#gtfo-related-questions

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whole grove
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I think C1 could have made us look at terminals to get the codes rather than all of it being free

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I wonder what other people's opinions are on C1 for how it could be better

past mesa
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C1 for where it is in the entirety of gtfo is probably to hard

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Being the 3rd mission that brand new players will naturally try to play

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it probs needed a nerf especially because most teams that get stuck in this level won’t get stuck in r1d1

whole grove
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Maybe a reorder to R1A1, R1B1, R1B2 (maybe sleeping hybrid?), R1D1, R1C2, R1C1

past mesa
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Na I think just r1c1 should have been reworked

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It isn’t a gtfo level

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It is a average wave defence shooter

whole grove
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Yeah nothing like gtfo to spice up the genre where its not just wave defense shooter

modest monolith
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R1C1 is way too much to handle for newbies. Especially the hybrids

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With the extra guns provided more compared to the OG, it's rare to see newbies switching their guns

ocean spindle
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r1c1 is just a really weird mix of being extremely boring but also a gigantic challenge

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for newies

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i dont think it needs to be reworked, idk maybe as someone commented maybe from 8 to 6 waves... idk

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but that would also just mean adjusting resources

whole grove
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I mean once you know what it is you easily figure out its wave defense but I would agree that the hybrid does cause a lot of havoc for those who don't know how to deal with wave + giants/hybrid

ocean spindle
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i think hybrid waves maybe shouldnt include giants?

modest monolith
# whole grove I mean once you know what it is you easily figure out its wave defense but I wou...

It would not come as a surprise when newbies don't even know how to make use of the weapons properly. Like each gun has its own purpose.

Let's take Hybrids as an example: Which gun are the best ? Sniper/Hel Rifle/Hel Gun/Choke Mod/Scattergun.

So now you have the options. But... how do you distribute the task to each member ? Like this guy has to kill hybrids, this guy has to hold the wave with the machine gun, this guy must find resources and refill the entire team,etc...

whole grove
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Has the community ever wanted a first person story mode for GTFO?

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I suppose R1C1 gets you to all work together to hold the wave and find resources within a timer

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unlike any other R1 missions, this has a timer component

modest monolith
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it does. Every single level in this game requires teamwork.

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but it's not supposed to be much of a challenge like r1c1

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we are talking in the context of newbies

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slightly reduce the amount of enemies in each wave would be a good nerf

whole grove
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I guess if the failure rate is high enough it should be considered, next thing you know they put in a checkpoint at the reactor door lol

fallen kite
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Wouldnt complain abt that checkpoint

modest monolith
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Imo, checkpoint ruins 90% of the experience

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it's meant to be a hardcore game, no pain no gain, all or nothing

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force you and your team to watch everyone's back, adapt, brainstorm,...

ocean spindle
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some people suggested checkpoints with limited uses

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and it sounds nice

modest monolith
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yeah that one might as well

tender lion
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<ake it an option when you launch the expedition.

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*make, even.

ocean spindle
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enough to die if the level throws u a shit thing like some admittedly do
but not rnough to go 6 hours in a row

ocean spindle
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u just dont use it if u dont need it or want it

tender lion
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Oh.. I didn't see it then.

ocean spindle
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theres the thing of 'go back to the lobby'

soft crater
surreal forge
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I just bought the game and finished the tutorial, what do I do now?

upper ginkgo
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prob start on r1a1 with 3 other bots or look for a group in the server's vcs

surreal forge
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Is that the lfg-beginners channel

upper ginkgo
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yeah i'd recommend looking for a group there

surreal forge
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Ok thanks 👍

upper ginkgo
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here's a short video on how to matchmake using the discord if you're unsure

surreal forge
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Double thanks bro

digital mural
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I recommend doing the first level with bots first

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So You can progress at your own speed

ocean spindle
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and if u do plan on going with people, just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

soft crater
ocean spindle
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:]

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i will throw

hazy wedge
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Throw it

winter laurel
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Hi everyone! I just bought the game and completed the tutorial. But I don't understand how do I view my loadout? There is no menu for it

topaz anvil
winter laurel
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Oooh, so I need to choose a rundown first? Thanks!

topaz anvil
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🫡

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good luck

soft crater
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Choose rundown and then choose expedition.

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If they ever even read this

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Before they start calling individual expeditions "rundowns"

outer nacelle
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do enemies spawn 1 room away intead of 2 now? i just finished r6b2 and they spawned on my face lol

upper ginkgo
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I'm assuming it happened during an uplink?

outer nacelle
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yea during uplink

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is it a new mechanic?

upper ginkgo
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uplinks have a different spawning rule

outer nacelle
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ahhhh icic

upper ginkgo
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they can spawn minimum 1 room away and only within the same zone

outer nacelle
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aight aight thx for the clarification vozy

grim fern
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How do you join a other persons game with the ID? Can't seem to figure it out

digital mural
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And then go into the game

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A red button to join Will appear

grim fern
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Have it copied but no red button, guess I'll have to restart and see if that works. Thanks for the help

digital mural
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It's on the left side of the screen

grim fern
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Still nothing so probably the person is not hosting anymore but appreciate the help!

hidden ridge
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With terminal uplinks, they NEED to spawn in the same ZONE as the terminal

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So, if the terminal for the uplink is inside a ROOM which is connected to ALL OTHER ROOMS in the ZONE, it's basically 1 room away

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You can spawnpush enemies further but don't test your luck too much with that

