gtfo-related-questions

[muted creek]

all good now

tq frens

jezuz

[narrow niche]

:D

[muted creek]

FPS is now 240

[digital mural]

No, I WILL buy You

[muted creek]

[narrow niche]

ok~

[narrow niche]

:D

[digital mural]

[tiny wyvern]

Don't have it that high

@muted creek Cap it to something like 140
Else your frame drops are going to be like hell

[muted creek]

on?

[tiny wyvern]

Can your monitor even refresh that fast?

[muted creek]

target framerate??

144hz

[digital mural]

cap it to 140 then

lol

[muted creek]

aight

me no idea

[tiny wyvern]

Yea target framerate set to 140

Instead of INFINITE

[narrow niche]

infinite...

[tiny wyvern]

or just turn on vsync

[muted creek]

its set like this~

[tiny wyvern]

Reminds me of that one source engine fact

[muted creek]

i off vsync now

so far i havent seen any screen tearing

thats why vsync off

[tiny wyvern]

Ok

Everything should be fine then

[digital mural]

is Golden our new tech support guy?

:3

[tiny wyvern]

Oh btw for source games you have to limit your frames under 1000
Or else the physics break

Just a really weird side note

🙂

[muted creek]

source games??

[tiny wyvern]

It's just a funny thing

[muted creek]

gimme example

about source games or somesort

[tiny wyvern]

Portal speedrun needs to be under 1000

That's all I know

From a gdq speedrun

🙂

[digital mural]

imagine getting 1000 FPS

[halcyon current]

Ik original dark souls 1 starts breaking at 60 fps and over 120 it's just kinda "yeah good luck man"

[hardy grotto]

Don’t need to imagine

[tiny wyvern]

More like no one doing the job for so long I started pinging anyone and everyone that might know something
And slowly learnt it

[digital mural]

most of old games break after 60 fps

some even after 30

[civic wave]

The menus don't count

[halcyon current]

Tell that to God's Own Creation DOOM

[hardy grotto]

Minecraft counts

[civic wave]

Shit

[digital mural]

Doom is just built different

[tiny wyvern]

wut why do you need 1000 fps for in minecraft

door pvp?

[hardy grotto]

yeah

[muted creek]

my fps now cap at 140

all good right?

[civic wave]

I mean tbf it doesn't take much in minecraft

[tiny wyvern]

Yep

[digital mural]

yeah now go and enjoy

[tiny wyvern]

Or suffer

[halcyon current]

I thought depending on version Minecraft just ran like absolute garbage

[tiny wyvern]

It doesn't matter

[digital mural]

🙏

the hero we dont deserve

[tiny wyvern]

If you have any tech issue feel free to drop by again

[halcyon current]

And getting high fps was just a flex

Idk tho cause I've never really played it outside co op on Xbox with my brother

[tiny wyvern]

I mean sleepo deserves it more than me
I just ping him every time it isn't something normal

[civic wave]

Anyone remember the world's best kohi player loolitsalex?

[tiny wyvern]

And hirunukoo

[civic wave]

Just me?

[tiny wyvern]

And sometimes even tru

And that one time I pinged andocas

[digital mural]

who?

[civic wave]

I literally just said who he is

[narrow niche]

LMAO

[neon gust]

Wtf was that

[muted creek]

frens!

how to locate ammo or medpack using terminals?

when i type ping ammo_kit it says different one

[digital mural]

its ping ammo_xxx

not ammo

but like

you know just LIST the zone

or LIST AMMO then ping it

[muted creek]

XXX is?

[digital mural]

the numbers

[soft crater]

Ammopack_xxx
Tool_refill_xxx
Medipack_xxx

[digital mural]

PING AMMOPACK_XXX

[muted creek]

numbers like?

i dont get the xxx thingy numbers

is this item code or something

[tiny wyvern]

List the items once

You'll see what the xxx are

[digital mural]

list the zones or items

then it will say something like

[muted creek]

how to list

[digital mural]

AMMOPACK_123

[digital mural]

LIST ZONE_XX

or LIST AMMO

you can use LIST to list especific things

[soft crater]

Resources will typically have 3 numbers attached to them
For example
PING AMMOPACK_348 PING TOOL_REFILL_540 PING MEDIPACK_829

We're using xxx because the numbers can be any

[gray blaze]

Yes, it's an item code. Each specific ammo pack or pack of any other resource has a code attached to it

[soft crater]

It's also to differiate multiple separate Packs

Yes

Sadly you cannot ping/list items such as fog repellers/glowsticks/lockmelter/mines/cfoam nades

[hidden ridge]

Thanks but hirnu knows a lot more than I do

[gray blaze]

You want to see what resources are in let's say zone 15. You type in LIST RES ZONE_15
It gives you something like medipack_123, ammopack_321, tool_refill_890
Then if you want to ping it you type PING MEDIPACK_123 to ping that specific medipack located in specific locker in zone 15. To ping items in zone 15 you need to use a terminal located in zone 15.

[muted creek]

saw it

now

TQfrens

[tiny wyvern]

I mean you know enough that I don't always have to ping him
And I'm sure you know much more than i do

If it's just a second opinion I could always count on you

[muted creek]

btw about the pulse thingy

[narrow niche]

it was amazing wdym

[narrow niche]

?

[ocean spindle]

yes it's ur stamina

outside of combat it lingers about 60-80
on combat it lingers from 70 to 85 or so i believe

and then if u run or jump for too long, when it starts reaching about 120 130 u start to slow down

u won't lose hp or die if it goes above 180, but it will slow u down so much u might as well start walking for a second

now i get fact-checked

[soft crater]

• 60~ relaxed (lowest in calm state)
• 140~ pulse cap (highest in calm state)
• 80~ alert pulse (lowest in alerted state)
• 160~ Hp changes color and has an audio cue. (Warning low stamina)
• 180~ no stamina left and incredibly slow (highest in alerted state)

Rough numbers

This isn't the exact numbers since your pulse number will typically be a few above or below what your actual pulse is.

