rundown 12 :O
#gtfo-related-questions
ocean spindle
civic wave
🕯️
drowsy gust
lmao
drowsy gust
uhhhh im a bish so nawr
wet bear
+cfoam for terminals
Mines for terminals work too
hard nexus
how
wet bear
You explode them into face of someone sitting on terminal
keen path
try slug + choke
ocean spindle
why
keen path
😄
hard nexus
well that doesnt have to be on terminal
cfoam u make em blind effectively softlocking
near zealot
that's a good point actually, the only pen thing that isn't that good is the sentry
ocean spindle
it's surprisingly ok
just gotta make good use of it
and more of its back dmg cause it's the only sentry that has it
wet bear
cfoam u make em blind effectively softlocking
Theoretically you can make them blind with mines too especially if they have bloom enabled
hard nexus
are we playing the same game
wet bear
Yes
keen path
no one has bloom enabled
uhm
minor fractal
I'm not convinced the bloom toggle does anything at all.
tardy ingot
very solid weapons and good beginner guns
hard nexus
half of the graphics settings do fuck all tbh
wet bear
I'm not convinced the bloom toggle does anything at all.
Apex door glow brighter with it
On some angles it's like a mini sun with bloom
Same with mines especially in dark rooms like beginning of R6D1
near zealot
maybe add pen damage nerfs so it's just an added bonus instead of multi kills? let hel rifle keep the full pen and make the mains the weakest, that keeps auto and to an extent shotgun strong at their stagger niche while making Revo and Gun way less problematic and more added utility. as it stands the only way they can balance them properly is by making the guns worse to compensate for the strength of pen in this game (ammo econ) or nerf the pen and nerfing the pen makes more sense and makes the guns still satisfying to use
minor fractal
HEL Shotgun and HEL Rifle are equally problematic, if not more-so.
near zealot
I think nerfing the hel rifle will kill it unfortunately, its in a really bad position for balance. It's really good right now but it can be really trash very quickly
minor fractal
If it keeps 20 damage on subsequent hits, I think it functions fine.
Because imo it is the stronger option for harder content
Every special enemy, it shreds.
near zealot
Yeah maybe, I think HEL Gun is just better in more cases but it's undeniable they are both solid top tiers for specials. HEL Rifle also completely outclasses Sniper so that's also a problem. IG we'll have to let them cook for hopefully a new balance patch that may or may not ever come and hope they don't pull a bullpup
stiff hearth
I did 90% of my progress with hel shotgun + Prec Rifle
minor fractal
I don't think it's true that HEL Rifle outclasses Sniper.
It is currently one of the best giant answers when you have a multitude of giants at once, but Sniper is more-so outclassed by BC.
Similar range and control, much better for bosses, much better for smalls, and a bit better for giants.
tardy ingot
tbf those guns dont outclass sniper cuz they are that insane at it
its cuz sniper is also kinda dogshit
also tbf hel rifle even without pen at all would probably still be pretty fine
near zealot
It is currently one of the best giant answers when you have a multitude of giant...
I don't really think Giants are particularly good in the first place so maybe that's where we disagree, chargers are way bigger problems IMO and HEL Rifle steamrolls them. Giants are very slow and very easy to stagger, and like you said BC can do basically anything Sniper can except oneshot Giants in a single bullet and you lose a lot of value from your sniper if the giants gets damaged at all because of overkill, which it probably will unless you call it out. Plus Sniper unfortunately trash tier for bosses. HEL Rifle also doesn't use headshots at all so I think it's personally better into giants because it doesn't overkill as hard and can let you team kill just as fast due to head precision
tardy ingot
remember its basically high cal. But exchanges range for charge up/cooldown aswell as 1 less per mag
tardy ingot
The issue is that all pen guns kinda work even without pen in the at least „pretty decent“ tier
hidden ridge
I just want a full auto main weapon that ain't PDW or hel pp
hidden ridge
I don't really think Giants are particularly good in the first place so maybe th...
BC can oneburst giants
to the back, but still
To be fair you did write "one bullet" but I feel that's very limitative considering it's a burst weapon
Also, I'll say that I dont like reasonings like "weapon X doesn't onetap enemy Y" because you've teammates shooting too, so if weapon X does 80% of the damage, that's a big deal
minor fractal
I don't really think Giants are particularly good in the first place so maybe th...
Giants are a major threat on R5E1 and R8E2.
It's also not clear why Sniper is being discussed at all if we're not talking giants, because that is kind of its main role in the game. It is a giant answer, a hybrid answer, and a slightly weaker tank and pmom answer, at least when it was 3-mag with a decent RoF.
hidden ridge
I liked Sniper because onetapping hybrids is satisfying but tbh that was it
minor fractal
Sniper has simply never been a charger or nightmare answer.
tardy ingot
Tbf i think r6 sniper would be an ok nightmare answer 
minor fractal
Super slug shotgun goes hard
tardy ingot
hidden ridge
Tbf i think r6 sniper would be an ok nightmare answer <:kappa:738616567272702033...
r6 sniper was borked
tardy ingot
r6 sniper having 1 less per refill than choke mod at the time
Insane
Oh btw @minor fractal
How much for you to do a full analysis of the endgame video
minor fractal
weapon tier list boooo
I'm putting sawed-off in big iron tier.
W8, what were all of the categories?
Side-arm, big iron, long-gun...
Was that it?
Or is there more?
Or is it all big irons and long guns?
