gtfo-related-questions

[soft crater]

Game too hard. Game bad

[hidden ridge]

Or simply making bad choices

[odd pasture]

there are "gotchas", but its not like they are thrown at you all the time

[soft crater]

Unfortunately true.

[tardy ingot]

mechanics have to be shown (which this game does)

but r7e1 reactor last code throws an actual curveball

[vagrant venture]

where?

[dry pumice]

Unironically might be. Wiping me in literal last 5 minus of a grueling one hour long level is just... No.

[tardy ingot]

where dont they?

[vagrant venture]

this game dont tell you NOTHING

[tardy ingot]

shows

not tells

[hidden ridge]

While you did describe 2 curveballs I think what me and you would consider daily routine is a curveball to a beginner

[vagrant venture]

tell me where you learn the spawn point

room 0 room 1 and room 2

by players

the game dont tell you nothing

[tardy ingot]

R1A1, R2A1, R4A1, R5A1, R6A1

[vagrant venture]

nothing about any alarm is explained

[odd pasture]

well, we go again, thats how it be

[tardy ingot]

litteraly just needs you to look at which doors broke

[odd pasture]

also, you play the game solo with bots, right?

[frail heart]

You arent looking hard enough lmao

How do you think people found out?

[vagrant venture]

no if you dont talk with the community the game didn't explain hom many far room the spawn

just an exmple

[tardy ingot]

Its not explained

Its shown so you figure it out once youve seen it once, maybe twice

[frail heart]

If it explained it right off the bat it would be easier

You are literally just asking for an easier experience

I dont get it

[odd pasture]

its meta knowledge that is not explained by pretty much any game ever

[tardy ingot]

I figured it out by myself in my team back in original rundown r4a1

lol

[odd pasture]

"spawning behavior" usually is not disclosed in games

[hidden ridge]

I mean that's rarely even much needed ngl, some maps are just a corridor with few places

[odd pasture]

plain and simple

[vagrant venture]

you're not talking without a distance, you know the game you love the game and didn't see it from a distance

[tardy ingot]

i did?

i also started at 0

i joined the discord at the end of r5

nearly 2 rundowns after i joined

[upper ginkgo]

true we're all incredibly biased in favor of the game

[hidden ridge]

I did and then I looked at videos of speedrunners or just emulated those who played better than me

[frail heart]

Fr

[upper ginkgo]

that's why the majority of us shit on the game

[tardy ingot]

i can perfectly remember my first sessions

we learned the game by watching how it worked

we sucked

and then got better slowly

[frail heart]

yup

[soft crater]

I recall not knowing names and some people getting livid at newbies calling chargers "shadows"

[tardy ingot]

also i hate that i figured out long kiting in r4d2 back in the day… swore off of it
(Then joined discord in r5 and saw all the hate on stamina potentially coming and loled)

[hidden ridge]

I'll never forget someone calling a chicken a "sleeping scout"

[frail heart]

LMAO

[upper ginkgo]

thinkingbeard pls install mods if you just want to enjoy the atmosphere and not deal with the "stress"

[vagrant venture]

no sorry, i prefear to drop than gamble

[hidden ridge]

Just dont join other people's lobbies

[hidden ridge]

ok, then drop

see ya

[vagrant venture]

if i had to drop this game i will drop because i cant finish , mod are just for who finish the game in my mind

[soft crater]

You'd be surprised.

[upper ginkgo]

then have you come to terms that you're unlikely going to finish the game?

[tardy ingot]

mods that make the game easier are for people who finished it?

wha

[odd pasture]

yus

makes sense

[vagrant venture]

no i was discussing about my ideas of game problems , i will contnue untill i can

[vagrant venture]

yes

[tardy ingot]

theres mods litteraly for people who cant finish it

[odd pasture]

[vagrant venture]

if you are telling me that you have finished a rundown because you have used a mod ...you're playing another game

[odd pasture]

and you clearly have issues with this game

so, instead of being mad and coping

adjust

[hidden ridge]

a discuti quello che te pare

[vagrant venture]

if you are using a mod you are agree with me tyhat here are problems with design...we are back to beginning of discussion

[vagrant venture]

ci provo ma pace 🙂

[soft crater]

Just for reference. Rule 12. Cosmetic/QoL/Cinematic mods are allowed. Others are considered an advantage/cheating.
People do it but ofc it's looked down upon.

[odd pasture]

we are saying that you should use mods because YOU think there are issues with the design of the game

[vagrant venture]

ok accept it, will try without

[hidden ridge]

Pointless to tell him that rule since the trouble he has aren't really QoL related but main gameplay

[soft crater]

Hence I "for reference"

But yeah

Probably pointless

[hidden ridge]

Again all he can do is get a mod to make the game easier, who cares as along as he doesn't violate the rule of not using that stuff with players who don't agree, otherwise it's a victimless crime so noone cares

[tardy ingot]

Ive never used mods in vanilla levels

[hidden ridge]

He gets the play the game without stressing and noone's the wiser

[tardy ingot]

the point is that theres mods for people who think its too much for them

[vagrant venture]

hope you understand a little bit my point of view, is not about crying, not about difficulties just only a try and error mechanics that in a big level becomes frustrating and feel you "impossible to do untill you know everithing"

[hidden ridge]

I mean it doesn't even need to be anyone's business, really, it's a PvE coop game not some competitive shooter or whatever, bottom line it's a game and people bought it so they might aswell make the most of it

Once you take everything outside of the meta-context, there's not really a discussion to be made from that PoV

[soft crater]

Can be said about many games that just comes with experience really.

[odd pasture]

for reference, me and my friend beat the vast majority of levels completely blind, the only info we got was from the mission briefing screen

[tardy ingot]

also this got me thinking about which levels ive not first tried since i got „decent“ at the game (happened somewhere in R6)

R6C3pe, R7C2/3, D2 and E1
R4E1, R8B4, R8D2 and E2

well and i guess if you count ogs, OGR2E1

[soft crater]

GTFO early on is a chunk of knowledge gap and understanding how it works in practice

[odd pasture]

2 man 2 bot

[hidden ridge]

Experience is usually gained whenever you do the test first and then the lesson 😄

[neon gust]

gotta love how we still say we gotta learn the maps

when just learning the fundamental mechanics its more important

than just hammering your head against a level

[odd pasture]

the levels are far from impossible, even on your first blind attempt

[soft crater]

I just gotta pop a edible and ill get lost on R1A1

[vagrant venture]

a, b and some c too

[neon gust]

but sadly weve been saying that for so long

[upper ginkgo]

I don't think it's worth arguing about anymore. They're just expressing an understandable complaint and it's just better to leave it at that.

[tardy ingot]

this makes you a better player ye

learning the level usually only makes that level easier, while learning the mechanics/workings of the game makes it easier as a whole

[hidden ridge]

Dont reason in terms of tiers based on the letters, some C levels are a pain in the ass (R4C3 PE) and others are a walk in the park (R7C1)

That only makes sense for E level since the only pushover shit easy E is R8E1

[dry pumice]

I kinda agree with him, honestly.

[tardy ingot]

same goes for D and E tiers at this point (tho i guess E only cuz of R8E1 lol)

[dry pumice]

And I'm a dark Souls simp. This is different.

