No walking
#gtfo-related-questions
digital mural
narrow niche
which is just terrible
silent delta
my ctrl keycap has been removed from my keyboard
civic wave
yea like I can play slower in a lobby if someone wants me to but it's insufferable syncing everything before going for any melee kill
silent delta
ive been in lobbies where theres like two shooters and thats it in a room and if either of them starts glowing everyone has to stop immediately, regardless of where they are in the room
narrow niche
me when i micromanage a whole lobby just so no one has fun
hazy wedge
Goat can we sync melee kill charger scouts or can I blast it with a mine deployer 😏
silent delta
or needing to get two people together to "ensure" charger kills
narrow niche
Goat can we sync melee kill charger scouts or can I blast it with a mine deploye...
backshotting with mine deployer?
hazy wedge
Backshots 😩
narrow niche
:3
civic wave
if you can shoot at the same time mine goes off or use 2 mines, you can do that
always down for a good sync melee though
tardy ingot
its actually a fun run
hard nexus
No I wanted you to scold me for mtg
fleet niche
The problem was just fixed, my friend just tried to get into the game after uninstalling and reinstalling it and it worked out just fine and he is currently doing the tutorial
silent delta
what is ifo
narrow niche
No I wanted you to scold me for mtg
why... exactly do you want me scolding you?
that
i
:/
hard nexus
Kekw
silent delta
why... exactly do you want me scolding you?
oh is this not a fucking safe space all of a sudden
narrow niche
was it ever
narrow niche
<3
narrow niche
not with some of the people here
thank me later
silent delta
mhm
narrow niche
<3
muted creek
frens what gun do you guys recommend
and melee weapons
digital mural
frens what gun do you guys recommend
and melee weapons
melees:
knife for fast kills
hammer for overall combat
bat has amazing stagger
spear is in the game
narrow niche
frens what gun do you guys recommend
and melee weapons
for primary
meta rn is like
hel revo hel shotty
digital mural
for special: normal shotgun, combat shotgun, hel rifle, hel gun, scatter, machine guns are decent for newbies
hazy wedge
The meta is burst pistol and short rifle gaming 🤑
narrow niche
NO
silent delta
frens what gun do you guys recommend
and melee weapons
for starting out i find sledge to be the most consistent, but you should also try knife and bat yeah
spear is ok as a pair of training wheels for newer players because of hte increased range, but its not as viable as the others at higher play
muted creek
hel revo hel shotty
both hell weapon?
ocean spindle
hel weapons are very useful
digital mural
both hell weapon?
btw all hel weapons are good
narrow niche
^
muted creek
btw all hel weapons are good
okkk
ocean spindle
some r just situational, like on very long ranges hel shottie might be a lil awkward
narrow niche
carbine is just good statwise
ocean spindle
but if u got ur team backing up
narrow niche
not the most interesting gun
ocean spindle
u shouldn't have many issues
narrow niche
dmr requires more aim
ocean spindle
heavy smg and smg are basic and not as good as the semis but they work well as full auto options if u like em
muted creek
so what is the best weapon for r1 floors
ocean spindle
sawed off shotgun is rlly easy to use and very very fun while big dmg
digital mural
so what is the best weapon for r1 floors
anything works
muted creek
like decennt damage
ocean spindle
so what is the best weapon for r1 floors
really anything, it's ur time to experiment
silent delta
so what is the best weapon for r1 floors
there isnt really a "best weapon"
narrow niche
hel revo
silent delta
if you're looking for just good consistent damage, probably a shotgun or the high cal
digital mural
like decennt damage
play R1 while you experiment with guns
use everything
ocean spindle
just try out weapons, see what works see what u like what u enjoy
soft crater
there isnt really a "best weapon"
"Thomas had never seen such bs before"
silent delta
fight me solace
narrow niche
"Thomas had never seen such bs before"
me when im hel revo
digital mural
hel revo yeah
narrow niche
fight me solace
you would lose
digital mural
hel revo is just good in everything
silent delta
hel revo is one of the best mains
ocean spindle
hel revo is just good in everything
ermmm sooo runs with 70 giants sawed offs getter smh smh
narrow niche
no question
ocean spindle
solo runs *
silent delta
i think hel shotty gives it a run for its money
ocean spindle
:3
ocean spindle
i think hel shotty gives it a run for its money
same
silent delta
just because as good as you are at aiming you will still beef sometimes
narrow niche
i think hel shotty gives it a run for its money
only in certain situations
digital mural
ermmm sooo runs with 70 giants sawed offs getter smh smh
i love my 3 barrel shotgun having 4 pellets
silent delta
and hel shotty is a lot more forgiving when that happens
ocean spindle
i think hel shottie and hel revo are pretty much on pair but hel shottie is even better situationally
silent delta
i love my 3 barrel shotgun having 4 pellets
unusable gun
ocean spindle
depends
narrow niche
that
digital mural
narrow niche
eh
narrow niche
@turbid horizon
soft crater
Just let it be known. There is a reason practically all renditions of AR in modded. The gun is buffed in someway or form.
turbid horizon
really the assault rifle is the best main in the game
it’s terrible ;-;
I love it
but it’s terrible
narrow niche
ly dak
silent delta
i love how it handles
turbid horizon
JusticeForLX
turbid horizon
yeah
silent delta
do anything
turbid horizon
yeah
silent delta
i like it when my guns do things
turbid horizon
and that’s why I gave it 2.9 dmg
silent delta
yeah
narrow niche
theres like no recoil
none of the main weapons have recoil
turbid horizon
and a slightly slower firerate
soft crater
samdown gave it pen
silent delta
none of the main weapons have recoil
many of the main weapons have recoil
narrow niche
not really
turbid horizon
none of the main weapons have recoil
Objection - Swed off, slug, DTR, DMR
soft crater
many of the main weapons have recoil
Eh
narrow niche
Objection - Swed off, slug, DTR, DMR
recoil that matters
silent delta
pdw, smg
turbid horizon
that recoil fucking matters lol
silent delta
pdw has some
narrow niche
wait dreadnaught let me send you something
soft crater
Only guns I actively need to control are MGs/burst cannon/HAR
silent delta
ive used it often
turbid horizon
no
soft crater
Which are all specials.
