gtfo-related-questions

[hardy grotto]

technically you can still do it with artifacts, items or sentry

but it’s useless rlly

[ocean spindle]

yeah but it's so complicated it's not rlly worth

[chilly ivy]

Ah okay okay

Thanks guys, you were really helpful

[ocean spindle]

it's no problemoss

[chilly ivy]

What's the best resource when it comes to guides and stuff? is it the wiki?

[silent delta]

wiki or this server honestly

the guides channel is quite handy

[digital mural]

Eva videos

#guides-and-reviews

[chilly ivy]

Okay, perfect! Thanks guys

[acoustic hazel]

gtfo vr update when

[finite oracle]

how many strikes does it take to kill a ||charger giant|| with melee weapons

[minor fractal]

Hammer is 6 or 3 to back.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_YpsPCclnYXiLGaSlCp4efNewkwHUG-RukGpJKdQEnI/edit?gid=805761801#gid=805761801

[summer marten]

yo i bought the game and understood nothing can some1 help

[silent delta]

what do u need help with

[digital mural]

what do you need to know

[halcyon current]

^

[soft crater]

[digital mural]

he never replied

he got lost in the complex

[carmine crescent]

what up gamers i need some advice on how to beat the class IV alarm solo in R2A1, im currently going smg, shotgun, and burst sentry

[silent delta]

get good at kiting

hmm, could also probably bring a better main

[carmine crescent]

theres not many good places to kite

[ocean spindle]

probs the same way u would beat r1a1, with foam by holding down the spawn door and maybe foaming up the entrance to the other

[carmine crescent]

and im bad

[ocean spindle]

why are u trying to solo r2a1

[carmine crescent]

just wanna

[ocean spindle]

did u do r1a1 and b1 already

[silent delta]

based

[tardy ingot]

Bruh na

[carmine crescent]

ye

[ocean spindle]

ok that's fair then

[carmine crescent]

and r6a1, r7a1, and r8a1

[ocean spindle]

ok actually way more fair

[tardy ingot]

This is the „get better bots mod“ of „how to beat c with bots“ recommendations for solo

[silent delta]

i was half joking

[carmine crescent]

theres two places they can come in

so i cant really c foam

[silent delta]

like im sure if one was good at kiting it would be easier but its not the only method

[silent delta]

just means u need more cfoam

[tardy ingot]

yoz can get a better main weapon

Everything else is learning to shoot better

[silent delta]

also why smg?

[tardy ingot]

Or run mines, its probably more stable honestly

[carmine crescent]

lots of ammo and can stagger easily

ik hel rev is prob better

but im bad

[ocean spindle]

for stagger u can bring a hel autopistol and it'll stagger and damage better tbh

with the pen

[carmine crescent]

i never thought of that

[silent delta]

if you're looking for a midrange spam weapon with good ammo try auto pp or carbine

[carmine crescent]

ive tried, a lot of rng unfortunatly

[silent delta]

but yeah hel revo sawed off or hel shotty might serve you better

or dmr, if you can hit headshots

[ocean spindle]

hel autopistol is not midrange

it's short range

[silent delta]

close to mid

[ocean spindle]

but r2a1 is so short range anyway

no it's like 5 meters

[silent delta]

it can still stagger at midrange

[carmine crescent]

yeah

[ocean spindle]

mid range is like 7

[silent delta]

just doenst kill as well

[carmine crescent]

too enclosed for dmr

already tried that

and failed

[silent delta]

just a thought

in that case yeah, auto pp, carbine, or one of the shotguns

[carmine crescent]

what is the auto pp

[tardy ingot]

Hel auto can stagger at fuckin 20 meters

[silent delta]

autopistol

[silent delta]

thats what im sayin

[tardy ingot]

well basically

not with 1 bullet anymore

But who tap shoots that shit

[carmine crescent]

what is the best shotgun?

[silent delta]

you have so much ammo and a free reload

[silent delta]

hel shotty and sawed off are both excellent

[carmine crescent]

fast reload?

[silent delta]

slug shotty kinda sucks

[silent delta]

very

[carmine crescent]

ill give it a shot

[carmine crescent]

slug has a dope scope though

[tardy ingot]

Id just recommend carbine…

Easy

Fast

[silent delta]

you got me there

[tardy ingot]

strong

doesnt require good aim

Has good range still

[silent delta]

carbine is quite good as well yes

honestly kind of boxes out all the smg and ar sidegrades lmao

it does what they do better

[ocean spindle]

slug shottie kicks ass for me but only in two levels of the game and they are both B2s

[silent delta]

isnt it good against like flyers and thats it

[ocean spindle]

yeah pretty much

r8b2 and r2b2

[carmine crescent]

good to know

[tardy ingot]

Bruh wtf r2b2??

[ocean spindle]

don't take that too to heart u will actually never pick it for that

[tardy ingot]

r8b2 maybe with the flyers
But r2b2??

[carmine crescent]

ik

[tardy ingot]

slug being the best anti flyer main is a funny meme

[ocean spindle]

fucking typos i keep writing another letter

[tardy ingot]

but who the fucks picks anti flyer guns

[silent delta]

"good against flyers" means "not as shit as it is against everythign else"

[carmine crescent]

i see

[silent delta]

isnt dmr better

[ocean spindle]

scattergun and slug shottie is kinda fun ngl
that or revo depending on the weapons in the lobby

[carmine crescent]

scattergun is at least good

[ocean spindle]

slug shotties a oneshot dmr needs the eye shot i think

which is hard to do

[silent delta]

scattergun is fair and balanced 👍

[tardy ingot]

1 shotting on good range without crit is better

[silent delta]

just dont miss and its a straight upgrade

ez

[ocean spindle]

revos fine too don't let em fool u

[tardy ingot]

Dmr is more like PR

[silent delta]

mmmm

[silent delta]

blasphemy

[tardy ingot]

needs crit

[ocean spindle]

:[

[tardy ingot]

Generally busted yes

Tho maybe not for solo a1

[carmine crescent]

that is true

[tardy ingot]

Just take sawed off

[carmine crescent]

maybe ill try scattergun solo

[silent delta]

who needs ammo anyway

[carmine crescent]

just to prove you wrong

[carmine crescent]

fr

[ocean spindle]

no thanks that's for actually difficult levels
for b2 i get to pick whatever i want

[carmine crescent]

rip sniper

[ocean spindle]

any b2

[tardy ingot]

I have done r6a1 with every possible pre r8 loadout

[silent delta]

i like some variety in my gun choices

which is why im sad that theres really only like 7 or 8 optimal options in each slot

[tardy ingot]

That includes garbage sawed off/scatter bio

its just stupid to play

[carmine crescent]

which is the hardest and easiest a mission solo

[ocean spindle]

when u play r6d1 i always always try and go bullpup and sniper

[ocean spindle]

r5a1 sec is always hardest

no matter the circumstances

[carmine crescent]

what is the sec?

