gtfo-related-questions

[quartz prairie]

That's the thing

How do we get from spears to terrorism ?

[digital mural]

well

[round arrow]

Someone thought Gen Z lingo was funny. Someone started talking about the line between Gen Z and Millenials.

I mentioned for Americans, the line is if you remember 9/11 or not.

And here we are.

[quartz prairie]

ah

[rare blade]

Idk but we’re not spittin anymore

Some brain cells, decompressing brain cells, non existent brain cells

We up!

That’s the list fr

[quartz prairie]

hell yeaaah

[rare blade]

im have genuine belief that the next generations of Americans is straight up gonna be brain rot kids

[round arrow]

You think we don't have brain rot?

[rare blade]

theres still some people with some brain left

granted

doubt thats gonna last

were going downhill with this one!

[hardy grotto]

thanks beep

[olive smelt]

Hello again!
Is there something which represents some kind of shooting gallery in GTFO?
I just wanted to test all the weapons in the game, but it seems like you are about to test it only in the fight on a real expedition

[dry pumice]

Not that i know of. Maybe a mod somewhere, but i imagine the installation process will take longer than just testing it in-game

[noble sierra]

No shooting range in the game.

[dry pumice]

Pick a piss easy level like R7A1 or something and just run every every gun on it by going loud on every room

[olive smelt]

okay, I think I've got the picture now
much like it fits the lore of the game, huh

[olive smelt]

have no choice but to do so

[dry pumice]

Nah, devs just don't see the point. Testing things in-game is far more interesting anyway.

[twin hamlet]

not at all, you just download cconsole and go on r1a1 or something

[dry pumice]

The number test rooms are disgusting

[olive smelt]

thanks for the answer!
gotta git gud again

[dry pumice]

You can also just ask what people think of the guns

We have a pretty solid set of general opinions on guns and which ones worth anything or not

[round arrow]

But also

Bringing up guns is liable to start a fight

I feel like it happens once a day

[dry pumice]

Yeah, people have the audacity to have incorrect opinions, how dare they...
Or rather just the general lack of objective analysis of the stats and such.

[ocean spindle]

the undertaker

[quartz prairie]

the slendi

[olive smelt]

I got used to STM and a shotgun with choke
also I have a friend I am frequently playing with who uses sniper rifle

[ocean spindle]

STM?

i can guess the others chokemod

[olive smelt]

It is called ПОС in russian, I just cannot check its name out rn

[ocean spindle]

i guess i can kinda guess the gun, sorry

[dry pumice]

ПОС...

No idea

[olive smelt]

STB

reading issue

[dry pumice]

That's either DMR or DTR - the two sniper-like main weapons.

Does it shoot in burst of x2, or singulars?

[ocean spindle]

my guess was PDW

[olive smelt]

full automatic gun

[ocean spindle]

since DTR would have a way longer name

PDW

it is PDW

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Accrat_STB_PDW

it is this one

[olive smelt]

yup

[dry pumice]

Ah, right

A fairly solid gun. Used to be better, but still nice. Braindead close range capability and utility thermals

[olive smelt]

yup
I hate those dark rooms where you have literally no clue where to go or shoot, and when you turn your lights on you see a plenty of muchachos running right to you

and thermal helps with that

[sage pulsar]

how do you guys sprint-slide? ctrl and shift are next to each other under the pinky

[digital mural]

?

well

i just press the key

[turbid horizon]

Either rebind keys or use thumb

[sage pulsar]

huh thumb

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[digital mural]

yeah that works

[sage pulsar]

rebinding to use thumb I get, but without?

[turbid horizon]

listen if Mumbo Jumbo can hold shift with his thumb, you can hold ctrl

Or tap it

[sage pulsar]

tf

[dry pumice]

CTRL for crouching has been cringe

[turbid horizon]

wat

[dry pumice]

So i swapped to C or V depending on mood

Usually C

for [C]rouch

[digital mural]

i use left click to crouch

[turbid horizon]

I just have my middle 3 fingies on WAD, my pinky on shift, and my thumb on space. But I can crank my thumb to my ctrl key if needed

[sage pulsar]

I sense a double shotgun user

[digital mural]

hel shotgun + combat shotgun

[sage pulsar]

bru u are doing that every 3 seconds

[turbid horizon]

no lol

[dry pumice]

Doing Shift + CTRL requirs me to shift hand so that index could press SHIFT and pinky could press CTRL, and i found it uncomfortable over the years.

[turbid horizon]

I normally just use my pinky for ctrl

[digital mural]

tbh that depends on everyone

[dry pumice]

But how do you press both at the same time

[digital mural]

but i do the same as Dak

[dry pumice]

Or do you have shift on toggle or something

[digital mural]

easy and fast

[turbid horizon]

But specifically if I’m doing the crouch sliding, I do thumb cranking

[jagged shore]

Oh no discord just notified me people are talking about crouch keybinds

[turbid horizon]

I have crouch toggle

[turbid horizon]

I HATE THAT SHIT

[noble wind]

Wth kinda thumb U got

[turbid horizon]

you can turn it off in notif settings

[turbid horizon]

I have big hands

[dry pumice]

What are you two talking about

What do you mean discord notified you

[turbid horizon]

Keybinds

[jagged shore]

Same
Idk if I can though, I downgraded my app after the visual update and I don't see the option about it

[sage pulsar]

how often should you slide just for going from A to B

[digital mural]

discord sends notifs on mobile about topics being discussed in chats

[turbid horizon]

Stupid update where discord will randomly go “User: talking about Weapon Stats in GTFO chat

[digital mural]

it can be pretty funny and out of context sometimes

lol

[turbid horizon]

Like that doesn’t happen 24/7

It’s called like, highlights or some shit

[digital mural]

it happens twice a day at least

[turbid horizon]

Suppress it

[noble wind]

Based update

[dry pumice]

I'm literally not aware. How long has this been a feature?

[turbid horizon]

too long

[noble wind]

Please let me know when my friends are talking about X

Also I haven't updated my discord so no issues there

[turbid horizon]

definitely a feature I needed in a 200k+ member server

I tried to not update

They forced me

[noble wind]

Cmon man gotta be lil more tougher than that

[turbid horizon]

I held out for like, 6 months

[digital mural]

you can change the stuff back

to before the update

[turbid horizon]

Randomly got the update 2 weeks ago

[tardy ingot]

nah, thats too slow

[turbid horizon]

why is eva awake

[sage pulsar]

how often should you slide to go places faster

[turbid horizon]

Eva it’s 1am

bro sensed that misinformation was being spread and woke up

[digital mural]

hello 4RK

[turbid horizon]

Fork

Lmao

[tardy ingot]

im trying to find a replacement Dak for the lockout bingo tourney

[turbid horizon]

mmmmm

Good luck

[tardy ingot]

unless you are speedrunning never

well unless you want the habit. Its a minimal gain. I mostly do it due to speeds, habit and becausw its boring to run without doin anything

[digital mural]

once you start doing it

you will never stop

[sage pulsar]

what if I want the habit

[turbid horizon]

then become cursed with speedster habits

[sage pulsar]

how often do I press ctrl

[turbid horizon]

Should be like a heartbeat rhythm imo

Could be wrong

[sage pulsar]

every 2s?

