gtfo-related-questions

[strange jolt]

strafe left*

thats what you get for dodging

[ocean spindle]

what kind of WASD do u play on so A is backwards

[strange jolt]

i tank projectiles like a real gamer

[strange jolt]

im just stupid

[soft crater]

*shift all the keys 1 to the right

But yeah I forgot which moderator is active in the wiki

[ocean spindle]

laptop gaming would make me play awfully

with one of my hands over my other hand

[soft crater]

But I recall them saying random ppl kept adding random aliases to the enemies tab

[ocean spindle]

they still are

someone added weird names to tank

i should edit those out

[strange jolt]

did the sleepy names ever got put in

[ocean spindle]

no

[strange jolt]

damn

surprising ngl

[ocean spindle]

i doubt sleepy wouldve dared to touch the wiki, also cause t/o account u need ur ip adress

so like

[soft crater]

The funny thing is people won't realize Spaghetti dimension is there for snatcher because of the bug getting stuck there.

[strange jolt]

well tbf theres a few people here who would do that to troll, but they might already be banned from doing so

or the idea just never came by them

[ocean spindle]

yeah so apprently someone names the tank 'shelly'

[strange jolt]

weird but is pablo in there for immortal

[ocean spindle]

but that is a name people use

i havent heard anyone say shelly

ever

theres 4 mentions of that name in the server and none of em are related to tanks

[strange jolt]

is editing literally just open to anyone who sets up an account?

shelly seems like a weird inside joke thing someone just put in

[grizzled patrol]

Not Pedro? Such a disapointment

[strange jolt]

who is pedro

[ocean spindle]

someone named the big strikers 'vaughn'

[soft crater]

Who tf calls nightmare shooters "Spread shooter"

[ocean spindle]

im editing these out

[grizzled patrol]

Ayoo?

[turbid horizon]

[strange jolt]

i was thinking of shotgun spread and you def weren't

[soft crater]

Lol Ninja got removed from normal shadows

[ocean spindle]

i never heard the name 'hydra' for tank either

[soft crater]

Hybrid: "Cancer"

[strange jolt]

im guessing the "grunt" for striker is an internal name because who tf calls them that

[soft crater]

I hate hybrids but aight

I don't think it is.

[turbid horizon]

Nope

[strange jolt]

what about "female" for shooters

[soft crater]

I don't recall any of them being "grunt"

[strange jolt]

bro who is saying these

[turbid horizon]

internal name is striker_wave or striker_hibernate

[soft crater]

The white ones or the tanned ones

[turbid horizon]

Replace striker_xxxxx with shooter_xxxxx

[strange jolt]

are these names people used to have for them back in the 1700s

[turbid horizon]

Pale ones are hibernators

Darker ones are wave ones

[soft crater]

Ik

[dry pumice]

I sometimes refer to them as women, feels natural 🤔

[turbid horizon]

And they correlate to which ones are sleeping and which ones are spawned from scouts/alarms

[strange jolt]

where did matilda and frank come from

[turbid horizon]

frank is a common one

[civic wave]

hydra is an old name for tank

[strange jolt]

for chicken and giant respectively

[civic wave]

because you know, 3 heads

[turbid horizon]

idk who matilda is

never seen that one

[soft crater]

The hell

Big shooter

[turbid horizon]

Chicken

[strange jolt]

the tank has 3 heads?

never noticed

[turbid horizon]

3 tongues

1 head

[soft crater]

Well chicken is common because of their hands

[strange jolt]

oh

[turbid horizon]

Don’t ask

[soft crater]

Why

[strange jolt]

i mean yeah chicken is way more common than big shooter id say

but matilda seems random

never heard anyone say it

[soft crater]

Was mentioning that towards Matilda

[civic wave]

I don't recall seeing matilda on that page ever

you can always check the version history

[soft crater]

But yeah I didn't clarify

[turbid horizon]

Like, my names for giants are “chicken, big/giant, bbc, big shadow”

Also hybrid/hybird depending on my current level of troll

I’ve never heard matilda used once

[strange jolt]

this is what i hear the most too

[ocean spindle]

markiplier gameplay

[soft crater]

Also dak

[strange jolt]

oh

[ocean spindle]

soloing b1 i think

[turbid horizon]

Names for tank I’ve heard are tank, dad, hydra, and rarely behemoth

[soft crater]

Where the hell is Crawling scout

[turbid horizon]

Scoot

[grizzled patrol]

Do we have any wacky names for moms? Beside birther and Queen birther

[strange jolt]

why is crawling scout zoomer

[turbid horizon]

It’s labeled as scout_zoomer

[strange jolt]

bruh

[turbid horizon]

that one’s fine

I call em scoots

[strange jolt]

just sounds off for the official name

zoomer

[turbid horizon]

I mean, it’s fine

[soft crater]

Ik but zoomers aren't on the wiki

[turbid horizon]

Better than crawling scout

[strange jolt]

it is isnt it?

[ocean spindle]

they r just not on the box

[turbid horizon]

hmmm

[strange jolt]

like the actual name

[ocean spindle]

search zoomer scout

[turbid horizon]

Riiight

[ocean spindle]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Zoomer_Scout

[fierce walrus]

i used to call regular scouts scoots before R8 for the funnies. Now 10cc stole that option from me

[turbid horizon]

They’re not there for spoiler purposes

[strange jolt]

theyre under r8 release enemies

[ocean spindle]

they should theres thing to hide spoils

[soft crater]

There's a spoiler button to press to reveal r8 enemies

[turbid horizon]

huh

[soft crater]

Zoomer isn't included

[turbid horizon]

nvm then

They just weren’t invited ig

[strange jolt]

i see it at the very top of r8 enemies on mobile

[ocean spindle]

thye r on the page but not on the box

idk how to edit templates

[strange jolt]

who bothers with those anyway? tru i assume?

