#gtfo-related-questions

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hardy grotto
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dont tell mm i said this

minor fractal
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That too

hardy grotto
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i kinda wish it was more like og

tardy ingot
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pubbing r2d1 is the leading reason for rundown 2 soundbug

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because a pub afks outside teamscan for the last cell

hardy grotto
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i only played og once but i remember og being a lot worse

safe cradle
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R2D1: Statistics is a nice level

ocean spindle
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ikr i see people waking up rooms and im thinking 'i should be the one down there but they are 85 wtf do i do'

upper ginkgo
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r2 is so fucking brutal for a new player lol

ocean spindle
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and then just end up at 85 anyways cause i gotta res them

upper ginkgo
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r2c2, r2d1, r2d2, r2e1 is just the biggest wall

hardy grotto
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but i couldve also done it in the wrong order honestly

tardy ingot
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honestly i feel like R2C1 is such a random mess for beginners

safe cradle
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It's relaxing, exhilarating, compelling, and the crashing spitteraduio glitch makes it a new experience every time

silent delta
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r2d1: statistics fucked my wife and shot my dog

halcyon current
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Going from backhalf of R2 when I was new to R3 felt like a fucking joke

tardy ingot
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R2D2 just needed R3A3 to be... before it as a tutorial

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not after

ocean spindle
safe cradle
halcyon current
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Agreed, so far anyway

safe cradle
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though by that logic R2 gets carried by E1

tardy ingot
silent delta
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r2e1 is stinky

tardy ingot
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but its such a mess

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design wise

halcyon current
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Honestly I can't remember a single thing about R3 I think I got through the entire mf in a day

upper ginkgo
silent delta
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if you take out the last like 15 minutes its a d tier

tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
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like they used r7d1 to introduce a new objective mechanic (terminal stuff)

minor fractal
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I think R2 below C-tier is fairly difficult in general.

tardy ingot
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litteraly the same thing

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i dont mind R7D1 too much

mossy dome
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R2D1 and R2E1 I see a lot of people posting the same run constantly stuck on it

tardy ingot
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you cant always throw new stuff into A-B tiers

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especially that late into the games design

minor fractal
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R2 is why people should skip around more

safe cradle
mossy dome
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R2 isn't even that fun imo

minor fractal
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A lot of R2E1 pubs are just, clearly, way out of their depth

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People that actually stumbled out of R1 into R2E1

safe cradle
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R2D1 is very much streamlineable to be hard to fail even if the team has 4 very very bad shooters

upper ginkgo
safe cradle
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R2D2 kinda wants people to be able to land some shots decently because reactor

mossy dome
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Looking back I think doing R1 then R6 would have been so much more enjoyable

safe cradle
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(keyword being decently)

tardy ingot
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og R6

minor fractal
tardy ingot
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is goated

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in a way

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its such a great story and beginner rundown

mossy dome
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R6 is definitely my favorite full rundown

upper ginkgo
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crazy how everyone shat on og r6 when it first came out

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we didn't know how good we had it

mossy dome
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Is not that hard but it's fun and does a great job introducing stuff

tardy ingot
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i never did d4rkevDerp

minor fractal
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I mean, even in Alt R6 is one of my less played.

safe cradle
tardy ingot
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@upper ginkgo people legit saying "R6 is the easiest rundown ever!!!!!!!!"

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bruh

safe cradle
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First rundown I fully managed to finish

tardy ingot
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plus r5 being so disliked now

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is so funny to me

safe cradle
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It DID felt aeons easier than R4 and R5

tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
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i think alt r5's room density is the issue

tardy ingot
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but those were the 2 hardest rundowns til RUNDOWN 8

safe cradle
hardy grotto
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r5 is just so fucking long

mossy dome
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R6 the one tower level is kinda tricky if you don't know how to do it. Think it's R6CX

hardy grotto
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and they made some weird changes to it

upper ginkgo
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i miss my 20 sleepers in a single room

tardy ingot
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wdym dont you like A3, B3, C2, D1?

hardy grotto
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like why is b3 extreme scan

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so fucking long

tardy ingot
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^^

minor fractal
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R5 felt better when it was long and hard.

tardy ingot
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i was just about to say

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3 tanks wooooo

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"fun"

minor fractal
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But it doesn't feel as hard as it does tedious rn.

upper ginkgo
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og gtfo movement carries my og r5 nostalgia goggles

hardy grotto
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honestly

minor fractal
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And it's also just hard enough that it's painful in pubs or even if you're just not fully respecting things in here or there.

safe cradle
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is just boring

hardy grotto
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looking back i dont know how much i liked og r5

tardy ingot
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i always find it interesting how og r5 had probably the worst boss clear of any rundown after R3 (cuz r1 and r2 didnt need it anyhow)

safe cradle
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that whole scan feels pointless anyway

hardy grotto
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my ass did not like the primaries

upper ginkgo
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pistol

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pistol meta

hardy grotto
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it was unique but

safe cradle
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not like I'm gonna do the tank in the corridor

hardy grotto
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im not a pistol player

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i used dmr

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and i hate the scope to this day

minor fractal
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I mean, it was a good DMR rundown too.

upper ginkgo
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hel revo players when hel revo isn't in the rundown

hardy grotto
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i cant have been a hel revo player

mossy dome
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@digital mural if you're around would you like to do R7E1 when I get home in like 2 hours?

hardy grotto
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if i started in og r5

