#gtfo-related-questions

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tribal flower
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Crimson grit is also no longer obtainable?

ocean spindle
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that was an event

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not like it was in r6 and then r6 got out- no that was just a limited time event

whole stirrup
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You can get both with mods I think

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but ya

tribal flower
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Really? That’s when my friends and I played the first go around so I have that one but my friends don’t lol

ocean spindle
ocean spindle
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which is a thing if u like do all missions already

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and still want the other clothes

whole stirrup
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Ya - that's probably why I will use it - cause having rng on what unlockables you can't get is annoying

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like they are unlockable but you just didnt get them and now you cant get the rest

ocean spindle
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eh apparel on gameplay doesnt matter so sure

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i would

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if i could

inland tree
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how much was changed in the r8b4 exit waves? i would normally find out my self but my squad is really busy as of late and im not good enough to get there with bots

hazy wedge
crisp salmon
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how much ammo was added to shotgun?

fierce walrus
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so when in old patch you’d get 20 enemies per wave you will not have about 10

hazy wedge
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Assuming if you checkpoint, it doesn’t mess spawns up

fierce walrus
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but i havent tested it myself yet

fierce walrus
hazy wedge
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Hopefully not but fuck checkpoints 😩

inland tree
fierce walrus
inland tree
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if they guy we sent ahead for the cell was not carful enough they would die to the giants and would cause us to revive loop or perish

hazy wedge
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I never had a problem with giants spawning ahead HZ_Think_Rimiko

tardy ingot
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go brrr

ocean spindle
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it was an issue for me only when u opened the zone

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then they spawned with the wave

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but i bet theres some position u could make em like have separate spawns

inland tree
rapid briar
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what is the safest way to kill a tank that’s not blowing 10 mines

strong shore
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I like finding a sleeping one, cfoaming it and then unloading with 4 scatterguns

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At the back**

whole stirrup
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1 scattergun kills a tank pretty easily

strong shore
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but is that safe behavior?

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idk man

ocean spindle
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if u got cover sure

frail heart
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i like using knife

tardy ingot
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4 shots puts it at 40 hp

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very easy to get those hits

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scattergun does it also very well but is harder to do (as you need to get closer and a better angle)

haughty island
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My bad i thought it has 1500hp

modest monolith
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to fully kill a tank, you need 7 sniper bullets

sturdy glen
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its 5 now with no extra damage

modest monolith
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ok i'm an old ass man

sturdy glen
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so like eva said

craggy pier
sturdy glen
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they uncapped tumor damage

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did some insane changes inthe recent patch

craggy pier
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so

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sniper does 240???

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to tank tumor

sturdy glen
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ye

craggy pier
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nuclear

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what the fcuk

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what else do i need to know

sturdy glen
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host deals as much damage as client for non shotguns now

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(neither tracks the tumor current hp anymore)

craggy pier
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so like bc??

sturdy glen
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idk what you mean

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but basically

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if you shoot a damaged tumor you always do full damage as both host and client now

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instead of just client

craggy pier
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oh ok

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is scatter still monka pepega

sturdy glen
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ye its unchanged basically

craggy pier
sturdy glen
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host deals like 5 more damage with it now

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(not an exaggeration btw, it is actually like 5 damage)

noble sierra
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More like 4.8

trim rock
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Since no-one asked, here are are "practical" stats for B4 extract waves;

Before:
Wave of 10. (0 Seconds)
Wave of 10. (8 Seconds)
Wave of 11. (16 Seconds)
Wave of 11. (24 Seconds)
Wave of 12. (32 Seconds)
Wave of 12. (40 Seconds)
Wave of 13. (48 Seconds)
Wave of 13. (56 Seconds)
Wave of 14. (64 Seconds)
Wave of 14. (72 Seconds)
Wave of 15. (80 Seconds)
Wave of 15. (88 Seconds)
Wave of 16. (96 Seconds)
Wave of 16. (104 Seconds)
Wave of 17. (112 Seconds)
Wave of 18. (120 Seconds)
Wave of 19. (128 Seconds)
Wave of 20. (136 Seconds)
...

After:
Wave of 7. (0 Seconds)
Wave of 7. (10 Seconds)
Wave of 7. (20 Seconds)
Wave of 8. (30 Seconds)
Wave of 8. (40 Seconds)
Wave of 8. (50 Seconds)
Wave of 9. (60 Seconds)
Wave of 9. (70 Seconds)
Wave of 9. (80 Seconds)
Wave of 10. (90 Seconds)
Wave of 10. (100 Seconds)
Wave of 10. (110 Seconds)
Wave of 11. (120 Seconds)
Wave of 11. (130 Seconds)
Wave of 11. (140 Seconds)
Wave of 12. (150 Seconds)
Wave of 12. (160 Seconds)
Wave of 12. (170 Seconds)
Wave of 13. (180 Seconds)
Wave of 13. (190 Seconds)
Wave of 13. (200 Seconds)
Wave of 14. (210 Seconds)
...
craggy pier
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bruh

frail heart
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thats fucked

craggy pier
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is that like a mega nerf am i reading that right wtf

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is that just the main waves?

frail heart
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Thats like half

craggy pier
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ig its rly a B level now

frail heart
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Yep

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as it should be 😡

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But its prob like c tier

craggy pier
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im pretty disappointed about that tbh

sturdy glen
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damn that is a big nerf

frail heart
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at least i didnt have to endure the pain

craggy pier
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sec adds nightmares right?

frail heart
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Yes

sturdy glen
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does this include the giants

craggy pier
sturdy glen
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or are the giants the same still

frail heart
trim rock
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Nightmare waves are the same afaik

craggy pier
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ok

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still a massive nerf

sturdy glen
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eh

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not that bad tbh

frail heart
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Its a massive nerf

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You actually have downtime

craggy pier
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atleast its pubbable now ig

sturdy glen
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10 strikers, 3 nightmares, 2 giants is not that easy of a wave

trim rock
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But given that the numbers I posted are still diluted by the fact that if you dont kill a 2 waves, no more will spawn, as the max cap is 14.