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And with Terminal uplinks you CANNOT spawnpush outside the same ZONE as the Terminal

turbid horizon
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they will just spawn on top of you

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See R6B2 extreme zone 225

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the 3 room uplink zone

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mfw

ocean spindle
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dak this is exactly the level they are talking about

turbid horizon
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oh lmfao

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go figure

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the most dumb zone I’ve ever seen

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And they kept it the exact same for alt but changed the beginning of the level which was FINE

outer nacelle
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ahhh icic ty beepo n dakstar

turbid horizon
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not me just ranting about how they could’ve made B2 a better level but they made it a worse level

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Np

past mesa
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Omg

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Imagine

turbid horizon
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looks at R3D1

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Imagines that for other levels

past mesa
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Yeah

turbid horizon
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fuck man, how’d we get the alts we got

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unfortunate

past mesa
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the easiest way to do it was just redrop the levels

turbid horizon
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and sometimes make them worse!!!

stiff hearth
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R5C3 Uplink the enemies spawn in other zone technically BananaDancing

turbid horizon
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R5B3, R6C1, R6B2

turbid horizon
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Also they have no choice

turbid horizon
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I haven’t played the OG yet

past mesa
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heavy item empty room walks are lame

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Removing them is based

turbid horizon
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cool

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Glad to know I didn’t miss out

past mesa
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It also just doesn’t need infection

tardy ingot
turbid horizon
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eva I know what you’re about to say

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
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i did not know

past mesa
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Because it has like 17 heavy item walks through empty rooms

hidden ridge
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To be honest that's nearly most item carrying I'll be sincere

turbid horizon
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15 glp go brrrrrmmmm

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at least R4E1 carry is interesting

past mesa
turbid horizon
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i’ve done that section now

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it fun

past mesa
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Tbh that section is fine but

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It also has a turbine walk through empty rooms

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like 4 seconds later

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So idk

turbid horizon
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Haven’t done E1 extreme yet, but I basically completed main and it was cool

turbid horizon
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like in the ENTIRE LEVEL

past mesa
tardy ingot
past mesa
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btw

turbid horizon
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WHY THO

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that’s so ass

past mesa
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brain rot

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No other explanations

turbid horizon
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they literally made a point where someone has to dive

tardy ingot
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Fog repellers >>> fog turbine

turbid horizon
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just give BOTH

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let us CHOOSE

tardy ingot
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Fog repellers also force players to increase their playing speed

turbid horizon
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i’d take both

hidden ridge
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I guess a turbine is fine if I've literally no idea where to go and what to ping and shit along those lines

turbid horizon
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i knew there were reps in OG

hidden ridge
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Even then some repellers do the job

turbid horizon
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Like I’d watched the playthroughs

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And I was playing alt blind, and was so confused

hidden ridge
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In my IDEAL world

turbid horizon
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Why the fuck did they remove them

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That’s so ass bro

past mesa
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Because the level only has 3 uses

turbid horizon
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that’s annoying as fuck

hidden ridge
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As soon as you finish R4E1 Extreme, a sec door opens that tps you to the zone before mom+tank

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But the game AFAIK doesn't allow circular pathing so it's perhaps next to impossible to do

turbid horizon
past mesa
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Hear me out what if all secondary sectors didn’t take a full team to start

turbid horizon
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it’s possible

past mesa
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Then the goal is to run reactor and ending at the same time

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hmmmm

turbid horizon
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With the rundown dev mods we have? Definitely possible

past mesa
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Curious

hidden ridge
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why make it like that

turbid horizon
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The goal is you do reactor or stealth

past mesa
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Because it fixes literally every single level

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In the game

hidden ridge
past mesa
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all secondaries become amazing

turbid horizon
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If we learned anything from R8 it’s that having a split on side objectives instead of an addition is usually pretty nice

hidden ridge
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This is like a certain someone telling me R6D1 is fixed by skipping reactor and doing the alarm in the fog

past mesa
turbid horizon
past mesa
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Like it doesn’t work for a bunch of them but r4d2 running main and secondary at the same time would be nice

hidden ridge
past mesa
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R4c2 running main and secondary would be nice but probs ruins the surge

turbid horizon
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or R5C1

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Or god forbid, R5D1

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That’d be so nice

past mesa
hidden ridge
past mesa
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Because they chose bad targets for no reason

past mesa
hidden ridge
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But take it this way

soft crater
hidden ridge
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R8C1 is weird, but it shows that they did think eventually about sectors being a fork instead of "do both"

past mesa
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yeah

hidden ridge
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So I believe they'd perhaps gone with that option instead

turbid horizon
hidden ridge
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Which would, IMHO, work finely for some maps

turbid horizon
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They’re both good levels in their own right

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but having them together is ass

hidden ridge
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After gens

soft crater
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Me wondering what cursed shit dak is cooking for occy

turbid horizon
soft crater
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The cursed ss you showed

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
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i think R5D1 could’ve been two different ways to shut off the power

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One harder than the other

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Would be a pretty heavy remaster, but so many people hate that level in it’s current iteration

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I think it’d be fine

hidden ridge
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I feel like I'd hate it less if Main was just a tad shorter and Extreme got rid of 1 of the alarms

past mesa
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I think r5d1 extreme is fine

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Besides the random zone where one player stealths for fog turbine

turbid horizon
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on it’s own, or together with main?

