gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

misinfo smh

[tardy ingot]

👉 no

[ocean spindle]

i knew it

u can eliminate that knowledge from ur brain

[silent delta]

ok cool i thought iw as losing my mind

[silent delta]

thank you

my brain's ram is at a premium

[grizzled patrol]

#gtfo-media message I dont have a fancy Console, so i tested it with replay wiever. I shot one Hel pp bullet at him right as he was about to gobble me up. It dealt 7.5 stagger damage even though the bullet itself dealt 1.5 damage. The hel pp 5x multiplier did get applied

[tardy ingot]

Did you try staggering the snatcher with 6 bullets

[grizzled patrol]

i will test it now

[tardy ingot]

combat shotgun would stagger in 2 shots

[grizzled patrol]

just tried it out, and it did not stagger even though it should have been enough

i guess it is a replay viewer oversight @pseudo coyote

also what is the silent shot counter even supposed to track? it appears to track every single tracer no matter the situation

[tardy ingot]

its probably a difference between snatcher ignoring stagger multis vs negating them

[topaz anvil]

Silent shots 😎

[pseudo coyote]

I'll look into it 👍

also the silent shot should not trigger on every tracer lmao maybe that's a bug with shotguns (or a host bug cuse im stoopid) haha

silent shooting is a bug in the game where quickly switching between items that can't shoot causes a client to shoot without making sound

[pseudo coyote]

This is not an oversight or a bug - pouncers require 50 stagger damage not 40 => it takes 7 hel pp shots to stagger

[grizzled patrol]

Thats how much i did with 2 Combat shotty shots

[pseudo coyote]

are u sure ? for me it reports that 2 does 12 stagger damage

both in replay recorder and in-game

which is defo not enough to stagger

[grizzled patrol]

#gtfo-media message

[tardy ingot]

From testings snatchers simply ignore stagger multis

and stagger at 40 dmg

this is easily tested since 2 hammers, a sniper shot, 5 hel revo shots etc stagger

[pseudo coyote]

might be my setup that im using to test -> i do recognise that u mentioned 40 only when its attacking etc...

ill try again 👍

[tardy ingot]

Oh and they also dont get staggered when running away

as in, you can pelt it with hel pp a million times. It dies before it would stagger then

[pseudo coyote]

ye u right - I was using a sleeping snatcher to test since it was easier - but when awake the behaviour is consistent to what u say 👍

replay recorder doesnt treat snatchers in any special way so it is indeed an oversight 😔

[minor fractal]

Stagger isn't used for Snatcher.

Oh, already discussed.

[soft crater]

I just shoot at the mf until it fuckin dies

[fallen kite]

real

stagger multiplier this

breakpoint that

just hold left click mf

[civic wave]

i like knowing practicalities

like don't trust a single shotgun shot to stagger giants, bad idea

1 hel revo or dmr shot will stagger a striker

[soft crater]

In particular it's just snatchers

[safe cradle]

From my personal experience I'm glad snatchers aren't used a lot since they look silly, they attack silly, and they tank silly. They also have silly bugs.

[sturdy glen]

you should see big flyers

[fallen kite]

It's unfortunate that this is the case

[soft crater]

me having playtested Yuki's Modded rundown B2

[hazy wedge]

I made snatchers have less armor because shoot head deal no damage is funky

[soft crater]

Hange was played with by like 12 snatchers

[fallen kite]

its good that brandon pointed this out

[safe cradle]

How many levels have those? R6AX,R6CX,R7E1 (I think), R7B3...

[fallen kite]

i can't remember when it was but there was a lengthy convo in the modded server summarised by "Snatcher head armour makes 0 sense"

@hazy wedge you should uise the potato more

[hazy wedge]

Compensated by adding more snatchers 👍

[minor fractal]

Staple randomizer enemy.

[safe cradle]

Is this like 100 Revenant maps of MurphyBlack?

[hazy wedge]

I would if I could find potato man in the datablocks

[fallen kite]

wait what

[hazy wedge]

Idk what that is

[fallen kite]

does potato man not exist

[safe cradle]

This comment wins a tropical.

[hazy wedge]

He does I just don’t know the name it goes by and it’s not Frank because apparently that’s the immortal when I tried

[fallen kite]

it might be a giant nightmare striker/shooter in the datablocks

[safe cradle]

Guy that makes maps for Doom has a shtick for maps with a fucktillion revenants and even made a "trolley problem" map with revenants

[hazy wedge]

C3 has potato man tho

[minor fractal]

It's big nightmare striker

[fallen kite]

^

[safe cradle]

Would you save 1 Revenant or 2 imps?

[hazy wedge]

Thanks Ray I will add 1 million potatoes

[fallen kite]

better than 1 million snatchers

🙏

[safe cradle]

what about potafingers?

[soft crater]

Hange: Better than an immortal

[hazy wedge]

It’s happening

Me when I need to add sleeping snatchers like Occlusion

Making custom blocks is hard guys I’m dumb af

[ocean spindle]

OCCLUSION GOD occlusion swipe

all day every year

[tardy ingot]

Yea that was my issue too when testing like 2 years back

[soft crater]

Will we ever see you in modded gtfo someday.

[fallen kite]

I understand

@soft crater we should play C3/D1 sometime

[hazy wedge]

Me when a gun in my rundown is named Revenant

[fallen kite]

I am yet to play these levels with a competant team

[tardy ingot]

Honestly
Good change

If someone rly wants them to stay as tanks. Just buff hp slightly lol, the armor is so???

[soft crater]

Tell IFO to Rebel against school

[hazy wedge]

🙏

[ocean spindle]

:[

[fallen kite]

I don't want to I feel like it'd be mean

just get someone other than IFO on

[soft crater]

We'll see.

My schedule has gotten busy as well unironcially

[fallen kite]

Start of the school year

thousand yard stare moment

[tardy ingot]

R6AX, R6CX, R7B3, R7C2, R7E1, R8B2

[safe cradle]

Thanks

[minor fractal]

Where in B2 btw?

Main?

[safe cradle]

So R8E2 only misses ||two potatoes||, Pablo, Big flyier and spitters?

[ocean spindle]

the end of ov as u extract

[safe cradle]

Then I think it has every kind of enemy, barring the weird think with kraken having 2 versions

[frail heart]

and bbc

[ocean spindle]

no not ov

sec

[minor fractal]

Demommy

[civic wave]

yea, extract after you complete sec

[ocean spindle]

if u do b2 main only the extract spawn it's just a wave of flyers

[civic wave]

if you do main only, no big flyer

[minor fractal]

Oh right.