frail heart
craggy pier
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i need to replay it and see how much difference i notice

trim rock
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The first cell is the hardest part and its nerfed now by like 60%

frail heart
trim rock
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ayy lmao

hazy wedge
craggy pier
hazy wedge
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Yeah

craggy pier
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pretty burger

hazy wedge
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borgor

sturdy glen
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zamn

craggy pier
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ig it was overtuned for a b level

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but still

trim rock
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tbh I expected them to buff the beginning of the b4 it feels like B1 with extra sauce on top

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Before you hit the checkpoint the only thing you can die to is fliers

craggy pier
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isnt there hybrids and smalls in that alarm

trim rock
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You get like 2 snatchers, 2 hybrids and a trickle of 3-4 smalls

craggy pier
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i remember solo running that scan and got hybrid jumpscared, i spent atleast half of that scan spamming A-D

trim rock
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Its literally nothing, if you have two people defending and one person on tscan + one dude shooting fliers it's a snooze

craggy pier
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@hazy wedge is it still one of the harder b levels or did they gut it

trim rock
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Not to mention unless they fixed the meme strat of skipping the fliers entirely you don't even get fliers, just one hybrid and snatcher every 1 min or something and an error of smalls that is less than the extract alarm in R5A2 when you pick up the cargo

floral dome
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is there any way to get bots to actually do stuff like scans without following someone or do they only do scans when you are also doing them

craggy pier
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bots are awful play with real ppl

frail heart
trim rock
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@floral dome You can stand between scans and they'll do em, but you need to be in proximity as they will not stray too far from you

hazy wedge
craggy pier
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🤑🤑🤑

hazy wedge
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Didn’t help I had machine pistol firing on them 😆

trim rock
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My favorite is when one person goes down on t-scan and two people start reviving instead of just leaving them behind as revive + fliers = you're the next body

floral dome
trim rock
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@floral dome Watch where the lines go and split up with each of you having one bot on follow. Run to the furthest scan on a side, and make sure your bot stays on any scan nearby, rinse and repeat.

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If you haven't already, give one of the bots a bio-tracker, as they are really good with it. Information is power. The other one can have a sentry as its easiest to manage. Bring C-Foam and Mines for the two human players, observe where and how enemies path for each alarm, which doors they break, and cfoam / mine those doors.

floral dome
hazy wedge
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Burst is always a safe bet

trim rock
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^

craggy pier
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no shotgun sentry buff trollirredeemable

trim rock
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That C2 can be a bit tricky with bots since bots really don't do well against chargers

craggy pier
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if u want

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u can foam and mine the outer doors behind both entrances on the charger alarm

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will make it significantly easier

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also play with real ppl

floral dome
craggy pier
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roll the dice on pubs 🤑🤑🤑

floral dome
hazy wedge
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I can help you if wanted but my schedule is erratic

craggy pier
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yuki pookie NO. 1 tour guide :3

floral dome
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ive gotta touch grass

hazy wedge
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Idk about tour guide. Only actual level Ik by heart is R7D2

craggy pier
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yeah but who doesnt be fr

frail heart
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yeah who doesnt haha uh yeah not me

remote mortar
foggy ridge
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i don't think the waves actually increase in current b4

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shot around 10 waves worth

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but the good thing is the giants also have a spawn bias of the elevator side

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that is without checkpoints at least

frail heart
craggy pier
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are sscouts heads harder to hit without jumping than regular scouts

fallen kite
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If i’m using 3 bots on R2E1 should I be the one to take the bio tracker?

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Bc of the ||shadow giants||

craggy pier
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if you're planning on beating r2e1 you should not be using bots...

fallen kite
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Stormer suggested I play with bots last night

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prisonerefficiency idk wtf i’m doing boss

craggy pier
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💀

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stormer is a certified misinformation enjoyer

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play with ppl if you want a sliver of hope of beating that level

fallen kite
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Lets say I was stupid enough to do it with 3 bots

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Just hypothetically

fallen kite
fallen kite
craggy pier
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human bio is better than bot bio if u know how to use it

fallen kite
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I definitely don’t

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I’m more worried abt the invisible enemies- i dont know kf they only appear during alarms or whether they’re sleepers

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Both suck dick

craggy pier
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theres only invis enemies in the side zones b4 second surge

fallen kite
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i’ll figure out wtf a surge is

craggy pier
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read the alarm doors brah

fallen kite
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Willl do

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I imagine those surge alarm doors are what the guys screaming ‘don’t touch, damnit’ for

topaz anvil
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I mean you shouldn't touch doors in general if people aren't ready

fallen kite
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Maybe its a super special door

tardy ingot
craggy pier
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?????

fallen kite
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Bot bio does it off cooldown instantaneously

tardy ingot
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obviously you get the advantage of actually looking at bio

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but idk

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why would you play r2e1 with bots

craggy pier
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THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

tardy ingot
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that just sounds boring and like pain

fallen kite
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I dont know what i’m doing

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I’ve been misinformed

tardy ingot
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so if they suggested to play with your monitor off you would do it to?

fallen kite
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Yes I would

tardy ingot
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hey hey

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i didnt go that far

fallen kite
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No

tardy ingot
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its possible to clear levels completely blind

fallen kite
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Its ok

tardy ingot
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in theory...

fallen kite
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Weren’t you the one making a whole stealth guide

craggy pier
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i need to watch that actually

fallen kite
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Where is it

tardy ingot
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i wont do it again anywhere else

tardy ingot
fallen kite
jaunty latch
fallen kite
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The section on intentionally triggering long range aggro is really interesting

noble wind
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the pings dont work

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only for staff

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🫵

ashen frigate
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...

craggy pier
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whats the spawn number/rate of enemies on r8a2 main extract

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feels like alot alot

trim rock
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The logs have indeed been maxxed

craggy pier
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🤑

trim rock
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💵

soft crater
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All I know is if you leave scouts alive you're typically hitting spawn cap anyways

fierce walrus
craggy pier
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fun extract

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i did it with a friend and 2 pubs earlier, pre sure im the only one who'd done it before, the 2 pubs died instantly and me and bro were on extract shooting 20 dudes at once

soft crater
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I can't remember

craggy pier
soft crater
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R8A2 Extreme runs

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Well

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I've never done main

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I missed "main" in your initial question

craggy pier
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the friend i mentioned was hange

soft crater
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In a Main clear?

