gtfo-related-questions

[arctic marten]

boom roasted

[hardy grotto]

I hope you get stuck in a pickle jar

[true magnet]

Thank you guys. ❤️

[arctic marten]

oh now we're never gonna know what the capital of honduras is

[silent delta]

Aww I missed the bot

What did it say

[hardy grotto]

you had to be there

[arctic marten]

it said pussy in bio

[silent delta]

does that like

Actually work

Ever

[arctic marten]

yea i clicked

now i have a pussy

[digital mural]

pics

[silent delta]

DUUUUDE

[digital mural]

right now

[silent delta]

That's huge

Free bottom surgery

[hardy grotto]

I should’ve clicked

[arctic marten]

you snooze you lose

[hardy grotto]

I love snoozing

[arctic marten]

ok but can you help me with this pickle jar

[hardy grotto]

No

[arctic marten]

fuck

[civic furnace]

thats messed up

[civic wave]

and you didn't tell any of the trans people? i'm so disappointed in you

[hardy grotto]

He can do it himself

It’s a learning experience

[livid stone]

missed it

[arctic marten]

sorry i didnt know that would happen

[arctic marten]

how am i supposed to learn to be stronger

thats stupid

just open the damn jar im hungry

[safe cradle]

Hate makes you stronger

[arctic marten]

but the hunger makes me weak

[safe cradle]

Bad to say but it works that way

[safe cradle]

Get angry because you dont deserve to be hungry

[arctic marten]

i could do with a lil hunger rn actually

[spice hamlet]

makes you smarter

just smash the jar

[arctic marten]

I like what this guys cooking

[dim warren]

ayo guys what weapons do i want to give the bots?

[spice hamlet]

smg/mg/rifle/dmr

shotguns are pretty awful with bots because they tend to use them outside of their effective range

[arctic marten]

Dtr and burst cannon

[spice hamlet]

ye burst cannon also good

[green bronze]

really??

[arctic marten]

Yes

[spice hamlet]

dtr not so sure

[green bronze]

i thought bots are shit at shooting burst cannon

( i have never tried )

[spice hamlet]

they hit their shots but waste some of it on small enemies

[arctic marten]

Bots get to burst cancel every gun and don’t have the bc charge up

[green bronze]

????

insane

[arctic marten]

Wish I could be bot

[green bronze]

TRUE TRUE

[spice hamlet]

can burst cancel but can't reload cancel*

[green bronze]

^^^

[ocean spindle]

i won't rlly go dmr, bit unforgiving on bodyshot, maybe hel revo instead

[mossy dome]

I really like burst rifle/heavy ar for bots personally

but i like no bots even more

[dim warren]

so now to the weapons as a player.. i found the sniper to be good because it onehits giants but i havent found a primary weapon that i like

any recommendations?

[digital mural]

Sniper is

Really bad

Like bad bad

[frail heart]

Not sniper

[dim warren]

REALLY xD fuck

it felt so good onehitting the giants

[frail heart]

One of the worst weapons in the game

[mossy dome]

if you want a 'sniper' hel rifle is nice. precision rifle is ok too

[digital mural]

Good luck when You get more than 2 giants running at you

[dim warren]

does one of them has 3 ammo mag?

[mossy dome]

i think they both have more iirc

[dim warren]

havent had that problem before

[digital mural]

Hel revo
Sawed off
Hel pistol
Hel shotgun
DMR
Carbine

[mossy dome]

precision rifle has a lot

[green bronze]

precision is peak tbh

feel so satisfying playing with it

[past mesa]

Sniper unlike the other big killers

Offers litter wave clear potential

With a low up time with the reload

[dim warren]

ill try these then, ill see what i like

[past mesa]

And it requires a crit spot being on the nemesis

[dim warren]

yeah well i havent had any problems with using sniper against giants because so far ive beaten the first two levels so r1a1 and r1b1 i think

there were never more than one of them

[mossy dome]

there will be more in the future

[digital mural]

Who is gonna tell him chat

[dim warren]

i bet there will, thats why im already asking

[upper ginkgo]

don't let the nay-sayers tell you not to bring sniper

[dim warren]

ive seen later rundowns, at least a little bit of them

[past mesa]

One shotting a giant and hybrid is all the sniper does and that is why the big killer in the game tends to be BC or scatter

[dim warren]

bc or scatter? xD

[past mesa]

Choke mod also exists but…..

[mossy dome]

they're good for different purposes

[past mesa]

Burst cannon or scattergun

[dim warren]

ah alr

[dim warren]

whatever that is, i wont mod before ive played a good amount

[upper ginkgo]

LOL

[digital mural]

Choke mod is a gun

Not a mod

Lol

[dim warren]

bruhhh

what ive never seen that xD

oh man do i feel dumb

[mossy dome]

scatter has low ttk on bosses, burst has better eco and can be used for a little bit of wave clear/smalls without being shit

[past mesa]

Chat does scatter have bad wave clear chat

[green bronze]

uhhh

[upper ginkgo]

yeah it only has 2 shots

[green bronze]

thats wrong buddy

[upper ginkgo]

it's horrible wave clear

[mossy dome]

just give the smalls a kiss during the wave

e z clear

[sturdy glen]

ngl BC eats so much ammo to wave clear

[upper ginkgo]

bc vs chargers

who wins

[dim warren]

i will just reread all that once im done with r1b1 and hope i understand what yall mean

[sturdy glen]

like it can do very good waveclear but its never gonna be efficient

[digital mural]

BBC

[past mesa]

Ray and Beth guzzling ammo packs. Me with 3 the entire level

[upper ginkgo]

it's cause beth plays hel gun like it's fucking revo

[mossy dome]

honestly just use what you enjoy/feels good, you're new

[green bronze]

burst cancel "qol" mod when 🤑🤑🤑

[mossy dome]

you'll figure it out as you go

[sturdy glen]

guys

[digital mural]

Step on a lego pls

[upper ginkgo]

where's all my ammo going???

hel gun spam

[sturdy glen]

what if the hel gun value was never real...

