gtfo-related-questions

[hard nexus]

It's only really noticeable in r6b2

[harsh geode]

109775243300612087 моя карта зависла и я не могу ничего сделать кто-то может помочь:? The card is frozen and I can't do anything. Can someone help:?

[sick hollow]

what a good recommendation for a beginner at solo content

i have decent knowledge of the game with like 150 hours

but havent dabled much ion solo content and want to try and get my solo b level

[past mesa]

R1b1

Hel rev high cal

Sentry or mines

Go north twice then do class two

Then choose either giant or class 3

[ocean spindle]

pulling the giant zone its way easier in my opinion with mines

and high cal

if u dont hit headshots well n stuff u can also maybe go normal pistol but hel revos the indisputed best choice

[livid stone]

just dont pull the giant zone

simple as

[wind wren]

what waves do the flyers spawn again on r7e1 reac?

its 2 and 3 flyers only right? and then on wave 4 mixed?

i dont remember

[native sun]

Wave 1: Smalls and Hybrids
Wave 2: Flyers and Big Flyers
Wave 3: Smalls and Hybrids, then Flyers, then Smalls, then Flyers, then Tank
Wave 4: Chargers, then Flyers, then Chargers, then Tank

[wind wren]

oke thanks a lot

[wind wren]

does host interact differently q pablo?

[native sun]

What do you mean?

[wind wren]

just stuff like ai

[native sun]

No then

[wind wren]

ok thx

[obsidian forge]

is there a section dedicated to regions?

[hidden ridge]

yes "highlighted communities"

[obsidian forge]

thank u

[civic wave]

there are regional lfg channels (see id:browse to give yourself access), but there's a lot of crossposting between regional channels

[fleet shadow]

spoiler-free please: what weapons do you recommend for r4d2?

[ocean spindle]

uhhh there isnt a lot of specifics to what to do on that lvl tbh

maybs thermals if u really want to but

[past mesa]

Hel rilfe(this is in fact a spoiler)

[ocean spindle]

apart from that not much

[past mesa]

Bio

[civic wave]

anything that's ammo efficient and a cfoam launcher

[past mesa]

C foam

Mines

[ocean spindle]

avoid sniper as usuaal

[past mesa]

Burst cannon and scatter aren’t bad

[strange jolt]

have the foam guy on overtime and pray for back spawns

[fleet shadow]

thanks a ton

[rare blade]

yall i cant speak in discord for some reason

yet i can speak in GTFO and hear just fine

any solutions?

[rare blade]

PLZ HELP

[fossil jacinth]

Did you have a windows update recently?
Updates like to reset discord sound devices for some reason, just go to your input/output and make sure the right devices are set if you updated

[signal quiver]

how does auto matchmaking work?

if I join my friend and we matchmake, does that let us play the map we want to play?

[past mesa]

it doesnt

[signal quiver]

lol like at all?

[past mesa]

there is no players that use it

and two many levels

therefore it doesnt work

[sterile carbon]

What does it mean by "old" rundown in the rules. I just got the game and didn't understand what it meant.

[past mesa]

it means the alpha rundowns

[sterile carbon]

Oh thanks

[past mesa]

and the versions before the release

everything in the game atm

[sterile carbon]

I thought it mean the first few rundowns

[past mesa]

you can play

yeah ik it is worded poorly

[sterile carbon]

Thought it mean the first few i would have to do alone

Thanks a lot

[past mesa]

gl gl

[sterile carbon]

Is there a way to set a fps cap for the game

I kinda want to let my gpu relax

[past mesa]

yeah

[sick quiver]

did solo R1A1 get buffed? I was able to speedrun it easy last year but now I get wrecked on 1st door scan. Could be bad tho (also am not up to date with updates)

[native sun]

It is very much the same.

You might be getting hit by heat bug (makes giant spawns much more likely if you just booted the game), but that has also been in the game forever.

[hard nexus]

Oh my fucking god

What, do I need to copy paste what sleepy messaged Riemann for you mm refusers

[hard nexus]

Depends

If in the end of it either of you are still host then you can reselect the level. Usually it changes the map when lobby is populated but sometimes it also changes hosts so you'll have to talk to ppl

[frail heart]

No matter what you say discord LFG will always be better than matchmaking

The ratio of MM users to LFG users is massive

[hard nexus]

The point is not better or not better

But by saying absolutely no one is using it you spreading misinfo

I've been using exclusively mm since r8 release and a lot of ppl use it

[frail heart]

I wouldnt use that as a reason to use it

[hard nexus]

But I wouldn't straight up lie

That no one uses it

Every single one of ya would

[frail heart]

Lmao

[hard nexus]

nowadays i wouldnt be so sure

[grizzled patrol]

Tbh i would rather say that there are more MM Users than LFG Users. Since the majority of MM Users are beginners that dont want to get Out of their way to search for a group, eventually resulting to playing with bots

[sterile carbon]

Yeah

[grizzled patrol]

GTFOs daily average amount of Players is around 1k where as the average amount of LFG Users is only around 50 people. Does that mean that the Rest of the Players are MM Users? No. A Lot of them Could be private lobbies. But considering the fact that LFG Players are only 5% of average Players you can derrives different conclusions

We are simply Missing Info to say anything for sure

[sterile carbon]

Yeah the sample size here is kinda skewed since the people who do join a server for the game are probably doing so that they can find a group to play with

[hidden ridge]

A deviation from what you're talking about but MM also has a way higher chance of finding someone who cheats tbh

[tribal delta]

im very new to this game and just was in a MM group, but i had to leave cuz i got the weird bug where i couldn't interact with anything all of a sudden; but pretty sure the guy hosting the lobby was cheating, either that or he was the offspring of Steven Segal and Chuck Norris

[frail heart]

The sample for LFG is 100% bigger. Max players would be around 50 but thats not total players

[latent obsidian]

I reckon the vast majority will be private groups

[frail heart]

Yep

[latent obsidian]

So its kinda hard to tell the split between MM/LFG

If @hard nexus plays MM a lot I'm curious how often you run into the same players

[grizzled patrol]

Like i Said, it is an average, between the lowest of being current 7 Players and very generous 100 players

[frail heart]

Yes I know but max players at once and total players is different

[grizzled patrol]

Correct. I am Not counting each individuall player

[sterile carbon]

@grizzled patrol nice music ur listening to btw

[grizzled patrol]

Surely one of the devs is Reading this and can give some real values

[frail heart]

Surely lmao

[latent obsidian]

all devs are busy writing den of wolves lore

[hard nexus]

And instead of simply acknowledging the fact of missing info they choose to misinfo

[hard nexus]

Actually I made a lot of friends in mm and occasionally they get put in the same lobby. But that doesn't happen often so every time it does its a surprise for both of us

I'd say maybe once a week I run into someone from friendlist who is mm enjoyer

Sometimes I run into mm enjoyers I haven't added to friendlist but that happens on rarer basis

Like once per2-3 weeks

There is one guy who uses voice and he is really annoying I met them twice I need to remember the user name

In r1 it wasn't too bad

But on r8d2 I'm glad he willingly left lobby

From r8 releae to this day I only met 3 cheaters but it's as simple as exit lobby>mm and drop in with next team within the next minute

Literally when I launch the game I press mm and browse lfg simultaneously. Before I even see a lobby who needs a player or God forbid several lobbies like that and decide to consider my lfg choice, I'm already dropping in

[hidden ridge]

Cant speak for nowadays but when I used ingame mm a lot (OG R4 Ext, when I started playing) I used to get the same people relatively often. On the other hand the cheating/hacking was abnormally high compared to here. First time I saw doorbug was on OG R5D2 ingame mm. That and A LOT of people running chokemod shotgun with infinite ammo. If I were to be sincere I'd say that the blatant cheaters were (I'm giving a very rough estimate on something very old) around 10-15% of my ingame MM games.