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You got Hange to do a Main only clear

craggy pier
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yes

soft crater
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That's crazy

craggy pier
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he hadnt done it b4

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i told him it was cool

soft crater
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@twin terrace you rat

craggy pier
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||the upside down room||

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loooooool

soft crater
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When we wanted to do Main only

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Hange kept callin it lame and wack

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(No even clear numbers sadly but R8 kind of encourages it)

craggy pier
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main is completely different

untold sinew
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is scout unkillable with a knofe if he's been triggered?

noble wind
untold sinew
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lmao knofe

civic furnace
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If it has been triggered you can’t kill it with anything

noble wind
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but back of the head full charge u can (not alerted ofc)

civic furnace
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Until animation ends

untold sinew
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now I know

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I also now know that an alerted but c-foamed scout is killable

narrow niche
ocean spindle
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does sniper now oneshot ||nightmare||scouts?
or like nothin to do with eachother

narrow niche
ocean spindle
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idk if the change now does somethin to it or somethin

tiny wyvern
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I think the only change is now you can double tap with sniper

soft crater
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It isn't being tumor damage capped

ocean spindle
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ok ok

untold sinew
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is shove even moving giants at all? if I have a knife in my hand

noble wind
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does nothing to em

untold sinew
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so not moving?

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I can't push them further away from like a hack lock

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?

noble wind
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nope

hazy wedge
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Lock melter moment

untold sinew
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no lock melter moment

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lmao

noble wind
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just dont fail FingerGuns

untold sinew
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I killed one with c foam but took a hit too

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now the second one...

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shouldn't have foamed apparently

noble wind
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what level u on 🤔

untold sinew
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r1b1

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giants spam

noble wind
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oh that one

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good luck

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there are many of em :3

untold sinew
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11/12 ids

noble wind
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almost there and no extract error alarm so take ur time

untold sinew
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I did it

ocean spindle
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:D

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nice

narrow niche
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:3

summer echo
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Is chaining slides faster than straight sprinting?

jagged shore
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iirc generally right now no, but it conserves stamina a little bit so you can run at a higher speed bit a little bit longer before you need to walk to manage it

summer echo
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Got it

dreamy pecan
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does sentry do additional damage to the back of enemies?

pseudo coyote
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the difference is very small though so kinda just doesnt matter if u slide / sprint anymore

mossy aurora
jagged shore
iron orchid
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uh my friend keeps getting us into an infinite drop for some reason

hazy wedge
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👍

digital mural
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👍

iron orchid
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wdym lmfao

noble wind
iron orchid
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yes

digital mural
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is one of you using a VPN?

iron orchid
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he has it turned off

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the one that has the problem

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the drop breaks out of the infinite loop when he leaves the lobby

old girder
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real quick before i do somethinh stupid: do trip mines get tripped by players? or can they?

frail heart
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No they dont

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Only by enemies

old girder
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okay thanks!

frail heart
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👍

jagged shore
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they can be if a player shoots them

rich kiln
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how do i use voice chat invite here???

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wait nvm, i remember

flat wagon
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I have a question that relates into the rules for the server, as well as the game. When it says the rule about not playing older Rundowns, what does that mean? Like, are we only supposed to be playing R7 and R8?

noble wind
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Also rule rephrasing when

flat wagon
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Oh, i was not aware that the Original Rundowns were taken down, lol

noble wind
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Yeah it was episodic

flat wagon
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I haven't played in ages, and it just said Alt: next to all of them, so, I just wondered if it was a weird flavour-text thing or soemthing

frail heart
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Yeah the alt is basically just re releases. You can find the older rundowns in certain places but it is not permitted to play them anywhere in this server

noble wind
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They are the same as old rundowns but brought back under the term
Alternate rundown

flat wagon
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I wouldn't plan to, I wanna play the game as it's intended

noble wind
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For lore purposes

flat wagon
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it's more fun that way, imo, and it properly supports the vision of the creators

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Well, semi-as-intended. There are missions that I get fed up with, so I just run-and-gun it. But you get what I mean

untold sinew
narrow niche
untold sinew
fierce walrus
shy hull
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Main reason i dont give bots high damage dealing weapons

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I once had bishop as a bot who shot me w a shotgun point blank

grand elm
shy hull
grand elm
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Is the scattergun intentional to kill a mother with 2 shots? Found out about it when i played through R4B3

floral acorn
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the damage to tumors is no longer capped to tumor health, so scatter / sniper will devastate tumored enemies

hardy grotto
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scatter already did as client

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scatter hasnt changed for host

floral acorn
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true

hardy grotto
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u still dont want to run scatter as host tbh

grand elm
floral acorn
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sniper doing 400hp per shot on a birther is mega meh

hardy grotto
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because when u break a tumor it instantly breaks for host

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so the rest of ur pellets probs hit white

grand elm
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even when in ADS?

sturdy glen
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anyone think someones gonna go for r7e1 solo without shocker capping with the tumor change?

hardy grotto
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ads wouldnt affect it

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u would want to spread ur pellets across a few tumors for best value probably

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its just a lot of effort thats not worth when u could be client and just

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ram ur scatter into a single tumor

hardy grotto
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i mean, maybe but

sturdy glen
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its probably possible now, just super fucked

hardy grotto
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its gonna be rlly hard

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and timings are super tight

sturdy glen
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wave 4 with hel revo sniper

hardy grotto
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sounds really not fun

grand elm
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throughout the entire run

sturdy glen
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not any luck involved tbh

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it would just suck

hardy grotto
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wave 4 just sounds lame to hold with that kinda loadout

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but i really think the timings on some of the codes would be the real issue

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like doing code 3

sturdy glen
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ye, imagine you get to code 3 in your solo and the tank gets stuck

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would be so awesome

hardy grotto
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yup

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not to mention like

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depending on ur tools its gonna suck ass stealthing shadow zones

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under time pressure

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i just dont really see it happening without cheese