[dim warren]

yeah i will do but i wanted some recommendations, a bit less overwhelming only having to pick from 5 guns

[digital mural]

Slug shotgun and short rifle are also good

Try them

[green bronze]

AR and MG?

[upper ginkgo]

homie was guzzling ammo packs but only doing 13% of the dmg

it's paradoxical

[green bronze]

not me buddy

[upper ginkgo]

shut up simon

[green bronze]

i did 10k dmg so proud

😍😍😍😍

[tardy ingot]

theres a few "guides" around
theres rayalots ones on reddit or the sleeper podcast on youtube

[digital mural]

Self promotion

Mods

[mossy dome]

self promo

[digital mural]

Ban them

[mossy dome]

the sleeper podcast weapon tier lists are pretty fun tho

[green bronze]

erm what the sigma

[tardy ingot]

i either write down everything thats in these kinda guides or just link them tbh

I do it for either of rays, BDs (bots), scalers, hanis or my guides

[civic wave]

ya, it does, you get 18 bullets per refill only, forced into 6 bursts, and you're probably getting an average of 1.5-2 kills per burst, so 9-12 kills per refill (and that's probably towards the practical top end)

[sturdy glen]

At least it feels good to do

[civic wave]

very good

i miss 5 burst, might need to start running it for the novelty

[dim warren]

i think ive just seen a video of you

not watched, just seen it

[tardy ingot]

[dim warren]

yeah the stealth guide xD

[tardy ingot]

5 burst was goated 4fun

[green bronze]

i think i need to apologize EVA for the super desync game 3 years ago

r6d4

[tardy ingot]

ah yea that
specifically made to not spoil stuff past what youd be able to see in r1a1 (enemy wise) while still having everything

[digital mural]

do it

[green bronze]

i'm sowwy

[dim warren]

amazing, still need to find out how to kill scouts xD

[mossy dome]

poke head

[digital mural]

melee them to the head

[mossy dome]

sometimes back of head

[tardy ingot]

charge hammer and start running at it (dont if other sleeping enemies are in a close radius)
jump and hit head

[digital mural]

bat and knife need full charge to the back of the head

[dim warren]

did that with a knife, didnt work xD

yeah figured i needed to hit them to the back

[mossy dome]

knife is gonna be harder to melee scouts

hitbox kinda weird when you're learning and if you get the wrong angle or touch the scout or it spins you're gonna have a bad time

[dim warren]

liked the knife most so far so i guess imma have to learn

[dim warren]

funny enough, the ones of that list that i tried before were amongst my favorites anyways

just never tried shotguns or the carbine

[digital mural]

shotguns are crazy OP in this game

(except slug)

[spice hamlet]

if you want to one tap giants just go for the scattergun

obv that give up on range

for range tapping giant, you have the hel rifle ye, 4 hit front, 2 hit back and has penetration

[spice hamlet]

but sir, where are the BBC's head

[dim warren]

ehh i dont think im too much of a shotgun enjoyer but will try that as well

[green bronze]

sniper is ok

[dim warren]

just (how) does it work having a shotgun and like a precision rifle, arent you basically fucked because you cant kill small enemies without wasting loads of ammo

[digital mural]

nope

[tardy ingot]

tbh only rly 3 are op

[spice hamlet]

technically if you hit all your shots as host for waveclear, you can kill 18 strikers per refill which is the same as the revo...

[green bronze]

i can just bring it in every single C, D levels and be still fine

[turbid horizon]

PR is amazing for smalls

[digital mural]

you use both to kill smalls

ammo balancing

[green bronze]

true

[tardy ingot]

precision rifle is basically a revolver
its NOT a giant enemy killer

and main shotguns are basically as efficient as any other main weapon

killing 8 enemies in 8 shots is just as much as killing 8 with 48

[dim warren]

yeah okay thats true

oh how much do i have to learn about this game xD

[digital mural]

btw atuos suck in this game

[digital mural]

a lot

GTFO is a game that needs a lot of dedication and learning

[dim warren]

and friends or the will to lfg

[green bronze]

🤑 hel auto pistol is lit tho

[dim warren]

auto rifles?

[digital mural]

yeah

[green bronze]

very good at staggering

[digital mural]

auto rifles* suck

[green bronze]

oh

[digital mural]

fixed it

[mossy dome]

why stagger when kill 🐒

[green bronze]

i mean

[spice hamlet]

R8D2 secondary

[digital mural]

believe me
on big waves having someone to stagger the enemies can be really helpful

[green bronze]

in specific situation like r5e1 last surge

dont think you can just kill everything tbh

[mossy dome]

why did you both take that as a serious message 😭

[digital mural]

🫃

[green bronze]

bruh

[digital mural]

cuz

[spice hamlet]

because we have a newb in the channel

and cuz

we felt like it

[green bronze]

😤

[mossy dome]

[dim warren]

aye im not totally stupid ive played other games xD

[spice hamlet]

auto sucks but hear me out, short rifle isn't an auto gun but if you macro ...

[digital mural]

NO

[civic wave]

why is

short rifle does not need a macro

stop

[tardy ingot]

a lot

[spice hamlet]

where's that copy pasta already

Let me introduce to you, the short rifle. On paper and given to an aimbot, this is like the most broken weapon in the game but it feels like horse shot to use because to use it yo its full potential you literally need to be superhuman, able to click 20 times per second. This is where the macro comes in. You create a macro that when you hold a button, it clicks really fast, mimicking full auto. Don't go overboard with the firing speed. I set mine to fire somewhere between 5 and 10 per second, similar to the assault rifle. Then you bind that button to your most accessible mouse button.

Now you have a weapon that is the most generally ammo efficient in the game with the normal semi auto and then when you switch to full auto, it has up to the highest dps in the game, each bullet dealing more than twice of what the assault rifle does, still with a huge ammo capacity.