[narrow niche]

isnt it 108 for highest calm?

60% stamina

140 seems

too high

its ~70 for lowest alert afaik

[soft crater]

Again I gave rough numbers

[narrow niche]

110 isnt close to 140

:3

sorry

it is a significant difference though

[soft crater]

You are typically doing a Lil too much

If you're hitting max Stam in calm state

[tardy ingot]

max stam in calm is around 110

which is easy to reach and basically no slow down

140 is a massive slow down point

[narrow niche]

^

[narrow niche]

also its around 170 for 10% stamina warning i think

[soft crater]

168

[sinful hinge]

does anyone have any recommendations as of to what tools to give to a full team of bots on the R3A3 reactor mission?

[frail heart]

you can hit 180 stam

[frail heart]

3 sentries

[narrow niche]

thats just 0% stam

[soft crater]

That one ngl I feel like I haven't hit in awhile.

[narrow niche]

hm

[frail heart]

SUGON

[narrow niche]

deez

[soft crater]

Albeit. I haven't been playing the harder levels that need me to be running far in calm state.

[narrow niche]

i dont usually stare at bpm monitor so idk

[soft crater]

Next to. I already habitually slide sprint constantly

[tardy ingot]

1 dash a jump and BOOM
You basicall there

[narrow niche]

dash moment

dash is what

like 25% stamina?

[sinful hinge]

would it be better for me to carry one of the sentry guns and a bot to carry a biotracker? or just bring 4 sentry guns?

[narrow niche]

3 sentry

bot bio

4 sentries is

excessive

[civic wave]

4 sentries isn't all that, because then you need the tool refill and everything to fill it up for it to be any better than 3 sentries

[narrow niche]

^

[sinful hinge]

and burst sentry is the best to use usually right?

[frail heart]

yea

[narrow niche]

yes

sniper works some levels but

[frail heart]

burst sentry is dookie on e2

[sinful hinge]

thank you guys very much

[narrow niche]

i mean

[hidden ridge]

When I did that with bots I had 2 sniper sentries 1 burst 1 bot on bio

Just be careful, when you open the first/second sec door for code, you can get enemies to spawn behind

Luckly bio bot will just ping them when he can

[sinful hinge]

👌

[tardy ingot]

It depends on where you hold

If you hold in bridge room they will only spawn behind once you get 4th code

if you rly wanna play funny and have time on codes

Then hold 1 room away from spawn (where the small door is) once you got 4th code

You will only get front spawns from there

[hidden ridge]

you sure?

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[hidden ridge]

I remember whiping because last wave of giants spawned behind and everyone got tongued

[tardy ingot]

reactor behaviour goes brr

[hidden ridge]

Wait you mean B or C of the first zone?

[tardy ingot]

I dont think people hold 1 room away from reactor until all enemies are dead commonly

B

[hidden ridge]

ah ok

[tardy ingot]

if you hold in C you get back spawns from 4th onwards

if you hold reactor you get back spawns from 2nd

[hidden ridge]

Never held there

only held either C or Bridge

[civic furnace]

What bug causes shadow giants to spawn in R4E1 wave 4

[tardy ingot]

B hold is actually quite funny

not even that hard

Good lines

just be careful of hybrids

[civic wave]

No bug just very rare chance for giant spawn in waves

afaik

[frail heart]

yeah you can get normal giants as well

[civic furnace]

Ah okay thought it was just a bug cause of how rare it is thanks team

[civic furnace]

That never happened yet

[civic wave]

Always funny when your ass gets jumped by a reactor giant in duo

[hidden ridge]

Does this work in R2D2?

If I hold in B I never get back spawns?

I remember holding the first waves there once but never all of them

[soft crater]

Ngl I still do Dodge jumps. Though not as frequently as I used to

[sinful hinge]

so if I hold in the room with the bridge all the enemies are going to spawn near the point of entrance for the mission? Except for the fourth wave.

[tardy ingot]

no

its the amount of rooms you are away from reactor (furthest player) + 2 (typical spawn rule) but applied to all directions from reactor

in B of R2D2 you are 2 rooms away
So spawn 4 rooms away in all directions (they should spawn after you open 5th code basicaly

[tardy ingot]

except for 5th wave and 6th wave

[fading root]

Does anyone think that I'm allowed to invite people here to my server which is set up to play ALT rundowns? I'm not sure if that violates the rules, or is just not what this specific server is for

[digital mural]

Huh

You can play anything here

[minor fractal]

The "old rundowns" rule refers to backpatching.

[digital mural]

Except modded rundowns or content that isnt in the game

[minor fractal]

Alt rundowns are current content, and don't involve backpatching.

[fading root]

OOOOOHHHHH

[narrow niche]

lmao

[digital mural]

💀

[fading root]

welp I just spent an hour devving a server for naught

[digital mural]

LOL

[fading root]

misunderstandings end my life

[digital mural]

Thats why asking is important

[soft crater]

Moment when there's probably at least 1 modded vc whenever I check

[narrow niche]

absoltue moment

[digital mural]

Mods don't care
Why should we

[narrow niche]

hmmmm

i think all the mods are gone

the great mod purge

[digital mural]

The same ones are always online but dont do anything

[ashen frigate]

We are just slumbering

[narrow niche]

dont disprove me

shush

[digital mural]

Except the same 2

[narrow niche]

go back

[narrow niche]

lurking >:C

[digital mural]

Who are you

New mod

[fading root]

well then I'll be asking around for help with that one reactor level at some point

[digital mural]

R1C1?

[fading root]

think so, yea?

i havent played the game in months aside from last night, where i almost beat (R7A1? Maybe?) with bots

me and my now-ex-fiancee almost beat the reactor with two bots assisting

but almost

not quite

[digital mural]

Sad

[fading root]

why?

just because we didnt win doesnt mean I'm not excited to try again :))

with new players, too!