ocean spindle
pdw is recoil on sights but wonderful hipfiring
narrow niche
Only guns I actively need to control are MGs/burst cannon/HAR
^
soft crater
soft crater
narrow niche
Is that even as bad as
youve watched the video right?
soft crater
Like once
Before I went to knock out in bed
I didn't pay attention enough to see where the bullets went
livid relic
New here, played a few missions with bots and a few more with people..
What I'm wondering is, how on earth do people melee clear so fast without waking everything up? When I play with people I'm always lagging way behind because they walk right up and start smacking heads. If I do the same thing, I invariably get long range aggro -> screams -> whole room awake
I watched some stealth guides and they explain all the mechanics and I can stealth clear rooms v e r y s l o w l y, but is there anything on how to go faster?
frail heart
Basically getting used to the sleeping mechanics and knowing when it’s good to kill stuff
narrow niche
New here, played a few missions with bots and a few more with people..
What I'm...
getting used to it
digital mural
a lot of practice
livid relic
Is there any particular way people practice that or just play a lot?
upper ginkgo
you can just drop into levels solo and start stealth clearing rooms
the goal is kill everything in the room without waking it up
narrow niche
^
ocean spindle
New here, played a few missions with bots and a few more with people..
What I'm...
if people are just straight up not letting u stealth that's a carry, and u should ask against it so they let u play at ur own pace
but yes that just go into a mission alone and try to stealth as much as possible
learn the ins and outs and then think of ways to optimize when u feel ur good
grizzled patrol
if people are just straight up not letting u stealth that's a carry, and u shoul...
idk man, for long run it does not feel like a good advise. That will last only a couple of levels and will be ended with a rude awakening
i think it should be at high pace, but most of the carries dont bother to explain why they are doing certain things
ocean spindle
i think it should be at high pace, but most of the carries dont bother to explai...
no yeah that's a key difference
one thing is getting explained things
getting a teacher, learning, experimenting
and another one very different is dropping into a level blind and not even knowing the objective until 70% of it
not being explained, just telling them where to put the sentry and that's it...
that's two very different concepts
silent delta
Is there any particular way people practice that or just play a lot?
i mean the basics are that if two enemies are within about 3 meters of each other, the other will wake up if you kill one of them, but if you start charging a second hit immediately you can comfortable kill both without waking any of them up.
if an enemy thats farther away is glowing or gooshing when you go for a kill, then theres a chance they can wake up from long range aggro.
and then the rest of it is just playing a lot and getting comfortable with wakeup cooldowns and enemy glow cycles/manipulation
grizzled patrol
if people are just straight up not letting u stealth that's a carry, and u shoul...
didnt write till the end, but i wanted to add that its better to ask at first what they are doing, and if they dont cooperate ask them to leave
ocean spindle
i meaaan sure
i think u can just ask too in the beginning
either way it's the same thing if they don't wanna cooperate j the ey leave if they do they stay and slow down
soft crater
the goal is kill everything in the room without waking it up
Wake rooms > long kite > die > repeat
hidden ridge
Is there any particular way people practice that or just play a lot?
Drop in R1B1, try to clear ALL the room without waking the whole room up
Also, 2 not obvious things that help are: 1- Abuse enemy wake up animation, remember, even if the animation makes them turn around, as along as they are in mid-animation, they actually didnt move. 2- ALWAYS try to get behind something, especially if you've woke it up accidentally.
Of course the obvious applies, get hammer, try to aim for the head...
Remember, for back damage, the only thing that matter is enemy orientation related to your position when you "release" the melee
Hammer is very lenient and you can just full hit body a striker to get rid of it, or occiput (head from the back) tap a shooter
livid stone
Is there any particular way people practice that or just play a lot?
Play pubs and see how pubbies fuck up ordinary things to develop a mistake free mindset
soft crater
Play pubs and see how pubbies fuck up ordinary things to develop a mistake free ...
Goddammit. Bishop woke up the room again.
zinc laurel
thank you 🥰
narrow niche
Goddammit. Bishop woke up the room again.
Can't believe the bots
stone talon
Just got them from R8B2. It's UUT75-VKBH1. We'll go for R8A2 later.
jagged shore
narrow niche
Lmao
nimble bough
is anybody willing to run a R1C1 with us. We have a group of three but need a fourth
narrow niche
is anybody willing to run a R1C1 with us. We have a group of three but need a fo...
I know what I must do
But
Can I do it
narrow niche
is anybody willing to run a R1C1 with us. We have a group of three but need a fo...
.t lfg
uneven gulchBOT
is anybody willing to run a R1C1 with us. We have a group of three but need a fo...
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nimble bough
Thank you sorry still new to the discord
narrow niche
Thank you sorry still new to the discord
Nws
That's what the command is for after all
slate patio
Any tips on R1c1 with 2 people and 2 bots?
We tried lfg yesterday, but while one guy worked with us, the other... let's just say i prefer bishop
tiny wyvern
Any tips on R1c1 with 2 people and 2 bots?
We tried lfg yesterday, but while one...
