#gtfo-related-questions

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tardy ingot
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the issue is that sniper vs giants isnt a standout so picking any of the other options is just a massively insane upgrade
and while its clearly the best hybrid answer. They rarely are "the" issue. So the slight worse matchup of the other big dmg options is totally fine since you can actually waveclear

sniper is pretty ass right now

halcyon current
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Rq tho my issue with sniper is why not just use Scattergun?

tardy ingot
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or burst cannon

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or hel rifle

halcyon current
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If you want a big enemy deleter

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Scattergun is the primo big enemy deleter

prime musk
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me: brings r2d2 and r5b1 overload as examples of sniper being good and sniper sucking

brings up scattergun

wild flare
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Why

halcyon current
tardy ingot
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in a 4 player team picking sniper (since your team can cover the small clear) isnt good since they also easily just cover big clear and you are useless (also any miss/accidentall team hs on giants = dragging the gun along)

in low player count you are giving your teammate the whole responibility of any non giant clear so its also not rly a good choice

halcyon current
# wild flare Why

Cause tbh with you I did R1-3 for game knowledge and I'm doing 4 cause I want the completion mask

prime musk
tardy ingot
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it gets funny when scattergun litteraly solo holds waves (with any decent main) on reactors KEKW (not feasible on all)

wild flare
tardy ingot
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R8 should always be last
R7 before that makes the most sense aswell

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so youd skipp R5 for R6 ?

wild flare
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Like, r5 is not much harder, than r4, for me it is easier

halcyon current
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Tbh with you I wanted to try 7

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I heard the environments get neat in 7

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I'm only a little tired of seeing the infinite amazon warehouse

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With intermixed cave systems

wild flare
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R5 has new environment

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Few lvls, but still

halcyon current
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Thank God

fallen kite
tardy ingot
wild flare
prime musk
fallen kite
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theres no walls

tardy ingot
prime musk
silent delta
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its more usable against crowds of smalls too

prime musk
fallen kite
tardy ingot
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more like, its a worse loadout cuz you are stuck with a gun that ONLY deals with giants

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basically the 2nd player has to pick up the slack

prime musk
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it's also the gun to shoot shooters because otherwise ammo balancing sucks

tardy ingot
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hel rifle

prime musk
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i literally mentioned how

tardy ingot
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(fuck shooters)

prime musk
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we failed to make hel rifle+ burst cannon work

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that's a skill issue, yes

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we could probably make it work now

tardy ingot
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well yea
the point was that shotgun + sniper is weird (and rly not optimal)

the thing is that you can make suboptimal stuff work (thats how the game goes)

silent delta
tardy ingot
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they rly should just revert sniper...

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give us the actual anti giant gun back

wild flare
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Screw sniper gun, it is a joke on almost all levels BabyShooter

prime musk
silent delta
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please god 3 clip sniper 10 chambers

silent delta
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a gun for big guys, a gun for smalls

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the problem is that 10cc nerfed the shit out of sniper lmao

tardy ingot
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and that theres "all rounders" that do both jobs as good or better

halcyon current
wild flare
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Hel rifle superior

prime musk
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we never played with old sniper
i can tell that it was better but it's still fine at it's job

tardy ingot
silent delta
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the nerf was so comically bad

tardy ingot
wild flare
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Apparently one-shotting 1 big guy is too op, when on 95% of levels you have to deal vs hordes of small enemies, lets nerf sniper gun ๐Ÿคก

silent delta
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experiment, yk

tardy ingot
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the gun is still viable, since everything is (with maybe the exception of intentionally throwing loadouts on r8e2) but its a clearly subpar option

silent delta
prime musk
tardy ingot
silent delta
tardy ingot
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nah

ocean spindle
tardy ingot
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short rifle is bad but you just clear anyway

ocean spindle
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i mean being good with sniper but bad with burst cannon doesn't make sense to me either

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cause burst cannon doesn't need precision

halcyon current
silent delta
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anyone have the copypasta on hand

ocean spindle
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don't

tardy ingot
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and its fine to like stuff

silent delta
halcyon current
silent delta
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sniper is arguably the best gun against hybrids at range

tardy ingot
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"arguably"

silent delta
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low skill floor medium skill ceiling

tardy ingot
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thats like saying "hel rifle is arguablly the best gun vs chargers"

prime musk
silent delta
# tardy ingot "arguably"

i have a tendency to say that because i dont know what im doing and i dont want to tell people something thats objectively incorrect

wild flare
prime musk
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the reason burst cannon is better is because higher overall dps and less downtime and better at all the other shit if you can use it

silent delta
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hey bro

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if you like sniper, use sniper

halcyon current
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Burst Cannon just works. It just kills shit.

silent delta
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it's fun and it does work

ocean spindle
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works good enough to be a fun

silent delta
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but if you are struggling to win, you should at least consider trying something else, just to see how ti goes

tardy ingot
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scatter and burst cannon existed already

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the sniper nerf is still the biggest ? ever

halcyon current
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Doesn't BC predate Sniper? Or am I wrong

tardy ingot
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no

silent delta
tardy ingot
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Sniper is an og r1 weapon

silent delta
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sledgehammer skin nerf in r6

halcyon current
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Gotcha

tardy ingot
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bc is from og r3

prime musk
silent delta
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biggest nerf ever

ocean spindle
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the thing is at least bc u can learn to get efficiency out of it

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but well sniper works good enough