[ocean spindle]

easiest probs r8a1 or r6a1

[carmine crescent]

i forgor

[ocean spindle]

plant collection

3 S scans

[carmine crescent]

damn

A mission?

[carmine crescent]

yeah r6a1 had two checkpoints i believe

or one idk

[tardy ingot]

easiest
R6A1 or R7A1

Hardest, R8A2

[ocean spindle]

that doesn't count

[carmine crescent]

i dont really count r8a2 as an "A" mission

[ocean spindle]

that's a c tier

[tardy ingot]

Its an A

[ocean spindle]

it's conceptually made as a c tier

[tardy ingot]

its an A thats intended to be a mid C/low D in difficulty with secondary

[carmine crescent]

has anyone beaten e2 solo yet?

[tardy ingot]

no

If jish says „yes with exploits“ imma force them to play 10 R8C1s

[past mesa]

Without exploits no with it isn’t that bad

[mossy dome]

Read to piss

[ocean spindle]

ew

[carmine crescent]

this may be a stupid question but is kiting considered an exploit?

[past mesa]

No

[tardy ingot]

its cheese

[past mesa]

Exploits stop the enemy’s drone behaving

[carmine crescent]

yum

[carmine crescent]

so pretty much cheating

[tardy ingot]

Also jish

Did you ever confirm that the revival strat fixed the infinite screaming scout bug?

[past mesa]

Yeah but a few e tiers haven’t been bested without them atm

[tardy ingot]

Cuz fuck its happened on r8c1 3 times already

[past mesa]

Oh yeah it does

But you can also just c foam the scout

[tardy ingot]

[carmine crescent]

which ones?

[tardy ingot]

issue is what if the scout is like 3 minutes away

[past mesa]

R4e1 secondary r7e1 r8e2

[tardy ingot]

^

[past mesa]

probs more

I feel likewe have done this discussion with you

[tardy ingot]

and R2 and 5 got mega cheesed aswell no?

[past mesa]

Like a week ago

[past mesa]

R2e1 can just be kited

[carmine crescent]

i dont think so

[past mesa]

No you just started chatting right under where we did this last time

[indigo lion]

peak

[carmine crescent]

I don’t member that

[ocean spindle]

i remember u
playing gtfo
but maybe not

[carmine crescent]

I asked about R1A1

But then I beat that

Then got stuck again

[tiny wyvern]

The f is a pouncer

[twin terrace]

nerd way of saying snatcher

[hazy wedge]

Pouncer is what snatchers are called in the files but surprisingly there is no “snatcher” because the trailer lied to us 😔

[silent delta]

doggo c:

[upper ginkgo]

how tf is mom winning

she doesn't even have a mouth

[halcyon current]

Maybe Freud was right

[past mesa]

Flyier

Is the best option

By far you guys aren’t ready to hear it

[halcyon current]

Imagine showing this poll to The Warden

[past mesa]

I think the warden should vote

[halcyon current]

I do too

[upper ginkgo]

rationalize to me why a person would pick flyer

[civic furnace]

I did not fall in a well :((

[past mesa]

I can’t type it out

Without getting banned

Ngl

[upper ginkgo]

bummer, was hoping it was gonna happen

[upper ginkgo]

it's ok, just say it in general

i'm sure it'll be fine

[past mesa]

Flyer is portable and all mouth

like a certain image of bread it would be the best option

Because let’s be real most gtfo enemies don’t give good head

[upper ginkgo]

is teeth like not a concern for you guys

[past mesa]

All the people who have given me head have teeth

I don’t go after grands parents

[upper ginkgo]

ok but they're also functional creatures with a brain

wait i'm not gonna fall for your trap anymore

i'm not gonna let you drag me down

[past mesa]

If you look into gtfo

Lore

They have brains

Frosty confirmed it

[upper ginkgo]

i'm sure she'll have a lot to say about this topic

[past mesa]

Oh I am sure she would

But I don’t feel like it is serious enough for gtfo-lore

[halcyon current]

Who knows

Maybe there's a lore doc on this

Did you actually read all of em?

[frail heart]

no i didnt 🤡

[upper ginkgo]

we're talking about the real frosty

[frail heart]

yeah thats me

[upper ginkgo]

get out of here you poser

[frail heart]

at least im bearable

actually nvm

[upper ginkgo]

at least you're self aware...

[frail heart]

LESGO

[past mesa]

Can’t read

[sturdy glen]

frosty toxic arc

lets go

[halcyon current]

Exactly, me either

[past mesa]

Only a matter of time before frosty starts talking about sleepers giving them head

2arcs it took

[woeful steppe]

is there some small brightness setting somewhere I missed? I swear the game looks darker when I play it compared to when I watch ppl play it in videos, and I don't think it's just editing either

[ocean spindle]

no, the games just rlly dark in general- theres some levels that do look brighter than others so maybe that could be it

but yeah pitch black darkness is just, a black screen and if someone sees past a meter in a video

it's editing

[woeful steppe]

damn

appreciate the answer at least ty

[ocean spindle]

glowies my beloved

it's no problem

[halcyon current]

This is one of the only games I've played that does darkness right

In that it'll actually be straight up pitch black in some places lmao

[carmine crescent]

You have a flashlight for a reason

My teammates think it’s used to wake every room

But I would disagree

[hard nexus]

The flashlight or the darkness?

[carmine crescent]

The flashlight

[hard nexus]

No it's to synchronise

But like

Pitch dark + fog even flashlight is meh

Just rely on the mix of reticle shrink sound skill issue and muscle memory

Sprinkle some frame drops on top and it's perfect

[finite oracle]

does the bat apply its stager bonus to any sleeping enemy?

[civic wave]

stagger multiplier is applied to any damage you deal, regardless of enemy state

so yes

[finite oracle]

ok

[carmine crescent]

Does the bat stagger the giants?

[civic wave]

yeah a full charge will cause a light stagger

[carmine crescent]

Full charge?

The bat sucks

[frail heart]

skill issue

[ocean spindle]

skill bat issue

[keen seal]

bat issue

[humble night]

Pub issue

[narrow niche]

Womp womp

[civic wave]

purb

[carmine crescent]

You guys don’t have to be so mean :((

[hazy wedge]

Yuki issue

[woeful steppe]

I like long range :)

[ocean spindle]

that's what u get when u insult to the bat >:3

[soft crater]

Insulting a weapon without understanding its use will likely get ppl responding so idk what you expected.