[narrow niche]

wiping smh

[fading root]

huh?

[fading root]

wiping what? 🤔

[narrow niche]

...

[fading root]

sorry I'm pretty slow lately 😭

[livid stone]

Ass

[narrow niche]

bravo behavior

[fading root]

Real?

[ashen frigate]

wiping = all players being down at the same time, resulting in a failed expedition

[past mesa]

R1c1 is a wall for a bunch of players

[jagged shore]

from the team being "wiped" out

[past mesa]

Don’t worry about it to much

[livid stone]

I love to wipe on r8e1

[narrow niche]

ofc bravo would wipe on that level

[narrow niche]

^

once you make it to r2 later levels youll prolly get stuck too

[fading root]

I'll just try and play with some people that know how to get through it. My strategy has been shelling burst and shelling high caliber pistols, plus sniper turrets

[livid stone]

Well its fun to do so on that level

Unlike most other levels

[digital mural]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[fading root]

Thanks! I'll try and keep all that in mind when I go back

:}

[cosmic lion]

R1C1 is hurting my soul

[craggy pier]

consider the following: just shoot the enemies

[cosmic lion]

Autosentry is in the game
this to me implies it's dogshit but is still incredibly funny

and if you have three bots God go with you
unfortunately none of my friends like this game and I'm too socially anxious to just get up and speak to randoms

[halcyon current]

Remind me which level R1C1 is someone?

[cosmic lion]

so I've just been suffering solo

R1c1 is the first reactoe level

[halcyon current]

Gotcha gotcha gotcha

[tardy ingot]

you could join lfg as a mute player

[halcyon current]

Ty

[craggy pier]

ur not gonna have fun with bots

[cosmic lion]

Where my response was "oh god what the fuck why are there 700 of them"

[halcyon current]

Yeah bots are uh, trying at best most of the time ngl

[cosmic lion]

Bots

they

[tardy ingot]

bots are not that bad

but tey are stupid obviously

[cosmic lion]

they try really, really hard.

and I can't blame them for that.

[halcyon current]

They're really funny for stealth abuse

[digital mural]

join an LFG :3

muted

[cosmic lion]

but also oh my god I fired one magazine please stop trying to reload my ammo there's a fucking giant actively smacking you

[cosmic lion]

I probably will if

I don't beat it tonight

[halcyon current]

And yeah, plenty of LFG players are muted

[cosmic lion]

I ger off work in 3.5 hours

And I'm off the next three days

12 monsters and 60 dr pepper

either I'll get through or take your guys' advice

[cosmic lion]

cute react btw

[digital mural]

Rip your heart

But dr pepper is based

[cosmic lion]

I'm an addict

[digital mural]

I drsnk too much dr pepper and now it tastes like water

[cosmic lion]

[cosmic lion]

I'm so sorry for your loss

[halcyon current]

Tbh I like Bangs a lot. The miami cola fucks.

[cosmic lion]

oh speaking of

[halcyon current]

Reminds me of a monster flavor you simply can't get anymore

[cosmic lion]

I came in here to ask

what kinda guns should I be fuckin' 'round with on r1c1

I have to imagine you wsnt higher mags

[digital mural]

Everything except snipe, slug and short rifle and burst pistol

[halcyon current]

I used basically the same loadout for the first 4 rundowns, DTR and HCP, dunno if it's actually reccomended.

[cosmic lion]

why no snipers??

[craggy pier]

something with good range cos u have long sightlines

[halcyon current]

I swapped off to combat shotty for a couple R2E1 attempts

[craggy pier]

sniper is ass just dont

[cosmic lion]

LOL?

I liked it for Giants

[halcyon current]

A lot of people remember the sniper as a way, way better gun

[cosmic lion]

Sobs

[past mesa]

what has got you down

[halcyon current]

I'd reccomend scattergun tbh

[craggy pier]

sniper is only useable on giants, take a secondary that can deal with giants and smalls

[tardy ingot]

3 bots and new player

[halcyon current]

If you want a gun that just deletes giants, Scatter does that

[cosmic lion]

the "oh haha 700 enemies rushing me" and the 3 bots being a newb

[halcyon current]

Deletes most other things too

[cosmic lion]

is,,,

pain

[past mesa]

ah

[cosmic lion]

Isn't that a shotgun?

[halcyon current]

Yes.

[past mesa]

s

[tardy ingot]

tbf its usually like 10 at once max you have to deal with

have 1-2 burst sentries, bots on burst rifle + veruta and a good combo yourself and its shootable

[halcyon current]

Jish I like your pfp, axolotls are cool

[cosmic lion]

true

I had like

I think I used

DMR?

and then fuck if I know what shit I gave bots

[halcyon current]

Love DMR tbh

[cosmic lion]

DMR + Hel Pistol

And then

Burst, Snipe, Shotgun turret + 1 bio scanner

[craggy pier]

dmr my GOAT

[cosmic lion]

DMR is super fun

I also have

utterly shit aim

[craggy pier]

thats a problem

[cosmic lion]

(I have never played an FPS before this game and Valorant)

[cosmic lion]

that it is!

[tardy ingot]

That uh
Cant happen as its 2 mains

[cosmic lion]

I'm getting better

[cosmic lion]

I mesnt Hel on a bot, apologirs

apologies* meant*

I have no clue what secondaries anyone had

[tardy ingot]

for bots just go

Burst rifle + veruta machine gun

on all of them

[cosmic lion]

I wanna say I had scatter

But

[cosmic lion]

Can I ask why

Like what's the logic for it?

[civic wave]

bots use the same firing logic for all guns, the guns said above are some of the more efficient guns for bots

[halcyon current]

^

[cosmic lion]

I seeeeee

[tardy ingot]

decent to good range
Bots shoot/kill decently fast but conserve ammo well with them

[cosmic lion]

So giving them versatile guns is basically worthless

[craggy pier]

what

[tardy ingot]

its moreso that they dont use the versatile guns like a player would.

