gtfo-related-questions

[dry pumice]

Ehhhhh.

[frail heart]

some levels got better

[ocean spindle]

not always better but for the most part yes

[frail heart]

some got worse

[dry pumice]

If anything the common complaint is they they didn't changed enough.

[ocean spindle]

wuh

[frail heart]

No lmao

[dry pumice]

I really do not need to walk through 3 minutes worth of empty rooms.

That shouldn't have been in the OG and it shouldn't be here either.

[frail heart]

I think thats a speed issue

[feral patrol]

alrighty, I'm glad to hear I won't be missing out on too much

[dry pumice]

I honestly can't even steelman what they were trying to do. There was some argument that it's literally the only way to bring those levels back because they just had to recook them, but then mods for them still exist so "???"

[ocean spindle]

not really to recook em i guess just make them more available to the general public not needing mods or somethin

most levels went mostly untouched apart from room changes

and ive heard most of thats due to how gtfo generates levels

[frail heart]

yeah

[dry pumice]

Tldr the only major change is that you have access to better arsenal and that there are more lore related logs all over the place. The levels are pretty much faithful to their predecessors, warts and all.

[frail heart]

I would've been extremely surprised if they changed any objectives

[ocean spindle]

that wouldve been weird

[past mesa]

No it is

[sturdy glen]

better guns is only like half true too

[feral patrol]

I'm glad to hear they kept it faithful, sometimes you can enjoy the good without the bad

[past mesa]

lots of old gtfo is the worse designed game I have ever seen

R4 could have been so nice with a few touches

[feral patrol]

but anyway, thanks for the help, I'm gonna go find me a match

[sturdy glen]

enjoy

[frail heart]

Damn

[ocean spindle]

okee, good luck, and as always, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[frail heart]

I must hear much different things

[sturdy glen]

real ones look at r4c2 and are happy they changed nothing

[ocean spindle]

so true

tbh levels like r4c2 without a complete revamp wouldve been really hard to make better, and that goes for a lot of r4

they would need a lot of fundamentals changed, like objectives alarms and entire zones

[frail heart]

I like the bad levels

[past mesa]

Removing team scans

Moving cells

Moving fog turbines

[frail heart]

You know what level would be good without team scans?

[past mesa]

not removing fog repellers

[frail heart]

FUCKIN r8e2

Tbh I more wish that reactor spawns weren’t fucked up

[sturdy glen]

does r7e1 have the best team scans in the game

[ocean spindle]

does it

[frail heart]

Yeah and you guys just have to skip it

So rude

[past mesa]

R7e1 is very good with team scans

All of them feel important

[sturdy glen]

imagine r7e1 codes having team scans

[past mesa]

Lots of them in a row

[frail heart]

Ew

[past mesa]

Stop

[frail heart]

Don’t even mention it

[past mesa]

I would actually

End my life

[sturdy glen]

entrance to code 3

team scan

[frail heart]

DISGUSTING

[past mesa]

Forced spawn block

[sturdy glen]

code 4

team scan

[frail heart]

No Brazilian skip for you

[sturdy glen]

it would be so cool

[past mesa]

This would be cool

Tbh

wouldn’t stop us from doing our thing either

[frail heart]

Yeah

R7E1 would be very hard tho

[past mesa]

It really wouldn’t

The stealth room is very easy unless you get an awful pattern

P mom babies in second/middle

[frail heart]

Ig yeah

I’ve never played it like that so idk

[past mesa]

With scatter is no big deal

You just fucking steam roll everything

Just kill scouts p mom both ways

[soft crater]

Scatter gun go crazy

[dry pumice]

Nerf damage by 50%, increase mag by 100%

[tardy ingot]

artek what

[dry pumice]

Nothing, just doing the short term solution of "gun damage big, make damage less, make shoot more"

[tardy ingot]

...

you just lower precision my man

take away some ammo/refill / max ammo if you want to

[past mesa]

Make scatter

[tardy ingot]

stops it from 2 shotting mom and demolishing tank

[past mesa]

The best wave clear gun

[tardy ingot]

yup

also basically doesnt change mom and or tank

[dry pumice]

In ideal world the should fix the stupid client bug, but they clearly can't so

[tardy ingot]

also dont you love a shotgun with 75+ dmg that has more ammo per refill than the actual shotgun

[past mesa]

R y kiaser or real

[tardy ingot]

what

[neon gust]

Make it burst fire

With a charge up

Oh wait

😩

[craggy pier]

REAL BLACK_DRAGON

[soft crater]

[grizzled patrol]

Make it inrease its accuracy the longer you Charge it. Would be funny to have Choke Scattergun

[soft crater]

My first thought was of a spartan laser but shotgun

[ocean spindle]

i'm bringing back this question cause it's funny
what happens if u just run away from the ||kraken|| in e2

does the level just goes

[dry pumice]

I've never considered the possibility. Maybe the doors locked until you kill it?

[civic wave]

kraken is required to be killed in main layer to progress the mission

it has already been tried spawning him in reactor and killing him there

[frail heart]

You can kill kraken during reactor but it is absolutely fucked up

Borderline impossible

[civic wave]

it's not a question of killing him

it's the fact that if you do it you're hard locked from completing the level

[frail heart]

What why

[civic wave]

#gtfo-related-questions message

[frail heart]

Oh

Yeah i misunderstood

I mean killing kraken while reactor is going

in normal spot

[civic wave]

ah

yeah dunno if I'd want to try that

[frail heart]

Its so fucked

Waves spawn on top of you

Because of the way the map is

Past the second class 6 reactor enemies can spawn on you

So its possible to kill kraken during reactor, I already have a strat for if thats even possible, but you would rather die

Its genuinely the hardest way to play any level in the game

By far

[civic wave]

idk, have you ever tried playing with pubs?

[frail heart]

Ah yeah mb

Second hardest

[raven ravine]

Am I missing something here or is the bat a better version of the knife?

I can chain kill sleepers as easily as if i had a knife and it's actually useful against giants.

[ocean spindle]

uh no not quite
knifes super super fast which servers immensely more for big groups of enemies if u time it well, and it does more damage to giants if u hit occi while sleep, so u kill em in about the same hits
it also has some pluses like que low noise which prevents some long range agro and backstab multi

[civic wave]

Knife is still workable against giants with back damage, has a nicer swing arc, and is still much faster for killing smalls

[ocean spindle]

if ur killing enemies the same speed with knife as bat that's kinda an issue on you since knife it's just faster

[civic wave]

Bat is better against locks and doors and for staggering enemies, but knife is far and away the better killing machine

[raven ravine]

Course the bat is a bit slower but it doesn't seem to be a deal breaker.

[civic wave]

Not for you, not for some other people, if you want to use bat then you can

Or become sledge pilled and abuse back damage

[ocean spindle]

really all three melees have a space now they shine in their own way

none of em are really overshadowed by the others

except spear which keeps being in the same hole

[raven ravine]

Hmm. Well as someone that usually mains a knife I was very surprised with how good the bat is.