[neon gust]

anyway skill issue

rip bozo

[upper ginkgo]

take a shot everytime a souls game is referenced to talk about difficulty

[odd pasture]

so painfully overrated

[neon gust]

alcohol poisoning

[hidden ridge]

If I ever get a genie one of the wishes will be for everyone to stop comparing any game with a Dark Souls

[soft crater]

I refuse because of how many game reviews I've read that have "SOULS-LIKE BUT WITH--" So and so.

[vagrant venture]

i compare it because on ds you know that you will die because the game is designet for it, hero no but it happens

[hidden ridge]

I'd post the "it's all so tiresome" chinese guy in africa meme but you get the point

[tardy ingot]

theres valid comparisions

Then theres „game difficult, game souls like“

[upper ginkgo]

holy shit guys is Garfield cart the dark souls of racing games???

[dry pumice]

When I die to a surprise boss grab and respawn at a bonfire in a minute walking distance that one thing.
Dying to actual bullshit in last 5 minutes of a 80 minutes grinding run and having to do it all again... Ouchies.

[odd pasture]

this is, afterall, the dark souls of cooperative pvm shooter horror games

[hidden ridge]

Kasparov is the Dark Souls of Chess

[tardy ingot]

honestly im more annoyed by people saying „stOp cOmPaRINg sTuFF tO dARk SouLs!1!11“ at this point since that seemingly pops up more

[hidden ridge]

I disagree

[tardy ingot]

you can? Yes

[hidden ridge]

With the one stops existing the other would too

[tardy ingot]

id rather people able to make valid comparisions

[upper ginkgo]

it's just kinda overdone and I find it funny how any discussion on game difficulty converges to dark souls, I just want a new comparison

[hidden ridge]

Hence why I also would want for people to stop comparing it...

[tardy ingot]

souls games are good games and can be used to compare game mechanics

[soft crater]

When Darksouls stream?

[dry pumice]

(and lore exposition)

[odd pasture]

ah yes, the main dark soul mechanic, as said by mr John "Dark" Soul, it difficult

[tardy ingot]

This i can understand

I tend to compare it since ive got a lot of time spend on that game groups so its the first thing i usually look at when it comes to intricate comparisions

[hidden ridge]

In a perfect world they'd be compared to games that have similar mechanics

[native sun]

There is a shortage of games that are sufficiently popular to be a good reference point for many people while also being hard (as is required when making a hard-game reference point)

[hidden ridge]

What you often see is the opposite of that

[tardy ingot]

When i get a souls game that i havent played

[soft crater]

[frail heart]

guys this game is like geometry dash

[soft crater]

Modded geometry dash*

Well

Custom geometry dash levels

[frail heart]

Tf is modded gd

yeah

user made levels are what make gd, gd

[hidden ridge]

I feel like one of the issues with that reasoning is that a game can be both hard and easy, really. Some MMOs have VERY complex fights and VERY easy ones. Dark Souls has always been described as a mainly hard game, with the baseline being much higher

(not saying that it doesn't climb)

But as soon as someone gets to an hard part "just like dark souls!"

[frail heart]

why cant we compare to gd

[upper ginkgo]

gotta make it a trend

[tardy ingot]

[frail heart]

OMG guys brazil skip is like beating bloodbath !!!!!!!

[upper ginkgo]

what the fuck, why is r7e1 harder than stereo madness

[frail heart]

r5d1 is just any travel level

[dry pumice]

What people mean when say "like dark souls" they basically mean "making mistakes matters, and dying/falling is not only expected, but is normal and part of the gameplay loop".

Which I do agree is a simplification of what Dark Souls actually is like.
The only game I played that gave me the exact same vibe was Hollow Knight.

[native sun]

Dark Souls also (to me) comes with the connotation of not being apologetic when it is hard, while other games may apologize even when they are hard (by giving you a bunch of loot even if you fail)

[tardy ingot]

id argue in general that all games with a deserved „souls like“ have a similar vibe

[odd pasture]

souls like is also so overused

[tardy ingot]

hollow knight is definetly one imo

[hidden ridge]

Hack and slashes were a thing back in the day

[odd pasture]

roll therefore soulslike

[frail heart]

hades is hard

[tardy ingot]

its overused by people trying to get attention to their game (or by people who want to spot the „NEXT NEW ONE“)

[frail heart]

not if ur good tho

[tardy ingot]

Theres a million trash „soulslikes“

[upper ginkgo]

dark souls copied from monster hunter!!

[tardy ingot]

metroidvanias also have a trillion ass copies

[upper ginkgo]

lf3m fatalis hunt (no zsd spam, no sticky bow gun, no temporal mantle)

[hidden ridge]

heheheh fat-alis

[upper ginkgo]

i will not tolerate such blatant fat-phobia

apologize now!

[odd pasture]

fart-alis

[latent obsidian]

Sleepo finally let the mask slip

[hidden ridge]

I'll post a random emoticon or whatever they're called as a sign of apology

[hidden ridge]

Nah that'd get me banned

One day I'm gonna come here drunk say something silly and get banned

If that happens I want either Dakstar or tru to click on "Ban User"

[latent obsidian]

join Dj and Azert in the fields of Elysium

[tardy ingot]

That doesnt sound good

[latent obsidian]

or Tartarus, maybe

[upper ginkgo]

rip dj

[hidden ridge]

I miss DJ

He was fun with jokes about WW2 and DARKEVA and me since germany and italy etc

[hidden ridge]

The tower?

[dry pumice]

He's probably blasting through helldivers

[hidden ridge]

Can I have someone that's not Yamagishi to narrate it?

[latent obsidian]

I was thinking more the greek underworld

[dry pumice]

This editing software if a curse upon my life. I should give up.

[hidden ridge]

👍

[upper ginkgo]

mfw yamagishi gives me a stat refresh instead of charging my attacks

[frail heart]

helldivers more like shitdivers am i right guys

[latent obsidian]

chat cluster bomb this guy ^

[dry pumice]

I ought to buy that game sometimes, looks so fun, but I'm a crazy man stuck in a loop of life

[frail heart]

i have no friends

[upper ginkgo]

riemann says otherwise

[frail heart]

I have a deep relationship with Riemann

[upper ginkgo]

I'm sure the feeling is mutual

[frail heart]

I hope so

Where is Riemann anyway

[odd pasture]

cooking up another banger post

[tardy ingot]

„Gtfo is good“

Expectations subverted

[lone mortar]

Im ur friend

Oh wait nvm wrong aussie

Sorry

[frail heart]

Can we ban this racist please?

[rapid warren]

💀

[hidden ridge]

🇦🇺

@tardy ingot A GTFO related question, do I need to BEWEIGUNG of the TASCHENLAMPE even when the MIT GROßER REICHWEITE does the FEUERSTOẞKANNONE?

[dry pumice]

The scout icon glitched out and was peeking at me from behind the "B" in "ban".

It's doing it again.