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same with almost every other e tier solo

sturdy glen
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kiting for 3 hours is fun idk what you mean

hardy grotto
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giant kiting the r5e1 solo for 6 hours

tardy ingot
sturdy glen
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just curious if anyone will try, but game dead anyways so prolly not for multiple reasons

hardy grotto
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yea

tardy ingot
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i dont think its even that interesting to do so

hardy grotto
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i really dont see many challenges happening outside of ppl beating hard modded levels from now on

tardy ingot
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unless hinoki or tnenpi decide it out of random obligation

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I doubt it

hardy grotto
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tnenpi would be most likely one to but

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i dont imagine he will

tardy ingot
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Regarding challenges.
Im planning on making a lockout challenge-tournament

dunno if youd be interested in that

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(Not the mod btw, just to clarify)

hardy grotto
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meh

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maybe

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i dont play that much anymore

mossy aurora
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still no other r8e2 duo no tp

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😔

tardy ingot
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you went over to helldivers or watcha on for now

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(ive tried helldivers 2, seems like a cool ass game. But starting solo on escort automatons was oof)

sturdy glen
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someone should test sniper sentry solo vs tanks btw, I have a feeling it might just full kill it very quickly now

floral acorn
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good idea

tardy ingot
sturdy glen
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it doesnt do 6 damage on the second shot anymore

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it does another 144

tardy ingot
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actually it should have on 2nd shots on tumors it already hit ye

sturdy glen
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it will kill in 4 tumors theoretically

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which it should be able to hit that many

tardy ingot
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im moreso for the play of sniper sentry on mom kappa

hardy grotto
hardy grotto
mossy aurora
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W OMEGALUL W

sturdy glen
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🤮

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hate when the stinky wow player joins my terraria lobby

craggy pier
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i actually dont know what to play now that ive finihed gtfo

floral dome
craggy pier
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plan on doing more solos and duos but like thats not gonna last forever

floral dome
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trust me

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it doesnt

craggy pier
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maybe i can find a modded crew

floral dome
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take 60 years off your life

craggy pier
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dont think i wanna play that

mossy aurora
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modded can be fun if you make a team and go through the process of learning maps together

craggy pier
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yeah

sturdy glen
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get to see how horrible ppl are at designing good levels

craggy pier
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lolol

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idk still need 2 more assuming tru is keen

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ive heard of a legendary bbc spam rundown

sturdy glen
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does it have ladders

craggy pier
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maybe

floral acorn
tardy ingot
sturdy glen
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assuming its less than 4 then?

floral acorn
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a tank was just now dancing infront of a sniper sentry at 710hp, turret was silent..

sturdy glen
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damn so it broke 1

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thats awesome

floral acorn
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1 or 2

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i think the first shot landed it at 870 or something

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but why did that sentry stop firing.. mega clear los to lotsa bubbles and -enemy in general, scanned left right left right, not targeting it anymore

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meh

sturdy glen
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sniper sentry iq <20

floral acorn
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dunno if a biotracker tag woulda changed anything, suspecting not

grizzled patrol
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Give it a Break. He Had Stress at the work

hardy grotto
sturdy glen
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Whenever we finish vanilla prolly

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Progress slow cuz jish busy and bread plays the inferior game all day

craggy pier
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is "the inferior game" lethal?

sturdy glen
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Ding ding

craggy pier
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loud correct buzzer

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i havent seen bread in ages

sturdy glen
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Bro dipped the instant we beat e2

craggy pier
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if hes happy playing lethal good for him

sturdy glen
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He's making content for the children

craggy pier
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his vids r like pretty popular right

sturdy glen
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Ye

craggy pier
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pretty cool

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idk i couldnt get into lethal

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not enough shooting

sturdy glen
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It's pretty boring tbh

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Think the only reason him and Ray latched on so hard is too many hours in gtfo

craggy pier
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they were looking for an escape

hidden ridge
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I'll never get why that game got famous

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Well I do know why, streamers

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Or content creators or whatever silly ass name they go with

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Noone's a barman anymore, they're all "mixologists"

tardy ingot
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fun, cheap little game with friends

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hype bubble

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boom

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same for among us

hidden ridge
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Yeah but I mean, you play it even with friends for like a couple of hours then that's it

tardy ingot
#

Lethal is better in theory tho

hidden ridge
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Really, FIRST GAME on Steam material?

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At this point I'm sure some big names could astroturf a campaign to make any game popular on a whim

craggy pier
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bruh wtf did they remove the scouts from r7d1 ovl? they aint here

shy hull
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Huh?

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Why would they do that

tardy ingot
noble sierra
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But at least 1 I think?

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In my memory it's a range of 1-3

craggy pier
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0 scouts

soft crater
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Weird.

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From my runs I recall 2 scouts usually around the release of R7 and any other runs I landed the 1 scout in overload

tardy ingot
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i remember having 0 before once

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but might be wrong

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since that wouldve been og r7

trim rock
#

Yeah I've seen 0 to 4 scouts in that Overload area

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I actually thought it was the same bug as with the Snatchers

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I guess it's just rng

shy hull
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Can levels have over 10 scouts

noble sierra
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Can a single zone has over 10 scouts? Yes

shy hull
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What.

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Ew

craggy pier
noble sierra
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OG R2D1 iirc

craggy pier
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oh og

trim rock
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I don't think zone 611 had 10 scouts in OG but I could be wrong

shy hull
#

Doesnt matter how many scouts there are, they are friends

craggy pier
#

fax

noble wind
shy hull
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Can there be more than 4 scouts in a single room? Ik r2 one rundown there has 4 in a room

craggy pier
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yeah

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i think most is 6 in one room

shy hull
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Oh my

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Six friends!