Have better strats and weapon choices
And remember you're supposed to kill them before they get to you, rather than get clear shots
You don't have infinite ammo on that level, but you really shouldn't worry about ammo--there's a lot
slate patio
Have better strats and weapon choices
any weapon recommendations then?
tiny wyvern
any weapon recommendations then?
Depends on how well you hit your shots tbh
If you can make it work with precision, double tap rifles and dmrs, as well as hel weapons in special slot work
Give bots stuff like machine guns (not the burst cannon, that's a different thing)
So they don't backshot you
If you have bad aim, just avoid shotguns and pistols for this mission unless you know how to use them
They want their targets to be close, which is where you really don't want them to be for reactors
slate patio
thanks
slate patio
the bridge with the car in the room you enter trough the hole in the wall
ocean spindle
the bridge with the car in the room you enter trough the hole in the wall
if ur not using sentries this is a sentry level, give the biotracker to a bot and take 2 bursts and one sniper sentry or even 3 bursts depending on how much u wanna focus bigs
u can also save a sentry for the first waves
and i also would recommend one of u to go with a heavy weapon like a burst cannon, a hel rifle, or something like that to focus big guys if possible
hidden ridge
that's the best spot
cue to the trillion of pubs that want to resist at the other breach in the wall making it more annoying for code guy
soft crater
Me defending at the first security door be like
stiff hearth
Is 2 mines in blood doors really worth it?
tiny wyvern
Is 2 mines in blood doors really worth it?
Which blood door?
stiff hearth
Yes
tiny wyvern
Like a blood door in general?
soft crater
Generally no.
tiny wyvern
Why would you put two mines?
Do you have a lot of spares?
If you do you can, but you don't need two to kill the normal sleepers
One will do
stiff hearth
Why would you put two mines?
Do you have a lot of spares?
Hybrids
tiny wyvern
Just shoot the hybrid
hazy wedge
I use 1/2 of a mine on a bd
tiny wyvern
Like if you're in a rundown that doesn't need a lot of mines, you can use 2
But normally, on budget, use 1
stiff hearth
Idk sometimes it seems that 2 mines just Cook everything and sometimes it dont do anything
fallen kite
Idk sometimes it seems that 2 mines just Cook everything and sometimes it dont d...
Thats because the enemies dont only consist of the blood door enemies, there can also be a lot of enemies actually sleeping in the room the blood door leads to
in which case 1 vs 2 mines doesnt feel very different
tiny wyvern
^
tiny wyvern
Ye but those are special blood doors
Which are special
civic wave
if there are big enemies behind the door and you have the tool you might as well spend some extra mines
civic wave
even if there aren't big enemeis, if you can spare the tool then you can place extra mines to blow more enemies up
whether they came from the door itself or the room
tiny wyvern
Just mine in in such a way they don't both explode at once
fallen kite
whether they came from the door itself or the room
👍 true
tiny wyvern
and you'll get milleage out of two
Don't do double stacks on the hole of the blood doors
stiff hearth
Some blood doors have scripted sleeping enemies that wake up? Because I'm sure(I have clip) once I mined blood door, opened it with scout right in front, the mine exploded and didn't wake up scout or any sleepers
It was r5b2
frail heart
mines dont wake up other rooms
civic wave
nothing screamed, mine was outside of room and has radius of 20 metres
stiff hearth
Also worked in the 2 blood doors in the entrance so idk
narrow niche
Also worked in the 2 blood doors in the entrance so idk
Nothing screamed prolly
tiny wyvern
Mines are like gunshots right?
narrow niche
Can't pull other rooms iirc
ocean spindle
Mines are like gunshots right?
no, it's 30 meters i think and only alert enemies in ur room
civic wave
20 metres
ocean spindle
:[
fringe belfry
is there a image/guide out there showing the occiput hitboxes for the common enemies
hazy wedge
Isn’t there one on the wiki 
civic wave
Occiput is just head when you are positioned behind the enemy, there is no occipital "hitbox", it just becomes the entire head
tardy ingot
hit head and be behind enemy
fringe belfry
so without exception the back of the head is the occiput
and every time the wiki mentions the "occiput" its means "back of head"
past mesa
so without exception the back of the head is the occiput
and every time the wiki...
yeah
digital mural
yes
ashen frigate
The GTFO% run is going too slow for him
civic wave
poor jish, scans are the enemy
hidden ridge
so without exception the back of the head is the occiput
and every time the wiki...
think about it like head FROM the back
fallen kite
think about it like head FROM the back
do enemies have individual angles for what counts as being behind them?
ocean spindle
i don't believe so
not for the normal ones at least for sure
then stuff like ||snatchers or etc|| i'm not sure
fallen kite
not for the normal ones at least for sure
i've had some scenarios where I was like
off to the side of a giant but barely behind him
if that makes sense
and didnt get back damage
so theres some cut off point before 90 degrees ( 90 being where you're directly beside the enemy )
i'm curious as to what that is
@native sun do you have an answer big brain man
ocean spindle
it doesn't cut off
what i believe happens it's it decreases with the angle
the more to the side the less back dmg u deal alongside it
it's a %, not a black and white kind of thing from what i understand
fallen kite
the more to the side the less back dmg u deal alongside it
so there is unironically back damage falloff as you get more beside an enemy
that's really interesting
ocean spindle
that's why sometimes hel rifle or whatev other 30 dmg gun doesn't oneshot ||cscouts||
fallen kite
i've never thought of it like that
fallen kite
that's why sometimes hel rifle or whatev other 30 dmg gun doesn't oneshot ||csco...