[grizzled patrol]

Nightmare Babies are also Not included

[fierce walrus]

ngl im not surpised about that

[turbid horizon]

They’re literally used once

[fierce walrus]

that saying... i feel like i have seen them on the wiki

i know the potat is on the wiki

[ocean spindle]

tbf potato too and it has a page but arent babies a recolor

[grizzled patrol]

Yeah but potato is listed

[weary mesa]

^

[ocean spindle]

thought babies where the same just with another skin

[fierce walrus]

adds nigthmare mom and nightmare babies. Does not make nigthmare mom spawn nigthmare babies. Wtf

10cc in a nutshell

[ocean spindle]

that moms not a nightmare

its just big wdym

if not it would spawn nightmare strikers too

[grizzled patrol]

They are Just massively upscaled Heads with a Texture over it

[fierce walrus]

ehhhh? i mean, its literally only in R8, the rundown that added nigthmare variants. Plus i doubt it just got that big naturally (plus the fact it has tumors not just on the back makes it diffrent from the other moms)

fuck meant to reply to slendi

fuck

[ocean spindle]

i see u

not like i dont know

but well idk still feels just like a pmom but bigger not necessarily a nightmare variant, feel it owuldve had tentacles or no head or somethin

to make it in line

[fierce walrus]

i mean it has a snatch attack doesnt it?

or am i delusional

[grizzled patrol]

She can shoot, but Not Sure about licking tho

[fierce walrus]

she can lick 100%

but i feel like she can also snatch?

but im not sure about that

[grizzled patrol]

Nah she cant

[fierce walrus]

so i am delusional

why am i not suprised

[ocean spindle]

only basic attacks

[fierce walrus]

also ngl if she spawned nigthmare strikers that fight could get really brutal probably

[ocean spindle]

yeah

it can get out of hand super fast

[fierce walrus]

just absolutely getting rolled by like 20 of them

[grizzled patrol]

Idk maybe a snatcher Got lost and Got you from another Rundown lmao

[fierce walrus]

are there any snatchers in R8D2 before that point even?

[ocean spindle]

yes

some in the error section

[fierce walrus]

oh the "punish" waves in the error?

[ocean spindle]

and one in ext maybe

[ocean spindle]

not the punish the normal ones

[fierce walrus]

oh right yeah one in secondary

[fierce walrus]

oh maybe, i dont remember that

[ocean spindle]

normal error with the floodgates closed still spawn snatchies

[fierce walrus]

so i guess thats technically possible... t e c h n i c a l l y

[grizzled patrol]

Music is still playing, surely a guy is Just stuck on a Box

Whoops wasnt meant as a response

[fierce walrus]

so, when we doing R8D2 but we keep all the snatchers alive till the end

snatcher%

[ocean spindle]

u could come back upstaird with a snatcher and kite around mom i think

snatchers can go to the down part where u cant come back up

and just take u up again

[fierce walrus]

wait they can e l e v a t e ?

i remember doing it with a bot and they just casually phased through a wall without even going up the ladder

[ocean spindle]

they can pass through a grid that teleports em to another grid from what i understand
grids that we cant go through but they can

[grizzled patrol]

i just tested it out. Nightmare heads dont have any multypliers. both the shooter and the striker took the same damage to the head as to the body

[fierce walrus]

you mean the heads that are like 5 pixels big?

[grizzled patrol]

yes

[ocean spindle]

wheres zone 71 in r8a2?

apparently it has shadow giants but i do not find that zone on the map

[lone mortar]

There is a shadow sitting on a chair there as well

[ocean spindle]

oke

uh someone knows how bads the error alarm at the end of main btw

i always thought it was like pretty big

is it like 10 enemies every 20 seconds or somethin?

the r8a2 main error

[fierce walrus]

yeah its tough, especially if you count in the zone with extract. Id say 10 enemies per 20 sec is probably a reasonable assumption

[grizzled patrol]

71? isnt that a zone that a door leading to R8A1?

wait it IS in R8A1

[ocean spindle]

its on a2 too, its a lockdown door i think

but idk where

i cannot find it

[grizzled patrol]

i just looked through it

there is no zone 71

only 70

funny enough secondary (bulkhead door) is also in zone 70

there is 71 in secondary, but its nothing special

[lunar rain]

I didn’t find it terrible, but I kinda just ran

But like you said there is a lot

[ocean spindle]

i need to find the stats for it

[rapid warren]

if u play with bots, do u usually run with 3 other bots or like 1 other bot

and like what is a preferable loadout for bots in general cuz of their funky mechanics

im so over

[thorn dawn]

for bots give one of them a bio tracker

for their weapons go for ehh the veruta machine gun

[rapid warren]

oh huh

for me i always see my bots just use the hell out of their primary and barely touch their special

[thorn dawn]

also never give them a c foam launcher

[rapid warren]

yup!

[rapid warren]

😂 LOL WHY

sorry kinda nub

[thorn dawn]

they are really bad at shooting goo on the exact place you want it to be on

[rapid warren]

oh ic

i thought it was because they just couldnt conserve it

also do u have reccs for their primary?

secondary -> machine gun

[civic wave]

primary weapon they enjoy using burst rifle

[rapid warren]

oh wow ok

[civic wave]

special weapon, normally either veruta machine gun or sometimes short rifle, normally just veruta though

[rapid warren]

oooo short rifle

will try, thx a lot :DDDD

[thorn dawn]

another tip i can give is
don’t play with bots on a level with a lot of chargers

[rapid warren]

i also heard like they could use the sniper

but that was on reddit somewhere

[civic wave]

unfortunately sniper isn't a very good weapon nowadays

[rapid warren]

oh yaaaa i only do with bots cuz my friends dont play i mostly just solo w/o bots

[thorn dawn]

they really are goldfish against chargers

[civic wave]

and reddit is kinda, well, it's reddit

[rapid warren]

oh

[rapid warren]

hahahaa

[thorn dawn]

literally punching bags

[rapid warren]

HAHAHAHA

[civic wave]

the people who give good advice on reddit are on discord more often than reddit

[rapid warren]

really wish they had improved the bots :(

do u guys recc like the betterbots mods?

[rapid warren]

oooo ic

[thorn dawn]

is that even a thing

[rapid warren]

👍 u guys are very helpful

[thorn dawn]

idk im not really a fan of modding the game

[soft crater]

it is.