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if u rlly love it

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sure

prime musk
silent delta
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in a level that consistently has giants like r1c1 yeah you can get success with sniper

ocean spindle
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i am terribly sleepy

halcyon current
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The Snoozer

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
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yes

tardy ingot
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and sniper can also clear lots of shit

silent delta
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i mean one shotting giants at any range can always have some utility in the right levels

tardy ingot
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weve done sniper and melee only R3D1

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no tools

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no main

silent delta
tardy ingot
halcyon current
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God I love Flork lmao

wet bear
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See I said that Hel rifle should get buff, should be 60 dmg

silent delta
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we are not as silly as you

prime musk
ocean spindle
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i guess it just comes down rlly to skill issue- not negatively, it takes game to learn guns but that's the bottom line

halcyon current
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That would make it balanced

silent delta
wet bear
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I think infinite pen through walls is enough

halcyon current
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Why isn't there an all of the above option

silent delta
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make it so you can shoot a tank in the front and the pierce pops tumors on its back

halcyon current
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Does pierce not work on tanks? I've never had the chance to try it

silent delta
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nah

wild flare
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I know, it is a meme poll, but hel rifle reload speed is ugh

silent delta
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each bullet can only hit an enemy once

tardy ingot
wet bear
halcyon current
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Good to know, ty

silent delta
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if you hit on the carapce, no tumor damage for u

tardy ingot
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tbf
both faster reload or bigger clip are the busted buffs here

prime musk
silent delta
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democracy wins!

tardy ingot
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dmg would need to be like 40 to matter at all (and it would only better its giant, boss and nightmare matchups)

ocean spindle
tardy ingot
ocean spindle
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u don't need to torture urself

halcyon current
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Yes but if it did 80 damage it would kill things even deader

tardy ingot
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boosters are d4rkevblank so wack

ocean spindle
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just take the burst cannon in r2b2 or something and check it

prime musk
halcyon current
prime musk
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so we threw boosters at it

silent delta
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oh are you on r2d2?

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and ive been saying r1c1 the entire time like a fool?

ocean spindle
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yeah just don't- don't play it again there's no point kdmksd
there's plenty other levels to test guns

wild flare
silent delta
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i like boosters, i think they're fine, but no shade if you dont wanna use them

prime musk
wild flare
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100% infection immune

silent delta
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i guess if you only have two people then having someoen who can delete bigs is good

wet bear
halcyon current
# tardy ingot based

I heard someone say "we need bioscan speed for this" on like R4C3 or something and I mentally resigned myself to losing then and there lmao

prime musk
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actually beating it 4p we did that like 3 months ago

silent delta
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if you have a party of 4 then people can make up for the slower ttk of bc and its more versatile for the user

halcyon current
silent delta
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:(

ocean spindle
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i take boosters but only pretty much the ones i do not want anymore
there's never a level i drop to without 1 2 boosters i'm trying to waste

tardy ingot
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bc ttk isnt even that much slower in the end the more you fight

sniper succeeds in singular (or just 2) giant enemies

silent delta
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this game softlocks too often i dont wanna lose my good boosters to shit game design

halcyon current
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If I run boosters it's hack power boosters to clear out my inventory

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
prime musk
tardy ingot
ocean spindle
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r5d1 sure but r4b1 it's ur fault

prime musk
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still you can't kill more than 3 per reload (admittedly the reload is better too)

tardy ingot
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r4a2, r4b1, r5a3 all have generator related soft locks the players have to do

silent delta
tardy ingot
silent delta
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or perhaps not a softlock, but some bug like cfoam door or sound bug that basically necesitates a restart

ocean spindle
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for like b1 and a3

wild flare
silent delta
tardy ingot
wet bear
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Just use perfect boosters with glowstick power

ocean spindle
halcyon current
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Stuff that looks good but will sit on the shelf

tardy ingot
wild flare
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Fair reason

silent delta
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and

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uhh

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one of the other levels

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i forgor

ocean spindle
wild flare
silent delta
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and the stuck spot was quite unfortuntae

wild flare
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And i stucked on this lvl for a week

silent delta
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i couldnt figure out how to get out of it

silent delta
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back when alt r4 came out i played r4c3 a

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and it felt like it happened every other run

tardy ingot
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boom, stuck

wild flare
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I saw Scaler mentioned this problem on video guide tho

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But his video is 1y old

tardy ingot
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oh god

ocean spindle
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i think c3 is fixed by some patch notes but i don't remember

tardy ingot
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scaler has ptsd

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(typing from gtfo chat)

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scaler has been killin me a lot recently in modded

wild flare
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I saw that xd

tardy ingot
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just cuz i killed him "a bit" in og r7

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it was just 30+ times ok

silent delta
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ive had people just drop a mine in the middle of extract scan and just

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leave it there

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chilling

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tempting.

ocean spindle
silent delta
ocean spindle
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smh smh the vengeance is never good it kills the soul and poisons it as taught my el chavo del ocho

wild flare
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When i played on r4e1 on extraction scan 1 guy killed another ๐Ÿ˜‚

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On 99%

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Classic

ocean spindle
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damn

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i don't think i been killed at extract unless i actively start shooting first

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and usually i don't have the scattergun or sniper so u end up in the floor

wild flare
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Play with bots, and you will never be killed by them intentionally ๐Ÿ‘Œ

silent delta
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we were playing r4c1 and i had scatter

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and everyone was stnading right next to each other

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fuck no embeds right

ocean spindle
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:3

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goober

silent delta
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anyway i killed all 3 of them at like 95%%