hidden ridge
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It should be like R1D1 with you having an OPTION to go sidepath for res

past mesa
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Shouldn’t be in the level

past mesa
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It is like a 30 minute mission

turbid horizon
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oh

past mesa
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Pretty reasonable ngl

turbid horizon
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bro what…

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i did it in like 1:30 at least

past mesa
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Yeah

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slow

turbid horizon
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ig we did also have a bunch of wipes

past mesa
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if you play up to reasonable tempo

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It is 30 minutes

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20 of which are the first half

turbid horizon
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Because we were fatigued as fuck from Glacius waking three tanks and then wiping us

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Ah

past mesa
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Wait

turbid horizon
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Interesting

past mesa
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Mods

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Why did you take it from me

stiff hearth
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lol

turbid horizon
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automod

past mesa
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hidden ridge
turbid horizon
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yeah that’s v fast

past mesa
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We loot?

turbid horizon
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Esp if you mean extreme

past mesa
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We ping from ammo

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idk guys

turbid horizon
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hush

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i mean like, average gameplay

past mesa
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If we are looting we aren’t speeding

hidden ridge
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You've played too much with ray

soft crater
past mesa
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Ray loots

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Every fucking box

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It is like a taunt

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Ray sees box Ray will go for box

soft crater
tardy ingot
past mesa
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no

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Rn

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we get 30 mins

tardy ingot
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so its speed speed

past mesa
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First try

tardy ingot
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🚪 👈

hidden ridge
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30mins for both Main and Extreme is insanely good

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And I assume you know it

turbid horizon
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yeah lmao

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What

tardy ingot
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i can see an argument for 50 if you play casually

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at an honest pace

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cuz 1:30 is safe pace

past mesa
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Yeah it

turbid horizon
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yeah we were tryimg safe pace

past mesa
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Yeah 30 is insane guys

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But literally

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It isn’t far off just normal gameplay

turbid horizon
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also we had to deal with 3 fucking tank wakeups

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So that’s probably where we lost time

past mesa
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Huh?

turbid horizon
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glacius

past mesa
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But

soft crater
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Oh

past mesa
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How did you get 3

soft crater
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You mean the time

past mesa
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?

turbid horizon
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“Be careful there’s a tank back there”
Runs straight into tank

turbid horizon
soft crater
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Glacius said to watch out for tanks and then walked into one

past mesa
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ah

turbid horizon
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woke up the one on side twice

past mesa
tardy ingot
# past mesa Yeah 30 is insane guys

2:20 R1A1 is closer to its casual sub 10 min gameplay

considering r5d1 is waaaay longer and harder 40+ minutes is at absolute worst there lol

turbid horizon
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also the reactor incident

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“We don’t need to kill the shadow scout guys”

past mesa
turbid horizon
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m’bruh I should’ve shot that mf scout

soft crater
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Yeah.

turbid horizon
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solace were you in that squad

soft crater
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Yes

turbid horizon
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It was me mako glacius and someone else

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Ah ok

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that shit was so annoying man

soft crater
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I was using the term nearby the tank glacius woke up

hidden ridge
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I dont even remember who I did R5D1 with

turbid horizon
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You got like bitch slapped off

hidden ridge
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we did something less than 2 hours but took like a 10min pause before reactor because someone had to do something

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And we fucked up a shadow scout

soft crater
hidden ridge
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Still not bad for a second try clear considering that I never managed to finish the OG

turbid horizon
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I’ve wiped those runs from my brain

soft crater
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Til after the fact

turbid horizon
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But we definitely fucked scouts up

soft crater
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Yea

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Wasn't it

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Bugged or after

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For the moms

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I don't remember if we had it.

tardy ingot
soft crater
tardy ingot
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Its like a 22 min r6c1 being fast but not speedrun

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anything above 10 is taking it slow (or not knowing the level)

turbid horizon
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some newbie gonna come in here and be so confused

soft crater
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I still recall my old co worker

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Duo'd R1A1 in about 1 hr 30mins

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They watched some guides but outside of that they managed everything else on their own.

hidden ridge
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Did you give them an headpat, a star and "good boy points"?

lone mortar
hidden ridge
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Positive encouragement is the way to go

hidden ridge
lone mortar
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Omg big fan sleepo

soft crater
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I just told them for a duo. And first time they did pretty well.

lone mortar
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Im a huge fan of the user sleepo beepo the goer to bed

soft crater
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Seeing 4 man r1a1s take longer

lone mortar
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Why youre not resting

soft crater
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Fedex is being shit

lone mortar
soft crater
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So the shippers couldn't even process stuff

lone mortar
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Wheres you naps at cuh

soft crater
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So we got off early

soft crater
lone mortar
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Understandable

prime musk
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do bioscan speed boosters apply to extraction scans?

lone mortar
prime musk
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oh also about bioscan boosters
for team scans, if one player has say 15% bioscan speed does that give the scan 85% duration or is the booster ignored for team scan, or divided by number of players etc

soft crater
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Bio scan boosters are only for yourself but team stacking still scales the speed

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It'll basically be a team scan that goes 15% faster

prime musk
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ok so they apply for any scans im standing in, to full effect

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thanks

lone mortar
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So a sum total of like

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8% full team sped up

tardy ingot
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its a bit more complicated