it's also why ppl tell you to get directly behind it
that's cool stuff
ocean spindle
yes, straight in the back unless u have sniper cause it has 40 instead of 30
i'm pretty sure that's how it works
fallen kite
i'm pretty sure that's how it works
i hope someone crunches numbers for this eventually
wait
i'm 90% sure tru had occiput angles in his spreadsheet of the guns
ocean spindle
uh i remember something like that
fallen kite
yh I found it
its there
yh hel rifle and high cal are like
40 degrees
for one shot cscout
omg I learned something today waow
civic wave
there is quite literally a page for back damage on the wiki that explains all of this
written by tru, i believe
fallen kite
there is quite literally a page for back damage on the wiki that explains all of...
well unfortunately goat I haven't decided to read into the details of back damage on the gtfo wiki
it was just a thought while I was scrolling through this channel
fallen kite
definitely, but I'm not interested- i get the gist now
native sun
<@233838146901508097> do you have an answer big brain man
Here's an answer I prepared earlier: https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier
narrow niche
LMAO
native sun
TLDR: What Goat and Slendo said
tiny wyvern
And that's why there's only one gun in the game that always can backshot, right?
native sun
And that's why there's only one gun in the game that always can backshot, right?
Backshot which enemy..?
tiny wyvern
Scouts I think
native sun
Scattergun and Burst Cannon can both always back-shot every scout because they can also both always front-shot them
(Except Nightmare Scout, which is only Scattergun, but that requires both tumor + backdamage)
narrow niche
And that's why there's only one gun in the game that always can backshot, right?
?
why would
tiny wyvern
Exactly which part are you confused by?
narrow niche
wdym only one gun that can always backshot
tiny wyvern
wdym only one gun that can always backshot
Oh most guns in this game have certain angles to backshot I think
And only two can do it at any range and at any angle
I think that was what it goes by
narrow niche
is back multi not the same for every gun lmao
i mean knife has an extra multi on top for back i guess
native sun
Oh most guns in this game have certain angles to backshot I think
And only two c...
I think you might be thinking about the extra column I had for the range where an Occiput shot kills, which also factors in damage falloff.
tiny wyvern
Yeah my memory is getting terrible these days
narrow niche
:P
ocean spindle
does a normal alarm spawn about the same enemies as a scout?
turbid horizon
does a normal alarm spawn about the same enemies as a scout?
yeah basically
ocean spindle
ik its 12 for a scout so how much is for an alarm?
turbid horizon
idk check survival wave settings id 1
tardy ingot
does a normal alarm spawn about the same enemies as a scout?
no scout wave is less
a normal alarm wave starts out at ~50% more and ends up at over twice as much
dawn sigil
Hello frens
I'm having trouble with R2C2, any recommendations on which guns/tools the bots should be carrying?
digital mural
Hello frens
I'm having trouble with R2C2, any recommendations on which guns/tool...
bots do pretty good with burst rifle and machineguns
tools a biotracker
dawn sigil
I tried those but it seems like they lack DPS enough for those blood doors
digital mural
I tried those but it seems like they lack DPS enough for those blood doors
use mines
tiny wyvern
Use a mine for the blood doors
digital mural
place a mine on the blood door
tiny wyvern
We usually do
digital mural
that will kill all or most enemies
dawn sigil
Or I'm just bad, that isn't out of the picture
ocean spindle
yeah 2 sentries is nice
digital mural
burst sentries
ocean spindle
u just gotta see where the bot stands
digital mural
in all the times i have used foam bot
they always miss
ocean spindle
skill issue
digital mural
EVEN IF THEY ARE INFRONT OF THE DOOR
ocean spindle
i played bots enough to know how to use it
digital mural
skill issue
truly a kill issue of mine
dawn sigil
I'll try again after breathing a little bit, that level will give me nightmares
digital mural
I'll try again after breathing a little bit, that level will give me nightmares
fair enough
its the introduction to error alarms
dawn sigil
I haven't seen a bot miss the foam tho
digital mural
it can be rough for newbies
ocean spindle
I'll try again after breathing a little bit, that level will give me nightmares
it is just a very big wall with bots ngl
this or d2 its probs ur cue to search up a team either with ur friends or the LFG in this server
but c2 it's still possible
digital mural
I haven't seen a bot miss the foam tho
good luck person with a russian names that speaks spanish
and is speaking english
ocean spindle
I haven't seen a bot miss the foam tho
they shoot from their position, so if they aren't uh front of the door they can miss
dawn sigil
I play with some friends but they couldn't join today big_sad
digital mural
I play with some friends but they couldn't join today *big_sad*
you can alwys use the LFG system to find people
ocean spindle
more so the problem in this level it's just foam isn't really that necessary and specially with bots cause they are slow with it
ocean spindle
I play with some friends but they couldn't join today *big_sad*
well this is good practice then ksks
maybe even consider dropping in completely alone
and just meleeing enemies
to practice killing the waves without using any ammo
dawn sigil
That's the other, bots really suck at protecting while someone carries a cell
digital mural
Yeah
Bots are dumb most of the time
gloomy charm
is there a way to matchmake specific rundowns?
ocean spindle
is there a way to matchmake specific rundowns?
ingame matchmaking no
digital mural
is there a way to matchmake specific rundowns?