[fierce walrus]

You insult anything that isnt spear, slug shotgun or short rifle, and thats what you get

unless you provide actual reasoning

[soft crater]

Nah. Helshotgun bad

[keen seal]

kill this individual right this instant

[halcyon current]

Hel Shotgun bad. Why? Because I have to stand close to the enemy and that's scary.

[jagged shore]

don't forget stagger being a useless mechanic

[fierce walrus]

So true

[fierce walrus]

stagger is a lie made by the dogshit speedruners who cant play the game right so they seem smarter

trust me

[halcyon current]

Finally, someone speaking the truth in the GTFO discord

[carmine crescent]

I like spear

[fierce walrus]

DIE

[carmine crescent]

What’s wrong with spear

[halcyon current]

Primarily the movespeed while charging

[civic wave]

Poor damage breakpoints, it cripples your movement

[hazy wedge]

Sprint speed while charging is 0.75 or 3/4s your actual sprint speed compared to other melees

[halcyon current]

I'll be honest if not for that I'd probably actually use spear

[past mesa]

TRUUUUUUU

Just kill the enemies

[past mesa]

The main issue with spear is when things go wrong you shouldn’t really use it

And in fast stealth you will never get to melee anything compared to hammer and bat players

If you are just in stealth and you never wake up rooms and you play really slowly spear is fine

It is better than it used to be but currently spear has the worst stam options in the game

[lost flame]

Spear's nice in ceirtan niche enviorments or situations

[past mesa]

only slow stealth

[lost flame]

lets say lots of big folks to stealth around and you got plenty of damage boosters for melee

[past mesa]

?? But you can just use hammer

[halcyon current]

^

[past mesa]

And get the same results

[lost flame]

Spear more burst dmg, makes it easier to avoid waking anything up

[past mesa]

And be sprinting

you have 5 extra burst damage

At most

[halcyon current]

I think the only thing spear has is a very small amount more damage on a head opener for giants

[past mesa]

Which isn’t a break point ?

[lost flame]

wait deadass its that little for crit?

[halcyon current]

It's not noticeable in practice

[past mesa]

Yeah

[halcyon current]

Yeah spear is straight up bad

[civic furnace]

be kind jish he just carried us in r3d1

[lost flame]

hangon its that low? lemme check the wiki

[civic furnace]

very good player

[lost flame]

(gtfo wiki is up to date on melee weapons right)

[past mesa]

17.5 base damage 1.3 headshot muilt

[fierce walrus]

probably

[past mesa]

Compared to hammer 20 base 1.0
muilt

[lost flame]

ill be damned

thats

fucking nothing

[halcyon current]

Correct

[fierce walrus]

and thats why spear (still) sucks

[halcyon current]

It's 20 vs like 22.75 damage iirc

[past mesa]

That is why we say it is to much of a trade off for no gain

[lost flame]

actually checking the wiki rn

its

its less than 1 dmg difference on crit full charged

[fierce walrus]

So worth it

[past mesa]

Sounds about right

You have to watch out for the melee fall off

[halcyon current]

And all it costs you is your ability to sprint while charging a melee

[lost flame]

26.25 for spear, 26 for hammer

[past mesa]

XD

[fierce walrus]

”balancing”

[lost flame]

man i was severely mistaken just how bad spear was

man thats wack since its like

[halcyon current]

You could be doing .25 more damage per attack if you saw off your legs at the knee

[lost flame]

such a cool gun

[past mesa]

Yeah then the other issue with spear is if you fill charge to the body you can light to the body to stagger or kill

Without back

[fierce walrus]

spear is a gun??????

[past mesa]

Which is actually a big deal

Tbh

[halcyon current]

Are guns not just complex spears?

[lost flame]

oops yeah it is now

[lost flame]

Guns are just elaborate ways of throwing a sharp object

[fierce walrus]

Hmmm perhaps
Tbf everything is just a very complex form of stick

[lost flame]

needlessly complicated mechanisms just to eject a sharp object when you can just throw a spear.

[carmine crescent]

I just like the range

Sue me

[fierce walrus]

objectively

spear sucks

its range doesnt justify its downsides

im gonna sue you for commiting a crime against humanity (liking spear unironically)

[woeful steppe]

How do I change what character I am in GTFO?

[fierce walrus]

Its determined by the order you join the lobby

[woeful steppe]

damn

[halcyon current]

If you're host you're always Woods

If you join second you're Dauda, so on so forth

[fierce walrus]

1st person (host) is woods
2nd is dauda
3rd hackett
4th bishop

[woeful steppe]

I got dauda

[halcyon current]

What's wrong with Dauda, huh?

[fierce walrus]

if you’re playing with atleast 1 more person they can lock some slots to BOT ONLY before you join

[woeful steppe]

nothing I just wanted bishop 😔

[keen path]

I hate Bishop

[halcyon current]

Insanity tbh

[fierce walrus]

Do you have a friend who hosts?

[keen path]

Bishop L

[halcyon current]

Yeah Bishop the worst

[woeful steppe]

yeah

running up a 4 stack rn

[woeful steppe]

isn't he schizo though

[keen path]

no its Hackett

[woeful steppe]

I wanted to play the schizophrenic

[fierce walrus]

They can lock dauda and hackett to bot only so when you join you are bishop

[fierce walrus]

yeah thats bishop

[halcyon current]

Hackett is a sociopath, not a schizo

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[keen path]

OHH Right

[fierce walrus]

bishop is schizo

[keen path]

thats why he always fucks up my 3-man + bot runs 😦

[fierce walrus]

true, bishop and his traditional skill issue

[keen path]

Dauda 🔛 🔝

[hazy wedge]

Isn't Bishop like the worst out of all of them in terms of committing atrocious crimes

[woeful steppe]

what is Dauda known for

[hazy wedge]

Being bald

[woeful steppe]

😭 noooo

[keen path]

he worked for drug companies

[fierce walrus]

human experiments

[fierce walrus]

he is unironically the one we have least evidence for being a horrible person

[turbid horizon]

he legit like

Tried to blackmail the wrong people

hackett shot a bunch of unarmed civilians, woods is a psychopath iirc, and dauda did horrible medical experiments

[lone mortar]

omg haii dak

[lone mortar]

not after silksong incident

[fierce walrus]

I mean… id imagine he did some fucked up shit to survive the civil war

[lone mortar]

it was a disater

[fierce walrus]

i will game end you kaiser

multiple times

[lone mortar]

like x2?

[fierce walrus]

More

until youre so dead you will be killed

[lone mortar]

til silksong ?