With this discord lfg I think I find 1-2% maybe even less than that, and that's considering doorbug. Of course I'm not counting people with "QoL mods" like modded weapons or perfect boosters.

It's intuitive that since this Discord requires some, even little, account of credibility, people ARE going to cheat more with the ingame mm.

[potent terrace]

anyone using controller for this game, ps4 control on pc to be exact?

[grizzled patrol]

game has support for it, but met only one guy using it (even he saw it as suboptimal)

[potent terrace]

yeah the duck button is quite unavailable, i just bought on sale and im doing the tutorial ned to duck

i have a gaming keyboard with extra keys for binding time to make it happen

love the atmosphere, happy with the get

[grizzled patrol]

you can use your steam controller configuration to fix your issue

otherwise you can rebind any action on more comfortable puttons

[potent terrace]

ill try that, but im usiong mouse and key and i think it would be better to go this route though im an cod player so i prefer shooters on controller, for now ill mouse and key the tutorial.

it is night and day

[digital mural]

you will have to use the keyboard a lot of times

unless you have someone that takes care of terminals

[hard nexus]

on some levels its preferable for everyone to know terminal tho

just in case ur the one closest to it with 10 seconds left

[raven ravine]

If you got someone with a biotracker, mine layer, and foam what would be the ideal turret to work by itself. Shotgun?

[past mesa]

Burst

90% of the time

[raven ravine]

Man lol, is there any scenario where a shotgun turret is better?

[past mesa]

Not really there is probs some use case but they feel pretty forced and like there’s better options

[raven ravine]

Thank you.

[past mesa]

Sniper has a pretty good use case a lot of the time if you place it correctly.

[hidden ridge]

If you know you have a place with a long time window for the sniper to shoot AND you've bio, take sniper

Else burst

Of course it also depends if the distance from Bio is enough to have Bio tag stuff

[past mesa]

Or if the enemies you are sentrying require sniper

Ie r8 and shockers and chargers hybrids

[hidden ridge]

Well if the sniper doesn't have enough time to shoot at all (albeit that's a rare occurance) taking sniper doesn't make much sense does it?

[past mesa]

Well at a certain point it doesn’t ever matter what sentry you take

Killing one or two pre wave is pretty good with the extra scary ones

[fierce walrus]

if you have a lot of enemies in a very small area then it would probably outperform burst sentry in terms of killing the enemies and not letting them go forward

but otherwise burst would outperform it in pretty much every scenario

[grizzled patrol]

2nd Biotracker

[frail heart]

lmao

only in certain levels

[fallen kite]

Does bullet pen work on mom/tank tumours?

like can u hit two tumours at once if you line them up

[digital mural]

nope

[fallen kite]

shame

thanks

[ocean spindle]

u can hit people behind the tumor

:D

[fallen kite]

lmfao

[narrow niche]

Accidents happen

[grizzled patrol]

hit 5 mothers with a single bullet

[worn crow]

From what I understand you cannot damage any enemy more than once with one HEL shot (EX: shooting an enemy’s arm / leg that is facing sideways to you to attempt damaging both).

[raven ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-mandalorian-star-wars-this-is-the-way-gif-18467372

[lone mortar]

Kills me on multiple occasions

Accident happens

You are such a bad liar ifo

[narrow niche]

Lyt

[lone mortar]

[narrow niche]

uwwu

[soft crater]

IFO finding "accidents" to shoot teammates

[narrow niche]

I would never find accidents

I create them

[digital mural]

accidents? ||slendi is the kind of guy to line up perfectly to hit the guy behind the enemy||

[ocean spindle]

qwq

[soft crater]

So basically a Heretic

[lone mortar]

no solace

IFO only creates mfs that uses both ":3" and "mute" as an cover up for their crimes

[soft crater]

[narrow niche]

Ofc it's slendi

[narrow niche]

uwu

[digital mural]

its always him

[lone mortar]

man stfu

if only i didnt lag out

i had 14 POINTS ON THAT CRACK HEAD ADDICT run

[soft crater]

Still didn't score more than me

[lone mortar]

BECAUSE I WAS LAGGING

IM GETTING DOWN 24/7

[digital mural]

skull issue

[lone mortar]

[soft crater]

We all were experiencing it.

Not my fault you got the brunt of it

I chose to stay and fight in that one room while yall ran

(Which was when I also ran around and snatched all the syringes)

[lone mortar]

I RAN?!?!?

[soft crater]

You and someone else ran out of the room iirc

[lone mortar]

I WAS ON SCOUT ROOM CLEAR

YOU ALL HAD 1 JOB

[soft crater]

You prioritized killing over crackhead needles

[lone mortar]

okay now thats just straight up cap

yall died and brought mom on me

[soft crater]

I wasn't trying to meta game. I was trying to crackhead

[rare blade]

u were right, it was the device that was currently selected being off, thanks

[fossil jacinth]

Glad you figured it out!

[rare blade]

much appreciated

Im trying to take a detox booster but keep getting kicked

why does that happen?

[rare blade]

@wooden ginkgo were throwing in the towel and trying again tomorrow

ill ping u and everybody else when im trying

@rotund remnant do the same thing fr

@valid thicket

[jagged shore]

quick random question
i've never had it myself, but how do you know if you have the sound bug? where if you open your map you crash

[past mesa]

Yes

[past mesa]

What about it

[jagged shore]

how do you know you have it
is the sound like, really obviously fucked

as said before, i've never had it, just curious

[past mesa]

Sounds will stop playing

Muffle

Or become choppy

In part or in whole

[cold quarry]

ive had that happen on a long run but it didn't crash the game when i opened my map

but like 80% of the game audio was just gone, audio for pustules popping/heads cracking would stop after like 0.2s

[hidden ridge]

Yeah the first giveaway is the audio getting chopped (First thing I notice usually is the background noises disappearing, then gun noise getting chopped up)

[narrow niche]

drugs.

[narrow niche]

this could just be e2

e2 is very nice

and unglitched

[ocean spindle]

it
i mean

if u get soundbug on a2 u could very much get it in any other level with anything pretty much

so like

wdym

[odd pasture]

bug bug

[ocean spindle]

omg this game is buggy yeah of fucking course kdmsmd

but idk i don't see a reason why a2 should be more than the others

[odd pasture]

I have a small ask, if u keyboard smash next time could u pls do edefrjrneb instead of kdmsmd?