[rapid warren]

yea same

i just run one mod which just makes the indicator for ammo and tool colored

[soft crater]

more people mod in this game than you'd think

[thorn dawn]

i always want the authentic gtfo experience

[thorn dawn]

i know

[rapid warren]

lol yaaaa

but try out the custom levels :D

solo trials is pretty nice

[soft crater]

then again. it depends how heavily modded someone is

[rapid warren]

thx a lot guys

👍

[soft crater]

I can understand QoL stuff

[rapid warren]

💀 i gotta get better at soloing

[soft crater]

personally I despise the click and holding of every button

[thorn dawn]

the only kind of mod i would like to try out is where the models of big strikers are replaced with shreks

[rapid warren]

LMAOOOOO

there are similar mods that was like it replaces the scout scream with the thx sound

[thorn dawn]

that sounds dope

[civic wave]

isn't solo trials like

[rapid warren]

https://thunderstore.io/c/gtfo/p/Rune/THXScout/

oop

[civic wave]

a very funny rundown from zaero and something a beginner should probably stay away from

[soft crater]

Solo trials iirc. has some adjustments not normal compared to vanilla

[rapid warren]

idrk

i was watching hinoki play it

[soft crater]

a friend of mine was thrown off when he played vanilla because he got so used to solo trials

[rapid warren]

rlly?

i didnt rlly feel that much

[thorn dawn]

are custom levels out there worth playing in your opinion? like are they as good as the vanilla levels?

[soft crater]

it was something with crouch walk speed and etc.

[rapid warren]

i havent gone too deep into solo trials tho

[soft crater]

unless that was changed since then

[rapid warren]

i personally only tried like legacy and solo trials, some feel like regular gtfo others are like a completely diff game

[soft crater]

Legacy is just E tiers

[rapid warren]

yea

idrk im a noob

[soft crater]

shit ton of chargers

if you're a newbie and wanting to try modded rundowns. there are better options ngl

[rapid warren]

also wat r ur guy's opinion on the double tap

[thorn dawn]

dmr is better

[rapid warren]

💀 yea...

but looks cooler

😭

[soft crater]

DTR is a gun that has potential to be great otherwise it's just aight

[rapid warren]

yea feels just like burst rifle kinda

[ocean spindle]

with great aim and recoil control it's one of the best but hard as shit to do that

[soft crater]

Mainly because you can one burst strikers/shooters.

[rapid warren]

omg trutrutru

[thorn dawn]

if you like burst stuffs you probably would love the carbine

[rapid warren]

ooo i will try that more

[thorn dawn]

its really like irl vector when you sync the click at the end of burst

[soft crater]

Carbine is great. the downside is it can chew through ammo relatively quick

[rapid warren]

LOL
spray and prey

🗣️

[soft crater]

which is really it's only downside unless you don't like bursts

[rapid warren]

do u guys mostly play solo or with friends?

just curious

[soft crater]

Solo with bots or true solo

[rapid warren]

ah based

🙏

[rapid warren]

yea the burst part is where im drawn

[thorn dawn]

all my friends hate gtfo

[rapid warren]

HAHAHAHAH SAMEEEEE

omgg

my friends tried it once and were like "bro this is so repetitive"

😭

[thorn dawn]

i mean my lil bro plays with me but he is into valorant so much these days

[rapid warren]

🙏😭 not valorant!!!!

i mean i cant lie, gtfo gameplay and gameloop kinda repetitive

idk how u and i enjoy it

the graphics are great tho

[thorn dawn]

but the difficulty makes it not boring

[rapid warren]

i mean the difficulty is real

but like the things u encounter each time is mostly the same

"scan" "scan" "bioscan here"

[thorn dawn]

true

[rapid warren]

with only varying things being like oh this is a sustained scan, room scan

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean spindle]

the thing that personally always keeps me interestes is how barely any level resembles another one and every single one tries to be differente

[rapid warren]

oh huh rlly?

[ocean spindle]

theres of course some that are just the same thing, but they are the minority

[rapid warren]

oh yaaa

but i feel like that also helps

[thorn dawn]

dude i keep seeing the same looking place in multiple different levels

[rapid warren]

to me it seems the devs are trying to convey we are prob in the same region as another rundown we did

[soft crater]

Fix ur A key slendi so you can carry

[ocean spindle]

think of any level, idk, r2b4
fog turbine
r5b3
very long error alarm and thunderdome
r4c2
the overload and sec

[rapid warren]

but i def would like more of the items in a level to be interactable, like even if its just breaking the glass on the test tubes

that would be so cool

[ocean spindle]

that would be bit of a pain to code for not much ksdmkm

[ocean spindle]

:[

[thorn dawn]

if this game didn’t have secondary and overload ngl there would be way less fun in the game

[rapid warren]

yea thats tru

ig game just gotta appeal to a specific group

[ocean spindle]

i mean even without em most levels past r6 can do a fuck ton with just main

and r2 has a fuck ton of cool levels with very different ideas

even r3 has some very cool ones like d1

[ocean spindle]

niche game goes brr

[rapid warren]

the thing i feel is that the players are always drawn to the same game loop of:
drop into complex
find res
do alarms
do scans
find objective
do alarms
do scans
run
extract

but im just coping

[rapid warren]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

real!

[ocean spindle]

i mean it tries real hard to put something new on top of that, even if it's something simple like r3b1 with the 3 alarms in the same zone, r4a3 with a more hard overload that requires goin very deep into a zone, even r1, with b1 shooter only level and c2 introducing chargers n stuff

[frail heart]

Brother has not played past the b levels

[ocean spindle]

it always tries to make something different

there's very few levels in the game that u can say it didn't do nothing

[rapid warren]

oh yeaaa

ig im just ignorant

[thorn dawn]

i admit that

[rapid warren]

lmaooo

[rapid warren]

yea r6 was the big one for me

i def agree

[rapid warren]

😭 omggg yeaaaa

im a nub

[ocean spindle]

nah i mean u just new, and if u go around A tiers a lot it's hard to notice

it's usually mostly just environment changes or very subtle things

[rapid warren]

yea 😭

my friend who has like a lot of hrs in the game just spoils me in the later levels, like idek wha im doing im just following 99% of the time

[ocean spindle]

well that's shit

u should tell em to stop

being carriers just so boring

[rapid warren]

yeaaaa i love the environment changes

my main drawn to the game :DDD

[soft crater]

GTFO newbie experience is great

[rapid warren]

😂 HAHHA

yea i did thats why i just play w bots now

and i asked about good loadout HAHA

[ocean spindle]

kdmskd

nice

[thorn dawn]

that can make playing this game not fun at all

[rapid warren]

😭

i think he was just trying to show me the game

[ocean spindle]

yeah i mean being told what to do in every single mission in the first place it's weird
learning the game is a big big part of the fun

[rapid warren]

but bro just solo speedran thru it all

[soft crater]

A lot of "experienced" players have habit of hard carrying newer players.