[frail heart]

Lmao

[fallen kite]

[hard nexus]

Dark sasi is the best souls game you can't prove me wrong

[tardy ingot]

bruh what

[dry pumice]

German language funny

[arctic marten]

everyone point and laugh

[frail heart]

i aint laughin

[arctic marten]

why not

[frail heart]

just shit myself

[arctic marten]

thats pretty funny

[neon gust]

you should play dirty ice

250 times

[arctic marten]

im getting closer

hit 100 loud overkills the other day

[solar sinew]

Would you guys say that gtfo is “enjoyable” when played with 3 people instead of 4 and just filling the last spot with a bot. Or is there a huge difference when playing with a full squad

[arctic marten]

i love dirty ice

[neon gust]

this shitpost its not as funny without beep

[arctic marten]

about the same id say

[odd pasture]

I wouldnt say that the game is "enjoyable"

[neon gust]

yes

unless you suck so much

[odd pasture]

but fr, nah you'll be fine with 3

[neon gust]

you can beat everything with 3

[odd pasture]

just give bot biotracker and you are gaming

[solar sinew]

That’s why I put it in quotation marks. But I do enjoy seeing people suffer sooo

All right then thank you all

[odd pasture]

game is very enjoyable

I just pull leg

[arctic marten]

he was right there with me

for every dirty ice

[hard nexus]

It's good yeah

[odd pasture]

unlike hel shotgun

[solar sinew]

Aight thank you

[frail heart]

sounds like fun

[arctic marten]

i love dirty ice

[frail heart]

payday players

[odd pasture]

I need my payday 2

[arctic marten]

new grenade coming soon!

[soft crater]

New breach loading grenade launcher special right?

[arctic marten]

no!

[rapid warren]

I haven't really seen this properly but does breaking down a door with ur weapon disrupt the enemies inside?

[ocean spindle]

if the enemies are close enough yes, meleeing a door wakes enemies

[soft crater]

Guns can't dmg doors

[rapid warren]

no like ur sledgehammer

[rapid warren]

ah ok, thx!!

[ocean spindle]

its like smashing a locker

[rapid warren]

oh shoot really

[soft crater]

Iirc breaking the door does

[rapid warren]

💀 I thought I was just missing their sleep cycles

and kept waking them up

I'm so stoopid

tyvm

❤️

[ocean spindle]

yeh just

open doors

normally

[rapid warren]

got it!

[soft crater]

has a padlock on it

[ocean spindle]

shoot it with ur scattergun smh

[soft crater]

Inb4 giant next to it

[rapid warren]

💀 me when the bots use the lock melter on the padlock

I thought I saw them before doing that instead of breaking the padlock

insane bot behavior

[soft crater]

Yeah they will break padlocks and use lock melters

Its a little weird waiting for them to use it though

[ocean spindle]

on stealth it can b useful

[soft crater]

I've made use of it once or twice. But haven't really had a bot with the group or a need for it

[hard nexus]

True

[rapid warren]

yes like most of the time if u get close to the lock they just give up and wait for u to do it

😭

[neon gust]

If you within 4 meters of a padlock theyll stop

You have to get away from the door for them to use it

[serene vault]

anyone know why bots are being weird on security scans on r2d2?

[serene vault]

😭

bots step into bioscan challenge: impossible

[soft crater]

"I was in scan"

[serene vault]

i cant take it anymore.....

[ocean spindle]

u can always do the kick trick

[serene vault]

now i know

[ocean spindle]

probs better since thet

take a while

to get to u

[serene vault]

we talkin r2d2 here

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[serene vault]

door to 196 i believe

everytime without fail

the bots refuse to stand in the scan

[ocean spindle]

u havin bad luck

[serene vault]

😭

[ocean spindle]

that or they are very far away

[serene vault]

nope

[ocean spindle]

ok unlucky then

[serene vault]

do u wanna see a clip

[ocean spindle]

ik some spots where bots can bug out, like r7c2
but r2d2 is

not one of the known ones

usually

[ocean spindle]

not really

i know the bug

ive lived ut

[serene vault]

im on my last straw

[ocean spindle]

how many hours u got on the game

trying r2d2 with bots either way it's just a bad idea

[serene vault]

116 hrs

playing with 2 bots

[ocean spindle]

ehhh two bots
tbh i would still get a full stack

[serene vault]

ideally yes

[ocean spindle]

that missions a really fuckin steep climb in difficulty from d1

[serene vault]

but ppl be busy

[ocean spindle]

ppl be flowin u just gotta search em

like fairies

or cocaine

[serene vault]

fair enuf

[neon gust]

Knowm bug since they first got added

Best way to fix it its either kicking and finishing the scan

Or you could always restart your game

[signal finch]

when is gtfo gonna get on sale again lol

[digital mural]

we dont know

maybe on the next big steam sales

[winged turtle]

more frequently hopefully

[whole stirrup]

G2a usually has decent sales too if you are ok with it

[lofty mist]

Question: Why do people always take Burst Sentries nowadays? Sniper Sentry has always been more consistent in my experience, and Auto Sentry is fantastic at holding waves. I know Burst has a decent amount of ammo, but it just seems like a boring general purpose turret that doesn’t excel at anything otherwise

[turbid horizon]

it’s good, because sniper has 32 bullets and takes a WHILE to lock on, and auto burns through tool refill. So the others can be better situationally, but the vast majority of the time? Burst sentry is better

[upper ginkgo]

mainly versatility and longevity

[turbid horizon]

Also auto does like no damage

So yeah, decent damage and CC,

Plus it’s quite conservative with ammo

Doesn’t burn through it like shotgun or auto

But it locks on very fast and shoots just as fast

No long hallways required

[fierce walrus]

shotgun sentry my beloved - how many shots does it take to kill one sleeper? yes

[civic wave]

burst sentry is by far the best against small enemies and it's not even close

[civic wave]

1-3 shots to kill them, then another 3-4 shots to really make sure they're dead

[turbid horizon]

Yeah sniper sentry also got pretty gutted after the R7 incident

[upper ginkgo]

deserved tbh

[turbid horizon]

Yeah

[upper ginkgo]

was way too overtuned lol

[lofty mist]

R7 was an incident in and of itself

[civic wave]

it was very good yes

idk they fucked up so much shit over time

[fierce walrus]

when did it get nerfed? ALT R2? ALT R3?

[civic wave]

release r6 burst sentry

release r7 sniper sentry

[turbid horizon]

Yes

[civic wave]

I do very much still like sniper sentry but burst sentry is just the braindead pick that provides more value in most circumstances

[turbid horizon]

Throughout alts

I think ALT R3 was first nerf

Because Occy uses alt R2 sniper and it’s relatively similar

[civic wave]

like I'd take sniper sentry for r4e1, r5d2, r8d2 e2, maybe some other levels but I can't quite list them off the top of my head

r4d1

[turbid horizon]

Remember when it was pinging dead bodies?

Good times

[upper ginkgo]

r7 sniper sentry murdering my teammates in r7d2

[turbid horizon]

yep

[fierce walrus]

I miss those days

i miss walking infront of a sniper sentry and just dying

[turbid horizon]

shoot sleeper, sleeper ragdolls past the sentry through me, sentry deletes me by whipping around backwards

[civic wave]

sniper sentry was such a great friend to us all

[turbid horizon]

We love sniper sentry

[fierce walrus]

shotty sentry on its way to do that but to the entire team standing behind it

[turbid horizon]

lol

I still love that it can turn all the way around if it’s targeting in that situation

[fierce walrus]

Actually i wonder, whats the best sentry for nightmares? Is it just burst?

[sturdy glen]

sniper

by far

[lofty mist]

So is auto just completely unviable now?