But instead of cutting away duration it speeds up how fast you get progress

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so 100% bio speed isnt a 0 sec scan

lone mortar
tardy ingot
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but halves it pretty much

prime musk
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it doubles speed i see

tardy ingot
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it also depends on what kind of scan and yadda yadda

soft crater
lone mortar
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S I

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So sus

tardy ingot
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R7C1 with max is 2 big S1…

lone mortar
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If you stack scan %

tardy ingot
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Thats crazy if stacked

lone mortar
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The S I is literally

soft crater
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Ngl eva. What if T scans also Moved faster instead of just the %

lone mortar
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Like 3 waves minimal

tardy ingot
lone mortar
tardy ingot
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but wouldnt change much honestly

Youd just sprint the alarm at some point and it wouldnt go faster

hidden ridge
prime musk
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the fandom wiki sucks but there doesn't seem to be another collected source for information about the game
wiki that actually gets numbers on everything and explains mechanics when

hidden ridge
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is

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an alarm

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yes

tardy ingot
hidden ridge
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with serious stuff like angles and greek letters

soft crater
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There's very few spots on the wiki that are wrong or read wrong

tardy ingot
soft crater
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Otherwise it's correct

prime musk
# tardy ingot Does it? I think its pretty good

it's decent for general stuff but anything specific i feel it lacks severely, and it feels like every time i watch some good player go through a level they do some trick or mention some mechanic that i've never encountered before

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like the other day i learned enemies only scream when they're at most 1 room away

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never mentioned on the wiki

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or, how spawning and enemy pathing works

hidden ridge
prime musk
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whenever i try kiting i feel blind because there is nowhere to comprehensively read how shit moves

hidden ridge
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or closer I guess

soft crater
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TT_hanakoread kinda funny but scouts still trigger even if you're downed.

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Don't ask me how I was downed in a still sleep room with active scout.

hidden ridge
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You tried to Assassin's Creed his spaghetti but you felt to the floor and ravioli'd?

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I mean that's the only thing I can think about

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Explosion and gun makes noise and an enemy needs to be awake to hit you

hazy wedge
hidden ridge
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Struggler from old wave?

soft crater
prime musk
tardy ingot
neat dome
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i found a door that said alarm v m can someone explain

digital mural
lone mortar
hidden ridge
soft crater
neat dome
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what's the m?

digital mural
lone mortar
soft crater
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I didn't check map to be sure

neat dome
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how is it mixed?

soft crater
hidden ridge
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then M=mixed, T=moving, Surge= enemies spawn nearly as fast as you kill them

lone mortar
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Like bug reds and small reds mixed up

hidden ridge
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and S is a purple scan that deloads if someone is not in it, or in it but downed

lone mortar
soft crater
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Team scan > 4 Cluster > big scan > multi cluster

neat dome
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thanks

lone mortar
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Wow

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Im so disappointed

soft crater
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Etc.

hidden ridge
lone mortar
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They aint even there yet and you pulled up the list

lone mortar
lone mortar
soft crater
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No

tardy ingot
lone mortar
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Stop lookin at the damn phone

soft crater
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It's only 1PM

lone mortar
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Yo eyes burning

tardy ingot
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no like

Ive had this multiple times

Scout snaps on you and sucks tentacles in but doesnt scream until you are back alive

soft crater
tardy ingot
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no

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not unless they also touch scout

hidden ridge
soft crater
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I can only assume a teammate was adjacent then and a woken enemy got in as a tendril touched the downed me

tardy ingot
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In the r7c2 clear with scaler it happened (or in an attempt)

hazy wedge
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R7D1 solo 😱

lone mortar
topaz anvil
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There's some bs in some levels but most will be reasonably doable solo

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The outliers rely on your tenacity on getting good rng and general patience

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You will be running around for a while teehee

tardy ingot
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A handful of levels require exploits (with or without bots)

A few need cheese strats with bots

A good bunch need cheese without bots

A lot are incredibly hard with or without bots

lone mortar
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Kiting for 3 hours

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And come back to scan for 6s then run away again

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Ez grab

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We have another to the pods

topaz anvil
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Gods weakest solo player (me) could definitely solo this entire game (source: trust me bro)

worthy arrow
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Sure pal.... good luck on r1a1....

frail gate
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If I go around and kill more monsters in surrounding rooms will that lower the amount that attack me when I trigger a class alarm?

digital mural
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the only thing you get by killing surrounding enemies is not having extra enemies that wake up when the others spawn or by noise

frail gate
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And how do I kill a scout in general, can I kill it solo with a knife?

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I tried headshotting it always fails

digital mural
frail gate
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Sorry another question how do I determine where they're gonna spawn, I have a hard time picking the right doors to guard.

tired aurora
digital mural
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but they always spawn 2 rooms away

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if you have multiple ways then try to cover as much area as possible

frail gate
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So can they spawn 2 rooms away in an area I haven't discovered yet?

digital mural
frail gate
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Oh shit

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Well thanks again guys

tired aurora
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they dont care you havent been there yet

digital mural
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you could also funnel them into a single path

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by leaving a door open

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but that depends

prime musk
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are there graphical settings that make it easier to see through mist
i know reducing shadow quality makes shadows (the enemy) easier to see, but is there something similar for mitigating mist

digital mural
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the mist is made to not see through it

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thats the whole point

prime musk
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yeah but depending on how it is coded reducing some settings could make it more see through/less opaque

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regardless, thanks

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now i know i just need to not have skill issue

digital mural
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i have played in min and mid graphics and i didnt noticed any difference in the mist

digital mural
frail gate
topaz anvil
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To each door when they spawn

prime musk
topaz anvil
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We love fog