[frail heart]

Erm actually its 3 🤓 ☝️

[safe cradle]

mh never noticed yeah

[ocean spindle]

nightmare baby

:O

[frail heart]

yeah theres only chargers at the end

[frail heart]

INFECTION SHOOTER

[ocean spindle]

so true

[fallen kite]

surprising tbh

[minor fractal]

Pablo, Potato, NMBB, DMom, BBC, Big Flyer

[safe cradle]

I was sure there were some in extraction

[frail heart]

Na just chargers

[safe cradle]

But it was like 1 AM

[frail heart]

5 tanks tho 🤡

[fallen kite]

happens

[fallen kite]

🤏

[tardy ingot]

Funny question for the vets
Without respawning, repeating reactor waves or intentionally delaying parts (ending scan specifically) how many tanks (roughly) can you fight in r8e2

[frail heart]

I KNOW I KNOW

[ocean spindle]

12~ or something

[fallen kite]

15

[ocean spindle]

i went not-in-order so

[fallen kite]

( i have never played this level this is guesswork )

[minor fractal]

11-12 assuming not extract p sure.

[ocean spindle]

oh wait maybe it's 13...

[tardy ingot]

extract counts

[minor fractal]

16-17?

[tardy ingot]

just only 1 spawn

[ocean spindle]

14 with good rng

13 with bad rng

that's my guess

[frail heart]

16

[minor fractal]

It varies because Kraken varies

unless you mean max RNG

[frail heart]

wait

3 before reactor

5 in reactor

[civic wave]

wasn't the answer ~19?

[safe cradle]

kraken room has 2

IIRC

[frail heart]

2-3 kraken zone

[ocean spindle]

kraken room has 2 or 3

[frail heart]

5 extract

[civic wave]

can have 3

[tardy ingot]

Different question

[ocean spindle]

one in the zone with the door
one in the command zone
one in the bulkhead
4 in the reactor waves
one in the reactor code zone
3-2 in kraken zone
3 in the ending

[minor fractal]

I think it is 16, I'm not sure what I double counted.

[frail heart]

5 in the ending

[ocean spindle]

oh 5 we concluded it was 5-

shit i forgot

[frail heart]

ya i was a little confused haha

so yeah 16

[tardy ingot]

people be forgetting corrupted scans

[ocean spindle]

those don't count

[frail heart]

oh true

so 18

[ocean spindle]

no one steps into those

everyone only steps in the first one

cause it's the funny one

[civic wave]

what about the scans in code 3?

[minor fractal]

It'd be +6 from scans, right?

[frail heart]

OHHH

[minor fractal]

2 + 4?

[frail heart]

yeah so 22

or something

its 4 in double mom room?

i believe

[minor fractal]

Think so.

[frail heart]

would have to double check

[tardy ingot]

21-22 (rng haha) and then add another slight rng on ending tanks

[frail heart]

yeah i think cap has to be free for all of them

[minor fractal]

When do the 5 tanks spawn?

[frail heart]

after last scan

[civic wave]

completion of small team scan to teleport iirc

[frail heart]

they sometimes spawn

yeah

i have a cip if you want

[safe cradle]

Why?

What's the point if you teleport?

[static gazelle]

funi

[frail heart]

idk funny

[safe cradle]

🤔

[minor fractal]

It's endearing.

[tardy ingot]

Now

How many levels have tanks

including r8e2

[civic wave]

o god

[tardy ingot]

10 sec answer

[frail heart]

27

idk

[ocean spindle]

80+ just name bigs 'tanks' and u got it

[frail heart]

id have to think

[tardy ingot]

How many levels dont have big strikers is the question :)

[static gazelle]

0

[frail heart]

alarms be like

[tardy ingot]

its actually so sad that due to scout waves and random enemy bs some enemies are common common

[civic wave]

r4c1, r4c3, r4d2, r4e1, r5b3, r5c2, r5d1, r5d2, r5e1, uuuhhhhh uhhhm uhhh r6d1, r6d2, r6d3, r7c3, r7d1, r7d2, r7e1, r8c1, r8d1, r8e1, r8a2, r8c2, r8d2, r8e2

I think that's all of them?

[keen seal]

R6C3

[tardy ingot]

R6D4, R6C3

[civic wave]

fuck i forgot about c3

[safe cradle]

r8b1

[tardy ingot]

R8B1

[civic wave]

where the hell is the tank in d4 i do not remember this

oh fucks sake r8b1 nobody runs that level

stupid secondary

[keen seal]

lol

[tardy ingot]

R8B3

[civic wave]

didn't they replace 2 snatchers with one tank

[ocean spindle]

:[

[civic wave]

ah right r8b3 sec, forgot about that one because you made me speedrun it

[ocean spindle]

also b3 still has another tank

in main

on one of the code doors

it auto wakes

[civic wave]

well, never been in there then!

[tardy ingot]

Blood door

[civic wave]

oh yes right

[safe cradle]

🤣 "Forgot that one, and it's your fault!"

[ocean spindle]

WHY NOt

do y'all pros just always do the same route kdmsk

[tardy ingot]

R8B4 only second half lvl to not have tank L

tbh only 3 levels dont at all
A1, (duh), B2 and B4

[tardy ingot]

Tbf we didnt even do the fastest route yet

[frail heart]

BANK ON A ONE LETTER CODE

[minor fractal]

4 R4
5 R5
5 R6
4 R7
9 R8

[ocean spindle]

i mean i dont mean speedruns only but in general ksks

[tardy ingot]

its,
Start error
Leave it running and hope you guess code

Then send 2 to extract while 1 defends uplink typer (who terminal skips each unique code)

[ocean spindle]

i mean but like in a second run

wouldn't u open those just to see

[safe cradle]

27 then

[ocean spindle]

even if u don't clear em

[tardy ingot]

In a normal run id do error and guess or tank + error (cuz tanks fun)
Shadow zones are boring

[ocean spindle]

yeah but u at least know there is shadows there kfmskd

[civic wave]

i still remember having to count up how many moms were in r4 for that quiz show

[ocean spindle]

u opened it at some point

[upper ginkgo]

shadow zone had a lot of ammo from what i remember tho

[tardy ingot]

basically
Theres as many tank spawns possible without repeats in r8e2 as theres levels with tanks

[upper ginkgo]

charger + boss zone is way more fun

[ocean spindle]

i like e2 but they could've

they could've changed it up

but well it's fine

[upper ginkgo]

e2 intro goes hard

I think kraken fight should've been something else

[ocean spindle]

i think kraken would've been fine if it feel more different

[upper ginkgo]

yeah I'd prefer if enemies besides flyers were rushing you during the fight

[safe cradle]

I dislike Kraken and everything before nightmare alarm

[upper ginkgo]

so it'd give shotgun players something to do

besides ferrying ammo

[ocean spindle]

maybe if it spawned enemies from the door that's already there
and also had new attacks

[civic wave]

level feels kinda boring tbh

[ocean spindle]

new kinds of projectiles

maybe a potato

attack

[safe cradle]