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my evolution began later

hardy grotto
tardy ingot
hardy grotto
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i fell int othe same kinda trap a while ago when i was doing cell skip duos

upper ginkgo
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is og r5 sniper better than current sniper lol

hardy grotto
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we took hel gun sniper

minor fractal
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Shotgun / Sniper / HEL Weapons rundown

hardy grotto
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but its actually just better to take double hel gun

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LOL

tardy ingot
safe cradle
tardy ingot
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GOD DAMN
this reminds me

safe cradle
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I'm pretty sure

upper ginkgo
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i'd rather take 3 less bullets than wait a bajillion years to fire my next shot

tardy ingot
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r5 had insane shotugn issues

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when 2 players shot fps DIEEEED

hardy grotto
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yes

upper ginkgo
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lol

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"STOP SHOOTING COMBAT SHOTTY"

hardy grotto
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i remember the r5c1 attempts

upper ginkgo
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"PLEASE"

hardy grotto
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but besides that i think my fps was overall better

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by a lot

tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
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yeah alt r5b1 runs like shit

hardy grotto
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gtfo just runs like shit now

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how can my fps half after 1 level

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what happened

mossy dome
hardy grotto
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erm, theres no memory leak, there's just a leak in your understanding

upper ginkgo
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gtfo's shit performance cornered me into buying a new gpu in the middle of the gpu shortage

minor fractal
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There's a renderer issue as well, I think.

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Flow posted about it in UMS

safe cradle
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I have fps drops randomly in nearly all garden/management (R7B1) levels

mossy dome
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The only issue I've had at all is R5B1 and runs with like 20 resets

minor fractal
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There's some render function that isn't given a specific camera argument, so it defaults to running for every single camera in the level, which includes every single light in the level.

fallen kite
upper ginkgo
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it's goofy

fallen kite
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How is that a thing

minor fractal
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Coding mistake

fallen kite
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Sounds like a really big one though, i'm just surprised it got through testing

minor fractal
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It's not going to be obvious the specific problem

mossy dome
minor fractal
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performance will just be worse in general for the patch.

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But that could be for any number of reasons.

fallen kite
upper ginkgo
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i think the only reason why flow found out was because he was trying to figure out why r7d1's performane was so shit

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had there not been such a massive outlier, i don't know if anyone would've bothered to dig through

fallen kite
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doesn't R5E1 also universally run like shit

soft crater
hardy grotto
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uhhhh

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its not the worst but its a big level so yea

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lot of stuff going on

upper ginkgo
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trauma words

soft crater
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I know playing levels after R5E1 can be fucked-

safe cradle
soft crater
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definitely not us starting max infection in a level that didn't have infection right after R5E1

fallen kite
safe cradle
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R7D1's first rooms make my fps drop to 30ish sometimes

fallen kite
safe cradle
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Again, I'm pretty sure it's that fucking damn environment

soft crater
upper ginkgo
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i think someone on the modding server said the poly count for garden tiles is significantly larger than the other tilesets

fallen kite
safe cradle
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I also have fps drops VERY rarely on some other levels (R4E1 sometimes in the very first zone) but not to that amount

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I drop to 55ish in R7B1

fallen kite
safe cradle
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and I'm sure that ain't "le beeeg level with le things going on"

upper ginkgo
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lol

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does gtfo even have LODs

fallen kite
upper ginkgo
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i know it unload rooms that aren't in view

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hence void bug(?)

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bummer

civic wave
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in some levels I don't really get more than 80 frames, instead dipping around 40-80

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it sucks

upper ginkgo
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they're really locking themselves out from the steam deck market

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hope den of wolves is more steam deck friendly

fallen kite
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shits always full res

civic wave
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god that's just what I'd need tbh, the ability to play r1a1 speedruns on a holiday to the beach

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on a steamdeck

safe cradle
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Not even in a remote way

upper ginkgo
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are heist games still cool

fallen kite
fallen kite
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a lot of people

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so ig

civic wave
hardy grotto
halcyon current
hardy grotto
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beep might try and tell you they are

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but they arent

fallen kite
safe cradle
upper ginkgo
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wake me up when there's another horde shooter

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i'm banking on uhhhhhh

hardy grotto
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left 4 dead 3

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coming soon

safe cradle
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back 5 blood

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Shallow Woods Regional

arctic marten
civic wave
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are there better things to do? probably

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but I still improved from it so I consider it worthwhile

fallen kite
upper ginkgo
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i just sigh in disappointment everytime i see you boot up into gtfo

fallen kite
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you carried R4E1 alarms w PDW

upper ginkgo
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just to load into an r1a1

civic wave
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I've had a session where I like

soft crater
civic wave
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booted up gtfo, hosted an r1a1 lobby
went and did other stuff for 30 minutes
played r1a1 for 10 minutes
closed game

fallen kite
mossy dome
fallen kite
upper ginkgo
civic wave
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like I can still get work done with it but damn hel revo is just better

fallen kite
soft crater
upper ginkgo
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and the occasional guy complaining on reddit about how the controller settings are shit

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met some vr players

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met some steam deck players

mossy dome
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All I can imagine with controller is the penguin meme when you see a terminal you have to type into

civic wave
upper ginkgo
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idk i like that guy

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he's immersed

civic wave
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he's a funny guy but

upper ginkgo
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like if i wanted a serial killer to murder me, it'd be him

civic wave
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I don't think I should be around him for more than 40 minutes every few weeks

tardy ingot
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would that be
(r^2)5ä2

or

2r5ä2

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or also just rr5ä2

narrow niche
upper ginkgo
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can you stop pinging me