[sturdy glen]

always has been

[lofty mist]

In my experience it’s fantastic for holding waves of chargers

R4C3 PE with a burst was constant suffering, but the auto performed extremely well and it’s actually why I’m asking this question at all

[upper ginkgo]

not another dollar store solace

[fierce walrus]

auto has very limited uses

like it can help in some scenarios, but its in no way a sentry you would wanna take into most levels

[lofty mist]

What uses?

[hazy wedge]

Surge alarms

[unreal gazelle]

not this shit again

burst kills enemy, enemy has to respawn, then walk all the way back - more value from killing than stagger

auto sentry is only for people who cant shoot to stagger

but burst almost does it as well

[turbid horizon]

or just use foam over the entirety of the R6D4 hallway

I still love that strat

[fierce walrus]

Me when old R8B4 auto sentry carry

[upper ginkgo]

maybe you had a teammate that actually shoots

[fierce walrus]

auto sentry is the only teammate i need

it misses half the shots

[hidden ridge]

Problem is that it's not reliable at that even

[fierce walrus]

only targets one enemy

uses a shit ton of res

perfect teammate

change my mind

[hidden ridge]

So ultimately even in its "intended" best use case scenario, auto is inefficient and not reliable

[fierce walrus]

yeah true but… it works i guess?

[hidden ridge]

No, if it unreliable it doesn't work all the times

[fierce walrus]

it does actually pen now right?

[hidden ridge]

It's just wonky to try to get something like staggering a wave to a sentry

[fierce walrus]

yeah thats why you may want to take it into like 3 levels in the game

[hidden ridge]

nah

more like 0

I did an R4C2 PE with an auto sentry

felt the same

And it just burned ammo

[fierce walrus]

i still think old R8B4 with auto was much easier than without it

dunno how much it helps now

[hidden ridge]

I feel like might aswell take burst anyway

Moreover like Pachi said killing during a surge means that it needs to walk back anyway

[fierce walrus]

i mean in B4s case burst had the issue that there would be so many of the enemies that even if killed would instantly come back thay its value was minimal

[hidden ridge]

I'd rather have 1 guy with an hel pp

[fierce walrus]

and yeah true

hel pp is just a better auto sentry

Since it actually doesnt miss

[hidden ridge]

To be completely honest, I feel like 1 hel pp for a team would be viable and even proficient for perhaps most if not all levels

The stagger value is off the charts

[fierce walrus]

quite possibly yeah

[hidden ridge]

Of course this doesn't take into account speedrunning or people being crackshots

But still it's just a very solid pick (1, not more)

[fierce walrus]

i think we should take sniper into every level cause its funny

[lofty mist]

Maybe it’s because I’m a Hel Autopistol main that I like Auto sentry so much, because it does what I do and I never feel appreciated so I have sympathy for it XD

[hidden ridge]

I'll be honest with you I rarely touched sniper after og R6

And I don't plan on starting again now lel

[fierce walrus]

i mean it was still good

till R8

[hidden ridge]

That makes it even more pointless

[fierce walrus]

and then it was usable

until they „fixed” it

[hidden ridge]

Just get to a choke and stagger them yourself, assuming not a surge

pepper them to maximize the time they stay staggered relatively to your ammo

Switch to some high value target if you see them about to attack (Hybrids standing up or whatnot)

[lofty mist]

Idk, all I know is that R4C3’s main bulkhead mixed alarm was hellish with a burst sentry and easy as shit with a hel auto with the same squad, weapon loadout, and strategy

Its personal experience, which I guess doesn’t beat math and I’ll admit I’m biased, but I feel like it has been more useful in certain scenarios and people are super fast to shut it down.

[past mesa]

It is a charger alarm

Did you have other charger outs

like hel rilfe or hel shotgun or perma foam

If not burst isn’t the best into chargers and you found a substitute for you lacking spot

But there are other options which tend to work better for your charger out than hel auto sentry

[lofty mist]

Huh

[upper ginkgo]

burst sentry propaganda wins again 😔

[lofty mist]

I guess that makes sense

[civic wave]

i mean on that level you just kinda like

mine and foam most alarms

[past mesa]

No like they probs are running heavy aR and some piston

[civic wave]

the alarm for the turbine you have 1 sentry and your guns

[lofty mist]

Well no we were running heavy hel weapons

[past mesa]

hel Rilfe is really good on that part but mainly that Alarm is a perma foam

[past mesa]

Were you doing PE

[lofty mist]

Yup

[civic wave]

they said they were doing PE with burst then swapped to auto

[lofty mist]

The difference was night and day

[tardy ingot]

it rly shouldnt do that much of a difference at all

[past mesa]

I mean if you are lossing doors

It is nice but perma foam mines is just so good on every alarm

[upper ginkgo]

why are we trying to convince them that auto sentry wasn't the reason they got the clear

[past mesa]

I think

It isn’t

[upper ginkgo]

we are killing build diversity

[past mesa]

Yeah my sentry groups up enemies

[sturdy glen]

I mean it is true that the other sentries probably dont do much there

sniper might but the spots youd have to put it in are a little scary + too many sides

[lofty mist]

Maybe my playstyle just favors working with the sentry than relying on it. Like, having the sentry hold the wave while the team lands the kills just feels nicer in my experience, and Auto is easier to work with in that case

[sturdy glen]

damn bro just shit on everyone

[lofty mist]

Yeah it eats ammo, but I feel like that’s because people just plop it down in the same spots and scenarios as burst and expect it to just magically catch up and do what burst does.

[civic wave]

isn't it really ironic that as a hel autopistol player you'd rather let a sentry do a shit job rather then doing all the staggering yourself

and like, saving tool for something actually good

[lofty mist]

I’m not trying to shit on anyone, I just like the auto sentry Jesus

Why did everything get so hostile out of nowhere??

[upper ginkgo]

average gtfo-chatter is constantly on edge

[sturdy glen]

nothing happened?

I just thought it was funny lol

[lofty mist]

I’m bad at online chatting

I can’t read tone very well my bad

[upper ginkgo]

Maybe my playstyle just favors working with the sentry than relying on it.
can be misinterpreted as "saying people are bad at game", hence the "shit on"

[lofty mist]

Ah

Didn’t mean to imply that

[civic wave]

but I did it first! I'm notorious for saying burst sentry carries pubs!

[sturdy glen]

I knew it was unintentional, hence it being funny

[lofty mist]

I do feel like pubs rely on burst too much sometimes I won’t lie

[sturdy glen]

they do yes

[lofty mist]

Probably why I’m desperate to find a reason use something else :|

[civic wave]

most gtfo players do not have gun skill

I mean tbh burst sentry still carries me in solo speedruns but that's a different matter entirely

[lofty mist]

Solo players deserve Burst Sentry carry

[civic wave]

all solo players know is kite with giant cap

[lofty mist]

They already are doing so much solo

Wait… does auto sentry even have piercing rounds??

[unreal gazelle]

yes lol

first patch or two it didn't, modder fixed it, then it got fixed in base game

[upper ginkgo]

who is the dominant personality

the goat or the imp

[unreal gazelle]

it is a constant struggle

in the end, all will become one

[upper ginkgo]

holy shit lore ✍️ 🔥

[unreal gazelle]

may the end come quickly to us all

[past mesa]

It misses

That is its main issue

[lofty mist]

I did some playtesting, and yeah Burst performs better overall.