I didn't really follow the lore besides stalking their DRG message history.
tardy ingot
w/ plans for full game review
Oooh
Looking forward to that
anyway, how much 
tardy ingot
civic wave
I still can't believe how many messages he had in this server
and in the end he rage quit the server because he got told off for being an ass, unfortunate
native helm
Yesterday, I played with a person who had no mask on at all. I could see his face, how is this item or "helmet" obtainable?
tardy ingot
Modded
native helm
Do u know which one? or did he create that himself do you think?
ocean spindle
probs a specific one but u probs get better luck asking in the modding server
native helm
thanks for the answers
near zealot
Giants are a major threat on R5E1 and R8E2.
It's also not clear why Sniper is...
R5E1 is a very long mission where Sniper ammo econ on giants actually comes into play and there are like a billion of them but I see your point, I do just be a Sniper hater
minor fractal
R5E1 is a very long mission where Sniper ammo econ on giants actually comes into...
Current Sniper is not great on that level
But 3-mag sniper was quite good.
HEL Rifle specifically is very strong when you have lots of giants up at once, or spawning from a scout wave or second to last alarm.
Well, Sniper is not great for going fast.
I think in a casual run, it has enough targets that it kind of works.
Especially hybrids, which are a major nuisance for a large part of the level.
mossy aurora
and in the end he rage quit the server because he got told off for being an ass,...
Who...
civic wave
is that a pun on member being another word for penis so it's a roundabout way of calling him a dick?
well played, well played
frail heart
pable isnt smart enough for that
digital mural
pable isnt smart enough for that
:(
digital mural
the... one
hey juggerkitty
narrow niche
see
frail heart
sorry my dark side came out
narrow niche
hey juggerkitty
look at that
narrow niche
sorry my dark side came out
tf you mean your dark side
digital mural
sorry my dark side came out
but you are white
narrow niche
youre aussie
narrow niche
but you are white
^
frail heart
making it a race thing smh
narrow niche
making it a race thing smh
youre literally aussie you cant complain about this
frail heart
???????
frail heart
crazy
narrow niche
<3
narrow niche
sorry my dark side came out
pasty
narrow niche
smh
mossy dome
does anyone have a recommendation for which level would be best for attempts on the "Controlled Response" achievement?
digital mural
does anyone have a recommendation for which level would be best for attempts on ...
r1b1
silent delta
honestly i think sniper shines best in hybrid-spam levels
they're faster and smaller than giants, and have more health, so there's no brain dead two-burst BC
they tend to hang out further away from you and may have other enemies in between
past mesa
honestly i think sniper shines best in hybrid-spam levels
You are correct but have you heard of light stagger
Because a single pellet of hel shottt at 400 meters can stop the hybrid shooting
silent delta
well yeah stagger is all well and good
but also killing them is nice
listen when i say "sniper shines" i dont necessarily mean "shines above other options" i more mean "its the best ur gonna get out of the gun"
past mesa
it is really good hybrid option but with proper play
Hybrids shouldn’t ever get to act
tiny wyvern
I mean it also shines when you have to fight a kraken
silent delta
i mean yeah obvi bc or choke mod or hel rifle works too
possibly even better since they're more versatile
but if they're just chucking hybrids at you endlessl
y
like uhh
r6c2?
whichever r6 level
you know the one
silent delta
i guess those zones are pretty close quarters compared to some others
so they cant snipe you from range as easily
past mesa
Yeah also sniper sentry can be good there
Also I think there is maybe play to just ignore the hybrids
And just go
silent delta
if you have four people who know exactly what they're doing then maybe
but ive mostly played that level with people who are competent but dont have the level memorized
silent delta
I mean it also shines when you have to fight a kraken
actually i disagree
ive used it post-nerf
unironically, i think BC is way better
you can almost pop a tumor without reloading
tiny wyvern
Depends on which one you're doing
silent delta
i suppose
past mesa
It is a hard toss up
silent delta
i can say with confidence it is far better for r8b2 secondary
past mesa
r6d1 sniper feels really good
silent delta
i dont think ive played r6d1 since sniper nerf
past mesa
It is a really good level
I enjoy it I think it is one of the best send off levels we could have hoped for and gotten
past mesa
I wish it was harder but it is really good
ocean spindle
e2 my beloved
digital mural
its basically a test of your skills
silent delta
hard as balls for the average player, perhaps not quite as difficult as it could be for vets
digital mural
all of your skills
silent delta
but we're definitely hte minority
or y'all are the minority
im definitely not "r8e2 is easy" tier lmao
ocean spindle
hard as balls for the average player, perhaps not quite as difficult as it could...
e2 issue is it's a bit unbalanced, with the first half being tons harder than the second one
the second one feels normal e1 or maybe even just hard d tier
silent delta
but my point is i think its hard enough since its gonna be cbt for most people
and if yall want a harder challenge then modded is dope
digital mural
the only hard part of E2 is like the first 30 mins tbh
silent delta
e2 issue is it's a bit unbalanced, with the first half being tons harder than th...
im ok with the hard part being the beginning
less timeloss on reset
past mesa
or y'all are the minority
It isn’t easy by any stretch but there is only 3 wipe conditions
ocean spindle
issue for e2 is not being harder cause it needs to be harder as a whole
but parts of it being harder than others
silent delta
issue for e2 is not being harder cause it needs to be harder as a whole
but part...
that i can get behind
past mesa
issue for e2 is not being harder cause it needs to be harder as a whole
but part...