You could make a lobby
ocean spindle
but with the LFG yes
digital mural
And post in LFG
dawn sigil
It's not uncommon they just can't kill a damn shooter while I carry the damn cell
uneven gulchBOT
thanks
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ocean spindle
It's not uncommon they just can't kill a damn shooter while I carry the damn cel...
depending on the gun might be funky but if u just run straight through the enemies and like going around them should be fine
gloomy charm
k
ocean spindle
k
also
make sure everyone in ur lobby is in ur vc
and if u haven't done the tutorial go ahead, and start on rundown 1 cause it's the simplest one
dawn sigil
Yeah, luckily some shooters aren't that big of a deal, it's just the hybrids in the blood doors
digital mural
mines will take care of them
dont worry
not really kill them but it will leave them with low HP
ocean spindle
not mines, more so ur guns
dawn sigil
Then I'm having bad luck, always one or even 2 of them shred the bots
ocean spindle
when one runs with bots ur always the heavy weapons person
digital mural
not mines, more so ur guns
thats why i said the HP thing slendo
digital mural
Then I'm having bad luck, always one or even 2 of them shred the bots
waht guns are you using
ocean spindle
thats why i said the HP thing slendo
not low hp either?
50 out of 150 it's still 100
which is the hp of a giant minus 20
digital mural
50 out of 150 it's still 100
its lower than max HP
ocean spindle
well of course but not low
dawn sigil
waht guns are you using
I tried the carbine and the shotgun
ocean spindle
that's a good combo
digital mural
hel rifle
hel gun
high cal?
can help with range
ocean spindle
high cal has the same range pretty much but i guess
tiny wyvern
carbine and shotgun both excel in close range is what I'm trying to say
dawn sigil
I love highcal, but the ammo goes down the drain so fast
ocean spindle
carbine and shotgun both excel in close range is what I'm trying to say
carbines good at all ranges tbh except like omega far away
tiny wyvern
I love highcal, but the ammo goes down the drain so fast
That's probs cause you're using it wrong
Or you're using it right, and you're just not used to its ammo consumptions
gloomy charm
when matchmaking do i have to copy a link to a voice chat or its it automatic
tiny wyvern
carbines good at all ranges tbh except like omega far away
Yeah, but most of the time they miss half the burst to the range
tiny wyvern
when matchmaking do i have to copy a link to a voice chat or its it automatic
Don't matchmake normally for lfg
digital mural
use LFG
then you post: how many people you need, lobby code, level, voice chat link
ocean spindle
Yeah, but most of the time they miss half the burst to the range
that's more so recoil control and aiming for a bodyshot which isn't bad with carbine
dawn sigil
Alright then
Talking around here is actually kinda refreshing
Thanks, I'll go eat something and go again
tiny wyvern
Alright then
Talking around here is actually kinda refreshing
Thanks, I'll go ea...
Good luck
ocean spindle
Alright then
Talking around here is actually kinda refreshing
Thanks, I'll go ea...
enjoy ur noms
digital mural
Alright then
Talking around here is actually kinda refreshing
Thanks, I'll go ea...
no problemo
if you need anything just ask
we dont bite
sometimes
tiny wyvern
Btw we had a guy in tech support yesterday that thought the game was bugging out on them
Turns out his teammate just tripped the extraction alarm
On R4C2
digital mural
What the fuck
tiny wyvern
I really should've just told him to ask you guys about it
ocean spindle
I really should've just told him to ask you guys about it
wdym i saw everything
i mean i would get it
ocean spindle
How do You reach R4C2 and dont know what a extract alarm is
they were like fuckaway far
they didn't realized
digital mural
Link
ocean spindle
it's just their teammate like doing a funny i would get rlly confused too
ocean spindle
it's not inexperience it's just a mix of coincidences
soft crater
tiny wyvern
Do you still want advice on R2B1 @mental mica
mental mica
yes if possible
tiny wyvern
Well first thing to note is do scans and do prep well
mental mica
tho mines didnt do much
tiny wyvern
You use mines more for when they come from the center rather than the blood doors
mental mica
ye thats what i mean
tiny wyvern
After that its a matter of if your team is good at making things work
mental mica
when i say it didnt do much its not painting the whole story
it killed most the normal strikers
but there was like 8 giants
tiny wyvern
Class 7 means you actually need to shoot stuff and kill them
If you can only stall them then you're going to die
Especially if you don't know how to kite properly
mental mica
how does the wave spawning work?
tiny wyvern
Normally door mines should give you until 3rd or 4th scan to work with the scans
mental mica
is it all directions or just one?
tiny wyvern
They come from where they scream
mental mica
i see
grizzled patrol
i was running 2 sentries a mine deployer and bio scanner
There is an Option to perma foam, but it makes the lvl boring af
tiny wyvern
Well if you don't like cheese, you'll have to kill stuff
If you can't, then might wanna try the cheese if you're in a hurry to go to other R2 missions
grizzled patrol
more so cheesing it
What is "playing a Game" tho
It is how it was Designed to be played
digital mural
Perma foam is cheesing? What
mental mica
defending the wave and not reinforcing 1 door for 5 minutes
grizzled patrol
defending the wave and not reinforcing 1 door for 5 minutes
You defend the Wave by reinforcing tho
narrow niche
defending the wave and not reinforcing 1 door for 5 minutes
then clear the level :P
sorry
mental mica
would 3 sentries be better than 2 and a mine deployer?
tiny wyvern
Nope
mental mica
i know theres quite a few prox mine spawns around
narrow niche
are you having ammo issues before the scan or
narrow niche
i know theres quite a few prox mine spawns around
dont do it
mental mica
no i get overrun
mental mica
with bots
tiny wyvern
Oh
mental mica
challenging myself to solo
mental mica
without players solo
mental mica
il do proper solo after R5 or sum
grizzled patrol
Yeah with Bots sentries and a Mine is the best option
narrow niche
what guns do the bots have
digital mural
Bots work well with burst rifle and machineguns
narrow niche
i trust the bots have bio and not you?