The only drawbacks are the somewhat hard to control recoil and half stagger, yet remember it still staggers more per bullet than the assault rifle and pretty much always staggers on heashot. Its also not super great for sniping shooters with early fall off. Deletes both strikers and giants though

[digital mural]

FUCK

i was late

[mossy dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLdsC4VCJOs

[tiny wyvern]

Oh the Arth copypasta

Haven't seen him around now that I think about it

[spice hamlet]

I don't agree with the fact arth want to make the short rifle a full auto gun

but if you turn it into a burst rifle

[civic wave]

NOOO

STOP

[spice hamlet]

you have a special that can 1 tap burst strikers

it's something

[tiny wyvern]

??

[civic wave]

i love my techman klust 6 burst cannon

[digital mural]

jokes aside

its actually good

[spice hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

fuck

[tiny wyvern]

no perms

[spice hamlet]

gif are disabled

[tiny wyvern]

Not just gifs

[spice hamlet]

[digital mural]

BLUE ARCHVIE EMOJI SPOTTED

[spice hamlet]

[spice hamlet]

but short rifle get 65 ammo per refill, assuming you hit all your shots in a triple tap burst with a headshot you can kill 21 striker + stagger 1 which is better than any of the auto specials

[civic wave]

ah yes, the auto specials which are well renowned to be exceptionally good weapons

[hardy grotto]

its almost like auto specials are also bad

🤯

[spice hamlet]

well it's better than the auto special in that sense

but honestly that's not why you bring a machinegun

[civic wave]

the only reason to ever take machine gun is to guzzle ammo

piss it all down the sink

whoops there goes another 5 use ammopack

[tardy ingot]

easy to use close/mid range wavestopper (veruta only tbh)

[upper ginkgo]

screw your ammo supply, im having fun spraying my mg

[past mesa]

THERE IS TO MANY OF THEM

WE HAVE TI FALL ABCK

AHHHHBEHHA

[spice hamlet]

tbf if you just want stagger

hel auto + main dmg boosters

[past mesa]

Hel shotty exists

[civic wave]

Ah yes, the main damage booster will really let me stagger better

[tardy ingot]

hel auto does stagger better tbh

it just doesnt do rly anything else hel shotty does

[civic wave]

What's 1.5x5 compared to the stagger hp of a striker

Hel auto is kinda fun to play

But I gotta stop playing gtfo in general and let my tendons rest

[spice hamlet]

better on nightmare for sure

[tardy ingot]

dw goat you get about 2 weeks of rest

[spice hamlet]

turn from a 3 hit stagger to a 2hit

[hardy grotto]

it’s just a useless gimmick ngl

I’d rather someone takes hel shotty cause at least they’ll kill stuff

[tardy ingot]

beth

you know how some people play hel shotty

lol

[upper ginkgo]

anti-support player

[hardy grotto]

I am anti support player

[tardy ingot]

plus with hel pp people learn that its stagger based faster

[hardy grotto]

They’re just deadweight

[hardy grotto]

Honestly yeah but I don’t expect pubs to do well with any gun

[tardy ingot]

well yea

thinking about average players hel pp is a good niche for the ones that dont rly aim to kill usually

[hardy grotto]

me watching the hel auto pp spam their mag into the big striker

[tardy ingot]

its better for them to make their team better than to not do anything

[tardy ingot]

vs the chad that does 6 shots

[civic wave]

i love firing my autopistol at midrange to stagger the enemies out of PR headshots

[hardy grotto]

There is 1 single time I’ve seen hel auto pp get value in a run of mine

And even then I still think you can do more with hel shotty

I hate support players

it’s not a real role stop using it as a justification to just do nothing

[tardy ingot]

i feel like its underestimating how much stagger value the gun brings

and if you play it well you will also still do decent dmg

obviously hel shotgun, being busted af, is generally better cuz it does fuck tons of dmg

[hardy grotto]

We used hel auto pp to cover my reload so I could keep killing in e2 duo

literally the only good use

Even for staggering a wave to like

Stop a punishment wave it’s like

You don’t need it for that

I’m waging a war against self proclaimed support players

[mossy dome]

what special would a support player bring

[hardy grotto]

And even so, I imagine you can do this with hel shotgun or hel revo, hel revo just is quite a bit harder

[hardy grotto]

combat shotgun short rifle or smth

It’s not so much about the weapons themselves

it’s the way they play

[upper ginkgo]

these people don't exist beth

[spice hamlet]

I combine hel pp with hel gun tho

[upper ginkgo]

you're waging a war against nothing

[spice hamlet]

because hel pp become a quick oh shit button to stabilize when getting overrun because your team did fuck all in pubs

also help setup penetrations

[civic wave]

can't you hel gun the wave as it's coming to you?

[hardy grotto]

They do

I’ve seen it vox

[spice hamlet]

and who doesn't like mag dumping a boosted hel pp into a tank, just to see it get staggered to death

[past mesa]

Hani

Is this player

[soft crater]

Short rifle support?

[spice hamlet]

well pubs love to bring machiguns or snipers or whatever ammo inneficient weapons there is

[hardy grotto]

Nah Hani actually does damage

[past mesa]

CS player

[spice hamlet]

ammo is scarce

[hardy grotto]

the gun itself doesn’t matter

[spice hamlet]

like real scarce

[civic wave]

short rifle is just waveclear, not support

[hardy grotto]

It’s the player

[civic wave]

^^

skill diff

[spice hamlet]

setup diff*

can't land all shots when you're running the game in foggy wave at 20 fps

[civic wave]

can't be a hardware diff if dropping down to 30fps doesn't stop people

[hardy grotto]

Also vox didn’t I message you about the support conversation a few days ago

I am NOT crazy

[upper ginkgo]

you're pretty high on the insane person tierlist ngl

[hardy grotto]

You’re at the absolute top

Freak

[civic wave]

maybe djdna was right...

[hardy grotto]

get away from me

[soft crater]

[spice hamlet]

doesn't stop me from playing but it sure as hell prevent me from snapping to target in a timely manner

[soft crater]

As If any vet here isn't some kind of crazy.