[ocean spindle]

i used to main bat and then i was surprised at how good knife was kdmskdm

i guess it's just kinda of a thing of experimenting with weapons u never really gave a chance

so perspective just kinda changes

[raven ravine]

Oh for sure, my progression went spear to knife then hammer then back to knife. The things the knife was lackluster at imo the bat makes up for.

Fucking love this game so much.

[cobalt frigate]

Anyone know what type of flower is in the R7.0/8.0 Backpack terrarium?

I think the yellow variant is a golden Biden

[livid stone]

The golden what

[ocean spindle]

the flower in the flower backpack

so impressive to know it was president

[dry pumice]

It just looks like generic flowery flower that every kindergartener drew at some point - large petals and all that. Don't know what those are called in English...
Ромашка / Romashka, but anomalously large one.

[sage pulsar]

where can I find vids of people using hel gun (youtube doesnt have much)

[civic wave]

depends what kind of thing you're looking for but first thing off the top of my head is Gerzhull ALT R4E1 duo with Bread

hinoki also used hel gun for r4e1 duo, past that there's not really anything jumping into my mind

[sage pulsar]

my mastaba revolver is better than my hel gun atm so anything helps thx

[sage pulsar]

ah this one doesnt have hel gun POV but bread does

(wait are they the same run)

[hard nexus]

Shame on you comrade, chamomile is one of the best tea choices

[sage pulsar]

(no)(gerz is a maso for doing the duo with 2 diff people)

[civic wave]

I think gerz has only done the ALT r4e1 duo with bread

the og duo, uh she's done that with a few people

[ocean spindle]

is there 2 cscouts in the first zone of r8e2 or only one?

[strange jolt]

def more than one iirc

let me check

[dry pumice]

I think 2, but they can be in same room or different depending on RNG?

[strange jolt]

might just be spawning in C if you dont see it that often

[strange jolt]

yeah dropped into it in cconsole 4 times and its been consistently: 1 crawler, 1 normal, 2 charger

[frail heart]

yeah thats what it is

2nd is 3 charger

[strange jolt]

just wanted to see that there isnt a random +/-1

well there still might be

but i dont remember there being more scouts in my runs so

[ocean spindle]

oke thanks :3

[frail heart]

Na scout spawns are set in e2

always the same amount of scouts and same amount of each type

[ember hatch]

hello! so im in stage r2c1 and when I get to the terminals I have to verify X04 but when I type uplink_verify x04 nothing happens

[minor fractal]

When you exit terminal, where there would be text saying things such as "enter security scan to end alarm," there will be a bunch of options that includes your code.

X04 will correspond w/ a 4-letter word.

[ember hatch]

ooo

then i type uplink_verify 4letterword

[minor fractal]

Yep

[ember hatch]

ooOOOOooOooOo

also is there a recommended gun list? I still havent found a loadout I like. although i do enjoy the shotguns idk if theyre optimal

[arctic marten]

just don't use short rifle or burst pistol and you should be fine, people (including me) have a lot of conflicting opinions on which weapons are the absolute best

most people can agree that hel revo is the best main weapon tho

[ember hatch]

Ahh gotcha!

[arctic marten]

personally, I run hel revo with burst cannon, but i encourage you to try most guns at least once to see if there's some you really go off with

its way more important that you hit your shots rather than what you hit them with

[ember hatch]

i see

how far can I make it with bots? sometimes it takes too long to wait for a team in disc

[minor fractal]

Best-in-slot: HEL Revo / HEL Shotgun
Second-choice: HEL Autopistol / Carbine / Sawed-off

Best-in-slot: HEL Gun / HEL Rifle / Scattergun / Burst Cannon
Second-choice: Combat Shotgun / High Cal / Shotgun

[arctic marten]

no dtr?

for shame...

[dry pumice]

Agree with Ray. Although since when Veruta lost its crown?

[minor fractal]

Depends on your skill level, and if the content requires dividing attention (very rare).

[minor fractal]

I just think it's a garbage weapon, now. It was different in R7, when none of our choices were good, and being able to pick a general-use and spammable Special was good...

But now we have significantly better choices that play in a similar way, and the content we have access to is a lot more varied where weapons need to answer a wider variety of threats.

[soft crater]

combat shotgun

[upper ginkgo]

slept-on choice ngl

[minor fractal]

Like, if you have a big wave of 15+ enemies coming it at once...

[dry pumice]

I have it on good authority of personal experience that with average skill and decent understanding of how game works you can make it as far as R2D2.

But it will be hard

[minor fractal]

You could hold LMB on MG, and kill half-ish of that...

Or you could mag dump HEL Gun, and kill all of that in less time.

[upper ginkgo]

but i have to aim with hel gun !!! the horror!111

[dry pumice]

Unironically

Also I fucking wish it was full auto

Manually recharging it is soooo cringe

[upper ginkgo]

it's a balance decision

i personally like it since it gives me a split second to actually think

[soft crater]

I forget what charge up hel gun was at. But I recall my autoclicker macro just charged it up and shot it asap

Back to back

[upper ginkgo]

do i want to commit to this shot?

also charge up means less teammates die to friendly fire from hel weapons

[soft crater]

Me whether I shoot my friend or nah

[upper ginkgo]

real

[soft crater]

It'd be funnier

If they could hear my charge up

[upper ginkgo]

the amount of people i would've murdered on accident if hel gun didn't have that 0.2 delay

[soft crater]

[past mesa]

accident?

ACCident roll the clip

[upper ginkgo]

IT WAS HIM OR THE BABY WAVE

[arctic marten]

bc fires 3 bullets so your teammate can eat one and you still get the charger kill

[civic furnace]

you murdered me before :3 "thought you were a charger"

[upper ginkgo]

ok that was because i saw something dark breeze by me and that triggered my charger ptsd

[tardy ingot]

honestly anyone who doesnt has uhh, interesting opinions (or is a weird hel shotty stan)

[feral patrol]

Is there ever going to be another free GTFO weekend?

[tardy ingot]

[odd pasture]

only paid weekends from now on

[ocean spindle]

i would kinda doubt it since the two that happened were for importvnt updates, and those wont happen again

its possible but

idk

[past mesa]

Hel shotty

Is disgusting idk what to tell you

[past mesa]

Every time I get into a fuck position on hel rev I just think

I clear with Hel shotty

[hard nexus]

No one can match bishop with the hel iron on his hip

Hel iron on his hiiip

[soft crater]

Hel pp

[past mesa]

Yeah hel pp is cool but can you kill 6 chargers inside of you while rezing while killing an entire baby wave

[soft crater]

Hel shotgun just be different

[past mesa]

Hel shotty has some insane stuff going on

[soft crater]

The only downsides really being range/reload time

[past mesa]

Which range just don’t have a skill issue with shooters

And reload time

Take more than one hel shotty

[soft crater]

Out of ammo on your helshotty?
whips out combat shotty

[past mesa]

Yeah but it is very hard it be out of ammo in hel shotty

[soft crater]

Never fails to make me feel like Terry Cruz in his Expendables Aa12 scene

[lone mortar]

Power

[lofty mist]

Would y'all say bat is worth trying to master or is hammer just better overall?