[turbid horizon]

The rhythm, not timing

Idk about timing

Like one double beat every half second?

Or 1 sec?

Idk

[dry pumice]

Me, not using slide once, with my "clear everything" achievement:

[tardy ingot]

just watch speedruns

[civic wave]

not my speedruns though*

[sage pulsar]

^ooh another yootooberrr

[civic wave]

for me I use crtl + shift, use my little finger on crtl and my ring finger on shift. Middle finger does fuckall while index finger holds W and thumb is for spacebar

[sage pulsar]

do you stop sprinting when holding w and a/d? I might have had the feeling

[turbid horizon]

Use the middle finger

Put it to work

[tardy ingot]

Its slower but its still sprint

[sage pulsar]

ah the worst of both worlds

[ocean spindle]

wuh

?

[sage pulsar]

using stamina but not going fast

[civic furnace]

what is crtl for

[digital mural]

to keep things under control

[civic furnace]

ermm

[civic wave]

what do you think

it's to crouch

[sage pulsar]

you fr

[civic wave]

shift is to sprint, default keybinds baby

[civic furnace]

ou I forgot original key binds

[civic wave]

apart from flashlight on v, interact on f, shove on mouse 4

[digital mural]

do people really hate ctrl to crouch?

[civic wave]

but you know, those don't play here

[civic furnace]

i have crouch on V and sprint on caps

[civic wave]

what sort of psychopath are you

[civic furnace]

sorry

[civic wave]

sprint toggle?

[sturdy glen]

💀

[sage pulsar]

poor pinky

[civic furnace]

:_:

[digital mural]

what

[civic wave]

you're using sprint toggle aren't you? if so it's more understandable but still

[civic furnace]

sprint toggle?

no

[digital mural]

if it works it works
who are we to judge

[civic wave]

ok that's it

[digital mural]

[civic wave]

I'm blocking you

[digital mural]

nvm

[turbid horizon]

Sprint on CAPS!

[civic furnace]

what the flip

[digital mural]

time to kill you

[turbid horizon]

What?!!

[digital mural]

[turbid horizon]

hello?

[sage pulsar]

@civic furnace do you use pinky for sprint

[civic furnace]

ring finger

[sage pulsar]

[turbid horizon]

[digital mural]

what

[civic furnace]

okay this might need a handcam demonstration

[civic wave]

I am so confused, and I'm the one who pubs on a secret alt account

ridiculous!

[digital mural]

Pachi

i hate to break it to you
but everyone will recognize you on VC

[civic furnace]

it's good :3

[sage pulsar]

half the playerbase is too new to know

[civic furnace]

what do people sprint with

[turbid horizon]

Bruh no it aint

[digital mural]

shift

[turbid horizon]

shift

[civic wave]

it hasn't happened to me yet

[digital mural]

we use SHIFT

[turbid horizon]

yknow

The default key

[digital mural]

why would you use caps

like

what, why and how

[civic furnace]

because shift is too far from W

[digital mural]

????

[sage pulsar]

man doesnt use ring finger for wasd

[civic wave]

baby hands

[digital mural]

small hands

heh

[civic furnace]

that's also true

:3

[turbid horizon]

bruh

[digital mural]

shift is like 3 keys away from W

[turbid horizon]

i couldn’t have anything on caps

[sage pulsar]

I remember a certain vtoober holding her mouse sideways for fps

also due to smol hands

[turbid horizon]

Bc my computer does a popup every time i toggle caps

[digital mural]

same

idk how to turn that off

[civic furnace]

I get that for shift

the sticky keys thing

[civic wave]

disable it you barbarian

[sage pulsar]

@civic furnace how do you wasd

[digital mural]

with their head probably

[civic furnace]

uhh, index, middle, and ring

and jump with thumb

[turbid horizon]

Just disable the stickykeys popup

[civic furnace]

okay even If I do that shift is still very far from W (for my hand at least)

[turbid horizon]

ok yeah ig

[digital mural]

you really have small hands

really really small then

[civic furnace]

perhaps

[turbid horizon]

bro making me grateful i have big hands

[sage pulsar]

our hands would all be big

if we used caps

[civic furnace]

girl it's not a crime to have it on caps

[turbid horizon]

it’s close

[civic wave]

I think having sprint on caps lock is worse than the few years where I used jump on mouse 5

[turbid horizon]

…what?

[civic wave]

I mean to be fair my spacebar broke so I had to adapt, played that way for a damn while but now I'm back to spacebar

[turbid horizon]

ok

I was going to say

[civic wave]

yeah, I know

[turbid horizon]

Your spacebar better have broken

[civic furnace]

if my sprint is on shift I have to like bend my ring finger in half to reach it

(while maintaining middle finger on W )

[sage pulsar]

why not pinky

[civic furnace]

cause then it will push the other fingers off their jobs

don't think I use pinky for any game

[sage pulsar]

if your w was on r instead I would understand a little

[turbid horizon]

why tho

the pinky is important

he do the sprinty

[civic furnace]

but then what will ring finger do

[sage pulsar]

camp a

[civic furnace]

okay no, IF IT WORKS IT WORKS RIGHT ?

:3

[turbid horizon]

mmmmm

[sage pulsar]

b r u h

[turbid horizon]

doubt

[civic furnace]

:_:

[ocean spindle]

whats the armor of the nscout? like how much it reduces dmg, is there a way to know?

oh nevermind the wiki specifies its 0.3

sorry

[sage pulsar]

where do we first see nightmare mobs

[ocean spindle]

R||8||

also ur pfp disturbs me

[sage pulsar]

I've been told my palm is quite tall

[past mesa]

How do I solo the bot defend missions

It is literally impossible

[turbid horizon]

That’s the funny part - you don’t

no fucking clue

Bring 4 sentries and pray

[past mesa]

Every other mission you can do solo like no troubles

[turbid horizon]

yep

Ik there’s a way to do em stealthed

But I haven’t looked into it

Apparently they work like surge alarms

[past mesa]

Ah

The hell divers community

Is annoyed we lost the defends missions

Two in one day

[turbid horizon]

:)

yep

We tend to lose those

[past mesa]

Very funny

[turbid horizon]

Troost or whatever jungle planet is adjacent to Vandalon was a lost cause

[past mesa]

I am just annoyed that the way to make the most war impact is trivial spam

[past mesa]

Yeah I firgured

[turbid horizon]

I think trivial gives less impact

Iirc

[past mesa]

But the rate you gain for higher difficulties doesn’t grow fast enough to make it worth it

If that makes sense

[turbid horizon]

mmmm

Ic

Yeah, hopefully they address that

Or make the planetside defense slightly less difficult

[past mesa]

I think it is the maps more than anything

[turbid horizon]

the maps feel fine to me

[past mesa]

There isn’t large amounts of cover that doesn’t go away

I mean

In the defence missions

[turbid horizon]

Good chokes, cover, etc

yeah

I like that

Because it means bots don’t insta kill civs

[past mesa]

But they instant kill me

I want more hell diver cover

[turbid horizon]

do they?