[green bronze]

am i a vet

[civic wave]

snapping isn't the problem, it's how much visual information you get + losing granularity

[hardy grotto]

no

[green bronze]

j play from r4 🤓 (alt)

[tardy ingot]

no

[civic wave]

you're a nuisance

[green bronze]

ok

[spice hamlet]

ye which make it hard because enemies start teleporting for you

tracking become much harder

[hardy grotto]

you might just be describing the client experience as well

depending on host

[spice hamlet]

well

add the client experience on top of low fps

[soft crater]

Client problems are fun

[hardy grotto]

it’s rough

[spice hamlet]

and you get peak gtfo gameplay

[hardy grotto]

I think the client experience is the worse of the 2 tbh

[green bronze]

i play on a laptop anf it works so well wdym

[hardy grotto]

I think west coast host is as far as I can go

anything more and it becomes too hard

[spice hamlet]

works well for most levels, but some of them have insane amount of fog particles

and it make my laptop drop fps

[green bronze]

lets get r2modman installed !

[spice hamlet]

[soft crater]

turn all graphics low

[spice hamlet]

can's see shadows anymore

[soft crater]

Worst case. Lowspecgaming

[green bronze]

reduce from full to quarter texture

[civic wave]

agreed

[soft crater]

Not true. I literally play on all low

[green bronze]

the most effective tbh

[soft crater]

[green bronze]

badger still carries on lowest settings

[upper ginkgo]

do I win against a charger in a 1v1 irl

[ocean spindle]

no

[upper ginkgo]

mfer does 4 dmg per punch

it takes 25 punches to down me

[green bronze]

tentacles...

[civic wave]

You're american you have a gun you win easy

[green bronze]

true

[civic wave]

Id have to settle for throwing crockery at it

[hardy grotto]

You definitely lose

[green bronze]

talking about having guns in usa

is it scary when people own guns actually threaten you with violence

you dont even know if they are for real or just joking

[past mesa]

How are you running out of ammo

So your main issue

Is your not shooting them all

what guns are you taking in special

Yeah have you beat r2d2 yet

[upper ginkgo]

please run triple sentry and bio

[past mesa]

Ah

Hm

Oh

So you haven’t play the game in a while either

Well unfortunately there isn’t an easy answer

[upper ginkgo]

it's worth replaying r1-r3 to review basics imo

[past mesa]

Taking sentries would be a good idea

[upper ginkgo]

but your special weapon choice kinda hinders your killing potential

[past mesa]

Tbh vox I think they should just beat r1c1

Then come back

If your set on beating r4d1

[upper ginkgo]

yeah but that doesn't necessarily address the immediate problem

LOL

[past mesa]

Unfortunately this game has a skill curve and your hitting the r1c1 wall

On r4d1 which hits a tad harder

But you need to kill all the enemies in reactors

you can’t really stack them forever on that level at least without boosters

[upper ginkgo]

I think running hel rifle and holding reactor solves their issue

[past mesa]

Hel Rilfe

Hel gun

[upper ginkgo]

like just being able to one tap enemies from 30m away is already a massive improvement

[past mesa]

They are very good unfortunately

triple the damage

[upper ginkgo]

vs having to 5 shot chargers in cqc with machinegun

[past mesa]

If your player is good enough yeah

it purely depends on players

Yeah also bring 3 sentries

And loot the side rooms

[upper ginkgo]

hel rifle only needs to land bodies btw

[past mesa]

R4d1 has infinite resources essentially

[upper ginkgo]

no need to land headshots

[past mesa]

^

[green bronze]

add me in that group chat i also waste time on anime games, i think we can get along

[past mesa]

Being 2 sniper

No

No

3 sentries 2 sniper one burst and bio

c foam is useless here and will just burn your tool for no reason

[upper ginkgo]

you can watch a guide video while you're at it

[past mesa]

You are lacking 3 rundowns knowledge

[upper ginkgo]

that's fair, I was under the impression that you want to complete the level by any means necessary

[past mesa]

I would love to see these players

On r4e1

[upper ginkgo]

gtfo likes to do a lot of "gotcha moments" so I can see how it would be frustrating to be steamrolled by something you didn't expect

that's gonna be a norm in the game unfortunately :(

[past mesa]

Don’t do secondary btw

if you finish the reactor

You will wipe 100%

[upper ginkgo]

1 in 4 retention rate...

[past mesa]

Yeah

This one will kill you

Did you do r4b2

Overload

back room

Yeah

[upper ginkgo]

gg

[past mesa]

you will wipe

you have to do secondary before main

for r4b2

[upper ginkgo]

you should do r1c1 then ngl

and maybe r3d1

as like benchmarks?

cause the game kinda just gets harder from there

[past mesa]

They are the first two tests

both are less than an hour of gameplay to get to

[upper ginkgo]

like barely beating a level just means it's gonna be only a short amount of time before you get hardstuck on the next level

game is very time intensive unfortunately

yeah it's good content regardless

[past mesa]

R3d1 one of the best levels in the game

Lack of content

My man

Ehhh

[upper ginkgo]

it'll be moderately hard but it's definitely doable with ur squad I think

game is a lot more combat oriented than it appears

so it's worth getting good at clicking heads and such

let's gooo

"game of the week"-type friends

[green bronze]

wtf i was joking you actually added me into the chat wtf wtf

[past mesa]

What bug

It does happen

Oh yeah it happens you guys are a tad unlucky

Unless your vpning

Might happen more

You can bug the lobby easily if your joining while death screen is up

[civic wave]

it may be tuesday night

every damn week

people forget

[soft crater]

Yep

[turbid horizon]

not that time yet

in like 40 minutes

[soft crater]

All of Tuesday be shite deadass.

[turbid horizon]

never noticed that tbh

[soft crater]

Not particularly before.

But afterwards

Everyone logging back in

[green bronze]

is your favourite level r5d1 by any chance (og)

[soft crater]

No

[finite oracle]

does E2 have a checkpoint?

