gtfo-related-questions

[silent delta]

spoken like a coward

[turbid horizon]

lowered prec mod, 150 dmgish

So it still one shot’s hyburds from front

But it doesn’t 2 shot mom

[silent delta]

unusable

nerf sniper

[past mesa]

yup

i agree

[turbid horizon]

My sniper is buffed from pre-R8 version

it has like 15 to the 12

[silent delta]

man pre r8 was fucking fine

[turbid horizon]

Bullets

[silent delta]

maybe the recoil nerf was ok

[turbid horizon]

It’s better pre-R8

my sniper is

[past mesa]

pre r8 scatter

[turbid horizon]

just 3 more bullets, because I made the rundown for my friends originally, and he liked R6 sniper

[past mesa]

already was one of the best

guns

in the gamme

by a long shot

[turbid horizon]

so I compromised because R6 sniper was op

[past mesa]

ngl

[silent delta]

r8 balance changes were very silly

[past mesa]

NGL

r6 sniper

[silent delta]

what did they even do to r6 sniper

i wasnt around

[past mesa]

is not even that good

[turbid horizon]

18 boolet

Instead of 12

[silent delta]

thats it?

just bigger reserve?

[past mesa]

BUT LIterally dak

IT NEEDS THAT

it has

[turbid horizon]

true

[civic wave]

r6 sniper got like

[turbid horizon]

Ig my 15 is nice

[civic wave]

as much bullets as shotgun

[past mesa]

no wave clear protentional

[civic wave]

which is funny

[silent delta]

huh

[past mesa]

incorrect

[silent delta]

that does sound strong

[past mesa]

incorrect

[silent delta]

what ive heard makes it sound like the broke the hell out of it

[past mesa]

chok got 8

sniper got 6

incorrect

6 != 8

[civic wave]

probably an eva exaggeration that i have carried forward

[turbid horizon]

But like imagine how busted it would’ve been with that one patch they made in February

R6 sniper plus uncapped tumors

[past mesa]

yeah but current sniper state ngl

needs uncapped damage

[turbid horizon]

Yeah

Just fucking revert it to R6 10cc i beg you

[turbid horizon]

But uncapped damage breaks a bunch of other shit

[past mesa]

yeah

[turbid horizon]

so plz not that again

or just idk

[past mesa]

MAYBE

[turbid horizon]

Make it a toggle

[past mesa]

WE COULD have

just

[silent delta]

make it one shot in the clip and reduce the reload by like 80%

[past mesa]

MADE TANK AND MOM DAMAGE

Not headshot

[turbid horizon]

:3

[past mesa]

x5 dependdent

MAYBE

[turbid horizon]

At least PR does good vs mom and dad

i found out Occy PR could one-mag mom

And I was very confused

Then i remembered the x5

Also I finally got to fight the vanilla empress 2 days ago and it was honestly pretty cool

Except for the part where the checkpoint stuck the person who joined late in the wall

[silent delta]

immense skill issue

[turbid horizon]

Yeah

[upper ginkgo]

10cc fixes mom hit boxes in r8 only to break them with demom 😔

[turbid horizon]

it was pretty good for our first attempts

[past mesa]

10cc fixed hitboxes

because of the dmom

[turbid horizon]

jish

Do I want to know why you call it Dmom

[silent delta]

dickmom

[past mesa]

DEMON

[silent delta]

like dickbutt but better

[past mesa]

DEMOM

[turbid horizon]

Oh ok

[past mesa]

it is

very clear naming

[silent delta]

i like my version better

[turbid horizon]

That’s cool

[past mesa]

isntead of the video game

MEGA MOM

XD

[upper ginkgo]

mom -> pmom -> dmom

[past mesa]

it looks good

[turbid horizon]

i called it empress or matriarch

[silent delta]

she mom on my pmom till i dmom

[turbid horizon]

if we make a bigger mom

We call it bmom

[upper ginkgo]

Empress is cool but I like the casual naming of the enemies

tank, mom, dog

[silent delta]

WHY

is MF BANNED

WHY IS IT ILLEGAL

ANSWER ME AUTOMOD

[past mesa]

motherfuckers

[silent delta]

:(

[turbid horizon]

i liked when that happened with my mod

Only enemy named by a squad was my tank with BBC ai

[civic wave]

good thing i swapped pfp

[turbid horizon]

I’d called it the BBT, but someone started calling it battletank

[civic wave]

otherwise demom could have a different meaning i guess

i mean not really but you know

[upper ginkgo]

when a non-gtfo player hears me comm "we need to kill mom"

[turbid horizon]

honestly

i wonder what like

My hallmates at college thought

Especially during birther takedowns

No matter what you call a baby striker, saying to kill it will sound TERRIBLE

[upper ginkgo]

we need to kill the rascals

nah

[turbid horizon]

Nobody better call them rascals

[upper ginkgo]

we need to kill the rats

even worse name

[turbid horizon]

yeah it’s either gonna sound bad to us or to the people listening

ig saying “focus babies” isn’t too bad

[past mesa]

i think

gaming

is a popular enough

for people to know

[turbid horizon]

yeah but like

How many games have you making that callout

[past mesa]

kill the babies

a lot

[turbid horizon]

Ig

[past mesa]

kill the mom

not much

[upper ginkgo]

i'm glad we converged onto BBC as a name of a gtfo enemy

[turbid horizon]

Yes

good choice

[upper ginkgo]

honestly the devs letting us name the enemies is pretty neat

even though we just use their internal names most of the time

except bullrush

that's stupid af

charger is way better

[past mesa]

hybrid isnt internal

[upper ginkgo]

what's the internal name for hybrid

[past mesa]

rapidshooter

[upper ginkgo]

yeah hybrid is cooler

[past mesa]

shocker

ngl

is in my vocab

[turbid horizon]

shooter_rapid_fire

[turbid horizon]

Yes

I fucking love that name

[upper ginkgo]

big flyer sounds less cringe

[turbid horizon]

well it also sounds more boring

[upper ginkgo]

true !