[past mesa]

seems like it

[turbid horizon]

i mean rocket, yeah

[past mesa]

A stray rocket

[turbid horizon]

Wack

[past mesa]

Can they shoot me if I crawl

[turbid horizon]

yes lol

Shooting at them will make their aim worse

Like in their general direction

Suppressing fire

[past mesa]

Idk man soloing bugs on hell divers

Is easy

But soloing anything bots related above challenging is not it

[turbid horizon]

These missions are built for teams ig

[past mesa]

I guess

[latent obsidian]

The evac defence missions are crazy compared to anything else in the game right now >.<

[ocean spindle]

ah yes the tutorial tank error alarm

oh no thats not the game ur talkin about

[latent obsidian]

What are you doing with gtfo atm slendi?

Working on any levels in particular?

[ocean spindle]

me? uhhhhh
not really
i am tryin to get most of r4 n r5 done cause its rundowns i barely ever touch smdkmk

and i neeed r7e1 but thats probs a mission for later

[latent obsidian]

Do you still have that 1hr geforce now cut off?

[ocean spindle]

nono

i upgraded to a 6 hour thing

[latent obsidian]

Nice

You'll be fine apart from r5d1 then 😉

[ocean spindle]

yeah

i mean no cause ill probs wipe a couple times

but on time i can afford that skmdkm

[rapid briar]

suffer as i have

[ocean spindle]

i have c3 PE

dont worry

[hasty terrace]

Question about R4A2: Does doing the HSU in secondary start an error alarm?
Trying to figure out if we should do overload before doing the HSU

[ocean spindle]

u should do OV before sec

[rapid briar]

the overload starts an error

[ocean spindle]

notice how the very deep end of SEC doesnt have a key

but OV does

[rapid briar]

it’s a very easy error though

[hasty terrace]

Well shit, we figured that one out too late 😂 Thanks for the answers though!

[ocean spindle]

always query ur bulkhead keys beforehand
tells u exactly where to go and in what order

thats how u know if u gotta do sec first, overload first, maybe even main first

[hasty terrace]

Yeah I should have thought of that beforehand :p I'm too used to already knowing in advance lmao

[sonic prawn]

Hi! Would anyone be able to tell me why I can't play R2E1?

Oh I can't attach photos here

I have completed everything in R2 except for B3 and E1

I haven't completed the tutorial? Not sure why that would matter but just putting it out there 🙂

[past mesa]

You need to finish

All mains

Before you can host r2e1

[sonic prawn]

Ah, interesting. Is that the same for all other rundowns?

[past mesa]

Ye

[sonic prawn]

Wait is that because it is the last level or because it is an E rank?

[past mesa]

E rank I believe

[sonic prawn]

Thanks 🙂

[hasty terrace]

This is none of my business, but if I would really recommend skipping R2E1 for now. That level is of a different difficulty than what you've done so far, and you'll have a much better time doing R3 first ^^

The rundowns were not meant to be played ''in order'', if that makes sense. The difficulty level can scale up exponentially fast, so even if you've completed previous levels in a rundown doesn't mean you'll be able to complete an E level. There are too many players that end up quitting just because they want to do rundowns in order and end up frustrated on R2E1. Its the first ''difficult'' level in the game.

[jagged shore]

for real, i'm finally going back for it and man i do not miss attempting it
i think it'll go a lot better having gotten the experience of levels but god damn did those original attempts not go well, with the current attempts going a lot better even if i'm still not really a fan of the level

[sturdy glen]

I think r2d2 is also a pretty big kick in the nuts for ppl

though it tests fundamentals a lot more/better than r2e1

[hasty terrace]

Its just a lot easier to carry people through R2D2 than R2E1, so beginners are much more likely to find a carry. R2D2 doesn't really test fundamentals imo, just the team's ability to shoot properly (which can be done by 2 people and a few sentries) and manage sentries. Whereas, in R2E1, people actually have to carry their weight for that ending.

[sturdy glen]

you can carry both levels, I more mean without getting carried

for a group where everyones equal r2d2 is ONLY a fundamentals check

fast stealth, looting, shooting

only thing it doesnt test super well is alarm setup

[hasty terrace]

Beginners can snooze on R2D2 and still get the clear 😅 That's what usually happens

Can't do that on R2E1

[sturdy glen]

seen both levels go both ways

[hasty terrace]

R2D2 tests how good the best player in the team is, R2E1 tests teamwork in a stressful situation

If 1 guy can go fast, the rest of the team can follow ^^'

[sturdy glen]

hate to tell you this, that is every level in this game

this game is very carry enabling

[hasty terrace]

That's true xD

But R2D2 carries are cheap. R2E1 is a different business

I'm saying as someone who has carried people through both levels

Carrying a beginner's team through R2E1 is a fucking headache

People get carried all the way until R2E1, think they have the skills for it then get their butt whooped. R2E1 is the level in the game with the worst discrepancy between people's skills and level difficulty imo

[sturdy glen]

ig I can agree with that

I try to be optimistic and think in terms of 3-4 person statics but the amount of those that make it to r2d2-r2e1 is probably tiny compared to the amount of carried ppl in lfg

I Just dont think thinking in terms of carries is very useful for discussion

[hasty terrace]

Oh yeah definitely

[hasty terrace]

I respect the optimism, but I just think getting carried is the reality for most people who first attempt R2E1

[sturdy glen]

but if they get carried throuhg both, how can we really call it difficult for them?

[hasty terrace]

You need 2 ''good'' players to carry a beginner R2E1 team, and the odds of finding that in LFG are crazy low. Unless you have connections ofc

[hasty terrace]

I guess my point is that they won't easily be able to find a team to carry them through R2E1, even though it won't be crazy hard to find one for R2D2. Both levels will feel hard, but for the beginner R2D2 will feel difficult but doable whereas R2E1 will just feel impossible

Even though the beginner is getting carried in both

The difference is that one level can be solo carried, and the other one requires at minimum 2 strong carries .-. which are going to be rare in lfg

[tardy ingot]

You can definetly solo carry r2e1
depending on the other 3s level you just potentially gotta micromanage them a bit. Which honestly just isnt that fun

[hasty terrace]

I agree its boring af, especially since the fun/challenging part is at the end 🙃

[hasty terrace]

Its possible to solo carry if the other 3 aren't complete beginners, yeah. If they started playing last week (which is sadly more frequent than you'd think), you need 2 carries

[native sun]

@sturdy glen @hasty terrace #gtfo-media message

[sturdy glen]

same for r2e1 tbh

but good meme

[neat aurora]

that are a storage box in r7d1 that said locked wtf?

[tropic fox]

Can someone recommend me an ultimate guide for GTFO?

[hidden ridge]

R2D2 is "easier to carry" because if you know where to go and what to do, the timers aren't an issue, which means more resources which means an easier time. Many people who attempt it the first times have 0 clue about all of that shit and do the waves in shit places.

[tardy ingot]

What do you mean „ultimate“?