[little pilot]

no

[finite oracle]

ok

[civic wave]

only E tier with a checkpoint is R8E1, and that's only an "E" tier (it's not an actual E tier difficulty wise)

[finite oracle]

i mean technically no one has "survived" the level wouldnt that clearly make it the hardest

[mossy dome]

r8a2 sec still harder same gimmick

iykyk

[green bronze]

i like how r8e1 is just a "fake ending"

signalis vibe 🤑🤑🤑

[soft crater]

Inb4 ppl who played R8 out of order

[tardy ingot]

the one time i get a spoiler for smth unrelated and its by you

[civic wave]

thanks simon

[winged mango]

Never completed r8e1 is it fun simon?

[spice hamlet]

comparable to R6C3

you're basically run' gunnin'

it trains you to speedrun objectives

[upper ginkgo]

I wish r8e1 was harder

I finally got my e-tier warden protocol level

and it's not even that fun :(

[past mesa]

no res

no need to fight

bad mix

[past mesa]

it would have gone so hard

[upper ginkgo]

the initial run section is ok

I'd probably do the first 2 minutes as a no ammo escape sequence

running through 3-4 zones from a surge

[past mesa]

that would go hard

as well

[upper ginkgo]

with rooms that have some population

the final room you enter has some cfoam nades and ammo

so you can nade some doors to buy you time to loot

do some terminal command to stop surge

and then clean up the surge with the ammo you just looted

r8e1 has some good idea tbh

just wished they did more

[past mesa]

i think r8e1 rn

is like cutscene

[minor fractal]

Secondary rework could improve it a lot. Make it a single Overload, like R7D1.

[upper ginkgo]

would you want the overload to be a level modifier or something like a side objective

[upper ginkgo]

yeah I think that was their intention

[past mesa]

yeah

[upper ginkgo]

the fake-out ending for it was pretty good during blind attempts

I think r8 suffers from having to balance cinematic moments and fun level design

[past mesa]

i think they did a really good job

[upper ginkgo]

so you end up getting a mixed bag of levels

[past mesa]

just r8e1

[upper ginkgo]

considering they were rushed ig

[past mesa]

is a dropped ball imo

[ocean spindle]

i think r8 is wonderful but the only very weak levels are c1 and e1

[past mesa]

we could have gotten a really soild 15 - 20 min e tier level

[ocean spindle]

think if e1 had way more stuff to do like collecting cells or optional resource rooms before the timer opened the door it would've been fun

and more room dividers

it's really easy to foam doors

[past mesa]

i think it needs less running and more fighting tbh

[upper ginkgo]

yeah I think there's a difficult balance to be dealt with when you have time gated levels

players that zoom through still need to be preoccupied

[past mesa]

i think we have had the convo before but warden objective levels

are just a tad weak in the game rn

[ocean spindle]

r6c3 did it really well with two optionals- maybe if secondary added the monsters and overload was an objective or something to keep u rlly busy it would've been funk

[past mesa]

r5b4 r6c3 r7c3 and r8e1

[upper ginkgo]

I think they're just not implemented the best way

[ocean spindle]

or maybe just a modifier for the level

[past mesa]

all have pretty big issues

[upper ginkgo]

I think r8e2 was a good way of doing warden protocol

[past mesa]

r8e2

was best warden protocol mission

[upper ginkgo]

time is limited but you can actually address if

[past mesa]

honstly it maybe one of the stronggest missions

in the game

[upper ginkgo]

the level isn't the time gate, you are

[past mesa]

it adds a mechainc that you have to deal with it

[upper ginkgo]

which plays really well

yeah

[past mesa]

i think r7 e1

was close to being a good e tier

the double tank fight

and perma foam strat on charger zone scan

probs just ruins it

[upper ginkgo]

if Pablo functioned better then probably

[past mesa]

he is fine

in the first alarm

Like

he is great in that one

[upper ginkgo]

yeah that's his best use

[past mesa]

he is perfect in code 4 stealth

[ocean spindle]

i like it in last code

it's a good jumpscare

[past mesa]

i would like it more

if all players

had to do the stealth

ngl

[upper ginkgo]

he doesn't function well when there's no team pressure

like team scans are required to make Pablo work

[past mesa]

i think you could just make the start of r7e1 a rush to the zone scan room

and place the double tank fight in there

with rising fog?

give him a tounge attack that does 15 damage

and then your good

[upper ginkgo]

you think the r7e1 rooms were good in general?

like is the current double tank fight in a good tile?

first alarm is in a pretty good tile

[past mesa]

i think

the doduble tank fight would be much better

in the room where the current zone scan is

[upper ginkgo]

yeah

[civic wave]

brazil skip with 2 tanks + pablo behind?

[upper ginkgo]

would be claustrophobic af tho with 3 boss enemies and 4 people lol

[past mesa]

yup but we dont get to have this

in the game

[plain snow]

any way of playing lockout without it crashing completely on launch?

various mods are deprecated on thunderstore when you intall dependencies

[past mesa]

it is tuesday

[plain snow]

I know it's tuesday but that's not it

[upper ginkgo]

might want to talk to the modding server

[past mesa]

lockout one or lockout 2

[plain snow]

because I can initiate any other mod or vanilla without issues

I know lockout is discountinued

[sturdy glen]

?

[plain snow]

but I saw some people are playing it still

so wondering

[past mesa]

they use either old versions of the game

[civic wave]

it's me musing

[past mesa]

or they have a fixed version*

[sturdy glen]

yea idk what youre musing there tho

[past mesa]

chill

could you kite

the two tanks

as well

in brazil skip

[civic wave]

jish saying about double tank fight going harder in zone scan room and me extrapolating that to a brazil skip

[sturdy glen]

probably

[past mesa]

we would just insant kill the tanks

[sturdy glen]

but theres no reason not to kill the tanks you have cell walk

[past mesa]

with doudlbe scatter

[civic wave]

yea

that's the main thing

you just kill tanks and go back to brazil skip

unless the tanks are part of the scan

[plain snow]

great mod

played occlusion not so long ago

[turbid horizon]

thanks!

glad you enjoyed it

[plain snow]

d3 my fav level

I can do my own thing without my team

[civic wave]

i have an urge to play old rundowns now but i should let my tendons rest

[plain snow]

[turbid horizon]

mmmm, it’s gonna be tuned up soon

[plain snow]

is it supposed to be so one sided?