[civic wave]

^

[tardy ingot]

sniper? They dont aim for hs giants

shotguns - range? What is that

Hel weapons - pen? Huh

[civic wave]

they don't have the logic or capabilities to play around strengths of guns like players

[halcyon current]

Oh, don't give mine deployers ever either. They get finicky with em.

Least in my experience.

[cosmic lion]

Noted

LOL

[tardy ingot]

eh mines are oook

bio/sentry >> mines >>>>>> cfoam

for bots

[halcyon current]

Agreed

[cosmic lion]

Cfoam

was really nice in a1

(r1a1)

[tardy ingot]

@cosmic lion theres lots of guides about stuff like this

Blackdragon made a guide about bots on steam afaik

[cosmic lion]

Noted and will look into it

thank you kindly!

I've got homework while I work now

[ocean spindle]

i am still of the opinion that foam is indeed not that bad for bots

u don't perma foam anyway with bots simply cause u cannot 9/10 times unless you have it and don't wanna complete scans

and as long as you see where it's standing, it's ok

[tall portal]

its probably been asked before but when it says "final edition" does that mean the game will no longer be doing expedition updates? or does that mean the primary game development side is done?

[digital mural]

no more new expeditions or content

[ocean spindle]

games completed its story so yeh it be ending

83 missions is enough to close it off ksks

[digital mural]

with an average of 300 hours

:3

[ocean spindle]

:3

not counting fails

[digital mural]

300-400 hours

• 100-200 of fails

[ocean spindle]

teehee

[tall portal]

Honestly I thought the game was like brand new when i spotted it, so i figured the constant changes of expeditions was a planned feature and such. But i imagine im getting into it a bit late than

[digital mural]

a bit late yeah

[ocean spindle]

i mean it was but it's been 5 years

[digital mural]

but the community is still strong

[tall portal]

5 years? o.o

damn lol

[ocean spindle]

yes :3
came out early access in 2019

then 1.0 in 2021

then uh final edittion in december 2023 and then some patches

long history dev cycle kdmskd

[tall portal]

still holds up though, im very happy with it even if i am running it with bellow recomended hardware XD

[digital mural]

gardens will be a pain

[ocean spindle]

alsmskdk well as long as it runs ok-ish

[digital mural]

lol

[tall portal]

running it on a 960M GEFORCE

[ocean spindle]

more for load than actual lag tho

i crashes on r1d1 but i loaded r7b1 loads of times

[digital mural]

wtf

dont you use geforce?

[ocean spindle]

before i knew about geforce

like back in 2021

[digital mural]

10fps gaming

[ocean spindle]

2022

[digital mural]

got it

[ocean spindle]

yeh

:3

and I STILL DID B1

and before the nerf

[digital mural]

carried

smh

[ocean spindle]

im so proud

:[

it was a bot run

[digital mural]

IM JOKING

[digital mural]

nvm
hackett carried

:3

[tall portal]

If i had to guess running with most the advanced settings on low, i still get a solid 18-20 fps. workable

[ocean spindle]

:c

[ocean spindle]

if u ever need u could use geforce now for like better fps
issue is it's kinda expensive

but u could just get it for a month

and grind the missions u need to grind

[digital mural]

expensive but worth it in my opinion

[ocean spindle]

with 60+ fps

[digital mural]

in the long run its better to get a decent PC anyways

[ocean spindle]

i think it's worth only for a few months yeah and then just money for new pc saving time

yeah exactly

[tall portal]

upgrading isnt really an option for me hardware wise. I run an old gamers republic laptop, which holds up okay sort

has its moments where it shows it age a little

[ocean spindle]

i used to run it on a laptop too :]

i say used to cause it- it broke but i'm working on it

but well 20 fps sounds still very much nice

workable for like 99% missions

[tall portal]

it gets a little wonky when fog gets involved but i have that set to low so it dosent cause too much chaos

environmental effects in any game are to be expected as the primary stressor of hardware

rain,fog, fire, etc

[ocean spindle]

it's funny cause there's like barely any fire in this game and it's both ok and really not ok but well KDMSKD

different contexts

[digital mural]

i only remember fire in like 1 level

[ocean spindle]

||both r8's e||

[tall portal]

still havent got past the first level yet, gonna be honest the games tough, but thats sort of what i love about it lol

[digital mural]

||yeah||

[ocean spindle]

it's okiii i'm sure u will get it soons

it's just a lot of learning soons

but i also died hella lot on like first to second level so it's a thing that happens

[digital mural]

GTFO has a learning wall
not a curve but a wall

so good luck

:3

[tall portal]

Once i at least understand the ins and outs of the mechanics and missions, i expect that will be as easy as it gets, teams seem incredibly ballanced to where everyones pretty much on the same level in terms of hardware and chracter abilities.

[digital mural]

even if you understand the mechanics
the game isnt near easy

[tall portal]

beyond that it all feels like the hard part is knowing what to do and when

[ocean spindle]

i mean the first level will be

[digital mural]

obviously smh

[tall portal]

oh i didnt mean its easy. i just meant thats the only advantage one might gain over time is knowing the ins and outs of a job

after that it feels like its about a good team and luck X3

[ocean spindle]

not really as much luck as u think :]
games surprisingly consistent for like 95% of its levels

cause spawns and resources never vary, only positioning

so only a few levels can fuck u with that rng

and only a few can fuck u significantly

[tall portal]

only "issue" i have had is theres no way of telling where security holos will pop up during alarms. which makes setting up defenses like turrets a bit wonky.

[digital mural]

eh

[tall portal]

main terminal might be on a highly deffensable bridge but the holos will be on another level entirely below it

[digital mural]

you can guess where they will go

[ocean spindle]

not only guess, you can know where they will go
and the plays usually just not having the sentries not super close to u

[tall portal]

i guess im still a bit salty cause i was almost done with the first mission when that happened XD

[digital mural]

wait

[tall portal]

set up all my turrets in a killzone on the bridge lol

[digital mural]

R1A1?