[fierce walrus]

Till silksong 2

No

till Zoteboat

[fierce walrus]

you will suffer forever

[turbid horizon]

You cannot convince me silksong exists

[fierce walrus]

its shrodingers silksong

until team cherry fucking finds it in the middle of australia, it doesnt exist

[past mesa]

It is real

I had the dream again last night

[fierce walrus]

Did Walter White talk to Joe Biden and told him skibidi toilet is sigma?

what the fuck did i just even write

[lone mortar]

its called a mood

and yours rn is shit

[fierce walrus]

Agreed

[turbid horizon]

It isn’t tho

show me silksong :3

[fierce walrus]

Uhhhh

que the E3 footage

[turbid horizon]

it is pretty funny tbh

[fierce walrus]

from 2 years ago

or 3

[turbid horizon]

BRUH wait the footage is from E3???

That shit’s at least 5 years old then

[fierce walrus]

Oh

fuck

[turbid horizon]

I legit think the footage is pre-Remnant 1 release

lmao

[fierce walrus]

yeah the demo was on E3 im p sure

unless im tripping

@turbid horizon in 3 days it will be 2000 days since silksongs reveal

[digital mural]

[turbid horizon]

LOL

[digital mural]

Didnt E3 got cancelled like 5 years ago?

[turbid horizon]

Canceled in 2020 (covid)

Online only in 21

[past mesa]

Dak does gtfo 2 come out before silksong

[turbid horizon]

Canceled in 22 onwaed

[turbid horizon]

No because GTFO 2 probably won’t exist

:3

[fierce walrus]

Lies

[past mesa]

It might dak I can see a through line

[turbid horizon]

Altho tbf I said the same thing about Remnant

[fierce walrus]

R9 is real

[turbid horizon]

And remnant got a sequel

[digital mural]

I have seen the gameplay

Its DoW

[past mesa]

where Dow doesn’t do to well

[turbid horizon]

but GFG liked Remnant a lot tbh

i just don’t get the same energy from 10CC about Gtfo that Gunfire have for Remnant

[fierce walrus]

We must believe

[turbid horizon]

like i want to believe

But I don’t

My mind is telling me no

[fierce walrus]

”i want to believe”

someone make that poster but with GTFO

[digital mural]

No

Do it yourself

Noob

[fierce walrus]

no, i have a skill issue

[digital mural]

True

[past mesa]

GTFO is a completely unique thing

Dows idk if it will be

[turbid horizon]

Yeah

[past mesa]

Heist game v1000

[turbid horizon]

10C created like, their own genre of game

With GTFO

[past mesa]

Like GTFO is just extract shooter 1900

[turbid horizon]

and now we’re just getting another heist game

[turbid horizon]

Eh I think it’s a bit different than most

[upper ginkgo]

cant wait for the scout enemy in dow

[turbid horizon]

Especially if it’s potential had been fully explored

No other singular game can really bring the GTFO experience to the table for me

[past mesa]

It is the feeling that gtfo brings felt it recently during the gtfo% run on the r7e1 clutch

Where everything comes down to your choices and play

[turbid horizon]

yup

why I love PvE: a memo

[past mesa]

I felt it sometimes in PVP games but

Those ranked games were always so toxic

Like yeah you pop off reach a new peak but literally your covered in toxic slug the entire time

[soft crater]

Me when Outlast trials griefers

[halcyon current]

Outlast trials seems neat

Then again I just like asym horror games and that market is starved for good content

[soft crater]

It's fun at first for the experience

but once you know everything. it's meh

[halcyon current]

I just can't be fucked to play DbD anymore

And that's like

[digital mural]

outlast trials is more fun if you try to speedrun it

[halcyon current]

The horror asym

[digital mural]

after you play it blind

[soft crater]

speedrunning it is what felt boring to me

they fixed the insanity cheese at least.

[tardy ingot]

1,5x

[tardy ingot]

its 26,25 vs 20 tho o.O?

like spear is still ass
because that 26.25 only has any actual impact on chicken and hybrid melee kills

[lost flame]

Mixed up dmg with charged dmg

[past mesa]

Only to front

to back it doesn’t matter

[tardy ingot]

spear needs 1 occi and 1 front head
(or 3 head)

hammer needs 2 occi or 1 occi and 2 head (or 4 head)

[bright sentinel]

Hey guys is there any way to make bots stay still in one place? im trying to play R2C1 and when we need to get to zone 204 (its a level V alarm) the bots simple dont go to the first scan (the one that needs the whole team to complete) im playing with my gf and its like the 4th time we die bc that

[digital mural]

no there isnt a way

but if bots dont go into scans kick them and add them back

[bright sentinel]

thx bro

[woeful steppe]

I love that game

I played in the closed beta

[digital mural]

Idk how different closed beta is to the full Game

But i know Prime assets were way more stronger

[prime musk]

i have a question about enemy spawning
typically, active enemies always spawn 2 rooms away from you (though extraction room is always a valid spawnpoint for enemies). think alarms and scout waves. reactors have their own weird spawn mechanics but ignore those for now.
uplinks are different though. specifically in r2c1, while doing the uplink in 206B, we have had enemies spawn in 206D, break the door, and end the run (because we didn't expect it, playing duos, and being tired) These rooms are adjacent.
so how do uplink spawns work?

[tired aurora]

they follow the same rules but one more rule is added : they always spawn in your zone

even if said zone is 2 rooms big

[ocean spindle]

uplinks enemies spawn enemies within the same zone, and if then can with the two room rule as per usual

[tired aurora]

then they will spawn in the room next to the uplink terminal

[ocean spindle]

but they NEED to spawn in the same zone

[prime musk]

weird,but thanks

[civic wave]

(regular) uplinks will always spawn enemies in the same zone
if possible, enemies will be spawned 2 rooms away from you
if not, they can spawn 1 room away

[ocean spindle]

there's minimal exceptions to that rule but well that's how it basically always is

[prime musk]

is there any way to predict which room 1 away they'll spawn in

or is it just random

[civic wave]

as with all wave spawns, random

it might be biased towards one direction, but ultimately they can spawn on both sides

[prime musk]

theoretically, if one player where to move themselves to 206D, since both A and C are both available would this spawnblock D

[civic wave]

yep

[prime musk]

we will probably use that then

thanks

[ocean spindle]

idk r2c1 very well but i could swear all the uplinks had one way funnels

or u could force one with a door opened

maybe is some weird niche spawns i haven't had

[civic wave]

i'll DM you an image of that zone, you can't funnel/force one way spawns without spawnblocking

[ocean spindle]

thenk u

[red flax]

How do bioscan speed boosters stack? Is it added per player? Multiplicative? Is having all players with full bioscan boosters significantly better than 1 player with all bioscan speed boosters?

