gtfo-related-questions

[rapid briar]

this is way funnier than I think it was intended to be LOL

[ocean spindle]

still same thing

[sturdy glen]

no I think vox knows exactly what theyre saying

[rapid briar]

the mission I’m stuck on is r4d2 pe but I’ve been doing r6 instead lately

I’ve only given r4d2 like, one serious attempt though

why do you ask

[upper ginkgo]

i haven't heard you ask about level strats in a while

[hidden ridge]

What's Voxy's current alignment?

[upper ginkgo]

square

[quartz prairie]

fuck you circles are better

[rapid briar]

yeah I just haven’t been playing 😔

[upper ginkgo]

maybe it's better that way..

[rapid briar]

honestly fair

[frail heart]

Im boutta quit

[rapid briar]

hi boutta quit, I’m dad

[frail heart]

Go back to fortnite

after 3 years

[quartz prairie]

don't

[rapid briar]

fortnite blows ass

why would you do that

[frail heart]

i havent played in a long time

[upper ginkgo]

fortnite actually gets meaningful updates

[quartz prairie]

No

[rapid briar]

raah

[unique briar]

[rapid briar]

raah

@upper ginkgo if you want me to ask about level strategies, tell me what guns I should bring to r6d1

👽

[upper ginkgo]

i don't care, leave me alone

[rapid briar]

LOL

[quartz prairie]

what did you do this time Jelly

[rapid briar]

that just makes me want to poke you more

[rapid briar]

nothing I’m just being an ass

[quartz prairie]

so the usual

[rapid briar]

yessir

[civic wave]

probably depends how exactly you play the level, reccs might change

but just take whatever

nobody gives a fuck

[rapid briar]

all I know is that it’s the one with the big boss fight

[ocean spindle]

probs one sniper, or if u dont want that a couple of long ranges like hel rifle and/or prec rifle

thats it

[quartz prairie]

slendiii

[past mesa]

If this isn’t “continue to talk” to me idk what is

[rapid briar]

fr

[ocean spindle]

slendo

[rapid briar]

[tardy ingot]

wouldnt rly recommend that

reactors are all about killing asap
and r2d2 is a great stage for pen. Hel revo and hel gun/rifle is very strong
less aim focused would be carbine to spam down stuff that gets closeish while still being good mid range and somewhat long range

[rapid briar]

lots of hybrids on that stage

[teal plank]

wait, does smacking the floor near a giant not wake it instantly?

There was a range where it just made it pulse a couple times but not wake

[rapid briar]

it usually does yes

don’t do that

[ocean spindle]

same as hackin u need to be close

if ur on the edge itll pulse

and if ur far away wont do nothin

[teal plank]

I didn't know that about the edge

I knew it was deceptively small for the wakeup but I smacked the ground and saw it pulse so got confused

Since tbf you can just shove giants

didn't know if it was something like that with different effects between large and small enemies

[tardy ingot]

there is a range yep

cough there definetly isnt a guide about it cough

[teal plank]

Tbf I didn't see information about that on your stealth guide
but that's probably me missing it

[tardy ingot]

but ye hacklocks have the same thing

btw that range cant wake them up with it

it will just keep them throbbin

[teal plank]

Interesting, is it just visual? or is it actual pulsing

like if you smack the ground and then move

[tardy ingot]

[teal plank]

I believe it is entirely visual

[rapid briar]

you can shove giants??

[tardy ingot]

yesnt

it doesnt do anything

[sturdy glen]

You can shove every large enemy and it won't wake up ye

[rapid briar]

wtf I had no idea

[teal plank]

Yep

[rapid briar]

that’s honestly hilarious

[teal plank]

it makes my teammates super stressed lmao

[rapid briar]

I am going to shove a mother the next time I see one

[jagged shore]

does anyone know how respawn rooms interact with the ping every enemy achievement?

i assume you need to kill the respawned
just, checking

[tardy ingot]

i dont think it rly works

you most probably would have to wake up every single one and not kill them

[rapid briar]

we managed to get that in a super buggy way

[ocean spindle]

what level are u tryin to do to get the achievement

[rapid briar]

we reset from a checkpoint and then just got it

which was kinda funny

[jagged shore]

i'm not, was just idly thinking about it and wondered if anyone knew

[hardy grotto]

it’d be so tedious

wake up room and ping all to get past and then kill them all

And then for extract you have to wake it up again and ping them all and keep them alive

[soft crater]

I was looking at the datablocks awhile back. Iirc. There's a part that specifies if said enemy can or can not be shove staggered

Giants in this case. Was set to false.

[strange jolt]

ig its specifically for not shoving awake giants

[rapid briar]

guys what do the corrupted scans in r8d1 do

[civic furnace]

summons a pmom

[digital mural]

it spawns a tank

[rapid briar]

ty i'm watching a vid and it's not explained

[lunar rain]

Really?

[civic wave]

yes

[frail heart]

spawns 6 pablos iirc

not sure tho dont play mario kart

[livid stone]

[worn crow]

Should be able to counter that with a blue shell since they're always in first place

[frail heart]

Dont speak to me unless you have 9k+ VR

[dry pumice]

Virtual Reality?...

[hard nexus]

vr6 6-cylinder engine for golf

some low ballers try to pitch it for less than 9k

[indigo herald]

what does ALT mean? For example "ALT R4B3", is this like a modded generated map or something else?

[civic wave]

ALT rundowns are remastered/re-added rundowns from previous versions of the game that were removed

so after R7 they started bringing the old levels back into the current version of the game as alt rundowns

[fierce walrus]

So, before the release of R7, only one rundown was available at a time. So after R7 they brought back the old rundowns as ALTs, which are their remasterss

[civic wave]

then after all the alt rundowns were done, they moved onto r8

[indigo herald]

so the ALT Rundowns are officially in the current version of the game now? is it the the level that have the "X" in their name like "R6BX"? Because if they are officially on the current version of the game then I don't think I have played them yet. I just wanted to know because in my experience if you don't have enough knowledge about this game you get f a lot of times haha, and also thank you for answering.

[dry pumice]

Yes, all levels you see in game are official.

Alts are slightly different from originals for deepest lore reasons.

X levels used to be "eXtensions" of original Rundowns.

Just... Just don't worry about it.

[ocean spindle]

they were levels that premiered after r6 came out

why they named x? cause funny

[fierce walrus]

Basically - any level that you see in the game when you launch it vanilla is fully official, and fine to play on this server

[pulsar herald]

"Slightly"... funny

[merry lava]

109775242252096825

[unique verge]

im new

whats the best way to learn the game

[dry pumice]

Late answer but generally just... Playing and getting first hand experience.

[unique verge]

oki thanks

[dry pumice]

Do the TUTORIAL mission first to get down the basics of basics then drop into R1A1 and try beating that.

It needs to be reminded that playing with bots is basically a different game from playing with actual people.