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cuz scatter is fair adn balanced

wild flare
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Get scattered

ocean spindle
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pro gamer

wild flare
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I have a sin of killing bots non-intentionally, they just love to jump in front of my face, when i shoot from hel rifle xd

wet bear
wild flare
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On r5d1 it was plain outrageous

silent delta
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hel rifle is just optimal team killing

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cannot tell you how many times i accidentally pierce a tank and tag someone

wild flare
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It is like 30-40% hp on friendly fire

wet bear
wild flare
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Bruh

tardy ingot
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theres only 2 things that dont just double the dmg

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(tho theres funny rounding sometimes obviously)

wet bear
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Shotgun sentry and?

tardy ingot
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explosive tripmines (not mine deployer)

halcyon current
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People keep walking infront of me when Im firing into a wave with Hel Shotgun

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And I tbh have totally stopped caring and shoot through them

silent delta
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hel shotty just has such a wide blast cone

wild flare
tardy ingot
halcyon current
silent delta
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glankles

wet bear
ocean spindle
silent delta
halcyon current
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Like I'm crouched down and their model phases through mine to the front

tardy ingot
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(well technically its halfed but we only have 1/4th hp bs)

neon gust
ocean spindle
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chat, is this true

tardy ingot
halcyon current
silent delta
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i need hugs :(((((((((

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put the shotgun away :((((((((((((((

halcyon current
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The skinwalker in my yard

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Disguised as a big booby woman

civic wave
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I feel so bad when i accidentally pop mom tumour with hel rifle through my teammate who has a +99% rev speed +49% res and med efficiency -1% melee damage on a booster and a 3 round mag thermal scope sniper :(

silent delta
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big booby skinwalkers in your area!

wild flare
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It is kinda satisfying, when i see someone blow up on tripmine and hp goes down from 100 to 0 instantly

tardy ingot
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you can survive tripmines tbf

ocean spindle
wet bear
silent delta
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they should make it so projectile resist boosters reduce ff damage

silent delta
ocean spindle
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:D

silent delta
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they do?

tardy ingot
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well

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ive only tested it with kaiser

silent delta
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bruh

ocean spindle
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oh that's funny i didn't know that

tardy ingot
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but boosters massively reduce the dmg

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its just

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nobody fucking uses boosters and then friendly fires

silent delta
ocean spindle
halcyon current
ocean spindle
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i take boosters and friendly fire

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that's not a hard sequence of events

wet bear
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They do reduce damage but sadly we can't get more than 100 so we would heal

ocean spindle
wild flare
silent delta
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regen cap +400% when

tardy ingot
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regenspeed +4000% Kappa

wild flare
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Heal in fog

silent delta
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piss +9000%

wild flare
wet bear
silent delta
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i suppose technically the guns are hitscan and not projectiles

wild flare
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Which boosters are most op?

tardy ingot
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depends

halcyon current
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I wish GTFO guns were projectile based ngl

wet bear
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Because you made them by ur hands

narrow niche
tardy ingot
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bio scan speed, regen cap, melee resists (but also projectile res), supply/med efficiency, infec resist

silent delta
halcyon current
narrow niche
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no

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:3

halcyon current
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That's

silent delta
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all the guns are hitscan

halcyon current
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That's so fucking weird what

silent delta
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they would be much harder to hit if they were not

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most guns in games are

halcyon current
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I know

silent delta
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check if crosshair is on enemy, if yes kill

halcyon current
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I just, I like guns with true projectiles

silent delta
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lot easier on game calculations too

halcyon current
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Probably cause of FEAR ngl

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FEAR left a strong impression on me as a child

tardy ingot
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tbf

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play with enough ping

silent delta
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what you wanna lead a crossmap sniper shot above the target's head and hit a snipe?

tardy ingot
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and guns feel like projectiles

halcyon current
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Eva aren't you German?

wild flare
tardy ingot
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yes

silent delta
wet bear
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Play with enough ping and you can win true melee with tank face to face

silent delta
halcyon current
# tardy ingot yes

I'm about to get on I think, do you want to host or do you want me to? I'm NA East.

tardy ingot
silent delta
red flax
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Just to confirm here, are you saying that the bullpup and AR are the worst full-autos?

halcyon current
tardy ingot
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@red flax yes. They are the worst 2 main guns in general imo (worst 3 mains overall by anyone)

silent delta
wet bear
silent delta
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me personally i still like burst pistol less but ar and bullpup are close

silent delta
halcyon current
tardy ingot
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burst pistol reload (and not being full auto) just makes it slightly better than those 2

silent delta
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man why do i have to go to work

halcyon current
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Cash rules everything around me, get the money, dolla dolla bills yall

wild flare
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R5d2 is waiting

silent delta
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im a poor college student working two jobs

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i wanna go play video games

wild flare
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Quit jobs, play gtfo

ocean spindle
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patpat the overworked goober

silent delta
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i gotta fund my pc rebuild

halcyon current
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How do we make polls again?

tardy ingot
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click on plus

halcyon current
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Oh, thank you

wild flare
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  • -> poll
tardy ingot
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should you teach beginners to stealth without crouch first (or rather with crouch as a last resort) ?

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i honestly think yes

halcyon current
halcyon current
tardy ingot
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3rd option - no

halcyon current
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There is no third option

wild flare
narrow niche
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any change would make it worse

tardy ingot
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BRAH

narrow niche
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<3

wild flare
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When they have better feeling of mechanics

tardy ingot
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i have 1 somewhat fun experience

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and it was speedrunning it

narrow niche
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dying to mom...

tardy ingot
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dying to mom was funny and sad

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i ran slug, sniper, shotgun sentry, spear for memes

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we wanted to melee mom (with 2 newbie devs)

halcyon current
narrow niche
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sniper clears babies

civic wave
tardy ingot
wet bear
halcyon current
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You don't understand if you just macro the short rifle it's the best gun

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The hel shotgun is bad because you have to get close to enemies and that's scary

tardy ingot
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you are lucky you missed the start of the "hel shotgun bad" saga

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like people thought it was bad early on (and beginners still often do)

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but god...