[past mesa]

although

rock head

[turbid horizon]

no

[past mesa]

is in my vocab

[turbid horizon]

Nuh uh

[past mesa]

as well

[turbid horizon]

no

No

do not

[past mesa]

licker

[turbid horizon]

imagine if we called chargers lickers

BBL

[upper ginkgo]

wish licker stuck around instead of strikers

[turbid horizon]

sorry I watched too much MumboJumbo

[upper ginkgo]

shooter is fine

"hybrid!"

"hi bread"

[turbid horizon]

hybrid is probably our coolest callout

Pablo is a meme but definitely the most unique callout

oh and chicken

If only they actually used chickens in vanilla

[upper ginkgo]

same

[turbid horizon]

i do still wish we’d gotten more enemies in the line of snatchers and potatoes

[upper ginkgo]

if they spawned in alarms, i'd use them as shitty hybrids for a or b tier missions

[turbid horizon]

Me using them just as an alternative for fun

[turbid horizon]

Btw i mean like elite threats

[upper ginkgo]

yeah I want a slow moving tanky disruptor

[turbid horizon]

Not bosses, but like 300-600 hp things

[upper ginkgo]

the game mostly using mono enemy waves is so sad

give the sniper user something to shoot at during alarms in general instead of making them only relevant for one specific part of the level

[turbid horizon]

Like in Occy I made a 450 HP infection shooter that had the ranged attacks of chickens, hybrids, potato, and infection shooters

Super fast, and fires a lot of projectiles

Sorry, not the cchicken attack

I gave it the shotgun shot

[upper ginkgo]

the shooter enemy types having projectile speeds is nice

having to dodge shooters, hybrids, and chickens simultaneously is pretty fun

[prime breach]

im trying to find anything related to movement tech whether its advanced or basic, but all the stuff i find is 3 years old, back when stamina wasnt a thing... can someone help provide some about it?

[digital mural]

#guides-and-reviews

[upper ginkgo]

movement mechanics are more or less the same, it's just that stamina limits the amount of actions you can perform effectively

so despite nuggies' movement guide being a couple of years old, most of the stuff is still relevant

there's still some niche movement tech post-og r6 though

[silent delta]

sidestep licks, get behind cover or crouch at the last second for shoots, dont dodge

[upper ginkgo]

like black-hopping

[silent delta]

like whathoppin

g

[upper ginkgo]

idk the real name

[civic wave]

Perfect bhops conserve momentum

[upper ginkgo]

let me find the relevant video

[civic wave]

Known as blackhops

[silent delta]

i thought thats what bhops were

[civic wave]

Let you stay at max speed forever and whilst carrying heavy objects

[silent delta]

time to pull a doom eternal and bind jump to my scroll wheel

[upper ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/X2TeSDoQ_84?list=PLcwMyua8zopADS1H3Aq63zpaEjQHaV5rd&t=38

rip voidspace

tbf a lot of the movement tech is scattered about

so you'll need to dig through youtube to be familiar with most of it

https://youtu.be/5I8zpdZNvoI?t=783

like this one, i haven't heard much people talk about this

[past mesa]

this

[upper ginkgo]

although i'm fairly sure most people apply this tech in their gameplay

[past mesa]

is both a great video

and Just

Not indepth enough

[upper ginkgo]

yeah i only like to reference parts of the video as opposed to the whole thing

it's a good primer for better gameplay if anything

it's kinda hard to explain kiting since it's a mindset / gamesense thing if anything

you can't really explain good routing concisely or coherently

it's a skill learned through experience unfortunately

[upper ginkgo]

it's really interesting to see how people travel through the same map in different ways and i think skill/game knowledge is a big factor in why

[ocean spindle]

if u had to do an entire level based around a single type of enemy, which one would it be
all strikers, all shooters, all chargers, all shadows, all bosses...

[digital mural]

babies

[mossy dome]

all shooter level is sadistic

[ocean spindle]

r1b2 does go kinda hard tho

if it just had more types of shooter enemies and stuff i think it would've been a rlly fun thing to do

[mossy dome]

double kraken or kraken + mini(s) would be really cool imo

[ocean spindle]

oh that sounds like a great idea

as long as they are like desynced from one another

[digital mural]

a kraken that spawns spicy meatballs only

[mossy dome]

kraken w/ 2 or 3 immortals would be really fricking cool

[digital mural]

1 person kiting the immortals

lol

[ocean spindle]

r8 funny did it good by spawning one enemy every 2 mins or so

i think it could be expanded

[digital mural]

immortal big charger but with you can stagger it easily

[mossy dome]

reusing the potato during a kraken fight would be cool too

one every min or so would make it really interesting

kind of put you on a timer to kill either kraken or boss. If you balanced the resource packs well enough that it was kind of tight I think that would be a super cool concept

make it so if you kill too many potatoes and stall it out, it punishes you

also their projectiles look a lot like kraken so it'd be a bit easier for one to pull up on you

makes me wish I knew how to mod

[soft crater]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[soft crater]

Could just ask in the modded server

[short zinc]

Im in R4 Mission 2 - Foster - the Cyro Cases arnt appearing in the terminal. Is this a bug?

[minor fractal]

What command exactly?

[short zinc]

Says to Query Cyro_463 and 180 but they dont show up in the list

[minor fractal]

Can you post the exact command text?

[short zinc]

The Objective states to gather information about the locations of Cyro_463 and Cyro_180

The terminal command text inputted is Query Cyro_463 and the response is just a blank list, the item doesnt exist.

Same thing happens for Cyro_180

[minor fractal]

Can you post an image of what the terminal displays in #gtfo-media

[short zinc]

Sure

[jagged shore]

if it's an empty list, are you doing list query cryo_463

[short zinc]

Posted

[short zinc]

Naw, tried listing all the objects named Cyro to try to find it, comes up blank

[soft crater]

Cryo

Cyro

@short zinc

[jagged shore]

Oh yeah lol
cYro is typed not cRyo

[short zinc]

Oh Im spelling it wrong, that makes sense

ffs

[jagged shore]

Happens to the best of us

[short zinc]

Im cryoing

[jagged shore]

*cyroing

[dapper kettle]

Hej! I am interested in getting GTFO when it goes on sale, but I have a few questions first.
-How much worse/different/more difficult is playing with random matchmaking as opposed to with friends?
-Is the text chat good enough for communication, or is voice chat 100% necessary?
-How much time does a typical run take, and how much time does a typical session take?
Tack!