[ocean spindle]

i could see it with idk r7d1 between rundown 7 levels, or idk d4 in rundown 6 levels or something

[odd pasture]

thank u ❤️

[ocean spindle]

no

mostly cause my keyboard will just default to that anyway

with the autocorrect

[odd pasture]

[lone mortar]

Ky-never mind

[odd pasture]

[valid plank]

Can we do R7C2 Overload without error alarm and fog? I have to redo it because I didn't know we need a cell in there.

[latent obsidian]

You can do it without an error but full fog if you put one of the 5th/6th cells in there

no way to do it without both

[valid plank]

Thanks!

[fallow valley]

Does anyone here know if R2E1 - "The Crib" is doable with only bots? And if so what loadouts?

[frail heart]

Yes it is

[fallow valley]

They keep dying before the scan is complete which then makes it impossible to clear

[frail heart]

Which scan?

[civic wave]

probably the 1st surge

[fallow valley]

First scan, and if not the first, the second one

[civic wave]

it is possible but will be exceptionally painful tbh

it's been done before though

[fallow valley]

The bot's tracking system doesn't help because they move towards the enemy instead of falling off sides and whatnots

I got so fustrated dying for 3-5 hours that I just mined the whole place with all bots using mines. Which actually did it but after the wave two went down instantly and 2 big guys spawned

[solid turret]

Is it worth getting the game even if I know that my friends are not going to play it? How high are the chances of me finding some good people to play the game with on this server?

[latent obsidian]

Its a lot better to play with your own friends, but the lfg matchmaking on this server is reasonable if you aren't too bothered about having some mixed skill lobbies

[upbeat mural]

Last time I played I think bhopping was still a thing, and I think that slide sprinting was also a big thing as well (I can't quite recall how many years)

Are these still valid movement techs or have they been somewhat fixed

Or fully fixed for that matter

I don't think stamina was a thing when I tried the game for the first time

[latent obsidian]

They are pretty much fixed afaik

Sliding saves you some stamina buildup so over long distances will help you out a bit

But it doesn't give you any speed up

[upbeat mural]

and bhopping is just not a thing anymore I assume? Afaik now if you jump and hit ground it immediately wakes the room

[latent obsidian]

Yep

I don't know what exact part of the movement alerts the room but it doesn't work any more basically

[upbeat mural]

Kinda cool they cared enough to fix it but it was funny to see how people played it when it was a thing

[ocean spindle]

not really
on paper it is but on practice since bots don't carry heavy items in combat, u would need incredible backtracking and way too much ammo

u could probs get to the final bit of the level but that's it

no more apart from there

[hidden ridge]

Vanilla bots no, better bots yes

Not counting of course some things like doorbugging or whatnot

That being said

T-nenpi soloed it

but I guess that doesn't count as "with bots"

Better bots loadout I dont think it even matters much, I tested the busted aimbotting version and they destroyed the shit out of the error waves

No idea if the "mild" better bots make it less easy but still doable

With all considered, if you're curious, I'm pretty sure you can give them Burst Rifle/Veruta regardless, melee doesn't count because they have the same melee no matter what you give them

[ocean spindle]

honestly i think some missions are harder with bots than alone
cause if for a level u have to kite 80 km away, the bots are bound to go down at some point, and so full team scans can't be completed n that kinda stuff
even with 4 tools sometimes i see kitings just the way

but of course this is outsider someone that doesn't know

so might not be the case

[fallow valley]

I never tried R2E1 solo yet but I think I'm about to. These bots are straight dookie and I'm about to tilt

[frail heart]

RIP

[soft kiln]

it is doable with vanilla bot

they actually do very good at the error

#gtfo-media message

you pull most of the room and let the bot protect you while you transporting the cell and the baby

the only problem is the first scan
they may refuse to scan if they climb the ladder twice

[rare blade]

how come when i join ppl and use a booster it kicks me, its just an aggressive detox booster that does it to

[dry pumice]

Either someone's abusing the shit out of kick mod, or your booster is sus

[livid stone]

Both tbh

[hidden ridge]

I mean if he really is "getting kicked" then the only explanation is that someone's abusing the kick mod

I'm all for host deciding who gets in and the rules of the lobby BUT at least tell them WHY you're kicking them, and specify you dont want X in your lfg post

[soft crater]

Iirc Kick mod abuse isn't allowed either.

Kind of circumstantial though.

[hidden ridge]

Personally I just think the game should have had an option when you create a lobby to make it either a "cant kick", "only host can kick", "votekick" so people know what they're getting into, and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I've no idea if there' a way to tell for sure 100% that the kick mod was used

[soft crater]

From what I understand. Kick mod is host only.

But yeah. Not being a built in feature is meh

[valid plank]

Does R7C3 have a log? It's say in Zone 162, i checked but there's nothing there.

[ocean spindle]

i checked real quick and yes
the terminal is RIGHT at the side of the door

like immediately right after

[digital mural]

slendi dropped into R7C3 in 2 mins and found the log

legend

[ocean spindle]

no

i checked gtfo maps :3

[valid plank]

i mean, i couldn't find the log

[ocean spindle]

but yeah it's up the ramp and to the side of the door

oh

[valid plank]

there's only auto status

[ocean spindle]

this isn't one of the logs that changed right

[tired aurora]

but R7C3 doesnt have a log wut

[ocean spindle]

uh check on andocas.com/gtfo
i think it should be there but as i remember r8 update changed some logs of r7

and spread em around

so maybe it was one of the ones

[digital mural]

the manuela effect

[valid plank]

guess my google spread is outdated :v

[tired aurora]

R7C3 definitely does not have a log

[ocean spindle]

if not just check the website

should be updated

and it also shows if u got everything from other levels

[valid plank]

thanks!

[ocean spindle]

it's oki

[frail heart]

It was one of the duplicate logs

[jagged shore]

yeah pretty sure that was one they removed in one of the updates

[frail heart]

Yup

As well as a few others

[atomic patio]

is there a planned date when the free weekend happens every year?

my friend wants to test out the game before buying it

[digital mural]

nope

so far through all the game life theres has only been 4 free weekends

[digital mural]

he can buy the game
play it less than 2 hours
and if he doesnt like it then refund it

[turbid horizon]

i thought there was 2

[digital mural]

4 with alpha and beta

[turbid horizon]

the R7 and R8

Oh

Well

I don’t count that

[fierce walrus]

i still feel like there were more free weekends during ALTs ngl

but it seems im just delusional

im prolly just confusing them with sales or smth

[rigid spoke]

any suggestions for generally good special weapons? i have been playing the mastaba revolver. i can deal with small enemies pretty easily since i can land the headshots but it feel as if this weapon is not very good at all against giants, though it does seem okay against chargers (think it kills in two shots from my memory)

or is it that i am supposed to switch to a main weapon (idk, been playing double tap because i can land the hs) to deal with giants

[fallow valley]

R2E1 is the worst mission BY FAR

[rigid spoke]

after i explode the giants head it feels like its almost a waste of bullets to shoot them since the double tap and revo reward precision and there is no longer a spot to aim at for damage bonus

[fallow valley]

shoot the thighs

with pr

[civic wave]

hel gun maybe, functions similarly to revolver but is better into giants and has penetration value

[fallow valley]

5 shots from pr should kill them

[rigid spoke]

pr?