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that person

wet bear
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I was in scan!

wild flare
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Hel shotgun is great

tardy ingot
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also i got goat to join aswell for r4d1

tardy ingot
halcyon current
grave kite
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Hel shotgun + combat shotgun combo was great lol, we got much further this time on R2E1

halcyon current
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Hel Shotgun is only good if you have the confidence to use it, which most new players simply don't

wet bear
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I can't stay so long in his shoes

halcyon current
wet bear
tardy ingot
halcyon current
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no one tells me anything smhmh

wild flare
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You gonna do meme r4d1 or serious clear btw?

tardy ingot
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just normal clear (well probably reactor hold)

narrow niche
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woah

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goat and eva carry?

wild flare
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Ok, gl

tardy ingot
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anyone down for a quick r4d1?

silent delta
narrow niche
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my chance to play with goat and eva gone

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like the wind

wild flare
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And i have to go to shop rn

silent delta
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i get off work in like four hours

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surely you wont beat r4d1 in less than four hours

narrow niche
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hmm

wild flare
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Holding first wave 4 hours with melee

silent delta
# silent delta
poll_question_text

how do we fix hjel rifle

victor_answer_votes

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total_votes

9

victor_answer_id

4

victor_answer_text

nerf sniper

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are you just taking a loadout from everyone

soft crater
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Just what ppl think is the worst loadout

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I was gonna put it in a poll eventually

silent delta
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for me its probably burst pistol/short rifle/shotgun sentry/spear

soft crater
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I would recommend dming for now as I've got work

soft crater
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I'll add it with Jakes

silent delta
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fuck short rifle me n all my homies hate short rifle

narrow niche
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Worst loadout is slug pistol / short sniper / shotgun sentry / spear

silent delta
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chat is this real

frail heart
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burst pistol sniper is so fucking bad

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ive played burst pistol short rifle, slug short rifle, etc etc and its just so bad

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ar is very close as well

silent delta
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i remember i had taken a break of like two weeks before r8 dropped and then when it did i tried a1 with burst pistol short rifle

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cuz yk, new guns! hype!

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and i was like "damn im rustier than i thought, why is literally nothing dying"

neon gust
# neon gust
poll_question_text

chat is this real?

victor_answer_votes

5

total_votes

7

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

yes

ocean spindle
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short rifle can kill

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just very inefficiently

silent delta
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thats my point

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i was shooting at the bad guys and im like "damn i have to hit headshots with every single round to do the same thing i could do with a different gun"

narrow niche
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But the ammo efficiency,,,, macro,,,,

silent delta
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and then i tried the macro

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20cps

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and it sure was funny

fierce walrus
silent delta
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but wasnt very effective lmao

silent delta
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but yes, generally i agree

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it doesnt help that it still sucks even after the macro lmao

fierce walrus
narrow niche
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Let me introduce to you, the short rifle. On paper and given to an aimbot, this is like the most broken weapon in the game but it feels like horse shot to use because to use it yo its full potential you literally need to be superhuman, able to click 20 times per second. This is where the macro comes in. You create a macro that when you hold a button, it clicks really fast, mimicking full auto. Don't go overboard with the firing speed. I set mine to fire somewhere between 5 and 10 per second, similar to the assault rifle. Then you bind that button to your most accessible mouse button.

Now you have a weapon that is the most generally ammo efficient in the game with the normal semi auto and then when you switch to full auto, it has up to the highest dps in the game, each bullet dealing more than twice of what the assault rifle does, still with a huge ammo capacity.

The only drawbacks are the somewhat hard to control recoil and half stagger, yet remember it still staggers more per bullet than the assault rifle and pretty much always staggers on heashot. Its also not super great for sniping shooters with early fall off. Deletes both strikers and giants though

fierce walrus
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wait this isnt that reddit post

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r i g h t

narrow niche
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Yes

silent delta
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no this is ifkitty's real take

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they just have it on standby

fierce walrus
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lol

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how many copypastas do we have right now?

narrow niche
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Uhm,,,,

fierce walrus
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the R1C1, the charger one

narrow niche
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Carbine is the brainless upgrade to pistol. An argument can be made its the same thing basically, even if it spreads its damage output across 4 bullets. Better DPS, got a nice sight... Relatively speaking.

Otherwise anything is fine if you can use it. With sole exception being HEL AutoPistol, not sure how to get milleage out of that thing.

silent delta
narrow niche
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Hi, I donโ€™t play GTFO, but I watch the streams because of your great mood, great voice and great playlist. I love your gameplay and am learning a little myself. Keep up the good work! I have just one question about the mechanics of the game, please explain why you always have a โ€œExpedition failedโ€ sign at the end?

narrow niche
fierce walrus
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oh

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OH RIGHT

ocean spindle
narrow niche
# fierce walrus how many copypastas do we have right now?

I hate all these Hange ๐Ÿซƒ wannabe players hoarding all the medipacks gtfoheart, not contributing until 3 downed trying to long kite thinking they are so cool having watched a single professor scalar ๐Ÿ‰ tutorial on r2e1.
Like come on, you think you free-weekend players ๐Ÿค‘ can handle GTFO? That's cute. Do you know how many hours I have in cod zombies ๐Ÿคฆ ? Like you think you're hot shit because you've played Samdown, T3-E3? Get real!
You're just a wannabe speedrunner ๐Ÿง  who couldn't even handle Heat Havoc if your life depended on it.