[rapid warren]

yeaaaa i will try to get a group that would be the same level ig

[thorn dawn]

i have experienced that and for like 2 hours i was just yawning while sticking to their asses

[ocean spindle]

that's why i always recommend asking specifically to not get carried

[rapid warren]

😭 wtf rlly?

[rapid warren]

💀 downs me

[thorn dawn]

so true

[ocean spindle]

no u don't need that just ask em to not carry and not spoil and ur fine

[rapid warren]

OMG yeaaaaa

[ocean spindle]

if they just be a backer for when y fuck up

and explain some basics

it can be a ton of fun

like they let u fuck up first and then they explain

[soft crater]

Imo experienced players and Veteran players aren't the same.

[rapid warren]

oh

i will ask him!!

[soft crater]

Though running into Vets is rare if you find one doing LFGs

[ocean spindle]

people who do that of just lettin u die and then explaining why i think it's some of the most fun players

[rapid warren]

i thought this was just my friend being a bum

LOL

[ocean spindle]

kdmskdm

[frail heart]

Most vets have a team

[rapid warren]

letting u die?

😭 that does not sound like fun

[soft crater]

Like Hange and their pookies

[frail heart]

Lol

I WOULD have been an actual vet if i wasnt fuckin 14

but at least i've followed the game since OG r1

[soft crater]

I've been stuck on the destiny grind and I CAN FEEL MY RUST AND AIM LACKIN.

It hurts.

[upper ginkgo]

what does being 14 have to do with anything

[soft crater]

[frail heart]

No job no money no bitches

No pc

[ocean spindle]

dyings a big part of the game, i mean not always u need to of course if ur fast and understand the game to a base level u can get out of dicey situations
but eventually it has to happen, and it's ok, that's just how u get better

games hard, ur bound to fail

[soft crater]

I've seen some crazy kids do big plays/great gaming ability

It just makes me know I'm getting older as the years go by

[rapid warren]

ohhh u meant that, yea definitely, i thought u meant like ur team is getting overwhelmed and they just let u die cuz fuck u 😭

[frail heart]

Yeah like i really wanted to play the game then but i was poor and in fuckin 8th grade lmao

[lone mortar]

Washed up

[rapid warren]

YES

🔥

thx a lot

[lone mortar]

Im so you solace

[soft crater]

I deadass am

[thorn dawn]

idk got interested in this game a year ago

[ocean spindle]

haha loser [sorry had to]

[thorn dawn]

i was like 16 last year

[lone mortar]

I do be taking blazblue now into account

[ocean spindle]

i was like...
74 last year

[lone mortar]

Shut it chair

[thorn dawn]

💀

[lone mortar]

Ppl literally sit on you

[ocean spindle]

yes

[frail heart]

Sit on me?

[lone mortar]

I dont wana hear it

[ocean spindle]

homosexuality

[lone mortar]

You eat ppls ass

[soft crater]

A priceless antique 74yr old chair

[lone mortar]

Stfu

[ocean spindle]

so real

[soft crater]

[frail heart]

More than you'll ever do

[lone mortar]

Do i need to?

[soft crater]

[lone mortar]

Or is you jealous of that chair

[ocean spindle]

also solace what's up with ur
new face

[soft crater]

Kraken?

[ocean spindle]

kraken

[lone mortar]

Gotta send a message some how

[soft crater]

|| fun note. That's the Kraken that glitched into the reactor in R8E2 ||

[ocean spindle]

gotta say how much u love r8b2

lmao

ik which one

dak showed it to me

[lone mortar]

Wheres rieman when you need him

[soft crater]

Yeah Rose got that and it was funny

[lone mortar]

Gtfo bad man

[soft crater]

Ishowspeed: Man When does this game start getting good???

[thorn dawn]

lol

imagine ishowspeed plays gtfo

[rapid warren]

its so funny watching new new players play for the first time

😂 the confusion

always the funniest part

[frail heart]

you can get kraken in other dimension as well

its funny

[soft crater]

Bots unfortunately get blamed by newbies. Quite a lot

[lone mortar]

Dang you haven’t seen him play ark?

[lone mortar]

Just dont play with em

I never did bots when i first played or came back

[rapid warren]

me

💀 i just cannot understand why they were programmed to rush to disinfect me when im in the fog

[soft crater]

Unfortunately doesn't stop newbies who can't get a full group in R1 levels :/

[lone mortar]

Well its the same when youre 20hp

[lone mortar]

Gid gud at making friends then

I mean i did it with you

[ocean spindle]

wll usually one does not consume fog like that for most levels, its just mostly like 2 3 where u need to fog dive

[lone mortar]

Adding up to context you had full reason not to play back then

[soft crater]

That's most experienced/vet players who've stuck with the game for so long tbf

Me having been here since OG R1.

[lone mortar]

I wouldnt say it but its a similar problem running

[rapid warren]

oh ok

[frail heart]

🫡

[soft crater]

I forgot.

My current SSD

Is a gift from friends I made playing GTFO

(Old one bricked)

[ocean spindle]

awwwwwww

[lone mortar]

Reeeell

[meager obsidian]

are shotguns like the scattergun able to kill scouts?

[past mesa]

MAYBE

[ocean spindle]

scattergun has enough dmg to oneshot bigs so yes it can in the body in a big window

[past mesa]

scouts maybe have 42 hp

scatter maybe does 150 dmg

[meager obsidian]

yea its abt 150

[past mesa]

so

[ocean spindle]

as of pump shotgun, choke mod they can with most pellets hittin a headshot, slug shotgun can with the bullet square to the head in a 6 meter range, sawed off can in a very short range since very wide pellets, and combat shottie its dangerous but it tehcnically can with the occiput or two hits in the front

[meager obsidian]

oh wow thank you very much

[past mesa]

choke mod

can spam

[ocean spindle]

think its the same for hel shottie too but those two u just dont use, just melee em

[past mesa]

you dont need to hit all pellets

just dump

[ocean spindle]

ah true

i forget chokemods fire rate

[past mesa]

same with combat and hel shotty

you can just spam

[ocean spindle]

well but those in the head no?

hel shotty idk but

combat?