Main compared to secondary
Is crazy
ocean spindle
the first half works rlly well but the second one with some spoils i won't say it loses it
digital mural
i wish the last part was a bit more challenging
narrow niche
Second half honk mimimi
digital mural
but its fun
ocean spindle
Main compared to secondary
not even rlly cause the first part of main i think holds up, not to the same level but it still holds up
silent delta
the first half works rlly well but the second one with some spoils i won't say i...
yeah i know its been out for a while but minimum spoilers plz 🙏
ocean spindle
yeah i know its been out for a while but minimum spoilers plz 🙏
there's strikers :3
maybe
digital mural
yeah i know its been out for a while but minimum spoilers plz 🙏
🙏
E2 has 3 cool surprises waiting for you
ocean spindle
spoiled
silent delta
there's strikers :3
fuck
narrow niche
Does any level not have strikers?
silent delta
my one weakness
narrow niche
Or shooters?
ocean spindle
there's shooters too OMG-
digital mural
theres a lot of sleepers
ocean spindle
or alert any scout
silent delta
theres no sleeping biters
narrow niche
Idc
silent delta
and u dont need to do any alarms to beat the level right
narrow niche
Alarm
ocean spindle
but just purely, no there had never been a gtfo level without strikers shooter
silent delta
are there any levels without giants?
ocean spindle
are there any levels without giants?
some r5 levels
past mesa
are there any levels without giants?
Yeah probs
narrow niche
are there any levels without giants?
Prolly
silent delta
just charger spam instead of giants?
ocean spindle
R5 A1 A2 i don't believe have any
past mesa
It used to be more common when enemy group could demote
ocean spindle
A2 specially not even in alarms
past mesa
A2 specially not even in alarms
Scout waves tho right?
digital mural
is there a level without scouts?
ocean spindle
uh i don't believe so either but i'm unsure
silent delta
is there a level without scouts?
r1c1
ocean spindle
is there a level without scouts?
of course- have u bit played r6 r7 r8- any level ever?
past mesa
R7a1
ocean spindle
bruh
silent delta
doesnt r7a1 have a scout?
digital mural
of course- have u bit played r6 r7 r8- any level ever?
yeah but i dont remember if they didnt had scouts
ocean spindle
doesnt r7a1 have a scout?
no
past mesa
doesnt r7a1 have a scout?
No
ocean spindle
up from r6 only b tiers have scouts
ocean spindle
[and r8a2]
ocean spindle
greenhouse room with two scouts in early r7
b1 yes
digital mural
a goober, if you will
Goobernaught
ocean spindle
guys is there ever been a level without bbcs
digital mural
it actually sounds cool
narrow niche
guys is there ever been a level without bbcs
Throwing you off a cliff
ocean spindle
:[
silent delta
guys is there ever been a level without bbcs
has there ever been a level without giga mom
digital mural
i remember we had someone complaining we called big black chargers "BBC"
narrow niche
Is there a level without any visible fog
silent delta
i remember we had someone complaining we called big black chargers "BBC"
hoenstly i fucking hate that its become so ingrained in me that its what i refer to them instinctually
narrow niche
At any point in the level
silent delta
it didnt used to be this way
digital mural
hoenstly i fucking hate that its become so ingrained in me that its what i refer...
well, its actually easier
BBC is fast to type
silent delta
Is there a level without any visible fog
r8a1?
silent delta
well, its actually easier
yeah i know it is
but charger giant doesnt take that much longer to say
hazy wedge
Just call them the sleepy names
past mesa
Rock heads
ocean spindle
what would sleepy call the funny r8 enemies
digital mural
bitter
digital mural
what would sleepy call the funny r8 enemies
he had names for them
past mesa
what would sleepy call the funny r8 enemies
Anime
silent delta
i dont need sleepy 😤
narrow niche
Just call them the sleepy names
Yuki no
hazy wedge
Yuki yes
silent delta
sorry automod
narrow niche
Rock heads
:C
silent delta
what would sleepy call the funny r8 enemies
h*ntai
ocean spindle
dreadnaught trying to not get automodded challenge
silent delta
i called flyers testicles for quite a while
silent delta
dreadnaught trying to not get automodded challenge
im being 1984ed and yall are laughing
this is bidens america
narrow niche
im being 1984ed and yall are laughing
L
digital mural
he gets automodded
narrow niche
Skill issue
silent delta
IM SORRY
narrow niche
i dont THINK before i HIT ENTER
Clearly not
ocean spindle
u goober
digital mural
OH YEAH
digital mural
SLEEPY CALLED FLIERS "ROOTS"
silent delta
snoze
digital mural
goodnight gaynaught
silent delta
goodnight gaynaught
i prefer gaught
narrow niche
and he used to call Pablo "stug"
Ufhsjbfjsndn
The stug isn't even
Losing it
Nothing in common
narrow niche
Nope
narrow niche
it was also named "Sturmgeschütz"
Yes
digital mural
StuG III for short
digital mural
a
ocean spindle
ok german
digital mural
makes sense
narrow niche
Doctrine difference
digital mural
It's an assault gun
everything is an assault gun if you think about it
narrow niche
Ok
narrow niche
Ok
digital mural
i go cry now
narrow niche
Ok
silent delta
Anything is an assault rifle if you use it wrong enough
soft crater
Anything is an assault rifle if you use it wrong enough
So by that logic
Scattergun is an AR
livid stone
no
turbid horizon
little brook
How viable is loud clearing missions, my friend and I are struggling to clear quiet
narrow niche
How viable is loud clearing missions, my friend and I are struggling to clear qu...
most levels have enough ammo
if you use it effectively
just
why
little brook
Cus he keeps waking the big sleeper hoards
frail heart
How viable is loud clearing missions, my friend and I are struggling to clear qu...
spedran
narrow niche
latent obsidian
Loud clearing guide when?
narrow niche
^^^
silent delta
Cus he keeps waking the big sleeper hoards
get better friends
little brook
what level
the 4th rundown 1 mission 💀
latent obsidian
.....R1C1?
narrow niche
.....R1C1?