Nah, Hange would win ๐Ÿ”ฅ , face it, you're out of your league.

Go back to Fortnite, stop joining Rose's ๐ŸŒน lobbies thinking your hot shit, let the real Gamers (Voxy, Hange) handle this.
You're nothing but a pub-tier main player pretending to hang with the big dogs. Go back to door bugging your clears.

Don't @me, git gud.
๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

ocean spindle
#

omg copypaste now laugh it's hilarious isn't it

narrow niche
fierce walrus
#

?

ocean spindle
#

surprised ifo hasn't been flagged for spam or something

narrow niche
fierce walrus
upper ginkgo
fierce walrus
upper ginkgo
#

this is slander

narrow niche
ocean spindle
silent delta
#

i volunteer my name to replace vozy's

fierce walrus
silent delta
#

i definitely have the skill to back it up

#

trust

fierce walrus
#

we should change it to "Not Voxy"

silent delta
#

voxyn't

fierce walrus
#

voxnot

frail heart
fierce walrus
silent delta
tardy ingot
#

since specials have generally just more power

#

...

halcyon current
#

Me walking around with 2 hel shotguns I simply hotswap between

tardy ingot
#

2 hel rifles, chargers never stood a chance

halcyon current
#

Lmao

tardy ingot
#

2 scatters, what boss?

halcyon current
#

If you ever played Hunt Showdown like having 2 of the long ammo pistols in your loadout and fast swapping them

soft crater
silent delta
#

i mean, i didnt really put that much thought into it

#

but sure, no doubles

halcyon current
#

Even if there weren't double you could simply run Hel Gun Scatter

silent delta
#

the main weapons are usually a lot more ammo efficient which is why i was wondering

soft crater
#

Next to ammo refills would have to be adjusted to match

halcyon current
#

The better the group the more ammo you'll have just laying around

fierce walrus
#

burst cannon + scatter
Ultimate boss killer

silent delta
#

also there are some very strong main weapons

#

stronger than many specials

soft crater
#

If there was no Main/Special. Ammo refills would have to be reworked

silent delta
#

i would assume they retain the same refill percentages, you just have it in a different slot

#

i guess the next question would be, how would the meta develop

halcyon current
#

Then you just put a more economical special in your main slot

silent delta
#

i saw the shounic video on tf2 where any class could equip any weapon and i got curious

#

of how that would go for this game

hardy grotto
#

the issue is main slot just gets less ammo than the special slot

soft crater
#

Beth while you're here. What do you think is the worst loadout? (Unless you agree with these options)

hardy grotto
#

all the ones with sniper are wrong tbh

#

but that just depends on like

#

what everyone else on the team is running

silent delta
#

solace are we assuming this is a solo loadout

hardy grotto
#

with a loadout like slug sniper you just dont shoot much in a team environment

tardy ingot
hardy grotto
#

in a solo environment uh

#

good luck iwth all of these

silent delta
soft crater
tardy ingot
#

sniper (the least efficient special) is 5.1
Slug is 7.51

combat shotty is at 22.5
best main is like ~13

silent delta
#

which is what, hel shotty?

tardy ingot
silent delta
#

maybe we can run 8 snipers

#

then it's viable

#

kraken simply despawns

tardy ingot
hardy grotto
#

the only option for running 2 specials is pump shotgun

#

it is the most fun thing im telling you

tardy ingot
#

its just 16 mag shotty

#

based

hardy grotto
#

constantly quick swap between them

#

double pump gaming

soft crater
tardy ingot
#

Fuckin fortnite kids

silent delta
#

anything that gets close dies instantly

hardy grotto
#

i didnt even play fortnite during that time

#

but it goes hard

silent delta
#

i have never once played fortnite

soft crater
#

16 shots of 30 dmg

#

Unless your shotgun goofs and reloads 7

hardy grotto
#

i have a like 10 minute clip of double pump gaming

silent delta
#

i guess if you could run two specials, would anyone still run things like sawed off or hel shotty or hel revo?

soft crater
#

I haven't touched shotgun in a minute*

silent delta
#

i havent actually seen that bug in quite a while

fierce walrus
silent delta
#

on any gun

tardy ingot
#

it depends on when you reload

silent delta
fierce walrus
#

I usually got it on high cal

silent delta
#

lmao there was that period where high cal reloaded to 5 like 80% of the time

fierce walrus
#

that the bug happens?

tardy ingot
#

I dont think so
But idk

tardy ingot
hardy grotto
silent delta
#

im glad when bugs are that game breaking at least the devs fix it

soft crater
silent delta
#

that was like what, two weeks before it got patched?