[past mesa]

na

you can just back shot spam

or melee swap shot

[ocean spindle]

seems a bit too dangerous with the combat, hel shotty at least has the stagger

[past mesa]

na

it is completly safe on both

if you arent stupid and shoot them from 20 meter

[native sun]

Combat shotgun has more stagger per shot...

[ocean spindle]

does it

omg

ive been living a lie

[lone mortar]

138.2

Also hai jish

[past mesa]

153.6

[lone mortar]

R u doing brazil skip?

[past mesa]

you should double check

[lone mortar]

Wait am i looking back at previous patches?

[past mesa]

yes

[lone mortar]

How did it just got 20dmg for free

What

[past mesa]

fast brazil skip

[sturdy glen]

r8 diet went hard

[past mesa]

haha

[lone mortar]

I am very far behind

[native sun]

It had 120ish and went to 150

[past mesa]

r8 meta now

[native sun]

Never had 130

[past mesa]

very cool

[lone mortar]

Last i checked it had 138

Or 128 if im having a moment

But holy 150

Are they injecting IIX what were they thinking

Are they just doing this out of R8A2 and E2 playable for folks

[lone mortar]

Also truu mind if i take you for like a few arguments

[frail heart]

YO actual?

can i watch?

[lone mortar]

Wow

And i look like a D rider

[frail heart]

shut yo bitch ass

[lone mortar]

Ill knock yo aussie ass out

[frail heart]

nuh uh

[lone mortar]

I know where you live

I will literally go over there

And ill tell on ur mom what hours of sleep u get

[frail heart]

I get a good amount of sleep thank you

[hidden ridge]

Sleep.

[narrow niche]

you have no room to speak

little shit

[lone mortar]

okay homeless

u make a valid point by sleeping outside

[narrow niche]

im not homeless

[lone mortar]

no u dont

[narrow niche]

my house is worth a lot

[lone mortar]

yes u are

[narrow niche]

ok

[lone mortar]

whats 2 cardboard box gonna do

[narrow niche]

</3

old ass

[narrow niche]

wow

ok

i thought you loved me

[lone mortar]

nuh uh

[narrow niche]

oh ok

here i thought we were friends

i guess not </3

[lone mortar]

Blud never texts me

And is only there to boo me

“Real” friend moment right there

[narrow niche]

</3

fine

ill text you

needy ass

[lone mortar]

Nah i for one atleast ask

You only turn up cause i said something

[narrow niche]

</3

leaving you

[lone mortar]

Man fuck you i never said i liked you anyways

deadass

[narrow niche]

the server is too dead for this

[lone mortar]

Aint as dead as your necromorph lookin ahh

[frail heart]

DAYUM

[narrow niche]

youre the old one here

mf

youre dying earlier than me

and i wont even die a natural death

goofy ass

[lone mortar]

I could have knock yo bitchass back to the dumpster back then

Ur lucky i was running on 3hrs of sleep lil bro

[narrow niche]

we are both

running on 3 hours of sleep

dumbass

[lone mortar]

No you aint

Lyin ass

[narrow niche]

dementia lookin ass

[narrow niche]

i wish

i really do

[lone mortar]

Stfu before i kick u in the mouth

[narrow niche]

do it

i dare you

[lone mortar]

[narrow niche]

when and where

[lone mortar]

R8C2 tank scan

I will skin you and yo no ass lookin behinds

[rapid warren]

😳

[lone mortar]

Want whats hes having?

[narrow niche]

2 bbcs

right now

[lone mortar]

Back up fore u get slapped up fam

[lone mortar]

Too black, have some standards

Broke ass

[narrow niche]

YO WHAT

[hidden ridge]

Hi exoad, have any gtfo related questions for us?

[lone mortar]

Yeah i said it

Now stfu

[hidden ridge]

As you see it's the topic of this channel

[narrow niche]

aint no way

[narrow niche]

lies

[lone mortar]

I cant belive it beepo is baiting

[rapid warren]

uh not rn

LOL

had to double check the channel name

[lone mortar]

Im kidding beepo dont murder my friend ship with u

[hidden ridge]

Let us know, we've a ton of GTFO related questions here

[rapid warren]

❤️❤️thanks!!! will do, u guys are so helpful

[hidden ridge]

Like: "Can I get the latest on speedrunning drama?" And a fan-favourite "Hel Shotgun: How does it feel to you?"

[rapid warren]

hel shotgun 🥰

haha

[narrow niche]

NO

NO

NO

NO

[rapid warren]

ok is the sloog shotgun anygood

[hidden ridge]

"Why is RXAX so easy/hard/boring?"

[rapid warren]

the range feels so short

[narrow niche]

DONT SUMMON THE SLEEPY

[lone mortar]

Man you should had been here

[keen seal]

because it is

[hidden ridge]

"Really, the game is too easy, everyone should just quit it"

[rapid warren]

💀 yea

[lone mortar]

I could run with this thing while carrying on muh back guys

Trust me its QoL

[narrow niche]

^

[lone mortar]

Man stfu

[narrow niche]

:3

[lone mortar]

You contribute nothing

[keen seal]

not the best main out there

[lone mortar]

Shut it

[narrow niche]

just like you irl

ong

ong

[lone mortar]

You too

[narrow niche]

im a minor

[lone mortar]

Slave of work

[narrow niche]

whats your excuse

[keen seal]

why so aggressive Kaiser

[narrow niche]

:3

[lone mortar]

My excuse is “suxk ma d” biatch

Whatchu gon do bout that minimum wage doer?

[narrow niche]

something about no gay while eating wasnt it

[lone mortar]

Cry on ur cardboard bitch

Broke ahhh gay smellin bum

[narrow niche]

kaiser speedrunning third ban

any% ban

[lone mortar]

Hey you started it

[narrow niche]

i did not

you asked me to

dumbass

[lone mortar]

You literally did start it

[narrow niche]

i told you the server was too dead

theres literally.

no one is going to see this.

[lone mortar]

Na you tripping

This server is so active

[narrow niche]

reaching

[keen seal]

🪦R.I.P gtfo discord server🪦

[narrow niche]

so dead

[keen seal]

when is the server going to die?

any predictions?