i dont think that has many sleepers?
latent obsidian
Yeah exactly but it is the fourth mission in rundown 1
little brook
It's 100% not that, it's post the reactor level
latent obsidian
R1C2 or D1 would both make sense I guess
little brook
Dang I was off by a long shot, but it as R1C2 we were on last night
little brook
We were clearing just fine till we came across a group of 5 sleeps all next to eachother in a cramped spot
He got too close to one as we were lining up shot lines
narrow niche
which zone
narrow niche
shot... lines?
little brook
Since we were duo's we lined up our shots to take out 2-3 sleepers at a time then melee the rest
if we couldn't use melee for the whole thing
Watching that stealth video atm
ocean spindle
Since we were duo's we lined up our shots to take out 2-3 sleepers at a time the...
if u encounter a big ball of 5 take into account not all 5 will wake up
if u melee one, only probs 2 or so will wake up, in which cause ur partner can take one and u can charge for the other one
hitting enemies one after the other is not that hard u just gotta be fast
with a hammer/spear, aim for the back of the head [or just the head if u cant] and then don't full charge, but charge as long as u can before it attacks or screams
frail heart
ya dont shoot if theres a lot in the room melee as much as you can
narrow niche
if u encounter a big ball of 5 take into account not all 5 will wake up
if u mel...
^
ocean spindle
if you really feel like u cannot melee so many enemies
shot the ground or one of em, close the door that leads into that room and mine it
narrow niche
Unless they are literally all within each other's close aggro range
That would be
Funny
But probably not
little brook
From the video and what ya'll said, it looks like we were overestimating how quickly they'll alert the whole room/others around them
ocean spindle
yeah it's not rlly a instant everyone is awake
silent delta
either that or just clear everythign else in the room and use guns
ocean spindle
it's until they scream
silent delta
if you aren't confident in your melee or wakeup manipulation
silent delta
Unless they are literally all within each other's close aggro range
theres this one spot on r8d1 where two charger giants spawn
in the room with the big pit
and like 80% of the time they are literally inside each other
it just looks like a bbc with four arms
silent delta
awww they got rid of that?
ocean spindle
yeh
silent delta
thats so sad
silent delta
biblically accurate charger giant
grizzled patrol
theres this one spot on r8d1 where two charger giants spawn
Havent they fixed that? I dont remember them doing that anymore
silent delta
what about scouts killing you and then pushing?
😩
little brook
Do ya'll have a recommended main weapon? I'm abt to hop on and practice learning the stealth mechanics but dunno which guns to bring (My special is the Drekker Del p1 for the thermal scope)
grizzled patrol
Sawn off
silent delta
Do ya'll have a recommended main weapon? I'm abt to hop on and practice learning...
i would encourage you to experiment
try out guns see hwat you like
ocean spindle
Do ya'll have a recommended main weapon? I'm abt to hop on and practice learning...
uhh main weapons are just usually a whatever u wanna take but some standouts are carbine, sawed off, dmr, smg/heavy smh...
silent delta
but for what is generally accepted to be the best in main slot, in no particular order:
hel shotgun, sawed off shotgun, carbine, hel revolver, dmr, double tap rifle
maybe heavy smg
pdw if you want thermal
as long as you dont bring burst pistol your main slot will do something
grizzled patrol
Pistol is quite underrated
little brook
I'll try out that list, thank you :D
ocean spindle
yeh just experiment r1 is ur time to experiment
experiment also with ur special
don't bring prec rifle all the time cause eventually a level will not be good for it
and u will need to change it
grizzled patrol
but for what is generally accepted to be the best in main slot, in no particular...
Wait where is Hel PP 
silent delta
generally speaking, dont bring burst pistol short rifle or sniper, and you can still get value
silent delta
Wait where is Hel PP <a:Kanye_stare:809623542583918654>
i forgor
thats another one
thank you
ocean spindle
there's a lot of good mains is hard to remember them all
silent delta
if u had to rank the full autos how would u
not including hel shotty because obviously that ones first
ocean spindle
uhhh autopistol
smg/hsmg [they pretty much the same quality]
pdw
machinepiss
ar
bullpup
silent delta
auto pp
hsmg/pdw
smg/machine pistol
assault rifle
bullpup
ocean spindle
burst rifle is not auto
ocean spindle
burst rifle it's great tho very much on carbine level for me
i just forget about it
silent delta
to me it just feels like a stat swapped ar
i don like it
glad we can all agree bullpup is dogshit at least
ocean spindle
:D
grizzled patrol
burst rifle it's great tho very much on carbine level for me
Burst rifle is Just too balanced. Not weak, but Not strong either
silent delta
i mean you could argue the same for ar
narrow niche
burst rifle it's great tho very much on carbine level for me
less than carbine
silent delta
and look at that poor thing
ocean spindle
Burst rifle is Just too balanced. Not weak, but Not strong either
i'd say it's pretty strong over on long distances rlly
minimal recoil and long range is good
narrow niche
its just a worse carbine
grizzled patrol
i'd say it's pretty strong over on long distances rlly
Yes, but its outclassed by other options
ocean spindle
its just a worse carbine
u could say that of literally every other weapon tho
narrow niche
u could say that of literally every other weapon tho
no
ocean spindle
except like 2
narrow niche
you literally couldnt
the others are autos
the burst rifle is literally a worse carbine
narrow niche
DAMN
silent delta
it feels like an ar thats slightly better at range and single target and slightly worse at crowd control
ocean spindle
mh i don't think it's by nothing like the autos, i think it's very much on something like a dmr level or dtr level
but well that's just my takeo
narrow niche
mh i don't think it's by nothing like the autos, i think it's very much on somet...