That being said, Burst also seems to empty a ton of its rounds into the air as well, it seems like it’s better on the grounds that it just has better survivability

It lasts longer and it still hits its shots when it counts.

Makes me wonder if Hel auto could be improved with sentry CPU / damage booster setups?

[past mesa]

The difference between burst missing and auto missing

Is night and day

ngl

Depending on the enemies a single shooter can empty 30% of hel auto

[lofty mist]

Well obviously, auto just dumps everywhere in the general direction of enemies while burst actually targets

That’s why I’m saying auto is way useful in cramped spaces that don’t have a lot of open area to miss shots

Auto sucks in most scenarios because people treat it like it’s a burst and put it where a burst would go, and it wastes half it’s ammo on a shooter

When it’s strength is holding a horde in a tight space

Or at least it should be

Seems like a competent team can just do everything on their own, which I think is an issue with sentries in general

You only ever really need the burst because players can just fill any niche with how many weapons are in the game now

With a specific few Loadouts providing optimal coverage for any scenario

Making most of the other weapons and sentry types irrelevant

[past mesa]

Pretty much

[lofty mist]

Great

Hopefully GTFO 2 will fix these balance issues XD

[past mesa]

GTFO doesn’t have many balance issues ngl

There is just to many sentries

for all of them to be good

Melees are in a good spot atm

Scatter and hel shotty are crimes against the game

[lofty mist]

bat

[past mesa]

Yeah unironically it is in a nice spot

It has more of a reason to use it that spear

[lofty mist]

… go on

[upper ginkgo]

bat doubter spotted !

[past mesa]

Because of hammer stagger

It allows for melee scream cd on body shots

Which allows for slightly more aggressive hammer placement

has a good awful hit box but that is its only issue

Also can hammer stealth mom with bat now and front stagger giants on limb break has one of the only consistent giant shooter solos without scream cd gambling

So must be fun

[tardy ingot]

spear

[lofty mist]

Wow, I’ve been consistently told by what I thought were pro players that the bat is worthless and you should never take it. I was a bat main for months and figured I had just been nerfing myself with it so I switched to hammer

[past mesa]

Hammer is better but bat has a use case I also just fucking hate the stupid fucking

Hitbox

Every time I think state wise the bat is very good for the speed the hitbox ruins it for me

[lofty mist]

What’s the use case for bat?

[unreal gazelle]

bat is fine, never bad either

hammer has better damage profile and hitbox though

[sturdy glen]

bat is basically for skill issue or niche meme cases

which its not even a good solution for skill issue cuz the hitbox sucks

[upper ginkgo]

larping as knife/hammer hybrid

[sturdy glen]

so its like trading 1 skill issue for another

[past mesa]

It is

good for solo charger giant

[sturdy glen]

as host

[upper ginkgo]

use case scenario when you're kiting 4 charger giants with no ammo

[sturdy glen]

I love playing chicken with the giant charger with my 2 inch stick as client

[upper ginkgo]

charge the charger giant

[past mesa]

It is better than the 180 hammer

in charger giants

If you are on ping it would be so much worse tho

[upper ginkgo]

pro players don't exist in lfg

[tardy ingot]

Who

[tardy ingot]

a bit jokes aside

Bat is by far the best melee weapon to salvage bad stealth. It allows the most mistakes in hurried stealth (as every tap hit staggers smaller enemies and it easily soft staggers giants aswell)

its also a melee that as a team can fully stagger lock birthers quite easily :p

[past mesa]

Spear has uses to

If you are gonna be holding down cntr

Spear is the fastest melee

[tardy ingot]

true

Crouch% strats was 4 spears

[wind wren]

How much a melee is charged has no impact on stam consumption right?

[tardy ingot]

it does

[wind wren]

Oh good to know, so if I only half charge a hammer it only uses half the stam?

[past mesa]

It is cubic

Isn’t it?

[tardy ingot]

^

should be?

[past mesa]

@native sun

[tardy ingot]

wait

no?

i remember having this discussion before

i think its not?

[wind wren]

Just asking cuz I wanted to know if there's a way to avoid having terrible in comp to bat when just fighting smalls

So ig charge less and hit better. Thx : D

[tardy ingot]

its why you move through/behind enemies to hit occi

[native sun]

Stam use is linear with charge time (everything else is cubic though)

So yeah, partial charging (and making use of back damage so you can partial charge even more) is important for stam

But the biggest deal for stam is just not mis-inputting dodge 🙃

[jaunty tapir]

Did the chokemod shotty ever pierce at one point?

[ocean spindle]

i don't believe so no

think the only piercing guns that got removed that ability were scattergun
...
and that's it?

[jaunty tapir]

Gun stat mod lookin sus

[ocean spindle]

mhh

[native sun]

Based on how the game handles it pierce 1 is the same as no piercing, so weapon stat showers might show that

[civic furnace]

You always exist in lfg :3 and you’re so pro

[hidden ridge]

Just use hammer

[hard nexus]

Where is secondary dc in r6c3

[tardy ingot]

why did 10 chambers have to make pablo a forced spawn QQ

[strange jolt]

left side of the security door you open once you go do main bulkhead scan

but you go to the right first for the key iirc

[hard nexus]

key is further forward different zone but ah shit ok then

thanks

[strange jolt]

oh yeah forgot you go run through another zone before that

[ocean spindle]

isn't overload the first

and sec is way way up ahead

[civic wave]

Think so

It's like right in front of you past a big door down some stairs as you enter whichever zone it is

[hard nexus]

yea yea but we wiped yesterday cuz we forgor whats after main scan lmao

or rather after finding key for sec

its like i vaguely recall but i was like where the fuck is bulkhead dc

and that was famous last thoughts

was good team too damn we just got lost kekw

[ocean spindle]

the key is like the other, in an extra zone

the dc is in the zone after the one with a ton of sleepin enemies i think

[strange jolt]

good thing to know is to look right after leaving the room where you find bulkhead key for secondary

it should be a big door you need to go down for

[hard nexus]

i mean we looked everywhere and didnt find anything even on map

try later i guess

[lone mortar]

bapex edgends

[sage pulsar]

any tips for soloing the class 4 alarm to zone 106 in r2a1?

[upper ginkgo]

just shoot well i guess

you can run mines and pray to rng that they bang on different doors each wave

solo'ing in general is just pretty volatile, missing a bunch of shots in succession can quickly destabilize you

[civic wave]

Watch the hanimoon advanced players guide and see if that helps

[strange jolt]

soloing with bots or pure solo? If youre alone id recommend a hel shotgun since they can take a pretty narrow path towards you in that room

[strange jolt]

positioning and hitting shots go brr

[upper ginkgo]

goat makes a good point

[strange jolt]

goat? thats clearly pachi

[upper ginkgo]

goat = greatest of all time

[civic wave]

It's true

[strange jolt]

goat is the animal that has horns and climbs steep rocks

[civic wave]

Everyone loves me and I am the greatest of all time

[upper ginkgo]

are you stupid

why would they name an animal after an acronym

[strange jolt]

stop making up fake acronyms

[upper ginkgo]

stop making up fake names for animals

[strange jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kaden-bear-walk-gif-15031442544519350917

documented gif of a goat

your turn liberal

[upper ginkgo]

reported for breaking rule 1 of the gtfo discord

discussion of politics in our esteemed discord server is not tolerated

[strange jolt]

mb ill just go back to subtly harassing people

much more appreciated around here

[lone mortar]

And here i thought you was better than me

Good to know

[past mesa]

Fuck u

We are wanting air out our beef now

[dusty ivy]

hey i havent played since early release back in 2019, and im just now coming back. is there a suggested place to go to catch up how to play again?