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If you aren't already using them, fog repellers clear the fog around it in a large spherical area

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Making everything visible

frail gate
prime musk
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i know the basics, at least

frail gate
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So when I approach a scout with a knife should I be crouching or just going for it, can it hear me get close?

topaz anvil
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Prolly better than me at this point I'm giga washed

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I recommend not using knife :^)

frail gate
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But I like it, it's just the scouts i can't beat ;((

topaz anvil
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Consider

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Shoot scout in head with secondary

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But anyway scouts only wake up from gunshots, enemies screaming, touching them directly, touching the tentacles and letting it trigger, and taking nonlethal damage

civic wave
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Scouts will alert from player contact, loud sounds, or damage, so you can walk and even sprint without setting them off (instead they will put out their feelers, but be mindful of waking other enemies if you sprint)

prime musk
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and close range aggro

tardy ingot
topaz anvil
tardy ingot
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2nd best*

hazy wedge
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I like knife :3

tardy ingot
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(well its out of 4 so eh)

digital mural
#

sprint

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if you touch a tentacle it takes half a second to wake up the scout

worthy arrow
#

When scouts hear you does it just make the tentacles come out if they aren't out already?

digital mural
tardy ingot
#

it depends on what sound

digital mural
#

if its a gunshot

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then it will wake up

tardy ingot
digital mural
#

but if its running, walking, jumping it will extend its tentacles

tardy ingot
digital mural
worthy arrow
#

Why would you do that and not like, kill the scout

tardy ingot
digital mural
tardy ingot
#

in r6d2 cscout room

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through a pillar

digital mural
#

aaaah

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that makes more sense

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skill issue

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:)

tardy ingot
#

was funny

digital mural
#

and thats why someone carrying lock melters is always very useful

topaz anvil
tardy ingot
#

lock melters legit the best general consumable

worthy arrow
#

Lock melter tool when?

frail gate
#

I cry everytime i open a box and its a lock melter

digital mural
#

they are extremely useful

topaz anvil
#

Lock melters the hidden blessing of gtfo

hazy wedge
#

I remember playing with free weekend players who said lock melters were kinda useless

tardy ingot
#

all the other consumables are so situational

digital mural
#

id say glowsticks are very useful too

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and cool

upper ginkgo
#

i will strangle you mr. google emoji man

tardy ingot
topaz anvil
digital mural
tardy ingot
#

so rarely nice in dark situations
in most of them youd far rather have a lrf

digital mural
#

yeah, fair enough

tardy ingot
#

i think glowsticks are the least used (as in actually worth it) consumable and the worst overall in the end

digital mural
#

:(

tardy ingot
#

the "worth it" was for people just chucking them

topaz anvil
#

Glowstick and lrf usage is inversely propotional to each other

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On a sliding scale of experience

upper ginkgo
#

so true

tardy ingot
#

lrf in some levels is actually such a blessing to get

digital mural
#

shadows

upper ginkgo
#

fuck the c-trip on r4e1, i'm carrying a lrf

civic wave
#

Y = constant/X

hardy grotto
#

the boosters in glowstick proximity should be brought back

civic wave
#

Thats how inversely proportional works right I can't remember

topaz anvil
turbid horizon
civic wave
#

RQ/16 slaps hard

turbid horizon
#

my argument: it was funny

hardy grotto
#

me hunting for glowsticks so i can take 20% less damage from tongues

digital mural
digital mural
#

wtf

#

thats so cool

turbid horizon
#

the hacking tool/resource pack ones seemed funny yoo

topaz anvil
#

Not a vet exposed

turbid horizon
#

they made you actually want to pull out your hacking tool

digital mural
#

dumbass

hazy wedge
#

Mfw bioscan speed while holding the hacking tool cat_standing_RS

tardy ingot
turbid horizon
#

hacking the scan

topaz anvil
#

Are we 12:34 or 23:45 enjoyers

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Or even

#

01:23 fans

civic wave
tardy ingot
#

:^ )

#

the og r6 days

topaz anvil
#

I miss the days of r7d1 overload hell

craggy pier
#

Any advice on what are good guns for beginners?

upper ginkgo
#

easiest ones to use are probably pdw, pistol, heavy smg, carbine

#

meta weapons are hel revo, carbine, hel shotgun, sawed off

hazy wedge
#

Hel piss and sniper

ocean spindle
#

sawed off feels nice for starting out too to practice closer encounters with enemies

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on specials tho just they all pretty much serve a purpose, some are more flexible than others
only one to rlly not pick is sniper

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the rest u can like play around check strengths... just try em all a couple times!

tardy ingot
hazy wedge
#

Burst rifle 🔥

upper ginkgo
ocean spindle
#

getting used to main autos helps for gettin used to special autos which usually have more recoil or something

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and some players adjust better to autos too

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raises hand

upper ginkgo
#

i've been playing around with har and i'm liking it

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it just bothers me that i hear 2 rounds shoot when i only tap once

upper ginkgo
ocean spindle
#

no, no

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sometimes it happens

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specially with fast firing guns