[fallow valley]

one head, 2 each thigh

[civic wave]

revolver 3 shots chargers because it deals ~14 damage, hel gun 2 shots chargers becuase it deals 16.25 damage

[fallow valley]

precision rifle

[civic wave]

what damage calc did you run for that?

[rigid spoke]

why is shooting in thighs better than shooting in chest? thighs is a weakpoint?

[fallow valley]

no calc? Just a pr main

[rigid spoke]

ik i can maybe make them stagger but i just mean in terms of bullets/kill it should be the same?

[fallow valley]

pr and pdw main

[civic wave]

theres no weak spot yeah, it's just breaking limbs staggers

[rigid spoke]

i see

[fallow valley]

pr does 13 damage so I guess math checks out

[rigid spoke]

does the revo really not 2 shot chargers with hs?

[fallow valley]

should technically be 4 shots but I use 5

[rigid spoke]

i just fought some chargers and it felt like i was 2 shotting but maybe my team was poking the chargers

[civic wave]

PR deals 13 damage
120/13 = 9.2 bodyshots, so 10 shots to kill from the front
Giant limb health is 15, so one shot breaks head and deals 13*1.3*1.5=25.35 damage
This leaves 94.65 damage
94.65/13 = 7.28, so that's 8 shots needed to finish for a total of 9 shots to the front

[fallen kite]

Whats a PR?

[civic wave]

Like yeah back damage exists but that shouldn't be your argument for shooting the legs of a giant or PR being good

[fallow valley]

giants have 120 base hp

[civic wave]

and? I already calculated that did I not

yes you can kill with 5 shots to the back, but so can hel gun, choke mod can do it in 2 shots, burst cannon does it in one burst, etc etc

[fallow valley]

if you shoot the back of the head it does 2.5 times more damage

[rigid spoke]

how do you get behind a giant anyway lol

i mean unless you are in stealth

[fallow valley]

run around it or have someone decoy

[fallen kite]

when they're licking you can run behind them

[fallen kite]

if ur close enough

[rigid spoke]

ou

[civic wave]

actually it deals damage equal to the back multiplier * enemy precision modifier so for giants that's 2*1.5=3 times as much damage

not considering weapon precision multipliers

[fallow valley]

one pr shot with bonuses would be 32.5 damage

[fallen kite]

It's probably not worth it in most scenarios tho

to get behind them

it's risky

[civic wave]

13*1.3*1.5 = 25.35 damage on a regular headshot, double that to 50.70 for an occiput shot

I'm not sure where your math is coming from

[fallow valley]

a punch would do 40 damage from a giant

[rigid spoke]

what is blud saying

[fallen kite]

fr

[ocean lance]

[surreal sable]

[fallow valley]

crit multi- in r8 is 1.5 for giants + back multi- is 2

[civic wave]

yes, how do you get from 1.5 and 2 to 2.5, or from 13 to 32.5

[fallow valley]

13*2.5 = 32.5

1.5 multiplier is the same as base damage + half (base damage)

[jagged shore]

2.5 never comes into the equation bruh

1.5 and 2 are both multipliers
1.5 * 2 = 3

[fallow valley]

2 multiplier is double base damage. Add both multipliers together and you get 2,5

2.5

[jagged shore]

they are multipliers

[rigid spoke]

this mf adding

[jagged shore]

not add-ifiers

[rigid spoke]

but also

[jagged shore]

you multiply them

[rigid spoke]

did you add 2 and 1.5 to get 2.5

[jagged shore]

also that yeah lol

[fallow valley]

You add multipliers together because they are to different conditions

[jagged shore]

you don't know how math works

[fallow valley]

one is for back shot and the other is for head

[jagged shore]

you never add multipliers together

[rigid spoke]

even if that was the case you would get 3.5

[jagged shore]

they are by definition, multiplied

[fallow valley]

No you don't

that's not how a 1.5 multiplier works

[jagged shore]

you tryna tell us 1.5 + 2 = 2.5?

[rigid spoke]

try 2 + 1.5 on a calculator you will be amazed

[fallow valley]

bruh that's adding two regular numbers together

we are talking multipliers

[rigid spoke]

are you sober

[fallow valley]

what is 13*1.5?

[jagged shore]

yes, they're multipliers
why are you trying to add them

they are not additive percentages
they are mutlipliers

[fallow valley]

13*1.5 = 19.5

[jagged shore]

it's not +50% damage and +100% damage
it's *1.5 and *2

[fallow valley]

what is half of 13? 6.5

[rigid spoke]

im so lost in the sauce i dont even know what the original topic was about damage numbers

[fallow valley]

what is 13+6.5?

19.5

[rigid spoke]

i read giants hit you for 40 and my brain melted

[jagged shore]

bro's actually just putting his fingers in his ears going LALALALA

yeah i honestly have no fuckin clue what even point you're trying to make with the 19.5 thing, i just saw you doing math wrong and got annoyed

[fallow valley]

you can't add a 1.5 multiplier unless you switch it to half it's value which in this case is easier done by adding (0.5 + 2)

[rigid spoke]

what does this even mean 🗣️

[jagged shore]

wtaf are you talking about

the work you're showing doesn't make sense

[rigid spoke]

half of 1.5 is 0.75 🗣️

[fallow valley]

We are talking about multipliers and where I got this 32.5 number from

bruh

[rigid spoke]

you can't add a 1.5 multiplier unless you switch it to half it's value which in this case is easier done by adding (0.5 +2)

[fallow valley]

if you multiply base damage (13) with 1 you get 13

[jagged shore]

dear god he understands the concept of multiplying

[rigid spoke]

its amazing

[fallow valley]

if you multiply a crit multi- by 13 you get 19.5

which is half of base damage (13)

[rigid spoke]

you have a very strange way of thinking about x1.5

[fallow valley]

that's because you are multiplying the .5 that is important not the 1

[jagged shore]

you've got me so far

but what number do you multi by to get 32.5

[fallow valley]

It's crazy how you guys don't know how a 1.5 multiplier works

[jagged shore]

the way you're talking about it is actually batshit tho

[fallow valley]

you don't add 1.5 with 2 to get a (3.5) multiplier

[rigid spoke]

you multiply them to get 3 🗣️

[jagged shore]

to get 2.5 it'd be like "+50%, +100%"
but that's not what they do

[hidden ridge]

"New math" from Americans a couple of decades ago started the trend of doing 20x9 as stuff like (20x10)-20 or things along those lines which while correct would have IMHO fucked things up along the way

[jagged shore]

they're not additive

[hidden ridge]

It's just that there's a difference between additive and multiplicative %s

[jagged shore]

you dug your grave with the 2.5 thing fishy
cause that is just objectively incorrect

[hidden ridge]

In videogame you kinda dont know unless the game tells you or you test it

[fallow valley]

You're saying the devs don't add multiplier condition together? They multiply them again?