I think it's just boring after reactor

[tardy ingot]

tile set just breaks normal enemies there sadly

[ocean spindle]

maybe if it was like shorter harder and with more things at once

not just d1 again

but easier

[safe cradle]

Kraken is literally a "can you hug a wall and pop blisters without dying from fliers" check

[upper ginkgo]

mmm I feel like it'd be better if time was tighter

[ocean spindle]

they should've kept the 6 min run snatcher

would've made it interesting

[civic wave]

but then no duo runs :(

[tardy ingot]

Add shadow giants and bbcs/hybrids to shadow alarm
Add mom into kraken zone

Make enemies spawn through sec door there (and fix it breaking) and given kraken more attacks

#copium

[safe cradle]

Does it? out of all the times I failed that with pubs, only like 2-3 were because timer

and 2 of those because I didnt know the location of a terminal in second to last cocoon zone

[upper ginkgo]

I would sacrifice duo run viability if it meant a funner level

[tardy ingot]

Honestly
The scariest kraken attack is its worst one (red homing ones)

Its just hiding or dodging weirdly

make it barrage a lot more. So its active bullet hell

[safe cradle]

Timer never gets anyone killed since people just feel the time rush anyway and reactor is logically lenient since it's a timesink by design

[upper ginkgo]

actually thinking about it the time pressure wouldn't make it funner

I would like it to take the r5e1 approach or r6d4 approach

just having varied threats

or thematic zones

like charger, shadow, fog zone

nightmare zone

and smallish objectives

like error rush into cell hunt

[tardy ingot]

Give the option (and viable design) to do kraken and reacror at the same time

[upper ginkgo]

or a brief double uplink

[civic wave]

my suggestion to fix r8e2 - remove scattergun from game

[tardy ingot]

Would force them to fix the pathing and spawns tho

[tardy ingot]

Great now reactor is slightly more difficult and everything else barely changed

[past mesa]

It is a hard check

Ngl

Did you know

You can actually stop the flyers from spawning

[safe cradle]

no idea

[ocean spindle]

tbh if they had to fix it they probs would've eliminated it out of time constraints or made it differently

[past mesa]

You have to never lose los on kracken

For 6 seconds

[safe cradle]

Weird ass fuck mechanics this game has sometimes

I wont even ask why 🤣

[tardy ingot]

Haha funny code borked

[prime musk]

for r2d2 solo, one can start kiting either after wave 6 or after wave 8
i can't really decide what to go for
most references decide to do it after wave 8 because free giant cap with 200 and 199 but while i can hold waves, i don't think i can really deal with wave 7 and 8 (the code input inbetween mainly) solo

[hazy wedge]

Okay what am I supposed to do with this information

[prime musk]

i want someone who has successfully done it to advice what is harder

[hardy grotto]

well people kite after wave 8 because it IS just easier

kiting giants is rlly free

[tardy ingot]

Kiting

[prime musk]

ig ill just have to stop skill issuing during wave 7 and later then ig

im not worried about the kiting part tbh if i make it past wave 8 i think im set to clear

[silent delta]

try it with short rifle

[prime musk]

good idea, i won't run out of ammo then

(this is a thing that no one struggles with when soloing)

[finite oracle]

is there an easter egg if you use cheats to open a locked zone door in the tutorial?

[past mesa]

Technically yes

not in that level tho

[finite oracle]

im not taking about the r8a2 secondary

if thats what youre referencing

[ocean spindle]

if u open the tutorial it spawns a surge of tanks pretty much

the rooms are r1c2 charger introduction tiles but have nothing

except 2 3 more lockdown doors in a line

[finite oracle]

ok

[dusty crown]

JI

[pseudo coyote]

Fixed replay mod for the snatcher case 👍 should report back properly now

• also included stagger information in "Show Enemy Info" to make looking at it easier (host only feature)

[solemn stirrup]

how does one deal with the charger alarm on r3c1? i lost the run after opening the door to the zone with the HSU when like 36 chargers and a feeler caved my skull in

for weapon context i was using hel rifle since 30-damage gun into 30-health enemy seemed intelligent, but like ten seconds into opening the door the pack of chargers on the other side alerted and pissed off the feeler so the entire complex punched me in the head until i stopped moving. it was just so many guys

[upper ginkgo]

you just want to clear the zone as fast as possible

it's kinda rough but you want to find and shoot the scout asap

if the scout does wake up, you can try to hole up in a room and mine the door

with 3 bots it can be kinda rough

so you might want to give them anti-charger weapons (hi cal, choke mod, shotgun) if they're dying quick

other than that, there's not much strategy besides just shooting the bad guys before they can hit you

r3c1 has two zones where the hsu can spawn in

one is significantly easier than the other

so you can roll for that one instead if you want the level clear

[mossy dome]

what would you say are the easier learning curve top-tier weapons to get into? I did most of my first runthrough of the game with carbine/combat shotgun but would like to try experimenting more with the higher skill ceiling stuff

[past mesa]

Hel shotty scatter is the easiest?

[mossy dome]

haven't tried hel shotty much. I'm already pretty comfortable with scatter

[past mesa]

Hel shotty/hel rifle is the other good one

[mossy dome]

I'll give it a try, thank you

[past mesa]

If you can’t use hel shotty just used sawd off

[ocean spindle]

hel shotty is just knowing how to line up/bunch up enemies

same as with every other hel weapon pretty much

[silent delta]

bring hel rifle

[silent delta]

most of the shotguns, hel rifle, high cal, maybe burst cannon

oh yeah and scatter

[soft crater]

Mistakes were made. I helrifled my 3 teammates

[minor fractal]

Sawed-Off is much easier to play imo.

[fallen kite]

For nightmare enemies, does not hitting tumours just do 1x damage?

[topaz anvil]

Uhhhhhhhh not sure, time to spread misinformation. It'll do less damage than 1x

[civic wave]

same as any other enemy, but they have a tiny head and tumour gives you precision multi

[fallen kite]

ok sounds good

ty

[civic wave]

nightmare scouts have armoured bodies, so damage reduction if you don't hit tumour

[minor fractal]

If it isn't a white hit marker, it's 1x

[tiny wyvern]

@low radish charging your bat shouldn't stop your bat from bugging out

is your ping just bad?

[low radish]

I mean it happens randomly, sometimes works sometimes doesn't so i just charge, it works way better that way

[low radish]

nope

[tiny wyvern]

huh

[low radish]

My internet does dissconnect but then i can't do anything so that's normal

but when it works fine even when i hit the lock normally it doesn't budge at all
(sometimes it does budge but doesn't come off )

even with a clear hit, so sometimes i need to hit it twice or charge for it to work

[tardy ingot]

Yea thats desync

packet loss goes wooo

[low radish]

Huh weird

i never noticed that desync anywhere else

[low radish]

never noticed that tbh

[tiny wyvern]

Well that means you haven't found that out by you know

The game eating your melee on a scout

good for you

[low radish]

I never meele scouts because it always ends badly tbh

i tried and it usually ends with me walking into it or missing by one pixel

[silent delta]

they have a head?