[digital mural]

Vc is not neccesary
Playing with Friends is obviously easier than randoms

A run can take anywhere between 30 mins to 1 hour and a half

For newbies

It really depends on the levels

[tiny wyvern]

-Most of us don't use in game matchmaking due to cheaters and imperfections of the matchmaking system itself, we lfg for people on discord and they usually work well enough
-Text chat is barebones enough, vc is recommended, and if you screw up too much as a mute player (only text) and don't communicate what you don't know, people will assume you're trolling
-You'll have to elaborate on what a typical run is. Do you mean a typical easy level or a typical hard level?

[dapper kettle]

Easy for sure when I'm starting

[digital mural]

Regarding the last question
On average any level takes 30 mins to 1 hour and a half for newbies

[tiny wyvern]

Typical easy levels take experienced folk around half an hour to an hour
But we've seen people take three on those

[digital mural]

If You take 3 then You are doing something REALLY bad

Any run above than 2 is just going really slow/bad

[tiny wyvern]

For hard levels 1 and a half at least for first time run throughs

slightly under one hour if you're lucky

[dapper kettle]

Thanks for the responses and help! I think I'm on board for getting it this winter :)

[digital mural]

Good luck

GTFO is a gane that needs a lot of dedication and learning

[dapper kettle]

How long did it take you to feel comfortable with it, and how long did it take you to feel experienced with it?

Ballpark estimates I mean

[digital mural]

300 hours

Lol

At 100 hours i felt a bit confortable
Then at 300 a bit experienced

I still struggle a lot sometimes in this game

Even after all this time i still learn new things everyday

[soft crater]

depends how much you'll learn/adapt to all the gtfo knowledge.

hours is a relatively bad metric to use anyhow.

I've met 200 hours that were miles better than some 1k-2k hour players

[silent delta]

i was a religious veruta user until like 350 horus

[soft crater]

started falling off when all weapons became available from what I can tell

[silent delta]

i still stand by the fact that veruta can clean house

definitely outclassed

but it gets the job done

[soft crater]

veruta to me is more of a "fun" gun

[silent delta]

oh it is

budda budda budda budda

[upper ginkgo]

honestly might be an arby enjoyer

landing headshots on veruta is so hard

[soft crater]

I wish Arby's reload wasn't fucked

[upper ginkgo]

it makes sense

strong gun needs to be balanced by low uptime :)

i'd probably use rifle more if the reload wasn't so shit

how to kill a gun's usage

[tardy ingot]

Imagine if they didnt fuck its reload cancel

[upper ginkgo]

fuck with its...

• reload
• add unnecessary recoil
• scope / iron sight

[soft crater]

I haven't seen any known players take Rifle ever since the reload cancel nerf outside of randomizers/etc

[upper ginkgo]

yeah i think i've seen more burst rifle users in the wild than rifles

[green bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/skibi-скиби-di-silly-gif-16896821283788121359

[upper ginkgo]

what do the numbers mean simon

[green bronze]

"I do"

no

it's the lstr number (512)

not this long ass number

[upper ginkgo]

oh cringe

[green bronze]

ill crush your neck

[upper ginkgo]

uh sure

just make it quick

[soft crater]

[green bronze]

it will start all over again

[dapper kettle]

You're telling me that We Have the Meats in this game

Well now I have to get it

[upper ginkgo]

american spotted !

[mossy dome]

can anyone offer sage wisdom on getting better lines when running hel gun/rifle? I feel like I'm never making the most of the weapon

[upper ginkgo]

play solo so the enemies only aggro to you

but real talk, it's kinda map dependent

it's way easier to get lines when enemies are clumped together and farther away since they don't do their strafing animations when you LOS them

[past mesa]

First thing is be in a spot where you will get good lines.

if there isn’t a spot near you

You have to make one

[upper ginkgo]

in a team setting, i like to stand in front of teammates so when enemies are aggro'd onto you or your teammates, you still can get lines

[sturdy glen]

use pings

[upper ginkgo]

bio carry

[past mesa]

^

[sturdy glen]

focus on enemies further away from you because they are harder to hit

wait till an enemy runs in front of you

and then shoot

[upper ginkgo]

yeah a lot of it is just waiting for enemies to do their charging animations at you

so you can get easy shots when they run straight at ya

[past mesa]

don’t go for the 5 pens always 2-3 pens are mostly good enough

And will keep your uptime really high

[upper ginkgo]

would you guys agree that getting pens are more of a reactive thing

[sturdy glen]

yes

100%

[upper ginkgo]

as opposed to something proactive

[sturdy glen]

you can do it mindlessly but then theres no point in asking about it

[upper ginkgo]

you can't really force lines to happen

you just see them and take shots

[past mesa]

The proactive mindset is about where your standing

But that is it

[sturdy glen]

you can do minor stance adjustments to help force a line

but theres only so much you can do while holding

[mossy dome]

2 follow up questions:
1.) any other tips to avoid the enemies strafing other than keeping distance better?
2.) when do you give up on getting pen because an enemy is getting too close vs. sticking it out to try and get the shot?

[sturdy glen]

I play quickswap weapons 100% of the time so as last second as I Can get

its just how comfortable you are

but never take damage for a line

cuz you just get aim punched

[upper ginkgo]

yeah don't take damage for a line

[sturdy glen]

and its kinda over at that point

[past mesa]

Enemies start strafing when you’re looking at them. Unless your 180 flicking your lines this won’t help you

[sturdy glen]

you can also aim to kill a close enemy early so you can focus on lines after

[past mesa]

Chill doesn’t ever use this tech

[past mesa]

Remember killing the wave to fast

Is also

[mossy dome]

ye

[past mesa]

Not amazing getting 4 3 pens

Is basically all you need to full carry

You killed half or damage half the wave

And now you go do scans

[mossy dome]

ty for the advice

[upper ginkgo]

hel weapons are kinda eh in skirmish settings tbh

you won't get much pen value when you're surrounded

[sturdy glen]

unless you play hel shotgun

[upper ginkgo]

true

[sturdy glen]

the most balanced gun

[mossy dome]

I started playing it and am now struggling to stop

every time I don't I just go "man a hel shotgun would be so nice rn"