[tropic fox]

i mean including everything about the game, terminal to enemies to gameplay

I played couple hours years ago, want to start again but don't know anything really

[hidden ridge]

Of course the same is, to an extent, true about R2E1 too, but those surges are nastier than most of the shit R2D2 throws at you

[craggy pier]

I'm new and have a question about artefacts if anyone could help out
I started R1B1 and as soon as I walked out of the pod there was an artefact, noticed I didn't have a scanner equipped so I retired, it said all artefacts would be accounted for and I got to keep it, went in again this time with the scanner and there's another artefact there, albeit not the same type

Are ya supposed to scum arte's or is that a bug or

[hidden ridge]

Artifact spawns are randomized as every (most) other spawns

IE: always an aggressive in the zone, no more than 1 not less than 0, but where it is in the zone is up to you to find

[craggy pier]

I've got 4 bolds on the exact same crate, loading into a game now

[unique bison]

is the match system broken?

i cant match rn

[hidden ridge]

I'm pretty sure booster progress and artifacts are NOT counted if you retire to lobby

[craggy pier]

oooo

maybe that's what it is, I don't know what is which

but alas, thank you!

[hidden ridge]

UNLESS for retire you mean "I placed a mine under my feet and blew myself up then went back to lobby"

[tardy ingot]

Generally professor scaler has that on a lot of things

Theres also (my own) stealth guide. (Something scaler didnt go over)

[craggy pier]

no this

I cant post screenshot, dang it

[hidden ridge]

still yeah, if you retire to lobby killing yourself then booster progress does count

[tropic fox]

@tardy ingotty i will check

[sturdy glen]

artifacts are genned procedurally, artifact heat is the mechanic for anti "scumming"

[craggy pier]

nah I don't need to die, it just lets me keep em

[hidden ridge]

booster PROGRESS, eh, if you used a booster during the run and you die it's deleted

[civic mist]

very few people actually use ingame matchmaking, most people use the lfg channels in this server

[hidden ridge]

Artifact heat is basically the same as heat in Payday 2

Made so that you dont farm "the same" mission over and over

[craggy pier]

ooo it went down by 1% I'm guessing that increases each time

[hidden ridge]

I'd suggest against farming booster btw

[craggy pier]

however it does let me keep the arte's just by leaving

I shan't I was just curious

[unique bison]

my server takes forever to lfg, so i use in-game match instead

[civic mist]

i think most people use lfg na/euw/beginner. either way if youre fine with latency you can join lfg from other regions. LFG is definitely more dead at some times than at others, usually more people around during NA hours I think.

[unique bison]

i hate delays, it breaks my fun every time haha

and what's the g LMg stands for?

[hidden ridge]

The G in LFG? Looking for Group

[unique bison]

thx

[unique bison]

what's diff in LFMX and LFX?

#how-to-matchmake message

[lost flame]

if they like math or not

[civic wave]

Functionally nothing

[neat aurora]

R7D1 cannot touch the main terminal in the end and i cannot finish it :(((

[lost flame]

the M stands for meat to discriminate against robots

[lost flame]

none of the players can?

or just you

[neat aurora]

none

all cannot touch it

[lost flame]

well

as ylvis once said

on a scale from 1 to 10 my friend

you're fucked.

[neat aurora]

:((((((

[lost flame]

tried wiping?

[neat aurora]

try going back and in the game

does not work :((

[lost flame]

both rejoining and dying doesnt work?

well, in lack of other words i'd say you're fucked

[neat aurora]

😦

2hours

[lost flame]

damn

you are as they say in japanese

fucked from the head down to the knees

[unique bison]

XD

[obtuse shore]

so are yall actively in this game right now? im trying to matchmake and im having a tough time finding players, especially with voice chat lol

[lost flame]

why in the world are you matchmaking

just use lfg

[obtuse shore]

lfg?

[lost flame]

word of advice, matchmaking is awful on anything that requires functional teammplay

[lost flame]

oh, new to multiplayer games? here

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[obtuse shore]

oh!

[lost flame]

its worth noting these are inactive hours on a inactive day

in around 6 hours ish it becomes more active for the day, on weekends it becomes the most active

[civic wave]

Go to Browse Channels/Channels and roles at the top of the server to give yourself all the channels

[obtuse shore]

gotcha gotcha

[gaunt lark]

What does ALT:// mean?

[soft crater]

Lore

Next to

Rundowns that were brought back

[ocean spindle]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized

and with some new lore

[sage pulsar]

part of me thinks russia should get their own matchmaking channel, or does east EU cut it for them?

[ocean spindle]

i see most russians goin for the HC server than usin this server

[sage pulsar]

whats that server

[ocean spindle]

#hc-europe message

[rapid briar]

benefits to using hel gun vs hel rifle?

does hel gun oneshot basics with a good pierce?

[ocean spindle]

hel gun with a headshot kills any small enemy, its one of the more flexible weapons in all of the game so it can be used on almost every single mission and it would do fine; it can be spammable for wave control and for killing giants and it has a very very fast reload
hel rifle its a way more damaging weapon, which oneshots any small with a bodyshot, it was a more lengthy reload and a smaller firerate and reload cause of it, but it can be very very useful on missions with chargers due to the dmg and the range of it
both have pen so they benefit from linin enemies up

in shorter terms, hel guns much more flexible and hel rifles more damaging and effective with chargers

[rapid briar]

got it

I was hoping hel gun oneshot body shot smalls

[ocean spindle]

it would be a tad way too powerful

considerin its ammo refill and the firerate and reload

[rapid briar]

what’s a good secondary for tons of trash clear when combined with the hel autopistol

I want to use something other than the combat shotgun

[civic wave]

hel gun

or burst cannon I guess if you swing that way

veruta probably fine too

[ocean spindle]

machinegun maybe

[rapid briar]

I’ve never used the hurst cannon yet

[ocean spindle]

it has a tiny bit of skill ceiling, u gotta kinda know how to turn it to kill more than just one striker

but thats it

its a very good weapon

[rapid briar]

mk

[rapid briar]

which one?

[ocean spindle]

any

[rapid briar]

oh ok

[weary mesa]

pump shotgun is good too

[rapid briar]

so you have to hit headshots with the hel gun?

how do you hit collaterals with that

aside from sweating your ass off I guess

[weary mesa]

collates then finish with primary is what i usually do

[surreal lake]

bodyshot against hoards for pen, headshot for singles if you need to

[ocean spindle]

u can hit bodyshots when u got enemies line up, headshots are more for like when u got straggelrs and u can aim

when u have time to aim

[rapid briar]

oh gotcha

I thought that it was meant that you hit headshot collaterals

[ocean spindle]

no, thats way too complicated

[rapid briar]

I can hit bodyshots 😎

[arctic marten]

Yea hit headshot collaterals

[rapid briar]

real

[surreal lake]

nah these boys strafe left and right as if its foosball

[arctic marten]

Click on head

[rapid briar]

it’s just that easy

[arctic marten]

Can’t believe no one thought of this yet

[rapid briar]

how much dmg does hel gun bodyshot do and how much dmg per pellet does the hel autopistol do

[tardy ingot]

depends on range

but in range 16.25 and ~1.5

[arctic marten]

Hel gun body shot is 16.5, autopistol body shot is 1.5

[rapid briar]

oh ok

[tardy ingot]

oh right was it 16.5?