[ocean spindle]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[dry pumice]

He's russian, I don't think he understands

[ocean spindle]

ah

[raven ravine]

is there maintenance or something right now cause the game isn't loading properly and have server sync issues

[ocean spindle]

maintenance its on tuesday

it may be ur internet connection

[timber zodiac]

I'm getting it too

No issue on my connection

[raven ravine]

me and my partner are having the same issue. he lives in a different country lol

[timber zodiac]

Same for my whole squad (all from different EU countries)

[dry pumice]

Its middle of the week, steam restarts their servers for maintancne at this time usually

Actually that should've been yesterday...

[timber zodiac]

No they don't

[raven ravine]

verifying file integrity didn't fix it. RIP.

[timber zodiac]

Nah I think it's an actual server side issue

[vital swallow]

Same here

[elder roost]

[dark siren]

I think the servers are down

[fierce walrus]

prolly some sorta server mainetnance if i had to guess, they might make an annoucment in a bit

[raven ravine]

they should give us a free cosmetic piece for the inconvenience, I'm thinking the double prosthetic leg one 😜

[vital swallow]

I got that one

[raven ravine]

my envy burns brighter than 1000 suns.

[vital swallow]

With a name like that I'm surprised that's all you asked for

[raven ravine]

figured it'd be a bit too much to ask for a prosthetic prolapse.

[vital swallow]

Dont let your dreams be dreams

[soft crater]

[vital swallow]

[sturdy glen]

Playfab is having issues i think

[timber zodiac]

Status page says partial outage at this time

Think you might be right there

[lilac fulcrum]

There's an outage with upstream provider Playfab, #game-announcements

[fierce walrus]

we got dog, its all worth it

[past lagoon]

😦

[rare blade]

Dog solos

[minor fractal]

Can you tell us more about these solos?

[ocean spindle]

nom nom

solo

[hardy grotto]

these solos...

[frail heart]

[peak geode]

Is the server issue still ongoing?

[fierce walrus]

It got resolved yesterday

so unless there is another, it should be fine

[peak geode]

There is 😭

It's all good

Yeah, it's still pretty spotty in E Europe

[tawny condor]

so what would people say is the best turret?

[civic wave]

burst is the all round best

sniper may be better in specific circumstances

[tawny condor]

So not HEL?

[civic wave]

shotgun and auto sentry are pretty much never the choice over burst sentry

nah auto sentry is kinda awful

[tawny condor]

That explains things...

[lilac fulcrum]

We're not seeing any of our alerting reporting any issues. Could be an isolated issue such as with your ISP. But I'll keep an eye out if others also report issues.

[fading root]

for the difficulty tiers for teammate matchmaking, is A-B the hardest or easiest? I guessed hardest, but they're the default. I'm pretty new, just got the game yesterday

[digital mural]

A-B are the easiest

[fading root]

okay

[dry pumice]

A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard

While there is a tendency that higher number levels (like C3) are usually harder than their lower counter parts - it is not always the case.
They are usually differentiated by throwing in new mechanics to keep track of (i.e.: fog), or doing something unorthodox that changes how you play the game compared to most conventional levels.

[light crag]

yo guys
is it my videocard or its the gameplay feature?
this camera distootion just popups in a random moment only in gtfo
ive never heard of this thing on the internet...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471647788757811200/1220846021463248906/image.png?ex=66106c75&is=65fdf775&hm=9333306b04264d6747d433e77df79dedb9a9514f5ba6ff5279baa494249522dd&

[dry pumice]

Fairly certain that's a GTFO thing. It happens when you get blood splattered on your game camera, but something fucks up in the process of rendering it so it becomes all crazy like this. More often people just get a giant black hole forming on their screen.

[light crag]

thank you very much!!!!

[civic wave]

^^ it is a very well known bug

some people experience it a lot, others experience it rarely (if at all)

[light crag]

it happend with me a lot

like every fifth level

[peak geode]

It was ok in the end. Sorry for the late update

[dry pumice]

I think i only got the bug like 2 times. From the times i remember that is... There was at least 1 proper black hole and then there was a "dead pixel" that appeared next to my aim reticule and never went away until i restarted the game.

[whole stirrup]

There isn't a way to check what you need for achievements? like a mod or something that checks for missing variables?

[digital mural]

wdym?

[whole stirrup]

Trying to work out which PE I don't have credit for - as I did them all

But I don't have the achievement

[dry pumice]

There is a site for logs, but not one for PEs...

Hey @lilac fulcrum is it possible to check what PE that man's missing for the achiev?

[whole stirrup]

If it's Sublimation I might just not do it

[digital mural]

man has big trauma

😔

[civic wave]

you can load into every rundown to check your level completions

[whole stirrup]

Hmm loader says:
Achievement Completed | LOCAL: ACH_52
Error: MTFO] Achievement Completion Blocked: ACH_52

They are all completed per the ingame list

[civic wave]

optionals were only added in r4 so you just look at r4, r5, r6, r7, r8

[whole stirrup]

ACH_52 is the PE achievement

[civic wave]

how far through R8 are you?

[whole stirrup]

r8e2 left

[civic wave]

hm so you have done r8c1 PE then

[whole stirrup]

only mission I haven't done in the game on max possible

Ya

[civic wave]

what's the name of the achievement?

[whole stirrup]

Ultimate Efficiency

[lilac fulcrum]

we don't have anything like that.

[dry pumice]

Not even manually?

I mean like... In theory. Load up some prefab database, check some columns fos a missing [ ]

[lilac fulcrum]

start game, go to every rundown, look at rundown. that's the extent of the same data we have for this ach

[civic wave]

and just to confirm, you've manually looked through all the levels that have PE to make sure you've completed them?

I can try list them all off the top of my head but

[lilac fulcrum]

me manually would be looking up the player, checking the database, decrypting the data, then looking at the counts for how many completions for each level and which tiers are completed. something that would take me far more time and effort than just clicking each rundown and looking at completions

[civic wave]

R4 - A2 A3 B2 B3 C2 C3 D2
R5 - A2 A3 B1 B2 C2
R6 - C3 D3
R7 - B3 C2 C3
R8 - C1

I think that's all the PE missions in the game but I could've forgotten one or two

[dry pumice]

Right. And what if it says he's beaten everything on his rundown screen?

[whole stirrup]

Ya I have full credit on the right side and matching number of 1,1,1,1's

It seems to be R6 related for me

[dry pumice]

Oh is it

[whole stirrup]

I didn't get the error until r6

well going through them

[dry pumice]

What error

[civic wave]

probably an error posted into a log

[whole stirrup]

Bepinex gives me an error

[lilac fulcrum]

...
do you use mods?

[whole stirrup]

Achievement completion blocked

Currently I just have the loader and modlist

[civic wave]

launch the game in vanilla and see maybe

[lilac fulcrum]

have you tried removing mtfo...

[dry pumice]

Delete mods / bepenix and redo R6 PEs

[lilac fulcrum]

cause mtfo blocks ach

[civic wave]

ah yeah if you have MTFO on that could be doing funny things

[whole stirrup]

I didn't use any mods til basically my last ~1-2 levels to finish

I think that probably narrows it down tho

[dry pumice]

Yeah, try going full clear game and redoing R6

[whole stirrup]

I'll redo R6D3 PE and see if it fixes it

[lilac fulcrum]

shouldn't even need to do a new pe if i am recalling that ach correctly. most of the completion ones (like that) are just based on if you have it completed, not based on getting a new completion

[whole stirrup]

I've loaded the game up since without mods tho pretty sure but I can try again

[lilac fulcrum]

then maybe that's the one that is something like getting a new PE.