narrow niche
Bots work well with burst rifle and machineguns
^
mental mica
the bot loadout is in media
not shotgun sentry btw
i swapped it back wrong it was sniper
narrow niche
remove sniper
digital mural
Why sniper
digital mural
a bot with sniper is an interesting decision
mental mica
ah
narrow niche
use the better machinegun
digital mural
And that one is?
narrow niche
And that one is?
veruta
what else
also use 2 burst
sniper sentry doesnt get much use
give the bot the bio
take mines
narrow niche
i have the biotracker
give the bot bio
take
mines
trust me
on this
bots are meh with mines
digital mural
Bots are cracked with pings
narrow niche
you are (prolly) meh with bio
mental mica
ye i found that out the hard way yesterday
narrow niche
no offence
narrow niche
hmmm
digital mural
I swear to god
mental mica
is this enough to deal with giants or do i bring highcal or sniper?
narrow niche
^
digital mural
High cal works "fine"
narrow niche
is this enough to deal with giants or do i bring highcal or sniper?
high cal or hel rifle should be enough for giants
or shotgun
hel rifle pens so
digital mural
Normal shotty is really good
mental mica
true but i more often get oneshots than penetration shots
with the sniper vs hel rifle
digital mural
Line up your shots
digital mural
Don't pen shooting at the head
narrow niche
true but i more often get oneshots than penetration shots
you are getting less value
mental mica
ik
narrow niche
dont shoot giant head with hel rifle
mental mica
im talking about trying to oneshot
narrow niche
you cant oneshot with hel rifle
mental mica
ty
grizzled patrol
being head
Heads on Giants barely Deal more damage. Dont bother with them
mental mica
so just shotgun blast them in the chest or in the arm from the side?
narrow niche
so just shotgun blast them in the chest or in the arm from the side?
?
for
giants?
mental mica
i wanted to try the shotgun since someone earlier said it was pretty good here
narrow niche
well
hit it 4 times in the front with full damage
or
hit it twice in the back
full
damage
no headshot
shotgun also has like
a really short reload cancel
and it kills smalls
mental mica
on a different note
any other really usefull terminal commands?
i know query, ping and list
primarily
soft crater
Heads on Giants barely Deal more damage. Dont bother with them
1.0x shotgun moment
45 dmg is 45 dmg. But ofc there are better weapons for that right.
Even then on the off chance you miss pellets. Overkilling with 1 headshot would more than likely guarantee 4 shot kill to the front
narrow niche
1.0x shotgun moment
wait shotgun has 1.0?
lmao
thats hilarious
still
15 dmg isnt worth headshot
also
it wouldnt even be 15 dmg
yk
spread and all
tardy ingot
Especially if you don't know how to kite properly
dont need to kite wtf
also mines do a lot on r2b1. Theres 2 (well 3) blood doors and between 6 and 7 mine able doors for the alarm
tiny wyvern
dont need to kite wtf
also mines do a lot on r2b1. Theres 2 (well 3) blood door...
(well to beginners kiting is just another word for walking while shooting)
(for some reason they can't even do that)
You're right though, it isnt kiting
narrow niche
(well to beginners kiting is just another word for walking while shooting)
lmao
narrow niche
^
narrow niche
dont need to kite wtf
also mines do a lot on r2b1. Theres 2 (well 3) blood door...
if its zone 20 you only have four
:P
doors
i mean
actually do they break every door before the big door?
idr
tardy ingot
(well to beginners kiting is just another word for walking while shooting)
Just say repositioning
Kiting has a very different background in this game tbf
tardy ingot
if its zone 20 you only have four
?
tiny wyvern
Where did that word go when I needed it
tardy ingot
zone 20?
narrow niche
the should only take a maximum of 4 if you open 720
cause
they have to path to the closer door
right?
tardy ingot
the should only take a maximum of 4 if you open 720
??
they spawn 2 rooms away
5 spawn points
tardy ingot
Some rooms have spawns happen less/more often
narrow niche
Some rooms have spawns happen less/more often
does the spawn that would break that door not count as 3 rooms?
tardy ingot
?
minor fractal
does the spawn that would break that door not count as 3 rooms?
That long room right after blood door is one big room.
Big door and small door both connect to it, and are thus the same room distance relative to it.
minor fractal
What are levels w/ a lot of fog repellers, but there isn't actually that much fog?
silent delta
r2d1
stiff hearth
What are levels w/ a lot of fog repellers, but there isn't actually that much fo...
Tier A levels, I dont remember if R4 or R5
wet bear
R7C1🤔
narrow niche
What are levels w/ a lot of fog repellers, but there isn't actually that much fo...
r4c2 hehehe
soft crater
it wouldnt even be 15 dmg
Aside from sniper. What other gun would you shoot at head for dmg
silent delta
burst cannon
narrow niche
Aside from sniper. What other gun would you shoot at head for dmg
not a shotgun
at least
soft crater
Hel rifle is 32.85
silent delta
some of the shotguns no
but i know the s870 has a 1.0 prec multi
i think choke mod does too?
narrow niche
how are you gonna land every s870 shot on the giants head
silent delta
yeah it does
narrow niche
youll lose more damage to spread than gain
silent delta
how are you gonna land every s870 shot on the giants head
you land one for a stagger and free 15 damage
soft crater
not a shotgun
It's for a more consistent 4 shot front next to a guaranteed limb break stagger
narrow niche
It's for a more consistent 4 shot front next to a guaranteed limb break stagger
i mean
i guess
but
eh
tiny wyvern
Funnily enough machine pistol
silent delta
sounds like a skill issue honestly kitty
narrow niche
It's for a more consistent 4 shot front next to a guaranteed limb break stagger
it takes two shots to stagger anyways
:P
if you somehow dont get two shots off on a giant idk
soft crater
it takes two shots to stagger anyways
Or one to the head
Unless you get a torso break
soft crater
or one to the limb
A limb is easier to hit than the head?
silent delta
i dont think head is any harder to hit than a leg
narrow niche
A limb is easier to hit than the head?
in the same vein
why not just hit head with hel rifle?
easy stagger
but why the fuck
soft crater
soft crater
I'd still rather prefer the potential to get one shot over 30 dmg at least.