[dry pumice]

10? 20 years? I have no idea what this playfab thing is and how popular it is.

[ashen frigate]

When Black Dragon will post his ultimate review of the game on Youtube

[lone mortar]

Nah he aint

Too busy cockblocking on deep rock

[dry pumice]

Oh or we talking about this discord server specifically

[lone mortar]

Yes artek

Yes

[dry pumice]

In which case, uh... Could be 5 could be 15

[narrow niche]

2

days

i mean

[lone mortar]

Okay you need to leave

[narrow niche]

</3

[dry pumice]

This game is not that amazing to play it forever

[lone mortar]

[dry pumice]

Although it'll probably stay as skeleton for the newbies

[lone mortar]

Holy shit stop moving, famous last words

[narrow niche]

rude but ok

[lone mortar]

Yea sure lil bro

[narrow niche]

i mean itl just be like before r8 again

[narrow niche]

</3

[dry pumice]

For all intents and purposes we already see it in the semi alive state. Same 4 people talking in circles. I've honestly been considering leaving myself.

[narrow niche]

nooo

:C

losing artek </3

[rapid warren]

💀 yea

oop late reply

funky discord

[keen seal]

discord moment

[rapid warren]

sorry

[lone mortar]

Lets just say that if youre enjoying dota or what ever else you play

We be happy for you

Best moment that i can never forget about you is R8D2

[dry pumice]

What did I even do, aside from getting progressively depressed as wipes went on

[lone mortar]

The fact that we took the whole weekend

[narrow niche]

you literally helped me

[lone mortar]

And 8 retries

Beat it

You was the happiest man

[narrow niche]

LMAO

[lone mortar]

Hey when it comes to artek i cant shit talk him like yo goofy ass

Let me have a moment here

[narrow niche]

i can

but i shouldnt

and i wont

i forgive you for that. artek

[fading root]

Me and my girlfriend struggle to beat R1C1 (reconnect) with bots, is that even possible? If so, any tips?

[past mesa]

It is very possible to beat the level without any bots and two people

Where are you holding and what tools/guns are you using

[fading root]

we were staying in the reactor room so we could complete the verify task when needed, and our tools were all sentries. As for guns, I ran burst pistol and hc pistol, and my girlfriend ran sawed off and combat shotguns

[past mesa]

Okay so you have a lot of time generally people recommend holding the room with the bridge and the hole in the way

That way you are closer to the resources

[fading root]

gotcha

[past mesa]

as well as you can just run back at like 40 seconds and you have more than enough time to plug

what sentries do you

Also you gf has a fun loadout might not get the most damage but if definitely workable just you have to play really aggressive

[fading root]

because the enemies push through so fast, we used shotgun sentries and the bots each had HEL auto

[past mesa]

so probs you want either sniper sentries or burst sentries

shotgun and hel just burn through tool so if you use them early you probs won’t have anything late

[fading root]

true, but like I said, when we're behind the sentries, the enemies just push through faster than the sentries can even get a lock. This time, hilariously, I tried guarding beside the door and my shotgun sentry managed to hit me, took me from 100% to downed instantly lol

[past mesa]

Yeah shotgun sentry is just almost never the issue I think you might be placing your sentries wrong and there is probs better spots for both sniper and burst

[fading root]

I placed them facing the entrance, but back enough that enemies regularly would stop to use melee/ranged attacks in the line of fire

our main issue is that by wave 4, we're almost completely out of ammo

[past mesa]

R you carrying big packs into the reactor

[tardy ingot]

all the issues at once…

id recommend watching professor scalers guide on it

[upper ginkgo]

.t r1c1

[past mesa]

If you want to solo carry you can also learn hel gun

Then just solo the waves with no ammo

[fading root]

yeah when we enter the reactor we each have an ammo pack with 5 at least

[past mesa]

You have to push for ammo in teen the waves

[fading root]

got it

now it makes a bit more sense why it gives us so much time

I thought of that before, but was just worried I'd not make it back in time

[past mesa]

Yes if you hold in the bridge you won’t have enemies around for a long time after waves

[past mesa]

Doesn’t matter

You will be fine

[upper ginkgo]

all being late does is potentially pushing back the spawns

[past mesa]

But if you hold bridge you just catch up

[tardy ingot]

theres ressources in the actual bridge zone (easy pickings for the first 5-6 waves) then when the timer gets rly long you run off to the earlier ressource zone

[upper ginkgo]

so you might have less time to kill

[fading root]

I see

we'll try holding out on the bridge this time

[past mesa]

And switching your sentries

Right?

[fading root]

right

[past mesa]

Right?

[tardy ingot]

also give a bot a biotracker

[past mesa]

You don’t have to stack them all in the same place btw

[fading root]

sniper probably, since I just don't enjoy the burst as much

[past mesa]

It is better they are switched around

[tardy ingot]

bio in generaly is great and helps in shooting enemies for players (plus makes sniper sentry a lot better)

[past mesa]

Then definitely take a bio

On bots

[tardy ingot]

burst sentry carrying pubs since Rundown 6

[past mesa]

You could probs afk around a burst sentry

[upper ginkgo]

but they're all oblivious to it

[civic wave]

I trust burst sentry to keep me safe more than most players at the game

(even gerz, she'd be tabbed out)

[past mesa]

I like tabbing out during speeds

[fading root]

haha, it sounds like burst is better than I thought, I might try it out again

[civic wave]

I love checking logs for 3 different keys

[fading root]

and how exactly does the bio tracker interact with sentries?