it is not dmr
silent delta
yeah maybe, idk
ocean spindle
it is not dmr
i don't think u get me
silent delta
maybe you have to be better at aiming than i am to get value out of it
grizzled patrol
but i dont think its much better than ar
Been a while since i Last used it, but its defo on the lower end of the ranking
silent delta
Been a while since i Last used it, but its defo on the lower end of the ranking
above ar and bullpoop but worse than the rest
silent delta
ifo why are u so toxic today
ifo's toxic every day wym
ocean spindle
take ur coffee please they r more toxic than usual
narrow niche
i dont drink coffe
grizzled patrol
take ur coffee please they r more toxic than usual
Mmm mud water
silent delta
coffee is disgusting dont @ me
narrow niche
^
silent delta
covfefe
silent delta
smells bad, tastes worse, and caffeine doesnt even work on me
ocean spindle
let's drink tea :3
grizzled patrol
that calms them or something
I have never Seen anyone who gets calm after ceffeine
silent delta
tea is also gross
narrow niche
that calms them or something
are you sure this is how coffee works
silent delta
dont @ me
narrow niche
tea is also gross
@silent delta
silent delta
I have never Seen anyone who gets calm after ceffeine
meeeee :3
narrow niche
lie
silent delta
i have adhd, cool side effect is stimulants have the opposite effect they're supposed to
caffeine puts me to sleep
narrow niche
caffeine puts me to sleep
real
grizzled patrol
tea is also gross
Oi Mate, on what day do you have time for your Public execution?
silent delta
ill schedule it for 80 years from now
ocean spindle
i have adhd, cool side effect is stimulants have the opposite effect they're sup...
i dont like how many adhd things i have it worries me
narrow niche
no
silent delta
just not a fan of hot drinks
narrow niche
ill schedule it for 80 years from now
rn
narrow niche
I have never Seen anyone who gets calm after ceffeine
tbh though idr ever drinking a significant amount of coffee
so
im not sure what itd do
it just disgusting
silent delta
i dont like how many adhd things i have it worries me
have you considered getting screened
little brook
Sorry to bud in mid convo, but how much charge do I need to break a giants limb?
for the hammer
ocean spindle
have you considered getting screened
green screened? maybe :3
silent delta
i got diagnosed in first grade and it was great
narrow niche
Sorry to bud in mid convo, but how much charge do I need to break a giants limb?
89% from the front
silent delta
Sorry to bud in mid convo, but how much charge do I need to break a giants limb?
with sledge?
little brook
yeah
silent delta
80-90%
narrow niche
6-% from the back
little brook
alrighty thank you
silent delta
its not much of a numbers thing tbh
grizzled patrol
i dont like how many adhd things i have it worries me
Bro is Not on a Spectre, He IS the spectre
narrow niche
spectre
silent delta
you'll get it with practice
ocean spindle
yeah it's a lot of feel
ocean spindle
u can almost always full charge tho
ocean spindle
slendo youre a spectre now
dies of death
narrow niche
_dies of death_
nooooo
ocean spindle
spectre time tuhhh
ocean spindle
not urs ew
narrow niche
how could you
ocean spindle
[:3]
narrow niche
:3
ocean spindle
yes
narrow niche
real
grizzled patrol
like the hit song by Alan Walker?
We live, we Love, we lie
silent delta
doooo dodododododoooo dododoooo dododododooooo
doooo dododoooo dododododooododododoodoooo
narrow niche
NOOOOO
silent delta
nothing hits the same as alan walker-fade but low quality(full version)
grizzled patrol
Compressed Version is such a banger
little brook
A knife can't limb break in one shot right?
tardy ingot
it can from behind
narrow niche
it can
grizzled patrol
It can
grizzled patrol
But Broken Animation in Relation to the actual hitbox will f you over
narrow niche
But Broken Animation in Relation to the actual hitbox will f you over
:C
giant turning animation
little brook
Is it possible to pull off that stun lock for giants shown in the stealth video if I'm using a knife?
Like it'll always be back to me right
if im quick
silent delta
Is it possible to pull off that stun lock for giants shown in the stealth video ...
possible? yes
consistent? probably not
you have to get backstabs
so if the giant spins around weird it throws everything off
grizzled patrol
I dont remember the conditions for the Giant to start spinning
silent delta
is it possible to manipulate it?
grizzled patrol
I dont remember the conditions for the Giant to start spinning
Was ist Like hitting from the Side?
silent delta
idk
narrow niche
:P
silent delta
if you're practicing soloing giants, id recommend using spear
narrow niche
either way just stay in the same angle until the animation concludes
silent delta
the extra melee range helps you get the hang of things without putting yourself in danger
little brook
Shit I already dropped 😭
narrow niche
and it should be the back
silent delta
Shit I already dropped 😭
godspeed
little brook
I like the knife more anyways, I'll just get good ✨
silent delta
wait till you fight a bbc
then you may change your mind
but no reason to greet that day any sooner than you have to
grizzled patrol
wait till you fight a bbc
I Love how they are filled with Helium
silent delta
what
grizzled patrol
They weigh Almost nothing, one Hit and they behave Like they were Hit by a truck
narrow niche
^
silent delta
oh
yeah they stagger like crazy
cannot tell you how many shots i whiffed cuz they get hit once and run to the other side of the room
narrow niche
oh right bbc ragdoll is always funny
grizzled patrol
Jokes on you, He was still alive and now He is going to Punch you through the wall
silent delta
average tbh
bbcs are like the only non boss enemy that still scares me
i can handle just about anything else without breaking a sweat
narrow niche
i can handle just about anything else without breaking a sweat
bring scatter and you will be able to handle any non boss
and mom
ez
narrow niche
snatcher two shot goes hard
civic wave
scatter goes so hard sometimes that you take 3 of them for speedruns
narrow niche
gamin
frail heart
NO
silent delta
make it fire 32 hel rifle bullets
narrow niche
256 damage
narrow niche
make it fire 32 hel rifle bullets
^^^^
silent delta
960 damage x 6
silent delta
one shot the kraken
silent delta
one shot a tank from the front
narrow niche
2563.8408 pres damage per shot
make the scatter fire 32 scatter shots
4915.2 dmg
1024 pellets
no issue
silent delta
infinite scatter glitch
silent delta
1024 pellets
you press mouse 1 and the game crashes
near zealot
Is it possible to pull off that stun lock for giants shown in the stealth video ...