soft crater
#

The list is getting bigger

hardy grotto
#

im gonna give an actual loadout

fierce walrus
hardy grotto
#

i gotta go look

silent delta
#

no keep all loadouts with sniper are wrong

fierce walrus
#

all loadouts are wrong

#

just that

hardy grotto
#

i honestly think i agree with ray

silent delta
#

there is no worst loadout because the point of a game is to have fun and someome might have fun with any loadout

safe cradle
tardy ingot
#

having played with ray on that loadout

He actually could deal with chargers

silent delta
hardy grotto
#

yeah

#

short rifle goes hard

safe cradle
#

it depends on when you reload like darkeva said, IIRC it's on 3 shells

tardy ingot
#

its a weak loadout but it does waveclear

silent delta
safe cradle
#

I THINK PDW also has that case for a specific bullet amount but cant remember which

hardy grotto
#

i can hold waves so much better with short rifle than arbalist

tardy ingot
#

slug/sniper is so niche and specific that whether its stacked or solo you suck

And your team picking any boss/giant clear is also kinda troll if they are allowed to adapt

silent delta
#

sounds like a reload skill diff

hardy grotto
#

nah its just a gun diff tbh

fierce walrus
hardy grotto
silent delta
#

i love decimal ammo values its my favorite

hardy grotto
#

its just not good at it

safe cradle
hardy grotto
#

like ray's loadout

tardy ingot
#

Being able to start shooting immediatly and chosing shots is pretty nice in this game

silent delta
#

slug/sniper is the ultimate "i hate flyers" loadout

hardy grotto
#

theyre both dogwater at what they can do

tardy ingot
#

rays loadout in general just has a more general application

#

and doesnt skill issue itself

hardy grotto
#

the thing with the slug sniper loadout is you literally just dont shoot very much

#

which is honestly fine

silent delta
#

can we also clown on yuki for a moment for saying cfoam

tardy ingot
#

a loadout you dont wanna use (shoot) seems worse than one you just do little with while shooting

hardy grotto
#

do your role and do nothing else

soft crater
tardy ingot
#

your role : basically nothing
(And if team has any of hel rifle/scatter or burst, there is no role)

safe cradle
#

What's the context? Am I soloing? All 4 same loadout?

silent delta
#

no way foam is worst than shot or auto turret

silent delta
hardy grotto
#

assume that the slug sniper is the giant clear/boss kill

silent delta
safe cradle
#

or if the full team ALL have the same loadout

soft crater
#

It honestly almost became Shotgun sentry / Spear for all of them until Yuki and cubix

hardy grotto
#

ar just feels so bad as well

tardy ingot
#

if you have the rest of the team go to the opposite of your role then i agree its probably quite similar

But considering of the 4 best specials 3 are rly good into giants and 2 into bossesโ€ฆ

silent delta
#

im glad we can at least all agree spear is worst in slot

tardy ingot
soft crater
#

Well.

hardy grotto
#

honestly im not sure it does eva

tardy ingot
#

12.6 kills/refill in total on strikers

#

is so yikes

soft crater
#

They all have spear actually.

silent delta
#

at least slug can one shot little guys if you aim well

hardy grotto
#

maybe i should try ar sniper

tardy ingot
#

ar sniper might compete yea

#

same for bullpup sniper tbh

hardy grotto
#

i feel like id subconsciously shoot more ar

#

than i would slug

silent delta
#

oh right bullpup

#

honestly id say bullpup sniper is a strong contender

hardy grotto
#

my ammo balance would easily be worse lmao

silent delta
#

you get like zero uptime

soft crater
#

Bull pup PI_monikasleepy

hardy grotto
#

bullpup has less uptime but i think its better than ar

silent delta
#

yeah but with sniper?

#

which also has like no uptime

hardy grotto
#

it'd still be usable

#

i think just by bullpup not being as bad as ar its still a better pick

#

the thing is you dont wanna be shooting much

silent delta
#

i think that when i run bullpup when im memeing i have more fun with it than i do with ar

hardy grotto
#

putting ammo on you is going to be a waste unless youre able to balance sniper by shooting bigs

silent delta
#

it feels better to fire

#

even if the reload speed fucking kneecaps it

soft crater
#

If only Bullpup didn't lose it's Dmgfalloff range advantage on AR

silent delta
#

at least it has ok dps for the quarter second you get to fire it

hardy grotto
#

dont forget guys you can 1 mag a hybrid with bullpup theoretically

#

just gotta hit head

soft crater
#

1.0x go crazy

silent delta
#

wait fr?

hardy grotto
#

ye

silent delta
#

holy shit

#

wow

#

i never knew that

safe cradle
#

you can occi scout with bullpup

silent delta
#

man now im sad, if they would just make the reload a little shorter i think it would be a fun gun

hardy grotto
#

didnt bullpup damage get buffed sometime recently too

#

i dont remember

#

if it did its even easier

silent delta
#

i know they buffed the reload speed to 2.1s, and then like the very next balance they fucking nerfed it back to 2.3s for some reason

soft crater
#

Iirc it was something with the animation isn't it?

hardy grotto
#

there was a patch where they tocuhed auto weapons

tardy ingot
#

I think the argument of โ€žyou dont wanna shoot this loadoutโ€œ is kinda for a loadout being worse

hardy grotto
#

but i dont remember which ones

#

its just a sniper thing eva

#

you dont wanna snipe smalls

silent delta
#

especially when the "i dont want to shoot" loadout has spear to fall back on lmao

tardy ingot
#

i do agree tho that AR is definetly an argument over slug

#

slug is just a massive baby wave handicap

hardy grotto
#

so when i run sniper i just shoot less

tardy ingot
#

yea
But you probably pick a good main in general

hardy grotto
#

unless im competing for damage in which case im stealing the 6 use and chowing down

tardy ingot
#

iirc i didnt have lowest damage in the run with solace/ray (and a pub) at least for a while

Dunno how it ended

hardy grotto
#

eva i had a pub yesterday

#

in r8c1

halcyon current
#

My 2 cents is that there's a use case argument for slug as opposed to AR being "why not just take pistol?"