[tired aurora]

nah some zones can have spawns coming from two directions

[ocean spindle]

ok it makes sense

nevermind

[tired aurora]

either 202 or 203

or both

[ocean spindle]

added per player into a total % i believe

so if u get 20 and 20 it's the same as one player having 40, i believe that's how it works

feel like if it was multiplicative per players u could just break a lot of levels

cause two people with aggressive boosters would fuck shit up

[woeful steppe]

Honestly it wasn't super far off

the beta had some weird bugs, far worse balancing on the gadgets, and far fewer amps

but those were the main differences

and less content ig

closed beta just had the first kill the snitch mission iirc

when they released they added the other 2 main maps, then even later they added courthouse, and then like a month ago(?) they added a new prime asset and his whole map

[digital mural]

i see

so pretty much the same

but less content

[ocean spindle]

not choosing the snatcher or the charger is a mistake

yall r just too straight to see the truth

also the flyer would've been a good option

[silent delta]

snatcher would give excellent tentaclejobs but bad head

[ocean spindle]

nah have u seen its mouth

[silent delta]

have you seen how many tentacles?

he could give like 20 different tentaclejobs at once

[ocean spindle]

he's like a million tongues tho

in his mouth only

[silent delta]

charger has spikes growing out of his mouth he'd give awful head

unless u want a big spike up ur urethra

[ocean spindle]

u clearly haven't seen a certain copypaste about the bbcs

[minor fractal]

Well, they are particularly vulnerable to backshots, but the poll is about head, so it's not really a major selling point.

[ocean spindle]

wait actually does the copypaste say anything about that

i don't remember

[viral bobcat]

So for r2modman are things automatically updated to the current version or do you have to do that manually?

[upper ginkgo]

think it's manual

[viral bobcat]

Aight

[minor fractal]

It gives you a prompt.

[upper ginkgo]

but you just have to click one button to update everything

[tired aurora]

its manual but you have to press two buttons

[ocean spindle]

it's manual but u have to click three buttons

i added one

[viral bobcat]

[upper ginkgo]

most of the older qol mods don't get updated anymore anyway cause the game's development is done

[viral bobcat]

Kk

Does it mess anything up if the mods aren’t up to date?

[tired aurora]

It should be fine

as said above development is done so there will be no more updates so you don't have to worry about updates breaking anything and i don't think that mods can break by themselves

[viral bobcat]

Alright

[past mesa]

Depends on the mod

If it was made post r8 lauch it will 100% work

Some are still up there that shouldn’t be

[viral bobcat]

Okay

[stiff hearth]

Cscout doesnt receive head damage? even if shot at back

[tired aurora]

they do receive head damage but they dont have head multi so it doesn't matter if you headshot them same with every other charger type enemy

[ocean spindle]

chargers by all means and reasons don't have heads

they are just a torso

[stiff hearth]

visually they have

[ocean spindle]

so u just do back damage as with every other enemy

[ocean spindle]

mechanically they don't

and that's all that matters

[stiff hearth]

yeah but
idk, hel rifle did a hole in the scout charger "head", shot at back, but still screamed

[tired aurora]

that's not possible

[ocean spindle]

if u shot from the back at an angle it could've lost damage by the angle

[tired aurora]

it wasn't shot at back then

it was shot at the side

[ocean spindle]

even if it was just like 45 degrees it would still lose enough dmg i believe

[stiff hearth]

could be client issue?

[ocean spindle]

no

[stiff hearth]

my friend did the shot

[ocean spindle]

so to explain- back damage isn't a 0-100 mechanic
the damage scales with the angle, if u hit from the side it will lose damage, and the more u hit it square in the back it will do full damage

so ur friend shot it from what it seemed like the back, but it was some degrees off and it didn't die

that or heavy desync

but u would've notice it

like u would've seen an orange hitmarker and stuff

and felt desync along the entire run

[tired aurora]

iirc cscouts are facing a bit to the side by default so if you add that to your friend being a bit to the side too then that was probably the issue

[ocean spindle]

u just need to be like straight in the back for any 30 dmg weapon cause it's the exact dmg to oneshot

a little too much to the sides and u just won't kill it

that or u just have chokemod and instead just do all 4 shells in 0.6 milliseconds to assure it dies

[stiff hearth]

what if

[ocean spindle]

the marvel series yea

continue writing kdmskd

[stiff hearth]

what if the shot hits the cscout horn

it could be just angle issue

but idk it was strange

[ocean spindle]

i mean u probs dont expect it cause tbh it's a niche information kinda

it doesn't come up as much as a lot of other concepts

but it exists, and it's funky

specially funky when u do it kdmskd

[stiff hearth]

btw was r5d1 secondary

[ocean spindle]

ahhh

u should've just let the scattergun do it smh

mdmskd

[tired aurora]

also being below/above the scout doesn't help with back multi

[stiff hearth]

at least wasn't all that bad, we managed to recover health and ammo

but yeah

more caution in the next cscout

[ocean spindle]

yeah just like take ur time aiming

follow it from behind maybe even

to just be sure ur lined up

[frail heart]

Guys I’m stuck on r1a1 solo what loadout do I bring 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[ocean spindle]

smg shotgun burst sentry and bat with no boosters and 0 ammo for no specific reason other than i just thought about it

it'll go real well

[past mesa]

Spear the. You should think about bringing foam

Sentries aren’t very good for these types of levels

[frail heart]

Okay I’m also going to bring short rifle because it has the best wave clear and ammo efficiency and assault rifle because I saw markiplier use it

[past mesa]

since followsers = skill i think mark is the best player in this game ngl

[tired aurora]

don't forget about the macro for short rifle

[frail heart]

3.5 hours r6d1 is pretty good

[silent delta]

do chargers get extra damage on headshots if the weapon has a prec multi?

even if they dont have a headshot multi

[ocean spindle]

chargers are just a torso for all intents and purposes
so no i do not believe so

sniper still takes the same amounts of bullets

and it has x2 prec dmg

[silent delta]

you cant headshot a cscout with sniper?

silly

[ocean spindle]

you can only back shot it

[silent delta]

if you shoot them in the back of the head do you get back multi

[ocean spindle]

yes

again they are a torso so back still counts

[silent delta]

they should just remove the heads altogether and make them be walking torsos

they can see and lick without eyes and heads so who cares

[ocean spindle]

me

i care

:O

[silent delta]

lmao

i do too

the charger model is so fucked up i love it

[frail heart]

They don’t really have heads

It kinda just feels like a blob that is one with the torso

[silent delta]

yeah a bit

but their faces are pretty detailed

if u havent already take a good look with pdw, they are mega fucked up

[marble ore]

If I brought boosters into an expedition, and click the "Exit Expedition" button, will i loose the boosters I brought in?