[upper ginkgo]

aren't you anti-bat

[ocean spindle]

bats good for some missions and situations, specially if u play very cooperatively

it, as always, depends on both playstyle and mission

[lofty mist]

I want to change my ways 🥺

[ocean spindle]

:O

[hollow roost]

Erm knife?

[grizzled patrol]

Bat is such a parodoxic weapon. Its supposed to Support your teammates with stagger, but stagger works the best when you are alone

You think you have the Hit, but its arching from the other Side f you over

It Has the highest Environmental damage, but apparently Doors are Not Part of the enviroment

[tardy ingot]

Why would its stagger not just be for you

it makes salvaging any errors way easier

[strange jolt]

play with your team, tap swing any enemy that decides to wake up

pretty supportive

[grizzled patrol]

Why stagger, when you can Just full Charge and kill it

[tardy ingot]

Also, hammer and bat charged have the same environmental dmg. Its just that bat multi is higher (with lower base dmg)

But doors have a max dmg they take in vanilla. And once the environmental dmg reaches 15 it caps (bat no charge does 15, charged 60)

[tardy ingot]

Because charging takes time

and lets enemies potentially scream or attack

[livid stone]

Because you die

[grizzled patrol]

Not with the bat. It is pretty quick and you have enough time while its Walking Up. Stagger works best only on enemies that insta 180 on you

[livid stone]

Whats the difference between shoving with melee weapon and bat stagger

[tardy ingot]

it still a second

If an enemy is awake you want to stagger it immediatly if theres risk of a scream. Tap

[tardy ingot]

Shove - no dmg, raises stamina, slows down follow up hits

Tap - dmg, quick stagger chain while killing, „easier to miss“

[tardy ingot]

I also thought you meant hammer with charging and 1 shotting tbf

[grizzled patrol]

Bat = diet Hammer. I See why its easy to confuse

[tardy ingot]

At this point theres enough distinction honestly

pre stagger nerf on hammer it was definetly just diet hammer

[grizzled patrol]

Would be nice If 10c would buff it and make it BE able to stagger my alcoholism

[ocean spindle]

om nom nom foam grenades

[soft crater]

Become one with the beeg foam blob

[ember hatch]

Good morning you guys! hey just curious what does the artifact heat mean?

[hidden ridge]

Ever played Payday 2?

[ember hatch]

i havent

[hidden ridge]

Remember how doing the same heist over and over gave less rewards? It's that but for boosters

Basically the more often you try (even without successfully clearing) a level, the lower it gets, and it's a multiplier towards booster progress

[ocean spindle]

its a way to measure how valuable are artifacts to the progress of a booster
for example
100% artifact heat means one artifact gives 0.15% of a booster
but 50% artifact heat means one artifact will give 0.07
when the number hits 1.00, a booster is given.

[ember hatch]

ahhhh ok i see

[subtle saddle]

hey guys, new to the game and just ran through the first couple of missions (R1A1-B2) with bots. Escaped by the skin of my teeth in the last one lmao but I did it
Tbh I'm just looking for general tips because I think I have no idea wtf I'm doing. Like loadouts & general strategies because I swear I'm just getting decked and surviving by pure luck

[ocean spindle]

some of the simplest advice is using every weapon at least a couple times, all of em are usable really except for like two or three, so experiment have fun :3
the other which is something no one really notices, when u wanna kill an enemy make sure their friends aren't glowin, if they are it has a chance of waking up, so u can sync em with ur flashlight, take the kill when everyone's not glowin and then go along

[unreal gazelle]

hanimoon advanced players guide

[ocean spindle]

on tools foam and mines can create a very very powerful combo if you have doors to close, since you can reinforce and mine em, but of course this won't work on levels without doors

[unreal gazelle]

darkeva stealth guide too probably

[past mesa]

Hold w

Learn hel gun

always be charging

[grizzled patrol]

My Personal advice is to not Just leave dealing with the Terminals and Scouts to others. many beginners get scared them and then will never bother actually learning it

[subtle saddle]

ya i've kinda just decided to run through all the weapons, but are weapon loadouts, in terms of the actual guns, preference or do you actually have to pick depending on the lvl? or does it not really matter

[subtle saddle]

best advice 10/10 learnt that one p quick ngl

[frail heart]

scatter

dont think

hel shot and scatter

[subtle saddle]

i actually like using the terminals but ive kinda accepted if there's a scout in the room I'm just clearing what i can and shooting it because I learnt v quickly those tentacles are not for show-

[unreal gazelle]

start trying to melee scouts

it is not that difficult with practice, very predictable enemy

[ocean spindle]

they usually depend on the level, mostly for the specials
for mains it's mostly taste apart from sawed off, hel shottie etc cause those do depend a bit more on the setting, but specials do rely almost exclusively on what u need for the level, big dmg, wave clear, etc etc

usually there's some standouts like on every game but still on specials it's very hard to choose a best one

on mains hel revo, hel shotgun, hel autopistol, sawed off, those are the main standouts

[frail heart]

and carbine

[ocean spindle]

i knew i forgot one

[subtle saddle]

i'm guessing just rush em and figure out the timing? the one time i tried hitting a scout was the first and last time

[unreal gazelle]

pretty much, there are many ways to do it

need to remember melee break points though
hammer/spear can kill to front of head
knife/bat only kill to back of head

[subtle saddle]

cool, i'll try those out next time

[subtle saddle]

had no idea about that thanks for the tips tho, i'll get back to suffering when I get the time

[ocean spindle]

a good r1 level to practice scouts in a1

it has some enemies, and u have to get through one alarm

but it has two in that second zone

[subtle saddle]

can you stagger scouts or is that a no?

[ocean spindle]

once awaken yes, but with melee and asleep not really

theres guns that can technically stagger scouts before they scream like hel shottie

but its not worth it

a melee oneshot its just safer, that or just shoot em with a more dmg weapon

im really fuckin sleepy img

[subtle saddle]

I've just been taking a sniper to deal with scouts and then clearing the room every time

guess i gotta start hitting them now lol

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats not the only weapon that can kill em

[grizzled patrol]

Scouts are squishier than they Look. One high cal to the head and they drop dead

[ocean spindle]

tbh i would recommend stayin away from the sniper its the one outlier in the special weapons

other weapons serve its purpose too

[ocean spindle]

one high cal, choke mod, hel rifle, burst cannon in the body, scattergun in the body, pump shottie...

even slug shotgun at close range

[grizzled patrol]

Tbh Almost every single Special weapon can kill it

Even stuff Like high rpm machinegun

I can think only of Like 3 or 4 guns that cant

[ocean spindle]

yea but its more dangerous without oneshot weapons

might as well melee then

[subtle saddle]

aight cool

i needed to try out other special weapons tbh

[upper ginkgo]

it's a good idea to learn the entire roster

[ocean spindle]

its very fun trying a ton of funky weapons for the first time :]

[civic furnace]

Voxy is a professional at all weapons

[upper ginkgo]

:3

[civic furnace]

:3

[ocean spindle]

:3

[subtle saddle]

also i just remembered, but is there a way to stealth the huge shooters solo? unless i fucked it up, i didn't manage it then the bots started shooting and i kinda got swarmed