[jagged shore]

that's what multipliers do, yes

[rigid spoke]

wait till bro hears about the occiput

[jagged shore]

that's where the 2.5 thing came from

[frail heart]

this convo is imploding me

time for e2

[jagged shore]

the numbers would be 0.5 and 1.0 if they were doing additive

[rigid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-confetti-yipee-gif-26461456

[jagged shore]

cause that would make the coding math 10x easier

[rigid spoke]

embed fails only in this channel

[fallow valley]

that's a little confusing since it seemed like you needed to meet certain conditions for the multiplier to work

[rigid spoke]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

aaaaaaaaaaa

im not looking at this ansymore

good night

[fallow valley]

not that they would multiply again after this

[jagged shore]

it's very simple actually

you do 13 damage

[hidden ridge]

Back multiplier is kind of a spectrum if that's what you're asking now, emphasys on the kind of

[jagged shore]

you hit the head, you multiply by 1.5

if you're directly behind the enemy, you get the simple back multi of 2x
so they take the current damage you're now doing and multi by 2

[fallow valley]

so a back headshot would do 39 damage?

[jagged shore]

yes

well more still

[fallow valley]

more?

[jagged shore]

cause you still have PR's precision multiplier

which is 1.3

[fallow valley]

wtf

[jagged shore]

so you multiply 39 by 1.3

[fallow valley]

so 50.7

[jagged shore]

yes, on occi

if they were additive they'd probably be called something like modifiers instead

[fallow valley]

That makes sense I wasn't sure why we were just multiplying over and over again

I thought it was (headshotmtp) + (backshotmtp) = Answer*damage

[jagged shore]

yeah, i figured you out eventually
just, as we said like 5 times, they're multipliers, not additive modifiers :p

[fallow valley]

Yeah that was all me. I was just confused as to the conditions were being multiplied together instead of added

[jagged shore]

but yeah if they were gonna do it like that, the math would be made a lot easier if they were 0.5, 1.0, and 0.3
cause then you add all those together and add 1 at the end
instead as the numbers are, you'd need to subtract 1 from all of them before adding them, then adding 1 back at the end

[fallow valley]

Not necessarily for multipliers of 1.(n) because it's an addition of the decimal to base damage. I can see where this gets confusing when it comes to multipliers of 2

[jagged shore]

in order to add them together code wise, you would have to eliminate the 1 from the mods, otherwise you'd get fairly significantly larger numbers

it'd be fairly simple for a person to do yeah, but code wise, slightly less so

[fallow valley]

how would you know that 1.0 is actually a double modifier unless typed or written out as a 2

[jagged shore]

by writing it as +1.0, or +100%
but in terms of programming the game, you'd want them stored as 0.5 and 1.0 just to avoid needing to do some extra operations

[fallow valley]

You know what?

we should all have a team race as two who can beat R2E1 the fastest

[fallow crystal]

Anyone had their (partial) Audio stop? Noticed the fog turbine made no more sound all of a sudden. Log Playback starts and insta stops. Enemies glow silently.
Is there some sort of fix?
Seems like everything makes a sounds and stops working after that. So I tried using my melee weapon which made some sounds and now is broken too.

[civic wave]

what level are you in?

[fallow crystal]

R4B1

[civic wave]

there's some bugs to do with spitters/generators/respawn coccoons that mess with sound

yeah I think r4b1 could do it, try closing every door between you and where spitters are, and don't open your map with tab, it could crash your game

[fallow crystal]

That sounds like a challenge, I'll try

[eternal terrace]

how are door mines looking in the current game state? are cross mines or mines into door more effective?

[ocean spindle]

i do not quite get ur question but
for blood doors put the mine inside the door on the black bar of the side so it explodes as soon as it opens
and for normal doors put it across the door on the side, lower so it kills crawlin enemies too [for small cubical doors, if they have a wall near them you can also put it with the mine in front facing the door so the laser goes deep into the door instead of the side]

does that respond it

[eternal terrace]

yeah

[ocean spindle]

ok good

[sick hollow]

do glowstricks do literally fucking anything

[sturdy glen]

glow

[ocean spindle]

not alert enemies

so in pitch black darkness with several scouts and or minibosses they, ok

a la r7e1 r8c2 idk

[rare blade]

U can eat them in game to have a glowing status effect u and ur teamates can see with

and plus there funny

[hollow roost]

Yellow one is my favorite

[elder raven]

whats with the infinite drop thought that would have been fixed long ago its been around since the first release

[hidden ridge]

Because it's not really a single glitch? There's some connection failure or something else along the line

Could even be 1 guy with an HDD trying to load it in which slows it for everyone

No idea how slow certain levels would be with an HDD tbh

[hard nexus]

some people practice putting the mine with laser looking directly at the blood door if there is a wall directly across it
see: r6b2 secondary, stuff like that
often times they combine it with a mine inside the blood door
i havent seen that behavior since og r6-r7 release time tho

[hard nexus]

come back when u spawn in hydrostasis instead of a lobby instance and cant do shit

[tardy ingot]

anybody know if there are snatchers in R5D1?

[strange jolt]

none

[fierce walrus]

In optional log room

im pretty sure

or rather after you enter it a snatcher spwns

[strange jolt]

in 73?

[tardy ingot]

"pretty sure"

[fierce walrus]

I think it has one

[strange jolt]

or 77?

[tardy ingot]

need test for gtfo quizshow stuff

anybody able to quickly check?

[fierce walrus]

the one that opens after reactor is done, dont remember numbers

[fierce walrus]

I can test it in like an hour, but i dont think thats exactly „quickly”

[tardy ingot]

hmm

[lone mortar]

ye

rn

or later ?

[strange jolt]

optional log room after reactor

do you mean in secondary?

or the side key room

[fierce walrus]

a locked zone towards the beginning of the level

[tardy ingot]

yes

[strange jolt]

oh that

[tardy ingot]

im working on the quizshow stuff rn

[lone mortar]

ok

[tardy ingot]

and need it for a question that will be in there

[lone mortar]

where to?

[fierce walrus]

”In which levels in ALT R5 are snatchers?”

[strange jolt]

yeah thats 73

[tardy ingot]

😄 youll see

[tardy ingot]

wdym where to?

[lone mortar]

idk you asked for testing

im oblivious to what it is testing for like question generation or rolls

[tardy ingot]

open the security door talked about above

need to know if r5d1 has a snatcher

(maybe test after having done reactor shutdown idk)

[lone mortar]

ok

doin it rn

[strange jolt]

im checking rn too kaiser

cubix is correct it does spawn after you open 73

[fierce walrus]

lets go im not delusional

[tardy ingot]

thx sado

[lone mortar]

yea

it spawns 1

[fierce walrus]

and i get no thanks? Damn

=)

[lone mortar]

stfu

:3

[strange jolt]

you get a kiss

[tardy ingot]

im workin on stuff >.>

[fierce walrus]

no u, you also didnt get any thanks

[lone mortar]

i will hollow knight ur balls

[fierce walrus]

Damn

[tropic vector]

Host has normal BPM/pulse
clients has in battle pulse BPM

any idea?

for fixes?

no enemies found on bio.

[civic wave]

uh my only idea for that was someone was sprinting and didn't know that increased their pulse

[lone mortar]

also could be 1 guy getting stuck and host moving too far from that one guy

i had this happened on late joins

[tropic vector]

nah its the whole of r5c2 after overload. we have this BGM for 40 mins now.
Also there werent any late joins @lone mortar

just a bug ig

[lone mortar]

huh

could be snatcher snatched some1 into bug maybe?