[flat cliff]

all the rundowns have been revamped

[past mesa]

R1a1 if you haven’t already if you just want the best the game has to offer r6-r8

[ocean spindle]

play the tutorial for a refresher on some mechanics

that's about it :3 the rest is remembering stuff

how to play

[floral hamlet]

hola alguien juega

[ocean spindle]

wenas, podei checar #hc-latin-america para un server de gtfo en español
o si querei buscar gente aqui mismo en este server podei buscar o compartir lobbies en #lfg-latin-america, nomas siguiendo la guia de como postear mensajes de #how-to-matchmake

h they gone

nevermind

[dusty ivy]

thank youuu

[strange jolt]

its just a cover for our deep rooted love for each other

i mean

fuck you too

[strange jolt]

i am dw

[lone mortar]

Yeha right

R6 boomer

Not even grinding on dem R8E1 clears

Unbelievable

[frail heart]

Grind e2 clears then talk to me

[odd pasture]

grind on me then dont talk to me

[lone mortar]

With pubs?

No thanks im not that dumb

Blud always gets good teams and just flex

[frail heart]

sugon

Beat it with pubs while doing random loadouts

[rancid smelt]

will the dev add feature to allow host migration by a button by the host? (so can migrate when the host still in game)

its kinda funny when ppl get roll backed to spawn or lobby crashed when host gone

[frail heart]

Even if there was a button it would probably still do the same thing

But anyway they wont

[lilac fulcrum]

A button to migrate host likely wouldn't fix/prevent that issue as when that happens, something core in the host migration system broke, so manually doing it likely wouldn't work either. The way HM works is by continuisly sending game state data to all players and when the host is no longer responding, the remaining players automatically choose someone to be the host, then find someone with the most recent state data and give the new host that data. When you get rolled back to spawn, that means that something in that HM system broke so trying to manually change host probably wouldn't work.

This is a bug that's been on my list to fix, but unfortunately we've never been able to reliably reproduce the issue, which makes it extremely difficult to fix when we don't know where it's going wrong. We've tried all sorts of network modifications forcing lag, forcing packets to be out of sync, vpns, all that combined, etc.

[rancid smelt]

instead of sending to all players, if its sent to only 1 player would it makes the issue less of a problem?

never been reliably reproduce the issue? is it quite rare for you guys?

[lilac fulcrum]

Sending to only one player isn't a great solution either. What if that player leaves at the same time, etc.

Right, we've seen the issue, but aside from "hoping we get it" never been able to repro it where we could debug it.

[grizzled patrol]

A truly perplexing issue when even the modders were Not able to solve it

[past mesa]

Host migration back to spawn is quite common. Idk if it always takes good snapshots of the level the one at spawn almost always works tho

[rancid smelt]

yea its quite common for me too so i was surprised when you say it wasnt reliably reproduced, one time the lobby even crashed after the host left

[sage pulsar]

What does the combat shotgun have over the hel shotgun

[rancid smelt]

semi auto and knockback?

12 ammo in a mag

[little pilot]

On the other hand I had the complete opposite experience: i have only seen host migration return the group to spawn once. And that was quite early into the level so idk if it even was some issue with it.

[little pilot]

Better range, damage, more shots per ammopack

Also better reload

Hel shotgun excels when there are large groups of enemies clumped up together

Combat shotgun excels when the enemies are coming in a slower pace and can't be lined up for the perfect angle.

[sage pulsar]

How much better cone size is 3 to 4

[little pilot]

Idk, but the weapons serve different enough purposes. Simply Hel shotgun being a main and combat shotgun a secondary makes them different enough. And currently Hel shotgun is very good while combat shotgun is also quite good

The range of combat shotty is around 4-5m where it stops being effective

[ashen frigate]

Same goes for me. I have experienced it twice over more than 2000 hours. There are likely some unknown element at play here...

[little pilot]

Hel shotgun depends on whether u wanna stagger or kill.

[lone mortar]

A hacker amongus

[hard nexus]

Different weapon slot

[tardy ingot]

1 shots on strikers
Way more ammo
better reload (eh)

[tardy ingot]

Also this lol

[tardy ingot]

Both are full auto weapons you can reliably shoot semi auto

[sage pulsar]

1shot strikers? this didnt occur to me

at what range does that work

[fierce walrus]

at close range thats for sure (prolly like 5 meters if i had to guess how pellet spread works)

also why are you comparing a main and a special

[frail heart]

I thought hel shotty 1 shotted striker if you were close enough

[sage pulsar]

I occasionally think about numbers ig

[fierce walrus]

But… like are you gonna compare AR to HAR next?

or sawn off to scatergun?

[sage pulsar]

if I can conjure something funny I will

right now nah

[sage pulsar]

I just went to try the combat shotty, it oneshots strikers half the time at strictly 2m (where it looks like the barrel is touching them)

3-4m wont work

[hidden ridge]

I think it's perhaps desync tbh

Some people experience it more often because they play with people from other timezones

Personally I had that like 2-3 times

[tardy ingot]

It does

its a thing on where you aim

[hidden ridge]

Most of the times it "worked" but borked a terminal or something else in the game anyway

[sage pulsar]

center of head? that's what I did, should I aim elsewhere?

[hidden ridge]

Dunno about CS, with pump shotty I aim for upper torso, center of gravity

And it oneshots reliably

VERY reliably

[sage pulsar]

yeah that's my usual choice

[hard nexus]

hel shotgun and combat shotgun are very similar

[frail heart]

I mean pump is a LOT more consistent with one shots with also having a further range

[soft crater]

Taking helshotgun/Combat shotgun

[ocean spindle]

combat shottie is very very iffy on one shots on longer ranges cause that's not its purpose really

[sage pulsar]

one of the loadouts of all time

[soft crater]

Out of ammo for your shotgun? Take out your secondary shotgun

[ocean spindle]

that's the one i did for r1c2 bot clear

[sage pulsar]

with bots?

[ocean spindle]

yeh :3

[soft crater]

I have made newbies question what guns I'm using because they've never someone just go all in on hel/Combat shotguns

[sage pulsar]

wym longer ranges

[soft crater]

It's always funny

[ocean spindle]

more than 4 meters

or so

[sage pulsar]

do you aim the combat shotty center of head or maybe a bit lower?