[sturdy glen]

me watching non helshotgun gameplay

[upper ginkgo]

me cleaning up shooters cause hel shotgun users can't hit them

[sturdy glen]

oh yeah thats another thing for lines

try to kill shooters first

they stay far away so you can focus on them pretty easily

getting aim punched sucks ass so getting rid of them fast is good

[past mesa]

Hel shotty brain rot

Not matter the wave I just think hel shorty clear this

[mossy dome]

it's a crutch and both my legs are broken

i need it

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[sturdy glen]

must

hit more clips

hgrn

[past mesa]

Could you make the triple hit guide

Doubles are a tad to easy

[sturdy glen]

get lucky

there u go

[past mesa]

No

I think triple hits

Are consistent

[sturdy glen]

you cant find them tho

[mossy dome]

mid combat triple hit guide when

[past mesa]

^

Might as well combine quad hits as well

[sturdy glen]

I might actually make a hel shotgun guide next

[past mesa]

Remove your brain

become ape

Walk into wave

Slowly

[upper ginkgo]

aim guide when

[green bronze]

wasd guide when...

[sturdy glen]

wheres the guide that tells new players to play other fps games before GTFO

[upper ginkgo]

"gtfo is my first fps!"

honestly it's not the worst fps to start off with

[past mesa]

GTFO isn’t the worst first fps

[green bronze]

i mean it's just a pve game

not some sort of competitive where you shoot other players

[upper ginkgo]

yeah enemies move predictably, have generous hitboxes, stagger on hit, etc.

[upper ginkgo]

but also it's a game where having any shooting skill makes your life 100x easier

[mossy dome]

gtfo is my first fps

[upper ginkgo]

yeah i could tell

[mossy dome]

I knew you were gonna say that 😭

honestly i like it because of the non shooter elements and the shooting part is just ok

[green bronze]

my first fps was bo II

i abused xpr hard 🤑

[icy cave]

Wolfenstein 3D

[mossy dome]

the strategy, combat, team dynamics, etc. are why i play, the shooting is just there

[icy cave]

I did NOT abuse xp

[green bronze]

auto snipers are peak

if u miss you can just left click again

[upper ginkgo]

honestly the shooting is what keeps me hooked

[sturdy glen]

shooting arguably the most important part of this game

[upper ginkgo]

big dopamine release when I hit triple pens

[mossy dome]

I can totally see that. I feel like I'd enjoy the shooter aspect on its own if I was cracked

not my best game type though

[upper ginkgo]

they nailed combat feedback in this game

popping heads feels so good

[sturdy glen]

enemy part/limb destruction is such a good feature

[upper ginkgo]

shooting off limbs

[sturdy glen]

wish more games had it

[green bronze]

yeah but i dont think it matters in gtfo

[mossy dome]

only enemy i disagree with that is dog kills feel really unsatisfying

[green bronze]

i mean...

[upper ginkgo]

new doom game will probably be the next big limb destruction game

[sturdy glen]

huh?

[upper ginkgo]

yeah I just realized there's no part breaks on dog

[mossy dome]

it doesn't have a roar or interesting death either

[upper ginkgo]

dog just ragdolls when it dies :(

[sturdy glen]

dog has a lot of problems lol

[mossy dome]

at least the tank has its scream

[native sun]

Sad puppy noises feels bad

[upper ginkgo]

mom and tank at least have pimples to pop

[icy cave]

Cause it is whole(some)

[icy cave]

It has a scream tho

[upper ginkgo]

hearing enemies go splat is so euphoric

[mossy dome]

if you want to call it that i can't stop you lol

more of a sad whimper to me

[sturdy glen]

kicking the dog

[icy cave]

It has a ... sound*

fixed it

[mossy dome]

[upper ginkgo]

how do we fix dog

[green bronze]

limb loss doesnt have effects on enemies

i wish gtfo limb loss was more immersive

(no idea how that will work out)

[native sun]

Make like Hunter/Smoker in L4D2, team mates can save you from the grab if they act fast enough

[upper ginkgo]

yeah breaking giant limbs so their punches do less dmg would be a nice touch

[sturdy glen]

I mean that doesnt mean its not an important feature of the game

[icy cave]

It is still nice to see feedback of the shots you put into enemies

[green bronze]

kiter will just shoot all their feets

and then kite easier

🤓

[mossy dome]

wave capping via leg removal

[sturdy glen]

hard stagger and head breakpoints play a big part in general gameplay

[green bronze]

true...

[upper ginkgo]

yeah since enemies don't have health bars, looking at how torn they are is a cool way to show health

immersion !!

[green bronze]

i mean you can just break half of the torso with 1 hammer charge (giant btw)

[mossy dome]

flesh wound

[green bronze]

(100 hp left)

[icy cave]

tis but a scratch

[upper ginkgo]

yeah but a giant with its head gone and a hole in its chest is likely going to have less health than a giant with a missing arm

it's not accurate by any means, but it gives a good ballpark estimate into how many bullets you should spend

[green bronze]

shut up ill just scatter this very torn up giant

[upper ginkgo]

sorry...

[sturdy glen]

costs the same as a full health giant

teams fault...

[upper ginkgo]

I wish I could parry the dog with sledgehammer

[native sun]

When my MG deals 100dmg to the giant while I reload sniper

[upper ginkgo]

just like how you can cut smoker tongues (mid animation) with sharp melees in l4d

[green bronze]

TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WE NEED PARRY MECHANIC

parry kraken's bullets also 🤑

[native sun]

Parry > snatcher bug combo goes hard

[sturdy glen]

glaggleland

[mossy dome]

parry this you filthy casual

[sturdy glen]

you can rip the parry dll out of glaggle btw

or at least you could, I havent messed with it in a while

[upper ginkgo]

I wish snatcher sent you to another dimension where you have to solo a class iv to escape

[green bronze]

???