[civic wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH02DVwL0iU

[silent delta]

i miss the person i was 20 seconds ago

[ocean spindle]

but it doesn't have a multi does it
i don't remember if we ever got confirmation of that

either way it's like impossible to hit it anyways

also doesn't the tumor on nightmare strikers n shooters is a x2

[silent delta]

its not that i care about it for gameplay reasons

i just hate knowing that it exists

[ocean spindle]

ik but the original question was for gameplay

[torpid marlin]

what's a good loadout for a rookie that's fresh from tutorial? i tend to enjoy up close and personal but i don't think melee combat is the best idea

[minor fractal]

Sawed-Off High-Cal or HEL Shotgun High-Cal

Pump shotgun and Combat Shotgun are also both really solid.

Probably play Carbine or HEL Revo w/

[safe cradle]

I'd say Carbine/HiCal is perhaps the harder to fuck up

Dont try to HS with the HiCal

[upper ginkgo]

sawed off is a hard recommend just because of how easy it is to use

and how much value you can get out of it

from minimal effort

[neon gust]

high cal high cal

[fringe comet]

whats the best loadout for not dying?

[noble sierra]

MEDIPACK

[soft crater]

Shift+W

[silent delta]

burst pistol short rifle

(kidding)

uhhhh, sawed off/carbine - shotgun/high cal/hel rifle?

[fringe comet]

oh i like shotguns

[digital mural]

Hel weapons

Thats all You need to know

[fringe comet]

are we even prisoners?

[digital mural]

No

But thats a lore question #gtfo-lore

[fringe comet]

cus like idk if its ethical to store prisoners like action figures

[digital mural]

We are not prisioners
We call ourselves prisioners since we cant get out of this mess

[tired hemlock]

Sources say it's not last I checked

[soft crater]

Putting prisoners into Hydrostasis.

Wild

[digital mural]

We actually are "resources"

Resources for the warden

Nothing more than just a pawn

[soft crater]

puts femboy activity into Hackett's objective stack

[digital mural]

What the

[tired hemlock]

If he uses us as game pieces

[soft crater]

[tired hemlock]

Does the warden metagame

Can the warden metagame

[digital mural]

The warden is more of: "random bullshit, go" kind of person

[tired hemlock]

He's not a metaslave, my kind of guy frfr

[soft crater]

Scientist when the Brainwashing neuralink didn't erase Wood's Religious beliefs

[tardy ingot]

Well he does spam us a lot cuz we do shit

which you could say is meta abuse

[digital mural]

Oh yeah

We are the perfect squad so yes

He is a meta slave

[tired hemlock]

Well there's meta and there's faves

Are we his faves

[little pilot]

The warden would never make me forget my love for bbcs

[tired hemlock]

Are we the blorbos

[ocean spindle]

we kinda are still prisoners

cause we cannot

leave

and stuff

which is kinda the definition of being a prisoner

[digital mural]

We are not actual prisioners, slendi

[ocean spindle]

i meannnnnnn

[digital mural]

We are kinda one

[ocean spindle]

:^

[digital mural]

But not one

[ocean spindle]

sounds like we are idk

[digital mural]

Also tbf we got ourselves into this mess

Our characters decided to be a KSO

[ocean spindle]

well

one did

woods bishop and dauda didn't had much of a choice

[digital mural]

Bishop fucked around and found out

[ocean spindle]

with the forcefully being imprisoned into the hsus

and stuff

[ocean spindle]

still forced

i mean prisoner by definition is just being caged and confined- both as retribution of their crimes or just in general

[digital mural]

Also Woods didnt joined the program as a volunteer? Or was it hackett

[ocean spindle]

so we are prisoners- the warden calls us prisoners etc etc

[ocean spindle]

woods was forceful- hackett was by himself

woods cause war prisoner and stuff

hackett cause he felt icky

[tardy ingot]

Didnt dauda technically decide to go into it

rather that than death or smth

[digital mural]

He did

He pretty much joined because he wanted to make things right

Or at least reedem himself

After what he did

[ocean spindle]

i mean depends on alt or og i think

og he did it to not die

[crisp salmon]

Will slug shotgun ever get a buff?

[tardy ingot]

No

[crisp salmon]

is 10 chambers done with balancing or something?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[sturdy glen]

theyre done with everything gtfo lol

[past mesa]

GTFO is over

[ocean spindle]

i guess u could say gtfo has

gtfod

[grizzled widget]

dafuq? literally only one of us -- hackett -- actually CHOSE to be turned into a KSO.

[digital mural]

Guys

I found a way to summon frosty into other chats

[grizzled widget]

the word "lore" i search the entire server for every couple days via search function

[digital mural]

Huh

[grizzled widget]

also also search for "story", "plot", "frostty"

[digital mural]

Bruh

You really love this game

[grizzled widget]

my brother in christ, i've literally been here for half a decade

i wouldn't still be here weren't that so, and you would have never met me

[digital mural]

do you think you will be here another 5 years?

[grizzled widget]

this is the only reason i even have discord installed, but it also depends on if this server lasts that long. being here "another five years" wouldn't be too terribly hard if there is one post in lore chat every three weeks

[digital mural]

One post every 3 weeks uh

🤔

HMMMMMMMMMM

[soft crater]

A rare Frostty outside of Lore

[grizzled widget]

you have a seperate frost(t)y for that.

[soft crater]

I know

anyhow I should stop procrastinating my cleaning I gotta go do

[grizzled widget]

even if i don't reply, i like to read anything and everything associated with the lore

[digital mural]

Uuuuh

Interesting

[frail heart]

THATS ME

[topaz anvil]

Boooo! Get this joker outta here

[modest pasture]

can someone tell me the mod name of this GIF is someone knows

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gtfo-meme-get-on-gtfo-birther-mother-gif-25917857

[tiny wyvern]

no perms here

post it in media

[topaz anvil]

Pretty sure someone just took the model and attached the animation to it. No mods

[ocean spindle]

either way that just most probs an animation

[modest pasture]

😭

[finite oracle]

is the burst cannon worth using?

compared to like scatter/sniper

[errant dome]

yes

also sniper is honestly trash in its current state

[ocean spindle]

actually is completely worth to just ditch the sniper

so yeah

snipers rlly the only outright bad special weapon- along with maybe short rifle

but i think snipers worse in my opinion

[finite oracle]

can the burst 1 shot giants?