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blocked

narrow niche
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</3

past mesa
upper ginkgo
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you're the reason why bread left

mossy dome
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im home, full list of my favorite missions so far (missing 2 e missions and half of r5)
R2D2
R3D1
R4C2 | R4E1
R5B4
R6A1 | R6AX | R6B1 | R6CX | R6D1
R7C3 | R7D2
R8B2 | R8D1

upper ginkgo
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r4c2 enjoyer

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r5b4 enjoyer

mossy dome
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warden protocols are fun idk what to say

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I think the game is at the best when it pushes you to go fast because a lot of the levels are trivial but boring if you just play at a snail pace

arctic marten
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why is r2d1 not on your list

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what is your problem

mossy dome
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infection is gross and in most levels it's done in a way that's more annoying than it is challenging e.g. it slows you down without actually adding to the difficulty of the level all that much

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imo

arctic marten
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mods, kill this guy

mossy dome
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:3

livid stone
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R2d1 boring

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R5b4 waiting simulator

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R4c2 try not to sleep challenge

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R4c3 is fun

hazy wedge
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I don't see R6C3, not a true gtfo fan 👎

velvet dagger
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current r8a2 password?

flat oar
civic furnace
civic furnace
mossy dome
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i like funne tower

civic furnace
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The voidspace disease

upper ginkgo
tiny wyvern
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Oh right is void still around

upper ginkgo
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void is gone :(

tiny wyvern
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I thought he was going off grid or smth right

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will he be back?

civic furnace
upper ginkgo
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uh not for a long time

past mesa
tiny wyvern
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wut happened why is he gone?

past mesa
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he military

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and gave away his pc

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to maybe a certain gamer

tiny wyvern
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aw man

frail heart
twin terrace
frail heart
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DO IT RIGHT NOW

twin terrace
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i’m waiting

mystic rock
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Hi waiting

twin terrace
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jadiepoop

frail heart
twin terrace
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blind mf

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he wasn’t fr 😔

frail heart
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i aint even realise you were in vc ngl

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my friend wanna play if you wanna join

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unless you AINT A REAL ONE

twin terrace
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who gaming

frail heart
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you know that guy that i cheesed babies on r4e1 and we died like after 25 minutes or some shit

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irish restaurant in STFU

twin terrace
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oh yeah

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lmk when

frail heart
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go in stfu

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im just cooking chops ill be like 10 mins

civic wave
topaz anvil
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Chat i am in the process of being phished

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Homie trying to steal my account

ocean spindle
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fished

topaz anvil
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This is so sad

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I only talked to them once back in 2021

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Trying to help them get into a pub lobby

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Time to dm modmail xd

wet bear
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Time to give them your account

topaz anvil
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Fine i guess i can give it to them

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I didn't want my username of 7 years anymore anyway

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8 years!

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I'm old

wet bear
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Just change it

past mesa
minor fractal
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Void's PC confiscated 😭

soft crater
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Sadge.

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Void wanted to play some modded with me awhile back

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But my schedule is fucked/busy

ocean spindle
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the first door in lockdown in the entire game issss r3d1 right?

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the apex door

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well the first apex door

soft crater
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Question. How difficult is it to perform a triple hit with Hammer. Or is it possible?

civic wave
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it is possible, it's been done before, it's difficult because lol aligning hitboxes

hazy wedge
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It is possible through imagination

civic wave
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there was a clip of it from sky on t5-e2 respite some months back

sturdy glen
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you need awake enemies for it afaik

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asleep ones cant overlap enough for it

past mesa
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Just you need high room density than the game allows

soft crater
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3 strikers happened to line up

soft crater
hazy wedge
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😱

narrow niche
soft crater
narrow niche
safe cradle
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poll_question_text

Out of those GTFO Maps, which one would you consider "comfort food"?

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R3D1

hushed stratus
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Can you read a log and then die to leave the level or do you have to actually beat the level to count as reading the log in a terminal?

civic wave
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You can die and it still counts

hushed stratus
silent delta
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read the log and then immediately commit self die

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optimal

stiff hearth
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I'm Extraction log hater

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R2e1 r5b4 r6d4

high ice
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im returning to this game after a long time what weapons are the best/most fun atm in peoples opinion? last time i played the carbine was really good

past mesa
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carbine hasnt been changed

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hel rev is still good

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new changes mianly are sniper isnt best boss kill in town anymore it is scatter

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hel shotty and sawd off are pretty meta main guns

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and that is pretty much it

high ice
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tysm!

arctic marten
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remember to use dtr if you are very cool and epic like me

topaz anvil
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or dmr if you are even cooler

modest pasture
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How do boosters conditions work? as an example for "enemy distance 20 meters" does one enemy have to be 20m away for the booster to apply to everyone or only him? Same for the enemy proximity 7m thing

civic wave
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boosters only apply to the player who equips them

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so it'd be within 7m of the player using the booster

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or 20+m from the player using the booster

topaz anvil
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^

modest pasture
native sun
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Good way to tell how the conditions work

modest pasture
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Okay thanks

civic wave
soft crater
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Enemy 20m away dmg is a funny proxy radar

narrow niche
soft crater
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I popped off that last run

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Outside of shadows stealthing

narrow niche
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Shadow stealthing