[mossy dome]

imma be honest I think like 1% of the playerbase could solo a class 4

[native sun]

There is a modded rundown with a parry mechanic

[upper ginkgo]

don't think it's that hard when hel shotty exists lol

[native sun]

Wave clear player spotted

[mossy dome]

imagine you get dogged before your teammate can give you ammo lmfao

[sturdy glen]

tru solos a tank to get back

[upper ginkgo]

lmao it's like the artifact dimension in ror2

[native sun]

Shadow link fight

[green bronze]

when can u carry me in mhworld

[upper ginkgo]

whenever you ask for it

[green bronze]

i need that (promise)d Fatalis kill

🤑

🤑

now buddy

get off ur bed

[upper ginkgo]

nah I wanna bedrot

byee

[green bronze]

so this is the Leave ending...

[upper ginkgo]

nah I'll remember

so it'll be the memory ending

[green bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/skibi-скиби-di-silly-gif-16896821283788121359

[twin marsh]

RIP

[brazen escarp]

Best loadout in everyone's opinion?

[sharp cairn]

Revolver( i dont know how to shoot)

[brazen escarp]

And for special?

I keep hearing the Hel gun

[sharp cairn]

Revolver in special(i still dont know how to shoot)

[brazen escarp]

fr?

[sharp cairn]

I mean i play carabine burst 4 rounds and revolver

And it do good job

[green bronze]

revolver is ammo efficient if you can aim for heads

[icy cave]

Hel revo/carbine/hel shotty for main

Special is more up to your pref

[brazen escarp]

Sweet thanks!

[sharp cairn]

(I cant aim)

XDD

i just like revolver

[tardy ingot]

You can check out either
This
#guides-and-reviews message
Or this
https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/s/ijRFIVDZS9

[civic furnace]

main: sawed off, hel revo, hel shotgun, carbine
special: hel rifle, helgun, scattergun

I legit dont remember other special weapons so I might be biased to hel weapons :3

they so sexy :3

[craggy pier]

Sawed off, scattered, master fixed knife

[tardy ingot]

Nah in essence thats it

Burst cannon 4th and combat shotty as an addon

[spice hamlet]

special revo is decent but not best

it just has ammo efficiency going for it and that's IF you're hitting headshot

[spice hamlet]

ngl the more I play gtfo the more inclined I am to bring a hel weapon

except burst cannon & scattergun

[civic wave]

That's how it goes when you're trying to reach the theoretical maximum and get as much value as possible

[spice hamlet]

it's not that

I'm bringing a hel weapon because I don't trust pubs

[modest monolith]

only when you learn to trust those poor "pubs" soul then you will find... inner peace

there is no great enemy beside your inner voice.

Master it, control it

[spice hamlet]

when I see a giant score a triple kills

[modest monolith]

and the world is your

[spice hamlet]

I simply can't

funny part is

I got blamed for "not being there"

[civic wave]

Hel weapons have nothing to do with not trusting pubs

[keen seal]

obv the giant needs the team wipe credit

[modest monolith]

ah... such hatred ...

slowly let your body embrace it

then open your chat

and type "i slept with your mom"

[civic wave]

or the eastern euro classic "i fuck your mother"

[modest monolith]

again, control your inner voice

[keen seal]

just string together every insult you know which is like 10 words and you are good

[modest monolith]

accept what it brings you

and... may peace be upon you

[topaz anvil]

What if we aren't here for peace

[modest monolith]

then peace was never an option

[modest monolith]

a wise man once said

"there's no limitation to stupidity"

stay hungry, stay foolish, my dear brothers

carbine is your go to thing against nightmare and no one will ever complain about it

knife is the best melee and don't ever doubt it

[soft crater]

[spice hamlet]

I'm so annoyed by nightmare I go in with 2 special dmg booster & hel rifle

[topaz anvil]

The mistake there is you aren't taking dmr 😎

[spice hamlet]

dmg can only stagger them and it's still a 2 tap kill

fkers also know how to throw a punch

unlike their chargers cousin

[grizzled patrol]

Just Hel gun them to death

[keen seal]

when 1 hel gun shot doesn't stagger unless you hit tumor

[upper ginkgo]

another hel gun L

[mossy dome]

smh why didn't you stagger

[green bronze]

because they are not vital in gameplay?

[livid stone]

GTFO

[green bronze]

i was answering to a deleted message btw

[errant dome]

never understood why people delete their msges

just own up to your mistake if u made one

[digital mural]

What was the message

[ocean spindle]

that we needed a rocket launcher :3

[livid stone]

Facts

[safe cradle]

Oh, sometimes just to insult freely so mods aren't gonna ban you

Noone's that fast on print screen

[spice hamlet]

because skill issue

[soft crater]

Nah

[spice hamlet]

[errant dome]

cringe

i guess no logs on the server to check

[silent delta]

Bring sniper it one shots 💯

[spice hamlet]

[green bronze]

@upper ginkgo i need u for 2 mins

hop on voicechat

it's time 🤑

[keen path]

there are logs to check if you're a mod esp with big servers like these. people are just dumb to think mods can't check deleted messages because they can't

[green bronze]

thanks so much, Voxy :D

[sage pulsar]

do yall quick swap weapons using default keybinds

swapcancel even

[upper ginkgo]

yeah

[sage pulsar]

how

the num keys are further up from wasd

[silent delta]

they're not that far

and im used to them

[sage pulsar]

middle finger?

[digital mural]

they are literaelly above

wdym far

[green bronze]

ur finger is just short

[silent delta]

might be slightly more efficient with keybinds but im used to the number keys and they work just fine

[digital mural]

i can swap guns without moving my fingers off WASD

[green bronze]

same

[digital mural]

with the num keys

[green bronze]

3.1 inches finger !!!!

[sage pulsar]

how

[green bronze]

use ur brain to control ur fingers

[digital mural]

i use my ring finger or middle finger

[sage pulsar]

no, tell me what you do with the finger

hmm

[digital mural]

the other fingers stay on the wasd keys

How much experience do You have with mouse and keyboard?

[grizzled patrol]

Melee on C, primary Mouse 4 secondary Mouse 5. Selecting weapons with a thumb is so nice

[soft crater]

Me with 20ms Macro/Shove/Ping/GiveUse/close tab all tied to the side of my mouse

Close tab is mainly for browsing internet but meh

(And yes I have 5 side buttons)

There was a DPI button in the center but I use it as a Discord Mute/Unmute

[spice hamlet]

mouse 4 is in game push to talk, mouse 5 is discord push to talk

am I the only one who use push to talk

[frail heart]

Yes

Let me hear your mum scold you

[frail heart]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

My melee is on Z tho

And the weapon buttons are switched

[spice hamlet]

it's just a habit I got from playing squad

[soft crater]

Makes sense

[soft crater]

But is it just proxy chat or radio tho?