[errant dome]

its OK in r2d2, but that's legit the only level i would even think of bringing sniper, and even then its certainly not my first option

[ocean spindle]

it's two bursts to the front

one burst to the back

[finite oracle]

what about tanks/mothers

[errant dome]

really high dps on those

[ocean spindle]

it does pretty good damage to them- although scattergun it's still the best for that

10x times better than sniper tho

[errant dome]

^

[ocean spindle]

sniper is the slowest gun killing a mother in the game

slower than an autopistol

[errant dome]

how many times does a mother birth when u try to kill it with a sniper i wonder, i might try that for the lulz xd

[tardy ingot]

Once if you do it perfectly

[errant dome]

prolly tight af timing?

[finite oracle]

what was the sniper nerfs? wasnt it just ads times or did they lower the damage values

[tardy ingot]

it takes less than 20 seconds to kill
Youve got time

[ocean spindle]

2 in mag

instead of 3 which it used to be

[errant dome]

hmm, i see

[ocean spindle]

apart from that some minor stuff like more recoil and less hipfire precision

[errant dome]

they also nerfed reload time iirc

biggest one was reducing from 3 to 2 in a clip tho

[tardy ingot]

Reload cancel was nerfed
And firerate too

[finite oracle]

ok

[errant dome]

ah ya reload cancel, rip

[tardy ingot]

sniper needing 8 total shots is just kinda troll for mom

[tiny wyvern]

So you'd think that the sniper rifle's magazine would have more than 2 bullets

Like it's a big mag

[finite oracle]

do the devs intend to ever make balance updates for the game? i know they said "couldnt promise any new content" but does that also include weapon balancing?

[tiny wyvern]

nah

I mean they put a banger trailer for gtfo recently

but that's just bait for...

rustles papers

den... of... wolves

I don't know what it is, but it probs isn't a furry game

Maybe something like payday

[ocean spindle]

i don't think it's bait i think it's a trailer that just shows the game

[tiny wyvern]

yea you're probably right

still for something as hype as that

the final chapter feels like it's describing something that doesn't exist yet

Not something that's already here

[ocean spindle]

...
i mean

i disagree ksks

i think r8 does very much final chaptery

[tiny wyvern]

no i mean the trailer makes it look like it's still in development
but r8's out

[spiral orbit]

i can see someone from a lobby and they cannot see me either, any way of fixing this?

[past mesa]

redrop

either one of

you

[spiral orbit]

i tried on my part

[past mesa]

didnt work?

[spiral orbit]

nope

it keeps being the same

[soft crater]

Remake lobby/everyone restart game worst case :P

Otherwise it's likely still the steam issue

[minor fractal]

It's steam issue.

Been going on all day, unfort.

[spiral orbit]

oh steam issue? so there ain't a way to fix it?

rn we're kinda just ghost players

[minor fractal]

We wait.

[spiral orbit]

terminals look like working on their own from my side xd

[minor fractal]

Doesn't seem like there's any option for a client-side fix.

[low radish]

today i had a game where two players could sit on one terminal and talk

it was beautiful

[spiral orbit]

like on the same terminal at once?

[low radish]

yes

We could both type in commands and talk to eachother

[spiral orbit]

[wet bear]

You can sit with all 4 players on 1 terminal, this game is beautiful yes

[low radish]

we only could do 2

[wet bear]

Try harder

[low radish]

no

[tiny pelican]

Anyone knows a fix to not being able to see a friend in a lobby? (3 man lobby)

[wet bear]

Enroll in steam as worker and fix steam

[tiny pelican]

I boiled water, what next?

[wet bear]

Drink it

[tiny pelican]

I drank it, I still can't see my friend tho

[wet bear]

Pour it down on it

[tiny pelican]

But like jokes asides, really no fix on it?

[wet bear]

It depends, it can be because of steam is broken today, or just desync

[tiny pelican]

Oh okay, so steam related issue oki doki ty

[lone mortar]

The leonardos lag infection

[wet bear]

The Kaiseros lagging for a few months cos of repeating messages to everyone

[lone mortar]

Shit hes got a point

Dang it

[raven sluice]

how does someone fix the biotracker sound constantly pinging

[noble sierra]

Find something moving to ping

[raven sluice]

okay thanks

[finite oracle]

theres an achievemnt called "unmasked" on the global steam achievemnts that has 0% completion, does anyone know what it is?

[fierce walrus]

what how

people have gotten all achievements, steam should say atleast like 0.1%

[finite oracle]

is it an r8 related achievment?

[devout whale]

"find all character backstory logs in ALT://R5"

[finite oracle]

ok

[fierce walrus]

weird why does it say 0%

people have defo gotten it

im p sure i’ve gotten it myself

[ocean spindle]

not a lot of people read logs

probs most of the people who got it is just chasing the d-lock decipher achievement

[fierce walrus]

Well it should atleast be like 0.1% no?

not a hard 0

[ocean spindle]

i mean not if the numbers extremely low

[fierce walrus]

well

doesnt the all logs achi have 0.1% tho

meaning that less people have got all logs in Alt R5 than have gotten all the logs

which makes no sense

[devout whale]

i think the % of the achievements are all kind of random

like die together "fail an expedition for the first time" 18%

makes no sense

[fierce walrus]

it does

the % counts all players ever

and the achievements were added in one of the last updates

[ocean spindle]

in that case yes but i cannot check

maybe the unmasked isn't even 0.0 but 0.1 too

[fierce walrus]

Im looking at it rn

its 0%

[devout whale]

it says 0 for me too

[fierce walrus]

and its the only achievement that says 0% too

[ocean spindle]

alright no idea

[fierce walrus]

they didnt like, shadow patch it right

[ocean spindle]

something's probs wonky with steam rather

[fierce walrus]

and its a brand new achievement

[ocean spindle]

no

it was always there

[fierce walrus]

I guess its just steam being funky

[ocean spindle]

funny lil platform

[solemn stirrup]

so im still taking stealth a bit cautiously due to using three bots, and its making a lot of missions much longer than what feels reasonable. an example is the fog room in r3c1 which took me like 20 minutes, and i really dont want to stealth that room again. is there merit to just saying "fuck this im shooting this room up" sometimes or is that a bad behavior to learn since the reason for shooting the room is that i kinda feel like it and its willingly draining resources?

[safe cradle]

I'll tell you a secret, SacredMachine

You ready?

[fierce walrus]

Pulling rooms (aka shooting them up) is a completely valid strategy
Although in some cases you might just wanna go in and melee all the enemies (by just walking or running up to them) especially as bots will shoot anything too dangerous to melee

[safe cradle]

||Bots cant wake enemies up||.

[fierce walrus]

oh yeah also that

[safe cradle]

On a more serious note, in R3C1, just pull the rooms with fog in it.