[ocean spindle]

headshots

those at point blank are the most consistent to oneshot

i think combat shottie doesn't have the damage to oneshot unless it's with headshots

otherwise its 2 taps

[sage pulsar]

is this more or less consistent than the knife

[ocean spindle]

uh
both can be consistent if u do it well

it's not like it depends on rng

[sage pulsar]

wait whats the reach on the knife lol

[soft crater]

Combat shotgun can oneshot pretty consistently within 4-5m ranges partly to pellet spread next to how center you are on the enemies head

I'm usually lazy and just 2 shot unless I'm crunched for ammo or I weaken with primary then kill it off with combat shotgun

[ocean spindle]

wiki says 1.75

[tardy ingot]

It is a pretty good loadout for what it wants to do

2 pretty strong weapons with ton of ammo and holding power

A surge? Not an issue at all

[tardy ingot]

Knife isnt inconsistent

It just has a wonky path

[soft crater]

Hitbox be funny

But people have adapted to using it

My only issue is when I hit body instead of head with it.

[lone mortar]

funni

[frail heart]

you just gotta not aim for its head and it'll hit its head

[narrow niche]

Non confusing gtfo advice any%

[frail heart]

i saw that

[analog oriole]

It's only been a month since I've been playing for 40 hours. I was so curious about the story that I looked it up and found that it was divided into alt and existing universes. The first letter of the Rundown says alt, but are all the timelines we play alt except Rundown 7??

The translation is weird because I use the translator

[frail heart]

You learn more about this in rundown 8

And yes, all the rundowns apart from rundown 7 and 8 are ALT rundowns

[analog oriole]

Thank you so much for answering.

I just want to ask you one more question. Which is closer to the true ending, the alt universe or the existing universe?

[frail heart]

You will have to play rundown 8 to find out

[analog oriole]

Is the alt universe the ending of annihilation and the existing universe the ending of escape??

[past mesa]

It is pretty obvious in the game once you beat r8

[analog oriole]

Thank you so much to both of you who answered my questions. Have a great time.

[unique bison]

is there a way to choose who's voice i use?

[past mesa]

Play that character

[unique bison]

how to choose tho

[past mesa]

There is a mod

Other wise it is just the order you join

[unique bison]

nice

may i ask the mod name?

[past mesa]

Don’t remember jarhead made it

Pre r8 I thinks

I think it is like lobby slot selector

[unique bison]

thx a lot

[lone mortar]

its changehostslot

[soft crater]

Iirc that's host only

But for the most part. You either join last or ask the host to bot lock other slots aside from bishops

[versed frigate]

what is the meaning behind like r1 to r8 is it like a difficulty thing or a world system like in mario bros

[jagged shore]

more like sets of campaigns

not too dissimilar to mario bros worlds, but not exactly alike either
cause generally mario bros worlds do increase in difficulty, but that's not really the case here

[versed frigate]

oh ok, thanks for the info

[ocean spindle]

it just kinda separates its themes too, as r1 is like a big tutorial, r2 its infection, r4 is secondary sectors, r5 is difficulty, etc etc

but well r1 keeps being the easiest one top to bottom, even if its a1 its a lil tough

[dry pumice]

It is technically the "chronological" turn of events and that's about it.
Every rundown is a separarate campaign that has its own' unique difficulty and design philosophy for how the levels and challenges were made.
For example rundown 6 is considered just as easy if not easier than rundown 1 (in reality it starts you off easy, but the deeper levels are much meaner than R1 ones).
Also new rundowns introduce new biomes and new mechanics. Sometimes.

[civic wave]

I don't think this is the world where rundown 6 is widely considered easier than rundown 1 (because it's not)
yes, the first level of rundown 6 is much kinder on newer players than the first level of rundown 1, but that's about it

[dry pumice]

1 is the tutorial rundown, 2-3 are irrelevant filler (or Tutorial+, depending how you look at it), 4 introduces optional objectives and is where "the real game" starts, 5 is cursed, 6 relaxes and throws some sinematic flare at you, 7 is like a balanced golden middle ground with unique levels, and then 8 puts up a party for the closure of the game.

That being said: every rundown besides 1 and 3 has at least one "oh, fuck me sideways" level that you will hate one way or another.
Maybe... Maybe R6 is an exception too. I can't really say anything bad about any particular level in there. I got some bones to pick with C2 and C3, but honestly, in retrospect... They could've been so much worse.

[soft crater]

me wondering if person named "crayon eater" is going to understand all these words

[dry pumice]

(although with sniper rifle nerfed as it is the idea of C2 worries me)

[civic wave]

it's fine, just use any other good gun

hold corner with scatter, use burst cannon, whatever

use sniper still but just have a slightly worse time

[dry pumice]

Well, he is "Certified", so i assume there's at least something there to work with.

The Crayon Eating college got glaring recommendations, i'm sure

[versed frigate]

hahaha i like your funny words friends, but really, thanks for the info

[rapid warren]

i see a bunch of solo runs being done with dmr+scattergun, is this a like a very solid loadout for a semi-nub?

i tried it and i was using up my scattergun all the time

[soft crater]

Solo runs are typically veteran players

[rapid warren]

yea i see that

[soft crater]

What are you trying to solo?

[rapid warren]

rn im trying to do r8c2

im doing it w bots tho

im just asking if dmr+scattergun would be a valid choice

[soft crater]

I imagine your bots have the typical carbine-burst / MGs

[rapid warren]

yup

thx to u guys helping me w that

😅 not failing that much anymore

[soft crater]

It's a valid choice if you're comfortable using scattergun against things like tanks

Otherwise it's still a good choice for giants

[rapid warren]

hmmm ok

i was thinking for a tank i could just run hel revolver

[ocean spindle]

dmr scattergun for a level like r8c2 sounds fine
i would probs swap the scattergun tbh for bot runs cause u can never run to the back since no one covers u

[rapid warren]

but idrk

[ocean spindle]

i would go more for something more flexible as high cal or chokemod or whatev else

[rapid warren]

run to the back of?

[rapid warren]

ooo choke mod, i will check that out

[ocean spindle]

yes cause tanks weakspots are on the back but with bots hes always facing u

since the bots are with u

[rapid warren]

i tried high cal, kept missing my shots LOL (skill issue)

[soft crater]

Since you're with bots. You don't really have someone to distract tank to easily get a backshot view of their tumors

[rapid warren]

ah ok gotcha

[ocean spindle]

yeah u probs just need something more precise

i wouldnt go for prec rifle since theres a lot of other enemies and shedows arent an issue with bot bio usually

[rapid warren]

ooo ok

i will try choke mod and prec rifle then

[ocean spindle]

and yeah i would probs go hel revo and not dmr just for, reload and pen since u can get some sick hallways

[rapid warren]

what about hel shotgun?

[soft crater]

Most solo players run DMR because it can oneshot shooters and has range

(Ofc. Practically everyone. Hates shooters)

[rapid warren]

oh yea and they run the damage booster?

[ocean spindle]

yeah so they oneshot strikers tooo

[rapid warren]

oooo

[soft crater]

Depends on the run. But I imagine most don't run boosters

[rapid warren]

i needa stack up on those

[ocean spindle]

if u have very very good aim and one of those u could try

[rapid warren]

gotcha

[soft crater]

Any muted main damage booster will allow dmr to oneshot strikers to the head btw.

[rapid warren]

thats cracked

[ocean spindle]

it would be fine i just think this level has some sections where u need to take shots from afar, but it could be very good if u funnel on ladders or similar which it does have a lot of

[rapid warren]

if only my aim was better

[soft crater]

Dmr without any dmg booster leaves a striker with like 0.3 hp

[rapid warren]

ooo funnelling on ladders?