[whole stirrup]

I can try just redoing that one

[lilac fulcrum]

i don't recall the specific condtions based on the ID 52

[whole stirrup]

Ya just loading in didn't fix it but I'll try re-completing it. Thanks!

You guys got any plans to add a way to earn the rest of the cosmetics? Missing palettes is rough

[dry pumice]

Calle said nothing in the plans, so most likely not.

[lilac fulcrum]

Achieve Prisoner Efficiency in all expeditions that have Secondary and Overload Sectors
oh.. that shouldn't require a new completion. when you start the game, we get all the completion info, then we check if the requirements for the ach are satisified. so just having all PE's done would then mark it complete. or it would also check again on next PE completion.

[whole stirrup]

hmm so I just need to finish any pe

[lilac fulcrum]

no..

[whole stirrup]

Well it's not seeming to give me credit just loading in no mods

[lilac fulcrum]

if you have all PE's completed, then starting the game would check if the requirements satisifed and would award

but say you are missing a PE, the startup check would fail, but then once you complete the PE it would mark completed.

So either you're missing a PE, or something could still be blocking it from awarding (like mods). If no mods are loading/activating. then i have no clue. would need more info to try and debug. You can check your game log file and see if anything is mentioned there.

this is the first time i'm hearing that this ach is not working, so i'm doubting that there is anything broken, as we'd usually hear of other people also reporting the issue, especially this far beyond R8's release.

[whole stirrup]

Makes sense - I'm going to try to redo my 1 completion R6 PE no mods and see what happens, thanks for all the help

[trim rock]

Why would you be running MTFO anyway

[arctic marten]

to mod the game

[pseudo coyote]

a lot of non-datablock editting mods (aka non-cosmetic or stat changing) dont use mtfo so even with modding u dont necessarily need it

[trim rock]

Highly doubt anyone running /normal/ mods will have any use for MTFO as a dependency

[pseudo coyote]

cosmetic will - like people running axe instead of hammer

[arctic marten]

its for the mods

[trim rock]

Unless you are directly modifying weapon stats you won’t need mtfo even for cosmetic changes

In which case achievements should be disabled as intended

[whole stirrup]

Redoing it without mods gave me the credit - So I guess it was blocking something. Thanks again

[arctic marten]

why thats not fair

[trim rock]

I don't think you understand what I mean

You can run any "quality of life" mod without ever installing mtfo

[arctic marten]

im run the "big sleepers mod" because i am hard of sight

but no achievement??

it is not fair

[pseudo coyote]

I swear u need mtfo to load datablocks for cosmetic changes 😐 - unless your running some homebrew version

[cold quarry]

The PE one is different I think. I don't have the PE achievement cause I haven't done one since r8 came out

[jagged shore]

check out the code for maul and probably makesnipergreatagain

[pseudo coyote]

I consider that running homebrew 😉

[jagged shore]

fair lol

[whole stirrup]

I just use mods cause I want cosmetics I didn't get and I only have 1 more coming

[pseudo coyote]

cause im aware u can change stats + cosmetic parts directly in code without mtfo => just the majority do use MTFO

[jagged shore]

honestly yeah
i wish they made it so if you completely every sector + every PE you'd get all missing cosmetics
how many extras even are there

[whole stirrup]

I stopped counting when it was clear it was over 10

not including all the ones you can't get anymore

[jagged shore]

hmm
i wonder what the exact number of extras is (not counting time barred ones)
cause i'm kinda hoping it'd be a perfect enough number that they could hotfix in PE completions giving cosmetics too
but i doubt that'd happen 😭

also i doubt that'd be able to apply retroactively, but idk

[pseudo coyote]

if the playfab cosmetics work by hving the game create a request to the give the player an item, you could make a mod to trigger the function for missing items

• i doubt this is how its actually done
• if this is the case then they probably dont want u doing this anyway so dont lol

[past mesa]

it is

end skill did it this way

has like 100 chest peices

[soft crater]

Me when DarkEmperors OldMusic mod uses MTFO

[ruby bane]

Crazy

[steady moon]

so saying I do every mission in the game, will I get every available cosmetic?

[whole stirrup]

no

Outside the limited time ones you can't get anymore, you'll be missing some of the random ones

[steady moon]

i want santonian vestis

so where does that put me

[whole stirrup]

🙏

[steady moon]

fuck

[whole stirrup]

RNGSUS pls

[steady moon]

thats aids

i have all the stuff i want except that yellow color

[whole stirrup]

I have 1 unlock left to get and don't have the black Hackett mask and probably some palettes I want :9

[steady moon]

i see

thats aids

[civic wave]

something something sucks to be you something something there's a mod that lets you select any cosmetic regardless of unlock status

[whole stirrup]

[soft crater]

Mammoth darkeye hoodie fire

[whole stirrup]

At least the R3 completion one is nice

[soft crater]

Indeed there is. I use it currently since I have no more unlocks for the 1 or 2 pieces I don't have

[digital mural]

if i dont get hackett's hoodie im going to commit mass genocide

[pseudo coyote]

1. create second steam account
2. share games with second steam account (family mode or whatever)
3. unlock more cosmetics on second account
4. pray

[soft crater]

[soft crater]

See first account start playing games and find out the password and email changed

[whole stirrup]

[digital mural]

[whole stirrup]

The things we do for Hackett Hoodie

[pseudo coyote]

every gacha gamer feels u rn

[digital mural]

ewwww gacha

[soft crater]

When f2p game but person has all the drip

(Games where spending money just gives cosmetics)

[digital mural]

that is fine

[whole stirrup]

Imagine not getting the gold deagle skin and the cool dawg glasses cause you rolled trashbag armor and box hat

[soft crater]

Do they know?

[soft crater]

(For reference. There is a recent mod that allows you to color your weapons so to speak. I haven't used it myself yet. I only just saw it last night browsing the new/updated mods)

[whole stirrup]

My meme's have hidden meanings

Good to know but Black is >

[steady moon]

yea but then no reward for playing

[civic wave]

the reward should be the experience and improvement (and completion number), not the cosmetic

cosmetics did not exist for half the games life

[digital mural]

the feeling of completing a really hard expedition is the real reward

[steady moon]

i just want santonian vestis white and yellow

[digital mural]

and its worth it

every
single
time

[civic wave]

words spoken by someone who has never played in a bad pub

[digital mural]

erm

looks at my R8 pubs

:)

[frail heart]

I fought through hell and back doing r8 pubs

1 whole week on e2

[turbid horizon]

you need MTFO for a decent amount of QoL mods - combat music changes, cosmetic changes, etc.

but yeah you can just disable achievements, because running modded will usually bug achievements

unless you launch the vanilla rundowns

👍

[soft crater]

Mtfo moment

[soft crater]

Most of the used QoL mods aren't even under MTFO ngl.

DarkEmp.'s recent music one tho yeah does need mtfo

[turbid horizon]

Yeah, some do tho

[signal flume]

What do those do

[tribal tusk]

What would everyone say are the best mods to run for the game?