[fierce walrus]

Yes you will

boosters are considered spent after about 30 seconds from dropping in

[marble ore]

Gotcha

[soft crater]

[grave kite]

Any tips for clearing R2E1? Stuck on this one longer than R2D2 lol

Always end up getting wiped after the error alarm door while carrying the neonate, turbine and cell 🥲

[civic wave]

It depends which part specifically you're having trouble with

[tardy ingot]

^

[prime musk]

you can try not carrying cell and instead making a stop at the terminal to ping the cell in zone 602
moving fast is key so having two players available for shooting (probably biotracker and mine deployer to mine doors behind you) could help
you should be able to get through the first room in 602 before first wave reaches you, and can then mine that door
if possible try to save a set of fog repellers from the starting zone for the surge alarm in 602 too

[tardy ingot]

if you wipe due to error before the first surge, then your 4th person (bio) who doesnt carry anything needs to step up with handling the small error

If its the surge or after it depends on what you struggle with (but after that surge you also should ditch the turbine)

Searching first error zone cell honestly isnt worth it

Big zone with big rooms. The time spend getting it can just be spent on moving cell

[prime musk]

just memorise the spawnpoints there are like 5 or something, and at least 2 are on route to alarm door anyways

just seeing the ping even from like 3 rooms away should be enough to know exact location

[wheat path]

how do you manage to not get enemies to spawn in front of you in r2e1 error alarm, wiped like twice cause they spawn ahead and break all doors before we even get to them(at the last surge)

[tardy ingot]

You cant influence whether they spawn ahead or not (well unless you reach the last 2 rooms) but you can play around it

Wait for a wave spawns while 3 rooms away from the room which doors you want to safe

[grave kite]

Thanks for the tips! I don't think think we made it to the surge door yet after the error alarm. It's usually error alarm -> clean wave + the room -> move onto the next room and then get wiped

[tardy ingot]

and then you get an early cell
And slow down to ping

carrying that cell is simple and since the error isnt even remotely ramped a single person can deal with it and mild rooms. And if a room is packed you can just drop items

[tardy ingot]

Is the bio person not shooting?
(and the people carrying stuff?)

the error will become a lot harder down the line

So you rly want to be able to deal with rooms fast and safely. If overwhelmed on a room pull dropping items is always fine

[grave kite]

I think he was also low on ammo, so tried to melee as much as possible. End up whole team having to drop their items and fight, then pick up again.

[prime musk]

i agree carrying cell is better but if they're dying due to lack of shooting power i feel like that's the problem to solve
(just path through first 2 cell spawns or so)

[prime musk]

go into 601 to full ammo med tool etc and bring big packs, bio carries ammo

[grave kite]

Is it standard strategy to stall the waves at the ladder, and then rush into the foggy neonate room to immediately start the class IV alarm?

[tardy ingot]

no

ladderfoam generally is very cheesy

[grave kite]

We didn't pull it off successfully, but someone who played with us tried to do it. Seems like a decent tactic to save ammo

[tardy ingot]

and the rushing part basically depends on it

[tardy ingot]

The ladderfoam or the rushing o.O?

[grave kite]

Both worked out, its just we were low on ammo to fight the wave haha

One of us triggered scout 3 times in the beginning lol

[tardy ingot]

Ladderfoam and somehow still low on ammo

wat

[soft crater]

Hm...

[tardy ingot]

id generally recommend not using ladderfoam

tho if r2e1 at this point is too tough, skipping it until you get more experienced is advised

[grave kite]

R2D2 took us like a a day to clear. R2E1 so far took us 1.5 days. Let's see how long we can try until someone from my trio rage quits 🤣

[tardy ingot]

R2E1 is massively massively harder than r2d2

Especially if you dont abuse cheese/exploity strats

like, 4-6th hardest vs ~25th

most people just skip so the morale stays good

iirc in og r2 it had a 0,9% completion rate

[soft crater]

R2E1 isn't the hardest level. But it does have the lowest clear rate.

[tardy ingot]

had

[soft crater]

Which is it now?

[tardy ingot]

alt r2e1 might still have due to being generally the first e tier people try (and get stuck on)

R4E1, R5E1 and R8E2 are also more replayed by vets

[soft crater]

Speaking of E tiers. The other day Eva. I had a guy asking if R4E1 was supposed to be "hard"

[grave kite]

Oh I agree haha, definitely feels much harder than R2D2. Not having 3 turrets to cover your ass makes fighting waves that much harder.

[soft crater]

Note: we only made it to the second alarm door

[tardy ingot]

„Whens the hard part“ clip goes hard

[tardy ingot]

Eh you can play 3 turrets

its honestly pretty save to do so

[soft crater]

I'm ngl. That run was scuffed. I was basically soloing first tank.

[tardy ingot]

I love tank

[soft crater]

[tardy ingot]

especially when it runs past me

[grave kite]

Wait what? Really? We've been doing it with the usual 1 of each.

[soft crater]

I should just remember to not pub e tiers.

[grave kite]

Turret barely gets used

[tardy ingot]

i mean

you dont use anything on first surge

Blood door is there so mines help. But also arent mandatory

on 2nd surge nothing rly does much either

[soft crater]

Achyually Scaler said to use ~~ shotgun sentries ~~

[tardy ingot]

then on 3rd you place 2 sentries
(I repeat, foaming the ladder = cheese)

[soft crater]

don't actually use it

[tardy ingot]

thats 1. ages ago and 2. scaler trollin

but even if scaler redid it. Hel auto just does shotgun sentrys job better

[soft crater]

I die a little inside when I hear someone trying to get the group to use Scaler strats

[tardy ingot]

@grave kite so idk wherr you are using foam and mines so much

[halcyon current]

Fwiw to you going in order and pubbing missions R2E1 took me like 4 days to do @grave kite

I don't even remember bringing mines on my R2E1 winning run

It was like

Burst, Hel, Bio, Foam iirc

[grave kite]

Foams for ladders. Mines mostly to pull rooms with shadow giants, and of course blood doors and surge alarms.

My trio basically just found a 4th random on LFG and followed their strats haha

[soft crater]

Rip

[tardy ingot]

Did you ladderfoam

[soft crater]

Pub strats

[halcyon current]

Iirc yes

[tardy ingot]

1. urgh
2. can be fine
3. good for blood doors. But funnily enough mines arent rly that great for surge alarms

[halcyon current]

Ladder foam with 2 turrets at the bottom for that one bit

[tardy ingot]

Fuckin pubs using ladderfoam

and then not even correctly

[grave kite]

4 days? Jesus lol, guess I'm only 25% there

[halcyon current]

Tbf it wasn't my idea

Some dude just did it and I was like "more power to you man idc"

[tiny wyvern]

I remember having seen a guy take a month

[soft crater]

[tiny wyvern]

For pub clear r2e1

[tardy ingot]

????