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As you call it

soft crater
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Sorry

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Waking up shadow rooms

narrow niche
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Nothing remotely stealthy about it

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<3

narrow niche
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<3

soft crater
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I did some risky pushes with Jackal though

narrow niche
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If I noticed these things

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I'm sure you did well

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If it's anything

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Uh

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You didn't go down as many times as the last c1 run

soft crater
narrow niche
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I noticed that

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Balanced gun

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Please buff yuki

narrow niche
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Unless that happened twice

soft crater
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shrugs

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I mightve traded hits

narrow niche
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:p

soft crater
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With 1 or 2 shadow giants iirc

narrow niche
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Is that why medis I gave you kept disappearing

soft crater
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Probably

narrow niche
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<3

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Ok

soft crater
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I'm proud of shoving a striker into a pen shot ok

narrow niche
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Hm

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Good job

soft crater
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Even if it took

narrow niche
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<3

soft crater
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24% hp

narrow niche
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Bad job

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Please don't do that

soft crater
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Tbf ifo that's why most cases

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I just ping meds

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Instead of using it

narrow niche
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I love having medis

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It makes me feel safe

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But it's never safe on extract...

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The nickle incident will forever haunt me

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I wasn't even on extract

safe cradle
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I prefer having ammo tbh

narrow niche
safe cradle
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There's a lot of options to kite around in some cases but nothing that's gonna beat "wait at the ladder and shoot"

narrow niche
soft crater
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That's also because yall dipped

narrow niche
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Idk how

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I would hand you medis and they would just poof

narrow niche
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Grabbing tool

narrow niche
soft crater
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I didn't top my self up

narrow niche
mystic rock
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nooooo :(

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this chat right meow

narrow niche
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Embed Fail

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No perms

narrow niche
soft crater
mystic rock
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so true

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make solace's server the official gtfo

narrow niche
soft crater
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It started off as a "group" chat tbf

mystic rock
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and then hange invited everyone

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:3

soft crater
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Then I suggested they can use my server I had to the side

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Since my other friends there basically went elsewhere

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Or they just use other servers

mystic rock
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solace is so alone nowadays :(

soft crater
narrow niche
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Damn

soft crater
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But GTFO with friends preferred

narrow niche
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You play only with pubs now

soft crater
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Being banned to pubs only is an actual punishment

narrow niche
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Only r2e1 pub

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Sorry

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I don't make the rules

soft crater
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I left after the 2nd attempt.

narrow niche
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Yk something so funny

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Something

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Hilarious

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Dbi

mystic rock
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you :3

narrow niche
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Asked me

soft crater
narrow niche
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To take

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His spot

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In a

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R2e1 pub

narrow niche
soft crater
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It's a better replacement- but if you would carry that

narrow niche
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Then they kept going down on surge

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Then when we got past it

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They pulled the room right after

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:D

mystic rock
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at what point do you just take foam

soft crater
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Nickle

mystic rock
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oh my look it's nickle

narrow niche
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NICKLE

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<3

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Wanna play yukidown

soft crater
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Get back here Nickle

fallen kite
soft crater
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We saw ya typing

fallen kite
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is it not like

narrow niche
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Don't leave me

fallen kite
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6am

narrow niche
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I was joking

soft crater
fallen kite
narrow niche
soft crater
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I'm up because of work

narrow niche
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Demands have been made

fallen kite
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ok well

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i'll play yukidown c2

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but until C3 and D1 come out I don't think i'll play anything else

narrow niche
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Fair

narrow niche
soft crater
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Seeing what tempo has posted

fallen kite
soft crater
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It'll be interesting.

narrow niche
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Not to play it

soft crater
narrow niche
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By Yuki and melon

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Yes

mystic rock
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it's doable solo

soft crater
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Yuki even said it's their least liked level as well.

mystic rock
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I died last reactor code and secondary is just shadow kiting

fallen kite
narrow niche
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Ah

soft crater
mystic rock
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and yeah b2 is heavy rng

soft crater
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And I already hate it

narrow niche
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Infection

mystic rock
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because the tiles are just not really thought of

fallen kite
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💀

mystic rock
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and reactor

fallen kite
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the class 3 can either be piss easy or really bad depending on if you get lucky or not

mystic rock
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so they either spawn next to you or 10 miles

fallen kite
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yeah

narrow niche
fallen kite
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like I personally like the reactor

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it's just got a lot of issues

narrow niche
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Do you wanna pub

fallen kite
narrow niche
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:3

soft crater
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One issue with yukidown. The "Balanced" gun

narrow niche
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Which one

soft crater
narrow niche
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:3

mystic rock
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revenant isn't that bad

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yurei was stupid

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can't believe rose just keeps saying it's fine

fallen kite
soft crater
fallen kite
soft crater
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Except. It's dmg is like that of dmr

fallen kite
soft crater
mystic rock
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yeah no revenant is fine

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but like yurei just murders bbc and shit

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bruh

fallen kite
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so does serration lol

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serration staggers in 1 shot

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what more can u ask of a main weeapon

soft crater
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Serration is a beefed up hel shotgun so yeh

fallen kite
soft crater
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No

fallen kite
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awesome

soft crater
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It's gonna get decreased mag/ammo but a faster reload

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And a visual rework

fallen kite
#

that's appropriate, yeah

mystic rock
#

yeah but now

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"monster"