[tardy ingot]

none

uh i mean if you rly wanna run mods that arent changing anything in a negative way

theres stuff that turns off the sounds of cocoons/spitters, shooterbugfix and co

[tribal tusk]

I’ve seen Resource Helper and that seems super helpful

[signal flume]

Shooterbugfix???

[fierce walrus]

what does res helper do again?

[austere bronze]

Anyone know the specific numbers for r2e1 error ramp?

i heard it was 4 per 30s +1 every 4mins

[lone mortar]

quick question

is there disinfect station on R5B1?

[lone mortar]

a mod to kill eva

i will pay 3k for that

[ocean spindle]

isnt that the one to mix resource packs into bigger uses?
cause if so thats prohibited here
same with the one to get resources back into lockers and boxes

[digital mural]

nope

it marks the resources once you find them

making easier to back track and finding them

[ocean spindle]

ah the lil icon mod

[digital mural]

resources and items

[ocean spindle]

then its fine i guess, no yeah that seems good

[digital mural]

@fierce walrus

you really need this man

[ocean spindle]

cube grabin a 2 use lock melter instead of the cfoam mine for the pmom

[digital mural]

he does that

😔

[ocean spindle]

smh

its obvious glowies r the best option there

[digital mural]

[ocean spindle]

om nom

also pat pable

sorry for bein in a bad mood yesterday

think im a lil stressed, the pc its still functional enough but laggy

[digital mural]

lol
its fine

i would react the same way if my 20k boy started dying

😔

[ocean spindle]

... well this ones not 20k but ksmdkm

thenk chu

[digital mural]

[ocean spindle]

:3

[frail heart]

Honestly if you want to learn the game dont use any mods. Even mods that just seem like tiny QOL mods can impact the way you learn the game.

[native sun]

Yeah, learn the game like a true chad with the inaccurate vanilla crosshair sizes! Yeah! Stick it to the man!

[frail heart]

I guess its just personal preference 🤷‍♂️

Should've phrased it differently

[tardy ingot]

thats another mod that definetly fits in with the „fixing game issues“ part personally

[frail heart]

Ya

[latent obsidian]

which crosshairs are inaccurate?

[fierce walrus]

The fuck do you mean, i dont lose track of where res is

[fierce walrus]

Thats 100% smth i would do or have previously done

Lock melter supremacy

[digital mural]

ok sure

want me to pull footage out?

[fierce walrus]

yes

i actually dont remember

losing track of res

[digital mural]

you did

on our scuffed R7E1 run

[fierce walrus]

oh

perhaps

also i wanna see your POV of the R7D2 tank melee death

[ocean spindle]

when u change ur fov crosshairs don't scale with it

[latent obsidian]

I'd best change it back to default then

[digital mural]

check media chat

[fierce walrus]

Lmao, 60 hp to 0, i love burst cannon

also

[tardy ingot]

gotta think of it like that, it looks bigger than it actually is with higher fov

[fierce walrus]

the fucks that ugly modding shit you got alex

[digital mural]

the health bar?

too lazy to remove it

[fierce walrus]

yea

[fierce walrus]

skill issue

[fierce walrus]

just turn off the crosshair completely and aim like that

[digital mural]

=)

[steady moon]

is GTFOs achievements broken?

[civic wave]

Last I heard they were all working

[digital mural]

no

for now

[steady moon]

i unmodded and have been playing the base game and it wont give me achievements

[civic wave]

Which achievements?

Some of them are a bit jank and require a full team or slightly different requirements to what the achievement text actually reads

Refer to the wiki for more info on that

[steady moon]

r7 absolute, contact, additional duty

theres more

[lilac fulcrum]

all achievements are fully working as far as we're aware. likely either a local issue such as some remenants of modded still running and blocking the achievements from being completed, or you're not satisfying the requirements to unlock the achievements.

[steady moon]

ohhhh thanks

[lilac fulcrum]

Contact
Complete all Main Sectors in ALT://R4
So you need to have completed all expeditions in ALT R4 at least once. Completions prior to R8's release count, but only if you have ALT R4 completions, OG R4 from like 4 years ago don't count as ALT is different. So if you click ALT R4 from the rundown screen, you should see all of them compelted at least once.

if you want to show a screenshot of the expedition selection screen of R4 I can take a look.

[torn slate]

which machine gun is better, arbalist or veruta

[past mesa]

hel rilfe

[torn slate]

lol

[past mesa]

the faster shooting one tho

[torn slate]

gotcha

[long ginkgo]

How doable is fighting the infection in r6-d1?

[frail heart]

As in reactor skip? Very viable

[lone mortar]

pablo is sad that you skipped brazil

he wanted to show you a tour of the meteor

[soft crater]

Just skip the purchase button of GTFO*

GTFO skip

[lone mortar]

nah

id skip work if i were u

[soft crater]

Stop skipping the promotion and raise

[hard nexus]

Both mid, hel rifle was the correct answer

[ocean spindle]

veruta is real good in my opinion

[frail heart]

i prefer sniper for wave clear

[hard nexus]

Equipped on bots sure

Never actually tried either machine gun until recently and holy shit I didn't miss anything

[tardy ingot]

very good for R3D1 can confirm

[frail heart]

melee is better

specifically bat

[ocean spindle]

well if u didn't missed anything u should've seen how it just destroys a big wave of enemies with a single mag

lol

[sturdy glen]

facts

[minor fractal]

I do think that Veruta is a lot better than Arbalist, and I'm not sure why.

Both bad, tho.

[hard nexus]

rof

[tribal tusk]

question: R2D2, are there only 2 scouts in the 195 zone in the front and then 2 in the back room?

[wind tartan]

Do bots affect the Into the Shadows achievement since they turn on their flashlight?

[ocean spindle]

yes

[ocean spindle]

is it that the super smol zone with the 5 scouts? i believe its rng their distribution between rooms

u could get 2 in one 3 on other etc etc

[chilly steppe]

bought gtfo today where do i begin

[bitter gazelle]

tutorial

[chilly steppe]

ive done that

[bitter gazelle]

add me to play

[peak geode]

You can pick whatever rundown you wanna do. Recommend the #lfg channel for whatever region you play in to find more people, since bots can be goofy

[strange jolt]

tbf people are also goofy

[lone mortar]

i need pepsi

not coca cola

[fierce walrus]

i need coke… wait not that kinda co-

[rare blade]

After tutorial go to R1A1 and just go down from there in order. It’s not necessarily required you have to play in order but you pick up and learn the game better because if you jump around your just gonna see enemies you’ve never seen before pop out of nowhere rather than be introduced like tanks. Also go to lfg beginners and #how-to-matchmake

Highly recommended especially since it a newer player you have a full team for every level

Once you get a handle of the game you can steam roll levels with just some bots

[chilly steppe]

i tried a couple hours ago and was lucky to get another two people

[rare blade]

This server isn’t the most active thing in the world but there’s a lot of ppl here willing to help and join beginners

[chilly steppe]

okie dokie

thank you :)

[rare blade]

Also experiment with weapons and different tools early on so you get a feel to them, some weapons def require practice

[chilly steppe]

makes sense

[torn slate]

does your healthbar being yellow after sprinting for too long do anything or is it just a warning that you have almost no stamina left

[digital mural]

just a warning

[torn slate]

thanks

[digital mural]

but at that point you are basically out of stamina
so is better to just walk

[torn slate]

understood

[peak geode]

What timezone do you play in usually?