#

u can very clearly tell with autopiss or machinepiss

upper ginkgo
#

yeah it really fucks with me

ocean spindle
#

uhh on mains yes

past mesa
#

YE

ocean spindle
#

the ones said above

past mesa
#

no on both you just havent

#

accepted it yet

tepid sand
ocean spindle
#

on specials it's a little bit more complicated since depends on the level, but there is some outlayers that are or very flexible or very strong

upper ginkgo
#

can we just tell everyone that there is a wrong option when choosing guns

tepid sand
#

My bullet duping tech PH_nooo

past mesa
#

it is called mg

ocean spindle
#

shure

#

:[

upper ginkgo
#

someone make a copypasta for this

ocean spindle
#

i can make one

#

i'm the copypasta guy

upper ginkgo
#

i will proofread it

ocean spindle
#

i do not accept mg slander tho

upper ginkgo
#

if it sucks, i will disassemble you like the chair you are

ocean spindle
#

lemme write something up

#

:3

ocean spindle
upper ginkgo
#

i'm warning you, i have a saw and hammer

civic wave
#

The 2 bullets sound thing drives me crazy

#

is it actually a thing or did I gaslight myself into thinking it was the echo of the sound

#

and not an extra sound

tardy ingot
#

it is a thing

civic wave
#

gg i gaslit myself

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

the best weapons for mains are hel revolver, hel shotgun, sawed off... these require a little bit of practice, as for example hel revo needs good headshots, hel shotgun good crowds to spam or to and sawed off practice up close
easy to use great main weaponry include burst rifle, carbine, pistol and other semis like rifle, these usually just need good headshots for the most part but are more forgiving. On mains weapons to avoid could be some autos like bullpup or assault rifle, and slug shotgun
on specials good hard to use guns are hel gun, burst cannon and precision rifle if you don't good control of charge ups and headshots respectively. easy to use specials that work well are combat shotgun, pump shotgun, hel rifle [even with the charge up as is very short], scattergun... On specials weapons to avoid would be mainly short rifle and sniper.

#

ok this is too long

#

i need to short it

upper ginkgo
#

nah

ocean spindle
#

or at least make it... more readable

#

i'm on phone

upper ginkgo
#

oh yeah format it

tardy ingot
#

Format 100%

ocean spindle
#

carbine is there wdym

#

i just need to add dmr

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:[

tardy ingot
#

you took it from best and moved it to great

ocean spindle
#

ok wording but i meant it just as easy to use

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i'll fix it

tardy ingot
#

God
I rly gotta work on my weapon videos that ive been planning..

ocean spindle
#

smhhhhh

#

the other youtuber has to end up writing a copy paste

tardy ingot
#

The shitpost had to go first tho

ocean spindle
#

i make a cameo yayy

#

:]

upper ginkgo
ocean spindle
#

i feel validation

ocean spindle
tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
#

i recommend pistol/rifle to people who initially started on automatics but want to transition to semi-autos

tardy ingot
#

Yes???

upper ginkgo
#

or that's how i would frame it at least

tardy ingot
#

but that doesnt mean a weapon thats weak is suddenly goated

upper ginkgo
#

but yeah, i think they're acceptable as their first weapons

ocean spindle
#

if they go by the playstyle i would recommend guns good their playstyle

upper ginkgo
#

i think it'd be helpful if you made a flow chart for weapon choices

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and then we could use that instead of a copypasta

tardy ingot
#

copypasta?

ocean spindle
#

what's a flowchart i don't english

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

like the

  • this
  • this?
upper ginkgo
#

have good aim or bad aim?

tardy ingot
#

How good vs how difficult to use?

upper ginkgo
#

if good aim

  • have really good aim or ok aim?
tardy ingot
#

huh?

ocean spindle
#

i see it

upper ginkgo
#

it's hard to describe in text lol

#

uhhh

ocean spindle
#

i mean problem is how to divide it
cause- or well not necessarily...

#

mhh

tardy ingot
#

X axis = how good a gun

y axis = how difficult

That?

ocean spindle
#

problem here is like- there's so much weapons
if i divide by good aim i'm gonna put hel revo along side like dmr as one is clearly the winnin option

upper ginkgo
#

it's a bit nuanced, and i could see the flow chart not being linear

ocean spindle
#

i think

tardy ingot
#

Difficlty isnt just aim obviously

ocean spindle
#

ok mayb like
difficukt good weaponry

  • blah
    simple good weaponry
  • blah
    ok weaponry
  • blah
#

[i mistyped enter teehee]

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i would start writing it if my pc turned on

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yes

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it's just named "shotgun" in game so

#

to be a lil more clear i say pump shottie

silent delta
#

doesnt the slug model also have a pump

ocean spindle
#

but it's slug

#

it's much clearer

silent delta
#

yeah

#

and also they dont actually use the pump lmao

#

the devs have (mostly) done a fairly good job of making all the guns in the game at least viable, in their niches

ocean spindle
#

well this whole convo has been gun discussion so

#

also wdym double precision

silent delta
#

with the possible exceptions of slug shotty, burst pistol, sniper, and short rifle

ocean spindle
#

do u just means the double tap rifle

silent delta
#

everything else is pretty ok

ocean spindle
#

i mean no

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

why would u

silent delta
#

if you can aim, why not

ocean spindle
#

yeah

#

just make sure u cancel reload the revo

silent delta
#

i mean you'll still have some weaknesses

#

dmr + precision rifle, you might have some trouble against giants

#

or if a big group gets right up in ur grill

upper ginkgo
#

it's also important to consider that the more teammates you have, the less your weapon choices matter

tardy ingot
#

@plain ice Honestly dont care about guns toooo much

You gotta try everything anyway (dw you will be spending more than enough time..)