Yes, you need to make sure to hit the head because it's the only one I've found is fairly consistent in also making them stumble forward and knife charges fast enough to perma stagger them until death as long as you do it correctly
silent delta
Yes, you need to make sure to hit the head because it's the only one I've found ...
any limb break is a guaranteed stagger
it is easier on the head cuz knife has a prec multi but you can do it on limbs too
near zealot
any limb break is a guaranteed stagger
sometimes they spin weird if you do limbs which is why i recommended head, but that is facts. at least for the first hit. plus I think the knife precision and sleep modifier makes it a consistent 4 hit just like spear/sledge
silent delta
really the best way to solo kill a giant with a knife is to use a gun
near zealot
really the best way to solo kill a giant with a knife is to use a gun
hot take, knifing giants is easier than scouts
silent delta
eh
once you get the muscle memory for a scout kill its pretty repeatable
giants are a lot less predictable cuz you have to hit them so many more times
and you know, fuck up once and theres half your health gone
near zealot
scout got those wonky neck zones on knife i hate it
silent delta
just jump headsas
near zealot
just jump headsas
i try maybe it's just skill issue but i always land it first try on bat maybe im just born a bat main
grizzled patrol
i just dont get it
why tf do the beginners always try tro push the reactor waves further from them
civic wave
because they don't understand reactor spawn mechanics or the consequences of timing
narrow niche
why tf do the beginners always try tro push the reactor waves further from them
i <3 delayed waves
ocean spindle
i try maybe it's just skill issue but i always land it first try on bat maybe im...
knife hitbox comes from the corner so it's weirdv unlike bat that hits from the side
with enough practice u just learn to hit it with the late hitbox
little brook
Testing out the spear after a rough scout x knife encounter, what are the charge amounts I should know?
little brook
Oh damn
silent delta
max backshot or slightly less for headshot
it has lower base damage than sledge
idk the percentages off the top of my head cuz i dont use spear lmao
ocean spindle
rlly for scouts there's no reason to full charge always
little brook
what abt the precision bonus?
little brook
So a half charge headshot to a standard sleeper should do the trick right?
silent delta
something like that
ocean spindle
yeah
silent delta
idk when im not in a rush i usually go for full or almost full charges anyway
less brain space
ocean spindle
probs less ngl but charging it's weird
charging on this game auments like- what was the word...
cubically ?
brave otter
So a half charge headshot to a standard sleeper should do the trick right?
make sure for shadows you hit their back, too many times have i watched a spear user break an arm off a shadow and it wakes up the entire room because he didnt follow up
ocean spindle
i don't think they are there yet
little brook
im still in rundown 1 but when the time comes I wont be the spear user waking up the whole room 🫡
ocean spindle
i mean just some enemies u can full charge cause there's no need to not do it
scouts, the r1c2 enemies u might know already...
little brook
i don't think they are there yet
Yeah i'm still getting major anxiety from scouts so 😭
not that far into the game
silent delta
its great for new players cuz the longer melee range helps you learn how to stealth in safety
but once you get a bit better its heavily outclassed by sledge
ocean spindle
yeah it's a very good learning melee but u eventually outclass it
silent delta
Yeah i'm still getting major anxiety from scouts so 😭
not that far into the gam...
you'll get there!
keep at it!
i believe
little brook
Ugh I miss the sledge, being able to bop sleepers so quickly was heavenly
silent delta
i mean just some enemies u can full charge cause there's no need to not do it
sc...
ik it charges cubically, is half charge still 10 damage
for sledge
ocean spindle
Ugh I miss the sledge, being able to bop sleepers so quickly was heavenly
why not use it
silent delta
sledge best melee i will not be taking criticism
ocean spindle
ik it charges cubically, is half charge still 10 damage
idk it's weird
little brook
why not use it
cus I keep getting curb stomped by giants in r1c2
I need the range bonus
ocean spindle
u can also melee those with hammer but that's fair tbh
silent delta
hammer is slightly more risky
ocean spindle
once u get practice with spear on those too u can swap
silent delta
because if the giant does a silly and just decides he doesnt feel like staggering, you do have a moment when you're in his melee range
brave otter
knife kill a giant
ocean spindle
both hammer and spear have kinda low stagger in general
it's just the range on the spear
little brook
Im in zone 91c r1c2 rn and there's 2 giants right next to eachother + a small hoard 🥲
silent delta
which is staggers
narrow niche
both hammer and spear have kinda low stagger in general
my hammer stagger </3
silent delta
Im in zone 91c r1c2 rn and there's 2 giants right next to eachother + a small ho...
are you solo?
little brook
Yeah
silent delta
no bots?
brave otter
scattergun?
silent delta
yikes
narrow niche
hammer still has 2nd best stagger though so
silent delta
melee what you can and then shoot the rest
narrow niche
of melees
keen path
Just shoot em
ocean spindle
uh pull and shoot with sentries or mine the door
tardy ingot
im still in rundown 1 but when the time comes I wont be the spear user waking up...