[subtle saddle]

[upper ginkgo]

sorta?

you need to hit double occi

[ocean spindle]

with bots its hard to keep em staggered tbh, since unlike giants they move a ton fuck and hittin the occi is very tricky

but they pretty much harmless on their own, id say clear everything around em and then focus em

[odd pasture]

mmm chicken

[ocean spindle]

just as long as u keep moving and full chargin, u should be fine

[odd pasture]

[tardy ingot]

Probably

[subtle saddle]

aight 😅 I smacked the crap out of one then 5 more appeared and aggro'd so it was just an oh shit moment

[subtle saddle]

aye aye 🫡

[ocean spindle]

yeah giants are usually the very last thing to tackle in bot runs, just if anything goes wrong u can shoot knowin everything else is dead

with a team its a lot more secure to get em right away

[past mesa]

Yeah

Every scout you can hold w minus one where you can hold w if you are on good ping

[tardy ingot]

@subtle saddle i definetly agree with a lot of the advice here (that isnt memes n fun)

Try out all the guns and test a lot

If you are interested in the general opinions on guns (how good they are, which guns to pick for what enemy) then theres videos on that aswell.
(Beware spoilers tho)
Test first, then check stuff out tho to build your own favourites (ugh spear disgusting)

Id recommend finding some players on here (or friends) as bots at some point become a hinderance and in other parts are legit impossible without exploits or cheese.

[tardy ingot]

isnt it 2?

you cant rly hold w on c-scout

[past mesa]

you can if two people do

[tardy ingot]

unless you account for multiple people

but then you could meme about n-scouts with 4 players aswell

[subtle saddle]

yeah i figured bots can get p restrictive after a while

[subtle saddle]

I'm not even going to ask what that is

[ocean spindle]

u will see :D laters

[subtle saddle]

yay :D

[halcyon current]

Have there been any notable GTFO updates in the last couple of months and is there any level yall consider a good warm up level?

[ocean spindle]

good warm upppp, probs r8b2 if u got it unlocked, very diverse level in combat but also sneaking and its just really fun

[halcyon current]

I don't believe I do but it's only a b tier so I can either get it fast or be warmed up by the time I get there

Tyty

No notable updates then?

[ocean spindle]

not really no
the biggest update was sniper being buffed and then it got nerfed 20 minutes after

[halcyon current]

Fucking lmao

They really don't like that thing, huh?

[ocean spindle]

it at least had a couple days to be fun

[halcyon current]

As long as HCP is still good I'll figure myself out

[ocean spindle]

yeah hcp its still the same

[halcyon current]

Ty Slendi

[ocean spindle]

oke have fun in b2

[soft crater]

Well.

Sniper was indirectly buffed.

Sniper was just the only weapon to benefit from it really.

[ocean spindle]

very indirectly but directly

[tardy ingot]

Thats why i didnt put out the full name

[tardy ingot]

the buff was accidental

The nerf was intentional

[past mesa]

It is actually the funny zoom scout that I am refuting to as the only scout you can w key

[tardy ingot]

[soft crater]

Tumor change was accidental?

Or rather they just didn't realize how stupid sniper was gonna be with it

Hence why I said indirectly

[sage pulsar]

Fuck me

[past mesa]

No thanks tho

[soft crater]

I'm guessing wrong server?

[sage pulsar]

[unreal gazelle]

did i miss something again

[narrow niche]

Ok~

Sorry

[narrow niche]

Thought you never missed?

[unreal gazelle]

i have no idea what you mean

[narrow niche]

No comment

[unreal gazelle]

you confuse me

[ocean spindle]

i do miss

i am bad

[tardy ingot]

huh?

No id argue sniper buff with it was accidental

[halcyon current]

With the limited context I have for this I'd say if they didn't directly change the stats of a weapon to make it more viable it's an incidental buff and not a purposeful one.

If they did directly change a weapon to make it more viable it's a direct buff

[civic furnace]

:3

[ocean spindle]

:3

[subtle saddle]

:3

[halcyon current]

:3

[tardy ingot]

thats why the first change id argue is accidental

But the 2nd one was with claim to stop it from destroying bosses

[soft crater]

Eva when Eva skipped me saying it was indirect

But accidental works as well

[tardy ingot]

ah, sry was on a bus ride with bad connection

[soft crater]

It's all good

[ocean spindle]

smh get of the bus then :3

[soft crater]

I'm at work

[ocean spindle]

smh get of the work then :3

[ocean spindle]

how many enemies are there in the r7d1 error for the first X?

[silk radish]

Accidental buff or not, I really think sniper was fine with 3-shotting mom, I really would have preferred it's damage stay uncapped.
It certain'ly wasn't stronger than scattergun which can 2 shot

[ocean spindle]

bit late innit

[silk radish]

It is indeed too late to do anything about it

[frail heart]

It wouldve made 2 OP guns

fix now is giving sniper 3 mag and lowering scatter prec damage

[jagged shore]

sniper 2 mag is still the worst change to the game with r8

[past mesa]

It was very very strong as much as we joke you actually have to be next to a mom

With scatter which tiggers birth but cross map snipes doesn’t have that

Not to mention it also destroys tank balance which scatter tank is at least scary when done wrong

[frail heart]

yeah

you have to be very good with scatter to make tanks not scary

[unreal gazelle]

i am not sure how true that is, but yes it is more scary than sniper

[soft crater]

definitely haven't seen people just Hold W with scatter gun towards a Tank and just Die

[ocean spindle]

thts pro gmers

[unreal gazelle]

they are pubs, what do you expect

[soft crater]

The issue is. Those same people don't check if they're rushing infront of other teammates shooting

So it isn't always the Tank that kills them.

[unreal gazelle]

#gtfo-media message

that was with high stagger hammer though

tbh if you run up to tank and die to friendly fire then there is nothing to say

you either ran in front of burst cannon or you are getting griefed

[past mesa]

100%

You can just kill tank with scatter but if you don’t know what is up

You can just die

[ocean spindle]

that sounds like a threat

[frail heart]

Eh i mean literally just a 1cm wide pole and tank doesnt hit you

also taking advantage of stagger is so nice

[strange jolt]

i dont think the word youre looking for is skill, probably comfort

[frail heart]

lemme rephrase. you have to be very good with tanks

like you wrangle them hoes like mf tf2 engi

[quartz prairie]

like what

[frail heart]

like tf2 engi

[quartz prairie]

I'm something of an engi myself

[frail heart]

Do you play mvm?