If you want to know whats effective vs what. Theres guides for that

The games hinges way more on knowing how game mechanics work. Like stealth, how tools work etc

tardy ingot
silent delta
#

and thank god for that

#

because i cant aim for shit

ocean spindle
#

my pc stopped turning on yayyy

#

well copy paste plans ruined

#

do it yourselves skill issue

silent delta
#

average

upper ginkgo
#

omw to write a dissertation on gtfo weapon balance

silent delta
#

nothing sparks the autism dopamine quite like weapon balance discussion

ocean spindle
#

it's just 4 points, easy to use, hard to use, ok weapons, bad weapons

#

so 8 points

#

for both mains and specials

silent delta
#

there are only 9 exceptions

tardy ingot
upper ginkgo
tardy ingot
#

Tools are massively strong

silent delta
#

tools serve a very different purpose from guns

#

each one has its strengths

#

and weaknesses

#

cfoam and mines work well with doors, turrets work better with sightlines or to supplement your teams fire, biotracker is good in general

ocean spindle
silent delta
upper ginkgo
#

gross

silent delta
#

hey

#

i resent that

upper ginkgo
#

sorry

tardy ingot
#

bio tracker - insane information (in any full team setting should always be picked)

Mines - can kill even 20 enemies if you bunch them up on say a door

Cfoam - can delay the breaking of a door. Giving you time (for a bigger mine kill or to do smth like scans in an alarm)

Sentries - can take out parts of a wave or in some cases even completely stop it

silent delta
#

yeah

tardy ingot
silent delta
#

about that

#

they're slightly level dependent

#

i.e. if you're dropping into a level that doesnt have a lot of usable doors, mines and cfoam might not be as helpful as turrets

tardy ingot
#

Bio is never
Cfoam is heavily
Mines is somewhat
Burst sentry super rarely

Other sentries fill in for when you dont want burst

#

Burst

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Generic use and good

silent delta
#

idk if cfoam is heavily level dependent

tardy ingot
#

sniper needs long sightlines and prefers bigger targets

silent delta
#

even if you dont have doors it can still stall well

tardy ingot
#

hel auto sentry is stagger focused (a bug makes it niche at killing in a specific situations)

Shotgun is… oof

silent delta
#

the way i like to think of it, there is never really a situation in which burst sentry is incorrect. the others are situationally better/worse
sniper is better if you have hella sightlines or know that you're going against big targets
auto is great for stalling or team support because stagger
shotgun is great for meming

tardy ingot
#

Tho i plan on working on a video that explains this quickly for each..

silent delta
#

based eva

tardy ingot
#

i just gotta edit for 10 hours or smth

silent delta
#

light work no reaction

tardy ingot
#

but imagine having time

worn crow
#

Shotgun Sentry getting 2x ammo with biotracker symbiosis and still being useless

silent delta
#

free time is a crutch we dont need it

silent delta
tardy ingot
worn crow
#

So sad

tardy ingot
#

Well gn

silent delta
#

night night

ocean spindle
#

good morning

silent delta
#

🫠

ocean spindle
#

:]

silent delta
#

is it morning for you?

ocean spindle
#

no

#

it's 9 pm

silent delta
#

average

#

i have to wake up for work in 9 hours

ocean spindle
#

i just want it to be morning to see the sunlight and not krill myself

ocean spindle
silent delta
#

do i go to bed at a reasonable hour or stay up watching pvz challenge runs

ocean spindle
#

go snooze

#

if not

#

i'll

#

throw pepper at u

silent delta
#

ur supposed to enable me >:(

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

the bad one

ocean spindle
#

be responsible

silent delta
silent delta
#

pepper spray?

#

ghost peppers?

#

or something more adept at blunt force trauma, like underripe bell peppers

ocean spindle
ocean spindle
silent delta
#

impressive

silent delta
loud cloak
#

If I do an expedition and find terminal logs but I fail the run, do I keep the log progress or do I have to redo and finish the run?

silent delta
#

wiping or completing the level gives you log progress

#

even better, it doesnt have to be you, it just has to be one member of hte party

#

top tier pfp btw

ocean spindle
#

also just inputting the Read command gives the count

past mesa
#

@tardy ingot

ocean spindle
#

so u can just die afterwards

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

i say gay but i'm bi so

#

either works

silent delta
#

imagine liking the same gender tbh

#

thats kinda gay ngl

ocean spindle
#

imagine liking both

#

is that more gay or less gay

silent delta
#

probably less?

#

or maybe its the same amount of gay

#

and theres just an equal amount of straight

#

so double the total of other people

ocean spindle
#

maybe it's just
more bisexual idk

loud cloak
#

Oh man that's a relief, I was getting a little worried about doing some of the harder expeditions multiple times just to keep the log progress.

silent delta
ocean spindle
#

like r6d4

silent delta
#

you will have plenty to worry about

#

r2e1 logs.

ocean spindle
#

or r5e1

ocean spindle
silent delta
#

shut up >:c

ocean spindle
#

there's none in the second half

#

no u

silent delta
#

isnt there one in the error?