craggy pier
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:3

noble sierra
topaz anvil
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R4D1 has 5 in one room,
R6C1 has 5?6?
R7D2 has 6

craggy pier
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R6d2

noble sierra
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Also 6 in R6D2

craggy pier
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Funny room

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Theres a zone in r7d1 with 6 scouts and a ton of smalls

noble sierra
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Overload zone in OG R4C2 had like 8 scouts in the whole zon iirc. Not sure in alt R4C2 although

craggy pier
#

Uhhhhh that would b a nope

noble wind
noble sierra
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Yeah, the zone having a cell used to have 5 or 6, I guess scouts reduced a decent amount in ALT release

noble wind
#

funny considering they said "sharper teeth"

lone mortar
noble wind
hidden ridge
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Because of fog, mainly, and the room layout being a bit shittier

turbid horizon
noble sierra
#

It's more like scan travel distance is much longer in OG

hidden ridge
#

I'm pretty sure that's because of the room layout?

noble sierra
#

So a class 3 can take the same time to fnish as a class 6

hidden ridge
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It used to be a lot more catwalk-y than what we have now

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And it was full in fog underneat said catwalk

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On the other hand OG only had 1 entrypoint, not sure about Alt since I did alt r4c2 twice

frail heart
shy hull
#

Exactly!

spring ocean
#

I'm guessing there is no mechanical different between melee weapons of the same type? like the spears work the exact same as each other, knives work the same as each other, etc?

ocean spindle
#

yeah

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they are skins

spring ocean
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thought so, ty

ocean spindle
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sledge gavel etc etc do the exact same thing

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:D

spring ocean
#

who decided to make 5 different hammers? xD

ocean spindle
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well skdmk when the game was early access there was only those 4 original melees, all hamer, the gavel the maul sledge and uhh mallet

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but with rundown 6 they left only one hammer, the santonian hdh, and added spear knife and bat

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and so the community wanted em back and on R8 they added em all bacc

spring ocean
#

got ya

unique bison
#

what is wrong with this game's match system

noble wind
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not super reliable

ocean spindle
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most people use discord yeah

noble wind
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you should LFG here

unique bison
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i keep getting matched to other rooms

ocean spindle
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oh thats the tier thing they added recently, u can choose like only the tier and not the specific
it is- bad so yeah id reocmmend more the LFG

unique bison
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ok

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but LFG takes a lot of time tho

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i just want a quick match u know Gavel

ocean spindle
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depends on the time of day, most of the time i have no problems like finding people but like rn its 9 am on a friday on like part of america n stuff
so maybs u can be a bit more lucky on evenings
or u can just try rn and see if u can get some people

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just remember to fill up ur message with all the specifics

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most people i see not like get matches forget the lobby code or the vc link or specifyin stuff like sectors

unique bison
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yeah like if i play with LFG it's ok but when i use in-game match make it keeps getting me jump to other rooms

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just saying

peak geode
#

@tardy ingot It's great to see new content that teaches GTFO mechanics and numbers. Great vid on stealth

tardy ingot
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<3

peak geode
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Also your name is a nightmare to tag on here HackettPing

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Shared it with my group.

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Are you planning on revisiting other mechanics in the game? Stamina? Kitting?

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HackettPing Sorry to ping you again, but do you recall any video of yours in which you used shotguns - especially the HEL variant? I am using them wrong and I wanna see how others use it effectively

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@tardy ingot FORGOT TO PING LUL

civic wave
#

if you want some good combat shotgun gameplay, go to any solo speedrun pretty much

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mainly you kinda like

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want to be close to the enemy and hit the shots, as unhelpful as that is, you can normally wait until the attack animation if you want

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a lot of it is intertwined with good movement to get into/out of shotgun range safely

peak geode
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Yeah, I wanna see how people manage the close distance risk

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Because it feels not worth it when I can safely burst or 1-shot enemies from a safer distance

civic wave
#

the only time it's not worth it is if you get yourself damaged, really

dry pumice
#

Considering that enemies just rush straight towards you and 90% of the game is close quarters underground tunnels with sharp corners...

civic wave
#

good shooting mitigates a lot of risk

dry pumice
#

This is one of the reasons bio is top tier for example. Its basically a legal wallhack - a pinged enemy won't ambush you around the corner, but you can ambush him.

peak geode
dry pumice
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There are

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But also half the enemies are close range biting type

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Shooters can become annoying, that much is true

peak geode
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I am barely at R3 with my group, but most of the time we have opportunities to hit stuff at mid to long range, and then focus on stuff that wants to give us a lick

dry pumice
#

Yeah, that's pretty much the vanilla experience.

peak geode
#

I did try the HEL shotty and it felt underwhelming, so I am definitely doing it wrong

dry pumice
#

HEL Shotty is a quirky weirdo, but he can pull his weight for certain.

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Its like 2 reliable shots to kill a striker from point blank range and don't get me started on catching a wave around a corner

peak geode
#

Yeah, tried to conga line the first wave of R2B2, at the first Class 5 alarm

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Since the enemies come out of spawn and have to go through two gateways

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HEL shotty felt worse in my use of it then just standing a bit further and Burst Rifle-ing it

dry pumice
#

Yeah, it doesn't deal that much damage to a single target unless its pointblank

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Burst Rifle is a pretty decent weapon too, that helps.

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Unlike most...

hardy grotto
#

it’s always better to shoot enemies from range than let them get up close

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But hel shotgun is very good for when enemies are up close

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but then hel revo is also just really good and has good range so

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I always end up using it over hel shotgun

tardy ingot
#

and i do use hel shotty in speedruns

But since its focused on being fast i do play inefficient pretty often

rustic blade
#

So I wanna know if I can play this game on controller? I'd be using an Xbox controller but idk if it's controller compatible

civic wave
#

there is partial controller support

lilac fulcrum
#

if you use steam's input manager you should have a better time, and can rebind stuff a little easier

civic wave
#

so you can play the game, but some stuff like terminals will need a keyboard

ashen frigate
#

It "works" but is in no way advisable to use a controler to play this game.

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I played through a couple expeditions with one and would not recommend.