[tropic vector]

oh

that could be

yeah, snatcher got hange for a bit

[lone mortar]

[tropic vector]

weirdly, only host doesnt have the BGM

[lone mortar]

same thing does get it for me on R7D1

if i were to walk far away like 4-5 rooms then it jsut stops lmao

[tropic vector]

thats just rip then

[tropic vector]

LOL, i tested that, apparently for me if im 5 rooms away from host(hange) i get normal stamina, but when i am close again it comes back LOL

[ocean spindle]

in r8c1 overload, if u input the code on the assigned terminal and then confirm immediately, do the rest of the waves of giants/nightmares accumulates or does it just stop

[fierce walrus]

if it works like R7D1 (which i think it does) then they stop

except the extra shadow wave

[native sun]

It eventually stops (I've never done it myself, always full sent), but apparently the waves can take quite a while to end since they get quite backed up.

[ocean spindle]

not the shadows

[native sun]

I have been told that the shadows also stop, but that they can take an extraordinarily long time to do so.

[ocean spindle]

ah u were talking of the others
i asumed at first u just were talking shadows

[coral holly]

Am i able to play the tutorial with friends, or is it only the main expiditions?

[fossil jacinth]

Tutorial is completely solo with a set loadout. Only rundown expeditions can be done with others

[coral holly]

alright thanks

[hard nexus]

ive done duo tutorial

[mental furnace]

The shadow waves do stop after a minute or so, but you don't have to deal with the shadows at all if you wait until after overload to input the command in secondary.

[ocean spindle]

i meant like the actual code run enemies, the giants, the nightmares and whatev else spawns

[mental furnace]

Ah right then

The giants, nightmares, etc should stop spawning pretty quickly, as soon as it gets through the spawn queue

[raven ravine]

Which is considered better between hel gun and hel rifle?

[tardy ingot]

Hel gun
But both are rly rly good. Hel rifle is simpler to use i guess

Pick what you prefer

[ocean spindle]

hel gun and hel rifle are just like revolver and highcal

[raven ravine]

@tardy ingot @ocean spindle thanks

[tardy ingot]

If revolver had 16 dmg

[ocean spindle]

i mean like same concept :b

[magic birch]

may I report somewhere a bug I had ? its visual bug

it's a minor bug that happened once but I wanted to share

[ocean spindle]

was it where u screen has a big black blob over it

or like

something like that

[magic birch]

yeah something like that

when we popped an alarm, I got a black circle on my screen near my gun

[ocean spindle]

its a known bug, caused by a render issues with the effect of the blood
just usually goes away as u- probably saw ksks

[magic birch]

well it disappeared the moment we ended the alarm.
I didn't know it was known, kinda discovered it randomly, won't be surprised next then !

[ocean spindle]

yeah just give it a couple minutes and itll go away

u can press O to see the screen without it

[raven ravine]

What's the field of view that's best for accurate hip fire again?

[unreal gazelle]

hipfire crosshair is only accurate on default fov (55), there is mod to fix it though

[raven ravine]

Thanks

Let's say I leave my fov at around 90. How off would the reticle be?

[frail heart]

you shoot behind you

[raven ravine]

Wat

[frail heart]

idk

but 90 is goated

[raven ravine]

It is indeed

[frail heart]

i can see it affecting guns like scatter tho

i always think i need to be closer

[tardy ingot]

Looks a good chunk bigger than actual spread is

90 is good anyway (100 enjoyer)

[raven ravine]

Hmmm.

So it doesn't really.matter if i use the hel revolver?

[tardy ingot]

generally doesnt rly matter
as frosty said, you may think the hipfire is worse than it actually is

[raven ravine]

Been playing this game for over a year and I still can't settle on a primary.

[ocean spindle]

guys

is there an rng tile on r1d1

[hidden ridge]

Yes

The second zone on the left, room C can spawn differently

Didn't try since before R8 to get both but I remember I had video proof of it spawning differently

It either spawns similar to the second (well, third) room of R1C1's first zone

or in a bit more convoluted way

[ocean spindle]

i just had it

and i was

so confused

why does it have a towe out of a fucking sudden qwq

[minor fractal]

It depends on the targets you're encountering, but they're both very strong.

HEL Gun is stronger for general combat w/ standard enemies or flyers. HEL Rifle excels more if there are lots of giants, chargers, or nightmares.

[raven ravine]

I just said screw it and went back to the combat shotgun.

[minor fractal]

Neither is particularly bad in the opposite scenario, though, because pen is overpowered.

[lone mortar]

helshotgun/combat shotgun

what r u doing

[minor fractal]

CS is quite strong. Very versatile, way too much ammo.

It's a good support pick.

[raven ravine]

Let's just be thankful it has the ammo it has

[lone mortar]

it has x2

very true

[raven ravine]

Could never figure out how to use the helshotgun.

[minor fractal]

When stuff gets close to you, you pen + stagger it and do massive damage.

[raven ravine]

Inb4 someone says left click to shoot 👀

[fallen kite]

Position urself around corners or at the side of doors when you can to catch the wave as it charges through, you’ll be able to get huge pen value like that

Just be carrful abt getting licked or shot around the corner

Esp by hybrids and giants

[soft crater]

They can't lick you around corners unless you're being SniperMelee'd

Projectiles can to a certain degree depending on angle

[lone mortar]

man stfu

nobody mentions sniper mele no mo

except Dak

[soft crater]

It still happens

But it's pretty rare to have it nowadays compared to OG R6

Even if people notice that they were sniper melee'd

The point was. Cutting corners will typically prevent an enemy from licking you

[hidden ridge]

Back in OG R5B2 there was a chance of getting (or not getting I guess) an extra zone in Extreme

I've always wondered what was up with stuff like that, I guess some seeds had something blocking the sec door thus the whole zone didnt spawn? I've no idea.

[turbid horizon]

could've also been geomorph conflicts - idk the layout, but custom geos can fuck up standard geos

was it 157?

I've wanted to recreate this behavior in Occlusion but I wasn't able to

[twilit estuary]

R8A2 seconday code?

[ocean spindle]

dcquy-wi2f1

lot of people asking for it

[twilit estuary]

thanks

[fallen kite]

Idk i’ve had some bizarre shit happen with giant licks

It’s good to be careful either way

[flat cliff]

r1c1 makes me and my group sad :(

we are struggling to get past wave 6

[odd pasture]

many such cases

[digital mural]

what are you struggling with?
not enough resources, enemies going past your defense, etc ?

[odd pasture]

dont defend in reactor room, move up to bridge, 4 burst sentry

[digital mural]

ima pull out the r1c1 copypasta

[flat cliff]

my team gets slammed by the hybrids and bigs

not the copypasta

we are using it :(

[digital mural]

use something like hel rifle

[odd pasture]

hel rifle

[digital mural]

LOL

[flat cliff]

gotcha

[odd pasture]

or sniper and a steady hand

or scattergun

[digital mural]

hel rifle

[flat cliff]

right

[odd pasture]

fuck it, bring all of them if you wish

[flat cliff]

thank ya

[odd pasture]

a hel shotgun or two

[digital mural]

4 slug shotguns

[flat cliff]

jesus

i personally have been using the van auken smg and drekker precision rifle

[frail heart]

Yeah can we get this guy outta here

[digital mural]

:(

you dont love me?