[halcyon current]

LMAO

[soft crater]

I should've rephrased the answers

[tardy ingot]

With/without?

YES/NO

[soft crater]

My b

[tiny wyvern]

I think he announced it the day he did it on discord

[grave kite]

Mining the terminal room door for surge alarm seemed to help a good bit if we got good enemy spawns.

[tardy ingot]

Using ladderfoam on r2e1 basically invalidates 80% of the level

[halcyon current]

If it works it works /shrug

[tiny wyvern]

If you do it well

If you don't your teammates have nice things to say every time

[tardy ingot]

The mine itself only rly helps if you get rly bad scan there and full spawns there

Doing that first surge without any tools is generally the best way. Its slightly harder but still very very free

[halcyon current]

I gotta say as a semi religious mine deployer player you dint always want to bring mines

[soft crater]

Was just curious since the devs at one point said it was a mistake.

[halcyon current]

And R2E1 is one of those levels where mines don't really help imo

[grave kite]

Yeah we definitely aren't good enough for that. 🤣 Tried to do the first alarm raw but always get clapped

[tardy ingot]

Mines are fine on it

But like foam (unless you are use ladderfoam) its rly situational and not necessary

[tardy ingot]

what guns are you bringing?

cuz a single hel shotty/combat shotty player holds most of the wave while on scan

Then you run away (up or down) from the enemies

In general my opinion is that if you use ladderfoam on r2e1 it isnt rly a real win of an E tier mission

its like spiff on r8c1pe

[grave kite]

Mostly carbine / PDWs for main. And special we’d have two Arbalist V, one shotty and the other one depends on the random.

[tardy ingot]

2 arbalist 💀
Dont let ray hear

[halcyon current]

In all fairness Eva, they don't ask how, they ask how many

[tardy ingot]

Hm?

[halcyon current]

In context to wins

It's a quote about hockey wins specifically but

[tardy ingot]

ah

[grave kite]

It's not a good idea? 🤣 The gun felt good against waves of smalls

[digital mural]

hey Golden

[tardy ingot]

well most people here who have multiple clears have done it without

[digital mural]

havent seen you in a while

[tardy ingot]

its among the worst wave clear options (of the wave clear options)

[tiny wyvern]

I'm still on a trip

[tardy ingot]

But hey

[digital mural]

that makes sense

[tardy ingot]

At least its not short rifle or sniper

[grave kite]

Then no wonder we keep getting slapped haha

[halcyon current]

God now I'm really trying to remember if I ladderfoamed on the winning run out not

[tiny wyvern]

So I'm doing everything through phone keyboard

Very fun

[tardy ingot]

Just redo it

Bam

[halcyon current]

Literally all I remember about that run was it was the first time I really used combat shotgun

And boy howdy did Combat Shotty help

[tardy ingot]

Hel shotty/combat shotty loadout solo holding most of the surge

[tiny wyvern]

I just remember forgetting the last cell spot

[grave kite]

Would helgun be a good bring?

[tardy ingot]

if your team still wipes you either suck or your 3 teammates cant cover at all

[tiny wyvern]

Depends

[tardy ingot]

i personally dont enjoy hel gun/rifle for the surges on r2e1

[tiny wyvern]

I thought it could work at least helgun

[tardy ingot]

you might get pen
But aim goes out of the window

[halcyon current]

Semi disagree off the logic that it's easier to hit a head when there's 30 of em all together lmao

You might not hit the specific one you wanted but you'll hit one

[tardy ingot]

when theres 3 you also are more likely to hit a body

but tbh

Hel and combat shotty

Clear

[halcyon current]

Honestly yeah for how most of r2e1 plays hel shotgun+combat shotgun on the bio player would probably be great

[tardy ingot]

not on bio

bio pings

Battle cruiser loadout shoots

[halcyon current]

I remember bio being the person who didn't carry anything so they could shoot during that segment

[tardy ingot]

during error youd rather have something to quickly deal with stuff

[halcyon current]

Or at least, being told that's how it should go

[tardy ingot]

can just bring knife, high cal and go ham on smalls/giants and scouts

[halcyon current]

Love the HCP

[tardy ingot]

Great beginner gun (pretty fine overall)

[halcyon current]

It just works

I enjoy it on levels where I feel like I'm not provided a lot to shoot at with the burst cannon

So a lot of A/B tiers

[digital mural]

Eva is lying

[soft crater]

What other bad loadouts are there aside from Eva's Slug/sniper/shotgunsentry/Spear

[halcyon current]

Burst Pistol/Short Rifle/Spear/Shotgun Sentry

[soft crater]

So I've got Jake and Eva noted for now.

I'd ask Raya to confirm if they say AR/Arby/Shotgun sentry / Spear is the worst or not

[halcyon current]

i feel like shotty sentry and spear are gonna be consistently picked for this

[soft crater]

Likely

Just goes to show how bad the 2 are loadout wise.

Otherwise strats/teamcomp

[halcyon current]

You can make arguments for the other melee weapons

The other sentries at least have niche value

[ocean spindle]

i still think slug shottie is not as bad as AR simply cause it does some dmg

[soft crater]

I'm only basing Ray's off a R6D2 run Eva and I joined em on

Using bad loadouts

Though my loadout arguably wasn't bad

[halcyon current]

The biggest problem I have with AR is that Pistol just feels better in basically every common situation

I don't personally think it's bad

Just mediocre

[soft crater]

Burst pistol / PR / Shotgun sentry / Spear

[tardy ingot]

that is rays "worst" loadout yes

bio technically becomes worst if you stack it

[soft crater]

I want to send out a poll of ppls "worst" loadout eventually

[tardy ingot]

but shotgun sentry is the worst addition to take if your team can adapt to you

[civic wave]

Mine would probably be burst pistol, don't know what secondary, then shotgun sentry spear

[tardy ingot]

you can?
for what o.O

[tardy ingot]

slug is better than AR

but its incredibly bad with sniper as a combo

[ocean spindle]

that's true

right i just combined 2 and 2 teehee

[soft crater]

I'll eventually shoot out a poll

[halcyon current]

That they're usable and good unlike spear

[soft crater]

Probably ask Hange and em in my server

[halcyon current]

I'm saying you can't really argue spear is a good melee so people will always pick it as the bad option

Whereas the other melees all have arguments towards their uses

[tardy ingot]

oh it just looked weird with the sentry comment

[soft crater]

Spear imo teaches ppl more bad habits compared to others next to being slowed

[tardy ingot]

theres rly just 1 awful melee and tool

hel auto at least as conditional power and niche

[halcyon current]

Agreed, overall

Sniper is bad without Bio iirc?