[chilly steppe]

GMT+11

[slow stone]

dont you take more dmg

[fierce walrus]

nope

stamina only makes you run slower

it doesnt affect hp

or damage taken

[slow stone]

fair enough

[digital mural]

i think it makes your melees slower

too

[tardy ingot]

melee charges slower yes

[hard nexus]

Bro when stamina got introduced the rumor about taking more damage got pushed by everyone and their brother

Idk who started it it was like a rule of thumb immediately

Prob vets spreading misinfo for fun at the time

[peak geode]

Uf, I am GMT+2

Would've been happy to help out a newbie, but I a doubt we will really get a chance

[chilly steppe]

its ok

[rare blade]

It’s an Easter egg that if you run long enough with no stamina ur heart implodes and u just die

[tardy ingot]

vets pushing missinfo for fun wasnt even remotely as much a thing back then

people generally just knew less about the game

and someone saying smth makes other people believe it without testing during og R6

[rare blade]

Misinformation?

I don’t see any misinformation

Source-totallytrustworthy.com

Btw what does it mean ur a creator program member @tardy ingot ?

[plain raft]

Wait so no stamina doesn’t reduce max health?

[turbid horizon]

Eh it definitely was

[digital mural]

no

it doesnt

[plain raft]

Seems I’ve lost the spreading misinformation competition

[plain raft]

So it’s just infection then
Got it

[tardy ingot]

well what is says im in their creator program

[rare blade]

u gotta buy the battle pass fr

[rare blade]

what that mean

[tardy ingot]

it was much less a thing. It picked up a lot during ALT Rundowns imo

[turbid horizon]

yeah ig

[plain raft]

Nah it’s in the deluxe preorder edition

[tardy ingot]

i create content (twitch/videos) for the game and am part of a program they created

[rare blade]

oh, I had no idea what particually program it meant fr

[tawny condor]

When would I no longer be considered a beginner for the use of the beginner matchmaking area?

[tardy ingot]

whenever you want

people dont rly care about newer players joining in lfgs (at least as long as you dont join missions way out of your reach (aka joining R2E1 when you are just clearing R2B1 etc)

[tawny condor]

Lol, I'm not dreaming of instantly going to the D's or lower rn. But yeah, thanks for the advice

[tardy ingot]

the advantage of beginner lfgs (should be) is that you dont get very experienced players who just carry you through

[soft crater]

[scenic widget]

im new how come i cant join other lobbies? am i doing somethign wrong?

i copy the id then go into the game but theres no join with ID or if i go to a mission that the person is in and try to press join lobby it just exits out

[rare blade]

ruffly, the caps at 50 hours, by then u can at least say ur an interimate player not a beginner fr, u should know mostly everything and can beat an easy A level with bots and jsut u

more like 35-50 hour to be in a range due to how certain ppl pick up

even though some ppl can be better at games than ppl playing all day in just 20, depends on the person really, and the word "beginner" is subjective anyways

[rare blade]

if u haven't compelted the tutorial do that

but besides that

1: u cant have ur own lobby if ur trying to join someone elses

2: sometimes the games buggy, leave the game and come back

3: the code could have possibly changed due to certain circumstances

4: lobbies full

[dry pumice]

Sounds like connection issue to me.
The ideal scenario should be:

1. You copy the LOBBY ID
2. In the main menu a red JOIN PLAYER button should appear
3. You join the lobby upon clicking it

If the button doesn't appear or fails to do anything - either you're experiencing connection issues, or something is wrong with the lobby (it died / got disbanded / its already full)

[rare blade]

that to fr

[rare blade]

Good joke

[ocean spindle]

that's why i always recommend askin specifically to not get carried

[hidden ridge]

I mean at a certain point it's a bit useless to assume that you aren't going to get a vet or two

And it's not like it takes 1000 hours to be able to carry someone through r1, hours played is a shit metric anyway

I just join and ask if they're fine with experienced players and they nearly always say yes

[ocean spindle]

u could carry a newbie on idk r1a1 with like 200 hours if u know what ur doin and r active searchin knowledge hours r whatev

but well playin with a pro and being carried are two different things

[narrow niche]

200 is a bit extreme

Even without ammo teammates still attract enemies so like

Makes it so much easier than solo

[narrow niche]

Not that I would ever do that to my teammates

[strange jolt]

too bad then

[lone mortar]

Gibe now

Need pepsi

[strange jolt]

ill give you a kiss instead

[lone mortar]

What kind

[narrow niche]

Real????

[strange jolt]

no i lied

[narrow niche]

</3

[raven ravine]

Am I correct in assuming optional mission objectives do not reward you with anything?

I.e. cosmetic rewards?

[whole stirrup]

They don’t give more cosmetics no

[raven ravine]

Thanks.

[whole stirrup]

They probably should though since you can’t earn all the random ones

[raven ravine]

Would be nice.

[long ginkgo]

Is there any tips for the reactor skip on r6-d1

Me and my group fucking suck 😭

[tough lichen]

isn't it better to just do reactor on r6d1 otherwise u will just be doing the rest of the map in darkness and fog

[strange jolt]

its better unless youre used to the path

reactor skip has set scans after all

[long ginkgo]

We we tried that and he does not seem to make much of a difference if you are fighting in the gas or not

[strange jolt]

ig if you do it fast enough then the infection decay is negligible if your bio guy is pinging enemies efficiently

i still wouldnt recommend it if its your first clear tho

[long ginkgo]

We have spent about 6-7 hours failing

We keep wiping on the last scan

[strange jolt]

how do you usually set up for it?

[long ginkgo]

2 foam 1 burst and 1 bio

And just foam the shit out of the basement

And leave the turret for the past and first scan

[strange jolt]

hmm

with that strat it seems like you guys are getting overwhelmed by the enemies stacking on the foam once youre coming back up on the 5th and 6th scans on the middle floor

still, i feel like it shouldnt be a problem as long as enemies are getting killed by the team

even without sentries

it might be difficulty clearing shooters and other enemies in the fog

[long ginkgo]

One guy keeps dying right before the final purple scan then we get fucked

[strange jolt]

purple scan is at a fairly safe spot though and should be easy to defend

since they can only come up from the staircase

ig you can try bringing heavy waveclear weapons like hel shotgun

[long ginkgo]

Idk I think we just suck we are now trying to get shit from reactor and do it like that

I run helshotgun

[strange jolt]

i would also recommend just bringing 3 burst sentries too

you can leave all three of them in the middle floor

or bring one or two with you as youre moving down

[long ginkgo]

We tried that

[strange jolt]

well at least reactor skip is fairly quick to reset from xd

[strange jolt]

how did it go?