[quartz prairie]

nah fuck that

four euros for a ticket ain't worth it

[frail heart]

FOUR EUROS

[quartz prairie]

and you have no idea how toxic fuckers are

[frail heart]

BRO YOU ARE GETTING SCAMMED

[quartz prairie]

as in four tickets

[frail heart]

also yes there are some very toxic mvm players

[frail heart]

oh

yeah its worth tbh

[quartz prairie]

I took one tour and switched it with ticket

I'm an idiot

but I don't think it is worth it at all

[odd pasture]

sad scam game

[frail heart]

its fun

Ive made money off of it

When marketplace.tf was open to anyone to sell

[quartz prairie]

that's the good scenario

[frail heart]

I profited like $80 over a couple weeks

[quartz prairie]

maybe just my luck but that plus the idiots with the mEtA make me not want to bother

[frail heart]

i mean just dont be a noob

also marketplace.tf prices were so high

so you could make money off of it easily

[quartz prairie]

I guess

still , I don't wanna induce migranes to myself because I get votekicked for not using the community agreed upon weapons

[frail heart]

some classes have set weapons that you should be using so the game doesnt feel like ass

[quartz prairie]

oh yeah definitely

[frail heart]

but the worst is a pyro with 1 tour playing stock and shotgun

[quartz prairie]

but come on they don't have to be enforced like fucking laws

[frail heart]

1 tours literally always play pyro for some reason

[frail heart]

they dont, but you cant be surprised when people get annoyed when you wipe bc of it

[quartz prairie]

My favorite one so far was getting votekicked for placing my dispenser five meters away in a safer position for it and everyone else

[frail heart]

Eh

It was probably not in a good pos tbh

Even i get annoyed at that

But not votekick worthy tbh

[quartz prairie]

I don't know what servers you're in man but I've gotten cursed out , my family wished to hell , and even death threats for not using some weapon

I don't remember anymore which one

but I'm not bad at the game so they can't use that as an excuse

[frail heart]

Yeah I haven't experienced that much bc i use meta stuff lol but ive seen it happen to others

Theres things on certain classes that you use no matter what

But thats a few

like shield on medic

dispenser range on engi

[quartz prairie]

yeah duh , but those are upgrades you have access to anyway

[frail heart]

having gas passer on pyro

[quartz prairie]

I've seen , so many arguments over pyros using that

even tho it is just good

[frail heart]

Some people dont like others using it bc it is OP

But those people just whine tbh

If my pyro isnt using it I question their existence

[quartz prairie]

but you gotta use the meta or you're a son of a whore

mvm players' logic surprises me

[frail heart]

Just play a class that doesnt have huge impact due to weapons

Like soldier

[quartz prairie]

yeah

[frail heart]

or scout

[quartz prairie]

I don't play it anymore tho

too many idiots

[frail heart]

Fair

I have good experiences usually

especially recently

[quartz prairie]

God I'm jealous

[frail heart]

had a few racists and the occasional "DID YOU KNOW F4 IS SO EASY TO PRESS" people

[quartz prairie]

maybe just me but I from the not that many tours I've been on ran into idiots

[quartz prairie]

I think I've heard the n word more times than other vc treats

one guy especially

he had a fat voice too

[frail heart]

LMAO

they always sound like white american jocks

[quartz prairie]

oh no

[frail heart]

probably get no love from their parents

[quartz prairie]

you can hear it

in their voice

[frail heart]

yeah lmao

its always the whitest mfs

[quartz prairie]

it's more amazing than annoying honestly

[frail heart]

yeah

i just troll them

my go to is just hitting on them aggressively

they really dont like it

[quartz prairie]

define "hitting on them aggressively"

[frail heart]

just like saying they're really hot and i wanna do stuff to them

[quartz prairie]

CaseOh stream level aggressive or

[frail heart]

Example:
Racist - "nword"
Me - "Oh yeah I like when you talk dirty to me come over here so I can play with your balls big boy"

[dry pumice]

.t dow

[uneven gulch]

Learn more about Den of Wolves, the next title by 10 Chambers - a techno-thriller heist game.

• https://DenofWolves.com
• https://discord.gg/DenofWolves

[frail heart]

.t dms

[quartz prairie]

yeah , caseOh level aggressive

got it

[frail heart]

cant go soft on them

[quartz prairie]

amen to that

[frail heart]

its better when they start getting angry

[quartz prairie]

I should start doing that too to be honest

[frail heart]

yeah lmao

it works with anything

i just troll by talking dirty

[quartz prairie]

I mostly just question the way of their thinking and for some

very very unknown reason

the whole lobby sides with him when he vote kicks me

[frail heart]

eh

its worth it

you gotta do it properly tho

no joke do it with a southern accent

makes it way better

deep southern accent

[quartz prairie]

oh naaaw

you know what's even better ?

My very strong hungarian accent

Screams center europe

[dry pumice]

WTF are you people talking about

[quartz prairie]

don't ask

[dry pumice]

I haven't read deeply enough, but it appears like you trying to find a way to get yourself banned from... Everything, really.

With training procedures even!

[frail heart]

Maybe read a little

[quartz prairie]

oh you haven't heard of tf2 mvm matches ?

you lucky soul

[frail heart]

And you would see we are talking about trolling racists

[dry pumice]

Ah. No, i only played casual / boot camp

[quartz prairie]

good

let it stay that way

trust me you do not want to know

the amount of time I've got called the word bad people say to citizens of african american ancestry is surprisingly a lot

[dry pumice]

Oh i can imagine

[frail heart]

Mvm is fun tho

and getting loot is fun

[quartz prairie]

I should play tf2 again sometime

maybe pubstomp a little

[frail heart]

Nightmare is also fun

Dude i used to be a market gardener king

rocket jumping master

im so rusty now tho

[dry pumice]

I tried getting good with Dragon's Fury, and unfortunately i just keep proving myself that i'm incapable of using projectile based weaponry

[hidden ridge]

isn't this a bit racist to say?

[quartz prairie]

tell me about it

[dry pumice]

EIther hitscan or extreme saturation fire, none inbetween

[frail heart]

In the context no

[quartz prairie]

well it is but it's against white people so it's "okay"

jokes aside tho

[frail heart]

The context is that its ironic that its always white people in this gamemode saying racist slurs that were used by white people against african americans

[quartz prairie]

yeah

I remember trying to learn rocket jumping when rick died to honor him

turns out I'm not too good at it

[lofty mist]

In context it’s definitely not racist to call white mfs who spam racial slurs “white as fuck”

[frail heart]

RIP the legend

[quartz prairie]

thank you bumblegoot , very based of you

[frail heart]

Im happy I was a soldier main

[quartz prairie]

yeah

soldier is fun

[soft crater]

I'm disappointed I wasn't a PC player back then

[ocean spindle]

r7d2 its not
a 'retrieve item' objective

we all agree right

its a more of a 'process item'

[hazy wedge]

It’s a get fucked objective

[ocean spindle]

:D

[dry pumice]

D2... D2....

Is that the 25 minute run of hell?...

Get usb, stick usb in hole, go home.

"Process item" is... a fair assesment. Can't really come up with anything better, but it really feels like it stretches the definition of "an item" considering how we often we deal with ACTUAL items, that take up your hands and shit.

[grizzled patrol]

Personally i wont list it as Processing, since that flashdrive was only for a Terminal command. The Drive itself does Not Change, its only the Mainframe that is affected

Otherwise reactor shutdown/start Up would Fall under it aswell

Purely gameplay-wise, all what that flashdrive does, is Lifting a lockdown on a single door

[frail heart]

yeah but you also use it at the end

thats the main purpose

[native sun]

IIRC it is a retrieve item in terms of how the game handles objectives.