[soft crater]

had someone kept messing up melees because they got so used to spears range

[halcyon current]

But with Bio is good?

I almost never see people bring Sniper Sentry

[halcyon current]

I love watching someone swap from spear to hammer and they'll swing at a sleeper and miss by a foot and a half

[tardy ingot]

nah its just niche

[halcyon current]

That shit makes me chuckle everytime infallibly

[tardy ingot]

yep
its why im rly against people recommending it for beginners

it just teaches them bad things and then you get people stuck on it

[halcyon current]

Dude I always see beginners with spears too, they're attracted to it for some reason

[soft crater]

Maybe if it was prior to the last change sniper sentry had. But currently it's kinda fine without bio

Last change iirc adjusted the lock on timing.

Next to ammo change.

[halcyon current]

I have seem some people play well with spear but I assume that's because they're already a very competent player and are using spear for the fun factor

[soft crater]

Eva had to control themselves from not black hopping with spear iirc in our r6d2 run

[halcyon current]

Black hopping?

[soft crater]

Bunny hopping essentially

Keep momentum

[tardy ingot]

beginners legit focus on the worst loadouts
and they CHANGE when stuff shifts

[soft crater]

" we need sniper for scouts"

[halcyon current]

They do and it's insane to me

[soft crater]

melees scouts

[tardy ingot]

during og r5 burst sentry was rly not good

beginners spammed it

og r6 makes it top dog

[halcyon current]

The amount of new players I've played with who've gone on to go "damn I should try Hel Shotgun/Burst Cannon"

[tardy ingot]

they suddenly all pick hel auto

[halcyon current]

And it's like yes

Yes you fucking should lmao

[soft crater]

Forgot who said burst sentry basically carried ppl through

[tardy ingot]

spear has been their favourite pick ever
they now rly love shotgun and hel auto sentry

they also really like bullpup, AR, slug shotgun and short rifle, sniper and pre buff Precision rifle

[tardy ingot]

burst sentry does carry people through combat so hard (goat says this a lot)

like legit 2 burst sentries solo hold lots of alarms

[halcyon current]

Thats a common opinion iirc

[soft crater]

Maybe. Not from what I've seen tho.

[halcyon current]

Hell, even 1 of em will solo hold most R1 waves iirc

[soft crater]

I just recall there was one person who said it

[tardy ingot]

not solo hold no

a burst will always help lots on non big/charger/nightmare waves tho

[prime musk]

the bad weapons make sense to a beginner but the good ones don't
sniper is simple, burst cannon isn't
a spear naturally seems like the better choice
automatic weapon must mean high dps is also not something people don't understand intuitively

(not to mention the good ones need practice to be good)

[halcyon current]

Alright but explain to me why they always pick AR over Pistol

Is it literally just cause AR is a bigger gun?

[prime musk]

rifle -> big gun -> must be better than smol gun

yes, yes it is

[halcyon current]

LMAO

[prime musk]

as a recent™️ beginner this is how it worked in my group

(im 400 hours in now)

[halcyon current]

I think the first weapons I gravitated to were DTR and HCP

I just generally prefer non auto fire weapons across all games tho

[tardy ingot]

1. sniper yes. The weapons high pick rate (which is pretty much confirmed to be the reason for its nerf) comes from sniper being the most well known archetype in shooters. Its simple and clear cut

2. kinda. But the thing is they argue its better if confronted over it

3. Automatics arent picked for "higher dps" but "muh many bullets" most of the time. (same for mgs)
   The funny thing is that they then prefer the worst full autos (in bullpup and AR) which is cuz those handle "cleanly" and feel nice to shoot (even if they do jackshit)

4. I disagree. Lots of good weapons are good of the get go if you are capable of hitting any shots. High caliber pistol, pistol, rifle all dont need insane aim but are good beginner and general choices
   The aboslute top guns might (scatter, hel gun etc) but they also are only a part of it

And well, theres still them picking the worst tools lol

[civic wave]

Burst sentry fucking sucks and this is me malding hard about 3-4 shooters getting past it in r1a1 solo speeds twice last might

[halcyon current]

Annihilated tbh

Absolutely destroyed

Maybe you should love it more

[tardy ingot]

its actually insane how often the "many bullets" = more ammo to kill comes up for them

[halcyon current]

Tell it it's a good Sentry when you put it down or something

[silent delta]

auto sentry is clearly the best sentry

600 bullets! itll never run out!

[halcyon current]

Runs out in 1 wave

What a perfect tool

[tardy ingot]

its rly a "use 1, maybe 2 times" sentry

[silent delta]

big number=good

[tardy ingot]

@halcyon current if you werent still way before R8 id recommend watching the R8C1 run we run 3 hel auto sentries

[halcyon current]

Tbh dude you're also good at this game

[tardy ingot]

no more like

its THE strat

its not for funsies

[halcyon current]

I'll be there SoonTM

[silent delta]

that video was chaos

[tardy ingot]

we aggro on average about 5+ scouts

[halcyon current]

I think after R4 I'll stop going in order

[tardy ingot]

in the span of 30 seconds

and then 2-3 more

[halcyon current]

Right where the fun begins tbh

I still gotta manage to finish R4D1 with pubs

[tardy ingot]

invite me

[halcyon current]

That 5 scout room is a pub killer I'm ngl

[tardy ingot]

[halcyon current]

When's good for you?

[tardy ingot]

[halcyon current]

I was gonna make breakfast, play some Elden Ring, and get on if you want to play it

GTFO that is

[tardy ingot]

im technically free the next 6 hours (thats when i play with scaler n co) and will probably start pubbin in 4 at the latest

[halcyon current]

Alright, I'll be like "awake" in probably an hour

I don't like playing GTFO before my coffee intake

This is one of the rare few games I feel like I gotta be properly alert to play lmao

[tardy ingot]

me half asleep lying on my desk with my feet up

[halcyon current]

Tbf ill probably be at that point in

Another 100-150 hours?

[prime musk]

about 2
sniper is better than given credit for
it sucks against literally anything that isn't giants/hybrids but it's very very rare the sniper kill rate on those is too low to keep up (assuming you don't miss) so it does it's job well enough. it only lacks in versatility really
when duoing we took sniper for r2d2 where we could not make it work with either burst cannon or hel rifle (likely a skill issue), but we took burst cannon + hel rifle on r5b1 pe duo which worked well enough
tldr sniper is good at what it does and methinks it can be better than burst cannon and sucks inn all other scenarios. it's weakness is its limitations and aim requirement to actually be good

[halcyon current]

But for now it gives me anxiety if I feel like I'm not gonna preform immaculately

I'm sorry did I just read sniper can be better then BC

[prime musk]

given my skill issue yes

[halcyon current]

Hold on I gotta actually read all these words now