[sturdy glen]

its .25

[weary mesa]

no it's 16.25

[rapid briar]

normal strikers and shooters have, what, 30 health?

[arctic marten]

Ur right

[tardy ingot]

20 and 30

3x head and 5x head

(Multis)

[rapid briar]

shooters are tankier than chargers?

that’s funny

[tardy ingot]

chargers are also 30

[rapid briar]

I mean

[ocean spindle]

chargers n shooters are 30

[rapid briar]

fuck

strikers and shooters

I keep mixing up striker and charger for some reason

[arctic marten]

You can call them biters and spike heads if you want

[rapid briar]

so real

I think I prefer having my organs inside of my body though thank you

[arctic marten]

Overrated

[sturdy glen]

but you could be unique and quirky!!

[arctic marten]

Guys my team calls it Pablo lololol we are just so creative like that

[past mesa]

Tank_boss

[craggy pier]

Hi guys

[craggy pier]

Spud

(Sorry for harassing you)

Im so glad mrsmountainma’m is back

[past mesa]

He isn’t the mods replaced him

just a different talking head fully under control of the 10cc mods

[arctic marten]

The Moderation Team Is Doing A Great Job And I Am So Happy To Be Here Discussing GTFO The Game With My Good, Rule-Abiding Friends

Thank You For Interacting With MrMountainMan

[arctic marten]

Please do not misgender me, it is in violation of rule 1. (#rules message)
MrMountainMan thanks you for your cooperation, please have a good day!

[ocean spindle]

how muchs the enemy cap?

like how many enemies spawn in a surge?

[noble wind]

25

[ocean spindle]

oke thenk u

[noble wind]

[crystal reef]

Is there any easy way to deal with giants with the knife? I can't seem to stagger that much with it and it ends up kicking me in the face and dealing half of the hp

[noble sierra]

Stay at back, limb breaks x 4

[crystal reef]

so aim to their limbs instead on their head?

would that stagger it?

[soft crater]

Well if applicable. Stealth back of head first

[noble sierra]

Limb break staggered for a longer duration ( you can't really stagger a giant through damage using a knife anyway)

[soft crater]

After destroying the head. Stay to the giants back and go for limbs. If done correctly. The giant's limbs should break

[noble sierra]

Stealth back to the head, then 2 stabs for each limbs should break it. Usually 2 more stabs after 4th limbs break would kill the giant

[jagged shore]

#gtfo-media message

it is NOT easy though, there's a lot of jankiness with it because of how certain damage multipliers work

[sturdy glen]

nah its mainly just knife hitbox being shit

the damage is super lenient

[jagged shore]

it's really not the hitbox at all

it's how the backstabber multi works

at least for doing it like that

if you're doing 2 hits per limb then it's probably fine-ish

[sturdy glen]

no it is the hitbox, if the limb doesnt break its because you didnt hit it

[jagged shore]

literally no

backstabber multi doesn't work like the normal back damage multi

[noble wind]

Also hit box

[jagged shore]

when they do the turnaround stagger anim it gets almost impossible to get both multis

i had no issues with the hitbox when doing it earlier

i only had issues with the multipliers

the only issue i sometimes had with the hitbox was sometimes i'd hit an arm instead of the leg i was aiming for

[sturdy glen]

did you do it with hp shown

[jagged shore]

yes

[noble wind]

If they do the spiny stagger use dodge to get a perfect position on the next Limb

[arctic marten]

Guys let's remember to keep this civil and friendly!
MrMountainMan thanks you for your cooperation!

[jagged shore]

the problem with that is then you probably won't get back multi unless you do it right when the anim ends

[sturdy glen]

well, while I believe you, I can tell you from testing knife before backstab multi was a thing that if the hitbox WAS good then it wouldnt matter

[noble wind]

They ordered a reset on him

Poor bastard

[noble wind]

You gotta improvise a lil

[sturdy glen]

because before you had to hit twice and getting both hits exactly where you wanted was basically impossible

and its not like you cant still hit twice rn

[noble wind]

If you're good with timings then it shouldn't be a Problem

[mossy aurora]

Isn't the issue that the position the giant is facing visually vs what the game detects them at is desynced when they do the spinny from stagger?

[sturdy glen]

yes

[jagged shore]

for normal back damage yes

for backstabber it's based on where the chest bone is facing

so at the end of the spinny stagger you straight up can't get both

[mossy aurora]

LOL

[sturdy glen]

and you would still be able to hit it twice if the hitbox was good...

[jagged shore]

i dunno what your issue with it is man, i didn't have issues with the hitbox whenever i did have to do extra hits cause i didn't get both multis

[sturdy glen]

are you going to genuinely tell me you think knife hitbox is fine

[jagged shore]

yes
get good

[arctic marten]

Let's be nice! The developers are working very hard to bring you excellent hitboxes!

[civic wave]

insert chill dude from the top ropes scout knife r2e1 clip

[mossy aurora]

In jarheads clip he is close enough to be using the hit scan maybe that's why

[sturdy glen]

idk, theres not much more to be said

the statement speaks for itself lmfao

[civic wave]

knife hitbox wonky asf

[jagged shore]

again, i never had issues with the knife not hitting something important
it would sometimes hit the arm that was right next to the leg i was aiming at, but never did i have something not break because the knife's hitbox was weird

[civic wave]

yeah you can get used to it and play around it, but that doesn't change the fact that it's kinda bad in the first place

I guess it's a similar thing for old tank hitbox, yeah it was a bit wonky but it was consistent and you could learn it - which is why I found it funny that people made mods to change it because it wasn't inherently unfair in how it worked

it was just some jank that you could learn to work around

[jagged shore]

i guess i should be clear: i don't think the knife hitbox is a problem for soloing giants
it's kinda wonky in other places, i don't like hitting a wall right next to me when i'm trying to stab a striker in front of me for ex
and it hitting something immediately in the anim insted of normal hitscan stuff or whatever, gets a little annoying sometimes
but for specifically the giant stuff i had absolutely no issues

[mossy aurora]

The hitbox can be weird AND you havent had issues hitting things, those are not exclusive

Because of the hitscan thing

[jagged shore]

this is true
i mainly took issue with chill saying giant soloing with it was fucked because of the hitbox tbh
at least in its current state

the "ideal" way of doing it in knife's current state, with each stab breaking a limb, is fucked because of multis, not the hitbox

[civic wave]

I mean, hitscan thing being so funny in the first place wrt not working on the first frame has fucked up my giant kills before

with hammer, at least

[past mesa]

How do you feel about den of wolves

[arctic marten]

I am excited for the developer's new project, Den of Wolves!

Den of Wolves is a co-op heist FPS from the creator of PAYDAY: The Heist, PAYDAY 2 and GTFO. In this techno-thriller you and your friends operate as criminals for hire in the conflicts between rival corporations in Midway City. Gather your crew, design the plan, gear up and execute the heist.