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(thanks to my friends for the silly challenge.)

rustic blade
light kestrel
#

It's definitely possible. I know of one controller player at least

ashen frigate
rustic blade
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After a week I get to around the higher tiers of gameplay since I'm a super fast learner

ashen frigate
#

Melee combat also requires some getting used to, and is so much easier with keyboard and mouse that it really pushed on my nerves with a controller.
But to be fair, I am a PC-only player. I am obviously biaised in my opinion regarding FPS and Controllers, based off thousands of hours of playing with a keyboard and mouse.

rustic blade
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I'm sure, since close quarters like that is usually a big weakness on controller where mnk is quick and snappy for cq stuff

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Generally though if your good with controller you can sway your scope along the battlefield or choke point and let a few good rounds fly from a precision dmr or revolver and get a fel good collars n stuff

rustic blade
ashen frigate
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TL;DR : This game works with a controller, but I would not recommend, unless you are very confident in your abilities.
There is also the NEED for a keyboard to interract with Terminals, like Pachi pointed out which is unavoidable in a lot of missions.

rustic blade
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Apex legends though was where I got the biggest test, where I dominated with controller over mnk (copper rank but I was consistently contesting predators in casual and ranked modes)

I just don't have friends to play games with lol

Also how does matchmaking work?

As for the mnk stuff I intend to hybrid, so I use mnk for steady slower pace but use controller for alarms and things of that sort

civic wave
#

in game matchmaking is something you should never touch

ashen frigate
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In-game matchmaking is basically "I want to play". Looking for a group in Discord or with your friends is "I want to succeed".

rustic blade
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Ah that's actually awful. That sorta kills newer players like me off of they don't join the discord and learn that..

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But I get it unfortunately

ashen frigate
#

The thing is that this game is by definition not for everyone. Between 500 and 2000 players currently play it at any point in time, from everywhere around the globe.
Combine this with the fact that there are more than 80 different expeditions to choose from, and that the game is peer-to-peer (so you ideally want a host relatively close to your location).
It makes it easier to find a group that suits your needs here, or in any of the highlighted communities Discord servers, than using the in-game matchmaking.

rustic blade
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Yeah it's definitely good for progressing casually but I personally have just gotten used to matchmaking randomly in most games just because I want to play it and enjoy it.

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Hopefully I can try and join an lfg or something this weekend

ocean spindle
#

this game is kinda very not into being casual

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so a casual matchmakin system wouldnt really work for it either

rustic blade
#

Very backwards considering I'm just casually tactical about it ig

soft crater
#

I can't call gtfo "tactical" given how it's played.

upper ginkgo
#

i'm pretty sure that's the impression people get when hearing about the game

soft crater
#

I'd imagine newer groups are more. Slow and methodical

soft crater
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And then quit and call the game bad.

noble wind
#

L4d is cheaper tho

fallen kite
#

it's a combination of "Wtf is that" and "Can I kill it without everything else waking up"

surreal lake
soft crater
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We then went to R6A1 and what do you know. The guy ran in and started firing

jaunty latch
uneven zealot
#

Hey everyone - me and my partner are uk based, pretty new and “green” to the game.

Genuinely interested if there are any good tips off here. Also looking to hopefully get a group up for gaming at least once a week - typically evenings

ocean spindle
digital mural
ocean spindle
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so be sure to try em all around

digital mural
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and its okay to jump to other rundowns if you get stuck

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also try all guns

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and dont give up

jaunty latch
uneven zealot
#

I’m certainly not a fan of the smg. - preferred the assault rifle and a sniper to head the big guys and the weird tentacle things.

Got to admit - bots suck

digital mural
#

in the game

ocean spindle
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after the patch

digital mural
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they fixed it?

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another bullet on the mag?

ocean spindle
#

eh kinda

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no

digital mural
#

then its shit

uneven zealot
#

I didn’t have much luck with the pistols - though I’ve heard good things

jaunty latch
ocean spindle
civic wave
#

it does funny stuff to uh

ocean spindle
#

yeah but

digital mural
civic wave
#

anything with miniboss status

digital mural
#

oh so they actually kinda fixed it

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time to use it

civic wave
#

but other than that, yeah sniper is still a bit suspect

uneven zealot
#

Honestly ? I think I just suck at aiming

ocean spindle
jaunty latch
ocean spindle
#

those all kill scouts and bigs well
scattergun oneshots everything and burst cannon oneshots scouts and twoshot bigs

uneven zealot
jaunty latch
#

you can also just mag dump them with either machinegun

ocean spindle
#

yeah i mean most specials are good on bigs

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except for like, 2 3 or so

uneven zealot
#

Typically we are theee levels in to rundown 1 - but no luck getting further.

We normally run out of supplies towards the end and die. A lot of deaths.

jaunty latch
ocean spindle
ocean spindle
digital mural
ocean spindle
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oh u said it

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my bad smdkmksd

digital mural
#

R1C1?

uneven zealot
#

Errr sorry what’s a scout ? 😅

digital mural
ocean spindle
#

the tentacles

uneven zealot
#

Ah! Thankyou

jaunty latch
#

the thing that screams

ocean spindle
uneven zealot
#

I hate them

digital mural
#

if you touch it they will scream and alert the horde

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you havent seen the worse yet

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:)

uneven zealot
#

Reminds of rule 32 far too much

jaunty latch
ocean spindle
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:D

uneven zealot
#

Anyway thank you all so much. Will post more when I hit other brick walls

jaunty latch
#

you will probably run into them in late r2 once your past your current one

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but its mostly fine once you get over that

ocean spindle
#

one more lil advice, enemies detect when u kill their buddies more when they are glowin, around 8 9 or so meters, so there may be a chance they wake up
make sure every other enemy is not glowin when u go for kills in a packed room

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u can always flash em for a second with ur guns flashlight, thatll sync em

digital mural
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also dont be scared to pull rooms if its too much