[ocean spindle]

what was ur first mission?

[tall portal]

yeah R1A1, lift the lockdown

[digital mural]

R1A1 doesnt have a bridge 🤨

[digital mural]

...

thats not R1A1

[ocean spindle]

r1a1 isn't lifting a lockdown

uhhh r5?

[digital mural]

R1A1 is gathering a HSU sample

[ocean spindle]

seems like it might've been r5 which ks funny cause that's the hardest A1

[tall portal]

it was like an inside "bridge" leading to "54?" final objective was to reach 55

[ocean spindle]

did the alarm had like 20 scans

[digital mural]

yeah thats not R1

[ocean spindle]

like 20 small quickly filled up scans?

[digital mural]

start with R1

and move your way up from there

R1 is just a big tutorial

[tall portal]

ill check to make sure i had it right, i might have goofed XD

[ocean spindle]

kdmskd

u could probs just search R5A1 in the wiki

[digital mural]

btw dont use ingame matchmaking

it sucks

the game will send you to random levels

[ocean spindle]

ohh that might've been it

that's true

[tardy ingot]

you can predict this for all scans pretty much unless its a very weird tile (so 99% of the time its simple)

the good motto is

defend the room

Not yourself

[tall portal]

I mean it "should" have been obvious to me they wouldent spawn in such a highly deffensable spot, that there would be a trick to it

[tardy ingot]

enemies need to get into your room to get to you

If you defend the room they cant get to you and thus the scans wont overlap with enemies or sentry fire

[ocean spindle]

that alarm is also just funky cause there's like 3 doors they can come through

[digital mural]

rotate sentries time

:3

[ocean spindle]

yes pretty much
again, hard A1 KDMSKD

[tall portal]

honestly the mobs pathfinding is impressive, they will skirt around the turrents lane of fire or behind cover when they can like behind crates. I was frustrated but impressed

[digital mural]

btw burst sentry is the best sentry

avoid shotgun/auto sentry

sniper sentry is good too

[tardy ingot]

Thats due to the intimidation mechanic

You look at them, they do the skittering

[ocean spindle]

the go we wee side to side they don't see me

[digital mural]

sleepers staring contest when

[ocean spindle]

i mean for the first levels it's like fine whatever they take

[digital mural]

i said it as a general advice

[tall portal]

the first time i died was on me, i tested a scout and found out lol

they are a lot tougher than they look

[digital mural]

though auto sentry can be decent in some situations

[silent delta]

F

[digital mural]

auto sentry carries R8D2

[brave otter]

the forbidden spaghetti

[tall portal]

indeed!

i thought you could creep it and stealth kill, it said no, several times lol

[silent delta]

in order to defeat the spaghet you must become the spaghet

[silent delta]

you can

[digital mural]

you can

[silent delta]

what melee do u have

[brave otter]

what melee you running

[digital mural]

charged hit to the head with hammer
spear needs a bit less

knife/bat need charged hit to the back of the head

[tall portal]

at the time i was using the bat, but have since switched to spear

[digital mural]

spear
a classic

[tardy ingot]

spear

[tall portal]

it was my first mission lol

[brave otter]

go sledge

[silent delta]

then yeah, go for charged hits to the head

[digital mural]

use hammer

spear is just in the game

[silent delta]

hey

its perfectly fine as a set of training wheels

before you switch over to one of the actually good melees

[digital mural]

true

but later on when you have to melee kill 10 sleepers
good luck

🙏

[silent delta]

nahhhh you'll never have to do that

[tardy ingot]

It gets people used to it which isnt good

thats how you get someone stuck on spear

[tall portal]

i mean killing sleepers is a game of pattern. just have to pick em off in the right order

[digital mural]

the fuck you mean never

[tall portal]

one lands too close to another and the jig is up XD

[silent delta]

i mean

i guess thats fair

[digital mural]

sometimes you will have to kill waves with melee

[silent delta]

i think the extra melee range helps you get used to killing scouts and giants

[digital mural]

due to ammo and res

[silent delta]

cuz you can do it more safely

and then you swap to sledge

[silent delta]

usually, yes

[brave otter]

spear is usually too slow

[silent delta]

occasionally the enemy density or rng says fuck u and spawns six all within hard wake up of each other

[tall portal]

my last run was on a mission i didnt know of but lots of giants. group strikes with a countdown help a lot

[digital mural]

spear has the big downside of you cant sprint while charging

which can be extremely awful

[frail heart]

It’s so bad

[silent delta]

i mean

you caaaaaan sprint

[tall portal]

these monsters sleep a LOT. im greatful for that lol

[digital mural]

thats NOT sprinting

[frail heart]

No

[digital mural]

for now :3

[silent delta]

its more of a brisk walk than a sprint

[brave otter]

wrong

[frail heart]

I’m just shuffling a bit faster

[silent delta]

but u can press the shift key

[digital mural]

walking fast is sprinting?

damn

[silent delta]

hm

[digital mural]

and its not even walking fast

[brave otter]

yea and my grandma shuffles faster

[silent delta]

do yall think if they gave spear max sprint speed it would box out sledge?