You can join the Den of Wolves discord and share you opinions with like-minded fans here:
https://discord.gg/denofwolves

[civic wave]

large language model-mrmountainman

[past mesa]

No I think he might be real

[sturdy glen]

they send you to a brainwashing camp when you get muted or smth

[arctic marten]

Let's not spread unsubstantiated rumors, okay? The moderators have a pretty tough job as it is, and I wouldn't want to have to make their days any busier! Thank you for your understanding.

[hardy grotto]

this is very concerning

Please come back mountainman

[jagged shore]

He visited Lake laogai

[digital mural]

what the fuck happened to you

this isnt the mountainman i know

:(

[soft crater]

[lucid kernel]

How do I deal with surge alarms the sleepers just won't stop coming.

[ocean spindle]

thats the point of surges, every time one enemy dies another spawns :D

[civic wave]

rush scans, shoot the enemies that are in your face

be mobile between scans

[digital mural]

be fast

[topaz anvil]

Finally. A normal gtfo community member

[lucid kernel]

I can't outrun the big orange circle

[digital mural]

the point of the surge alarms is doing scans fast

thats pretty much it

[topaz anvil]

Wdym outrun

They are stationary

[soft crater]

[noble wind]

Wonder what kind of pub he had

[lucid kernel]

I guess it's just a problem with me getting overwhelmed too quickly

[noble wind]

What kind of mis info was fed

[lucid kernel]

I thought r2d2 was the final boss then I was thrown into r2e1

[digital mural]

you havent found any bosses

yet

:)

[lucid kernel]

dealing with surge and then shadow giants? scary stuff ya know

[noble sierra]

It was a real big difficulty spike

[lucid kernel]

btw im officially a fog hater

can't see anythin

[noble wind]

Just inhale some more
It gets better

[lucid kernel]

gonna use a shotgun if 5 runup to my face

from the fog

[noble wind]

How far you made it

[lucid kernel]

stuck on r2e1

[digital mural]

which part

[lucid kernel]

most runs ended at the first surge

then the furthest attempt died on the surge where the fog is all around

so someone gotta hold the turbine

I probably just need to change up my weapons to kill them when they reach the team

[noble wind]

Hel pp of hel shotty will do

[lucid kernel]

yeah I tried that gun and for some reason it took alot of bullets just to kill 1 guy

the shotty hel

weird gun

[ocean spindle]

hel shotty its meant for large waves which surges create a lot

its automatic so keep firing, stagger so u keep em there, 2 3 shots to kill so they kill very good, pen goes through enemies

[digital mural]

hel shotty gimick is that it can stagger enemies

[ocean spindle]

no

thats the autopistol

[digital mural]

both of them work for the same thing

[ocean spindle]

hel shotties gimmick its killing large groups

hel shotties stagger its a bonus

not its main thing

[digital mural]

@lucid kernel are you running with bots?

[lucid kernel]

no im running with my friends

[digital mural]

what guns are your friends running?

[lucid kernel]

Lots o pdw

3 veruta and a combat shotgun

[digital mural]

that

explains everything

[ocean spindle]

does it

[digital mural]

2 hel shotguns or 2 hel auto pistols would be great
as well as combat shotguns and machineguns are good so keep them

[digital mural]

i mean
PDW isnt exactly good at dealing with surge alarms

[ocean spindle]

no but machinegun should. and its 3
i mean i admit it isnt a good loadout

they gonna have problems with giants and other enemies later on

tbh id just recommend more variety, one hel shotty one autopiss two of whatever and the the specials that are most appropiate

idk one for wave one for bigger enemies etc etc

[lucid kernel]

I hate using the pdw, i like the heavy smg better

But it makes it easier to spot the shadows

[digital mural]

one person with PDW should be enough

then it can comunicate the position of the shadows

[ocean spindle]

the person with the bio should also be communicating that

u shouldnt depend of one gun to carry u through an enemy, u should expect ur team to help u

or even urself with ur flashlight

most of the zones in the shadow zone are very very dark

[digital mural]

[civic wave]

I think most the problem here will be coming from inexperience and not weapon picks

You can absolutely hold a surge alarm with pdws

[ocean spindle]

not even like pdw machineguns are great for holdin surges

[lucid kernel]

I will retry r2e1 eventually

And I will use the hel shotgun

I will give it another chance

[ocean spindle]

u could also just jump to r3

or r4

if u havent

and just leave e1 for later

[umbral mist]

Is it that bad

Haven’t given it a go yet

My buddies and I skipped to R5 lol

[ocean spindle]

it kinda is :3

yes

E levels be E levels

[umbral mist]

True

[lucid kernel]

surge alarm moment

[ocean spindle]

well not like r5 is any better it is the hardest rundown as a whole but ksmdkm

[umbral mist]

My first day playing, my friend and I messed around for a couple hours on r1a1 then decided we’d do r5a2 for fun

Secondary legit scared us

[ocean spindle]

its funny

i also- got very scared

pls internet

can u work

discord

[umbral mist]

Oop

[ocean spindle]

discord or my internet being a stinky

but well yeah r5 just gets really really hard by b tiers so

[lucid kernel]

I just need to get better at swarm clearing

[digital mural]

E levels are bad on its own

(except R8E1)

[ocean spindle]

gotta do those pew pews

[umbral mist]

I need to get better in general

[lucid kernel]

The funniest surge moment is where the second bioscan is in front of the door and they just keep spawning there

[umbral mist]

Hate that

[ocean spindle]

funny funny rng

it took me a couple many tries tryin to get to a log

[sturdy glen]

save the door for if it goes there

[olive frost]

how dose bio scan speed stack with boosters and number of players in a scan?

for a large red scan how much faster is it with 1 player 2, 3, and 4?

for a scan speed booster it says 10% faster but is that the player scans at 110% or the scan only needs to go to 90%?

mostly what im asking is how the math is done for scans

[hazy wedge]

A big red scan takes 20 secs with 1 player in it, 8.33 with 2, ~7 with 3, and 6.66 with all 4

Idk the correct answer for bioscan speed boosters, but scans will always need to reach 100% completion

[olive frost]

so each player in a scan adds 100% to the speed?
0 players scan speed is 0%
1 players scans speed is 100% ~ 20s
2 players scan speed is 200% ~ 10s
3 players scan speed is 300% ~ 6.66s
4 players scan speed is 400% ~ 5s

my math may be bad

[topaz anvil]

I'm pretty sure there's a limit to the bioscan speed booster for multiple players

[olive frost]

so if all 4 players had 10% speed it wont go to 440%?

[topaz anvil]

something like that

I might just be spreading misinformation though

[olive frost]

if only it said on the wiki

[topaz anvil]

man I'm in hell right now 💀

from my own observations, bioscan speed is limited to the highest percentage any one person has

[olive frost]

im just going to make the assumption that the boosters are and add onto the players scan speed. if one players had a 10% then it would look something like this
1P 110%
2P 210%

[topaz anvil]

but its been a while since we've taken boosters

[olive frost]

maybe a dev would enlighten me (they wont)

[jaunty latch]

I dont think the devs look in here anymore

[fallen kite]

Tfw R2E1

[nocturne yoke]

Bio-s speed, that is so satisfying and super economy with ammo.