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or shoot scouts

plush vessel
#

use spears on scouts

ocean spindle
#

eh hammers also good

plush vessel
#

1 shot kill to the head

digital mural
plush vessel
#

ye

digital mural
ocean spindle
#

bat and knife just to the back of the head

uneven zealot
#

Ah. I’ve just stuck to the knife and never changed haha

digital mural
#

its funny

uneven zealot
#

Hammers = scary

jaunty latch
#

use bat

ocean spindle
#

yeah, might be a bit too dangerous to try melee kills on scouts with knife so
maybs let ur other teamplayers get those

digital mural
uneven zealot
#

I think also I don’t like the slower attack

digital mural
#

hammer is kinda fast tho

uneven zealot
#

I’ll have a play around with it though

ocean spindle
#

u can practice scout kills with it

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if u like it nice

uneven zealot
#

Might just not be using it to my advantage kinda deal

ocean spindle
#

if not well u can also practice knife kills but itll be harder

jaunty latch
ocean spindle
#

u have to jump while chargin

ocean spindle
#

its not hard but can take a lil

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i struggled with bat kills a bit ksmdkm

jaunty latch
#

biggest threat is them randomly turning around right before you smack them lol

digital mural
#

true

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so real

uneven zealot
#

The bat I just didn’t enjoy at all

ocean spindle
#

thats why u wait for em to extend

ocean spindle
#

certified bat user broken heart smh

uneven zealot
jaunty latch
digital mural
#

all melees are good at something

ocean spindle
#

real

uneven zealot
ocean spindle
#

thats fair tbh

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everyone said it, its a buttplug

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and the other isnt that pretty either i dont like it

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the, atraco or whoever its called

digital mural
#

i love the spear but i dont use it too much

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😔

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at least not when i take the game seriously

uneven zealot
#

Quite literally. And for those with consumption - or whatever the things have in thee

ocean spindle
#

i used spear in solo runs cause its not like i was gonna melee in combat either so

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but then just kinda forgor about it

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and now i just use bat and hammer equal

digital mural
#

oh yeah

jaunty latch
digital mural
#

switching between bat and hammer

uneven zealot
#

Yeah I found that melee when in a fight was HORRIBLE

#

so many deaths.

ocean spindle
#

with enough practice u rely on it a lot

digital mural
#

you will have to melee your way in most of levels

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:)

ocean spindle
#

knifes the quinessential melee for combat so take advantage of it

digital mural
#

if you want to keep enough res for some sections

uneven zealot
#

You make-a pug a sad

past mesa
digital mural
#

every melee is good at dealing with small hordes of enemies
except sometimes spear

jaunty latch
#

spear sucks outside of stealth

plush vessel
#

kiting with hammer/bat/etc is a must

digital mural
plush vessel
#

yeh, spear is niche cuz u cant run

jaunty latch
past mesa
digital mural
#

and take your time so you dont get hit

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annoying

ocean spindle
#

and need to do headshots still to kill enemies

plush vessel
spring ocean
plush vessel
#

i find it easier to headhsot scouts with spears, idk why

digital mural
#

dealing with scouts and giants

spring ocean
#

it has a longer range than the others letting you poke them safer

plush vessel
#

not just the range

past mesa
plush vessel
#

it seems like the hitbox attacks are easier

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maybe it is just me...if they both have the same attack patterns/hitbox etc

spring ocean
#

if I'm using a melee weapon vs a swarm I F'd up

digital mural
#

it isnt the best but you can still manage against a swarm

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you are going to probably get hit

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😔

plush vessel
#

there are way too many weapons with too much overlap now :/

upper ginkgo
#

real

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we should go back to r1 weapons only

digital mural
#

we should just use melee

#

no weapon rights

jaunty latch
spring ocean
#

unless you're talking firearms

plush vessel
#

yes. Firearms

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so many smgs, assault rifles, and shotguns...much of them being similar and overlapping functions

ocean spindle
#

things that happens in games, but at least some just have some differences on range reloads mags etc etc

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like most of the autos in main

viral spruce
#

did they change terminal passwords so they are no longer set on a seed?

jagged shore
#

what

viral spruce
#

so like when a terminal is locked by a password now the password is random

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and is not determined by the seed

jagged shore
#

oh like the session seed?

viral spruce
#

ye

jagged shore
#

i had no idea theyy were ever on or off that lol
maybe @past mesa might know, or someone else

arctic marten
viral spruce
arctic marten
#

no, they changed that during alt r6 i think?

viral spruce
#

thx, i got rlly confused for a moment

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did they change anything else seed related?

arctic marten
#

not that i know of

viral spruce
#

k thx

past mesa
arctic marten
#

really?

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i could've sworn it was recent

mossy aurora
#

I remember they changed it and then people couldn't do the r7c3 secondary password cheese thing anymore

spring ocean
#

does anyone else by change get a starfish attaching to their face in the game?

fluid patrol
#

What does LIST U e_xyz mean in the terminal

upper ginkgo
#

list all security, resources, and unknown items in zone_xyz

civic furnace
jagged shore
#

so, in the list command the different things you provide are filters
it only shows things that have that in them
U is in a lot of helpful things
like resoUrces, Unknown (usually objective type things), and some others

#

e_xyz and just a shortened version of zonE_xyz

upper ginkgo
civic furnace
#

sorry

sturdy glen
#

it can pick up ids if u is in the random shit

past mesa
noble sierra
frail heart
#

The REAL skill jump is switching from RE to U

jagged shore
#

Nah u was easy

lone mortar
tardy ingot
craggy pier
unique bison
#

is there any mod that recommends?

#

i want to make my playing experience better

#

i only download PingEverything Mod and i use Thunderstore to manage it.

#

any suggestion?

pseudo coyote
craggy pier
#

shameless

#

hes 100% right tho

unique bison
#

what's wrong about it

craggy pier
#

accurate crosshair, mushsight, cleanscopes, deadbodyfix

craggy pier
unique bison
untold sinew
#

mods asleep, ey? x)

unique bison
pseudo coyote
craggy pier
#

100%

craggy pier
#

am i insane or did there used to be way more fliers on r7b1

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we got like

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4

native sun
#

Went from 20 to around 4, long time ago

craggy pier
#

bruh

#

ok then

#

ig i wasnt around when that change happened

#

kinda sad

#

20 was a bit interesting but like atleast make it 10

tardy ingot
#

~12 per wave to 2

#

back in alt r1 or r2

trim rock
#

Too many people panic rushing the tscan I guess

craggy pier
#

the only way u die is by pulling the alarm before the fliers are dead or pulling the door before the alarm is dead

jaunty latch
#

they borderline cant hit you if you just move in a small circle anyway

ocean spindle
#

i wrote it fast tbh i might've

tardy ingot
#

(i was semi kidding)
Range for long range aggro is 13 meters (if they arent glowing its only proximity aggro (range 3 meters))

soft crater
tardy ingot
#

gotta have them be awake first tho

uneven gulchBOT
violet violet
#

Does the ping every enemy on the map achievement even include the enemies that spawn in during alarms?