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is a pocket scattergun for main

fallen kite
#

i want it

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i want it

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<3

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monster plunderer

soft crater
#

Yuki already said they were gonna nerf it

fallen kite
#

I NEED THIS LOADOUT

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I NEED IT

soft crater
#

Before it comes to live

narrow niche
fallen kite
#

Wdym

narrow niche
#

:3

fallen kite
#

Wait aren't we playing C2 rn

narrow niche
#

Are we

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Uh

fallen kite
#

I thought we were

narrow niche
#

Uhm

fallen kite
#

if we're not its fine i'll just play mc or smth

narrow niche
#

You really wanna duo c2

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With me

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You're sure

fallen kite
#

yeah

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we just won't do secondary

mystic rock
#

secondary is piss easy what

fallen kite
#

it did not go well when solace, ifo and I did it

narrow niche
#

I struggle with turning around...

fallen kite
#

and im not jade so no its not piss easy

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🙄

soft crater
#

Tbf me and ifo were blind iirc

mystic rock
#

my bad nicky

narrow niche
soft crater
#

Didn't we

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Fuck up somewhere and it costs us

fallen kite
#

We tried to kill the tank

narrow niche
fallen kite
#

when I should've focused wave

narrow niche
#

Send help

soft crater
#

Ifo acting like Rev against chargers is worst than Nightmares

narrow niche
#

Ok fair but

mystic rock
#

it is

narrow niche
fallen kite
#

rev is good into nightmares I feel

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i duo'd B3 w lakana and the rev felt awesome

narrow niche
#

It's what like 5 shots to kill?

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6?

fallen kite
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mystic rock
#

to kill a charger ?

narrow niche
#

Yea

mystic rock
#

4 in distance

soft crater
#

4

narrow niche
#

What's the damage again

soft crater
#

Same as hel revo

mystic rock
#

7.7x

soft crater
#

7.79

mystic rock
#

knew it

soft crater
#

Iirc

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7.77 is Seraphim

mystic rock
#

I just didn't want to say 9 cause I wasn't sure

fallen kite
narrow niche
#

ok so i am losing it

mystic rock
#

yo r4e1 pub

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💀

fallen kite
#

GYAAATT

mystic rock
#

oh nickle joined ez

narrow niche
#

NO

mystic rock
#

xd

narrow niche
#

i just opened yukidown

soft crater
mystic rock
#

range makes it weird to use

narrow niche
#

fuck you nickle

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:C

mystic rock
#

the ai generated buff egg

narrow niche
#

btw i havent slept in uh

mystic rock
#

why is frosty on r8d2

narrow niche
#

25 hours?

soft crater
#

Must be nice to be on summer

fallen kite
narrow niche
#

if i miss everything uh

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sucks

mystic rock
#

let me hold i stg :3

narrow niche
#

:3

mystic rock
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no nickle get away from me

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I don't want you

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don't code hunt

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just sleep in reactor

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like solace eating his watermelon sours

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or it was froster idk

narrow niche
#

i will pull moms

mystic rock
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I can join you on that

soft crater
#

When I Brb'd in Reactor room to eat watermelon sours and made Hange want some

mystic rock
#

xd

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best trio ever

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triple hel revo and hel gun

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HOLY I HAVE 300MS TO THIS GUY

fallen kite
frail heart
#

average australian

mystic rock
#

we'll get it next time surely

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right @fallen kite ?

fallen kite
mystic rock
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:(

fallen kite
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im joking

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we did our best

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and it wasnt enough

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next time we must go beyond our limits

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to win

steep rune
#

in r2e1, after the error alarm, is there a way to ensure important doors ahead do not get destroyed? it seems that error wave mobs often spawn in rooms ahead of us, behind closed doors which they then break to get to us and prevent us from using those doors for the surge alarms. any ideas?

civic wave
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the enemies spawn 2 rooms away, so you can sit 3 rooms away so they don't break an important door, then push forward to save doors after wave zone

ocean spindle
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it's like a timing thing

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u wait for the wave, and then rush as fast as u possibly can those two rooms

steep rune
#

do they spawn two rooms away from any specific player? if one or two players stay at the entrance of the alarm door will they never spawn ahead where the main group is fighting?

ocean spindle
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they spawn off a random player so if u get separated, ur other team could get spawns on top of them

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it's better to move as a group

steep rune
#

can multiple waves of error alarm enemies spawn? so if 5 error enemies spawn and have not been killed yet (maybe they are running towards players) can 5 more spawn 30 seconds later at a different location?

civic wave
#

yea

plain snow
#

any good modded rundowns to try out that go from mild to crazy?

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mostly finished with the base game and trying new stuff

silent delta
ocean spindle
plain snow
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Ye I heard about it but wasn’t too sure

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Certainly didn’t want to start with omnilegacy right from the start

tardy ingot
#

occlusion has:
better than vanilla gun balance
mild to about hardest vanilal content in diffculty
actual lore
good level design

plain snow
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Better gun balance

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Wait don’t tell me

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Bullpup actually good

tardy ingot
#

idk about all the guns LUL

plain snow
tardy ingot
#

but like, guns that are ass are generally buffed

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guns that are busted usually nerfed

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full autos are still meh tho

civic wave
#

Burst cannon returned to its glory days

tardy ingot
#

its just their nature

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^^

plain snow
tardy ingot
#

scattergun (i dont remember if dak did the change?) doesnt 2 shot mom iirc

plain snow
#

Like it should be

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Scattergun is a mechanic rideover