just dont be the spear user 
little brook
Nah I got this, I needa make myself useful with melee for when my friends play this next
ocean spindle
i hate summer
:[
little brook
my kit kat has melted all over everywhere
Aweful experience
silent delta
Nah I got this, I needa make myself useful with melee for when my friends play t...
||if you want to be useful with melee don't run spear||
tardy ingot
I need the range bonus
- 2 players (both with sledge preferably, but any combo works) decimate giants
- you can alwaays shoot them. Remember, double dmg from behind -> fast and efficient kills
silent delta
fluffy what guns do u got
tardy ingot
Nah I got this, I needa make myself useful with melee for when my friends play t...
thats why you dont pick spear
little brook
||if you want to be useful with melee don't run spear||
pfft, what should I run? (i'm hearing sledge)
lone mortar
just dont be the spear user <:KEKW:850702156171706413>
Why would u say that
ocean spindle
sledge
silent delta
sledge is good
little brook
sledge it is
little brook
Bat is faster right?
ocean spindle
knife is awesome
silent delta
it has potential but its not consistent
little brook
I loved the speed of the knife
tardy ingot
because if the giant does a silly and just decides he doesnt feel like staggerin...
hammer technically outranges giants too
ocean spindle
it has potential but its not consistent
what do u mean, it is
little brook
ooo
lone mortar
Theres so much technical spear users out there
brave otter
knife is good for a lot of small guys
silent delta
hammer technically outranges giants too <:d4rkevLUL:1258911721486286929>
perhaps i am simply bad then
brave otter
against giants knife is super risky
silent delta
what do u mean, it is
solo a giant wtih it then get back to me
tardy ingot
perhaps i am simply bad then
nah the range difference is marginal at best
near zealot
eh
knife is very good its just hard but bat is mega underrated bc it saves room wakeups when no other weapon does
silent delta
yeah i know
tardy ingot
Why would you say spear bad eva
i am only saying the truth
silent delta
but because it's hard its not consistent
lone mortar
i am only saying the truth
No truth
tardy ingot
knife is very good its just hard but bat is mega underrated bc it saves room wak...
its the easiest to do so since brainless left click spam works
ocean spindle
solo a giant wtih it then get back to me
that's not knife being inconsistent it's the giant being inconsistent
lone mortar
I see ppl who have done good with it in team plays
brave otter
knife is very good its just hard but bat is mega underrated bc it saves room wak...
just pull the room on 20% health and go crazy
lone mortar
Even in R5E1
lone mortar
Woo hoo
silent delta
its just outclassed
little brook
ocean spindle
its just outclassed
not rlly, no other melee is as fast as it
tardy ingot
I see ppl who have done good with it in team plays
you can do good with slug, sniper, shotgun sentry and spear
silent delta
not rlly, no other melee is as fast as it
im talking about spear
lone mortar
you can do good with slug, sniper, shotgun sentry and spear
Ok not slug
silent delta
also, side note
ocean spindle
i vote bat cause it has very high stagger
silent delta
anyone can make polls in this channel?
lone mortar
That shit garbage
silent delta
since when?
ocean spindle
im talking about spear
oh sorry
near zealot
its the easiest to do so since brainless left click spam works
yessir and it works on chargers with just a bit of charge which is big money, it even works on bbc im pretty sure with full charge
silent delta
bat is on paper the most versatile
quick charge, good against smalls, good against giants
lone mortar
Also eva the R8A2 vid
silent delta
i needa restart anyways so Ima try a giant with a spear
godspeed young one
i believe
tardy ingot
yessir and it works on chargers with just a bit of charge which is big money, it...
you dont even need to charge vs chargers to stagger either
issue is just that their melee is kinda instant
lone mortar
How tf did you all get through the nightmare wave that quick?
tardy ingot
hammer has higher skill cap
lone mortar
Did you pull them in and run pass them?
tardy ingot
How tf did you all get through the nightmare wave that quick?
run
silent delta
ive had some newbies tell me that they like sledge but it charges too slow for them
little brook
YO I DID IT
silent delta
which idk maybe they just arent precharging enough but the bat is almost twice as fast
WOO
little brook
Got hit once tho
silent delta
GOOD SHIT FLUFFY
lone mortar
But wheres the wave and scout wave
silent delta
hey, its a starting point
civic wave
How tf did you all get through the nightmare wave that quick?
what nightmare wave where
lone mortar
I didnt see anything
silent delta
just make sure you stay back while you're charging, then walk forward to swing before backing off again
also make sure ur first hit is the back of the head if you arent already
tardy ingot
But wheres the wave and scout wave
spawn cap lol
we have alarm cap from the alarm (well some of it) then spawned in scout waves
civic wave
just watch my pov if you want to see me swerve around 3 nightmare scouts and like 6 strikers
lone mortar
spawn cap lol
we have alarm cap from the alarm (well some of it) then spawned in...
Ah
tardy ingot
honestly the run before that where all 3 of you died goat
i had the perfect pov of the full wave
went from 90 hp to 5 real quick
lone mortar
That explains the reason why i only saw the shot gun barrage of nightmare scouts
tardy ingot
the potato barrage was the best
lone mortar
It was
near zealot
you dont even need to charge vs chargers to stagger either
issue is just that t...
the melee is pretty disgusting but im def taking the hit if it means the whole charger room doesnt wake bc that's mission ending
lone mortar
After that was kinda mid
But still
Good time save on alarm tho
I didnt see who was planting mines so
Props to them
lone mortar
Ah yes
tardy ingot
the melee is pretty disgusting but im def taking the hit if it means the whole c...
yea
civic wave
good counterpick for first zone
lone mortar
My beloved ppl
civic wave
i rate 4 snipers highly
brave otter
4 snipers in r2b2
at least everything dies in 1 shot
lone mortar
And spout loving words to them
lone mortar
at least everything dies in 1 shot
narrow niche
damn
lone mortar
wipe on 1st alarm
You see the appeal here right?