hardy grotto
#

where after secondary

#

they had 98 damage

tardy ingot
#

thats kinda the point

Snipers so limited. In solo it sucks
In 4 of it, its giga ass

And if your team balances loadouts around you (basically avoiding the best specials in the game) it also in context makes the team worse

tardy ingot
#

How

#

What guns?

silent delta
#

ar is just "this gun isnt strictly bad but there are so many options that do the exact same thing better"

hardy grotto
#

hel auto pp scatter

tardy ingot
#

AR is strictly bad rn

tardy ingot
#

I WAS ABOUT TO MEME

#

โ€žDont tell me scatterโ€œ

hardy grotto
#

we watched the replay

#

and he was just going around hacking locks

tardy ingot
#

thats 1 fucking shot

hardy grotto
#

on every door

tardy ingot
#

On any shadow giants

hardy grotto
#

he ended the game with less than 2k damage

#

i gotta find the ss

#

i had 8.3k damage at the end

tardy ingot
#

Hey 2k is okay if he never ate refills

#

:^ )

hardy grotto
#

im honestly wondering if he did

#

tbh

tardy ingot
#

did you know
The best hel rifle user in r8e2 is sniper sentry

tardy ingot
#

new stat musicmommyZoom ?

hardy grotto
#

we probably gave him some at the end

#

but for most of the game i dont think we did

#

because he wasnt shooting very much

#

when he did shoot he spammed all his hel auto pp before firing scatter rlly

#

but

tardy ingot
#

hey

#

scatter only had like 6 shots okay?

#

hel pp had 200+

#

you gotta balance correctly

minor fractal
#

I'm just happy they did 400 damage to the second tank.

#

After 4 shots

#

(while I did 600 w/ host shotgun).

civic furnace
ocean spindle
#

is there a name for the coding that the terminals/warden logs use
or is it just ingame funny funny coding

#

idk anything about coding so

frail heart
#

Wdym?

#

Like the list ammopack_235 stuff?

ocean spindle
#

uhh more so for example
ACCESS -BIOCOM -29$525GVTHR2%456FS
Instantiating BIOCOM.net(CLI)...
ready:_
conduit_gather()
executing...
validating dict[ ]โ€ฆ
asset: cerebrospinal_fluid, 15000/15000
asset: X-gen_compound_catalyst, 15000/15000
asset: N-33S_endocrine_stimulator, 15000/15000
this but taken out of a r6 log

#

cause it seems like- convincing enough it's coding but also seems invented

frail heart
#

It more just looks like console outputs

#

With some methods and other shit

ocean spindle
#

i guess there's like a few instances of it so it could be two different things while for a normal person they seem like the same

frail heart
#

Yeah itโ€™s definitely not coding

#

Unless itโ€™s some obscure shit idk about

keen path
#

but a real answer is no, they probably have been inspired by Fallout-esque terminals

ocean spindle
#

mhh makes sense

#

i'll guess i'll write based on off it

keen path
soft crater
#
poll_question_text

is GTFO better with or without mines?

victor_answer_votes

4

total_votes

4

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

with mines

soft crater
#

Crazy

carmine crescent
#

What main weapon is best against the flying meatballs?

soft crater
#

DMR/Hel revo if you hit center eye

carmine crescent
#

Thanks

silent delta
# silent delta
poll_question_text

how broken would it be if both gun slots could use guns from both pools

victor_answer_votes

5

total_votes

6

victor_answer_id

3

victor_answer_text

broken

silent delta
carmine crescent
#

Yuck

#

But good to know

#

Is that the only shotty that is good for meatballs?

woeful steppe
#

this has probably been asked a lot but how many hours do you think it takes to complete every mission in the game start to finish? I'm assuming it's easily hundreds of hours ๐Ÿ˜ญ

digital mural
woeful steppe
#

that's not terrible actually

#

and like 100% of the game including every bonus objective and achievement?

digital mural
#

Same lenght

upper ginkgo
#

you could technically do it on your first playthrough

woeful steppe
#

I'd assume it's a lot harder though so it'll take more time from all the fails?

digital mural
#

300-400 with fails

woeful steppe
#

I expected far more tbh

digital mural
#

:)

sturdy nest
#

Is there an easy way to try all the weapons, like a range?

tardy ingot
sturdy nest
#

Thanks

minor fractal
cursive stratus
#

R1a1 is like perfect for that

#

Cuz there's only one entrance you got to worry about

woeful steppe
silent delta
#

choke mod is ok

#

slug shoots one projectile that does 24 damage and flyers have just under 20 health, so even wtih a bit of damage falloff it can one shot without hitting the weakpoint

#

the others might fuck you on pellet dispersal

carmine crescent
#

How is it considered a shotgun if it only shoots one projectile?

silent delta
#

slug

#

do u know what a slug is

carmine crescent
#

Nope

#

I thought it was an animal

silent delta
#

real shotguns can shoot it instead of buckshot

carmine crescent
#

I see

silent delta
#

its basically just a lump of metal

silent delta
#

usually used for hunting big game

narrow niche
#

excuse me

#

goob

silent delta
#

is that not right

narrow niche
#

why are you misinfo

zinc fable
#

Skibidi

narrow niche
#

its 21

keen seal
#

both of those are wrong

silent delta
#

i swear i read the wiki and it said 24

zinc fable
#

Rizz

silent delta
#

no it does 21 and i am stupid

narrow niche
#

its 21...