[sturdy glen]

is your bio player doing a good job

[strange jolt]

replace the guy dying with bishop

real af

[long ginkgo]

I think I am playing bio

[sturdy glen]

cuz imo bio is by far the most important part of reactor skip

[strange jolt]

bio is the most important guy there since youre blind

[long ginkgo]

Yeah I am doing fine I think

[sturdy glen]

having a good sniper player is also very nice

(or even just 2 mediocre ones, youre going to kraken anyways)

because honestly youre in full fog

hybrids showing up or even just shotgunning regular shooters with it is like

hella valuable

[strange jolt]

tbh the moment they past that scan 6 its gucci

[sturdy glen]

(and then taking a super waveclear gun like hel shotgun as a main with it works super well)

[strange jolt]

ah for this

[sturdy glen]

kraken can still get kinda nasty tbh

[long ginkgo]

We are running 2 sniper

[sturdy glen]

especially if you gear too hard for the scan and dont bring flyer clear

^ another benefit of 3 sentries, they actually do stuff during kraken

[strange jolt]

also adding to this

[sturdy glen]

also good for the last scan if that is what you are struggling with

[strange jolt]

maybe dont be the dedicated hel shotty as the bio player

[sturdy glen]

just have multiple 👍

[strange jolt]

so you can either focus on clearing hard or just bio

[strange jolt]

or this lul

[long ginkgo]

Ight

Il get back when a new development happens

[strange jolt]

gl

[sturdy glen]

gl out there soldier

[long ginkgo]

It’s done it only took 8 hours

💀

Resupply at reactor was the play

And the boss was super easy compared to the skip

[hard nexus]

I've struggled with last scan in og r6

But now it's very easy

Idk why

[grizzled patrol]

I once did a solo Run of R6D1, but forgor to Bring anything Long range. So at the end i Had to Fight him with a Scattergun and Hel autoP.

It was more than nasty

[soft crater]

Kraken with short range is doable. But ofc. It's a pain in the ass

[frail heart]

who tryna hel shotty only kraken

[ocean spindle]

u

[frail heart]

GUH

[soft crater]

guh backwards being hug

[peak geode]

R4B2 Main:

|| Is it me or does inserting power cells into the main generator cluster make the fog in the level thicker?||

[civic wave]

It does nothing to the thickness, but it does do something else

[dry pumice]

If it's the one I'm thinking about ||I believe it simply moves the fog layer up or down, don't remember which one (probably down, thus clearing high rooms and fogging up lower ones)||

[peak geode]

Makes sense with what me and my team experienced

[ocean spindle]

on that level u dont put ay cells until the very end

otherwise it impairs ur vision quite too much

[rapid briar]

are snatchers supposed to be threatening

cause they’ve always died before they can do anything

[ocean spindle]

well with 4 scatterguns

same as moms

[past mesa]

Snatchers are threatening

They are just used very poorly

[ocean spindle]

what would be a veyr good position to use em

i like em on r5c2 and on a2

[past mesa]

Only good in is in r5e1

[ocean spindle]

...

thats the one everyone says its bad

isnt it

[past mesa]

but it is on the wrong event

[past mesa]

It makes the surge intresting

[ocean spindle]

i guess if they, put the tank with the snatcher instead of replacing it

or thts what ive heard

[past mesa]

Na idc about the tank zone

[ocean spindle]

thats the one thing everyone dislikes of r5e1 apparently

[past mesa]

Literally doesn’t add anything to the level

the snatcher at the end changes how the surge work if you don’t stagger you just loss

[tardy ingot]

theres more that are good

[past mesa]

Very good enemy

[tardy ingot]

personally

[past mesa]

R7 d2 has good ones

r7c1 is a nice intro they aren’t that scary tho

[ocean spindle]

r5c2 on thunderdome its a very good one in my opinion cause it can destabilize u fast

[past mesa]

r7d1 snatchers are boring

R5c2 is good

R8e2 has nothing going on so it doesn’t really work

[tardy ingot]

R7D1 3rd sequence can be nicely chaotic sometimes. The error is ass
R8E1 first one can be
R7C1 obviously nice intro (but tame for vets)
R8C2 can be nice at the end

[past mesa]

Ah I forgot r8c2

I dislike the room

[ocean spindle]

r8b4? its fine

[past mesa]

Because of ladders

[tardy ingot]

R8B4 snatcher is mostly just fodder

[past mesa]

There is snatcher in that level?

[ocean spindle]

r7c3 overload its funny cause u would like just die

[ocean spindle]

in the second T alarm

[tardy ingot]

during the 2nd tscan

[past mesa]

Oh I don’t care

[ocean spindle]

the one with the cool tile- ah

r5a2 i think its funny to scare new players

but doesnt add a lot

[past mesa]

R5a2 doesn’t add anything

It is an awful snatcher

[ocean spindle]

its just a jumpscare for the first clear

i kinda like it

it scared the fuck out of me

[tardy ingot]

Its only funny if not expected and grabs you into the scout room

Otherwise legit 0/10

[ocean spindle]

i thought i knew the level, i didnt knew the level

[tardy ingot]

Honestly R8E1 first 2 snatchers might be the scariest thing of that level lol

Theres no way you did outside of that rly

[past mesa]

But it doesn’t pull you into the scout room most of the time

[tardy ingot]

ye

[past mesa]

Because how snatcher works

[ocean spindle]

no, cause of how the level works

cause u dont open that door after a few seconds after it spanws

so u notice it

in r5b4 they r just kinda there

maybe they wouldve been fun instead of b4, in b3 in overload

if it wasnt such a long scan

so u could like complete it just in time but if u got snatched u get another tank

[rapid briar]

I wish more enemies were as freaky as the snatcher

[frail heart]

ayo?

[soft crater]

As buggy as the snatcher too?

[rapid briar]

I haven’t seen them enough to see the bugs yet lol

giants clipping into walls and c-foam sometimes just phasing through doors are the main bugs I’ve seen

[soft crater]

Getting stuck in spaghetti dimension

Having enemies Spawn in spaghetti dimension

Getting out of the spaghetti dimension but you have spaghetti stuck to your face

[rapid briar]

never been to the spaghetti dimension yet

[soft crater]

You've never been snatched?

[rapid briar]

No

They’ve always died before they could grab me

what is the range that the hical pistol can oneshot a scout with a headshot from the front?

same question for an occi shot, what’s the kill range with the hical pistol

[fierce walrus]

Headshot is like 10 meters i think? Might be more im not sure. Occi id say can even be 20-30 meters probably

[rapid briar]

Tysm

[dry pumice]

10 meters feels wrong

What was scout head again... X3?

Literally the only thing I don't know here is how quickly high cal loses damage exactly

[fierce walrus]

Same

like i know it starts losing damage after like 7 meters i think?

but i have no idea how quickly it loses it

[sturdy glen]

its closer to 20 m im pretty sure

for front head

[dry pumice]

30 x 3 x 0.74 x Y
Against 42

66.6 damage. You have 24.6 of safety net damage.

Me thinks that's 20 meters at least

[rare blade]

Common Jelly W

[rapid briar]

[strange jolt]

fall of is an insane 8m

i think you can also back kill a cscout with it

granted that youre incredibly close

[rapid briar]

wait fr?

