower]

What's the general consensus on the PDW?

[tiny wyvern]

Machine pistol with less ammo

[fierce walrus]

unless you need the thermal, dont take it

[tiny wyvern]

And really bad sight picture

[ocean spindle]

it's fine lil weak but thermal

[snow flower]

We only do 4stack

[fierce walrus]

if you want a good full auto just use Heavy SMG

[ocean spindle]

it's rlly not that terrible just very short rangey

[ocean spindle]

or smg

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[tiny wyvern]

I mean it has longer range than machine p

And that's good enough for most things

[ocean spindle]

i still use pdw for thermals tho

[snow flower]

So common opinion is carbine?

[tiny wyvern]

Not rlly

[fierce walrus]

Carbine or hel shotty yeah

[ocean spindle]

usually yes or hel revo

or hel shotty

[native sun]

Sawed off

[snow flower]

So many conflicting opinions

[tiny wyvern]

Oh no

[ocean spindle]

right that's good too

[tiny wyvern]

Don't start

[fierce walrus]

For crowd control?

[fierce walrus]

just try each weapon till you find one that you like

[ocean spindle]

generally just semis function well for that as long as u use it well

[ocean spindle]

yeah

4 shots many pellets u can do a lot

like a mini scattergun

[fierce walrus]

Hm i guess

[native sun]

Is it still a crowd after 4 of them are dead?
Sawed off.

[ocean spindle]

4 dead and 7 damaged in the background

[ocean spindle]

also what?

what do u mean not rlly

[tiny wyvern]

Oh the common opinion

Like you saw, its... complicated

[ocean spindle]

is it

[tiny wyvern]

I mean I use machine pistol

[ocean spindle]

is it rlly kdmskdm

i mean i do too

but one thing is having like ur own preferences which i do

but still see the funny cool weapons as what they r

[tiny wyvern]

But there is a meta sorta kinda

[ocean spindle]

:b

yeah

[tiny wyvern]

There's like five weapons on main

And another three or so on special?

[snow flower]

Guh

[ocean spindle]

specials are so more like one

scattergun

[tiny wyvern]

Actually there's scatter, hel rifle, hel gun

[ocean spindle]

and the rest it's good depending on

[snow flower]

Why is this so complicated

[ocean spindle]

gtfo is a hard game :3