Technically grabbing the stick at the start is just an interaction which opens the door, there isn't actually anything in your inventory. And then plugging the stick at the end is you picking up a invisible item which completes the objective (like you would a hard drive or ID).

idk it's kinda weird to categorize the objectives in this game

[dry pumice]

Tldr:
R7D2 objective is officially "GRAB THE MEMORY STICK"

[sage pulsar]

which run to extract is harder, r6a1 or r7a1

[hidden ridge]

I wouldn't really call it a "run to extract" in R6A1 case

It's a walk, it's just that the waves are harder than R7A1 but you need to defend longer

I'd say out of the two "ending" sections, R7A1's easier but whatever

[sage pulsar]

they are both walks arent they?

[hidden ridge]

I mean one has you go through long ass zones, foir

the other it's literally a zone some meters away

Are you sure you mean those 2 maps?

[sage pulsar]

I seldom make it to r6a1 ending so eh

r7 I've finished, is that the long one?

[hidden ridge]

For all that it's worth I soloed R7A1 without much issues

Never tried R6A1 but I could see it being harsher

[hidden ridge]

R7A1 is lab, get the baby to the thingy, starts error then you go back to start

[sage pulsar]

i know

[hidden ridge]

Yes R7A1 is a much longer distance

From start of error to extraction

R6A1 is basically next door

But R6A1's last alarm I remember being nastier than R7A1's

[tardy ingot]

R6A1 walk has no enemies
But the defense is „tough“ (full wave + some arriving once scan is nearly over)

R7A1 is a walk through the whole map (straight line) with a small error. You can litteray not kill anything until extract if a bit lucky.
Issues can come from giants spawning.
Plus you are carrying smth with enemies on you, so if you are solo youll have to drop and pick up again if in combat

[white quiver]

Hey there, quick question. Is the occiput damage multiplier affected by your strike angle like the backstab multiplier or is it always x2 ? thanks

[ocean spindle]

occiput it's just the back damage and the head damage together, and since the back damage is the one that decreases depending on your angle, yes it can change i believe

[tardy ingot]

in essence
Its math

[ocean spindle]

the backstab multi of the knife idk if it changes on angle tho

i wouldnt think so but i have no idea

[tardy ingot]

head crit multi (if there) x backstab multi (depends on angle) x dmg

[white quiver]

thanks to both of you

[tardy ingot]

and well precision multi, sleeping multi (knife) and backstab extra multi (also knife) play into effect aswell

[ocean spindle]

i think it's important to differentiate the back multiplier [which just depends on hitting the back with melee or weaponry]
and the backstab multi, which only the knife has

[white quiver]

yes ofc

thanks for answering that about the occiput

[civic wave]

there's a wiki page on back damage which has more in depth explanation

[tardy ingot]

Actually that makes me thing

does knife get backstab multi on enemies that dont have a backdmg multi

[white quiver]

I've read it but it wasnt clear if the occiput was affected by "your angle" like the back multi

[ocean spindle]

i imagine not since since those enemies don't have a back hit box?

[white quiver]

not sure if the knife backstab multi is affected by the angle too

[ocean spindle]

i mean speculation but

ah

i doubt

[white quiver]

i doubt it too 🤔

[tardy ingot]

Tru would probably know

[ocean spindle]

i imagine the backstab multi is just a check if u hit the back of the enemy at all but with this game u never know

[civic wave]

occiput is just back damage stacked on top of precision damage

as far as I know occi does not function differently than back damage because it is quite literally just back damage, unless I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to figure out

[white quiver]

isn't precision damage and head multiplier two seperate things ? but I get what you're saying

[civic wave]

oh god uh

they can be used synonymously to mean the same thing

[white quiver]

precision comes from weapon, head multi from the enemy 🤔 sorry if I confused you :S

anyway, thanks to all of you for the answers 🙂

[civic wave]

head multiplier in specific would be the multiplier on the enemy
precision multiplier would be the multiplier on the gun/weapon
and precision damage would be the product of multiplication of the enemy precision/head multiplier, the weapon precision multiplier, and the weapon's base damage

[ocean spindle]

terminology check >:]

[tardy ingot]

It depends

Precision dmg is applied on all actual head crits (noticeably this excludes chargers)

Precision dmg works on other things (tumors) too tho

[civic wave]

so yeah, precision multiplier (enemy/gun)

[ocean spindle]

get ur multipliers right kids

[tardy ingot]

Then weapon have a precision multi aswell

its why i usually say head/crit multi (enemy) and prec multi (weapons)

[white quiver]

gotcha

[tardy ingot]

Isnt precision dmg just the base dmg x its prec multi?

[civic wave]

I guess it would be, but if you're shooting an enemy then

[tardy ingot]

thats how its usually handled

[civic wave]

idk fuck this

[tardy ingot]

[soft crater]

(Weakpoint multi x weapon precision multi) x gun base dmg

But I prefer weapon precision multi giving me a base precision dmg of a gun to use against all the weakpoint multis of enemies

[dry pumice]

Tldr:

Back damage is a universal mechanic where any enemy takes up to x2 extra damage based on how behind them you are.

Precision multi (weapon) is a unique stat that every weapon has where it multiplies damage by an X amount when it hits a weakpoint (head or tumor).

Precision multi (enemy) is a weakpoint multilayer unique to every enemy.

All of these 3 work independently, resulting in the final total damage you deal.

[unreal gazelle]

where any enemy apart from a few specific enemies because there's always exceptions*

this game sucks

[dry pumice]

So if I have a gun that deals 10 damage and x0.7 multi and shoot a shooter from behind I deal:
10 x 0.7 x 5 x 2 = 70 damage

[ocean spindle]

not like u even know what's the back on the enemies that don't have back dmg
wtf is the back of a mother, how do u get to the back of a kraken or a baby

[unreal gazelle]

i love shooting tanks in the back, it's the best place to shoot them

[dry pumice]

Tanks have always been a curious case, but then it doesn't really matter. If you can hit it - you shoot it.

[unreal gazelle]

tumours = no back damage

is the simple rule

[frail heart]

me when nightmares

[tardy ingot]

dont they work like heads practically

you can over damage them aswell contrary to tumors

[frail heart]

yeah i think

[dry pumice]

One of the most based enemy designs. Shame they are exclusive to R8.

[lofty mason]

Can i ask what is the weird noise in alt rundown 4 @@

[ocean spindle]

which level?