[spice hamlet]

squad vc

also proxy

[lone mortar]

MELE ON C?!?

INHUMAN KEYBINDS

[soft crater]

Isn't that the default

Or is it V?

[past mesa]

This isn’t bad I just use the mouse buttons for crouch and melee already numbers for weapons

[ocean spindle]

is c i think

[upper ginkgo]

c crouchers vs. ctrl crouchers

[past mesa]

Edfr movement key users

[civic wave]

please help my wrist can't take any more of using ctrl to crouch

[soft crater]

Me a L.Alt croucher

[civic wave]

People who use left alt to crouch are the same kind of people who think that ordering a madras at an Indian restaurant makes them adventurous

[past mesa]

What about edfr movement users

[soft crater]

Me when Remnant from Ashes has LAlt for crouch by default

[past mesa]

what do I order at a restaurant

[civic wave]

You ruin the curry you just ordered by adding the sauces from the pickle tray to it

[ocean spindle]

i use the melee way more than the crouch

C is perfect

[soft crater]

I'm assuming. That's a some sort of curry?

I've mostly preferred Japanese Curry

That or Thai curry

[arctic marten]

you've been popping off lately keep it up

[pulsar narwhal]

can't join hosted friend lobby whats going on

[digital mural]

Do they have the player slot Open?

[trail carbon]

Also having that exact issue funny enough, it worked for the past week but today we just cant join each other

[past mesa]

Hmmm

Did one of you play the game a long time ago

vpn

[trail carbon]

that would be a no

neither of us use VPN's

[past mesa]

Are you joining each other lobbies

with a code or on steam

[trail carbon]

steam mainly

we tried the code method and it failed as well

[past mesa]

So you host a level they you try to join

Then it doesn’t work

Hmmm

[trail carbon]

yep

[past mesa]

I get home in a bit I can help you troubleshoot by being a middle man

To figure out whose game is fucked

But the next check would be to get any other player

And both join them

See which one of you breaks

Then delete the 10cc info folder

And try again

[trail carbon]

having a buddy attempting to join now

whos not the usual duo

it is my duo whos game is borked

[past mesa]

So go to control r %appdata% local low then find gtfo

And gut the data it gets rid of key binds and settings

Low battery atm but gl you got this

Probs one of the log files had something go wrong and now it isn’t great

[tacit dagger]

have u ever herd of m4 or 5 croucher's?

[civic furnace]

my crouch is on V :3

[sinful lake]

Alt crouchers

[sinful lake]

Based

[high flume]

how tho

like what finger u use?

[grizzled patrol]

Brother, i Play on a keypad. My Hand is warped beyond your imagination

[sinful lake]

Left thumb

As per how, if you make a claw with your hand you're going to have a similar form that I have when I play. The thumb usually lies almost flat over the L.alt for me. Which is very confortable.

[high flume]

makes sense. i might give it a go tbh

[green bronze]

forgot to ask, why don't devs fix the game

[tiny wyvern]

They're going to their next project that's called...

rustles papers

den...of...wolves

[green bronze]

I mean

[tiny wyvern]

As such nearly every single bug that's still here

Will stay

[green bronze]

Insane...

[tiny wyvern]

(To be fair, how many bugs are actually fixed in the tech support forums)

(We've only found solutions through troubleshooting)

[green bronze]

I mean we paid a lot for this game and it would be a same if we couldn't enjoy it to the fullest

[tiny wyvern]

I've seen people buy this game and get treated to unity crashes
And the first thing they do when they join the server

[green bronze]

Software or hardware bugs didn't bother me that much tbh

[tiny wyvern]

Isn't to ask for lfg

Is to tech support

[green bronze]

True...

Tho gotta say

I think a lot of people refunded this game after 1-2 hours of playing

Either game being too hard or too glitchy

[tiny wyvern]

Also for some reason in the past 24 hrs we had three tech support threads

[green bronze]

So proud 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[winged mango]

Why u didnt refund?

[lone mortar]

800hrs played

[modest monolith]

f*ck off

[lone mortar]

Sleeping on this chat

[modest monolith]

"sneaking under your bed"

[lone mortar]

@grizzled patrol thats you bbg

[winged mango]

Thats alot of hours wow!

[grizzled patrol]

2 hours vanilla, 798 with cheats

[lone mortar]

Who?

[grizzled patrol]

Heroic Heart is qol yes yes yes

[lone mortar]

Also shouldnt you be on work rn antares?

[grizzled patrol]

I have a smoke break

[lone mortar]

Why you shitting on me jumping on cconsole

[grizzled patrol]

[lone mortar]

Sus

[tardy ingot]

the too glitchy part is such a bs statement ngl

theres beginners who suffer from a glitch making their first experience ass but god is it not common

[tiny wyvern]

Every once in a while that does come up
Due to... unideal circumstances
But most of the time it's difficulty

[tardy ingot]

yea

[tiny wyvern]

(By difficulty, I mean people crying about their experiences and forgetting what they signed up for)

[tardy ingot]

yup

people want the prestige of playing and beating a challenging game

but none of the challenge

[topaz anvil]

That's why I use the best cheat: good teammates

[tiny wyvern]

Also there was an outage in steam earlier today
and caused like eight people to jump onto tech support for help

And now I'm waiting for their logs
God that's going to be fun

In case it isn't the outage that caused the problem

[topaz anvil]

outage happens
People now want help
Hmmm but what if it isn't the outage

[tardy ingot]

like regarding bugs
what comes up that would be bad enough

desync related issue - yes, but also commonly connection issues in general (it is a problem tho but also not easy at all to fix)
soundbug - yes yes yes, tho it is rare as its only on a few select levels. Honestly should just remove spitter and cocoon sounds that cause this.
shooter/cfoam bug - unity issue
uplink bug - only on uplink levels if you restart mid drop

[tiny wyvern]

Unknown unity crashes

[tardy ingot]

those basically happen in all games that use unity then no?