Otherwise back dmg
narrow niche
I'd still rather prefer the potential to get one shot over 30 dmg at least.
still
soft crater
Though I don't think the original person asking about shotgun would Hammer charge the head into a shotgun back shot
narrow niche
how close would you have to get to get a full headshot
:P
shotguns spread is not great
not that good at least
soft crater
Ifo
narrow niche
maybe with choke
soft crater
How far are you even using shotgun
narrow niche
still
its closer than you need for a clean shot to the body
:P
giant head isnt big
comparitively
silent delta
why not just hit head with hel rifle?
free 2 damage
narrow niche
2.86095 if you wanna be more specific
2.85095
you mistyped
its over for you
mods
the gallows for this one
narrow niche
21.9073
?
wait also what
21.9073?
oh damage
lmao
i used the multi
so it wouldnt be rounded
if it was
silent delta
what does ifo stand for
narrow niche
what does ifo stand for
look at my regular profile
silent delta
what
narrow niche
i was wondering which one it was
what other
silent delta
In Front Of
Income From Operations
Inova Fair Oaks
Integrated Financial Operations
Institute of Financial Operations
Intermediate Fuel Oil
Indian Forensic Organization
International Fighting Organization
narrow niche
In Front Of
do any of these make sense
silent delta
there was very little context
narrow niche
i am not an organization
silent delta
people just said ifo
silent delta
i am not an organization
thats what the government wants you to think
silent delta
sounds like exactly the sort of things a bureau would say
silent delta
also i wasnt clear that they were addressing you
narrow niche
anyways
silent delta
it seemed like people were just saying ifo
narrow niche
it seemed like people were just saying ifo
you are literally what solace mentioned
not knowing im ifo
narrow niche
tyty
silent delta
please god get elected
narrow niche
are you under the age of 80
significantly
like the opposite way
i will have no clue what im doing too
<3
silent delta
that means you're in the same boat as our two current candidates
silent delta
vote ifkitty 2024
narrow niche
also honestly prolly not after the brain worm
silent delta
why can't we get anyone sane and qualified in office like god damn
i know you also dont fall under those descriptors but just like in general
narrow niche
i know you also dont fall under those descriptors but just like in general
im sane
mostly
narrow niche
ⓘ 𝗢𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗲...
the best youre getting
bitch
stop complaining
silent delta
heehee
i mean hey you're better than anyone else on the ballot
you're good at gtfo
thats a skill
i see no skills on any of hte others
near zealot
Is the HEL shotgun a support weapon like the autopistol or is it a strong main damage slot with really good stagger? I feel like I'm using it wrong, it's way harder to pilot than autopistol and I'm not sure if stagger is my focus like auto or just going for kills
And also sometimes my high cal isn't oneshotting on body, is that because of the heavy falloff?
sturdy glen
hel shotgun can be support if you need it to be but it has very good killing power unlike autopistol
also yea high cal fall off sucks
you can aim for head like revo and itll one shot at range from very far
ocean spindle
high cal is 6 meters of range so u won't bodyshot shooters after that
near zealot
you can aim for head like revo and itll one shot at range from very far
okay, ig i got too lax because high cal is easier than mastaba, i wish there was a way to ping ranges out easier, guess i should just go for head if im not confident. Maybe I'll go to precision rifle so i don't mess it up anyway and only click heads and can still oneshot scout if someone fks up
near zealot
high cal is 6 meters of range so u won't bodyshot shooters after that
YIKES
sturdy glen
it does one shot strikers from fairly far
ocean spindle
as in the other gun, hel shotgun it's really aimed to be into masses
it is about 15 dmg so it two shots most enemies, it pens so it hits the ones in the back, it staggers so they ball up, and it's automatic so it goes by itself
it can do pretty well on its own but that is its strength
minor fractal
okay, ig i got too lax because high cal is easier than mastaba, i wish there was...
A full square tile w/ security doors on either side is 64x64 units. So, halfway across a room like the start of R1B1 is 32 units.
ocean spindle
ah and it also has a wide cone to hit multiple at a time
minor fractal
That's really the best you can get for gauging distance, though.
I think the map's 10 unit markers are also reasonably accurate.
Bio can also help w/ its range markers
civic wave
yea, ranges is something you start to feel out as you play more
you can ping something like a box for a distance marker, place a sentry or drop a heavy object etc etc
near zealot
I'm sure i just need more practice, no big deal. High cal would probably be really OP if it had longer range tbf
ocean spindle
it is really a feel thing
minor fractal
It'd be quite strong, but the best weapons rn are excessively strong.
minor fractal
It's hard to outperform BC, Scatter, or HEL Weapons.
hard nexus
hel shotgun is certainly one of the main weapons
keen path
it certainly is a weapon
ocean spindle
very stronk weapon
near zealot
It's hard to outperform BC, Scatter, or HEL Weapons.
only weapon I think is cringe is Carbine, it's so easy and is better than basically everything
ocean spindle
only weapon I think is cringe is Carbine, it's so easy and is better than basica...
i mean yeah but hel revo and hel shotgun are still better than it
minor fractal
It is a little cringey and goofy how strong it is.