[atomic bison]

i dont know what you mean we are doing perfectly fine

[frail heart]

Ill show you tn

[flat cliff]

clown border

[undone perch]

Shut up we are dying

[atomic bison]

porder

[flat cliff]

but fr, we got 6 total hybrids with 3 bigs it was crazy

along with like no health

[digital mural]

sometimes shooting first can fix the problem

trust

[undone perch]

We had like a max of 8 meds with only one being a 5 use and we had like 7 5 use ammo packs

[digital mural]

tbh at that point just fall back and try to recover ground little by little

[digital mural]

[flat cliff]

fair

[ocean spindle]

if u arent totally focus hybrids with pr, not giants

hit as many headshots on em as u can

cause pr for bigs can be meh :[

[past mesa]

Or just take

BC

And kill the bigs

[ocean spindle]

that too

[dry pumice]

If there's range involved - sniper rifle can still do things.

Popping hybrids like watermelons is the one thing it still excels at. Watch for charging animation, point, click.

[flat cliff]

right

[ocean spindle]

but sniper on that level would be unuseful on the other 6 rounds they dont appear

i would just take a couple heavy guns like hel rifle or whatev

or one burst cannon or again even a pr

[dry pumice]

What level is that agian, R2D2?

I almost botsolo'd it with sniper. It comes in great for quickscoping the 12.000 giants all over the place.

[ocean spindle]

r1c1

[dry pumice]

Ah, even better

[odd pasture]

if issues with hybrids arise, 1 designated hybrid sniper should help

[dry pumice]

Exactly

[odd pasture]

is it the most efficient? no

but it's very simple

[dry pumice]

3 people can hold of the smalls just fine. if its the hybrids that get you - a dedicated sniper man on look out for them will solve that issue.

In fact that's the go-to solution to carry that level without actually carrying it.

You just camp some sniping nest and watch the 3 lads actually play the game. Then you see a spiky watermelon, pop that, and back to sipping coffee.

And ear lord there's so many good sniping spots.

[past mesa]

The go to solution for caring is hel shotgun scatter close hold

or hel shotty hel gun close hold

[tardy ingot]

3 burst and bio*

[craggy pier]

hi guys is hel shotgun good

[turbid horizon]

I swear to god

turned on discord: “oh i wonder what the GTFO server is doing”

[craggy pier]

:3c

[turbid horizon]

fucking hel shotgun

unfortnite

[native sun]

If there aren't enough enemies for HEL shotgun to be the best choice you're just not playing fast enough

[craggy pier]

so true king

[turbid horizon]

Exactly

[craggy pier]

if hel shotgun isnt the best choice im clearly not waking up enough moms

[turbid horizon]

what’s like the max number of mom’s you can realistically get at once?

R6D2 mom zones?

[craggy pier]

your mom, arteks mom, slendis mom, maybe some others

[turbid horizon]

bruh

[main widget]

am I a weirdo for loving sawed off?

[narrow niche]

is hel shotgun good?

[narrow niche]

probably more than that

[crude summit]

how do i create a vs link

vc

i wanna figure out how to matchmake

[ashen frigate]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ashen frigate]

There are instructions up there

[crude summit]

ty

[jaunty tapir]

bat one shot chargers in the back? or two

[fierce walrus]

two

[grizzled patrol]

Full Charge with bat Deals 12 dmg. 2x from the Back Multiplayer Brings it Up to 24, but its Not enough since chargers have 30 hp. You need one more light Attack to the Back to Deal the remaining 6 dmg

[jaunty tapir]

Cool thanks

Is a light attack no charge up?

[fierce walrus]

Yea

[soft crater]

I would still partial charge in the case you don't get full back dmg

[jaunty tapir]

👍

[tardy ingot]

Just tap twice

best play realistically

[soft crater]

Depends what's around ngl

[lone mortar]

Nuh uh

[crude summit]

should i progress the rundowns in order

or does that not matter

[grizzled patrol]

Does it Matter to you?

[lone mortar]

Yes

For the first few

[grizzled patrol]

Play the way you want

[crude summit]

i think i want it to ascend in difficulty

[lone mortar]

R6 is kinda different if youre going for story and other stuff entirely different

But yea its the basic path of clearing all levels of the tier

And move down wards

Rinse and repeat till you get stuck on R2E1

[left wharf]

Should you do the 1 side first and then the X side, or just top down, doing both as you get them?

[grizzled patrol]

Just a small advise: do Not binge the 5th Rundown. Otherwise you will hate it.

[lone mortar]

I recommend the first

Then you do the X levels entirely after D4

[left wharf]

I'm also stuck in between using the spear and the sledgehammer, is there one that's just objectively better for taking out strikers and shooters?

[livid stone]

Nk

[grizzled patrol]

Knife

[livid stone]

None are better

Sledgehammer is just all rounder

[grizzled patrol]

Hammer is an Allrounder, good in every Situation. Spear excells in Giant Killing, but will force you to Play slowly and less efective in Handling against the awakened enemies (especially when its more than 1)

[frail heart]

Spear is for LITTLE PUSSIES and hammer is for massive huge dick chads

[livid stone]

Spear is just as fast tho

[livid stone]

Bro wetted the bed.after seeimg chad spearmen

[frail heart]

Yeah i'd rather not be an oogabooga caveman

[grizzled patrol]

You can Offset the slowness of the spear by Bhopping, but its extra hopps to make it Not suck

[livid stone]

I know u woudnt

[soft crater]

Spear can kill giants more safely than easily imo

[frail heart]

Ya

No one really takes into considerations its damage

[grizzled patrol]

Nuh Uh, bat is more Safe

[frail heart]

I just see spear as hammer but you trade every good stat for range

[soft crater]

If a beginner picking it up knows how to use it that is.

[frail heart]

Even I dont know how to use it properly

But i know its good

[grizzled patrol]

You just smack with half Charge, untill Giant Starts crying over your bullying

Tbh i find it funny how ridiculous its stagger damage is. Theoretically you can kill a Tank with Just 2 bats

[soft crater]

Old stagger hammer could stagger mom

But now

It's a team bats to stagger mom

If you want to be funny. Look at Scalers Knife v pmom clip

[grizzled patrol]

Lmao

[frail heart]

Ive done that before lmao its fun

[tardy ingot]

No

[ocean spindle]

aah times where i said all melees were good in different ways :]

[tardy ingot]

Just do near frame perfect jumps to make it less shit

[tardy ingot]

[lone mortar]

thank god frosty is a spear user

phew

[waxen cipher]

what's r8c2 entail

is it like stupidly hard

[lone mortar]

no

thats D2

[waxen cipher]

oh ok

what about c2

I'm tryna find people and it's not going so well

do i need to bring anything specific

[lone mortar]

good positionings

thats all ill say

[waxen cipher]

that's not specific

[grizzled patrol]

Shaeffer is angy

[waxen cipher]

why he angy

is it the MRI machine

oh shit it's the MRI isn't it

ykw imma go attempt an A level alone

hmm

[ocean spindle]

can u wait till i finish this r4 run maybs i can join :D

[rapid briar]

how does r8c1’s PE work exactly? the terminals at the end, are the enemies endless?