[frail heart]

No

[digital mural]

probably yeah

[tall portal]

to be fair all sprints are not equal, Usane Bolt would deffend that lol

[digital mural]

its still too slow

so

[halcyon current]

No but id probably use it more tbh

[brave otter]

i think itd compete more depending on how many sleeping giants there are

[digital mural]

if it did i would run spear 24/7

[ocean spindle]

no cause sledge still has the higher base dmg and that's more worth for smaller enemies

[tall portal]

for some a sprint might look to others like a brisk jog lol

[frail heart]

☝️

[silent delta]

spear has a much much slower sprint while charging than all the other melees, which at least for me is the primary reason i dont like it
being mobile while charging your melee is kind of a big deal
that being said, the extra melee range is helpful when you don't know how to melee giants or scouts yet, so for you its probably fine

[ocean spindle]

use it until you feel confident in stealth

[frail heart]

Honestly if you aren’t bad the range doesn’t matter

[digital mural]

being able to sprint while charging means fast stealth is easier and faster duh

[silent delta]

wait ahng on

we can let democracy decide

[frail heart]

Literal only useful for meleeing tanks or smth

[ocean spindle]

hangs themselves

[tardy ingot]

give spear actually insane melee dmg

[ocean spindle]

:3

[tardy ingot]

Make it lockout 2 sledge

[digital mural]

MODDED RUNDOWN MENTIONED

MODS BAN HIM

[ocean spindle]

i was gonna say occlusions spear

[silent delta]

dont do that its bad for your health

[ocean spindle]

:[

[digital mural]

6 vs 0

lol

[silent delta]

so what im hearing is frosty is cringe and wrong

[brave otter]

the votes ☠️

[halcyon current]

Group think lmao

[digital mural]

as a wise man said once:
"everything i dont agree with is anime"

[frail heart]

Bro you switched so quick

Pants down now

[digital mural]

im going to bend over just for you bbg

[halcyon current]

Alright here's the real question, yall prefer infinite sprint but it's a slower speed or faster sprint with a limited time in a game? I wanna know.

[frail heart]

SORRY IM TAKEN

JESUS

[digital mural]

WHO

WHO IS IT

[frail heart]

$500

[tardy ingot]

Depends on game

[silent delta]

that depends on a lot of factors

[digital mural]

fuck you

[ocean spindle]

depends on the game

[frail heart]

Sorry can’t do that either

[silent delta]

if it is limited, how limited? how fast is it?

[digital mural]

Depends on game

[halcyon current]

I'm thinking like, CoD tac sprint vs RE4R sprint

[frail heart]

GTFO faster sprint cause speedruns

[silent delta]

does the game have long, sustained combat? in that case, id prefer infinite sprint

if my stamina bar is big enough that i usually can sprint all i need to durnig combat and then regen it during downtime, then id prefer the faster speed

[ocean spindle]

for gtfo i think staminas better than if u had unlimited run but spear charging speed

[silent delta]

depends on balancing

for this game? unlimited would definitely be better

thats why they got rid of it right

[ocean spindle]

pretty much

[halcyon current]

This game used to have unlimited sprint?

When was that?

[silent delta]

i havent played either of those games

[digital mural]

yeah

[silent delta]

eons ago

[ocean spindle]

before r6

with r6 they introduced stamina

[halcyon current]

Res 4 remake is very good, I'd reccomend it

[frail heart]

If it’s slower running speed it might not even be useful lmao

[halcyon current]

I really wish I played OG rundowns GTFO

[digital mural]

you can

[silent delta]

i guess thats a fair point

[digital mural]

play them

[ocean spindle]

not like u can't anymore with the use of files

[silent delta]

was infinite sprint the same speed as sprint now?

[frail heart]

Yes

[silent delta]

hmm

[halcyon current]

So it's just modding em in, basically?

[silent delta]

then yeah i guess it would depend

how much slower

[frail heart]

It was OP

[silent delta]

if its like half speed then fuck no thats basically worthless

[tardy ingot]

circle kite
Long kite

[frail heart]

you could just long kite

And melee everything

[silent delta]

they introduced stamina to nerf kiting afaik

[frail heart]

Yes

[digital mural]

damn
so people could just be good with skill issue

[silent delta]

in that you actually have to be good at the game to do it instead of just pressing W and winning

[digital mural]

😔

[halcyon current]

Tbh with what I've seen some people accomplish that seems nessecary

[frail heart]

And people actually still complain lmao

It’s literally a skill issue

[silent delta]

i think kiting is in a perfectly healthy state

[frail heart]

And you can still go long now

[silent delta]

takes skill, can be used in a pinch to recover from a wipe, but takes a while and is usually not the optimal solution

and if you mess it up by not taking shortcuts or managing stamina properly you get punished

as you should

[frail heart]

Go long = bad

[halcyon current]

Honestly infinite sprint in this game seems insane

[silent delta]

real

real

[halcyon current]

I'd probably just melee literally everything

[frail heart]

Right @humble night @twin terrace

[digital mural]

just press W and win

easy game

smh

[silent delta]

only long kite if you're the only one still up

[silent delta]

i love walking simulator

best game

[halcyon current]

Shift+W gamers truly do be suffering

[silent delta]

we need to get tf2 pyro players into gtfo

[frail heart]

That’s me that’s me

[silent delta]

they'd never go down

[frail heart]

Except a while ago

[digital mural]

Frosty

[halcyon current]

Tbh, a good pyro is fuckin scary

[digital mural]

where are your pics

[civic furnace]

Thigh boy

:3

[frail heart]

$500

[silent delta]

tf2 is mostly fixed, if you wanted to get back into it now is the time

[frail heart]

Hallo rose

[digital mural]

:(

[civic furnace]

Free for me? :3

[silent delta]

i got 12 cents and a 10pc mcnugget

does that work

[halcyon current]

Deadass? Time to reinstall tf2 and buy a 500 dollar hat

[frail heart]

Only for you

[frail heart]

I’ll take it

[silent delta]

please dont

[civic furnace]

Hehe

[silent delta]

they did the bare minimum vote with ur wallet

[halcyon current]

Nah I wouldn't, I sold off my old inventory

[silent delta]

YIPPEE!