No one can resist the sniper
Even if its dog water
brave otter
imma be starting runs into r8 tonight any missions to prepare for, or are we gonna be fine until a2?
lone mortar
lone mortar
imma be starting runs into r8 tonight any missions to prepare for, or are we gon...
Well
There is alot to unpack
And as usuals
Go figure out yourself
Itll be much more rewarding and fun 
brave otter
we've beat everything pe up to this point so it cant be too bad until the second portion of r8 right
narrow niche
imma be starting runs into r8 tonight any missions to prepare for, or are we gon...
everything should be easy on the first half
tardy ingot
imma be starting runs into r8 tonight any missions to prepare for, or are we gon...
just speedrun r8a2
narrow niche
^
lone mortar
just speedrun r8a2
Really?
narrow niche
we've beat everything pe up to this point so it cant be too bad until the second...
honestly you should be fine for even the 2nd portion
esp with b4 nerf
:c
lone mortar
I love you but f you at the same time
tardy ingot
but ye
overall
C2 is gonna be the first big difficulty hurdle even with knowledge
the others you just need to learn
tardy ingot
so they may be difficult with noticeable mistakes or lacking strategies
narrow niche
C2 is gonna be the first big difficulty hurdle even with knowledge
c2 should be fine lmao
maybe im overestimating though
tardy ingot
c2 should be fine lmao
its a challenge, but not hard
narrow niche
hm
lone mortar
Not everyday you get to yoink meds from some1 and have the same guy carry on extract fight
I miss artek
The first of many pillars of the “wall of text” to fall
little brook
Nah I got 2 giants basically touching rn 😔
lone mortar
Soon this place will crumble too
tardy ingot
Nah I got 2 giants basically touching rn 😔
shoot 
if theres other enemies in the room, kill those first
little brook
Aiming rn 🫡
lone mortar
shoot <:florkShrug1:911745490033442846>
I wonder what eva will play or do when gtfo is gone
tardy ingot
you mean like any of the other games ive played
lone mortar
you mean like any of the other games ive played
Idk you tell me, my steam shows up you aint doin anything else
narrow niche
you mean like any of the other games ive played
you play other games?
lone mortar
Not much to speculate here
little brook
Ya'll legs or back of the head first
brave otter
head
little brook
Thank you
tardy ingot
Idk you tell me, my steam shows up you aint doin anything else
well ive been busy since may lol
tardy ingot
you play other games?
ive mega grinded league, hearthstone, overwatch, fallout games, soulslikes, outlast/alien isolation, subnauticas etc
brave otter
go grind calamity infernum on terraria
little brook
Damn the hel rifle hits hard
lone mortar
ive mega grinded league, hearthstone, overwatch, fallout games, soulslikes, outl...
Helldive no deaths 100% speedrun when?
tardy ingot
occu first
no
lone mortar
0 deaths is really doable but time save is insanely hard to make it through
brave otter
Helldive no deaths 100% speedrun when?
helldive diff was honestly pretty easy, people complained too much about it being too hard
tardy ingot
Ya'll legs or back of the head first
with most guns you dont aim fo the head on giant strikers
the reason is that they have a considerably low head crit multiplier of 1,5x
that together with most guns having a crit multi of below 1x means most guns will only do like 10% more dmg on the head. Which legit doesnt matter
hel rifle for example does 30. Giant strikers have 120 hp. So 4 shots from the front
if behind (2x dmg) its 2 shots
helldivers became too metagamed for me once you hit 8+
lone mortar
helldive diff was honestly pretty easy, people complained too much about it bein...
Do martale then if youre so sure
brave otter
wait did they add a new diff?
lone mortar
Not new diff
But the positioning, no weather and good cover makes it very hard to not be backshotted by 6 rocket devas
brave otter
ah
lone mortar
Its not about the diff
brave otter
the fun of being shot from like 100 meters by like 30 rockets
brave otter
yup i remeber that bug
lone mortar
And they can shoot inside them out to you
Its still there 
Imagine getting peppered by 2 gatling devas or a factory strider guns from the wall
brave otter
i stopped playing helldivers because i maxed out everything in like a week, did like 100 hours in like 5 days and all everyone wanted to do was the morter farming which was boring af
topaz anvil
Sometimes games be like that
brave otter
and theyd hit max level then try to join my helldives and would lose like 15 lives because they thought that just because they're max level they could do what they wnat
lone mortar
i stopped playing helldivers because i maxed out everything in like a week, did ...
I switch in between
Just chill in every experience
Elden ring and helldivers are good training for one to totally get rid of the panic roll
tardy ingot
they asked for guns id assume
considering we just talked about shooting giants
but ye with melee obviously occi (unless in a team situation, then it sometimes depends)
narrow niche
they asked for guns id assume
oh
:P
i just read "occu or leg first"
which was
certainly a message
little brook
Do big strikers always wake up a whole room or do they need to call aswell?
civic wave
every enemy needs to scream to wake an entire room
tardy ingot
their scream animation just doesnt usually happen
so they kinda just weirdly stand still and scream/groan
little brook
Ok so I prolly wasn't stunning it fast enough
tardy ingot
yea complete solo stealthily takes practice
but it also isnt rly necessary
2 players can easily stealth anything if they have the space
little brook