[turbid horizon]

New mod dropped that fixes enemy AI with locked doors

[turbid horizon]

No lol

[plain snow]

like a couple of my teamm8s getting absolutely pummeled

while I just run around with no enemies

[turbid horizon]

Just limitations because 10CC never accounted for split teams

[plain snow]

[turbid horizon]

So the doors that shut allow enemies to pass through them because otherwise they get stuck to the door

I used a bug to intentionally desync the doors

Gtfo moment

[plain snow]

now gotta finish fatal experiment 2

[warm siren]

is it a bug that a big charger just started swinging his arms but at the same floats in the air and hits me under him cause taht just happened and ending a 2 hour run with no checkpoints

[digital mural]

Yeah things like that exist in GTFO

Enjoy

[native sun]

Snatcher spawns on class 5 start.
Brazil teleport occurs on class 5 complete.
Make the blood door way scarier.
Fix room scan to spawn from both sides. You can still perma-foam, but no teleport means you have to deal with the enemies when you're done.

I'd love to see how Pablo plays in the room scan, it goes kinda hard in duo, but if you have the tp to get rid of him then there's very little incentive to deal with the enemies.

[whole grove]

Why can't we have R6E1 level with a bbc fiesta happening because there needs to be an expedition with a lot of those

[soft crater]

Modded

Idk what level in vanilla has the most bbcs anyhow.

[civic wave]

r4c3 has a bunch

[noble sierra]

R8C2? Or you can say R5B1 and let the error alarm running...

[soft crater]

I guess you could just open the other error door and go throughout the rest of the level like that

[noble sierra]

^

[green galleon]

was quick uplink patched in R8?

[ocean spindle]

wtf is quick uplink?

[upper ginkgo]

probably using logs to read uplinks

if so, then yeah it was patched

[green galleon]

yeah

uplink terminal skip, quick uplink, speedy terminal

i don't think we had a name for that exploit

[ocean spindle]

i don't get it

like- u skip the loading with logs?

[green galleon]

can't have shit in the complex

[green galleon]

you can do multiple commands at the same time in a terminal

before r8 you could read the logs for the uplink codes

and do all of them at the same time

[ocean spindle]

but doesn't uplinks only have logs on another terminal when they are corrupted?

[upper ginkgo]

we're talking about notepad logs

like the logs that speedrunners use to determine key spawns and such

[ocean spindle]

ah

alright i get it

[green galleon]

ok so there is no way to know uplink codes anymore?

[upper ginkgo]

correct

they aren't logged onto logs anymore

[ocean spindle]

get gtfoed

[soft crater]

[green galleon]

get 10chambered

[green bronze]

sorry buddy

[digital mural]

HAHAHAHAH

Simon you are cooked

[green bronze]

cooked what

[digital mural]

cooked deez

gottem

[green bronze]

true

[soft crater]

disgust

[civic furnace]

Me when a bot :3

[lone mortar]

blud on league of legends

aint no way

[green bronze]

stop spying people wtf

(I'm spying on my Ariane)

[topaz anvil]

Stop spying on r4e1 duo

Smh

[green bronze]

😤

btw the glitch that you talked about earlier

it's not patched

it only requires a lagswitch

[topaz anvil]

Damn, so you bug abusing. I thought you were better 😔

[green bronze]

no we actually restarted when the game glitch out

if we wanted to abuse bug that bad we could just use door bug

more simple

[tardy ingot]

?

[green bronze]

the command in r8e2

ADMIN_TEMP_OVERRIDE

[tiny wyvern]

#gtfo-media message
This thing I believe is what they mean

[whole grove]

R4C3; R5B1; R8C2 yeah there are some but I find they're all manageable and it's only when the team can't deal with them that it gets scary. But nothing vanilla can compare to modded obviously.

[ocean spindle]

is c2 supposed to be bbc fiesta

it has them sleeping mostly at the start but after u get to the cluster they disappear pretty hard

[reef geyser]

**IF **gtfo were to port to console how do you solve the code typing problem ?

life the coding mechanic work well on pc cause of keybroad but on console it cant

so what the typing alternative solution for controller

[ocean spindle]

that's kinda why it isn't ported

i guess u could just use keyboard with controller but that would be slow as fuck

[reef geyser]

ok but if a game that also have a typing machanic like gtfo but want to port on console is there a way to faster type ?

[errant dome]

unless u connect a keyboard to your console dont think so

[civic furnace]

there is r6e1 in eternal :3

[green bronze]

voice recognition 🗣️

[ocean spindle]

iffy but i guess it's the best solution

[civic furnace]

there is also r3e1

[spice hamlet]

preset command

that's the fastest way

[ocean spindle]

presets would make it kinda broken to do on controller tho if everyone else has to type it manually

[spice hamlet]

that's the only way for controller to type as fast as keyboard

[green bronze]

we simply gatekeep

[spice hamlet]

otherwise you're just gutted by your controller choice

[ocean spindle]

we simply don't port gtfo to consoles

[green bronze]

console players are not allowed to play with pc

[green bronze]

why are you so TRUE and simple

[reef geyser]

noted

[ocean spindle]

when ps5 mimimimi no

stop

buy a pc

[spice hamlet]

but sir

[green bronze]

i need a xbox/ps arguement rn

[ocean spindle]

what :3

[spice hamlet]

if I don't own a ps controller

how am I supposed to install a strikepack

[green bronze]

u dont need to

[ocean spindle]

how bout u rebind ur keyboard instead

idk

[green bronze]

i thought we have macro and hardware mods for mouses and keyboard

[spice hamlet]

but then you wouldn't benefit from the strikepack innate recoil compensator

[ocean spindle]

drag ur mouse to match the recoil

that's ur compensator

ur skills

skill issue

[green bronze]

u need to learn more from pubg players buddy

[soft crater]

GTFOs recoil isn't even that bad.