[frail heart]

WHERES MY BURNING FLAMES TEAM CAPTAIN RAAAHHHHH

[halcyon current]

Items don't mean shit

Unless you're a heavy

Then items get you a pocket medic

[silent delta]

i never really got into tf2 tbh

or any competitive shooters

too much stress and im bad

[frail heart]

I got like 1.3k hours or smth

[halcyon current]

I really enjoyed both TF2s tbh

[digital mural]

GTFO is a competitive shooter

[frail heart]

I like playing MvM

[silent delta]

in a sense, but its PvE

i dont play PvP shooters, i suppose i should have said

[halcyon current]

Tbf GTFO is only competitive if you want it to be

I personally don't think I'll ever be doing speedruns

[frail heart]

Speedrunning e tiers be like

[halcyon current]

Just not what I'm into GTFO for

[silent delta]

r4e1 secondary sub 5 minutes when

[tardy ingot]

playing fast is fun

speedruns are generally another step from that tho

[halcyon current]

Tbf playing fast and playing speedrun fast are different

[frail heart]

Ya

[halcyon current]

Yeah

I like playing GTFO fast and loud

[silent delta]

idk if id have fun speedrunning this game

especially with some levels

[halcyon current]

But I'll stick to Silent Hill and Dark Souls for speedruns

[silent delta]

like i saw the r1c1 speedrun, one person just doesnt play the game

[frail heart]

Don’t do that one lmao

[silent delta]

but walkstealthing is definitely more fun than crouch stelathing

[halcyon current]

I imagine speedrunning in this is reliant on multiple people too

[frail heart]

R6C1 was pretty fun to optimise

[halcyon current]

I'd rather live and die by my own successes and failures speedrunning

[tardy ingot]

theres solo speedruns in general

And theres always the tutorial

Basically 0 rng

solo

[halcyon current]

Why am I not surprised people speedrun the tutorial lmao

[tardy ingot]

most ran lvl

ALSO

im so sad its not in gtfo% @frail heart

[digital mural]

dont speedrun
you will dissapoint our god Sleepyboi

[tardy ingot]

should force everyone in the team to run it and average out their times

[frail heart]

We did it in the streamathon

[tardy ingot]

I know

mac the goat

[halcyon current]

No intention of it, GTFO isn't my kinda game for speedrunning

[tardy ingot]

while we were running

Speedrunning in this game can be such a rush

Dont have to go into grinding mode

R8A2sec is honestly very fun

[halcyon current]

Ehehehehehhhhhhhhh, when I start speedrunning something I gotta keep doing it till I'm happy

[tardy ingot]

[halcyon current]

So while you don't have to go grind mode, I'm predisposed to

[tardy ingot]

Man im so madge

below zero we found out console has a 25%!!! Speed buff on surface swimming

and they are like „eh“

so now runs for console on anything that doesnt involve mega crafting are just straight up advantaged

[digital mural]

are you speedrunning below zero?

[tardy ingot]

like a dude being 20 seconds faster on a run than me even though we have same route ..

[halcyon current]

Subnautica BZ?

[tardy ingot]

I have before and wanted to again since a record of mine got taken

[digital mural]

ohhhhh

good luck

[tardy ingot]

i probably wont due to that tho

i dont like running with a disadvantage

[silent delta]

subnautica mentioned

i am risen

[tardy ingot]

Imagine if gtfo just gave people 20% speedboost if they played from na

like ??

[silent delta]

high ping strats

[halcyon current]

It's the NA crutch bro we need it

[tardy ingot]

but ye

[halcyon current]

Favorite survival crafter I've ever played

[tardy ingot]

its the 2nd speed game that just doesnt care about making stuff clean for competition

[digital mural]

horror game*

[tardy ingot]

Another game ignored load time making MASSIVE differences

[halcyon current]

Just picked up Grounded recently which I'm hoping is half as good

[silent delta]

the first one, i presume

[halcyon current]

Tbh I don't think it's that scary

[halcyon current]

Never played Below Zero so, ye

[silent delta]

who said it couldnt be both?

[tardy ingot]

like legit

1 runner was at a 2m flat run
Another at 1m 15 sec

2m runner was only 5 sec behind actually… load times were horrendous

[silent delta]

its still a good game

but it falls very very short of the admittedly high bar the first game set

[halcyon current]

I believe it, I just never got around to it

[digital mural]

i learnt i had a massive fear to the ocean

lol

😔

[halcyon current]

Love the ocean, love diving.

[silent delta]

so so so many reviews i see are "this game gave me thalassophobia nad im ok with that"

[digital mural]

i have never been to the ocean

or any beach

[silent delta]

i have like 300 hours in the game so its not scary anymore but good god the first time you're just driving around, chilling, and

[tardy ingot]

man im gonna have a love hate relationship with below zero now..

[silent delta]

detecting multiple leviathan class lifeforms in the region

[halcyon current]

I've looked over reef edges down into the abyss below, so seeing it in a video game doesn't do as much for me

[silent delta]

are you certain whatever you're doing is worth it?

[silent delta]

i mean, honestly i think the first game kind of set an insurmountable bar

like

[tardy ingot]

love - great game, found a glitch that wasnt known and is used for speedrunning

Hate - fucking advantages being ignored

[silent delta]

there is nothing like og subnautica in gaming that ive seen

nothing even close

but i feel like they could have done at least a little better with bz

[tardy ingot]

yes

better land, better ocean, better enemy design, better lore reasonings

still great game

[halcyon current]

Hell, even the lore entries in the PDA have more care in em

[silent delta]

bz has?

[silent delta]

bro

like

they copied over the pda entries from the first game for stuff that was in both games

and then if you compare those to the entries for the new stuff

it is NIGHT and day

[tardy ingot]

No like
It should have vs what it actually has

[silent delta]

some of them are just straight up unfinished lmao

[silent delta]

the environments were fine, i think

[halcyon current]

I heard one of the real killers for BZ was the move speed

[silent delta]

i thought they were cool enough

didnt have the same charm as the first game but it was alright

[tardy ingot]

The early one were beautiful

[silent delta]

but the story bro

it was so sad

[tardy ingot]

later ones were weirdly uninspired

above land also felt very static

[halcyon current]

OG Subnautica has a genuinely fantastic sci fi story imo

[silent delta]

like the only decent part of it was alan and robin having the whole hive mind vs individual discussion, and not actually hating each other for it
like, genuinely being interested and having a discussion about it

everything else was whatever

[tardy ingot]