[tardy ingot]

it buffs sniper sentry (and shotgun sentry, but shotgun is pretty shit so eh)

[past mesa]

With shotgun and sniper it makes them shoot faster and use less ammo

[tardy ingot]

bio in generally should always be a pick on your team tbh

information (for free) is op

[past mesa]

The info is the big thing

[fading root]

exciting, I'll have a bot run a bio this next time

don't know when my gf and I will be able to play again, unfortunately, so I'm not sure when I'll be able to share my win or loss lol

[upper ginkgo]

gl gl

[past mesa]

Just practice hel gun the carry the entire game

No issue

[civic wave]

burst cannon probably better, hel gun harder to carry boss kills with

just burst drag 4head

[past mesa]

I mean you could just learn the best load if you care about bosses

Helshotty scatter

[fading root]

maybe, but when it comes to guns, I'd prefer to have fun over meta, unless it completely takes winning out of the picture, in which case that should obv be fixed lol

[past mesa]

It is better than it used to be

[upper ginkgo]

but the meta loadouts are fun

[past mesa]

they do be fun

And a decent amount to choose from

[fading root]

I'm sure they are! But I like to mess around and test out different builds pretty often

Like in EA Battlefront survival, that one was a good game mode to test different weapons in

and figure out where my aim sits with different gun types in general

[upper ginkgo]

player weapon selection will always converge to hel revo / hel gun given an infinite amount of time

[past mesa]

Hel shotty scatter

idk man

I use it in every speed run and it is the correct option

[upper ginkgo]

ok how do you kill the shooters sniping you

[past mesa]

I shooter cap

And dodge

[fading root]

that's unfortunate, seems like buffs for other weapons would be in order, wouldn't it? Because I feel strongly that anything with a clear meta should be balanced more, not necessarily with nerfs tho because that takes some of the fun out of it

[past mesa]

Well no

Pen shoukd have just been nerfed

Like day 1

In current state it doesn’t matter what you buff other guns to do

pen is a broken stat

[upper ginkgo]

I say it jokingly, plenty of people prefer running non-meta loadouts just because they like the feel more

Game's weapon balance is fine for the most part

[fading root]

that's good lol

[upper ginkgo]

gtfos game design centers a lot about bringing the right load out for the right level

[civic wave]

until you get to a certain point where you force any loadout on any mission because you're well above the skill level required to clear the level

[upper ginkgo]

yep

[fading root]

like r1a1/r1b1 now

[dry pumice]

Bad guns still bad irrelevant of clear rate.

[fading root]

for me

[civic wave]

but taking the right loadout as a less experienced player will still be helpful

[past mesa]

Yeah

just you can actually force anything anywhere minus some very stupid challenge maps

[fading root]

oh, and since I'm running with the two bots (just for revives and extra sentries), what guns do they make the best use of?

[dry pumice]

Burst Rifle, Carbine, Machine Guns, Short Rifle, Burst Cannon.

[tardy ingot]

burst rifle and veruta machine gun

[dry pumice]

And Double Tap, to an extent.

In the end I converged to have 2 bots in Burst Rifle + Veruta for crowd control, and then one carries Double Tap Rifle + Burst Cannon for actual attempts at damage dealing.

[fading root]

With mine and my girlfriend's loadout, I think we'll put both bots on crowd control

[dry pumice]

Particularly happy when the guy assists me with giant stealth by tapping them to the back after I initiated. Saves me a lot time.

Yeah, with 2nd players around that is optimal.

[past mesa]

Your gf has one of the best Cc weapons in her loadout

[dry pumice]

The main selling point of BR and LMG is that they are very slow on running out of ammo, so you don't curse your run by feeding all of your supplies to bots.

[fading root]

Alrighty. Thank you all for the advice, I have to head out to an appointment, but hopefully will be able to test this soon!

[tacit panther]

What's good, I am having an issue. Does anyone know why the screen is moved by the tilt of the controller?

[civic wave]

if tilting your controller is moving your crosshair/changing where you're looking you probably have gyro enabled somewhere

idk I don't play on controller

[digital mural]

what controller are you using

[tacit panther]

Playstation 4

[digital mural]

you have gyro enable

as Pachi said

[tacit panther]

Thank you, I will give it a try

[soft crater]

Gyro is pretty nice ngl

Though I know not everyone likes it

(Even though I've seen some kbm/Controller shenanigans using it to help control recoil)

[past mesa]

You can delete messages as well if you feel like no one should see them

[ocean spindle]

its ok no dumb questions here

[rapid warren]

oh yeaaa

👍

[past mesa]

There are some dumb questions but theirs wasn’t one

[rapid warren]

yea oop

idk

[native sun]

If there aren't enough enemies for HEL shotty to be the better choice you're simply not going fast enough

Can this reactor spawn enemies faster for my hel shotty to get value please and thank you

[narrow niche]

^^^

[lone mortar]

shut

[narrow niche]

<3

[vagrant venture]

this is a "bad point" because apparently you can use "what you want" but reality is "only one choice is the best" and also if you dont know everything about some levels your first try of every "section " will be always death. This is not a "roguelite game" is hardcore , difficult ok but theorically your skill have to be more important than level design, no, you can be the best player but if you dont already know what happen from that point the game is repeat and repeat again the same mision changin also loadout untill you solve the "enigma"

[keen seal]

ain't reading allat

[frail heart]

Would not say so at all

[keen seal]

I guess kind of but I'd say only the hardest levels make you wipe over and over to get some progress if you are going completely blind

[vagrant venture]

d and e for sure, even some c

[frail heart]

Not for experienced teams

Also the game wouldn't be hard if trial and error wasnt a thing

Being able to first try levels literally takes away the "hardcore" aspect of it

[vagrant venture]

i accept try and error if i have to improve my skill

not if you create something that i need to know in memory to pass it

[frail heart]

If you know HOW to complete a level do you always first try it?

[upper ginkgo]

I mean I'd argue that being able to deal with unexpected situations on the fly is part of the skill expression

[frail heart]

100%

[upper ginkgo]

Although I can see where you're coming from

[frail heart]

If you watch any good players like say fireblade, samdb any people like that

[vagrant venture]

what i mean is we are a team we have a standard loadout, we know how to play , you have to give us a possibility to first try or second try a level (remember that nothing of this game is explained from the game)

[frail heart]

They can first try blind d tiers easily

[vagrant venture]

not sure today impossible to know

[frail heart]

Decision making and working out what to do is also a skill no?