Of course if there's a scout pull them by HEL Rifling, or whatever you prefer, the Scout

[fierce walrus]

or just do a chad move and pull the scout too

[safe cradle]

With R3C1 I'd say that if you arrive at error badly put on resources, you're doing (or you did) something very wrong

[fierce walrus]

actually wait is R3C1 the shit mission thats boring af and then has an actually possibly hard error at the end?

[safe cradle]

Personally I wouldn't bother with the res zone there because it's a pain in the ass

[safe cradle]

I like it. It's the one with error charger at the end.

[civic wave]

There is enough ammo to shoot most missions up, so long as you can aim

I mean, even after pulling a room you can use a mine, or melee half of it, use sentry, etc etc

To save some ammo

[safe cradle]

Wait a sec 20mins for the "fog room"?

damn just pull that room

Worse case scenario it's 2 giants and like what, 10-15 enemies?

[fierce walrus]

god id rather uninstall the game than slow stealth that mission
dont ask me how many times the chargers steamrolled me there due to shit spawns

[civic wave]

Yea, and like

[safe cradle]

shoot room, go on a corridor at the top and resist

Where you fight enemies matters a lot

[civic wave]

There's 3 rooms on path with fog in, half of one is outside the fog

Then there's another side room in the fog that could have resources

So 3.5 rooms really

[safe cradle]

I usually only get in that side room if there's a scout because I'm afraid of chargers spawning inside there when I go back (even if it's VERY improbable).

[solemn stirrup]

yeah my issue was that when i got deep enough i had to stealth past like three bigs and a couple smalls and i know from experience that bigs have an insane kill rate out of stealth, they just start swinging and all the bots die cause theyre bots. the room immediately after had a feeler and like ten smalls so that took forever to sync up. it sucked it just sucked

and i have been aware of the silent bot thing for a while, i will try just blasting into the room next time

[safe cradle]

The main issue in that case is that you're gonna have to go back rushing

So you kinda NEED to clear those rooms no matter what

[ocean spindle]

practice meleeing giants with bots, if i do it well they usually don't get hit

[hardy grotto]

Chat is steam still having issues

[ocean spindle]

make sure they are close, first hit to the occi, continue with back damage to break limbs

[ocean spindle]

mods, steam their issues

[idk]

[devout whale]

i didn't have problems the last few games

[hardy grotto]

sick

[civic wave]

Looks back to normal yea

[finite badger]

Worked yesterday when trying with goat

so obvious skill issue on your part

WorksOnMyMachine(tm)

[civic wave]

Gerz was never the one having issues

[hardy grotto]

I guess I should’ve cleared my download cache like that one guy said yesterday

[civic wave]

Rip nuggies rip joe

[hardy grotto]

Surely that would’ve solved my issues

[finite badger]

Pretty sure it wasn't about DL cache

but DL region?

[civic wave]

Apparently people setting their download server to London worked

[finite badger]

ye

Rare Brexit advantage moment

[hardy grotto]

Glad we left the eu so we could avoid this steam issue

so worth it

[civic wave]

Goldenshooter managed to connect after clearing download cache but it'll have been placebo

[finite badger]

Oh rip u british too?

My condolescences

[civic wave]

Ya, she's one of my friends

[finite badger]

There is no clear causation here

Goat just said we aren't friends </3

[wet bear]

Glad I haven't been a part of eu

[civic wave]

I never said that, preposterous

[silent delta]

Gost is British?

Damn so sorry hope you recover soon 🙏

[civic wave]

There is nothing wrong with me, there is everything wrong with British institutions

[lime wasp]

@pseudo coyote Yo, i have a question regarding stats on replay viewer. is there a way to see everyone's stats when I'm not the host? or is it strictly host only to get the damage stats and allat?

idk if someone asked this already or anything so sorry in advance

[tiny wyvern]

only host sees damage stats

Something about how this game processes info

Same as why when you're off host when you kill enemies the death marker doesn't stick to the enemy, it's in the middle of the screen

Don't quite remember the full explanation

[lime wasp]

ah ok

@opal kayak get da mod bro

[tiny wyvern]

also for mods
ask in modded

People there know mods better than main server

So they'll be able to explain better

[lime wasp]

ah soz, will do next time :)

[empty narwhal]

Hey guys, I can't find the answer anywhere : do mines damages stack ? Like if I place two mines on a door and an enemy triggers both at the same time within the same distance, does it take 100 damages or 50 ?

[tiny wyvern]

It does two mine's worth of damage

[empty narwhal]

Thank you very much !

[tiny wyvern]

I don't remember how much

[tiny wyvern]

You almost never do that though

[empty narwhal]

With my friends we are at the first Big Mother, I needed that info to see if I take the launcher or not for this mission

[tiny wyvern]

You're going to try and stack mines to kill mom

how

You do know that she has armor right
if you don't hit tumor she doesn't take damage

[empty narwhal]

trapping the door we need to open with as much mines and push the Mother through it

hopefully the mines damage all the tumors at once

[tiny wyvern]

If the mine doesn't hit tumor it does nothing

right slendo?

[ocean spindle]

mines don't work well for moms cause if it hits anywhere else

0 dmg pretty much

[empty narwhal]

ah shame

[ocean spindle]

at that point u might as well rush with weapons- it would be the better option anyway

[empty narwhal]

ye

[ocean spindle]

it's not that hard to just rush kill the babies and then center on her

as long as u got one or two good weaponry for baby kill

[tiny wyvern]

You rush with scatter machine gun or hel shotgun and just burst her down
else she runs you over

And you die

[civic wave]

might as well try cooking with mines

it's funny

[tiny wyvern]

first big mom

[ocean spindle]

machinegun or hel shotgun is for babies

[tiny wyvern]

Which is R3D1

[ocean spindle]

scattergun would be for mom

[tiny wyvern]

Funny doesn't mean he should throw the mission

[empty narwhal]

I find the HEL shotgun extremely weak, maybe I don't use it properly ?

[civic wave]

it's never the first mistake that throws the run

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah tru

[civic wave]

it's a strange and unintuitive weapon, but incredibly strong

[empty narwhal]

ah ye the Hel shotty for the babies, not the mom

[ocean spindle]

it's a two tap in small enemies, stagger keeps them in place, hel goes through enemies, large cone means u hit several with oneshot, large mag to keep the entire wave in place

[tiny wyvern]

No you shoot the mom and kill the babies through mom

[ocean spindle]

it is an EXTREMELY good weapon for crowds

[civic wave]

oh for babies you pace your clicks and kill most of everything

[ocean spindle]

any crowd

[tiny wyvern]

While they're birthing

[civic wave]

when the mom is birthing

[empty narwhal]

Lol, I never knew that

[ocean spindle]

it works wonderfully for babies but hel shottie is also incredible for any wave

of any enemy

[empty narwhal]

Thanks for the tips !