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Still my fav gun tho

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Obvious reasons

wet bear
wet bear
#

Might be wrong because I used it only once and it wasn't pleasant experience (I blame Daks potato farm)

tardy ingot
#

i told @turbid horizon to make it 150~ and 0.6 prec

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for best value roughly

wet bear
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As I said I used it once and I better be using bc at that moment cos of range

turbid horizon
#

I did that

wet bear
turbid horizon
#

No

wet bear
#

Sadge

silent delta
solemn stirrup
#

Are there any resources that go into detail about weapon theory and specifically why certain weapons are better or worse aside from just combing the discord for discussion? I know there’s like a spreadsheet of weapon stats and such, but parsing raw stats doesn’t really help frame some of the general discussion points I see often (hel revo good, bullpup and full-autos bad, etc) and I think it’d be helpful to expand the logic beyond “use hel revo and learn to click on things better”

frail heart
#

Hel is op

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scatter is op

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Scatter is actually op on client cause of the delay making it so bullets can hit tumors that are already dead technically

past mesa
#

Are pretty much the only weapon content

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We also have very strong opinions here about guns

topaz anvil
#

Ye like how AR is the best

past mesa
#

I typed this the mods won’t
Let me
Send

digital mural
#

You Will see

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Just try all guns in great variety of levels

past mesa
topaz anvil
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ONLY use AR and High Cal >:(

past mesa
#

Like even on host

tardy ingot
digital mural
silent delta
#

this server, honestly

#

we are fairly opinionated on weapon gud and weapon bad

past mesa
#

Mg is rated to high Eva

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you can’t lie to them

minor fractal
# solemn stirrup Are there any resources that go into detail about weapon theory and specifically...

Pen is very strong, and scales very well into harder and harder encounters. A lot of pen weapons also don't receive the drawbacks they maybe should. HEL Gun gets the 15 damage breakpoint where-as Revo doesn't. HEL Rifle matches the ammo per refill of other 30 damage weapons. HEL Revo gets access to more ammo than DMR. HEL Shotgun is one of the highest damaging Mains.

Scattergun and BC are very strong and flexible. These are potent boss kill, potent giant kill, and they can be pushed to wave clear when that's what you need to do w/ them.

Sawed-off is a bit power-crept. It's a pocket shotgun that doesn't require your special slot, it doesn't even have bad eco for a Main, and 4 in the mag is a little much stopping power per reload.

HEL Autopistol is okay. Its damage is a bit low, but it has crazy stagger and pen de-facto makes it serviceable for killing multiple things quickly.

Carbine is okay. Its ammo is a bit low, but its stat spread is just really good in general. High per-burst damage, high RoF, decent range, a large magazine, and a fast reload. It does a lot fairly well, and is fairly easy to use.

CS, High-cal, and Shotgun are all fairly flexible and do their own things well. CS has crazy power-crept ammo w/ good stats, shotgun is great baby clear + boss DPS + multitarget, HCP is just consistent and good.

All of the above is also further influenced by the sorts of encounters you can expect in harder content. In places where you need to be efficient/economical, you still need to be keeping pace with a higher threat density, so weapons that tackle both problems simultaneously are just what's strongest (penetration in particular will give any weapon a bump to both burst and sustain). There types of harder threats encountered also tend to be more than just a few things per level, so weapons that are able to answer a wide variety of threats well are just that much easier to justify over weapons that are overly specialized.

#

Weapons that are bad tend to have the opposite sorts of problems.

silent delta
#

opinion on choke mod, out of curiosity?

minor fractal
#

It's bad, lol.

silent delta
#

man 😔

minor fractal
#

The reload just kills it.

civic wave
#

reload too long to ever justify me taking it

silent delta
#

yeah its painful

#

especially with a four shot clip

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which sucks because i want it to be good its fun

past mesa
#

Choke mod got power crept out of the game

civic wave
#

burst cannon does giant kill better (3 and a bit giants per mag instead of 1 giant per mag)

#

like the gun is cool and all but I just

#

can never justify taking it

silent delta
#

i can justify taking

#

my justification is "meme"

#

by a similar token, where does precision rifle fall

civic wave
#

regular shotgun better if you want a 30 damage shotgun, burst cannon better if you want that ranged weapon that fires into giants and bosses (or hel rifle also serves well for ranged giant kills)

silent delta
#

honestly, high cal better if you want a 30 damage shotgun

civic wave
#

PR is a fine gun I guess, it's nothing crazy but you can get great value out of the range + thermal on some maps where it has a good niche (it's also respectable when fired into bosses)

soft crater
#

Pr feels nice for being somewhat dual roles

silent delta
#

the reload feels a bit too punishing for what the gun does imo

#

i have friends who swear by it

ocean spindle
#

for some reason i aim very well with it instead of every other gun in the game

#

that and revo

soft crater
#

The reload is definitely punishing

silent delta
past mesa
#

Choke mod should have been the best boss burst in the game

silent delta
#

(i cant aim at all)

#

i mean while its up choke mod is great

minor fractal
# minor fractal Weapons that are bad tend to have the opposite sorts of problems.