Unless you're doing shit like Macro revolver

[tiny wyvern]

You don't even need macro revolver to feel revolver recoil

Just hip fire spam it

[spice hamlet]

macro short rifle

[tiny wyvern]

macro short rifle has managable recoil tho

[soft crater]

Macro short rifle is even easier

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah

[soft crater]

Tf r u on

[spice hamlet]

but ye macro revo & macro high cal are one of the worse

[soft crater]

Highcal is all visual

:P

[tiny wyvern]

macro high cal?

Why?

[spice hamlet]

you could technically

to one clip a hybrid

[reef geyser]

so what make gtfo a good coop game ? and what bad design that should be avoid and or tweak upon ?

[spice hamlet]

punishment for going solo

[silent delta]

macro precision rifle

[silent delta]

good: work together or die together, four players together is much stronger than one alone
bad: game can be buggy, a bunch of the guns and tools are kinda shit

[spice hamlet]

game doesn't remove your ability to go solo, but if you fuck up you're going to feel the consequences tenfold

[icy cave]

It kinda does by making it impossible to complete solo (vanilla, no glitch)

[errant dome]

what about main only?

[icy cave]

Even main only

[errant dome]

rip

[icy cave]

it is what it is

[civic furnace]

for what?

[minor fractal]

R7D1, R8E2

[icy cave]

To complete solo. vanilla no glitch

[spice hamlet]

oh yeah can't think how you'd be able to clear those solo

[ocean spindle]

funny saying ''main only' as if some levels without sectors werent also impossible

[icy cave]

R6CX, R7E1

[turbid horizon]

most content can be soloed without exploits, it’s just very hard

[civic furnace]

I dont play r7d1 so I cant tell

[turbid horizon]

Based

[errant dome]

i could see r7d1 being doable if you get godlike rng

[icy cave]

Key word is most.

[ocean spindle]

r7d1 it's just stupid rng

[civic furnace]

but most of the levels you can clear with no exploits

[errant dome]

but yea rest of those fair enough

[turbid horizon]

Yeah that’s what tnenpi did

[ocean spindle]

i don't think it's bad design that gtfo is made for more than one player tho, that's just how some games are and it's a choice

[icy cave]

Anyways statement still stands: Impossible to complete solo on vanilla glitchless

[icy cave]

It's what the devs wanted by design so no it's absolutely NOT a bad thing

[civic furnace]

ermm

[ocean spindle]

yeah it's just the game they wanted to make so

[minor fractal]

R7E1 seems very likely to be soloable.

[icy cave]

exactly

[icy cave]

Well I'll see the run posted then. It might be, but no one did

[green bronze]

R5E1 may be the most soloable E level ngl

[icy cave]

When it happens, guess we can scratch it off the list

[minor fractal]

No one could be asked is far from not being possible.

[ocean spindle]

r8e1 mayb but i guess it doesn't count

[spice hamlet]

how would you solo the room scan ?

[minor fractal]

R8E2 has actual barriers that make it unrunnable

[civic furnace]

really

[minor fractal]

Kite.

It's already been done.

[spice hamlet]

figured

[civic furnace]

without big flyer abuse?

[icy cave]

It's the reactor I'm worried about. I don't think there is a way to get codes and defend at the same time all alone

[upper ginkgo]

simplicity in co-op mechanics
i.e how people kill giants together, resource scarcity, team roles implemented through weapon / tool choice instead of having hero shooter system

[minor fractal]

Big flyer abuse isn't until reactor.

[civic furnace]

yeah

well reactor is like the only hard part

and the room scan can get annoying

I left the tanks alive while doing it

[minor fractal]

Reactor is already a solo hold

[civic furnace]

killing them is just too ammo wasteful

[icy cave]

A solo hold sure but add to it getting codes .. I dont know ...

[errant dome]

the fake e level, actually speaking of, what do people consider r8e1 in terms of the tiers?

d?

[upper ginkgo]

b

[frail heart]

C

[icy cave]

C

[frail heart]

Low c

[spice hamlet]

C

[errant dome]

fair

[green bronze]

wheres goku

[upper ginkgo]

long kiting

[hardy grotto]

sniping shit

[green bronze]

he can solo anything with his auto sniper

[upper ginkgo]

can we go back to og r4

[green bronze]

sure i have it installed

let's play

[civic wave]

sure voxy, I can ask Beth and hani as well

[upper ginkgo]

oh if you existed in og r4 then I don't want to go back anymore

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[errant dome]

dam

[green bronze]

i will crush your neck buddy

[tardy ingot]

Why r7d1? You can just long kite no?

[hardy grotto]

Vox just wants to go back to being a new player

[tardy ingot]

Like its not real gameplay but

[civic wave]

The deadly r4e1 streams still exist

[ocean spindle]

long kite to input the confirmation code

[frail heart]

R4E1 sub 33 when

[green bronze]

people circle kiting in reactor for 1 hour straight just to clear waves 🤑

[civic wave]

It'd suck to run

[frail heart]

I’d suck

[civic furnace]

waiting for you thigh boy

[frail heart]

I’m getting wings with Eva

Pull up

[ocean spindle]

nice

[upper ginkgo]

I shot deadly with choke mod in r4d1 and gas lighted him into thinking it was the sniper sentry

[civic furnace]

how romantic :3

[ocean spindle]

now i'm hungry

[minor fractal]

Which code specifically?

[frail heart]

He’s third wheeling

[civic furnace]

😭 who's 2nd wheeling

[icy cave]

Give me a theoretical rundown of all 4

[frail heart]

Dafuq does that mean 💀

[civic furnace]

girl

[civic wave]

You either do 7 waves at reactor and play cleaner/get better keys or you do one cycle and don't save the time we lost from less than perfect play

[frail heart]

What is that

[civic wave]

Or I guess with some miraculous keys and perfect play an 8 wave reactor could theoretically work for sub 33

[civic furnace]

GRRRRR frosty, who's your date :3

[minor fractal]

??