[dry pumice]

Yes and no.

Sometimes it feels like it, but they do stop... Eventually...

[ocean spindle]

so overload its like r7d1, when u put in the command enemies spawn [for the first is bigs, the second is bigs and nightmares and the third includes em all and a tank]
when u confirm and finish the sequence the enemies stop spawning

but if u do secondary, when u finish the sequence shadows will spawn for 2 3 minutes

so for the first sequence u can complete it, wait for the shadows to stop spawnin, and then open every zone

and then for the second and third u can rush em

[rapid briar]

oh ok

[ocean spindle]

i think they did 2 3 minutes of shadowing spawns so it seemed like it went forever but it doesnt

[rapid briar]

I use bio and hel autopistol, what would be a good special to combo with those two for this level specifically?

[rapid briar]

gotcha

[ocean spindle]

autopiss its kinda very flexible with whatever special you want tbh, you could with with whatever, if u wanna take care of the waves a burst cannon could be useful along with someone with a bio to ping shadows in the middle

u dont need a thermal really as long as the person with the bio is communicative

[rapid briar]

gotcha

[ocean spindle]

even when defending

[rapid briar]

so combat shotty would be a good pick for holding off the hordes of shadows?

[ocean spindle]

yes but take into account it might not be as good for the giant and nightmares spawns from the normal waves
if youre the one going for codes u can takee those guns, but if ur gonna stay defending while the others run codes u might want something a bit more powerful

and long range

[rapid briar]

hmmm ok

[ocean spindle]

since the spot u usually hold leaves u a bit of space to aim n stuff

[rapid briar]

revolver perhaps? or hical?

[ocean spindle]

probs highcal, revo requires headshot for smalls which u cant aim at for shadows, and also does nothing to giants and its very eh on nightmares

[rapid briar]

Gotcha

[ocean spindle]

highcal u can use on nightmares, on the tank on the bigs and on the shadows alike

[rapid briar]

rad, I shall use bio autopiss and hical 😎

r8c1 seems like the kind of level where taking giga supply efficiency would be a godsend

[waxen cipher]

oki

[ocean spindle]

tbh u dont really bleed resources a lot on c1

[hidden ridge]

In B4 the 500 "Boosters 😠 cringe 😠"

[ocean spindle]

if u open all zones and note their resources ur fine

as long as u dont wake up the main hub u have enough

[hidden ridge]

But tbh yeah it's easy if the team knows what to do

[ocean spindle]

maybs u can run a lil dry if u dont do the sequences fast but eh

[tardy ingot]

you have enough even with that

[ocean spindle]

its just so hard knowin what to do

[rapid briar]

oh ok

[tardy ingot]

just dont take too long on the actual waves (then slowly kill shadows)

[rapid briar]

I shall put all this into practice when I next run r8c1, thanks folks

[ocean spindle]

yeah usually the way i did it i did first sequence and opened everything, but u could also pray a bit on rng and just do em back to back to back if u feel like u have enough

i just prefer the first i think its a lil more safe

and it also makes u have all the resources at once

[ocean spindle]

oke u ping me when u wanna try runnin it C:

r8c2 my beloved

[tardy ingot]

theres no real reason not to open all 3 after the first code

unless you wanna speedrun and gamble

[waxen cipher]

ok ok

[ocean spindle]

checkpointing i guess if u know all the terminals are in ur same hub zone or something

but thats another thing if u already died or something

[hidden ridge]

The advantages are just too high, since you can clear all the zones before rerolling the terminal

[tardy ingot]

if im not wrong, they are random

[hidden ridge]

Even without counting the resources, or the fact that they could spawn to other directions

[tardy ingot]

as in, repeating also means you dont get the same one

be it a fail

or a checkpoint (afaik)

[rapid briar]

nightmares are tough

I don’t have the muscle memory for fighting them yet and it trips me up lol

[hidden ridge]

They are random in r7d1 so I think they're random in r8c1 too

[tardy ingot]

ye

[tardy ingot]

shoot body

[ocean spindle]

i thought on this kind of sequences when the game loads the game chooses a pool of terminals, i think 3, and it can rotate em if u checkpoint but itll always be those 3

thats at least what ive seen and played

[rapid briar]

yea but u need to aim for the tumors don’t you?

[ocean spindle]

i could be wrong on not being completely rng

[tardy ingot]

it doesnt choose 3

you can keep rolling in a run by failing

thats how it got solod

[tardy ingot]

dont need to

they are just tankier

[rapid briar]

how does it choose then?

[rapid briar]

oh

[tardy ingot]

how? who knows
its like every other rng in this game

it just takes any of the chances afaik every roll

[hidden ridge]

AFAIK picking an actual random number is though

[lone mortar]

haiii beepo

[hidden ridge]

From my super limited understanding of it, a program just checks a specific memory address and pick a value

[hidden ridge]

hi

[lone mortar]

hows you

[hidden ridge]

👍

Thanks for asking

[lone mortar]

always

[rapid briar]

weird

it’s funny how some stuff is seeded and others are just a crapshoot

[tardy ingot]

seeded is pretty rare tbh

most of them are just 1 spawn chance only

[rapid briar]

?

but the scans and enemies are always the same if u reload a checkpoint

I’m confused

[tardy ingot]

oooooh

you mean checkpoints

the stuff that changes does so intentionally (and didnt before) like passwords and uplink codes

[ocean spindle]

usually stuff that is randomized is things that would make u skip sections of the level
as passwords or whatev else

[tardy ingot]

and well alarm spawn directions are rolled every time per spawn

[rapid briar]

oh ok

[plain snow]

so according to the wiki the spear should deal 26.25 dmg to an enemy as long as you hit a weakpoint, that technically means you always have sufficient dmg to kill a scout if you hit him from the back but that is not the case

why is that the case?

[sturdy glen]

back damage does not apply precision multi

[plain snow]

oh it does not?

[sturdy glen]

(back of head does, but not regular back)

[jagged shore]

Yeah back isn't a weak point
It's just like, a flanking bonus

[plain snow]

ah ok I thought it also accounted for precision multiplier bonus

thanks

[soft crater]

Back of head is just (Back multi x Precision multi)

Back multi being 2x for everything except for the knife

[minor fractal]

It is still 2x for knife technically, backstab is separate and you can have one without the other.

[soft crater]

Unfortunate for me when I found out knife only gets that bonus for charged

[lone mortar]

nuh uh

[soft crater]

[lone mortar]

you on right now?

i need some help

[soft crater]

nope.

@work

[lone mortar]

wow

[lunar rain]

so i accidently set all settings to default and now the game looks incredibly dark?

[soft crater]

Old GTFO dark?

Or just like Gamma/brightness 0 type shit

[lunar rain]

Never played it back then

But like it’s just a lot darker than normal

[civic wave]

Tried restarting game? Sometimes the fog/light settings glitch out and do funny things

[jaunty tapir]

Hey whats a darker level. Need to test out some brightness settings cuz my main montitor kinda sucks