[silent delta]

hel shotty my beloved

[dire torrent]

Out of curiosity, how does lore work in the game? I know the yellow excursions mean there’s lore in the mission, but I was curious if any other effort is needed due to the nature of the game (still in rundown 1 lol)

[civic wave]

There's a lot of worldbuilding and background info given through terminal logs which are dispersed throughought nearly every mission

There are some direct story elements that you're forced to interact with in R7 and R8, and additionally some story elements during gameplay in ALT R6 that are possible to miss

[digital mural]

most of the lore are in logs

after Rundown 6 the lore starts to be more "obvious"

and the yellow missions are lore focused

[dire torrent]

Oh gotcha!
Thank you!

[civic wave]

I would personally not describe it as yellow missions being lore focused

[digital mural]

They are tho

[civic wave]

some of them are

[digital mural]

They focus more on the story of the actual events in the game

[civic wave]

generally they contain direct story elements

[digital mural]

Some have dialogue other are telling The story by environments

R6 tells the story through the warps to Destination

The MWP, etc

[civic wave]

used to be more direct story elements in R6 but then WHOOPS! THEY ALL GOT DELETED IN ALT R6

[upper ginkgo]

it's caused everyone complained about the

[digital mural]

Unfortunate

[upper ginkgo]

audio logs playing during a team scan

THIS IS DR. REBECCA STOKES

[fierce walrus]

Rip DR REBECCA STOKES, best part of og R6 by far

surely im not the only one who enjoyed those
Right?

[digital mural]

Weirdo

[past mesa]

I enjoyed them

The 2 mins forced to listen to them wasn’t the best

I like how they did it in r7 and r8 more

[fierce walrus]

Okay yeah i can agree on that part

[upper ginkgo]

it'd be cooler if it actually worked properly

[fierce walrus]

but i still wish they kept them

[fierce walrus]

me when subtitles are fucked
again

[past mesa]

It would be industry standard if the subtitles and the audio work correctly

[upper ginkgo]

i just want my lore drop, but then people enter combat state and the lore gets cut off :(

[past mesa]

Just be just

Host

[upper ginkgo]

don't worry, i have high expectations they'll fix this issue in den of wolves

surely all the issues with gtfo are a result of only being developed by 10 people initially and amassing massive tech debt from their lack or manpower

[civic furnace]

sorry

[minor seal]

anyone know if getting hit by enemies is host or clientside? (as a client)

[tiny wyvern]

I believe damage is host sided
Why are you asking?

[minor seal]

just curious, i was playing a high ping match yesterday and got hit a bunch when i thought i dodged it.

[sturdy glen]

yea you just get fucked as client

[minor seal]

ive got like a full 1 second delay whenever i hit stuff in the matches i play so i need to get used to it

[noble sierra]

It is calculated in host-side, so yeah high latency makes you harder to swim among sleepers

[storm nexus]

Has anyone ever bugged a mission necessary terminal on r2c1 so that the team had to kill themselves and restart. My team somehow managed to do that last night.

[ocean spindle]

depends on the bug cause if it is something like the terminal screen freezes, there's desync and that person if they leave it fixes it

unless it's the host and then it's just fucked up forever

and u need a host migration

[floral acorn]

nointerruptions is a mod that fixes the terminal freeze thing

everyone just step back and let the terminal reset back to sleep -> booyah.

[ocean spindle]

does it work on client

if so to add it to my imaginary list of mods for when i get my pc back

[storm nexus]

Killing ourselves with land mines did the trick

[ocean spindle]

u kno i like killing people as much as the next guy but there is options

[storm nexus]

It wouldn't reset so we opted for team suicide and it worked

[strange jolt]

im not sure if im going to consider completely redoing the level a "working" solution

unless of course you guys were close to a checkpoint

[storm nexus]

Stepping back however didn't

[storm nexus]

It was that or disband and rejoin. Those were the ideas we came up with so we chose the quickest route

[noble sierra]

Eventually you'll encounter some unfortunate reset anyway

[ocean spindle]

i mean

[storm nexus]

And i never get checkpoints. I've only gotten one in r1b1

[ocean spindle]

r1a1- yeah checkpoints reappear in r6

[noble sierra]

2 days ago I have a R8E2 run failed at extraction scan because the host got grabbed into the void 🙂

[strange jolt]

like slendi mentioned you couldve tried host migration (just have host leave and hope the rollback fixes the terminal)

but id rather just reset as well ngl

[storm nexus]

The second go on r2c1 was an unfortunate set of events that ended in 4 of the 5 (or 5-6) scouts getting angry and us dying.

[strange jolt]

lmao

better to just have the brazil guy leave

and rejoin right after scan

unfortunate though

[storm nexus]

As in fell through the map?

???

[strange jolt]

bug with a specific enemy

might be a spoiler for you if you care about it

[noble sierra]

Oh, we did try let the host leave and triggered the migration. After migration the level simply can't progress, it prompts to call the other team but can't interact with the comms anymore

[storm nexus]

Im usually ok with spoilers but for some reason this game is a tad different

[ocean spindle]

not host migration
just having the person with desync disconnect
and if it is the host well then yes reset

[storm nexus]

Desync as in?

[ocean spindle]

lag

[strange jolt]

the goober who got the terminal locked

[ocean spindle]

basically

[storm nexus]

Oh we didn't have lag

I actually never lag in that game despite my system

[strange jolt]

you definitely did unless theres another cause for terminal lock im missing

[strange jolt]

were talking connection

issues

not hardware

a desynced player interacting with the environment causes problems

[storm nexus]

Someone was fucking with it and suddenly it stopped. No one had connection issues especially not me and i was host

[strange jolt]

hmm

its gonna be funny if

[tardy ingot]

desync can always happen outta nowhere

[strange jolt]

one of you just didnt walk back far enough

[tardy ingot]

you dont need to be "lagging" for it to appear

[strange jolt]

from the terminal

[tardy ingot]

you usually just dont realize it as heavily as you do with terminals getting stuck

[storm nexus]

It was one of the best group chats ive been in because the second i suggested we kill each other to go back into the lobby it was sudden anarchy

And the best one with random players

[storm nexus]

I can't really say any of us had connection issues.

[tardy ingot]

someone did

if the terminal became inaccessible it happened for a moment

[storm nexus]

What are the toxicity levels of this games community. So far I've had good experiences.

[tardy ingot]

depends

[storm nexus]

Everyone is helpful and patient so far

[tardy ingot]

the worst people are banned by this point (mostly)

[strange jolt]

most people are normal but if you play with randoms enough you will eventually get weirdos

[storm nexus]

Wierdos such as?