[frail heart]

My gf :P

[ocean spindle]

the wings are the second wheel

[frail heart]

Ong

[icy cave]

How would you go about it alone to get each code. seems timing might be tight and also managing the late tanks etc

[tardy ingot]

1st you can run inside once it opens
2nd is a bit rougher, but also technically doable
3rd and onwards become rough af without long kiting bs

Ive honestly come to the point where i think if you long kite most of a level its just an exploit run anyhow

[hardy grotto]

why would you long kite 3rd

[icy cave]

But would you get it in time if you long kite 3rd and 4th?

[hardy grotto]

Huh

[minor fractal]

2nd is easiest, lmfao

1st is much tighter

[civic furnace]

2nd is easier than first

[icy cave]

2nd seemed to be the least problematic honestly

I dunno man. I have the feeling at some point it would not become manageable anymore

[hardy grotto]

because we’ll definitely trust the feeling of the guy who talks about the game and doesn’t play it

[upper ginkgo]

what if we added a checkpoint to the level

[icy cave]

Fair enough. question still stands

[civic furnace]

be kind pookie :3

[frail heart]

I love those

[hardy grotto]

Ray would make checkpoint hells

[icy cave]

There is probably a mod for that

[frail heart]

MODS KILL HIM

NOWWWWW

[icy cave]

Now now. Tolerance and peace be upon you

[civic furnace]

cant relate

checkpoints GRRRRRRRRR

[icy cave]

Oh I agree the game is better off without em

[minor fractal]

Tanks would maybe be hard, but Scattergun exists, and you can just solo them.

[icy cave]

But some people want them and it's important to respect their opinions. even when wrong

[minor fractal]

And code 1 is the only code w/ a tight timing for the most part.

[icy cave]

Fair enough.

[native sun]

Once you clear code 1 the waves don't matter because you can spawn cap shadows

[icy cave]

Noting R7E1 down as: theoretically possible

[tiny wyvern]

nothing?

[frail heart]

Is it really a clear then 😔

[tiny wyvern]

you mean noting?

[icy cave]

?

[civic furnace]

actually never thought of that 😭 that sounds more fun the big flyer cap

girlie making me redo it

thank you tru pookie :3

[white quiver]

Hey guys. I'm looking at the internal names of the sleepers and I struggle to identify what enemies could these names be :

• ||SquidBoss||_VS (||SquidBoss is the Kraken||, not sure about that _VS)
• ShooterWave (I guess those are the Shooters spawned by Scouts ?)
• ||SquidBoss||_Big_Complex (Same here)
• Striker_Child_Nightmare (This designation is for the Babies spawned by Mothers, but there isn't a Nightmare Mother afaik)
  Any ideas ? Thanks 🙂

[icy cave]

About the 4th there ARE nightmare babies

[white quiver]

I must have forgotten where those are, I don't remember killing nightmare moms in R8

[ocean spindle]

squiboss big complex sounds like r8e2 but unsure

[white quiver]

my thoughts too, not sure

[icy cave]

R8A2 secondary. but they don't come from a nightmare mom

[civic wave]

||Mutiple krakens exist||
||Wave enemies have a different complexion, check alarm enemies vs regular enemies||

[ocean spindle]

also with rascal.exe

[tiny wyvern]

Ask in modded, they know this stuff better than we do

[white quiver]

I'll try over there, thanks for the tips everyone !

[past mesa]

Shooter wave

Is the red or bloody shooter

Compared to the white sleeping one

[past mesa]

The kracken is just a kracken with other abilities

Or health

They don’t work without being set up by whatever happens with the terminal before they spawn

[past mesa]

Just use cconsole

And spawn them in ngl

It will be very clear

[hazy wedge]

Striker_Child_Nightmare is as the name implies. There are baby nightmares in the game but they don’t spawn from a mother in vanilla

[safe cradle]

you can type START RASCAL.EXE to start an error with those on any level

Need to be Host

[turbid horizon]

In vanilla :3

[ashen frigate]

Let me guess, you created a Nightmare Mother, you monsters ? :)

[verbal zinc]

What's up bowling master

[turbid horizon]

eh, more along the lines of gave a megamom variant nightmare babies and nightmare strikers

Mom variants are fun

Especially now that we have 2 birthing abilities

[ashen frigate]

I'm sure you are mixing things up real good :)

[turbid horizon]

:3

[silent delta]

can we make a mom that births tanks

[silk radish]

Technically, yes, I think.

Though you really shouldn’t do that.

[past mesa]

vector based birthing

is possilbe

[turbid horizon]

oh dear god

do not

[turbid horizon]

i already did this

you need to limit it to like, 1 a minute for a balanced encounter

[past mesa]

yeah you can

[turbid horizon]

also for performance reasons

[past mesa]

and it is host side

not cilent dependent

🙂

[silent delta]

who said it had to be balanced

[turbid horizon]

once you get like 7 tanks, it creates issues

where they tongues go fucking insane

same with shockers

[silent delta]

dammit

[turbid horizon]

and also birthers (duh)

[silent delta]

sorry automod

h*ntai simulator

[silent delta]

MOMCEPTION

[turbid horizon]

do not make birthers birthing birthers

[silent delta]

ngl a mom birthing flyers would be cool

[turbid horizon]

biggest mistake of my modding career

[past mesa]

i loved it

[silent delta]

how long did it take to crash

[turbid horizon]

maybe one that does flyers and like, 1 shocker every 30

[silent delta]

can we make that mom fly too

[turbid horizon]

uhhhh once the 3rd round of birthers went to baby birthing

[past mesa]

if a mom is in this zone it births moms but in this zone it births tanks

[turbid horizon]

wait a minute

[silent delta]

honestly expected it to go sooner than that

[silent delta]

depends on which of the four players she has line of sight with

[past mesa]

ooooo

[silent delta]

the other 3 are all normal waves but if she has line of sight with hackett she starts birthing pablos

[turbid horizon]

What I would ideally do is make a megamom that births moms, that birth babies

[silent delta]

can she birth krakens

[past mesa]

with current scatter gun

this is fair game

[past mesa]

yes but no

[turbid horizon]

It is not current

it’s uhhh

[past mesa]

kracken needs the term command to set up

for some reason