MG can be slow and economical, w/ really bad TTK but on paper you kill a lot of strikers, or you can spray and pray to dump your ammo while wasting a lot of shots that either hit body extra timers or miss entirely. This just makes MG iffy at best, and when you also consider it doesn't even have the most cracked stat combo on-paper, it sucks for chargers and nightmares, and it sucks for general utility, it's just bad.

silent delta
#

but you can dump the whole mag in 2 seconds and the nyou ahve a 2 second reload

soft crater
#

PR though I've only really taken it on the harder levels with teammates I know can cover the down time

past mesa
soft crater
#

Otherwise easier levels there's relatively always time for reloads

silent delta
#

yeah thats why i like to run bullpup on them lmao

minor fractal
silent delta
#

cuz bullpup is fun

minor fractal
#

VR + 50% pen?

past mesa
#

Vanilla

minor fractal
#

No, lol.

past mesa
#

XD

#

VR with 50% pen pkg

silent delta
#

how busted would it be if mg had 2 pierce

minor fractal
#

It'd be average, but actually good.

#

I still think both MGs need a breakpoint buff

silent delta
#

idk

tardy ingot
# past mesa Mg is rated to high Eva

id move them both down slightly, but for general play mgs are fine for their purpose

its just… people try to do everything else with them aswell

minor fractal
#

VR + 50% pen, I think they're reasonable versatile as sort-of burst-clear weapons.

silent delta
#

i feel like if you're going for the whole "i want a special weapon that can waveclear" the hel weapons outclass mgs on any level with a sightline, and combat shotty outclasses them in close quarters waveclear

past mesa
silent delta
#

and then har is in the video game

silent delta
#

i had pretty good success with veruta for waveclear on r2d2

past mesa
#

Yup

silent delta
#

and then i started using hel rifle and was like damn

past mesa
#

There is the catch

#

The guns are okay but the power of pen shouldn’t go unstated

minor fractal
#

The MGs do actually solve a lot of problems for bad players.

silent delta
#

idc how bad veruta is

minor fractal
#

Bad players just need to actually shoot at things sometimes, and MGs get them to actually shoot things.

silent delta
#

it has a place in my heart

tardy ingot
silent delta
#

fuckin carried my first 250-300 hours in this game lmao

ocean spindle
silent delta
#

man

#

har is so weird to me

#

like its objectively good on paper and i have many friends who are better than me who use it a lot

tardy ingot
#

also monkaHmm

silent delta
#

but whenever i use it it just feels so bad

ocean spindle
#

it's not objectively good on paper is it ?

tardy ingot
#

r8d2 is a surprisingly funny speedrun

ocean spindle
#

i mean it is good

#

but like it's fine

silent delta
#

idk

tardy ingot
#

We found out smth funny today

silent delta
#

high ttk, good reload, no chargeup

#

high ttk
on smalls

minor fractal
#

HAR genuinely has massive ammo problems.

silent delta
#

thats the real kicker

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

i think har just does wonderfully if u tap tap it or have good aim to not waste bullets but each bullet a giant of hybrid soaks hurts like a fuck

silent delta
#

but honestly?

#

maybe its just a skill issue

soft crater
silent delta
#

the recoil is what kills it for me

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

like it's an entire mag for a hybrid, and that's like 1/4 of ur total ammo

silent delta
#

i feel like im piloting a giraffe trying to do ballet

#

will not stay pointed at the bad guy >:(

tardy ingot
#

you dont need to

ocean spindle
#

lol

frail heart
#

I already knew that IDONTWANAGO

minor fractal
#

Yeah, door just opens on T-scan

tardy ingot
#

the door at the end opens if you did the farthest of the 3 terminals

tardy ingot
#

tho he didnt know why

#

KEKW kenny did the testin and its seriously??

silent delta
#

har feels like a sidegrade to mg, smaller clip and less damage/stagger per mag but a faster reload and no chargeup

tardy ingot
#

also

#

you dont kill mega mom

silent delta
#

man

tardy ingot
#

not worth

silent delta
#

thats sad

tardy ingot
#

It funny

#

She follows you

silent delta
#

ik its slow but shes cool :(

tardy ingot
#

and annoys frosty

civic wave
#

if i play well

frail heart
civic wave
#

everything goes fine

ocean spindle
#

she only births on line of sight like the others right

past mesa
#

Because the objectives aren’t set up correctly

civic wave
#

i was not playing well at all lmao

#

troll goat

civic wave
tardy ingot
#

Sub 20 r8d2 is possible

silent delta
#

"if i play well everything goes fine"

#

its that ez

frail heart
#

sub r8d2 lets go

silent delta
#

just dont mess uop

#

💯

ocean spindle
#

sub r8d2 ah yes not doing d2 at all

tardy ingot
#

well tbf

#

you rly dont play much of r8d2 in the speedrun lol

#

avoid tank/scout zone (you jump through blood door to lower alarm)
You kinda only do 50% of the dual scans and dont kill mega mom

#

current time (pre megamom strat) is like 21:16 or so
but we save around 1:10 just by not doing mega mom

civic wave
#

@tardy ingot you said for gtfo% you might have everyone run back to avoid scream, or shoot whoever pulls door right? can't you just have whoever pulls door stand in the mine and blow up

tardy ingot
#

but yea

#

honestly

#

i dont even know

#

doing that costs you legit ~30-40 seconds

civic wave
#

would enemy being close matter? assuming you have mine deployer solo stealth to door, pull, blow up, and everyone else sits in alarm room

past mesa
#

You just don’t run in for gtfo% the blood door

tardy ingot
#

Yoloing might be faster even if you wipe once

past mesa
#

no

tardy ingot
#

What no

#

i dont think you would yolo

past mesa
#

you don’t mine it is only like 3 enemies

civic wave
#

yea checks out, would need no scout nearby

past mesa
#

If no one runs in you just clear it?