[rapid briar]

how close

[strange jolt]

within the 8m damage falloff range i think

not sure if you can get away with further, havent done the calculations

[rapid briar]

damn nice

I gotta put that to hae

use

[strange jolt]

well i dont think its something you should actively look for

but good to know in the moment

[native sun]

29.24m

[native sun]

47.12m

[sturdy glen]

fall off end is 65 wtf

[past mesa]

Hmm did the spreadsheet get a new column

[native sun]

I did these with my phone calculator on a train

[past mesa]

Disappointed

I wanted to see the fall off against against a zoomer

With sniper

[native sun]

94.51m, unlucky, 3% off infinity meters

My favourite factoid is that Sniper kills Scout with occi shot at infinity meters

[past mesa]

This is a pretty important state

[rapid briar]

🙏

[minor fractal]

What is the infini meters thing?

[sturdy glen]

the 10% damage limit on falloff still lets sniper do a good amount of prec damage

so it has infinite range on a good amount of enemies for 1 hs

[native sun]

^ damage never drops below 10%, so Sniper never goes below 8 damage headshot (40 × 2 × 0.1, and then there's ×6 for occi, 48 damage)

[sage pulsar]

does the short rifle take after the p-ixb irl

[neon gust]

∫π/20cosx2−sin2xdx

[tepid sand]

Is pi/20 multiplying just cos(x^2) or cos(x^2) - sin(2x)

[neon gust]

d̷̅̚m̸̎̐r̷̐́ ̸̈́͝1̴̂͛ ̴͌͐ś̸hots

[native sun]

Yoooooo a Fresnel C integral.

Respect for getting both the pi and integral symbol though.

[rare blade]

so if i type list U E_74

what does the U stand for

[native sun]

resoUrces, secUrity (keys) and Unknown (cells)

Matches 3 things you care about at once

[rare blade]

wowzers

good to know

ty

[native sun]

Only misses IDs, because their group is identification :(

[rare blade]

womp

[ocean spindle]

yeah U is pretty much just a filter for everything good

turbines, cells, keys, reactors, glps, resources, data spheres etc etc

[rare blade]

A: reactors, glps, data spheres, dont have a U in them though
B:why arent u the funny chair pfp anymore

[ocean spindle]

reactors glps data spheres have the type being unknown etc etc so they fit into the category too

[past mesa]

Why don’t we use list C

[ocean spindle]

that's what they meant by UNKNOWN

[ocean spindle]

fuck the letter C

also i'm not chair pfp cause i was sad but i'll probs change today later

back to chair slendi

[past mesa]

It gets resource , security Cells. And it gets identification

What does list C miss

Or include

[ocean spindle]

does it list objective items that are unknown too?

[past mesa]

No

Only cell

[soft crater]

[past mesa]

And matter wave projector

[ocean spindle]

ok well u can use it

[native sun]

loCker

[past mesa]

Nooo

It would be so cool

[past mesa]

If we could use && or || for our lists

Maybe even !=

[ocean spindle]

:3

chairm

[native sun]

Imagine being able to pass output of LIST to QUERY, and query all keys automatically

[whole stirrup]

Did you want to know about the 50 lockers as well as the good stuff? Nope? Well too fucking bad!

[jagged shore]

You're so right gtfo should've added a pipe op

[livid stone]

Meth?

[hard nexus]

sUpa kicka

[grizzled patrol]

Imho Listing for W when you are dropping into a lvl blindly is lowkey underrated. Gives you the Most important Infos about the lvl with a possible Peek into secondary/overload

Only a shame that you have to list Keys seperately

[sturdy glen]

list y + list w maps most of a level ye

they kinda fucked it in r8 by adding zones with actual names but you can use it for everything else

you can metagame through almost every level in the game from the first terminal you find

[hard nexus]

Tfw u list w but get the L

[ocean spindle]

i think Y and W are boring ways to just enter a new level cause i prefer just dying in the middle of an error and then find i need a key or somethin
but on repeated games it fine

[grizzled patrol]

To some extent you are correct, but you wont believe how Pfoten have i Seen people Missing Out on showers Just because they didnt know we Had any on that lvl lmao

often* autocorrection

[civic wave]

disinfect is optional

[ocean spindle]

that's just kinda on them, cause most disinfection zones specify they are disinfection zones

like how do u miss the big text that says disinfection

[grizzled patrol]

Either R6D1 or another Mission in R6 there is a shower somewhere around a corner. The Zone door doesnt mention it i think. When i Played with Guys that were repeating the mission, they were genuienly surprised when they found it

Yes it is a lvl where it doesnt even matter

But still

[native fractal]

What sentry do you guys prefer?

[digital mural]

burst sentry

is the best one by far for overall killing

[grizzled patrol]

I Love Hel Auto, but it is extremely situational

[worn crow]

Everything but the shotgun sentry

[dry pumice]

I just bring all 3

(not burst)

[ocean spindle]

well all the usually important ones have their designation
either way if u see fog that's infectious listing a disinfect station it's different than after starting the level list every dimension query every objective item and know exactly what to do and where

[topaz anvil]

I'm a counterculture-ey kinda guy so I love shotgun sentry

[worn crow]

Good for you

[grizzled patrol]

Query? Hell nah, if someone actually does that i would pray for their soul (as a non beginner)

[soft crater]

Query has rare cases to figure out location due to multiple spawn locations for certain objective items. But no one really uses it outside of that.

Iirc it shows how many uses a resource pack has.

[ocean spindle]

yeah, and sec doors like where they go

but on first runs blind of a level yall r telling me vets don't query things and just see there's keys cells and shit and don't bother seein where they are?

[grizzled patrol]

Back to your Point, it is more fun to Play the Level and find it Out for yourself. (And ofc query stuff as you need them)

[dry pumice]

I made it a habit to do LIST SECUR and LIST UNKN at the start of every level

Picks up all unusual items

[rapid briar]

👽

[rapid briar]

It’s nice for querying distant resource packs to determine if it’s worth running back to get them

[sturdy glen]

honestly idk how many ppl actually map levels from the start

for me personally I always do list y and query keys cuz they show up in the corner and then the objective item thats listed

for harder content I normally do both though and query cells (and maybe gens, but typically not) and figure out what the other objectives will be so we can avoid what are typically error alarm objectives first

though meta gaming out HSU objectives and also querying the correct one because it shows up twice is so fucking funny I love doing it

idk this game likes to throw wipe conditions at you out of the blue regardless of your knowledge of the objectives on a level, so id at least like to know what I can

(mainly goes for modded content and E tiers)

[soft crater]

[plucky nacelle]

does querying a security door tell you if it has an alarm?

[ocean spindle]

no i don't believe so

but i think if u open the map and it's a red darker color u can tell if it is

[sturdy glen]

I dont think ive queried a sec door in my whole life

[ocean spindle]

think i've seen it but only tells u what zone is in, what zone leads too etc etc

[worn crow]

It beats walking

[fading root]

Does artifact heat ever reset or will there be a point where you can no longer gain boosters?