[sage pulsar]

does the occiput on chargers take less dmg than the spinal column

[frail heart]

yes

they have no headshot bonus multiplier

only back

[ocean spindle]

it doesnt take less dmg

from what i understand, all of their back is the back multiplier

no matter if u hit a leg, the head or on the spine

itll give a 2x back multiplier

[sturdy glen]

It'll be same damage ye

[ocean spindle]

and this is true to every enemy

occiput its just the back and head multipliers together

[hazy wedge]

[dry pumice]

Chargers don't have a head by the game's logic. For them its just a random limb that explodes and that's that. So don't even bother aiming for their heads period - just go for the fat belly.

[sage pulsar]

what other regions ping is not too bad from SEA

[sturdy owl]

how exactly do sentries choose targets? Do they all target the current closest? And if the closest enemy is constantly changing, does it just never shoot because it's always reacquiring targets? particularly with sniper sentries. I'm wondering if there's a way to place it so it mostly shoots at slow moving giants instead of overkilling smalls

[civic wave]

it should lock onto the first enemy it sees, and then fire at that

if the first enemy it locks onto leaves the sentry range/sightline then it'll go onto the next target

[sturdy owl]

presumaly next target is the closest?

[civic wave]

dunno ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sturdy owl]

sounds like the only way to have them focus on giants is to point it where the smalls outrun the giants and leave them behind to be targeted

:/

[visual coral]

Asked this in general during off hours, figured this channel would be better.

Which level has the quickest to access / easiest to kill P-mom? I'm going for the Swift achievement (kill P-mom without taking damage from babies).

What's recommended weaponry? Just scattergun it to death?

[ocean spindle]

scatterguns very very effective on it, sniper too now so any of the two
and if u have it unlocked r8||a2|| its the easiest way, otherwise i believe r3d1 should not give u too much problem and u should be able to get to it fairly quick

[distant gate]

can also have team bring 2-3 machine guns and just spray death on babies as they spawn

[sage pulsar]

how do you guys stealth clear shadows without bio

[ocean spindle]

well if its a dark room u can shine ur light on em, mainly form ur weapons cause its usually the strongest one, maybe have a even to see better and see each one and take em as usual

if itsa bright level i bring thermal

and if i dont have thermal i pray

[distant gate]

shine their feet to know where they are but not wake them up

[hazy wedge]

When the shadows have shadows 😨

[ocean spindle]

thats tbh still very hard to like see

[jagged shore]

I have to wonder the logistics of a creature that is invisible to the eye but still blocks light

[hazy wedge]

I mean the game in general doesn’t make sense in the end

Buckland SBS III moment

[jagged shore]

Well yeah

I don't mind it existing lol, I'm just kinda curious if there's any way that could exist

[ocean spindle]

thats just two shells into the top barrel smh

also i imagine the shadows lighter than the other enemies thats my headcanon

its a fainter shadow like that of glass

but biocom n masks makes it the same

so its more visible

[timid grove]

it uses the same timelord technlogy as the hel revolver

[proper dome]

how do i start a game and party for newish players bc i wanna play with people around my experience so im experiencing it together

[lone mortar]

@ocean spindle

.t lfg this man

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[proper dome]

wym lfg that guy

im new to all of this

just got the discord channle a few mins ago

[lone mortar]

Lfg=looking for groups

Its the place where ppl find their HSU loading dock and squad up

[proper dome]

oh ok now how do i start a voice channle with newish players?

[lone mortar]

If youre fresh and new use the beginers

[proper dome]

how?

[lone mortar]

Go into the vc that has create team of 4

[proper dome]

ok done

[lone mortar]

Then type LF1-3 and the level you want to play

Copy a invite link from the voice channel youre in

Post it on the lfg section you want

And if you dont see the lfg section

Make sure to scroll up to the top of the server and check list the lfgs

[proper dome]

people have theres so perfectly made how can i do it like that

and thanks for the help i really appreciate it

do people actually follow the beginner thing or will i get not new people?

[strange jolt]

some people have layouts but dont worry about that as long as your message contains all the relevant info

[proper dome]

oh alright

[strange jolt]

you will usually get new players but if a veteran joins a lfg beginner lobby they shouldnt try to hard carry

don't feel bad about calling someone out if you think their pace isnt right for the team

[proper dome]

oh ok thanks alot

one more thing tho is i cant fine the difficulty anywhere

@strange jolt

[strange jolt]

difficulty? like the different sectors each level has?

because some levels have optional side missions you can do

[proper dome]

im trying to do r1a1

but in the how to matchmake it says to say ur difficulty

@strange jolt

so what do i do about that?

and that should be it

[strange jolt]

you can honestly just ignore it for now, lfg for r1 levels are straightforward anyway

[proper dome]

ok thanks alot i really am grateful for the help

i was clueless

[strange jolt]

and yeah the difficulty part refers to the optional side missions

[proper dome]

ok thanks

[strange jolt]

you'll encounter them soon and you can choose whether to go for them or not

[proper dome]

oh alright

[strange jolt]

and add that info in the post so the people joining have an idea of what you want to accomplish

[proper dome]

ok thanks alot

[lone mortar]

wana R4D2 sado?

[proper dome]

@lone mortar i thought u suppose to only join if u tryna play?

[lone mortar]

yeah i changed my mind

[proper dome]

also i keep hearing a dinging sound do yk wut that is?

[lone mortar]

no

it might be you

[proper dome]

its coming through my headset and idk whats doing it i only have gtfo and discord open and never heard the sound before

[past mesa]

booster pick ups

[proper dome]

oh alright

[strange jolt]

i was outside earlier

i can play rn if you want to

[sour bronze]

Will the game be fixed or is it just over?

[tardy ingot]

wdym „fixed“

[whole stirrup]

I think it means short rifle buffed

[sage pulsar]

Does it help if I hit the occiput of a scout from the front?

[craggy pier]

what

[dry pumice]

Probably over. No known patches in the works, whatever issues remain shall remain for the foreseeable future.

[sour bronze]

Oh my god do you spend your entire life on this server

[craggy pier]

Yo devs, why isn't there a monster that leeches into the ground and damages players over time. Imagine it like a tree with roots.Like, maybe it could spawn little dudes from the roots that attack you, can you have to destroy the mother head to destroy the roots

[sour bronze]

I go on this server like once a month, and every single time without fail @dry pumice you respond to my questions/messages

[dry pumice]

No? I literally just launched discord for the first time today.
But yes, its pretty much the only discord server i have, i don't need more distractions.

Technically there's the XCOM one, but there's rarely a conversation i'm interested in...

[sour bronze]

Do you not have a job/school or anything?

[keen pivot]

hi, for the biotracker achievement, do i need to pull every single room and mark the enemies, or can i leave after finish main obj without pulling everyroom ?

[sour bronze]

Also that's unfortunate, the game is in such a shit state atm.

[sour bronze]

I believe you need to pull every room

[keen pivot]

yeah i will just do it for safety

[craggy pier]

every entity on map needs to be pinged

[tardy ingot]

Is it?