#

Why risk with mines

civic wave
#

3 hybrids and 2 strikers or something

past mesa
#

in a marathon run

civic wave
#

that door is a pain

tardy ingot
#

Sometimes no smalls

#

sometimes 2-3 (strikers and or shooters)

past mesa
#

Yeah zero chance of scream outside if you just don’t run in

civic wave
#

but then you need to quickly clean up

past mesa
#

Yeah

tardy ingot
past mesa
#

It is a marathon run

#

You kill sleepers in the run

#

Crazy

tardy ingot
#

the fuck are you talking about

civic wave
#

and you're talking about keeping 3 hybrids out of the room and not screaming, and you never trust hybrids

past mesa
#

no I am not

#

They literally don’t leave the room

minor fractal
#

Not having scream in room is very consistent w/ just casual strats tbh

past mesa
#

If you don’t don anything

tardy ingot
#

you never clear that zone fully
you either open blood door and leave
or you run inside (risky)
or you melee (risky)

past mesa
#

You kill them in 10 seconds?

tardy ingot
minor fractal
#

Melee is not risky, lmfao

civic wave
#

It's probably not as bad or likely if you stand a bit further back

past mesa
#

They do

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If you don’t

#

They don’t

civic wave
#

but if you're up at door we've had several times they come in

tardy ingot
#

they still can

civic wave
#

yeah I'm fairly certain it's less likely but they still do it sometimes

tardy ingot
past mesa
#

Just don’t block los and stand right at door way?

#

Insane

minor fractal
#

At that point you just stagger and bait melee tbh.

tardy ingot
#

one guy staggers into room
Screams

minor fractal
#

It's still very easy to control.

#

WHy are you behind him

#

to hit him into room??

tardy ingot
#

ray about to run it 20 times to show me its 100% consistent and never happens

past mesa
#

yeah

#

Tbh

minor fractal
#

Just the fact that it's consistent in pubs

#

where 1-2 players are room temp IQ

past mesa
minor fractal
#

I think shows it's not hard to control.

tardy ingot
#

its also not hard to run in and shoot if you take guns for it

2 burst cannons and the chance for a scream is insanely small

minor fractal
#

And if you really want to stay safe, you just tank damage on the melee bait.

past mesa
#

But you don’t even loss more than like 10 seconds

#

Killing them?

#

What

#

is this even about

#

Like 10 seconds isn’t worth

tardy ingot
#

i never said to shoot them in gtfo%

:)

past mesa
#

Goat

#

Did

#

Crazy

frail heart
#

guys can we start being friends

civic wave
#

i've been confused this entire time

#

where'd I say to shoot them

tardy ingot
#

i dont think goat did

past mesa
minor fractal
#

It's the running back

tardy ingot
#

no

minor fractal
#

that doesn't make sense

past mesa
#

yeah

civic wave
#

oh that was about eva's musings to shoot whoever pulls door so they down and enemies can't scream off them

#

not shooting enemies

tardy ingot
#

its the safest way to avoid room alert florkShrug1 have the person pulling die

#

not the best

minor fractal
#

The best balance of time vs. safe is just to melee blood door.

past mesa
#

it is free to just melee it

minor fractal
#

Maybe even clear around blood door, because 20m is a very small distance.

past mesa
#

even in gtfr enemy random 👀

tardy ingot
#

safest fast would be clear around ad double mine

civic wave
#

I've pulled door twice (alone) and both times a hybrid has wandered out of door (no scream because striker is scripted to do it), but there's still that slight risk if you don't kill that hybrid in time

tardy ingot
#

its so free to clear a 20 m area

civic wave
#

or if another hybrid/enemy etc etc runs out, you get the idea

tardy ingot
#

its what we did early on

past mesa
#

Striker is scripted to do it?

minor fractal
civic wave
#

enemy will always scream when you open the door, no?

little pilot
#

also i just wanna point out: murdering the 1 wandering hybrid out of the zone is quite easy. just melee bait his ass and 3 people gang his ass

past mesa
#

There isn’t an enemy that is scripted to scream

civic wave
#

like tank will always scream in r4e1 after he breaks the door, etc etc, probably not scripted in the true sense of the word but I'm really not in the fucking mood to play semantics right now

past mesa
#

at best it is because they are actionable and met scream actions

little pilot
#

The enemies always scream immediately when the blood door opens which causes an inside scream for cd but idk if it scripted

#

happens with every blood door

past mesa
#

yeah but it isn’t a specific enemy

#

It has to do with scream cooldown and conditions

little pilot
#

can be very funny with charger blood doors

civic wave
#

you get the idea

#

you know what i'm saying

#

i needn't say any more

past mesa
#

No

#

I don’t

#

These words

#

Mean

#

Things

civic wave
#

you open door, enemy screams

past mesa
#

Then say

little pilot
#

but yeah full meleeing the blood door is quite easy and consistent

past mesa
#

That

civic wave
#

you talk to goat on discord, goat screams out window because goat is having a bad day

past mesa
civic wave
minor fractal
civic wave
#

i'm not saying it's hard

#

im just saying

minor fractal
#

Because that seems to be what Eva explicitly claims is "risky"

#

when it isn't.

civic wave
#

that the hybrid can run out