[worn crow]

Hell I’ve queried DOORS on occasion

[ocean spindle]

i mean eh u gotta list it to see the number or walk up to it

[ocean spindle]

it increases as u complete other levels in the rundown i believe

so it does like increase

[strange jolt]

they recharge on other level completions, i dont remember if it needs to be in the same rundown tho

[worn crow]

Walking as in walking back over to it if you don’t have photographic memory

[grizzled widget]

All heat is is a "don't farm the same level over and over again" tool

[ocean spindle]

ah good enough i guess

[grizzled widget]

3 of any other level to reset the heat iirc

[ocean spindle]

i think it depends on how low ur percentage is but i am not at all sure on that

[grizzled widget]

But tbf I don't really even use boosters. Too unreliable and def not worth farming for

[worn crow]

R5B1 , no one walked over to the bulkhead key SEC door or the Secondary DC so this helped

[civic wave]

artefact heat recharges by picking up artefacts in other levels, not from completing other levels

[ocean spindle]

... cof

[strange jolt]

Artifact heat will decrease by 1% for every artifact collected in the current expedition regardless of type. Artifact heat will increase by 1% for all other expeditions every 3 artifacts collected. Artifacts will only be counted as collected when you complete a level, fail a level, or retire to lobby.

from the wiki

[civic wave]

it never goes below 50% for uncleared levels or 20% for cleared levels

[ocean spindle]

ahhh

[civic wave]

I want to say it's actually a 1.5% decrease but I can't exactly remember

[ocean spindle]

thenk u sado

[grizzled widget]

Artifacts/boosters are such nonsense lorewise. Warden literally rewarding us with something we should have standard issue already (according to kovac) for picking up trinkets stolen from his space ship

Hindering us for goodies

[strange jolt]

what

they have a lore explanation

[grizzled widget]

Yeah?

[strange jolt]

i figured they were just there for fun no questions asked

apparently not

[grizzled widget]

For years, maybe even from back when og was "new"

[strange jolt]

since trying to tie an explanation to them would be kinda stupid with their nature

[grizzled widget]

They are drugs we are supposed to be injected with to make us superhuman

[ocean spindle]

aren't artifacts alien things and the actual like injections to make us superhuman something else?

warden wants artifacts, and if we pick em we get boosters, not that boosters are artifacts necessarily

[grizzled widget]

Correct

They are unrelated

[ocean spindle]

so like why r they nonsense

[grizzled widget]

Gimme a couple mins and I'll respond in full

Busy rn

Artifacts are literally just that. Artifacts that Insight recovered from the ship that the warden wants back for whatever reason, we do not know.

Boosters are supposed to be constantly running through our systems, enhancing our abilities and making us far stronger than the normal human. Warden is just limiting our exposure for some reason.

[ocean spindle]

maybe the warden knows we don't need em for A tier expeditions sayin eh these bitches ok and the use em on difficult ones
or maybs like theres players who always stacke up then warden believes these are necessary for all missions
and probs they are limited use cause that's just how humans got em working and the warden didn't know how to make em last forever

[arctic marten]

hi frostty!!!!

[grizzled widget]

We know the boosters are toxic (specifically aggressive-type boosters), but all others should be fine.

[arctic marten]

How can detox booster be toxic that makes no sense

[ocean spindle]

i mean probs it's like warden has h th ese idk injections stored, doesn't know how to make em permanent so if the players cautious the warden uses em all every time or if the players cautious they use em more sparingly and for harder difficulties

[ocean spindle]

detox booster 60% melee resistance but 77% minus melee resistance

[arctic marten]

can you put that in a sentence this makes sense please

[ocean spindle]

no

[past mesa]

It is like chemotherapy

Radiation kills cancer it also kills you

Give and take see

[arctic marten]

How did you get that from “detox booster 60% melee resistance but 77% minus melee resistance”

[ocean spindle]

magic

[grizzled widget]

Even if warden were running low on booster stocks from before the collapse, it could always try to synthesize more -- or, or, give all of it to the one team it has that never ever fails a mission, -- us.

[arctic marten]

that’s not true I died in pabulum once

ergo we failed a mission

checkmate liberals

[ocean spindle]

i mean as gameplay mechanics it could b like saying why does the warden send us to r7e1 4 auto sentries
as the completion are the canon events then depends on the use of boosters of those

so probs if a team beats all the missions with boosters that's the answer

[arctic marten]

but then they can’t get the achievement

[ocean spindle]

that's so true

maybe there's a timeline where they are LOSERS cause they didn't got the achievement in

[mossy aurora]

smksmks

[arctic marten]

Yo wassup NLO gang

[mossy aurora]

✊

[grizzled widget]

The number of worldlines are functionally infinite. There is a worldline where our squad is just a bunch of Ronald Mcdonald clones

[mossy aurora]

Nothing, just sitting back and observing because sometimes it's better to do that than comment on everything

[arctic marten]

dam that must’ve been a crazy log to read

[ocean spindle]

:3

[soft crater]

So modded rundowns could just be different world lines.

[dry pumice]

Unironically yes. Multiverse is a hell of a drug.

[lone mortar]

my mans out here giving out free NAM-Vs

[plucky nacelle]

my friend got dc'd near the end of a level and now he's getting kicked out when trying to rejoin, is there no way for him to come back?

[ocean spindle]

it could be a connection side in their side
try askin someone else to join if u can, if they can't either it can br the lobby is done and no one can reconnect
it could also be a steam thing idk i wouldn't think so tho

[rapid briar]

what are good specials that deal with hordes well without having a crazy long reload

[ocean spindle]

machinegun, hel gun if u know how to reload cancel
heavy assault rifle kills strikers in 4 shots at range so if u dont miss its 7 kills with a fast reload
hel rifle with pen could also make a quick work of enemies
revo its one of the fastest special for smalls with a crazy reload cancel, just make sure u hit headshots
combat shottie was kinda made for hordes with good headshots but it kinda has a medium reload
burst cannon if u know how to use it well could also kill a lot of enemies with a very good reload cancel too

[minor fractal]

MG will cripple you on harder content if you lean on it too much.

[ocean spindle]

i mean as always time and a place for a weapon

of course on a level with several bosses and giants it can't keep up with the others

[past mesa]

just learn a better gun

Mg Is a disgusting weapon that only offers easy wave clear

[ocean spindle]

ok i'll learn short rifle

[frail heart]

Me when no stagger

[digital mural]

you dont need stagger when short rifle kills everything fast

trust

[past mesa]

Actually would be better for you as a player

To learn short rifle

[ocean spindle]

learn short rifle -> install auto clickers

[frail heart]

i might adapt to the short rifle meta

[digital mural]

ngl

short rifle is really fun to play

[frail heart]

it aint bad

[digital mural]

its not but theres way better options

i really like short rifle

[frail heart]

just having all short rifles trying to not get swatted by 4 bbcs, hybrid and chargers is painful 😭

ill dump a whole mag into a bbc and itll get a tiny little soft stagger

[ocean spindle]

what was the dmg again?
like 4?

4 x 30 it's 120 so it like one mags a giant perfectly if the recoil of the auto just doesn't make the fun fly

[digital mural]

just kill it

easy

its not that hard

[frail heart]

all i know is short rifle is top 3 guns for killing pmom

[digital mural]

wait

really?

[frail heart]

yeah

i have proof

[digital mural]

send it