[waxen cipher]

hi slendi

[lofty mason]

Like r4a1 there often some noise, my friend thought it belong to some kind of monster

[ocean spindle]

hello :D

[ocean spindle]

just like bangings on the distance n stuff?

or actual like screams of monsters

[lofty mason]

Yep mostly banging sound, sometime there a few scream too but not as much as banging sound

[waxen cipher]

slendi do u know why i can oneshot chargers if i shoot them in the mouth with precision rifle

[unreal gazelle]

i do not think the maths works on that one

must be weak charger

[ocean spindle]

chargers dont have any kind of head for that purpose

they just a torso

i think its a 3 shot from front

[waxen cipher]

wait then why did they die from one shot

[unreal gazelle]

30 hp, 13 damage

[waxen cipher]

that doesn't make sense

[unreal gazelle]

because somebody already shot charger

[waxen cipher]

nothing was broken tho

[ocean spindle]

banging its spooky scawwy :]
screams signify when enemies spawn, u heard em when u pulled alarms

[unreal gazelle]

yes if i shoot charger 4 times in the chest nothing breaks

[waxen cipher]

oh

weird

[ocean spindle]

depends

[unreal gazelle]

not every part of enemy is destructible

[ocean spindle]

it mustve been weird for the charger to not explode

either chest or head

couldnt have been oneshot without 110% boosters or so

[lofty mason]

Wow playing in maximum fov is giving me headache @@

[ocean spindle]

100 fov is about the max without fish eye

playing from there to like 65 70 or so its usually standart

[past mesa]

You should trying playing at 179 fov

[livid stone]

You get used to it.. not the biggest headache anyways

[unreal gazelle]

high fov is fine

or maybe it is just adaptation to better spot people who are going to discriminate against you, hm

[past mesa]

It is mathematically the best thing in the game higher fov is just better

[lofty mason]

When i start play this game i really thought that higher fov make me run faster :v

[native sun]

It's already been fairly well answered, but the way I'd put it is that there isn't an occiput multi, occiput multi is just a short hand term for when you're getting both the back multi and head/prec multi. So yes, the back part still depends on angle.

[native sun]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier#Backstab_Multiplier

[native sun]

Damage gets capped before back multi is applied. But it still gets capped. Tumors with back damage are still tumors.

Of course, we don't have any weapons that actually hit the cap, so it doesn't matter.

[lofty mason]

What is the most broken main weap and special weap in you guys opinion

[tardy ingot]

Hel revo/hel shotgun
Scattergun/hel gun

not rly much of an opinion once you get past these 4 lol

[lofty mason]

Oh the hel gun sound strong i might try it

[minor fractal]

HEL Rifle and BC are around as busted, tbh.

BC not quite as much as the other three, but it's very strong.

[ocean spindle]

it's funny how the perception of hel rifle just went up and up and up and up from r3

from "it's ok but basically only for chargers" to "yeah it's top tier"

[minor fractal]

Pub HEL Rifle players are just incredibly bad.

[ocean spindle]

i get it but it's funny

[ocean spindle]

me :D

soy yo

[minor fractal]

Still to this day, if you get a pub w/ HEL Rifle, there's good odds they'll jack shit w/ it the whole game.

It's so sad.

[ocean spindle]

tbh the main reason i never go with it even in perfect levels for it a la r5b3

i miss every shot

even if i take my time i am so bad with it

[upper ginkgo]

you don't even need to get heads with it lol

it's the quintessential p*b weapon

[sturdy glen]

everyone just sucks with hel rifle yea

[ocean spindle]

so real

thats why i play chokemod

[upper ginkgo]

just point and click smh

[ocean spindle]

its hard ok :[

[jaunty tapir]

What would be an ideal gun for all main damage boosters?

[ocean spindle]

hel revo for 13+ cause i think u oneshot strikers with that
dmr for any main booster dmg u oneshot strikers

[soft crater]

To the head*

[ocean spindle]

yes

maybe 50% main dmg slug would be good cause 30 dmg

but i doubt its that useful

[weak mountain]

Should I buy this game?

[upper ginkgo]

meh

[civic furnace]

Yes so you can play Voxy :3

[weak mountain]

huh

[weak mountain]

lol wat

[civic furnace]

I got the game to play with Voxy (was hoping you would relate)

[weak mountain]

oh haha, i hear you its better to play with people. I just didnt have anyone to play with thast why i was hesitant on buying lol

[weak mountain]

.

[civic furnace]

True, voxy does make me play worse but it’s challenging

Worth the money :3

[sage pulsar]

you'll find friends in here

yall what are some okay solo stages? finished r6a1, r7a1, r1a1, r1b1

[tardy ingot]

R1B2, R2A1, R3A1, R4As, R5A1, R5A2, R6B1, R7B1, R8A1

[sage pulsar]

(are you sure the class4 alarm with minimum 2 entrances in r2a1 is okay)

[frail heart]

I mean people speedrun that level solo so yeah

[unreal gazelle]

alarm class is not everything, check out r8a1 lol

[frail heart]

r8a1 is dookie just because you are fuckin doing scans in the deep amazon rainforest

[neon gust]

No

[strange jolt]

hey guys quick question is gtfo good or bad?

i really wish there was someone in here to remind me

[sage pulsar]

it depends

[strange jolt]

thats not definite enough for me

[lone mortar]

Its bad

Done

[strange jolt]

phrase it properly

like how he used to 🥺

[lone mortar]

Gtfo bad

[sage pulsar]

I heard it goes well with cola

[lone mortar]

[strange jolt]

ty kaiser

[zinc fractal]

Got a bug where my use resource key only gives myself even when i hover over my teammate. It didnt do that before and my teammate still had e has his use on himself and ally, is there anyway to fix that?

[lone mortar]

How did you know it was me

My disguise is not enough

[strange jolt]

if its persistent you probably need to rejoin or restart game

gtfo bad it is what it is

[zinc fractal]

ik cuz shitty devs. I have tried restarting, reinstalling, verifying game files

[hard nexus]

Try vsync

[strange jolt]

you did all that and it was still happening?

[zinc fractal]

yep

[sage pulsar]

how long was the game open by then?

[zinc fractal]

not even 2 min

And i tried restarting pc as well

vsync was off so ill try it with that

[civic wave]

You turned separate use hotkey on under game settings

So either you use the alternative keybind, or you turn it off and only use 1 key

Problem solved

[zinc fractal]

using only 1 key lets say only have 'use self' key on and ally use off. u will not be able to give ally resources. Vice versa

[sage pulsar]

what is this hotkey sorcery I don't understand

[zinc fractal]

ill send a recording once i find a resource pack

[civic wave]

No. The default is that one hotkey is used for both and you give to teammates once they're in range. Toggling the setting forces you to use a different key for giving to yourself and giving to a teammate

[tardy ingot]

[zinc fractal]

Thats exactly what i mean, its not doing that anymore

[tardy ingot]

have you tried just resetting those settings

[zinc fractal]

yes

recording now

[civic wave]

Have you checked your bindings to make sure nothing has become unbound

[zinc fractal]

all default settings and checked, only minor change is my parry and crouch keybind

[sage pulsar]

when tf did we have parry

[hard nexus]

Need for speed has

[tardy ingot]

shove?