[sour bronze]

do like r1a1 for that, since it has very few enemies, and make sure you dont bring bots since they kill them before you can track sometimes

[sour bronze]

30-40% of my games experience game breaking bugs

[craggy pier]

have fun pinging extract error waves

@keen pivot r1b1 is the easiest level for the achievement

[keen pivot]

yeah im currently on that one

doing pistol achievement at the same time

pain....

[dry pumice]

I do have a job, in fact. Launching up my remote workplace right now.
It just doesn't stop me from hanging around here

[craggy pier]

I'd recommend playing it with 2 or more people and everyone takes bio

[tardy ingot]

Wait you are doing the whole level solo with bio?

[sour bronze]

Well i'm not one to judge how people spend their free time. Have fun. I just find it funny that every time i talk in this server you respond

[keen pivot]

y-yeah...

[latent obsidian]

tbf since R8 things seem to have gotten quite a bit worse imo. Checkpoint doors slower for client, terminals locking us out, dead enemy bio pings, cfoam going through the doors, bulkhead controller lockout, stuck waves, mines blowing up before the door breaks and not breaking the door...

[tardy ingot]

Honestly interested in what kinda bugs that break the game you get all the time

[dry pumice]

What can i say, i love being the trivia boy.
There's a couple Steam forums you'll find me on too.

[craggy pier]

i have this game breaking bug where the pubs wake up the r7e1 pmom zone

[latent obsidian]

oh and shotgun now has a reload bug 🙂

[craggy pier]

archive mod users stay winning

[latent obsidian]

oh and cfoam grenading doors causes a massive lag spike for everyone but host

enemy positions and scan positions don't update

[tardy ingot]

1. not seen that myself
2. as much as before personally
3. kind of?

Tho all the above are tatataaaa desync related with bad host/client connection

Cfoam stuff happens just as much. Its „memory leak“ that is annoying as hell tho (easily avoided by restarting often enough)

• wait, the bulkhead controller thing i dont know about

stuck waves is sadly enemy pathing breaking. I do agree this feels like it happens more and more over the alt rundowns and now r8

That last one is enemies clipping into a mine through the door. Why the door doesnt break sometimes idk

Tbh the big issue this game has is desync stuff

[latent obsidian]

A lot of these aren't new bugs I know, but they seem to be more frequent now

and when we try to switch host it fucks things up entirely

also I've been kicked to rundown screen without warning a few times now

might have happened once before R8, 3 or 4 times since

[tardy ingot]

the only real gamebreaking bugs are sound bug (oof) and memory leak

[latent obsidian]

might be steam maintenance sometimes though not sure

[sour bronze]

Networking issues, host migration is fucked. Enemies getting stuck, causing infinite combat and running us out of stamina (more just annoying), bots are the worst thing in all of existence, checkpoints are still horrible and cause so many issues. Graphical bugs, such as the whole world not rendering, or the big black spot making it so you can't see anything. Sometimes you just get sent to the main menu mid-game, which is just game over as host. Terminals sometimes just dont work and we need to restart. Also map softlocks due to geometry, but thats just a map design issue. Loads of other non game breaking stuff, but that's the worst of it

[tardy ingot]

Generally it is

[neon gust]

das crazy, you should help defend democracy instead

[sour bronze]

?

[dry pumice]

(Its a Helldivers 2 shill)

[sour bronze]

i havemt played that yet

[dry pumice]

Apparently its pretty good, or so i heard.

[sour bronze]

So have I

[latent obsidian]

Its nice, I think its kinda run its course in my group til they update it though

[dry pumice]

Allegedly pretty hardcore too, mission survive rate is... not that big.

So if you need a coop itch - that's the new cool guy on the block.

[soft crater]

Shut up bozo ⬆️↗️➡️⬇️⬇️⬅️⤴️↖️⤴️↔️↪️↔️⬇️↔️
(500kg bomb)

[neon gust]

its gonna be a the cool guy for a long time

the dev actually cares

[craggy pier]

I SAW THAT

[soft crater]

[sour bronze]

goodbye message :0

[neon gust]

am i wrong

[dry pumice]

I deleted GTFO already, the only things i had left to do are some achievements and i just don't have the patience anymore, or rather GTFO just stunlocks all others things i want to do, so i put it into hydrostatsis for the time being. Maybe i'll comeback like 2 years from now, finish them logs.

[neon gust]

maybe for GTFO 2 they actually have a plan for it instead of just winging it 90% of the time

[soft crater]

[neon gust]

thank you wolf

[sour bronze]

GTFO was "sort of" their first project so i can write off some stuff as mistakes they should learn from. Hopefully DoW is a lot better

[neon gust]

we fucked up a lot, and we might fuck up??? -ulf anderson 10cc CEO

on a den of wolves interview

dont chu love it

[sour bronze]

oh eya i remember taht

[latent obsidian]

encouraging words

[neon gust]

he just need a project manager

a good one

and hes gonna live life stress free

[sour bronze]

fucking up during development is normal, fucking up after release is an issue

gtfo did the latter

[neon gust]

he fucked up everything

wachu mean

lmao

from rundown 3

hes been fucking up lmao

[dry pumice]

Yeah, GTFO was genuinely just too much of an experimental wall-throwing project. They tried different things, saw first hand what community thinks of this or that. If GTFO 2 ever gets to become a thing i do hope they'll actually like have a plan in place.

[sour bronze]

yea before release is normal, but after release is a problem. Gtfo fucking up during early rundown is just devs trying stuff. After release its unnaceptable though

[sour bronze]

Yea agreed. The "random bullshit go" approach is fine in early stages to try and get a good idea of what you're trying to do. But them still doing it on the final rundowns of the game is idiotic.

[neon gust]

i wish there was actual random bullshit go

i should probably leave this server

[dry pumice]

Rundown 8 was pretty good, all things considered. Cool tilesets, cool objectives.
The "story" made exactly 0 sense though, its been a long time i've seen a story this ravaged by incoherency.

[sour bronze]

It wasn't that bad. It was the timeline split thing wasn't it?

Story was convoluted, but made sense to me

[dry pumice]

Not even that, although i genuinely do hate multiverse - MCU completely ruined my hope that there's a writer out there capable of handling the concept.
The order of events, Henrikson going out without even a whimper, Schaeffer changing character over night... Just... Its just a mess.

If you made a movie out of this i would give it a 2/10 at best.

[sour bronze]

Yea well the lore is far from the main focus. It's more just an underlying bit of lore to add atmosphere.

Well I don't think anyone can make a perfect game on their first try, and I enjoyed my time with GTFO. Hopefully they learn from their (many) mistakes when making DoW and give us something that matches GTFO's great game design, while also being functional.

[dry pumice]

Yet Dark Souls did it better, so... Its just a botched job, really. An occasional log there and there was very cool to listen to, particularly the UN DayLight mission logs, but literally none of it goes anywhere. The events of R8 feel rushed no matter how i look at it.

[hidden ridge]

R8 IMHO proves that, if they could redo sectors, they vvery probably would for some map, and make them an either/or scenario instead of having you do an extra objective together with Main