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[rapid warren]

sorry 💀 im rlly trash at the game

[ocean spindle]

nah its ok
i mean how far into c2 are u

[rapid warren]

oh

[soft crater]

Gtfo is a huge learning game

[ocean spindle]

the most far i got with bots was the first tank and then i just die

[rapid warren]

i only got to r8c2 cuz my friends just carried me all of the other r8 ones

💀

[ocean spindle]

similar to me ngl

[soft crater]

I'm curious if yall did B4 when it was pre-nerf

Or after

[rapid warren]

last time i failed at the tank

cuz the prev alarm messed me up bad

[ocean spindle]

but tbh i would treat these runs then as just pratice and not real runs, u could also try more shootin levels just to test ur aim and sneakin and just practice
maybe even do some solos

[rapid warren]

😭

[rapid warren]

mmmm im def trying!!!

[ocean spindle]

c2 with bots its ok but the ending and some rooms will be just very very rough without a 4 team

or a duo at least

[rapid warren]

idek

i started playing gtfo beginning of this year

LOL

~january ish

[ocean spindle]

:D

[rapid warren]

oh rippo

😭 ima just finish some other rundowns then

tysm guys

[ocean spindle]

okee good luck, u could also try the b1 solo achievemtn while u at it on r1b1

cause funny but very good practice if u take aiming weapons

[rapid warren]

ooo alr!!!! will do

[ocean spindle]

could one just run away from the funny boss in e2?

whats there to stop u from just runnin to the finale

[soft crater]

B4 is before C2 and prior to the nerf. It was potentially one of the hardest levels

[digital mural]

B4......

the "normal" alarm that acted like a surge

fun

[soft crater]

Well. It's more so the sheer number of enemies.

And it ramps up

[digital mural]

yeah but at the time you dealt with all of the enemies the next wave already spawned

almost no room to take a breath

[soft crater]

well the number of enemies is already decreased anyhow

[lone mortar]

become Eva

[ocean spindle]

the makoning v2

[lone mortar]

shut

you aint in the club

[ocean spindle]

the jokes so boring now just telling me to shut up now

is it even a joke do u want me to shut up

[arctic marten]

dw slendi he doesn't understand jokes

once he comes up with one, he must run it into the ground and beyond despite it not even being funny

[lone mortar]

yeah im just that cool

no jokes really gets around me

[arctic marten]

you are truly a black hole for humor

[ocean spindle]

i was startin to doubt if it was a joke and if u just wanted to block me

but was messin with me

[lone mortar]

why would i do that

[ocean spindle]

cause the last 2 weeks u just told me to shut up

[lone mortar]

comedically

[ocean spindle]

u told me to die lmao

[lone mortar]

where

[ocean spindle]

on the ping slendi channel

[lone mortar]

in game

in game*

[past mesa]

true

[ocean spindle]

maybs im overeacting but saying that aint like super comedic

also what game

it was me askin for comfort after a funky decision ksmdkm

wdym

[lone mortar]

dropped

you never said anything back

[ocean spindle]

yeah cause what do i reply

when i get said that stuff my instinct its to just walk away skmdkm

[lone mortar]

and now you decide to reply cause

[ocean spindle]

cause its tiring

and it is kinda makin me overthink

[past mesa]

can u guys

move

to dms

[ocean spindle]

im sorry

[lone mortar]

and the 2 week once per 4 days was?

[arctic marten]

dont move to dms

[ocean spindle]

i shouldnt be discussin this here

ill stop

[arctic marten]

no discuss this here

[ocean spindle]

im sorry

[arctic marten]

dont be sorry

[ocean spindle]

discuss these hel rifle

[past mesa]

drama feind

[arctic marten]

go get em

i love drama

[ocean spindle]

discuss this isoco stinger

discuss this uh shadow giant

[soft crater]

Mako Drillhead be like

[ocean spindle]

mako when drilling:

[soft crater]

[lone mortar]

fuck how did you know

[ocean spindle]

theres no spear sticker i forgot

[past mesa]

ngl

i thought kaiser was eva

[ocean spindle]

exact same pfp goes wee

i actually dont know how i recognize people, if by name or pfp

i never stoped to think about it

[arctic marten]

nightmare blunt rotation

[ocean spindle]

omg nightmare gtfo reference

[past mesa]

what

are you saying

[ocean spindle]

nightmare strikers go wee

[arctic marten]

im saying that kaiser and eva would be a nightmare blunt rotation

[past mesa]

idk if i have the ability

to do that

[arctic marten]

chill out its just a funny hypothetical, you dont gotta do shit

[past mesa]

no you chill the fuck out

be like chill dude

[arctic marten]

can you go in lore channel and tell frostty that i want to play r4 with her

[sage pulsar]

how do you guys react to 3 strikers crawling past your ankles

[unreal gazelle]

disgust and violence

walk back and shoot them

[bold ginkgo]

Let them pass cause they aren’t my problem lol

[dry pumice]

What a weirdly specific question. You don't just shoot every mutant you see?

[frail heart]

You gotta shoot every biter and jugger you see stagger doesnt matter

[soft crater]

Depending which guns I'm using.
And if there isn't anything immediately infront of me. I would turn around and get the back bonus shots.

It especially means an easy oneshot back bodyshot revolver if it's a striker passing me

[feral patrol]

Okay so I'm more or less brand-spanking new to GTFO and this server

I saw in rules that you aren't allowed to play previous rundowns (refered to as ALT), so only the current rundowns

I'm in the lobby mage for GTFO where it shows me R 1-8, with some of them also labelled ALT.

I can only play R8 in here right?

[frail heart]

The previous rundowns arent the ALT ones. The ALT rundowns are re-releases of the original rundowns. The original rundowns are the ones you cant play in the server

Anything in the game now you can play here

[feral patrol]

Ah I see

if one so wished, how do they play the original version of an old rundown?

[ocean spindle]

mods or replacing files

[frail heart]

You gotta get it from somewhere and download it

[feral patrol]

how come players don't have access to original rundowns without the use of mods?

[frail heart]

Because they were removed from the game

And arent intended to be played again

Especially because they are in older versions of the game

[feral patrol]

Why have they been removed from the game?

[dry pumice]

The game used to work on weird experimental battle pass like system where when new Rundown (campaign) was added - the old one was removed.

They went back on that and that shoe alts were born.

[ocean spindle]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
this was cause it allowd experimenting without needing to rebalance or fix old missions

[frail heart]

Because originally it was when a new rundown was released, the one before it was removed. But after rundown 7 came out, they decided to re-release these rundowns as ALT rundowns where small stuff was changed such as map layouts etc

[feral patrol]

I see

so how different are these re-release rundowns (ALTS) from the original rundown?

[dry pumice]

Not much.

[ocean spindle]

not alot, the most big difference its just the weapons became stronger, but as the missions themselves just some rooms being changed

[dry pumice]

Rooms are slightly different, sometimes.

[ocean spindle]

some minor design on some scans or stuff

some enemies being introduced sooner

[dry pumice]

The biggest change is that you have access to more and better guns than you used to.

Some enemies were downgraded on some specific levels, but it's whatever.

[feral patrol]

I see. so it's like slapping on a new coat of paint, to make the design better and better align it with the devs vision?

[frail heart]

pretty much