digital mural
#

yes

lunar rain
#

So is there a reason for when I reload certain guns it goes to 29 instead of 30 despite have more than enough ammo?

civic wave
#

rounding error

past mesa
#

If only there was a better way to reload guns

#

In video games

narrow niche
#

Hmmmmm

static prawn
#

R2D1: does the fog gradually build up over time or is our game just bugged

noble wind
#

No

#

Fog goes down with every cell you put in

static prawn
#

We’re at 4 cells inserted and the fog is actively rising. It’s probably due to the fact we left the mission overnight but still

#

It also randomly appeared at head level when it started to rise

civic wave
#

it rises when you plug all the cells in

static prawn
#

We don’t have them all in yet

hazy wasp
#

we’re only at 4

civic wave
#

how quickly did the fog give you infection?

static prawn
#

The normal rate

hazy wasp
#

normal rate

civic wave
#

huh

#

I'm not sure what to suggest actually

static prawn
#

Is there somewhere I can send a video of this?

upper ginkgo
hazy wasp
#

we’ve all left and rejoined the lobby and the smog is still there for all of us

#

despite being at foot level in move rooms before

noble sierra
#

yeah, that's not normal for sure

static prawn
noble wind
#

Did someone do a start command 💀

noble sierra
#

Either you have a funny teammate

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Or just another random glitch

static prawn
#

It’s definitely the latter

hazy wasp
civic wave
#

is there a disinfect pack anywhere you can grab, and then record yourself using it

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to see how quickly you regain infection

static prawn
#

I gotchu

#

Actually I can use a disinfect station too

civic wave
#

ooh nice, that works too

jaunty latch
#

funny teammate normally just results in tank spam or 50 sentrys

static prawn
#

My apologies, taking longer than expected because navigating poison fog is a bit difficult

noble wind
#

We wait patiently

noble sierra
#

With the new START command, you don't have to be that funny but still be funny

jaunty latch
#

whats the deal with that command again

noble wind
#

A funnier command would have been turning all sleepers to nightmare variant

noble wind
jaunty latch
noble wind
hazy wasp
#

my guess is that desync is causing the game to think we put five cells in when it’s only four

noble sierra
static prawn
#

Just sent

civic wave
#

i'm so fucking confused

#

that infection isn't at the weird terminal alarm rate so I have no idea what to suggest

hazy wasp
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do you think loading the fifth cell into the cluster will recalibrate the game’s fog brain?

noble wind
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Yes

static prawn
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We gotta get to it first

noble wind
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But are you ready cuz it will start a Class 5

static prawn
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We have to do a blood door first as well lol

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Wait nevermind

hazy wasp
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we fucking beat it lmao

noble wind
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Congratulations

civic wave
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gg boys, you did great

static prawn
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Fog went back down not when we inserted the cells, but when we finished the bioscans and starting running towards the extraction

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Also for some reason the sleeping enemies were all despawned

narrow niche
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M

past mesa
static prawn
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R2D1

past mesa
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Enemies de spawned? In the first zone they probably pulled on the first alarm?

static prawn
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No like we went to rooms we hadn’t been to yet with unopened/unbroken doors and there just weren’t any enemies

pseudo coyote
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this is why u should use replay mod! u can find out what happened 🤔 shameless plug

past mesa
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They went to sleep with the game on

arctic marten
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im wondering if running the game for 18 hours does anything weird

tardy ingot
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litteraly just dont leave a mission running for a full night

arctic marten
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new tech

past mesa
tardy ingot
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low% pacifist run

turbid horizon
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wonder what happens if you go over 99 hrs

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what the timer does

static prawn
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Idk if it has anything to do with it, but we had to have someone leave and rejoin because of sound issues and when they joined back the fog was up for two people. Then we those two left and rejoined the fog was up for everyone

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It was actively rising too

past mesa
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Yeah that is fairly normal

static prawn
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We also materialized a cell on accident too

past mesa
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^??? What do you mean by this

static prawn
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When someone left, it took us slightly back in the mission location wise but with the same number of cells inserted and same resource stats

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And one of the generators was saying it was powered even though there wasn’t a cell inserted

upper ginkgo
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crazy host migration doesn't roll back cell states

static prawn
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Shit is weird

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I guess if you want to replicate it, this is where we were when we left it running: 2 cells inserted in the generator cluster, 1 in the generator tied to the zone with a bunch of resources.

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Then leave the game open for 18 hours lmao

hazy wasp
static prawn
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Yep

tardy ingot
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r7c2

wintry lava
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me and a friend are trying to do r5c2 PE , and we've completed some rundowns using bots as the third and forth, but this level seems impossible to do with them. does anyone have any tips? the videos ive been able to find use the better bots mod and we dont want to use that

noble wind
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What part of c2 are you stuck on

past mesa
wintry lava
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overload

past mesa
noble wind
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Yes

wintry lava
jaunty latch
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so the thunderdome?

past mesa
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It stops spawning enemies after the mom

wintry lava
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the issue is mainly when the tank spawns, without elevation the bots jsut die to him

past mesa
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That is a method you could use or the lame giant kiting method

noble wind
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Don't fight in the ovl zone

jaunty latch
past mesa
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If you are struggling with just overload a little bit ofcheese could help or you kinda just need to be better

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Sniper is pretty good into tank now

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So you can just insane kill it

noble wind
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Close the big door
Open small door to the side
This way you have 2 sides that enemies come from
And if needed U can surround tank and take cover

wintry lava
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so its ok not to progress the scan and just let them spawn is what youre saying? kind of jsut kite until mom spawns and then clear?

past mesa
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100% ✅

jaunty latch
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yeah you have to kill them all

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tanks are just painful with duos regardless of the level

upper ginkgo
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5 shot sniper

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3 shot scatter

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are tanks even a threat

past mesa
noble wind
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Yes for the inexperienced