OG subnautica handles mystery quite well

[silent delta]

i didnt even FINSIh the damn game cuz i didnt know about the spy pengling holes

i just made alans body and fucking left lmao

[halcyon current]

The only real problem I have with subnautica is right at the climax the pacing grinds to a fucking halt while you build the rocket

[silent delta]

the fuckin, lily pad region?

that was cool as shit

i loved that

felt very subnautica-y

[silent delta]

wdym

[halcyon current]

Like there's a lot going on, Climax happens with the Sea Emperor, you're riding high, and then you gotta go collect a royal ton of resources to build the rocket

It felt fast, fast, fast urgent then

Smacked in the face with a stop sign

[silent delta]

mmm

i could see how that could happen

well i dont really feel like any part of the game was "urgent"

it was a very go at your own pace kind of game

and also since its open world, you could have done thing in any order

[halcyon current]

Idk, the climax for me happened basically all at once and then rocket time

[silent delta]

like you get the code to get onto the aurora very early, you could have started building the rocket beforehand

in which case, your expedition to the lower regions to get rare mats to finsih the rocket can also be your story finisher

[tardy ingot]

that one and the twisty bridges man

[silent delta]

twisty bridges were dope

oh and there was this one other fuckin area, i have no idea what its called or where ti is

it was like this cave with plant growth and spores everywhere

felt like you were inside a giant flower

[halcyon current]

Yeah I suppose, it isn't how it happened for me tho personally. The rocket in it's entirety was the last thing I did.

[tardy ingot]

you know the funny part is

I know the ogs map by heart

[silent delta]

which really sucks because i could see how that messes the pacing

[tardy ingot]

but for below zero

I only know speedrun routes

[silent delta]

but thats the risk you take with ultimate player freedom

[tardy ingot]

lol

[silent delta]

i dont know jack shit

[tardy ingot]

i can tell you the fastest way to a shadow leviathan

[silent delta]

i have like

32 hours in below zero

for my one playthrough

[tardy ingot]

and how many bladderfish you need

[silent delta]

and i have almost 300 in subnautica one

i assume you guys have seen that subnautica 3 got announced

[halcyon current]

I saw the leaks

[tardy ingot]

Yea

[halcyon current]

No official announcement tho

I should probably play BZ between now and 3 coming out

[silent delta]

i saw their instagram post

and was like yknow holy shit hype hype hype

[silent delta]

i think its still worth playing

just dont set your expectations too high lmao

ugh i need to go find this biome name now

hang on

[halcyon current]

Fwiw to you I didn't not play it because the internet said bad game lmao, I didn't play it cause I have 800 games on steam I'm working through

Like I just played BG3 for the first time and that ate 300 hours

Solid game tho

[silent delta]

bro

this fucking website has a SCREENSHOT of the exact biome im looking for at the top of the screen

but the biome itself isint in the listing

[tardy ingot]

Below zero is still a top tier game tbh

def recommend

Nr 12 to subnautica being nr 4 for me

[silent delta]

https://www.ign.com/wikis/subnautica-below-zero/Subnautica_Biomes

its the image at the top of this website

that biome

that one was cool as shit

[silent delta]

subnautica might not be my top game of all time, there are other games that i have more fun playing, they have better gameplay

but if i had to go back and experience any game for the first time again, it would be subnautica

no question

[halcyon current]

Tbh

For me that's OG Dark Souls

I'd do anything to have my first Dark Souls run all over again

[tardy ingot]

its hard to say for a singular game

but any of my top 4 are likely great picks

bloodborne, hollow knight, ds3, subnautica

[silent delta]

id do anything to see a reaper for the first time again

[silent delta]

dark souls or dead space

[halcyon current]

Betting souls

[silent delta]

fair

im playing dead space 3 right now

its solid but cant hold a candle to dead space 2

dead space 2 is one of my top five fs

[halcyon current]

It's way better co op

Carver and Isaac get seperate instances of hallucinations and shit so it's cool

[digital mural]

you need a coop partner?

:3

i kinda want to replay DS3 one day

[silent delta]

im on chapter 18

[halcyon current]

You can't just steal my thunder like that

I was gonna have a slow lead in

[silent delta]

but if you wanna drop in right at the end sure why not

[halcyon current]

Then drop the question

[silent delta]

im kind of struggling a bit lmao

[digital mural]

:(

[silent delta]

ive been playing it singleplayer

[halcyon current]

With?

[tardy ingot]

dead space 3 is

[silent delta]

uh

myself

[digital mural]

oh yeah you need a coop partner

some scenes are so cool

as carver

[halcyon current]

No like, what're you struggling with?

[silent delta]

im on hard difficulty

there are many enemies

and i have all but run out of ammo

[digital mural]

sell some parts

and get ammo

[halcyon current]

^

[digital mural]

sell anything that isnt your main guns

[silent delta]

i would love to do that if i could find a god damn bench

[digital mural]

at that point in the game you should already have good weapons

[silent delta]

i have a giga shotgun and a souped up line gun wtih a rocket launcher on the bottom

who needs reload speed

[digital mural]

my main gun was rifle with sniper on the bottom

[halcyon current]

Tbh, the standard ass rifle with an electric mod is comically good

[digital mural]

sniper one shot btw

[halcyon current]

Ds3 is like, not as heavy on the limb based combat

[silent delta]

i just turned my shotgun into an automatic rifle to see what it was like

and i have decided i do nto like it

it eats ammo way quicker

[digital mural]

too bad one of the most important parts is only at the last bit of the game

[silent delta]

well yeah cuz half the enemies are human

[digital mural]

the grip that gives more dmg iforgot its name

[halcyon current]

I put a melee on the bottom of a shotgun personally

[silent delta]

if you cut a unitologists leg off he fucking dies

[halcyon current]

That's fun

[halcyon current]

If you shoot him in the head he also just fucking dies

[silent delta]

oh yeah in dead space 2 i got the seeker rifle asap and god i loved that thing