But HEL Revo and HEL Shotgun are significantly better.
near zealot
i mean yeah but hel revo and hel shotgun are still better than it
true but lots of skill express., carbine is too easy
ocean spindle
yeah
minor fractal
Carbine skill floor is pretty low, yeah.
ocean spindle
it really has become just the assault rifle but burst
minor fractal
It's the meta weapon for bad players.
tardy ingot
Carbine skill floor is pretty low, yeah.
this is always funny to me cause this can mean 2 different things 
hard nexus
i dont like carbine
ocean spindle
u don't like anything
tardy ingot
it performs well at low skill = high skill floor
with low skill it performs well still = high skill floor
hard nexus
id rather take hel shotty than that garbage
near zealot
it really has become just the assault rifle but burst
not even, it's literally burst rifle but just the better version except for flashlight 💀
minor fractal
I'd think of high skill floor as "you need to be really good to even begin using this"
civic wave
can we just nerf carbine back into og r4 and buff hel revo back into og r4, i think it'd be great for primary balance
keen path
i'd rather take smg than that carbine garbage
minor fractal
DTR is a high skill floor.
tardy ingot
It's the meta weapon for bad players.
also this is way too fuckin harsh
its not like the gun is suddenly bad in the hands of good players
its just not hel shotty/hel revo giga cracked
minor fractal
If you aren't already a very competent player, DTR is a dog-ass gun.
tardy ingot
yea
civic wave
saying that carbine is meta for bad players is not saying that it's a bad gun for good players though?
ocean spindle
not even, it's literally burst rifle but just the better version except for flas...
burst rifle its ngl very close behind it
they are very similar in quality
burst rifle even has more range
minor fractal
also this is way too fuckin harsh
its not like the gun is suddenly bad in the ha...
But it doesn't change much in the hands of good players.
It's a braindead strong spam weapon.
Shoot at enemy to optimize.
near zealot
burst rifle its ngl very close behind it
burst rifle good, just carbine better 95% of the time just too much stats. I think the reload is uncanny imo, it's faster than pistol
tardy ingot
saying that carbine is meta for bad players is not saying that it's a bad gun fo...
it insinuates that its good for bad players but not good otherwise
but thats also just text messages making tone not a thing
hard nexus
u don't like anything
i like hsmg, hel gun and sleepo
civic wave
I feel like we must have different ideas on what skill floor means then
drowsy gust
wait this whole convo brings some questions to my brain
ocean spindle
wait this whole convo brings some questions to my brain
do say
civic wave
because in my head skill floor doesn't state the minimum or maximum output of a gun, only the skill required to be effective with it
drowsy gust
like i have maybe 4 hrs in game very new aka havent completed R1 yet but what guns should i be using
keen path
low skill ceiling is far suitable term for Carbine
minor fractal
DTR is a high skill floor gun
hard nexus
just use your hammer mate
minor fractal
that is also not particularly strong
ocean spindle
like i have maybe 4 hrs in game very new aka havent completed R1 yet but what gu...
for r1 anything, it's ur time to experiment
see what's good see what isn't
drowsy gust
but i dont want to get used to smth that cant go with me to most levels
minor fractal
but i dont want to get used to smth that cant go with me to most levels
Wave clear is always good.
Mains are very much not specialized if they aren't shotguns.
ocean spindle
but i dont want to get used to smth that cant go with me to most levels
i mean just don't repeat too much of the same gun until u tried em all off
rlly the only terrible weapon rn is sniper, and then follow behind some like short rifle or burst pistol
hard nexus
or carbine
minor fractal
HEL Revo + HEL Gun is an optimal loadout for every level, even for levels where it's a bit weaker than other options.
near zealot
low skill ceiling is far suitable term for Carbine
yep, definitely feels the most "OP" of the top weapons despite not being the technical best because of ease of use. skill floor is bottom of the barrel with like zero recoil and pinpoint accuracy and the skill ceiling is nothing because it doesn't use any relevant tech that much (like reload cancel and isn't reliant on headshot breakpoint like Hel Revo), not a fan
ocean spindle
it's just not only u can complete the game with bad weaponry, is that bad weaponry it's still usable and ok for most levels
drowsy gust
ok cause ive been using the burst rifle and high cal pistol
ocean spindle
that sounds like a very good combo
drowsy gust
and i kinda like them
ocean spindle
those two are pretty good
keen path
that's a cool combo
ocean spindle
yeh
minor fractal
Carbine isn't really that much of a problem, though.
ocean spindle
i should run that KDMSKD
minor fractal
Like, it does not bend the meta nearly as much as HEL Revo.
Pen weapons fundamentally break the game.
drowsy gust
i wanna try the dtr and revolvers but my aim isnt that great
minor fractal
And the stats of HEL Revo really do not respect how much value it truly has access to.
keen path
i like to express my skill (domes a teammate on the head because of penetration)
ocean spindle
i wanna try the dtr and revolvers but my aim isnt that great
once u start seeing patterns in the enemies rlly aim isn't much of an issue
drowsy gust
oki
minor fractal
ok cause ive been using the burst rifle and high cal pistol
HEL Revo + High Cal is a pretty universal loadout.
wet bear
Just use scattergun in direction of enemy
hard nexus
i see patterns in my frame variance
minor fractal
You won't exactly carry on it, but it's pretty decent everywhere.
It carries a lot of easier content, and is very good at supporting carries on harder content (so long as you have carries).
ocean spindle
yeah specials r just made to be used depending on the level
high cal is a pretty flexible one but it lacks range so usually gotta take something else for rlly long sight levels
drowsy gust
ima use dtr and rev for R1B2
minor fractal
Vox moment