[tiny wyvern]

that actually crashes your pc
(happened twice the entire time I've been on tech support)

And I've never heard from them ever again

[topaz anvil]

I crash more frequently in crab champions and dbd than I do gtfo. Crashes aren't GTFO's biggest problem

[tardy ingot]

one that is quite common among beginners is fog disappearence bug

they just play the game at super dark with barely any visibility

[tiny wyvern]

I remember one guy found a way to fall through the map

Like nearly forever

[tardy ingot]

theres spots where you can just fall down
and theres bugs where it happens

its incredibly incredibly rare tho

last time it happened to me was 10 days after release of r7

ive played for about 2k hours since then

[tiny wyvern]

Oh wait that's another game, the one for this one was he kept rubberbanding up and down on R8C1

[tardy ingot]

either he died and fell (doesnt update your position so you eternally fall) or hes so desynced the game doesnt update anymore

[tiny wyvern]

No clue

[tardy ingot]

desyyyyyyyyyyyyync

[tiny wyvern]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1262633959901368360

Yeah it was this one

[tardy ingot]

its on host xD

yea thats incredibly rare
unless random knows i dont think its rly known why

but thats also just not rly smth you would add to "too glitchy"

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah
It's just something fun i remember off the top of my head

[tardy ingot]

like if you remove anything desync related (that will not rly occur on good connection ever) what is even left that people would quit over

[tiny wyvern]

trolls convincing people that the game has bugs that can spawn error waves on top of you

Definitely unrelated to him being on the terminal three seconds before it started

definitely

(On a more serious note, I don't know)

[tardy ingot]

theres a few smaller ones that imo lessen the experience

interact bug
no fog bug
(later) soundbug
i guess the unity related cfoam through door issue if they get to levels where it matters (but at that point they wouldve played WAAY over 2 hours)

liquid bug (if common for them)

[modest monolith]

Of all the known bugs, the c-foam bug is the mvp

[tardy ingot]

its funny how it is became a thing due to them adding dropped magazines in rundown 7

[modest monolith]

"Hey guys, I got 100% c-foam portion booster"

door breaks in 1 second

💀

how to fix a bug ? We create another bug

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[tardy ingot]

when have they done this?

honestly og r6 had 2 of the worst glitches in this games history

sniper melee and orientation bug

(not at the same time luckily)

[modest monolith]

burst canon in OG R4, fix the burst cancel but makes weapon switching painful.

bugs are the star players of this game. It's a shame when you did not have a chance to go through all of them

Cell dups bug ? My favorite one and probably the best

Uplink terminal more than once by using the same command ? Hell yeah, bae.

[tardy ingot]

seems like you would be a fan of the recently found out of bounds lol

[modest monolith]

Ngl, those bugs are annoying for sure, but it gave me plenty of unforgettable memories

[strange jolt]

i played briefly in ogr6 but im not familiar with these

what are they exactly?

[tiny wyvern]

sniper melee is the one where you get melees from ridiculous ranges or something right

never heard of orientation bug tho

[civic wave]

Sniper melee was desync between enemy positions on host and client, so clients got licked from ridiculous places

[strange jolt]

ah i see

i was strictly playing as host back then so i never experienced it

[tardy ingot]

orientation bug was enemies not being properly orientated for back damage

made chargers, giants and specifically c-scouts super annoying to deal with

[soft crater]

Fun times

[hazy wedge]

Mfw a nightmare punches me when I’m 5 meters away from it

[upper ginkgo]

nightmares would be a better enemy if their melee hit box wasn't so shit

and maybe if they had a lower stagger threshold?

[wet bear]

Because he can and will do it

[strange jolt]

i think its fine since the stagger is something you can control and expect

but the fucker phasing through a wall or just teleporting on to you for a 1-2 combo is frustrating

[wet bear]

Just don't desync

[tardy ingot]

its rly just this imo
the stagger makes them not freely shat on like other enemies

[safe cradle]

Perhaps it's because I kinda stopped playing R8 but it's so weird to hear suggestions to balance/make better Nightmares

[lone mortar]

omg it sado

[strange jolt]

hello kaiser

[fallen kite]

Real, when you see a wave of nightmare strikers its genuinely threatening as opposed to normal enemies

Makes me piss myself a little

[tardy ingot]

mixed waves are still the goat

[fallen kite]

dont see many of them sadly

[strange jolt]

without daddy's permission? suck it back up 🤬

[fallen kite]

WTF LMFAOO

[tardy ingot]

(without stacking giant enemies) nightmare + charger + nightmare shooter + flyers + babies would be hella fucked

[strange jolt]

got too silly

my apologies

[fallen kite]

Is there a level that has babies in normal waves?

[tardy ingot]

i was about to say r8d2 but thats just mega mom skip

not that i can think off no

[wet bear]

Can we get potato surge with sustain scans?

[tardy ingot]

well theres nightmare babie spawns i guess

[fallen kite]

Missed opportunity

[strange jolt]

in vanilla? none if you dont count the nightmare babies in a2

[tardy ingot]

honestly you could add nightmare babies instead of babies
makes more thematic sense

[strange jolt]

whats their difference actually

[fallen kite]

In R8D2?

[tardy ingot]

nightmare wave + chargers and flyers

[wet bear]

Model

[tardy ingot]

oh no for the mixed terror wave

[fallen kite]

Ah right

[strange jolt]

oh nothing stat wise?

[fallen kite]

No yh thats pretty freaky

I think a big terror wave

Followed by like

A couple bbcs or hybrids that come in between

[tardy ingot]

nickle when are you doin r8d2 megamom skip smh

[tardy ingot]

yea if you wanna min max you add hybrids, chickens and bbcs

[fallen kite]

I havent even cleared it yet

[wet bear]

Set up garden tiles, make spawncap bigger and here you go, fps goes brrrrrr

[fallen kite]

Normally

:(

[tardy ingot]

BREH

[fallen kite]

THE STACK ARENT PLAYING OKAY

[strange jolt]

huh

[fallen kite]

WE GOT LIVES

And we dont play anymore

[wet bear]

You are above your stack by playing modded

[fallen kite]

Shit sucks

[strange jolt]

oh youre saving levels for your main group

makes sense

[fallen kite]

Mym

Thags why I play like

Exclusively modded now

[wet bear]

The fuck, why you have personal life outside of GTFO and others games?