zinc fable
#

Ohio

silent delta
#

listen

#

my brain has like 1 MB of ram

zinc fable
#

Gyatt

narrow niche
#

also flyers what

carmine crescent
#

Still one shots anyways

silent delta
#

yeah

zinc fable
#

Mewing

ocean spindle
silent delta
#

its not ideal but it works

zinc fable
#

Rizz

narrow niche
#

flyers have 16.2

silent delta
#

and you dont actually have to hit the weakpoint

narrow niche
#

you goober

zinc fable
#

Gyatt

ocean spindle
#

no it is kinda ideal- it's the best weapon for a flyer, just not rlly worth it for most levels anyway

silent delta
halcyon current
#

Everyone point and laugh at Goob

ocean spindle
#

cause u never encounter so many

zinc fable
#

Skibidi

narrow niche
silent delta
#

basically the same thing

zinc fable
#

Bomboclat

silent delta
#

not a single interactoin chnage

narrow niche
#

im gonna cry

zinc fable
#

Fanum tax

ocean spindle
carmine crescent
#

All I needed to know is if it one shots ๐Ÿ˜ญ

silent delta
#

i was going off of my memory of what the wiki said

zinc fable
#

Rizz

silent delta
#

i swear it wasnt intentional misinformation

narrow niche
zinc fable
#

Ohio

silent delta
#

however sadly slug shotty sucks against pretty much everythign else

zinc fable
#

Skibidi

ocean spindle
#

ur not funny putting funny funny words

carmine crescent
#

The damage numbers mean nothing to me

narrow niche
#

the numbers mason

#

what do they mean

ocean spindle
narrow niche
#

^

#

it loses too much else

ocean spindle
#

u can take many other guns who do remotely ok and in different circumstances

carmine crescent
narrow niche
#

just no reason to use it

zinc fable
#

Ohio

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

pick it cause is fun i guess

zinc fable
#

Rizz

ocean spindle
#

i pick it cause is fun

zinc fable
#

Skibidi

silent delta
uneven gulchBOT
zinc fable
#

Gyatt

ocean spindle
uneven gulchBOT
silent delta
uneven gulchBOT
zinc fable
#

LOL

#

Mb

ocean spindle
#

the funnies don't work u can stop

carmine crescent
#

Also the immortal appears in r7 correct?

ocean spindle
#

yes

#

:3

carmine crescent
#

Oki

ocean spindle
#

funny lil guy

#

:3

carmine crescent
#

:3

silent delta
#

nothing lil about him

#

btu yes funny

narrow niche
silent delta
#

im gonna whack him with my hammer ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

silent delta
carmine crescent
narrow niche
carmine crescent
silent delta
#

slander

carmine crescent
#

Correct

carmine crescent
silent delta
#

no its a pablo

narrow niche
silent delta
#

dont wake up the pablo

narrow niche
#

not the same pablo

silent delta
#

different instance of same pablo

narrow niche
#

yea mab

carmine crescent
#

I swear that guy was killable

ocean spindle
silent delta
ocean spindle
#

cause ||in one room is the immortal and on another room is a normal one||

#

||and there's extra spoilers i won't say PLAY THE GAME||

#

||STOP READING SMH||

#

||:3||

narrow niche
#

^

#

:3

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

fuck u

narrow niche
#

and the end

ocean spindle
#

:c

narrow niche
#

there is also

#

:3

silent delta
#

<3

#

im also glad you all have very quickly taken to calling me goob instead of dread

#

i suppose i chose this

ocean spindle
#

i mean tbf i didn't know how to shorten ur name

silent delta
#

dread

#

is what most people call me online

ocean spindle
#

that just sounds like
condescending KDMSKD

silent delta
#

huh

ocean spindle
#

"oh dreads here"

silent delta
#

i have never thought that

#

its just meeeee :3

#

my name

#

been called dread for years

narrow niche
#

:3

silent delta
#

i mean if you'd prefer you can call me naughty ๐Ÿ˜

narrow niche
#

sorry what

ocean spindle
carmine crescent
#

Like that one Metroid game?

ocean spindle
#

also shush :3

silent delta
#

make me :3

narrow niche
#

woah

#

take this to general smh

ocean spindle
#

wow he's being an ifo

#

smh

narrow niche
#

i am always ifo...

#

:3

ocean spindle
#

not u

silent delta
#

DAMMIT

#

sorry automod

ocean spindle
#

dreads being an ifo

silent delta
#

is ifo h*rny on main

ocean spindle
#

U

narrow niche
ocean spindle
#

smh

ocean spindle
#

a lot

#

too much

narrow niche
#

i would never

#

slander

silent delta
#

yeah id believe it

narrow niche
#

im hurt by these assumptions

ocean spindle
#

oke

silent delta
#

go to h*rny jail

ocean spindle
#

anyways KDMSKD

silent delta
#

bonk

ocean spindle
#

bonk

silent delta
narrow niche
#

no thats

ocean spindle
#

literally me, gay and bottom god does punish two times

#

:]

narrow niche
#

say hi to bottom

silent delta
narrow niche
#

free password

ocean spindle
#

i am just a password generator only that's what y'all don't know

silent delta
#

hey slendo <insert hilarious joke>

#

give me a windows 10 activation key

ocean spindle
#

uh
sex

#

:]

silent delta
#

microsoft told me to kms

ocean spindle
#

i am password generator not password guesser

#

hack somewhere else

silent delta
#

im gonna uplink your brain to my hard drive

ocean spindle
#

:[ noo i don't wanna be a computer

silent delta
#

get computered

#

idiot

#

now give me passwords

#

๐Ÿ”ซ

ocean spindle
#

plays doom

silent delta
#

YOOOOOO

#

can a chair run doom