A level like e2 used to be hard for me even though i knew how to do it, it just took skill that i hadnt fully developed

If i was a better player back then, i could have first tried it like now

Even now i play randomised loadouts on e2 with shit ass guns but still pass

This isnt due to me knowing the level

[vagrant venture]

for what you can expect yes, from something designed to do before than another thing (but you dont know) no

[frail heart]

The game would be boring

It would not be as successful as it is

[vagrant venture]

there is a limit from hard to stressful

[frail heart]

The thing is

If you dont want a stressful game

why play a game this is considered "hardcore"

Thats the whole point

You can still play things in the game that are hard and stressful

Brazil skip for example

This isnt something you complete even in 4 hours of trying even if you know what to do inside and out

[vagrant venture]

I play a gem NOT because is hardcore but because this game is the only one really co-op with greath athmosphere

but probavly i will never finish it because is simply too much

even if i love it

and i can't see the whole game because someone want his d**k bigger

[odd pasture]

u r making little sense

[vagrant venture]

just to feel pain on the player

i really love it

[odd pasture]

this isnt about ego

[vagrant venture]

but i have a life

[frail heart]

No joke

Just get better

[vagrant venture]

and my life cant permit a game to be so fuk**g bastard

like a souls

[odd pasture]

you are playing a hard game and complaining that its hard

[vagrant venture]

sometimes is simply too much

[hidden ridge]

"If you dont already know what happen" Newbies struggle with R2C2, I did that on first try with vanilla bots, and I dont think at all that I'm a prodigy or whatever

In fact it's kinda easy

[frail heart]

then dont play it

[hidden ridge]

Game tends to asks a lot of times the same question

[vagrant venture]

is true for some level not for alla the game

[frail heart]

For most levels it is true

[upper ginkgo]

I think they're just frustrated about the game's difficulty and upset that content is gated behind skill, which is kinda understandable tbh.

[frail heart]

Ig thats fair

[vagrant venture]

sometimes this game is just a sudoku, find the solution and finish the level BUT before to find the soution you need to know everything in the level and to do it you have to do the level 10-20 times

[frail heart]

But how can you expect to play a hard game and just complete stuff easily

[frail heart]

But you wont complete it just based on knowledge

You have to be skilled

[vagrant venture]

not easily, i repeat hard and stressfull are two different things

The game can be hard without beeing stressful

[frail heart]

Being stressed is part of the experience

I dont know what you want with it tbh

[vagrant venture]

there are some perfect mission where you have to balance noise, ammo, programming alarms etc

[frail heart]

Being stressed usually comes with a game being hard

[vagrant venture]

it's up to you, you can do it

[hidden ridge]

I mean it's all a moot discussion since it's a PvE game, go install a mod that makes things easier if that's what your group feels like would be best

[tardy ingot]

Id argue it kind of is

knowledge of the level is a big part of making levels easier. But thats kind of to be expected in every single game thats ever existed with level design

[hidden ridge]

And I dont mean that ironically or with disrespect, just install a mod if your group wants an easier time

[frail heart]

Yeah but a skilled team with no knowledge of a level will 99% of the time do better than a shit team with knowing what to do in a level

[vagrant venture]

but other are simply, take everything on your face dude, monsters, fog, big monsters, alarms and error alarms you survived? well thake also a reactor before to leave

[dry pumice]

Yeah, welcome.

This game is sadistic at times.

[tardy ingot]

So theres a game thats intentionally challenging for people that like a challenge

And instead of going like“hmm, maybe the challenge isnt 100% for me“ you go „bad design“

[vagrant venture]

i'm already welcome dont warry i repeat i love it

[upper ginkgo]

rip sleepo's perfectly valid suggestion

[vagrant venture]

but at certain point i have to leave my love because my life can't permit to redo and redo and redo missions just to discovber the next step to bring by memory

[frail heart]

I feel like this is like complaining against a rougelike not making you OP straight away and you having to actually play to get better and be stronger

[hidden ridge]

I mean it ain't anything new

[tardy ingot]

Isnt that common for a lot of games tho?

Its just that most games arent made to be challenging in mind.
But theres a lot where its still the case. Souls games obviously. But even other games

[odd pasture]

well then the game requires more dedication that you can muster

[dry pumice]

There's plenty of levels where I was like "alright, now you're just being mean"

[odd pasture]

put it down, move on

[hidden ridge]

There were a couple of group that I remember posting about bugs that were actually introduced by the "checkpoints on all rundowns" mod

[odd pasture]

[vagrant venture]

the point is not to cry and move on the problem is that there are problems of design

[frail heart]

This is not a design problem

[tardy ingot]

yes. But those are extremes

its like when people say loadouts dont matter
Like no shit a top team with bad guns will clear easier than 4 beginners with meta loadouts

But 4 top players with shit loadouts will struggle more than 4 good players with good ones

[upper ginkgo]

Well I'm not saying I agree with them, im just saying that I can sympathize with their mentality and understand why they're frustrated. I think it's fundamentally an issue of player expectation/wants conflicting with the game's core design.

[odd pasture]

okay so what level wold you say has a design problem

and where in that level does it lay

[vagrant venture]

if i can't pass a level only because you forced me to learn the level to not waste every second ..yes

if i died because im noob ok

[hidden ridge]

Let me guess, any level with an error 😄

[vagrant venture]

if because my friend make an error yes

if is only because you know and you prepare the game because i certanly die 110% ....fun the first time...but no

[hidden ridge]

You're not forced to always do all sectors

[odd pasture]

in a standard setting, GTFO does not require you to :
a) play perfectly
b) know the whole level by heart

[tardy ingot]

Ah!
Yea i can 100% agree with this being the case

[hidden ridge]

If it's shit like r4a2 and you're new just do Main, then after that Secondary

[vagrant venture]

bullshit

[odd pasture]

no its not

[hidden ridge]

Then once you did both Main+Overload then PE

[odd pasture]

like it just is not

[dry pumice]

Oh there's plenty of that.

[frail heart]

Idk just dont think complaining about a core game design is idk

[vagrant venture]

will ask to a dev... impossible the prepare it because you have to die and learn

[dry pumice]

There is a certain level that takes an hour and got a meeeeean surprise in the end that will kill 95% of squads.
No checkpoints either. Haha.

[tardy ingot]

the only levels i can think of that give you massive curveballs which can kill runs immediatly and arent common are

R7E1 with last reactor wave keeping spawns going longer
Maaaaybe R8D2 extract wave spawns

[tardy ingot]

Dying and learning isnt bad design

[hidden ridge]

I think you're thinking of way too late curveballs

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[odd pasture]

yeah there are levels that will take a majority of 4 player squads 2 or more attempts, is that bad design?

GTFO is marketed as a hardcore game, which is meant to be hard

[hidden ridge]

Newbies can die at stuff like any screech door

Or fail to prepare to a blood door

[tardy ingot]

Newbies can die at everything