[fallen kite]

Yk it genuinely made me so much worse at gtfo

First week of school

[tardy ingot]

how is that a better option than doing r8

[fallen kite]

And i’m alr half the player I was

[safe cradle]

How do you skip megamom exactly?

[wet bear]

Drop it for GTFO

[tardy ingot]

dont kill her

[fallen kite]

I enjoy modded so wtv

[wet bear]

By running

[safe cradle]

The door's unlocked by default?

[tardy ingot]

i wish i was in the mental state to finish the video
but ill probably do so after my excursion

the video shows it well

but yea its unlocked by default

[fallen kite]

I wanna experience the vanilla ending with my boys

[safe cradle]

lel

[tardy ingot]

modded can spoil stuff

[fallen kite]

already knew abt most of it anyway

Peeking too much around these chats

i just have no clue abt E2

[wet bear]

And still that's better to get bombarded by exploding flyers and shooters

[fallen kite]

Like at all

Ik its a timer

and thats it

[tardy ingot]

damn

should do objectiveless r8e2 on your first run

[wet bear]

There's a...... And there's also ........

[safe cradle]

I'd be panicking if I were you tbh

[fallen kite]

👍

Will do eva

[tardy ingot]

[fallen kite]

Ty for suggestion

[safe cradle]

Game will perhaps die completely in around 2-3 months

[wet bear]

Finally

[safe cradle]

Thus good luck finding a pub to finish R8E2

[fallen kite]

I’ll still play it

Im not pubbing it tho

💀

[safe cradle]

yeah I know but

[wet bear]

He will use necromancy and call for modded community

[safe cradle]

in case you need the option won't be there as much as it is now

[fallen kite]

Thats fine

I’ll just solo it

[tardy ingot]

what

lol

[fallen kite]

Hes chatting shit

but ik what hes trying to say

[safe cradle]

Eh I dont think we're gonna get more new vets compared to the ones that just quit

[tardy ingot]

like obviously pub lobbies are getting scarcer and scarcer
especially since most newer players wouldnt play R8

[safe cradle]

Like, the line is gonna go down no matter what

[fallen kite]

( even tho E2 pubs are like insta filled by people

[wet bear]

I've seen guys today doing R8A2 secondary and dropping it before completion cos it's hard

[tardy ingot]

"the games gonna die completely in 2-3 months"

=/= "less vets"

[wet bear]

Use matchmaking

[safe cradle]

well I said perhaps and you know I meant by the standards of filling a pub together

[tardy ingot]

theres gonna be less i agree
but in 2-3 months finding r8e2 shouldnt be too hard

and completely dying is a meme

its also easier if you are opening a lobby vs finding one

[safe cradle]

Does it need to reach 0 players for it to be "completely dead"? That's not a realistic standard.

[tardy ingot]

like if i open a lobby rn theres a 90% chance its filled in 5-10 min

[keen seal]

"if the world has no GTFO fans I am dead"

[wet bear]

Game already died guys idk what you talking about

[safe cradle]

Ok, so...

There's something I didnt really want to talk about

[keen seal]

we all share in the same delusion

[safe cradle]

But it's a bit how do you say...

Misleading claim?

YOU are going to get some other vets that know you to join in

which are your friends

I wouldn't call them pubs

You get where I'm going with this

[tardy ingot]

im arguing without filling a lobby of people who know me

its just that those join first usually

obviously its easier for me to find players to join than some new player

active community member vs newcomer

[safe cradle]

Yeah, well, that's gonna get harder and harder and I dont think that's mental gymnastics on my part, also why I said "perhaps". EVENTUALLY, the game's gonna be pratically dead, the question is how far in the future that is, and I'd argue it's perhaps around 2025.

[tardy ingot]

perhaps this game is completely dead in 2 days

idk
im just not a fan of hyperbole in stuff like this and "clearing it" with a perhaps

i do agree that it will become harder

lobbies are already lessened

[safe cradle]

I dont really think mine's an hyperbole, 2-3 months also means around end of the year and people will perhaps have more interest in other games and chances are that's when some will quit.

[tardy ingot]

honestly the biggest thing the devs need to do is

1. more freeweekends for people to get to try the game
2. community events
3. dow

(also merge dow and gtfo server lol)

[safe cradle]

I think 1 is the way to go in order to make the game last a bit more. A new rundown here and there with reused content only would also be fine but I know that's very probably NEVER gonna happen.

Even if it's shit you finish in a weekend (or a day I guess) like R3

[tardy ingot]

new content like that wont happen unless they rly come back

theres so much that goes into making sure it works

[wet bear]

I think russian GTFO server will just be merged with DoW, we have tons of channels that aren't used because game aren't popular , and DoW can bring people in, still games from same devs

[icy cave]

Game is ded Sleepo. Time to find something else to play

[tardy ingot]

well yea
idk why they ever made a dow server and not a 10Chambers server for dow and gtfo

[safe cradle]

All that's left is Chinese gachas with barely dressed women.

Which is not so bad.

[icy cave]

facepalms you need a wife

[safe cradle]

A 2D waifu? Yes I kinda do.

[civic wave]

people are entitled to like certain things

i prefer more modest clothes

[wet bear]

Wife is bad, my friend divorced and just plays games now and having fun

[icy cave]

You lost the way of the pizza

[safe cradle]

A complex reaction that needed 3 emojis on my end 🤣

[icy cave]

Luv you too man

[lunar rain]

Still have yet to attempt it, last level in r8 I need to do

[errant dome]

no they arent

or maybe people just dont wanna play with me

was in vc for like 2 hours total today trying to pub e2 but no one came :p

[soft crater]

Probably time frame you're lfging for it

[errant dome]

i mean u can see when i did in #lfg-asia

[soft crater]

That or it's just because ppl recognize Nickle

[errant dome]

dont think it was bad time

i think just no one wanted 2 play e2

[upper ginkgo]

it's more common than you think

[soft crater]

Tbf. Most ppl only look at LFG-NA and LFG-Beginners

[errant dome]

i mean i didnt put in beginners cause i cant exactly say e2 is a beginner level xd

[soft crater]