worn crow
#

There is

ocean spindle
#

oh nevermind

worn crow
#

2nd to last zone

silent delta
#

yeah

ocean spindle
#

idk how the fuck i got it then

silent delta
#

idk i got carried

ocean spindle
#

i only beaten the level once

worn crow
#

Someone got it for you 👌

silent delta
#

same

ocean spindle
#

yayy

#

probs andocas

#

fucking hero

silent delta
#

one singular complete

#

and it wasnt even legit 🫠

ocean spindle
#

omggg

#

shrill issue

silent delta
#

listen

#

i have like 600 hours in this game

#

and unironically like 50 of those are on r2e1

ocean spindle
#

i got like 600 hours and like 30 are in r1c2

silent delta
#

after like a week straight of attempts, my party and i had been attempting the same damn level for close to 8 hours

ocean spindle
#

wait i am not thinking

#

i got 1k hours wtf do i mean

loud cloak
#

I'm just glad terminal progress doesn't matter if I fail the mission or not

silent delta
#

and in that time, we had like 7 runs that made it to the last scan on the last door before extract, and thats where we wiped

#

we were sick of its shit

ocean spindle
#

teehee

silent delta
#

so my friend "accidentally" dropped in with a singular custom booster

#

and we won tha trun

#

but i cannot b fucked to get a legit complete

#

ptsd

ocean spindle
#

eventually u will come back to it and not out of like pain or anything

#

just curiosity

#

it always happens

silent delta
#

im sure i will at some point

#

i have buddies who dont have completion

#

and i will do it legit

loud cloak
worn crow
#

I come back to help people with that level purely out of spite

silent delta
#

my friend brought his piss booster and it kind of soloed

silent delta
loud cloak
#

R2C1 I've died so many times at the last door with bots

ocean spindle
loud cloak
#

C2, not C1

silent delta
#

ah

#

yeah c2's a bitch

#

took like a week of attempts for my first clear

ocean spindle
#

man no one likes to just fucking go to r3

#

despite of how many a tier it has

silent delta
#

but r3 has r3d1

#

best level

worn crow
#

Definitely a fan-favorite

#

Real fun

#

Also 2 disinfect stations is crazy lmao

silent delta
#

theres 2?

#

oh wait i knew that

#

nvm

worn crow
#

ye

silent delta
#

goober behavior

loud cloak
#

I've heard someone mention a run where you start with no ammo, is this true and how where can I find such pure sufferage?

silent delta
#

r7c3

#

its honestly not super awful

digital mural
#

and its

#

a fun level

ocean spindle
#

it is genuinely fun

silent delta
#

i love charger waves with zero ammo

digital mural
#

half stealth half full action

#

honestly really fun

silent delta
#

oh yeah its great i love it

ocean spindle
#

but well, r2... r7...

digital mural
#

extraction can get very wild

ocean spindle
#

it's taking u a while gettin there

silent delta
digital mural
silent delta
#

it got to us at like 85% extract

#

scared the shit out of me

digital mural
#

i never got to see the tank at extract

ocean spindle
#

teehee

digital mural
#

only the snatcher

#

snatching me out of extract

#

Lol

silent delta
#

we had a goat with the cfoam launcher

ocean spindle
#

;3

silent delta
#

he didnt make it to extract till we were already done

#

long enough for me to HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT and then we won

digital mural
#

prob a really good first tank impression

silent delta
#

oh yeah it was great lmao

digital mural
#

just watching that thing getting closer

#

and hen winning

#

damn

silent delta
#

honestly tanks are so cool to me

#

i love their sounds

#

something about it is just so visceral and gutteral

#

😩

ocean spindle
#

i love their big long thick .... attacks- yes

#

:]

silent delta
#

no

#

bad

ocean spindle
#

:3

silent delta
#

🏏 bonk

ocean spindle
#

:[

silent delta
#

alright im gonna go to bed

#

probably

#

hopefully

#

peace

ocean spindle
#

yes

#

niniiiii

#

patpat

silent delta
#

doggo snuggles for a good nights sleep

digital mural
lone mortar
little hull
#

any general tips?

#

i am extremely new, haven't even completed a full expedition

tiny wyvern
#

When they pulse you stop

digital mural
#

And if You get Hard stuck in a level jump to the next rundown

#

Try all guns, all melees, all tools

little hull
#

i assume trial and error will be pretty important too?

digital mural
#

Yes

#

Especially in harder levels

little hull
#

stealth seems really important too, the game made that pretty clear

digital mural
#

You Will die and lose hours and hours of progress

little hull
tiny wyvern
digital mural
hazy wedge
#

Please please please learn how to use the terminal. It is an important mechanic in the game and you will need to know how to use it effectively in every level

digital mural
#

Like bad spawn RNG

#

Bad scout RNG

little hull
#

ah

tiny wyvern
#

Sometimes it's just a skill issue (On both the game's front or just unfamiliarity)

little hull
hazy wedge
#

The tutorial does not highlight anything important besides ping on the terminal

#

Yes

digital mural
topaz anvil
little hull
#

tbh when i pinged the keycardit i didn't understand what it was trying to tell me
didn't highlight anything and if it said anything i missed it

digital mural
#

You can type COMMANDS

digital mural
topaz anvil
#

It's temporary

#

Like very temp

digital mural
#

ping key_(color)_(number)

little hull
#

i didn't notice anything at all

digital mural
#

You missed it then

little hull
#

tbh tho i've played hacknet i should be fine with the terminal

digital mural
#

Idk hacknet

little hull
#

terminal based hacking simulator

digital mural
#

But typing fast is a requirement in some levels

#

:)

little hull
#

you have to entirely use a terminal

little hull
#

6 characters a second

digital mural
#

Damn

#

You are ready then

hazy wedge