[strange jolt]

either really stuck up people or straight up cheaters

[storm nexus]

Oh
I though you meant wierdos as in odd balls not assholes and people with a critical skill issue

[ocean spindle]

the oddballs are some of the funniest people to play so they don't count towards toxicity

[storm nexus]

Well yeah

I'm literally Weapons Grade Autism

[ocean spindle]

me seeing a horde of 20 enemies: i bet i could melee that

[strange jolt]

oddball spotted 🫵

[storm nexus]

Ever see meet the sniper from piemations. How he goes "stabbin time" i saw someone do that and clear a room alone while pissing off everything there

[ocean spindle]

:O

[ocean spindle]

i do it for the funnies tho i don't expect to live after that

[storm nexus]

I charge into hordes with the scattergun specifically to kill the biggins

I either instantly die or somehow survive and run around in the middle of the horde like a headless chicken after using the emergency put er down device.

[ocean spindle]

i always go for funny silly guns so i barely pick scattergun ever unless i see we might need it

my go to are usually autos cause i like the pew pew

[mossy dome]

for soloing r1b1, would the experienced players have a suggestion as far as going for the alarm first or the non-alarm door first? I could see both schools of thought

[storm nexus]

It just feels like a shnotty. Too bad its magazine is so limiting

[mossy dome]

struggling with skill issue because I don't play with the pistols and am bad :>

[storm nexus]

Id say alarm first so you dont have to deal with them coming from the non alarm

[strange jolt]

you can open up non alarm door to push spawns further

and just have a burst sentry with you it will carry

[storm nexus]

That pushed spawns further?

[strange jolt]

otherwise they will spawn from extract

which is way closer

[storm nexus]

Oh

[mossy dome]

ye I have tried a few times pulling alarm immediately and got fairly overwhelmed other than the one time I brought c-foam, but then there were too many shooters piled up together and every time I peeked I got gatling gunned

[ocean spindle]

enemies try to spawn two rooms away
if u go for alarm first they have room only to spawn from extract, but if u open the other door they have space

[mossy dome]

I'll try clearing deeper and see how it goes

[storm nexus]

But wouldn't they spawn from both sides?

[mossy dome]

burst over sniper?

[strange jolt]

no since extract is one room away

[ocean spindle]

i would way more recommend burst over sniper cause it's way more flexible
but maybe also mines

[strange jolt]

it is impossible for them to spawn there

[ocean spindle]

if u push spawns u can have a door to mine

[strange jolt]

they only do because theres no other choice unless you open up the non alarm one

[ocean spindle]

plus mines for pulling the giant zone are very useful

and u don't need to do any class III

[mossy dome]

wow im just an idiot lmfao

[ocean spindle]

nah it's ok- many people gravitate towards foam but it's not usually the answer

[mossy dome]

i've legitimately been playing the level thinking they'd be 50/50 from spawn or non-alarm door

[ocean spindle]

oh ksks

funny spawn mechanics

[mossy dome]

how have I beaten the game with a brain like this

[ocean spindle]

i mean the game doesn't rlly tell u so

it makes sense

[mossy dome]

no I know how spawning works I just

[hardy grotto]

roll the dice

[mossy dome]

brain no work

[storm nexus]

Hey so how common is is for the creatures to spawn behind you while extracting

[hardy grotto]

behind you?

like on extract scan with you?

[mossy dome]

0 unless it's one of the funny levels where that's hard coded in

[storm nexus]

From the hole at spawn

[civic wave]

What level were you playing?

They don't spawn in the void behind you, with 1 (or maybe two, can't remember) exceptions

[storm nexus]

I forget which one did it but it could be anywhere between r1d1 and r2b1

[digital mural]

In one level they spawn fliers in there

In the hole

[hardy grotto]

R1d1 probably

[grizzled patrol]

Depends on where the Team is. If one fella is still 2 rooms away it can make them Spawn on the extract

[civic wave]

I mean maybe it's 2 room distance playing funny so they spawned in extract room

[hardy grotto]

If they spawn there it’s because people are 2 rooms away so wave is just spawning on you

unfort

[civic wave]

But that's due to spawning rules mainly, though later levels do have waves set to spawn from the direction of elevator

[storm nexus]

That would actually explain it

[civic wave]

Which means they'll spawn in the room with you

[mossy dome]

weird spawning question i thought of but have never actually tried in a game, if you're doing uplink in a zone where you can spawnblock all rooms, does it just randomly select a room for enemies to spawn in, or is there a rule?

[ocean spindle]

they spawn off a random player

so they spawn in top of someone

[mossy dome]

it's random though, not like the same room each time based on distance or anything?

[ocean spindle]

no it's not distance it's just based off a random player ksks

[mossy dome]

interesting, thanks

[storm nexus]

Hey can you manipulate spawn in r1c1 by holding back until you hear the scream and then spread them apart by entering the room immediately in front of you

[ocean spindle]

on some special things like reactors- [like r1c1] i'd u push them back enough yeah they spawn in top of u

it's funny

[hardy grotto]

Sure

But I’m not sure why you would

And you can only do that by forcing half the wave to spawn further back

[storm nexus]

Smaller groups are easier to manage

[storm nexus]

That was the idea

[grizzled patrol]

You can Block spawns If its 1 room away spawns. Anything Else and it becomes a gamble (LETS GO GAMBLING!)

[storm nexus]

Do shotgun sentries do more damage from behind

Same question applies for sniper sentries

[grizzled patrol]

No

Only Hel auto

[digital mural]

No

Also
Don't use shotgun sentry

[storm nexus]

But they're handy. Unfortunately it seems the ammo pool was nerfed tho

[digital mural]

Shotgun sentry is only good at using tool

It misses 90% of its shots

You Will be burning tool really fast

[storm nexus]

I dont think i had the problem of it missing with how i use them

[digital mural]

You probably do

And dont noticed it

[storm nexus]

Point blank behind a door smothered with cfoam on security door

[hardy grotto]

the r1 classic

[storm nexus]

Its just a meat grinder

[digital mural]

Burst sentry works better with that

Even Hel sentry does a better job than shotgun sentry

[storm nexus]

I wouldn't know

[storm nexus]

That i have thought of since it overpenetrates

I thought the shotgun used to have 100 rds

So why was it brought down to 52

[digital mural]

Huh

100?

[storm nexus]

Apparently

From a while ago

[ocean spindle]

shotgun sentry on the very beginning of the game was a very different sentry

then it disappeared from the game a little bit

and when it came back it had all sorts of nerfs- cause it was stupidly strong before

but also that meant it generally sucked now and it never escaped that

despite being buffed several times after that

it's still the weak sentry

[storm nexus]

Damn

So does sniper sentry deal more damage from behind?

[digital mural]

No

Only hel sentry

[storm nexus]

Oh

So how little damage does the hel sentry do

[civic wave]

It counted pellets, not rounds

[storm nexus]

Oh