[sage pulsar]

prob

[tardy ingot]

not rly a parry but close enough

[sage pulsar]

imagine blocking hits in this game

[zinc fractal]

meant shove mb

[hard nexus]

Parry with door

[sage pulsar]

oh yeah

[zinc fractal]

oh, i cant put video in this chat

ill pput it in short clips

[hard nexus]

#gtfo-media

[sage pulsar]

do sleepers ever change path if you close the door on them

[hard nexus]

Sometimes

[tardy ingot]

yes

well

you need them to have another open door connecting to the same room you are in from the room they are in

and they cant be too close to the door you are closing

otherwise they get sucked into and stuck on it

[zinc fractal]

Originally the e key was able to both use the resource on yourself and if u hover over a teammate it gives the resources. This is not the case even with original default settings

[hard nexus]

So you can just bait 2 doors instead of cfoam

Supa strats

[sage pulsar]

the doors are 30m apart😭

[hard nexus]

Just have 2 guys do it

[zinc fractal]

alright its in gtfo media

[sage pulsar]

I don't have two guys

[hard nexus]

Two girls then

Two doors 1 wave

[sage pulsar]

when have you seen 2 girls in one vc in here

[hard nexus]

I can't see voice but they would prob be mute or some shit

I had one girl in matchmaking the other day

[civic wave]

I've definitely seen some lobbies with multiple women in

[zinc fractal]

i also have previous recordings from streams using e for both self and teammates

[civic wave]

Same for lobbies with multiple non binary people

[turbid jasper]

why is this game so much fun?

[hard nexus]

Yes

No

Sorry

[zinc fractal]

and to no surprise ignored

[hard nexus]

Dead server

[civic wave]

In the gameplay settings tab do you have the option "Separate use keybinds" on or off?

[hidden ridge]

Am I missing something?

What Pachi said, basically?

It's the norm to have E do both

[civic wave]

I mean I'm still trying to think through and make sure I am both understanding what your problem is and how to fix it

[zinc fractal]

and thats the problem, its not doing both

ill check the gameplay setting tab rq

[civic wave]

And then the problem mysteriously fixes

With the first thing I mentioned

[zinc fractal]

well the thing is its supposed to use the same keybind, not separate

[civic furnace]

Great development team !! :3

[zinc fractal]

Like Sleepo said, the norm is both having E

[civic wave]

Yes, so turn "Separate use keybinds" off, and it will use E for both

Irrespective of what keybind use on ally is

[zinc fractal]

that has been disabled by default

shii man

and no that didnt work

[civic wave]

You made sure you didn't accidentally enable it?

Idk open the configuration file and change options there or something, I'll be back when I'm done with my morning routine

[zinc fractal]

copy

push comes to shove ill try to debug it, if i can find their horrendous spaghetti code

[civic furnace]

You could also try just restoring to default

[zinc fractal]

Already been tried

[civic furnace]

Ou then me clueless :3

[hidden ridge]

Unless you have a mod that fucks up with keybinds, it shouldn't be an issue

[zinc fractal]

No mods, og files

[hidden ridge]

What does it show exactly

When you try to use a pack on someone else

[zinc fractal]

yeah, and the separate use keybind is disabled

[hidden ridge]

Restart the game and try again, weird

I mean

turn that on, restart, turn it off, restart

[civic wave]

Maybe close game, delete your config file, relaunch game, see if it helps

[hidden ridge]

Just saw your video

[civic wave]

Config file has all your settings so

[zinc fractal]

ill fuck around with their spaghetti code after i mess with config files

appreciate it for the help

[dry pumice]

If HEL Rev were to be deleted - what would be the next go-to meta main?

[grizzled patrol]

carbine

[frail heart]

slug

[tardy ingot]

carbine and dmr for general use

hel shotty standout as the incredibly broken thing.

sawed off would also rise a bit

[dry pumice]

Fair.

[ocean spindle]

does the lights off command deactivate corrupt scans?

that would be funny

[grizzled patrol]

does the deactivate alarms command work on them tho

[civic wave]

I don't believe it would

I think it's just funny thing in e2 being synced with light timings

Or rather scans and lights are tied to the same effect

[ocean spindle]

and their own function tunrin off the lights i imagine yes

idk

im gonna check on d1 cause funny

[ocean spindle]

no cause its not an alarm

its an event similar to r7d1

OMG IT DOES
jk

it doesnt

:[

i wonder if itll turn on the light tho

it does :O

[waxen cipher]

any tips for R7E1

(other than going on dates with pablo)

[unreal gazelle]

do not brazil skip, make sure you grab all the resources, ||cfoam might help with charger scouts in stealth section but you may prefer to bring sentry for reactor||

[frail heart]

eh that first point isnt too important

[ocean spindle]

dont die

[waxen cipher]

thanks

uh

i couldn't find people

so i'm doing R7C2 PE instead

since i still need that one

[frail heart]

r7e1 is not bad

just go behind flesh wall and krill

ezpz

perma foam full team

[waxen cipher]

that's an idea

wait @frail heart do i do overrload first in R7C2 or secondary

[ocean spindle]

overload but its hard

complicated

[waxen cipher]

don't we just find the cell and get out

[ocean spindle]

:]

no

u gotta enter overload when u encounter it, but then u gotta wait for the 5th and 6th powercell to continue with it

and then secondary its at the very very end

u will understand why u gotta wait till the 5th powercell

[frail heart]

tbh cant really remember

[ocean spindle]

omg fake gamer

[waxen cipher]

actually nvm i'm gonna go join someone's r8E2 cus i need that

[ocean spindle]

brah

[waxen cipher]

oh

nvm

it's full

i'm just gonn akeep going

[ocean spindle]

braH

[waxen cipher]

huh

?

[ocean spindle]

:3

[waxen cipher]

the run died

gonna go agin

again

lmao

[ocean spindle]

:D

r7c2 goes hard

[waxen cipher]

yeah

uh

two people left

and then

now we're stuck waiting for one

[ocean spindle]

good luck :3

i would join but

my keyboard broke

i need to get it fixed

[waxen cipher]

ripp

[tardy ingot]

the tryhard (but more boring) way is to get 1st/2nd cell

||plug 1 cell into the close by gen to get the bulkhead key and the cell in there (plug cell asap since fog is rising, play fast for this section, you wanna avoid getting infected here)

then for 3rd and 4th you finish the section and plug both cells. Then open and clear out overload.
Save medipacks and fog repellers here.

Go to the last section. Get 5th and 6th cell, with 1 of the cells, move to overload and plug it there. Go through the zone and get the 6th cell from there. Plug it and the 5th one into cluster.

then finish overload

Then do secondary||

[ocean spindle]

is the funny way doing it in the 3rd cell

[tardy ingot]

ye

you can also be uber lame and do it all on 5th/6th

But that is unironically harder AND more boring

[waxen cipher]

okok

[waxen cipher]

wait what do u mean plug it there

[ocean spindle]

OWO

[ocean spindle]

why harder? wouldnt the 3rdd ||error alarm|| make the alarm hyper complicated?

[hidden ridge]

I may remember wrong but the gist of it is that Overload, after unlocking it and clearing the zone with cscouts, needs a cell to unlock a sec door you need to go through (which also has an alarm). You can use 1- One of the cells close to the bulkhead door for Overload, which are inside a zone that starts an error alarm. 2- Use one of the cells you get at the end of Main, which DO NOT start an alarm but fill the zone with inf fog. Then you get the cell BEHIND that Overload alarm to plug in the gen cluster.

[tardy ingot]

Cuz 1% hp for all overload segments

[hidden ridge]

Basically, you need to choose if you want 1- Error alarm + alarm with flyiers and a zone with chargers 2- The same but swap error alarm for fog.